After meeting with Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy on the sidelines of the United Nations General Assembly, President Trump sends a message to both Ukraine and Russia:
(Via Truth Social) – “After getting to know and fully understand the Ukraine/Russia Military and Economic situation and, after seeing the Economic trouble it is causing Russia, I think Ukraine, with the support of the European Union, is in a position to fight and WIN all of Ukraine back in its original form. With time, patience, and the financial support of Europe and, in particular, NATO, the original Borders from where this War started, is very much an option. Why not?
Russia has been fighting aimlessly for three and a half years a War that should have taken a Real Military Power less than a week to win. This is not distinguishing Russia. In fact, it is very much making them look like “a paper tiger.” When the people living in Moscow, and all of the Great Cities, Towns, and Districts all throughout Russia, find out what is really going on with this War, the fact that it’s almost impossible for them to get Gasoline through the long lines that are being formed, and all of the other things that are taking place in their War Economy, where most of their money is being spent on fighting Ukraine, which has Great Spirit, and only getting better, Ukraine would be able to take back their Country in its original form and, who knows, maybe even go further than that! Putin and Russia are in BIG Economic trouble, and this is the time for Ukraine to act.
In any event, I wish both Countries well. We will continue to supply weapons to NATO for NATO to do what they want with them. Good luck to all!”
DONALD J. TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA


Good luck!
And good riddance.
… to bad rubbish
That is classic.
President Trump just washed his hands and told them play stupid games win stupid prizes.
No, he didn’t, not when the U.S. is still selling arms to the EU.
This isn’t 8D chess. This is going back on a campaign promise.
Exactly. Continuing to supply weapons to NATO is not remaining neutral. It makes us a party on the side of NATO/Ukraine and is a massive risk to the US.
Western Politicians are controlled by globalist bankers/WEF, who are controlled by China. Who will benefit the most when the Ukraine war becomes WW3?
China.
Even Worse as the USA also pays into NATO, in essence Buying the USA weapons along with the EU.
This war would end within 2 weeks If the USA pulled it’s $upport, including the satellite intelligence, and targeting into Russia.
Ukraine is the Money Laundry for the O’biden democRats and Grahmnesty rinoRat NeoCons.
President Trump make America 1st and tell the EU Pedo ProgreSSives to go to hell and leave the no longer useful NATO.
We have a Civil War commencing in this country and millions of Illegals taking up Residence. ENOUGH!!!
Right. Tell NATO in private that if the war isn’t over in 10 days you will leave the alliance – and won’t defend Europe during the 1-year waiting period before we’re out. Watch it end immediately.
Is Putin a good guy? No. Is NATO an alliance we should be in? Also no. We can defend ourselves.
…which they are paying for with our money!
NATO is buying our weapons with our money? Wut?
We are 60%+ of NATO!
Exactly!
Suck it up
Still better than Biden and the Dems, that helped get the war started.
Not really going back on a campaign promise. DJT did get some cease fires and get both sides to the table. He did his best, but at this point, Biden, Nuland, Powers, the EU and other Deep State actors have had enough time to undermine his every effort.
He’s putting America first, which IS keeping his promises.
So, “Who???” is The President ??? Victoria nuland ??? Commander in Chiefus ??? Miley Cyrus ???
One Presidential Order Removes All US Military Intel and A$$itance to Ukraine.
Zelensky flees to Somewhere where his Money is available. Ukraine electes a new president, and Peace with Russia is a given. This is a Slavic Civil War between the same tribe.
Exactly…after 3.5 yrs of war sooo many ppl still do not get it….sick of it….
All he had to do is cut off the funds. Do that, and the war ends, Z is either Mussolini’d or he finds asylum in some s—hole country, Ukraine gets a new President, signs a treaty with Russia, and everyone is happy except the warmonger globalists.
Putting America first also includes not arming our frenemies in the EU and NATO – and cutting off any chance of direct U.S. involvement. As it is, the war continues, we are still a party to the war, although not direct combatants (yet), and the risk of direct U.S. involvement continues.
He has handled this poorly and not at all in a manner consistent with his 2024 campaign. It’s hard to conclude that he hasn’t been co-opted by the neocons. I blame Susie Wiles more than anyone.
If he cuts off the money, he will be blamed for Ukraine losing the war. He wants to avoid that, thus his “sell weapons to NATO” ploy.
