President Donald Trump is once again asking Republicans in the senate to terminate or suspend the filibuster, get tough, and reopen government.
Trump notes a point CTH has emphasized, Joe Manchin and Krysten Sinema were the only thing that stopped the Democrats from terminating the filibuster in the last congress. Both Manchin and Sinema are gone. If Democrats retake the majority of the Senate, they will terminate the filibuster.
Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt shared the video on Twitter:
“REPUBLICANS: BE TOUGH, SMART, AND WIN!” – @POTUS pic.twitter.com/ufCuPJO0oF
— Karoline Leavitt (@PressSec) November 6, 2025
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No. If the Senate ends the filibuster, the only branch of government with the filibuster will be the executive branch. Trump filibusters all the time.
Keep the filibuster in the Senate where it belongs.
At least get rid of the “silent” filibuster. It’s much too easy now to block legislation without any effort except a no vote. Make them work for it!
Just read that Thune is keeping Senate in session this weekend and will introduce a bill to claw back unused COVID funds tomorrow. I Believe that would only require a simple majority so finally getting some action by GOP.
This. I have no problem with a legitimate filibuster, but what we have today is lazy ass man filibuster. Same with the stupid practice of blocking nominees by simply raising an objection. You don’t like somebody? Vote against them.
The Senate is a stupid joke because of their rules meant to make bad behavior, or stalling, easier.
The Democrats will end it the next time they take the Senate.
then we have to make sure they dont.
Except there is nothing we can do to stop the D’s. They already rigged the elections in many states.
That is a bit naive and not supported by any REAL perspective judging from past political events!
And what Thune and Johnson are doing is helping the Dems to win. This is GOPe version 2 stopping President Trump. The Republicans are UniParty traitors.
True story, which is why the GOP should do it. It’s going to happen. Like it or not. Just a matter of time
The Senate is no longer a rational deliberative body that tries to compromise on legislation to help solve problems. Maybe it really never was, but in today’s world it’s just a body driving leftist ideology.
There is no doubt that our country is in a free fall mess heading toward socialism. It has only been somewhat slowed in the past, but not in today’s world. The left want power and control and they will do everything to get it. Just look at the corruption in our elections that have occurred and continue to occur yet Congress has little interest in stopping the corruption.
So maybe the Filibuster was ok when you had most of the Senators at least cared about our Constitutional Republic. That has long since past, IMO.
Unfortunately, we are in a political war to save our country and we need to take the handcuffs off so we can get things done(Election Integrity). Otherwise we are toast.
JMO
You are so right….Election Integrity ….is the whole ball of wax. If we don’t take this opportunity, and there is no other way, to correct our elections to reflect the will of the people then it will never be done. This is not the Dem Party of old. This is the Communist Party and many dems will not go against it for fear. Just look at who is on board with keeping the filibuster…..a bunch of RINOs who are in with the establishment Dems. I really believe that if we gain election integrity back….this new communist party is toast. The Filibuster can always be re established when we defeat the Communist. DEFEAT THE COMMUNIST,
DEFEAT THE COMMUNISTS (there’s more than one), fixed it for you.
The Senate stopped being a rational deliberative body after the ratification of the 17th Amendment.
You know they will! We might as well do it first and get some important things codified.
Yup.
Yep.
When Republicans win an election, they take office.
When Democrats win an election, they take power.
Weak-willed GOP needs stiffening up!
You won’t be dealing with Democrats the next time. You will be dealing with Communists.
This is a war. And the enemy is now well inside the gates. They have just about conquered one party.
End the filibuster immediately, and move quickly on Trump’s patriotic agenda to stop it.
The Senate _will_ end the filibuster no matter what: we have to make sure the Republicans end it on closer to our terms and get what we can, rather than holding on to a fraud of honor, which will do two things, Jack and —-…
What? Where in the Constitution is the filibuster again?
exactly.. tradition so what.. these are urgent times
It is not even tradition. The current rules have only existed since the Democrats effectively got rid of the filibuster in the 1970s and replaced it with the super-majority 60-vote requirement, which is what cloture is now called.
What people think of when the word filibuster comes up, that of one or more senators starting a non-stop talking session, as in the classic 1939 Jimmy Stewart movie “Mr. Smith Goes to Washington”, doesn’t happen any more. Cloture was adopted in 1917 to enable forcing such a filibuster to be halted with at least 60 votes in favor. Pretty much everything else was passed with only a simple majority. That all ended in the 1970s when the Democrats controlled Congress and rewrite the cloture rule to be a super-majority requirement for almost everything. It was a new invention that had the effect of putting both the House of Representatives and White House in a subordinate position to the Senate by requiring both to come groveling to the Senate if they wanted anything passed.
The 1970s “cloture” rule should be eliminated, but the Uniparty in the Senate won’t do it because too much of their power over the rest of government depends upon maintaining it, and that is why enough of the RINOs are willing to let the shutdown continue in order to preserve it.
Don’t believe that is correct. Rule XXII on cloture was amended to require 2/3rds of senators duly sworn, then amended later to 2/3rds present and voting before coming to its current 3/5ths senators duly sworn.
But much of the real battle was over whether changes to Rule XXII were themselves subject to cloture or not.
The so-called “nuclear option” is based on the idea that the President of the Senate can issue a ruling that changes to Rule XXII do not require cloture. That ruling can be appealed but a majority vote in the Senate can sustain the ruling. I’m not 100% sure if the appeal is debatable.
Note that a cloture motion if passed does not end debate, but sets a timetable for debate to end.
“It was a new invention that had the effect of putting both the House of Representatives and White House in a subordinate position to the Senate by requiring both to come groveling to the Senate if they wanted anything passed.” This could be something to be challenged on Constitutional grounds, i.e. co – equal branches of government. Everyone is currently concerned about inferior court judges attempting to run the country however the Senate has had a decades – long quest to acquire Executive branch power for itself. Recent case in point: https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2025/11/04/senate-republicans-furious-over-president-trump-acting-like-commander-in-chief-shifting-military-forces-away-from-europe/
“Each House may determine the rules of its proceedings”
Art I/5/2
guidance, not a law … 2 completely different things.
