Last time it was Steve Bannon who held multiple interviews with Michael Wolff for his book Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House. This time it is White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles who sat down for a series of recorded ‘on the record’ interviews with Vanity Fair author Chris Whipple. [Article w/ Paywall]
The interviews with Susie Wiles have been taking place all year, with recordings of her statements made to ensure she could not retract the divisive content now deployed by Vanity Fair at a critical moment in the Trump administration.
The intent of the Vanity Fair outline is to paint the most negative light possible, and it appears Susie Wiles gave Chris Whipple all the ammunition to do so.
TIMING: This anti-Trump narrative, supported by the toxic statements by Wiles, is dropped at a key moment when European leadership is purposefully pushing a narrative against President Trump. This series of articles and documented interviews hits at a moment of merging interests against the administration. The coordination is noted.
SUBSTANCE: The New York Times outlines some of the statements by Susie Wiles that are going to grab attention.
[…] “Over the course of 11 interviews, Ms. Wiles offered pungent assessments of the president and his team: Mr. Trump “has an alcoholic’s personality.” Vice President JD Vance has “been a conspiracy theorist for a decade” and his conversion from Trump critic to ally was based not on principle but was “sort of political” because he was running for Senate. Elon Musk is “an avowed ketamine” user and “an odd, odd duck,” whose actions were not always “rational” and left her “aghast.” Russell T. Vought, the budget director, is “a right-wing absolute zealot.” And Attorney General Pam Bondi “completely whiffed” in handling the Epstein files.”
[…] She said she urged Mr. Trump not to pardon the most violent rioters from Jan. 6, 2021, which he did anyway. She unsuccessfully tried to get him to delay his major tariffs because of a “huge disagreement” among his advisers. And she said the administration needed to “look harder” at deportations to prevent mistakes.
[…] She attributes her ability to work for Mr. Trump to growing up with an alcoholic father, the sportscaster Pat Summerall. “High-functioning alcoholics or alcoholics in general, their personalities are exaggerated when they drink,” she said. “And so I’m a little bit of an expert in big personalities.” While Mr. Trump does not drink, she said he has “an alcoholic’s personality” and operates with “a view that there’s nothing he can’t do. Nothing, zero, nothing.”
[…] Ms. Wiles confided in Mr. Whipple in March that she had told Mr. Trump that his presidency was not supposed to be a retribution tour. “We have a loose agreement that the score settling will end before the first 90 days are over,” she said then. When that did not happen by August, she told Mr. Whipple that “I don’t think he’s on a retribution tour” but said that he was aiming at people who did “bad things” in coming after him. “In some cases, it may look like retribution,” she said. “And there may be an element of that from time to time. Who would blame him? Not me.”
[…] In the interviews published by Vanity Fair, Ms. Wiles faulted Ms. Bondi, one of her closest friends in the administration, for her early handling of the Epstein files, an issue that has been a cause célèbre for Mr. Trump’s right-wing base.
“I think she completely whiffed on appreciating that that was the very targeted group that cared about this,” Ms. Wiles said. “First, she gave them binders full of nothingness. And then she said that the witness list, or the client list, was on her desk. There is no client list, and it sure as hell wasn’t on her desk.” Mr. Vance, by contrast, understood the sensitivity because he himself was “a conspiracy theorist,” she said.
Ms. Wiles said she has read the Epstein documents and acknowledged that Mr. Trump’s name is in them. “We know he’s in the file,” she said. “And he’s not in the file doing anything awful.”
[…] Ms. Wiles described frustration with Mr. Musk, the billionaire who early in the year was empowered to eviscerate federal agencies and fire employees en masse with almost no process. “He’s an odd, odd duck, as I think geniuses are. You know, it’s not helpful, but he is his own person.” When he shared a post saying that Stalin, Mao and Hitler didn’t murder millions, their public sector workers did, Ms. Wiles said, “I think that’s when he’s microdosing.” Asked what she meant, she said, “he’s an avowed ketamine” user.
[…] In the interview with The Times on Monday, Ms. Wiles took issue with the quote attributed to her about his drug use. “That’s ridiculous,” she said. “I wouldn’t have said it and I wouldn’t know.” But Mr. Whipple played a tape for The Times in which she could be heard saying it.
[…] She acknowledged sharp internal divisions over Mr. Trump’s announcement of major tariffs last spring. “There was a huge disagreement over whether” tariffs were “a good idea,” she said. “We told Donald Trump, ‘Hey, let’s not talk about tariffs today. Let’s wait until we have the team in complete unity and then we’ll do it.’” But he announced them anyway and “it’s been more painful than I expected.”