Doesn’t CONgress have some input on “foreign aid?”
President Trump doesn’t exactly have a friendly CONgress does he?
Wonder why?
Maybe 10% off the top off “foreign aid” for the big guys in CONgress?
Selling?
Just how much has this nonsense cost the American tax payers?
You can not simply deal in absolutes, he gave them all, Putin included an off ramp and they all EU, Ukraine and yes Putin just kept pushing wanting just a little more.
Words matter and he did not say he would give aide to anyone what he said was fine you idiots dont care about your people or your land Im done with you and oh by the way we will make money off of you all.
We are selling weapons to NATO, not the EU.
We pay something like 60% of the NATO budget. So the money we pay NATO pays for these weapons. In the end, we will still be paying for this war.
Please explain how President Trump is going back on his campaign promise? I heard him say he was going to end the war in Ukraine. Is this not a way to end the war? There are forces he cannot control. The one thing he can control is to walk away. I think it is very clear the forces want President Trump tied up with endless wars. He is not playing.
Walking away with the EU on the ropes, now it seems as if Russia is hurting also. Who is going to keep this going? Selling weapons is not an act of war. If that was the case there would be wars everywhere, sorry I digress.
We pay the bulk of NATO. Now Trump says we will just sell arms to NATO to do what they want. So the US taxpayers are paying for the weapons of NATO so the Defense contractors and politicians/lobbyists continue to enrich themselves. WW3
I am not reading it that way. I see it as Trump telling Putin to stop sending drones over Poland and (in the future) other NATO countries.
it was not Russians drones….
Thanks for the update – I was thinking there had been airspace incursions by the Russians.
Brilliantly played Mr President. They’ve been feeding you bullshit, and you are going to make them eat it.
Yes. America first. We have enough problems to deal with at home. I don’t think either side wants to end the fighting and until such time as the two “leaders” are thrown out by their own people, nothing will end.
“Let them fight it out” I’m fine with that. The U.S.A being less involved is what I’d like to see. Ukraine regaining territory? That’s not on my bingo card. I’m not sure who’s in his ear….
Think President Trump was humoring the NATO/Ukraine war mongers.
A serious disrespect to Putin.
Putin has been excessively disrespectful to Trump and the US. Listen to his speech yesterday or the day before
no he hasn’t, but for once i agree with your ilk – what do i care if putin feels “disrespected”?
once again, its NOT MY PROBLEM. NOT MY LEADER. NOT MY COUNTRY.
My ilk? Bud I’ve been a Trump supporter since day 1. I’m not pro Ukraine and definitely not pro Russia. I’m pro reality Putin has deliberately escalated
Ilk? lol.
wrong
I read it as a “dare”. “Your os tuff I dare you to actually do what you said you will do”
I’m ok with Putin being disrespected. Trump tried to help him and be fair to him. Putin snubbed Trump, and apparently thinks he’s got Ukraine in the bag.
Zelenskyy is, as we say down South, too big for his britches. So is Putin.
Putin is a murderous, narcissistic, ex Commie secret policeman. Not sure why he had so many sympathizers on here.
I’m a sympathizer of Putin because I trust him more than 95% of the American government and our “government” has given me plenty of reasons to feel that way. Being the biggest warmonger on the planet the last 70 years is more than enough reason to hang most of them. That warmongering is the opposite of what the Founding Fathers intended.
I don’t sympathise with him, but I do respect him far more than I did Ol’ Joe, the Democrats and RINOs.
Putin seems to be on the side of his own country.
Wish I could say the same for those folks listed above.
seems to me the purpose of President Trump’s message is to administer a healthy dose of reverse psychology aimed directly at putin
a psychological negotiating tactic, so to speak
I’m confused. When he says we will continue to supply weapons for NATO to do whatever NATO wants–what does that mean? Is that any different than what has already been happening? Hasn’t NATO been helping the Ukraine obtain US weapons all along?
I think PDJT means that NATO will continue to buy weapons from US.
US will gladly sell those weapons to NATO knowing there are bound for Ukraine.
Knowing that the Euro trash are on the brink of no mo money, In god we trust all others pay cash.
And that definitely makes this “Trump’s war.” It’s no longer “Biden’s war.”