Same place as the blue slips.
Blue slips are not written into the rules. Those are purely a custom.
Cloture is part of the Senate’s written rules.
Each legislative body can set its own rules. That is in the Constitution. The filibuster is a rule of the Senate. Therefore it can be modified or eliminated by the Senate at its leisure.
Yes merely guidance, not a requirement …nuke it.
It is from Article I, Section 5 of the Constitution: “Each House may determine the Rules of its Proceedings,”
They are free to make up whatever oddball rules they like.
If some day they decided to make each other wear powdered wigs and stand on one foot they could do that too.
How braindead do you have to be…
only two dem senators stopped it the last time. end it and jam everything we need down their throats right effing now.
What? You are not making any sense.
It’s not in the constitution. It is simply a uni-party tool to avoid passing legislation that the people want but that is not in the best interest of the uni-party agenda. It gives them an out.
What is the use of winning an election only to be nurtured by the minority. It’s an anti-democratic senate created procedural rule.
It’s an
anti-democraticanti-populist Senate created procedural rule.Fixed it for you.
It makes a world of difference of perspective when you consider that the original architecture of the Federal Government was anti-democratic to begin with. The separation of powers between a unitary Executive, bicameral Congress with Senators chosen by State’s legislatures and popular elections for Representatives, as well as an coequal judiciary in the Supreme Court. We have a Republic, if we can keep it. A Republic that is supposed to defend the natural God-given rights of the ultimate minority, the individual.
Nuke the filibuster, pass election integrity measures that already passed the House, including voter ID and verified citizenship audited multiple times a year. Then add paper ballots handcounted at precinct level. Then reinstitute the filibuster. Having verifiable elections will enable us to have the needed votes to raise the filibuster-breaking threshold or anything we want. Clean elections will enable us to pass all of the America 1st Agenda for 2, 4, 6 years. But if we let them cheat in 2026, and steal the Senate, we can kiss our country goodbye.
The RINOs need to learn that Election Integrity would save our country more than a Filibuster! We made it “too big to rig” in a miraculous election that will be in the history books. We may not be given a 2nd chance to clean up the elections. Of course Adam Schiff will vote against it. But we shouldn’t need his vote to clean up the process! Nuke The Filibuster Now!
Don’t forget no mail in ballots, single day voting. Make it a holiday if you want.
All of the above.
And purple dye on the middle finger after voting.
By the way, thanks for posting this. The election issue is my primary perspective also.
Many Republicans are Democrat enablers. They are forever checking the air for polling winds, resisting angering the enemy back home.
I think the enemy back home is already angered!
Yes!
And stop counting non citizens in the census to determine the number of representatives a state will get.
Democrats will not allow that to happen which is another method to retain power. When you have 15M-20M + non citizens that influence the number of representatives a state gets it’s a big incentive to have more come into the country and state-damn the citizens.
one of my biggest fears is the Dems plan to pack the Supreme Court.
PDJT has been getting so much done despite constant lawfare against all of his EO’s, because the Supreme Court has eventually decided in his favor.
If the Dems pack the court, they’ll immediately add enough Ketanji-Brown types to ensure all future cases go the Dems way. Even if the R’s get back in power, they will have only a few opportunities to appoint SC Justices as they retire. And each one will have far less decision-making power if the SC holds 21 Justices instead of 9.
That’s why I think getting rid of the filibuster is more important than whether the federal govt pays for ObamaCare subsidies another year.
A republic is designed to run with morally cohesive and mutually-respected members. When that is lost the system goes Def-Con 5. We are mortal enemies of these Marxists, why do we pretend otherwise??
That’s an excellent point. I remember seeing a quote from John Adam’s say that to survive as a Republic requires a moral and religious people. Not an exact quote, but close. And, I think, in terms of including “religious “ I think he was saying our rights come from our creator-not government.
Just listening to these people in Congress and Senate lie, hide truths, manipulate, and create an chaotic atmosphere to get what they want is very obvious we do not have a “ morally cohesive and mutually-respected members”
Just look at former VP candidate Sen. Kaine; he had no clue what the MAIN POINT of the Declaration of Independence meant by castigating those stupid Americans who think our rights don’t come from creeps like him!!! And he is a sitting Senator of a state that was one of the 13 original Colonies……
At least Sen. Cruz made him look like a retard right after he made that incredible comment.
Rafael didn’t have to do that since Timmy does quite well on his own proving that he is a retard.
The states were sovereign when they gained independence from the British Empire. All the states separately voted to form a Republic.
Our ancestors formed a Republic but the descendants did not keep it. The Republic was over in 1861 when half the states voted to secede.
The rights of sovereign states and citizens wete annuled and this was codified at the tip of bayonets by 1865.
America became another aspiring and expanding imperial empire, by a centralized, all powerful federal government.
Waging incessant genocidal wars of territorial expansion against all peoples to the west, along with territories in the Caribbean and Pacific from dying European Empires and overthrowing, regime changing, of a Native kingdom Hawaii.
The Imperial Federal government maintained dominance in these territories, exemplified by retaining direct territorial ownership of most lands in what became “states”. More accurately called provinces or colonies.
Except for a brief period from 1945 to 1990 of unprecedented economic prosperity for most citizens, poverty was and again is the norm. Which enhances the power of the elite class. The myth that our version of empire was superior and we attained permanent wealth for our people in perpetuity is proven failed.
The current power struggle between the oligarch purchased senators over managing the Empire’s decline is pathetic. None care about the national well being, rather are posturing and leveraging power for control in the best interests’ of their donors.
An actual civil war between right and left and chaotic revolution is a very real outcome of decades of incompetent and corrupt governance.
I understand your point. HOWEVER, we are dealing with extremists on the Left. They are currently working on getting the Old Guard of Democrats out and trying to replace them with young Communist/Marxists. Our Senate (and Congress) is going to look like Europe or Canada! We can’t have that.