[…] As for the potential successors, Mr. Vance and Mr. Rubio, she distinguished how each of them came around to supporting Mr. Trump after initially opposing him. “Marco was not the sort of person that would violate his principles,” she said. “He just won’t. And so he had to get there.” As for Mr. Vance, “his conversion came when he was running for the Senate. And I think his conversion was a little bit more, sort of political.”
Mr. Rubio told Mr. Whipple what he has said publicly, that “if JD Vance runs for president, he’s going to be our nominee and I’ll be one of the first people to support him.” (read more)
Immediately after publication of the Vanity Fair story, Mrs. Wiles took to Twitter to explain her position:
[SOURCE]
Mrs. Wiles never explains why, for all that is reasonable and holy, she would even sit down with Vanity Fair for eleven interviews over the course of the year.
If you find yourself looking at this narrative engineering and saying, “WTF, why would she be so stupid?” You are not alone.
Perhaps it’s the old axiom that sooner or later the senior staff always convince themselves that they are the star of the show. Or perhaps Mrs. Wiles just never heard the Snake Poem:
On her way to work one morning
Down the path ‘longside the lake
A tender-hearted woman saw a poor half-frozen snake
His pretty colored skin had been all frosted with the dew
“Oh well,” she cried, “I’ll take you in and I’ll take care of you”
“Take me in, tender woman
Take me in, for heaven’s sake
Take me in, tender woman,” sighed the snake
She wrapped him up all cozy in a comforter of silk
And laid him by thе fireside with some honеy and some milk
She hurried home from work that night, and soon as she arrived
She found that pretty snake she’d taken in had been revived
“Take me in, tender woman
Take me in, for heaven’s sake
Take me in, tender woman,” sighed the snake
She clutched him to her bosom, “You’re so beautiful,” she cried
“But if I hadn’t brought you in, by now you might have died”
She stroked his pretty skin again and kissed and held him tight
Instead of saying thanks, that snake gave her a vicious bite
“Take me in, tender woman
Take me in, for heaven’s sake
Take me in, tender woman,” sighed the snake
“I saved you,” cried the woman
“And you’ve bitten me, but why?
And you know your bite is poisonous and now I’m gonna die”
“Oh shut up, silly woman,” said the reptile with a grin
“You knew damn well I was a snake before you took me in”



I wonder how much she was paid for that story.
I can see a range of possible responses from Trump from no response to firing her and just about anything in between. I’m not sure how damaging this article is. At this point in American history there are close to zero Americans who think a President is incapable of making any mistakes. We all know mistakes are made, we all know there are a lot of people working with Trump and none of them are perfect.
I take Sundance’s point that this article comes during talks with the EU re: Ukraine/Russia in which the EU is trying to make President Trump look bad, but I do not believe their negativity about Trump is going to move the needle either on how Trump’s supporters feel nor on how his detractors feel about him. It is obvious that the EU has an agenda: they have to keep the war going any way they can, probably on orders from MI6. So if they have to make Trump look bad they will, but it’s not like they’ve ever been very positive about Trump, so their recent hostility is just more of the same sore loser attitude we’ve gotten from the EU all along.
And if what we’ve seen from the article is a representative sample, it comes across as sprinkling poison all over Trump and his cabinet, and the poison isn’t necessarily coming from Wiles so much as it is coming from the writer. She may be a snake, but she’s not stupid, and I doubt she said half of what they are saying she said. I don’t know what to feel about her, but hit pieces are not objective sources for learning about someone.
“and the poison isn’t necessarily coming from Wiles so much as it is coming from the writer”.
It was recorded. She said what the article says she said.
Maybe
I call this Trump worship syndrome. Because the automatic go to is by MAGA faithful is to say it’s all fake because of everything the fake media has done in the past decade.
But, this time Vanity apparently has the receipts and that’s no accident.
And like Trump she is an ignorant genius. She did a stupid thing, but it’s not her fault it’s the stupid media’’s fault for publishing what she said.
Wiles damn well know what she was doing and she loved it.
But this isn;t her first go round in the WH didn;t she work then during Reagan time so she
knows what is what.. didn;t she think they would cherry pick what she said..has she not been
paying attention to last 10 years of Left hysteria over POTUS and literally anything anyone says is
taken out of context
Wiles worked with Reagan? Didn’t Regan have that idiot author that Reagan was convinced to give him the chance of a lifetime to get up close and follow Reagan around to create historical biography for the ages?
Instead the guy, name ever forgotten, wrote a bitter and petty Reagan-is-a-poopy face diatribe?
Interesting if Wiles is connected to both.