No, President Trump just washed our hands of it. He tried to make peace, both sides have declined. Business is business…
This is NOT what I voted for. I will allow that PDJT likely has learned something critical that he hasn’t yet revealed that justifies his public reversal of policy towards Ukraine. IMHO Putin did not do himself any favors by recent offensive actions that do not look like him trying to work towards peace.
But PDJT has decided to remove himself from being used as leverage by either side since he stated he will sell weapons to NATO rather than to Ukraine.
Not What I voted For either. Voted 3X for Trump. He does many great & good things, but his Ukraine Support is infuriating to me.
I think it’s not so much support as it is humoring a crazy person, while slowly backing away…
So i assume that we agree… 😉
I wouldn’t agree that Trump has “washed his hands” of the war. He knows that NATO will forward some or all of those weapons to Ukraine.
Doesn’t our legal system tend to incriminate those who knew that a person was going to commit a crime but did nothing to prevent it? We accuse many globalist elites and of putting one or more layers of intermediates between themselves and those who commit huge crimes to further the globalists’ interests. Our VSG POTUS is seemingly doing just that…
“Seemingly.”
With VSGPDJT, things are not always as they appear on the surface…
Wiley, he is😉.
Bingo.
You astutely spotted my allusion ………
No forces no money, pay to play. ” Ukraine may well be Russian again” Donald Trump 5 monthes ago.
You sound like a democrat, get a grip
No, I don’t think so.
Wait and see…
some are bound for ukraine, 50% ??? the black market …
while Euro population watch their rulers care more about Z”sky than own people
We pay for 60% of the NATO budget. If we’re selling them, then U.S. taxpayers are paying to make the weapons, then again to buy them as a member of NATO. Not exactly the art of the deal.
Yep.
He has offered to SELL, not GIVE weapons to NATO.
NATO countries have their own issues, like economic issues, civil unrest issues, etc.
Do you think that they will willingly foot the bill for Ukraine, and more, willingly send their OWN people to fight for Ukraine, against Russia, when they know their Big Brother, the USA, will be sitting this one out?
And will Russia be willing to go on an all out war with NATO, even if the USA declines the invitation?
I think VSGPDJT is using Cloward and Piven against the Globalist-Left.
Make their controlled governments fall because of the stress of their own people rebelling against the added burden of war, both in economic pressure and sending their own sons to fight for a corrupt regime.
The Lord may be using President Trump to free the oppressed peoples of the West from the yoke of Satanic/Globalist/Leftists.
No. It’s different. The US was directly supplying aid to Ukraine at our cost. Now it will sell equipment’ supplies etc to NATO. Sell…not give. NATO can do what it wants with it once they pay for it.
Will we still play any advisor or intel support? Trump doesn’t say if anything changes there. He seems to indicate he won’t put severe sanctions on Russia unless Europe does too.
I think he is sending a message to Russia here that it is time to wrap it up.
Win win!
Let’s do some
Math for our liberal trolls.
disclaimer: these are made up numbers to make a point and ease of adding….
Before this announcement, we, the taxpayers were buying a group of missiles for $200 million and giving them to Ukraine — a $200 million loss
Now, the EU is sending us $200 million for a group of missiles — a $200 million gain or….
A $400 million swing in our favor.
Correction: NATO is now sending Us the “200 million”….. How much of the NATO budget does the US pay for???
Answer and Recalculate, please.
Still the same plus, we sent $200 to Ukraine AND $200 to NATO in your example, $400 loss.
Now, we don’t send $200 to Ukraine, but send $200 to NATO and get it back, net $0……
Still +$400 for us
Recalculation done!
There’s no “nato budget” the Europeans are buying the weapons from the us
Not only do taxpayers pay for the weapons to be made, we are paying a lot of our taxpayer’s money to NATO. I think unacceptable for taxpayers to double fund this war and more when American gets nothing out of it. I love PDJT and it is hard to hear this stance that now America isn’t being ripped off.
This may be President Trump’s way of getting us out of NATO, or at least setting a precedent that NATO is not a suicide pact.
Thank you for your comment!
Ask yourself why are we now “selling” the weapons to NATO instead of the EU? Think about it for a few minutes! LOL
Yep.