The Democrats fight dirty, dirty, dirty. They don’t give a hoot about the people they say they care about. They want raw power and they don’t care who they have to mow down (the American people) to get what they want. Our Republic is at stake here. Keeping the high bar for ourselves (tolerance, high moral ground) will only give them more power. I say, cut them off at the knees. I’m with Trump.
I don’t understand the dem strategy. Do they really think they’re going to get a place at the table should their plan succeed. Or are they planning to grab all they can on the way down?
why have a majority if that isn’t enough to get things passed? Use the majorities power and vote accordingly. Drop the filibuster because it gives the minority power to stop you.
The reason republicans want the filibuster is because it gives the minority bargaining power. That tells me they’d prefer to be in the minority and selling their votes on legislation while pretending to be nonpartisan and doing what’s “in the interests” of our nation. Really, it’s in the interests of their own wallets.
well said. Sundance once wrote that McConnell was more effective in the minority. Perhaps he’s whispering in Thune’s ear to sell us out.
Perhaps?
Exactly on point.
The GOP’s ideal position is being in a razor thin minority.
It gives the leverage to create dramatic narrative optics of opposing the disasterous policies both parties share in principle, but “blame” on each other.
But the GOP needs to retain sufficient leverage to not lose the ability to maintain the federal subsidies to enrich their large amount donors, while simultaneously being able to blame their corruption and duplicity on the voters for failing to give them majorities.
It’s pathetic to watch the extreme raw emotions of each faction of the public in hatred against the other faction, believing that their hollow, corrupt and incompetent politicians actually give a rats’ rear about “their” interests.
With the practise of creating money out of thin air to distribute reaching critical mass of debt the approaching crash is causing elevated stress and pressure on these scoundrels.
The focus of each party now is to position itself in a manner that the “other” faction is blamed.
I agree with PDJT. I get that the filibuster is supposed to be a tool of compromise. But, the Dems are using it like a human shield (the humans being Americans losing benefits and federal paychecks).
Dems cheat every election, so I don’t believe we can ‘vote them out’, which should be the way citizens resolve these conflicts.
If the current Senate gets rid of the filibuster, can’t they add it back when a new Senate is sworn in? My understanding is the filibuster was added many years ago, not part of the Constitution. So, why shouldn’t the party in power use it (or remove it) to their benefit?
It is part of the body’s operating rules but it is not set in stone, it can be suspended or ditched entirely.
This issue is one I sincerely can’t make up my mind about.
Yes…I’m 100% certain next time Dems hold Senate, they dump it totally.
But at same time…if the Senate is supposed to function different from the House as Founders intended, making everthing subject to simply majority votes seems pointless.
But the filibuster is merely an artifact of Senate rules…it is NOT a Constitutional provision.
Sigh…..yes….reluctantly….GOP should dump it and pass laws.
The only.difference the founders intended was that the house was to be a populas body directly voted 2 year elections to make them nibble to change.
The semate.was suppose to be representative of the state’s elected governments to give them a more pragmatic and measured outlook.
Super majorities required to remove a president or amend the constitution NO fillabister in the founding documents
True, our Founders’ original design and intent was both to give Senators “a more pragmatic and measured outlook” and more importantly,… wedded to the interests and concerns of their respective state leaders who elected them, not their state’s general populace,… nor to a national political party or Big Wig donors, foreign or domestic,…. as they have devolved into now.
Once elected now, their campaign war chest filled with donor funds makes it extremely difficult to defeat them via election or remove them from their exalted positions,… and all by their design.
Pragmatic and Measured are not in the prog playbook.
Not a “pragmatic and measured outlook”!
It was designed explicitly to protect the interests of the states against the power of the federal government and federal usurpation of states rights.
Once the senators became popularly elected, they ceased to represent state governments by answering only to voters, same as House members.
And the change also failed to solve the very problem which spawned it.
Totally FUBAR.
People also forget that the bulk of the cleaning up of voter fraud has to come from the states. 50 states individually need to do this. I’m not optimistic. Congress can only affect the Presidential election.
Yes, the original setup of the Senate was put in place to “temper the passions of the People” vis a vis the House of Representatives.
The silent filibuster is what should be going away.
The filibuster as was used originally was essentially debating a bill to death, keeping it from being voted on and also keeping the body from adjournment by lengthy speeches and grandstanding. They had to stay there and outlast the filibusterer.
The more recent innovation is literally just saying “filibuster” without all the rest of that business being done. It is nonsensical. Things might be a little different if Congressmen actually had to suffer the extended company of their own who invoke the filibuster.
We dpnt need the theatrical or the extra constitutional filibuster. Let’s let the inventions of those that brought us the last civil war, shrival on the vine
The Senate and House have authority over the making and enforcing of parliamentary rules on their membership. The Executive and Judiciary have no power over that.
Correct. “Each House may determine the rules of its proceedings”. Unless the rules conflict with the Constitution they are presumptively constitutional.
Can’t the senate parliamentarian change it herself?
Agreed. let’s bring back those long speaking filibusters.
Some handy hints for a senator who might think he can go on and on for hours…and what to do if he’s been drinking water to keep his voice from running dry….
https://www.businessinsider.com/cory-booker-floor-speech-water-ted-cruz-2025-4?op=1
I don’t like how he said “Corey’s a good friend”. How could he be friends with such a slimy person?
So no Mr Smith Goes to Washington filibusters, no non-stop talking for about 25 hours? Who knew?
Hopefully, they have enough stones to toss it out. Then, the Republicans will be credited with ending the shutdown….just maybe. We never know how the hired fake media will portray it.
The constitution is only as good as its people.
For any not paying attention, we don’t have a very good people.
I appreciate the frustrations of the stalemate, but if the judicial branch shouldn’t be telling the executive branch how to exercise (or not) its powers, then the executive branch should not be telling the legislative branch how to pass legislation.