Was the reporter that “accidentaly” got into the Signal chat room then ran the hit piece on Hegseth also Vanity Fair. Or was he with The Atlantic?
The Atlantic.
Hegseth is an alcoholic creep. Actor that needed a TV studio to do his job. Not qualified.
down vote
Et tu, Susie‘?
Wiles is, and always has been, a team player. It’s unfortunate that it’s never been for Team Trump. I thought she’d exercise more restraint. Her days are numbered.
J
“Her days are numbered” Excuse me but you ARE talking Trump here LOL!!! She has nothing to worry about. Same with feckless Bondi.
Bondi is a different case. The Attorney General has to be approved by an establishment/RINO senate, the White House chief of staff does not. Bondi might well make it to the mid-terms. If she does, and the Republicans win, she might want to brush off her resume.
J
Either she’s lying about know it was going to be a hit piece or too stupid to know it would be. Either way she needs to go. Idiot.
Never would have sat for the interview. Ego?
And she admits she propped up Bondi for a job WAY OVER her head.
Ironic. She can’t hold a candle to Harmeet Dhillon who Sundance despises.
Fire her for her lack of discretion for interviewing with Vanity Fair!!! As a so-called “seasoned” political person in the Washington, DC arena, she should have known better!!! ARGH. I would trust Suzie as far as I could throw her…
<I would trust Suzie as far as I could throw her…>
But not as far as her father could kick her 🙂
Ha ha ha Pat was good i liked the ol boy.
I wonder if she went behind Trump’s back or if he was in on it?
Did Trump approve? Or did she go rogue?
Loyalty?
In the picture with Miriam Adelson, Susie looks exactly like her father.
He must be yet another celebrity I’ve never heard of.
Pat Summerall. NFL player with the Lions and Giants and later an announcer with John Madden. Back when football wasn’t woke.
Fond memories of Summerall and Gifford running the CBS Sunday morning NFL show in the 60’s.
BACK When i WAS INNOCENT and MY HEROES – ALL SAINTS
( in MANY Ways… )
Goes to show, they haven’t even scratched the surface of traitors.
If the quote is accurate, Wiles doesn’t know what “microdosing” is. (It means taking a small amount of a psychedelic over a long period of time for subtle effects. It’s not something that causes hallucinations and so on.)
Everything she said only made me like President Trump more. Hopefully it gets her fired though.
Big moves from 47 imminent.
I think President Trump calls it, “I ask them to give me a letter.” 😂
I had a strong feeling over the past 2 weeks that someone close to President Trump would very soon provide the shiv, right at the perfect time to wreak maximum gossip havoc.
Susie Wiles is, has always been, and shall remain Brutus. I said it a long time ago.
MTG right there with her helping push in the knife.
ever read the management book , Every time I get stabbed in the Back my Fingerprints are on the knife”?
Sundance warned us and her!
Correction;About her
Why does the PDJT’s staff keep believing THIS INTERVIEW WILL BE HONEST? Guess the staff hasn’t learned about COMMON SENSE yet.
Common sense is not so common, anymore.
Trump hired her.
The final picture tells the story–Wiles with her handler/funder, Adelson.
No words needed.
They paid for Trump, and feel that they can do or say absolutely anything. They are in charge.
Time for Trump to stiffen his backbone and clear the decks. Get back to MAGA.
Or, he can keep drifting into ignominious history–a terrible, lost opportunity.
Amazing how poor his judgement of staff is. Or the magnitude of manipulation going on. Pretty much the only two possible explanations for his constant failures in selecting people for positions.
Trump and Co have racked in almost a billion dollars this year. Damn right they own his ass. The grift from the Trump family is hard to ignore. They’re all in on it.
And Jared and Ivanka is icing on the cake, not to mention Tiffany’s father in law. How is it that MAGA hated Hunter’s grift, but celebrates Don Jr grift, where he opens a pay for play club right in DC. How is this any different then selling 500 thousand dollar paintings?
Yes, my first reaction was why on earth would this woman be so stupid….or so naive in thinking that Vanity Fair would write a glowing article. But then I wonder….maybe this is a gift in disguise. Maybe now President Trump, rather than excusing her stupidity and disloyalty, will show Madame Wiles the door, and bid her goodbye.
She is not stupid, au contraire…she is a corporatist…cold and calculating. JMO.
Trump should fire her in a Tweet expressing sorrow that he and his administration have not kept Susie Wiles happy, and out an abundance of compassion he is letting her go.
If I was Susie Wiles I would be in my office today packing things up and resigning so President Trump didn’t have to fire me or ask me to resign. I would also be making a sincere public apology to Trump and his admin for saying and doing things that brought disfavor on them.