Yes but he is reiterating that the United States of America is not and will not supply arms directly to Zelenskyy/Ukraine any longer. Interesting was gamesmanship. Putin knows what it means…
See my comment below. I think what he is saying is we will SELL to NATO countries, and GIVE to NATO. So, what we have been providing to Ukraine directly will now be provided to NATO, and will be counted as part of our annual NATO contribution. No more free stuff.
it means that NATO can and will drag us back in anyway, short of us severing ties for real.
and we still feed one side intel and targeting info.
which makes us a co-belligerent, still.
He means they now have to BUY them.. They are broke.
Which effectively cuts off the pipeline of weapons to Ukraine, without fighting Congress about it.
The difference is that the US isn’t funding those weapons. EU is buying them from us.
NATO membership requires a percentage of GDP which can be paid in cash or other forms. Trump seems to be calling the bluff & starving out the EU grifting clowns that understand cash is much easier/fungible to grift than are the weapons contributed.
“…for NATO to do what they want with them.” What does selling to NATO actually look like? And how does NATO as an alliance decide what to do with weapons? Or rather is it Trump saying we are selling weapons to individual NATO members? And then, is it NATO members themselves rather than the alliance deciding on selling weapons to Ukraine even if that puts the entire alliance at risk? And if it is the NATO members making individual decisions to supply Ukraine, are they not then legitimate targets for Russia? And if they are targeted by Russia, what do we do? Would that meet the Article 5 conditions? Too many generalizations in Trump’s statement to be meaningful.
Unfortunately, it looks as if the smackdown in the Oval era is over….
Much of PDJT’s comments today will only embolden the Little Twerp.
Try to look past the little twerp to the international criminals who use Ukraine as a money laundry. The twerp will do what they tell him to do and they aren’t yet done with the arrangement.
if we were truly disengaging, i could care less whether Z is “emboldened” or not.
the problem is that this remains disingenuous. we are NOT disengaging: we are still in NATO. we are still shouting about who the bad guy is. we are still spending money on it. we are still providing intel and targeting info. we are still selling weapons and depleting our arsenal. we are still threatening all of russias friends and economic partners.
Are you sure or are you speculating?
Both Putin and Zelensky are 5’7″ …
is VSGPDJT…still 6’3″ ..?????? seen to me shorter since mid of June…
Never, ever underestimate President Trump. To do so in your own folly.
Which Little Twerp? Z ? Or P?
PDJT wrote that ?
If he believes the Nazis have the ability to continue when they have old ass people on the ground fighting can win anything is amazing.
If the handcuffs have been taken off of Russia just watch how quick things escalate
If he wrote that, then it shows his advisors are leading him down the road of failure.
don’t gaslight us and tell me he has no idea. who is pretending not to know things?
You think he would make those statements in front of the world knowing they are false? Maybe?
What handcuffs?
So, let World War 3 begin!
However … I think that Russia is still quite immune to even this provocation.
And, as “utterly uncharacteristic” as this latest statement is, I begin to wonder about a Truth Social version of “the autopen.”
What did he say that was a provocation? Stop reflexively reacting to this.
He didn’t actually change any policy he’s baiting Putin to either come to negotiate for real. Or make a mistake domestically that crashes RU. This is Trumps superpower.
Putin comes to the table the rhetoric tamps down. Or Putin overextends because he’s paranoid causes division within his inner circle or calls up a draft in Moscow which likely would push the RU population over the edge
Delusionary on Russia, imo. poking the Russian Bear hasn’t been a succesful action historically. The USA population is much more closer to CW than Russia’s population.
This comes after Putins repeated escalations of the conflict, threats towards nato, and essentially very disrespectful comments on the us of the past few days.
When a member of a superpower like Russia doesn’t respect another superpower (US) bad things can happen. They don’t have to agree but they have to respect the other. Putin has been very disrespectful towards not only the western weenies but to the US
You’re living in a fantasy world. Every drone that explodes inside Russia increases Putin’s support. Putin is the only one who holds any cards in this whole war. Trump just realized that. And Russia has been fighting with one hand tied behind its back, because Putin is not looking to start WW3. The war will end when Putin decides it will end, and not a moment sooner. Trump never had any superpowers in this war, except to cut off the funding. And he didn’t do it.
Putin is the only one who holds any cards in this whole war.
True. Contrary to what people believe, the U.S. has no leverage over Russia.