It may get even more interesting. The court of appeals refused to stay the district court judge’s order to find money somewhere to fund an unappropriated program (SNAP).
The supervising justice for this circuit just stayed the district court order. The justice? Ketanji Brown Jackson. Really.
It’s called.politics. It is not a decree It is a strongly worded letter.
It is not a decree It is a strongly worded letter.
True it’s just a communication to the Senate GOP. But the judge’s order, like so many judicial orders since Trump took office, is purely political, and unless the judge is a complete idiot (not impossible), he knows that SCOTUS will likely stay his order even if the court of appeals does not.
The Dem judges’ goal is just to delay the administration’s action, even if only for a few days, and score some political points against Trump.
Resist, Delay and Deny.
Same thing Big Insurance does.
Every delay costs us dearly.
They are not trivial.
The beatings will continue until morale improves. Which is to say, that we as a people go along willingly with the globalist program.
It is going to get uglier before it gets better.
lets get together, yah yah yah, two can have more fun than oneun. a grusome twosome we will be and you can always count on me, phil and buster, yah yah yah.😳
In the meantime, between rulings that will be overturned … the funds are gone. As intended.
Well he. Can’t legally do it, so they will have to call in the courts Pretorian guard, oh wait they don’t have one
“No money shall be drawn from the treasury but in consequence of appropriations made by law”
7 U.S. Code § 2013(a)(1).
“Subject to the availability of funds appropriated under section 2027 of this title,
the Secretary is authorized to formulate and administer a supplemental nutrition assistance program
…
to obtain a more nutritious diet”
The judicial branch is forcing the presidents hand.
Trump is just asking them to do something.
Unless he goes and strong as them through some type of force.
Given that at least five Republican Senators (Thune, McConnell, Cruz, Tillis and Murkowski) are firmly against the move, the math currently does not add up.
If the Democrat politicians think that they will have the next term at majority people should not be surprised if there becomes a majority of Democrats that say yes, it’s time to end the filibuster, so those five Republican Senators might not be needed.
It just depends on how sure the Democrats are they will be the next ones up to bat to steamroll their agenda through.
And that’s the fear factor eating at people – the uncertainty. But President Trump really is a street fighter and his sense of timing, even when thrown every curveball imaginable, remains spot on.
And shucks, ChiCom Mitch appointed himself Chairman of the rules committee & Susie Collins, chairman of the appropriations committee.
Convenient eh?
Mixed feelings about this and as some have pointed out, it’s really the silent filibuster that should be canned. That said, if the Demonrats are fixing to axe it next time they are in power, it would better to axe it now and pass some things. The ultimate question is are there enough squish Republicons to side with Demonrats and defeat legislation even without the filibuster. I really don’t trust the Rs at this point.
Also, the Dems are going to increase the number of justices on the SCOTUS the next time they are in power, so shouldn’t we also do that now that we have the power and can nominate conservative justices?
I know it will never happen because of all the RINOs.
Terminate the filibuster and pass election reforms immediately. Prove that your an American citizen, Photo ID, paper ballots, voting in person on 1 day with hand counting the ballots with the winners announced before midnight.
This will make the Dems a permanent minority voting party with the true supermajority elected to office where real constitutional reforms can be implemented.
Can’t they rebuke it next time they take the White House?
“Bendover Thune” claims they don’t have the votes to suspend the filibuster…. this gutless jackboot has subverted the legal voting majority for his entire senatorial gig and is now willing to give the dem commies anything they want. He’s McConnell v2.0
This shutdown is by design of the Uniparty to make trump look bad and lose the House 2026. As Senator John Kennedy stated, the senate is made up of ice-cold, lazy butts: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/11/senator-john-kennedy-torches-do-nothing-senate-weve/
WHATEVER IT TAKES
Thune was the handpicked successor to McConnell. It was to be expected that he would be takeing the lead from him.
It would say a lot about people who have little or no confidence in institutions that have blatantly lied to their face for many years are now suddenly going to believe the shutdown was President Trump’s fault instead of Congress.
Simpler explanation is that the reporting is more gaslighting pushing the predetermined results. It’s all fake and gay.
Too many listen to it though
If we nuke the filibuster, 50 Republicans still couldn’t pass any legislation. Too many RINO’s.
That’s what I’m afraid of, too.
screw it. head for the war.
They would get passed whatever they nuked it for… then it would be crickets, yeah.
It’s exactly this. The cloture rule gives them cover.
Look who is opposed to eliminating it and it tells you all you need to know: McConnell, Murkowski, Thune, Cruz, Tillis – the RINO 5, with their “sixth-man,” Collins waiting for the next buzzer.
President Trump is correct on this.
The fear factor is also intense because of the reminder that people can’t count of their fellow citizens making intelligent decisions when they vote, for the long term and future generations of their children vs the quick freebies, the chicken in every pot, the politicians like to promise.
But, with the filibuster rule, the blue slip rule and who knows what other archaic rules the two houses of congress have piled onto their work – those were never in the Constitution, they were simply rules politicians created over 100 years ago that are weighing down the work that needs to be done in the now by this country, this President, and this Administration if we really are going to have a chance to restore this republic.
McConnell ended the blue slip rule for circuit court nominees. The appeals circuits each encompasses several states (except for the DC Circuit and the Federal Circuit – the latter hears patent, trademark, contract, SS benefits and other federal benefits cases), and the old blue slip rule let any senator in any circuit blue slip a nominee, not just nominees from the senator’s home state. Now the senators can only blue slip a district court nominee who will sit in the USDC in the senator’s state.
Couldn’t agree more. End the filibuster now.
JMO.
Senator Thune has one job and that is to get the republican senate majority to vote for ALL of the MAGA / America First policies as requested by its leader, President Trump. President Trump wants the unconstitutional filibuster rule (not a law) eliminated, now.
Shoe-mer could and would get the needed democrat votes to eliminate the filibuster if he were ever to get back into power.
Thune’s failure to do the same for the republicans is a disloyal act to President Trump and all MAGA / America Firsters.