Bingo.
Mr. Trump “has an alcoholic’s personality.”
Sorry, but IF she said that, it would/should be taken as a very personal insult given how much PDJT loathes alcohol.
And all this so she can sell a book? How pathetic.
The difference is The President has taken the path he has been given and moved on and Suzy is on her path viewing everyone through an adult of alcoholism lens.
Who is living life and who waiting for someone to fix other people?
Suzy lived a life of privilege even if her father was an alcoholic- I sure don’t know. Functional alcoholic means they work, provide etc. I t was the 1960’s when alcohol and smoking were expected. Too late to view it from a 2025 lens. Suzy has lived many more years away from her family of origin. She can do something different. Her father is not here to defend himself, there is nothing good that can come from being mad at someone dead. Grow up Suzy this blame doesn’t lead you anywhere you want to go. It is a soft spot for the President though. I think you used that to your advantage.
Why doesn’t Vanity fair release the audio and/or transcripts?
Why would they?? … if Suzie Q issues any denials … they just replay the “clip” with her exact words .. to rub salt into the wounds.
Why does the president persist in making the worst possible choices for such an important position as his personal chief of staff …. after seeing all the other great choices he has made for staff members that do not require a “mother may I” from Senator Thune (McConnell).
Suzie Q claiming ignorance and naivete over the “lack of context” is pure top grade BS. She knew what would happen.
A Morgan & Morgan ambulance chaser. A pox on her house. Trump can’t get rid of her and Bondi fast enough. I’m sure Bongino has her number and was part of the reason he wanted to resign.
God bless and protect President Trump from courtesans like this f$#king snake.
Bongino’s staff has quit and I’m told Bongino is going to resign 🤷♀️
Why would she sit for interviews with Vanity Fair?
The answer is right there in the name of the publication.
Spot on. Great all out.
Just curious, did the President know she was doing these eleven interviews? Did he say, “Sure Susie, go talk to the rabid leftist Vanity Fair as many times as you like.”?
This is the question that needs to be answered.
BITCH
If this is the best they can do to derail President Trump, then they really are out of ammunition. This does not even equate to throwing rocks.
That said, who in this day and age would be stupid enough to sit down with the hostile media and suppose they would give a non selectively edited version of what they say. Fire her for basic stupidity.
Eventually, they all self detonate. The goal here is to create the midterm narrative, claim there’s a blue wave, and get a bunch of GOP House resignations that make holding the House difficult.
Susie was always on a suicide bomber mission.
Hopefully, PDJT cleans house and puts some stronger people in place. New CoS is a good start…but who? Bongino rumors likely mean he’s lost hope in Ca$h. Blondie is a disaster. Start there.
Florida Swamp moved to DC Swamp? 🤷♀️
We managed to stop DiSanctimonious and his Florida Swamp Crew🐊🐀🪳🦟
Appears contingency-back up crew was waiting in the wings.
And same bird….with just different wings.😉😬🤷♀️
I can’t help but see a common theme….Florida Swamp. 🤢
I count President Trump as a NYC man— who just moved to Florida.
It’s all of the people in his administration from the Florida Swamp
who should be scrutinized. And kicked to the curb. All of them.
As I like to call our beloved POTUS…
“The dude from Queens”.
Fodder from within to be used in the midterms
Who reads Vanity Fair?
The Communist Elite.
Q.E.D.
We need the stepping on a rake picture.
My guess is Trump is replacing her with Stephen Miller and she is pissed. No other reason to go to Vanity Fair. Think about when republicans go on to vent anger with Trump on CNN or MSLSD. Same reason here.
She has been doing the interviews for 11 months… so, I doubt she did it because she thought she was about to be replaced.
Stephen Miller needs to take her place, STAT…
A S A P !!!!
She painted a common sense picture of a common sense ( strong ) men. and women, who aren’t perfect or accomplishing all the things I want to see done. Didn’t have any problem with her painting that picture. The hand-wringing crowd may differ from my assessment. T.S.!
I think she made some reasonable observations, but to the totally wrong channel. If the CoS is that shortsided then what qualification put her in that position in the first place?
I’ll never figure out this President and what he sees in the worst possible candidates. Remember “You’re Fired”? God only knows.
Sorry. I’m trying not to get really angry here, but what on earth caused this supposedly intelligent woman to go on and on for months with such criticisms of her boss’s staff????????
She needs to be fired immediately. Such lack of loyalty cannot stand. JD is trying to find a gold nugget in a pile of excrement.