I think the Globalist-Left, who are behind the Ukraine war, and Russia, have had their bluffs called.
To NATO, instrument of the Globalist-Left:
you want a war, sure, go ahead.
We’ll even make money from your decision, by SELLING you weapons.
No more gifts to Ukraine, for them to sell or use, courtesy of the American taxpayer.
Oh yeah, and we are sitting this one out.
None of our soldiers will be attending your war, thanks anyhow.
So, that means that NATO has to not only foot the bill monetarily, but has to supply their OWN citizens for cannon fodder, for good ol’ Uncle Z.
Actual European citizens are already demonstrating against Globalist-Left policies.
What will they do if their rulers ship their sons over to come back in body bags?
If their taxes are increased to pay for Uncle Z’s war?
This may be a Cloward/Piven moment against the Globalist-Left.
And Mr. Putin may think twice before risking a war against NATO, even if the USA is not on the dance card.
I think VSGPDJT is inviting both sides to FAFO.
We’ll just sit on the sidelines for this one.
Would you have him fully join the fight to defeat Russia to end this war? Or are you one of the ones who would like to see Putin win, so would in theory like Trump to help Putin roll over the rest of whatever parts of Ukraine Putin wants? He has tried negotiation of peace.
Still a proxy war, but I hope that means none of our young men will get deployed there for now. Unfortunately, if we do not leave NATO, and it’s starting to sound like we won’t, the next president if Democrat or RINO will gladly pull us into WWIII.
It’s Europe’s back yard. America is an ocean away so none of our business. We will sell weapons to NATO countries and they can use them, store them, or give them to Ukraine, whatever. Oh, and any that we GIVE to NATO for use in Ukraine will now count toward our annual contribution to NATO. Tricky.
15 miles from Siberia to Alaska is not an “Ocean Away”, Russian hypersonic missilles over “The Top” (North Pole) will Ruin your/Our days ……. forever.
If the Ukraine scenario was reversed with Chinese Communists supplying Mexican Cartels to attack the USA, What would our response be ??? No need to, Trump declared them Terrorists and authorized US military action against them.
By the “Rules” of War, Russia could be militarily attacking the USA and NATO. Which would be WW3. but no worries because Putin seems to be the Adult in the room.
Reminds me of my younger days. Used to hang out in this real dive of a bar. Fights would break out all the time. At first, as drinkers do we would all get involved and try to break it up usually to no avail as the combatants wouldn’t listen and keep going back at it. One of the old timers finally said to us just let’em fight. They’ll eventually get tired. Damn!!!! It worked.
Usually whatI saw was the guy that tried to break upthe fight got walloped the hardest.
Was that you who hit me ? I thought you looked familiar.
I doubt Ukraine will gain back all the territory it wants. It’s also kind of sleazy for our country to be knee deep in the beginning of why this started and then simply walk away as though it’s not our problem. If you helped instigate it(not Trump) then at least help end it and ensure we don’t get involved in these types of wars again.
I’m absolutely sick of America, EU, NATO being blamed for instigating this war. Putin invaded Ukraine. Period. Full stop. Anyone who blames America is saying that Putin is such a delicate little flower that merely looking at him wrong, or playing a child’s game of “I’m not touching you,” sets off his little girly feelings and he can’t be held responsible for any of his subsequent behavior. “I’m not touching you” gets little brother a machete to the neck and it’s his own fault? BS
The usa and nato started the war in 2014 and violated the peace treaties known as Minsk. The dumbasses in the state department and in brussels started the war that has been ongoing since 2014. Now they want another useless ceasefire and eventual Russian surrender which isn’t going to happen. This peace crap people talk about is really asking for russian surrender and a ceasefire to realm the ukrainian army like before. It is the dumbest plan.
Not only did the USA/NATO incite this with the Maidan Revolution in 2014, but the Biden CIA instigated it directly in 2021-2022.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/03/21/admission-from-zelenskyy-highlights-how-biden-administration-wanted-to-provoke-russia-to-invade-ukraine/
This war will become nuclear. It has to. The Chinese manipulate the WEF’s greed to do their bidding, and will attempt to destroy the West and Russia through nuclear war. The only questions are 1.) When? and 2.) Will Trump be able stay out of it?
Either way, a nuclear winter will directly impact the US, whether we are involved in the war or not.