The fact that his name is even on the following list of 24 RINOs, who refused to eliminate the filibuster, is justification enough for President Trump to ask for a loyal MAGA / America First senator to replace him as leader in the Senate.
President Trump can change the Gulf’s name to America, he for sure can demand that Thune be replaced if he won’t change his tune on getting the majority of republicans to vote to eliminate the filibuster as requested by President Trump, the leader of the Republican Party.
Mitch McConnell,
Shelley Moore Capito,
Lisa Murkowski,
Rand Paul,
John Barrasso,
Susan Collins,
Tom Cotton,
Kevin Cramer,
Pete Ricketts,
Mike Rounds,
Rick Scott,
Dan Sullivan,
John Curtis,
Joni Ernst,
Chuck Grassley,
John Hoeven,
Thom Tillis,
**********John Thune,**********
Roger Wicker,
Todd Young,
Jon Husted,
John Kennedy,
James Lankford,
Cynthia Lummis.
MAGA / America First isn’t just our motto, it is our duty!
Most of the GOP is adversarial to the same interests that President Trump represents in MAGA. The GOPe wing of the Uniparty will gladly sell you out and backstab you with a smile on their face. That is what we are facing. The things they do pass that are in our interest are typically the same ones that align with their interests lest we forget.
President Trump is substantively correct which is why he is utilizing the bully pulpit and making the case in the court of public opinion. We have the numbers in flyover country to make Congressmen more than just bit uncomfortable.
R F Burns,
Thanks for your comments.
Good points!
What Thune is doing is just a version of the same-o-Catch-22 trap used by the democrats / RINOs in their unsuccessful attempts to stop President’s effort to Make America Great Again by using America First policies.
They have been setting these type of traps for President Trump, unsuccessfully, for 4 years.
It is their standard globalist / communist / democrat / RINO Catch-22 Trap.
It is the only trap they have. They are a one-trick pony.
President Trump knows there is a universal way to not fall for their “catch-22” traps:
….. you ignore their unconstitutional rules and
………. make your own constitutional rules and
…………… clear your own pathway
……………….. to where you want to end up.
……………………… then you just go.
Watch carefully ….. as President Trump beats them again.
“MAGA isn’t jus our motto, it is our duty!”
Well, John Kennedy tried…
He had 2 bills that would say
congress wouldn’t get paid
if other government workers didn’t get paid.
Of course, Rand Paul said no to both.
Kennedy looked despondent as they interviewed him.
Where are the OMB RIFs??
I think yet another rogue judge tried to stop them?
I vaguely recall the RIF’s can’t kick in for 60 or 90 days or something like that.
Senior United States District Judge, Susan Illston, Northern District of CA., Clinton nominee confirmed in 1995, issued preliminary injunction on the RIF’s. She called the terminations “political retribution.” However, this applies only to those who were terminated after the shutdown, not before.
No mixed feelings for me. Follow the lead of PDJT !!
Republicans don’t play to win. They haven’t in a long time.
As Sundance frequently reminds us: the R priority is money and the D priority is power. The R’s will preserve the filibuster because R leadership uses it when in the minority to preserve their place at the trough in exchange for permitting the D ideologues to get their way.
Of course, Trump is right. The D’s will get rid of it so they can continue their quest for power. R’s should strike while the iron is hot and clean things up: enact voter id, get rid of the fraud and corruption across all social welfare programs, enact the provisions of the BBB and reign in the IC abuses. But I’m afraid they won’t.
The Dems are now driven by the radical far-left. When they get into power, they go scorched earth. Look what they have done to VA since they have gotten power within the past 15 years. They have passed laws that have undone voter ID which allows illegals to vote, implemented mail-in ballots, stretched voting to 45 days, allow mail-in ballots until after the election, etc. If these radical Dems become majority in the Senate again, Trump is right that the GOP will rue the day they didn’t listen to him now.
Damned if you do, damned if you don’t….
Too bad they can’t pause the filibuster to just pass the CR and open up the gubmint.
Didn’t McConnell do that a few years back?
Of course President Trump knows that the RINOS want to lame duck him asap and destroy MAGA in the process.
Actually, they could.
Nothing preventing a rule change to eliminate filibuster ONLY for financial bills.
The “fake” filibuster needs to be tossed onto the garbage heap. If you want to stall the proceedings, rather than simply threatening to filibuster, you should have to get up on your own two feet and explain yourself the old fashioned way, like Mr. Smith did.
On the other hand, every day that Congress meets, we loose a little bit more liberty. Meanwhile DJT’s agenda items are stalled, so I’m conflicted. On the one hand, I hope that Congress never meets again. On the other hand, I don’t want POTUS’ agenda to loose momentum.
As things crash and burn during this shutdown, it just proves that government has its fingers in too many things. Except for the military, I don’t feel the least bit sorry for any government employee not getting paid … and Congress shouldn’t be paid either! Government employees know full well that this kind of silliness is a periodic risk, so they should either budget accordingly, or (preferably), find employment elsewhere. The government is too bloated, as it is!!!
While the shutdown is needless, the Democrats are right to be concerned about healthcare cost coverage.
My suggestion:
PARTIAL ENHANCED SUBSIDY CONTINUATION [to 2036]
Except as required by the Fair Share PPACA premium minimums below, the monthly premium to be paid on a plan shall not exceed the Schumer formula amount by more than 1.5 times the household’s income in percentage terms of FPL exceeds 90% FPL in terms of dollars.
If the household’s income is 400% of FPL, the percentage difference is 310% and increase would typically be capped at $465/month.
If the household’s income is 300% of FPL, the percentage difference is 210% and increase would typically be capped at $315/month.
FAIR SHARE PPACA PREMIUM MINIMUMS
I would impose premium minimums of the higher of:
1. 1/65th of the Medicare Part B premium amount per insured year of age as of the start of coverage
2. one-tenth the percentage of the policy premium of the household income as a percentage of FPL.