We MAGA people have given blood, sweat, tears and money to PDJT, and he is paying her salary. These loose lips are aiming at destroying PDJT and his movement. She must go now!!!!
This was a CIA book writer too.
11 TIMES! not… 9 TIMES! 9 TIMES!
She just wanted a little publicity!
Is she fired yet?
I said NOPE! To Wiles the first time I laid eyes on her, has those “know-it-all-eyes.
Said the same thing for Patel and Bongino (but for different reasons).
That picture with Wiles and Adleson, Adleson may be a Trump donor but the newspaper she owns is as anti-Trump as they come.
ADLESON..and her ppl always covered both sides same as bankers…..
She’s a hostile, calculating operative of the worst order who had no business whatsoever talking to any media outlet.
Why did she say JD was a conspiracy theorist?
JD isn’t smart enough to uncover a conspiracy if one jumped up and bit him on the nose.
He’s alert enough to recognize an obvious one and inquisitive enough to bumble up into one, and enough of a weasel to participate in one, but he’s certainly not a bona fide conspiracy theorist.
Did JD discover a conspiracy involving Suzie, a conspiracy she’s afraid he’ll reveal?
Why trash talk Elon by suggesting he’s a druggie as if Elon’s drug dabbling is a State secret?
What does Elon know about Suzie?
And suggesting President Trump has an alcoholic personality when he absolutely does not?
Speaking of alcoholics, the only one presenting themselves as an alcoholic is Suzie.
Look at her.
Fat and dumpy.
Obviously retaining fluid and her middle is so thick it looks like her liver is the size of a basketball.
She can’t even fix her hair properly, or wear lipstick, or dress like a professional.
Certainly, she’s paid well enough for a hair stylist and a wardrobe consultant?
And even a nice lady to help her get ready for work in the morning.
She’s so damn sloppy she looks like Steve Bannon in a dress!
If she stays in the White House, her desk needs to be parked in the basement and she can spend the rest of her tenure counting envelopes and sharpening pencils.
Hopefully, she’ll resign quietly.
0.o
47 Fuzzy…she have to goes with BIG BANG !!!! not quietly….
I have been employed in professions that involved ” teamwork “, and always recognized that many of the employee’s had different strength’s and weaknesses, some that I considered less than professional or skilled. My first job made a particular impression on ” my impressions ” because in the foxhole or bunkers, 99% of my ” teammates ” could be counted on. ( yeah, it was eyes open always for the 1% ). My 2nd job was similar, but I could usually avoid difficult patrol shifts or incidents involving the 5% ( sorry, many were not trained by D.I’s / military standards), or adjusted accordingly. We dissed each other face to face when deserved as a ” learning process” for all. We talked bad about those who weren’t cutting it to other team members, cause our loyalty was to ensure the deserving survived, and we ” took it public ” as a last resort. Politics is a ” public sport ” and media presentations should be digested as such -pure politics! Wiles ” public presentation ” had a political purpose – or not – but it wasn’t anything earth shattering – unless you survive by hand-wringing and propaganda derangement syndrome. Not to be suprised, already seeing Trump & Vance turning it into positive media….Hmmmm?
Maybe this is Trump’s way of getting her to work double time.
Heaven help President Trump!!!
He needs to help himself.
Wiles doesn’t do that interview without his express permission.
Susie Wiles was Netanyahu’s chief of staff
“Susie Wiles, Corey Lewandowski, and Tony Fabrizio, Trump’s campaign ‘A-team’, set up shop at the Leonardo Plaza Hotel. Netanyahu’s staff had asked for help, and Trump delivered.”
https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/how-donald-trump-once-helped-israel-s-benjamin-netanyahu-win-elections/ar-AA1Hja8d
No she wasn’t – her, and Corey Lewandowski, and some others went to Israel in 2020 to advise Netanyahu on his election campaign, but they left very soon amidst claims that Netanyahu’s Likud Party couldn’t afford to pay them.
That’s say it all !!!!!
What how and when will President Trump respond ?
Superb.
Termination for cause. If she cannot keep the confidences of her office, she’s of worse than zero value. And she can take that spotlight ranger of an “AG” with her.
Give it a rest. She hasn’t leaked or discussed anything classified. She’s entitled to her opinions, and I can’t imagine that she sat for the interviews without the President’s blessing. So stop clutching your pearls and hyperventilating.
Appears Mr. Whipple squeezed Suzie’s Charmin.
😂 😂 😂
Gosh, you mean she isn’t a Trump born in the blood loyalist? 🙄
President Trump, there’s no time like the present: Susie Wiles “cut the cheese”…she’s got to go!