Victoria Nuland, John McShame, and George Soros conducted the Color revolution that started it all. If you want to go fight for the Cia Zelensky, go ahead, Ukraine is using 60 year olds so you’ll probably qualify. Just don’t let that guy convicted today of the 2nd Trump assination attempt recruit you for Ukraine. He is a proud american recruiting and fighting for the Ukrainian Cia biolabs.
The USA did NOT start the war.
The USA was used by the Globalist-Left, who OWN politicians in the USA, to start this war.
The Globalist-Left is the enemy of all the peoples of all the nations of the world.
The Globalist-Left is controlled by Satan.
The USA is not sleazy.
The USA doesn’t have the obligation to end this war, even if it could.
I believe President Trump sees that our treaty with NATO is at best, no longer necessary, and at worst, a suicide pact.
If he cannot end it (and I wonder if that requires Congressional approval?) then perhaps he can gut it as much as possible and set a precedent that the USA can chose to decline NATO’s invitation to wars that go against our interests.
NATO: we will destroy Russia!
EU: yea and we will keep buying Russian Oil too!
FUBAR, all of it. There is nothing left to respect out of this clown show on all sides.
This will all go on and on until all which remains are “the wives, sons and the daughters”.
He is going to arm Ukraine which means the US is clearly choosing to support Ukraine going forward. If those weapons are used on Russian soil that makes us a legitimate target.
And if the EU were to get their way, Russia would be broken up, their natural resources stolen, and then their borders opened wide so that the Russian people can be erased like is currently happening to the Spanish, French, English, Swedish, German, etc.
We have no business arming Ukraine. If you are going to wash your hands than stop arming WWIII.
No he’s arming Europe
Read his statement. “NATO.” NATO arms Ukraine. Same difference. Sheesh.
He’s not arming Ukraine. He is selling arms to NATO. What they do with them is their decision. They pledge 5% each. Pledged, but they are broke, how are they going to do that?
The President has not changed his position. Neither side will stop. He tried. So be it.
I am just sorry for the innocent people in these countries. They are always the ones that pay the highest price for deeds of evil people.
Yep.
President Trump said he will SELL weapons to NATO nations, what they do with them is their business.
But, if the NATO nations don’t have money for those weapons, oh well.
“In God we trust.
All others pay cash.”
Bottom line: MAGA is living rent free and better yet PAYED by EVERY nation leader
This is puzzling to say the least. This tells me he is not getting the Ukraine truth. Seems like a slap to. Putin. I don’t agree with this.
Putin very much deserves a slap he’s been deliberately disrespectful towards the us and Trump. This is essentially to tell Putin to actually commit to negotiating for real
He can’t tell Putin anything, and it will have zero effect on what the Russians do. Putin will end the war when Putin decides to end the war. If we hadn’t started the war against Russia 11 years ago, we wouldn’t be in this position.
He isn’t getting the truth about Ukraine at all.
No, he isn’t.
Goodness, why do I feel like this is a Monty Python sketch of “The Argument Clinic”?
I think he IS getting the real truth, but is selling the “truth” he has been officially given, for his own negotiating purposes.
That’s it. I’ve given up trying to figure out how this could make sense.
What pisses me off is working so hard to get away from the buzzjunkie existence of alcohol and pills and the general doper lifestyle while trying to lift others up out of the same quagmire by convincing them they too don’t have to live like that anymore, only to be destroyed by cocaine psychosis that is so bad that it will kill us all the way from Europistan.
Don’t forget to take your medicine
You might’ve missed a dose of your own m8..
Trust in the Lord.
“My thoughts are not your thoughts.
My ways are higher than your ways.”
Things are going to get screwier from here on out.
Get right with God, give Him the keys to the car, and go where He takes you.
In the end, it will be a cooler ride, and a more beautiful home, than you can ever imagine…
SEP 23 2025
“I am very grateful to Trump. I cannot share details now.
Trump has very important information about the situation on the front” – Zelensky
“Trump is the one who can fundamentally change everything.
He trusts me more than Putin,” he added.
“Trump realized that Putin shares information that is far from the truth about what is happening on the battlefield.
Today’s meeting was very good… Probably the most substantive.”
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“Trump can be a game changer for Ukraine”
— Zelensky
( 32 sec video )
https://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1970583436168712498
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Lets you and him fight !