For a 5-year-old, 7-year-old, 32-year-old and 34-year-old, the ages would sum to 88 and the monthly absolute minimum premium amount would be a (88/65)*$185 or $250.46.
For a 5-year-old kid and a 27-year-old mom the ages would sum to 32 and the monthly absolute minimum premium amount would be (32/65)*$185 or $91.07.
For the second minimum, a family whose income is 300% of FPL would have to pay at least 30% (one-tenth of 300%) of the cost of the policy.
[NOTE: About half the premium is to subsidize unhealthy people. Paying 30% is covering well over 60% of true risks of most insureds.]
Insurers may partially waive the minimums for up to 20% of their PPACA policy holders after the first month’s premium is paid provided a $20 financial review fee is paid upfront.
How about no!
A hard NO! The communist democrats (now islamocrats) created this…let them own it.
NO … the Obamacare Subsidies are paid by TAX Money.
Your analogy is NOT a GOOD Comparison because I PAID into a Social Security and Medicare BENEFIT Program …. which is NOT some open ended entitlement give away. It is supposed to be akin to an INVESTMENT Payment into an INVESTMENT fund that pays out FUTURE Benefits in return. The fact we pay premiums after qualifying for payments is evidence as to the ABUSE of the fund by CONGRESS, which the funds short of assets to fulfill the Governments end of the benefit contract. By the way I am currently TAXED on the Social Security Payout if my income is too high … that’s right taxed on money collected as a tax in the first place.
It is a TAX not passed nor authorized by CONGRESS, per their Article I responsibilities .. which is HIDDEN in the form a subsidy.
Just like the robbery from the social Security fund, in the form of SSI and SS Disability … CONGRESS does not want to debate and structure an ENTITLEMENT TAX PAYMENT levied vs the 50% of citizens who actually pay taxes and US Businesses.
Plus, the Democrats want to continue this hidden TAX in support of the 10’s of Millions of Biden Auto-Pen, Obama DACA and Bush II Amnestied immigrants turned into “legal residents”. They want to open the door 100% to entitlements for all who cross and have crossed or been trafficked across the border.
A 10 – year extension? You are insane.
I have also suggested that the House come up with a partial enhanced subsidy continuation plan.
Don’t expect a good result from Democratic donkey senators & foolish RINO senators.
MAGA.
JMO.
Wow, with his defying President Trump’s request to eliminate the unconstitutional Senate filibuster rule (not law), Senator Thune has jumped out ahead of the other senate RINOs as the leading contender for the “2025 McCain Disloyal Award”.
Even pulling way out in front of the perennial contender Rand Paul.
Thune is NOT defying Trump on this.
Thune is merely telling Trump that enough GOP Senators refuse to change the rules.
Ramrod, Donald:
“Men,….Head them Marxist Dims Up,… Run’em Off and Out,… then get them Rino strays herded Up and Run’em Out, as well! Then we’ll be Ridin Free, High and Wide,… til the end of our ride!”
“Trollin, Trollin, Trollin!”
The argument repeated often by those still clinging to the filibuster is that it protects the rights of the minority from the passions of the majority. In the Constitution, that concern was addressed by the invention of a bicameral legislature. Thus each house checks and balances the other. Also, the President is given the veto, the exercise thereof specifically calls for supermajorities to override. That is where the 2/3 majority requirement to pass legislation is found.
The Senate filibuster blocks votes and blocks legislation. It forces the government to grow by requiring continuing resolutions, given that regular spending bills can’t get through. This is a shift of power to the legislature and the bureaucracy, at the expense of the President, because the President sees the opportunity to exercise the veto effectively taken away. As continuing resolutions grow the government, we have seen how money is redirected from appropriated purposes to other uses (USAID).
President Trump is right. Republicans have an opportunity to wield power, and yet they recoil from it out of unfounded fears. Power isn’t something you are given; power is something you take. Leadership requires taking responsibility for governing. Wringing hands and pointing fingers will not reopen the government. Doing as the President says carries risk, the risk of defeating the Democrats. What about that?
The United States government cannot be “shut down” forever. It is ridiculous and everyone knows it.
Why not? It shines a spotlight on the uniparty. More and more each day americans are beginning to rightfully detest the legislature of the USA and the judiciary of the USA.
the legislative portion of the US government is a broken instrument which no longer represents the people and now refuse to answer to the will of the people expressed in the 2024 election. The judiciary has devolved into a horde of wanna be dictators obstructing the executive branch.
This is why:
https://www.glennbeck.com/radio/squeeze-dems-shutdown-choking-economy
End it Now!
What did General Patton do to those two mules on the bridge in Sicily that were causing his 3rd Army column to be strafed by German fighter plane gunfire,… he shot’em in the head and pushed the stubborn, then dead, animals over the bridge to clear the way for his troops under fire to proceed and escape the strafing. He protected his troops.
Donald should push the filibuster rule over the bridge NOW to free America First and MAGA from the strafing from both the Anti-American Marxist Dims and their political cohorts, the RI”NO”s. Then get passed clean election legislation to prevent the Marxist Dims from stealing any future elections.
Why? Cuz he now has a mandate to enact the Will of We The People who duly and legally elected him to do just that. Ignore the rest,… get it done, time is of the essence now. Protect your troops, PDJ Trump.
I think that would be the 7th Army? Or maybe George C Scott.
Whichever and Whomever,…. on his way to Palermo, Sicily in his ‘recon-n-force’.
Amen.
It’s the dumbest thing anyway. How can you have majority-vote rule the House and a super majority requirement in the Senate?
Schumer has astutely made this shutdown our problem now.
Republican’ts find a way.
GOPrick RINOrats cry no fair, we haven’t shown our best work yet……..folding like a cheap suit to the demonrats. We’ve got to give them everything they want.
Also, the current 53-47 of the Senate let’s at least 4 GOPrick RINOrats hide behind the filibuster (Vance tie breaker at 3) knowing they can’t make 60. Get rid of the filibuster and they have to show their colors voting with the demonrats. 🤪
I can see it now, get rid of filibuster and every vote has a “look, it’s bipartisan” 51-49 demonrat/GOPrick RINOrat vote.
Of course in a non-fraud world, “Republicans” should probably have at least 56 senators and probably more. They knew at election time they needed to throw as many as they could get away with, but still have a (more manageable) slim majority.
Some might say, 4 Senators would never vote with demonrats to get around the Vance tie breaker at 50-50. Miss Lindsey might be one of them, Thune another. I bet they would in a nanosecond. What are we gonna do about it?
You know damn well AK Murkowski would vote with dems……or go ahead and switch parties.
Sorry another thought. With filibuster now, 3-4 dems are “allowed” to vote with “Republicans”. Who thinks Fetterman would still vote with Republicans if there wasn’t a filibuster?
We are witnessing the push back by the UniParty RINOs against President Trump. Paralyzing government and the economy hurts people in general and MAGA in particular. This is Russiagate 2.0 with RINOs leading the way. We would have won NJ if the RINOs would have passed vote fraud reform. They do not want it. Between the Communist Judges and the UniParty Legislators the President is hamstrung like his first term.
Requiring 60 votes is stupid. Terrible. Has ruined this country. Nothing gets done , Rome is burning
Thune won’t do it. To the Senators the President is a transient figurehead and they will have there positions long after he is gone. If ever there was a case for term limits, this is it
Thune CANNOT do it unilaterally.
If just 4 RINOs won’t vote to eliminate the rule, it CANNOT be changed.
The Uniparty abides.
Republicans explain the difference in democrats having control through majority as now having control through republicans not eliminating the filibuster? In President Trump’s first term, you sat back and let our nation suffer. Now you’re repeating that plan and the blame will again fall on you.
It seems to me that PDJT47 believes the republicans would side with him and pass the MAGA agenda. I believe he is incorrect.
The simp republicans are terrified to end the filibuster because it means they will be pressured to go along with the PDJT47 MAGA agenda, something many of them are loathe to do since PDJT47 will not be on the ballot in 2026. As things stand, they can safely vote in favor of ending the shutdown knowing full well that their friends across the aisle will protect them.
Terminating the filibuster will also show how weak the GOP is. With traitors like Paul, Collins, Tillis, and Murkowski, they will still have to rely on socialists like Fetterman who leans their way in lucid moments.
I think this is the perfect time for the GOP to tell traitors like Paul, Collins, and Murkowski, “YOU’RE FIRED!” and expel them from the party. No more reelection funds, etc. Go be an independent with Sanders and caucus with your real political allies.
If Tillis wasn’t retiring, I’d kick his a$$ to the curb, too.
Yes, the GOP would lose the majority in the Senate right now, but being in the majority isn’t doing them any good, so why not do a little housekeeping while the socialists are in disarray, leaderless, and their entire party platform is “Orange Man Bad?”
I’m sick and tired of all this talk about the republicans being the “big tent” only to have scum like Paul, Collins, and Murkowski betray the cause of freedom at critical moments.
Haven’t they already? It was all of them that voted for it but didn’t have enough without some democrats.
I was originally very skeptical about ending the filibuster, but the President is right about the Democrats doing it if they get the majority again. I’m now 100% on board. It has to be done now.
Fact check: Is the filibuster mentioned in the U.S. Constitution or Federalist Papers?
https://factually.co/fact-checks/politics/is-filibuster-in-constitution-or-federalist-papers-a2882c
I didnt know you probly all do so i looked it up
Oh My! The Republicans in Congress might actually have to DO something! Congress is full of Republican Traitors.
Ending the filibuster is a horrible idea. I would go so far as to argue that the Democrats are attempting to bait the Republicans into doing it. Yes, we all know the Democrats have an insatiable appetite for power. We also think we know they will terminate the filibuster if they regain control of the Senate. None of that changes the fact terminating the filibuster is a horrible idea.
As I look at the results of this latest election, one thing stands out to me: Lack of turnout on the GOP side. Turnout wins elections, hands down. Democrat voters hold their noses and vote for the (D) on the ticket, whether they think they are any good or not. Democrats, right down to the rank and file voter, understand power. Further, they understand the power of numbers.
Meanwhile, on the Republican/conservative side, we have voters who can’t be bothered to get off their keisters and go vote for someone who is 70% of what they want. Oh NOOOOOOOES … we must have 90% or better … shoot, from what I’ve seen our side demands purity. The candidate must be “America First”, or “MAGA”, or whatever other nonsense a voter may come up with. The voter pats themselves on the back for their precious “principles”, content and convinced they are sending a “message” to the party elites. They stay home, pronounce that those “stupid voters who put the socialist in office will learn their lesson as soon as they get a belly full of what they voted for.” And then, those “stupid voters” DON’T learn their lesson, and socialism marches on. And the conservative continues to beat the dead horse, and continues to not use early voting (because, of course, THAT’S a trap as well), complains when election day comes and those red voting districts mysteriously seem to be the ones with machine issues and on and on. I will say something that may very well piss a lot of people off: If you see yourself in any of what I’ve written in this paragraph, the average Democrat voter voting blindly for the (D) isn’t the “stupid” one, YOU ARE.
Imagine, if you will, the country being invaded and instead of every citizen doing whatever they could do to repel that invasion they just wait for the military to take care of business. In essence, they “vote” for the people they want to repel the invaders and then criticize their every move or failure. That, in essence, is what is occurring right now. The left adapts, improvises, and overcomes, while the right clings to their precious “principles” and stubbornly refuse to adapt to the environment as it stands. They can’t be bothered to vote for 70%, make excuses for why they have no time to help, and then wonder why it just keeps getting worse.
We are being invaded. We are at war. Never mind there are no bullets flying. We have an actual immigrant, Muslim, communist elected mayor of the largest city in America. You think it’s going to stop there? I’m old enough to remember a lot of things that, at the time, only happened in one place. Now, they are nationwide. See: Gay marriage, for one. See: No fault divorce and the out of control divorce rate in this country. I could go on. I’ve seen the results of incrementalism as implemented by the left. We are living it. And until the right realizes we aren’t getting back to the Good Ole America of my youth in one or two elections cycles and starts accepting incremental victories, we are going to lose.
Pericles is attributed with saying, “Just because you do not take an interest in politics, doesn’t mean politics won’t take an interest in you.” I’d like to modify that quote for modern times, and the right in particular: Just because you think your principles mean something to politics, doesn’t mean politics cares about your principles.
If the Right, as a body politic, behaved even 50% as the left does as a body politic the positive change in this country would be profound.
Try to at least emulate your screen name.
REALITY is that ALL political parties have suspended the Filibuster-60 vote rule via a Senate rules change ever since that Senate Rule has been in existence … whenever suspension of the rule was needed. It’s like a light switch that is turned off and on … and used to serve as a great excuse for inaction and faux hand wringing.
The whole .. eliminate or not eliminate … suspend or not suspend … is a total nothing burger argument … for bloviated fools like you whom think it matters.
LOL. “Bloviated fool” should be your s/n. You’re wrong. On two points.
1) The 60 vote rule exists for all legislation except for judicial appointments, budget reconciliation, and executive branch nominees. If you would like to show me specific instances where the rules were “suspended” in other cases, that don’t fit the above definitions, I’m open to it.
2) Trump isn’t talking about “suspending” the filibuster. His Truth Social post specifically says, “Terminate the filibuster, not just for the shutdown, but for everything else,” Trump wrote Nov. 2 on Truth Social. He said Democrats would end the filibuster “immediately, as soon as they get the chance. Our doing it will not give them the chance.”
If you want to have a rational debate on the pros and cons of “eliminating the filibuster” I’m open to it. If you want to come in with ad hominem to start it off by referring to me as a “bloviated fool” when your facts are wrong, then I will take you as the simpleton you present yourself to be.
Have a great day.
LOL you are an idiot .. it is a Senate Rule that can be changed and not a Constitutional Requirement.
As for specific examples … nearly every single Federal Judge appointed by McConnell, Thune and Schumer since 2016.
So, iow, you just proved what I actually said. Idiot.
You don’t actually read anything do you? You imagine what someone has written and then mindlessly respond.
What a blithering idiot …
There are cloture and procedural votes with every Judicial appointment as well as other legislation within the Senate which is a vote for suspension of the Filibuster rule … jack wad.
You’re as confident in your ignorance as a leftist is.
I agree with President Trump. At this point the dumpacraps have adopted a slash and burn attitude towards the country.
As much as I would normally hesitate to do this, POTUS is right. It’s time to end this.
The Filibuster is not in the Constitution. The intent was to slow deliberation, and give the minority party a chance to voice dissent. Now, it’s abused. We don’t require speaking anymore, so it’s basically a veto of anything and everything by the minority.
When you consider the fact that the DEMS almost ended it previously, and also that virtually every action of the Executive Branch is tied up with BS lawfare tactics, President Trump is correct. We are at a Turning Point in history. We have a short window of opportunity to correct the disaster of the Obama and bRibem years.
Git ‘er done!
The filibuster is an internal senate rule. It does not deserve protections NOT granted to significant constitutional protections (E.G.4th amendment).
Currently the rule allows legislators to throw up their hands and not do their jobs, crying we don’t have the votes. Let the chips fall, it’s going where it’s going.
Yes! End the filibuster so the president can get the country moving again. There is no reason not to end it….if the democrats re-gain the majority, they will just end it anyway if they need to. Republicans need to get brave and get it done.
Repeal the 17th. Senators were never meant to be popularly elected.
As far as the talk here about how our country is lost when the ‘rats take over the senate and nuke the filibuster, anyone who studies history knows all great powers, empires, etc. going back to ancient times rot from within. The USA is no different. We have been rotting for roughly 60 years now. Examples: Elimination of prayer in schools, abortion, perversion of the sanctity of marriage, recent elections in ny, nj and va., destruction of the family, transgenderism, I could go on and on. These are all signs of rot.
The legislative branch put term limits on the Executive and shielded themselves from the same restraint.
A disruption in the co equal balance of power. Yes, repeal the 17th,
The filibuster should be retained for legislation as it provides a brake on both sides. A clear CR contains no new legislation.
The Democratic-Socialists have taken over the Democrat Party. Any Democrat who does not tow the line will be primaried and defeated by their enthusiastic get-out-the-vote organization. They sent 5000 people going door-to-door in Brooklyn and got a communist elected with a majority. Joe 6-pack Democrat doesn’t typically show up for primaries.
If Thune can’t come up with the votes in the Senate, eventually President Trump, the deal maker and pragmatist, will toss the Democrats a small bone … and he will live to regret it.
I’ve said it before: give Puerto Rico the independence it wants, divorce Hawaii, they will never feel enough pain to support a conservative addenda, and reduce DC to one zip code, give the rest back to MD. MD is desperate for money because they’ve decided to embrace one party governance and will probably never change.
YES…. The House does not have the filibuster rule why should the Senate?
No matter what one say….
THE DEMS WHEN THEY GET BACK INTO POWER WILL ELIMINATED THE FILIBUSTER!
SD, other than calling, texting, etc, what can WTP do to get these b@$%@#ds to do this?
The question is do you let that genie out of the bottle or not. Because you know the other side will when they get the chance
The question is really whether or not a stupid precedent should be continued. The silent filibuster is nothing other than a way to stop debate and for a minority party to obstruct the efforts of the majority party.
It’s really just a “heckler’s veto” cast in stone.
There is NO Bottle and there is NO Genie except in the minds of Congress and other deluded fools using it as an excuse for inaction.
Senate Republicans must end the filibuster now because
Senate Democrats once in power plan to end the filibuster.
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Senate Republicans must end the filibuster and
Open the Government.
Senate Republican Leadership John Thune is worthless.