Rodney Dangerfield joke: “I told my psychiatrist about pssible suicide. He made me pay in advance…
OH, by the way, we will sell to NATO for cash on the barrelhead (not to Ukraine buying on credit payment in the future)
This is sickening.
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SEP 23 2025
twitter Zelensky
I held a meeting with U.S. Special Presidential Envoy, @generalkellogg.
I briefed him on the situation at the front and the results of the counteroffensive operation near Dobropillia and Pokrovsk.
We also touched on the development of cooperation between Ukraine and the United States, including mutually beneficial agreements on drones and on the procurement of American weapons that Ukraine has proposed to the United States.
I am grateful to Keith Kellogg for his support and assistance, and to U.S. President Donald Trump for his efforts to bring the war to an end and stop the killings.
https://x.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1970303107310534671
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Keith Kellogg: Putin will fold in a game of nuclear poker
( 10 min 30 )
Security guarantees? Is that US troops on the ground?
Called everyones bluff. Pulled UN over his knee. Embarrassed China. Been an interesting day and more posts likely. 😉
“Russia has been fighting aimlessly for three and a half years a War that should have taken a Real Military Power less than a week to win.”
Nonsense.
Russia hasn’t even taken the gloves off in this war.
Russia never was fighting just “Ukraine.” If they were they would have won the war in three days.
Russia has been fighting the USA and all of NATO all of this time and still winning.
This is the US and globalists proxy war.
Lame excuse. If Russia was actually fighting NATO you’d know. Russia uses terms diplomatically and publicly to excuse short comings
Exactly. Trump is getting really bad information. The neocons have co-opted him.
lol
I am horrified if this is really what people around President Trump are telling him and that he is echoing their views.
Can he not see how President Putin has been progressing slowly but deliberately not wanting to sacrifice huge numbers of his soldiers? I notice that he has not bragged about victories and how many Ukrainians they have killed which is unlike what one would expect if he were a dictator with ambitions to set up a new Russian empire. Notice too that it has been territories in Ukraine that are predominantly Russian speaking and that were poorly treated by President Zelensky despite promises he made them of peace before he was elected. He of all leaders seems most concerned about feathering his own nest and with least concern for his soldiers.
It really is sickening.
This is a fundamental misunderstanding of Russia’s war-making capabilities. It is no paper tiger. It could obliterate Ukraine tomorrow if it wished to and force Kiev to sue for peace. Even without nukes. Just by doing what the US and all serious war-makers have done in history to win wars: destroy the entire infrastructure of an enemy.
Russia has fought with gloves on. A Marques of Queensbury rules war, leaving Ukrainian cities and infrastructure large intact. Ukrainian life hasn’t been made uncomfortable and dangerous enough to sue for peace against a much more powerful foe.
Whatever war-making capacity Ukraine has is gone on its own. Entirely reliant on the West, the actual provocateurs in the conflict.
The question then becomes for Trump, if Russia escalates and decides to prove it is no paper tiger and takes off the gloves what will Trump and the US under his leadership do about it?
If he’s telegraphing he’s going to do his best Nimarata Randhawa War Pig imitation he’s going to see his base collapse and walk away from a war monger they didn’t elect.
I didn’t vote for Nikki Haley foreign policy. Nor did most of his base. Can’t stab your voters in the back and ask them to send their sons and daughters into a meat grinder you promised you wouldn’t do.
Putin will react. He will escalate. What will Trump do about it when Kiev is bombed like London in the Blitz and the lights go out in the entire nation where stone age living returns? Will Trump let Ukrainians sue for peace with nonintervention? Even if NATO allies like Germany, France and, Poland engage and lose forces?
If Trump plans on sitting tight no matter what NATO does and Putin lets his tiger off the leash it could bring the war to a rapid end. But if Trump helps NATO’s war after Putin hits civilians – like winners of wars must do – then folks, we have Nikki Haley in the White House. And that’s the godawful truth.
Russia has better nuclear weapons than us. Way better. They also have the ability to be self-sufficient and their people share a culture and history unlike the US.
ATTENTION WARMONGERS:
Send your own sons to die in WW3.
My son isn’t going to die for your warped causes and proxy wars.
SEP 23 2025
TRUMP Using BIDEN’s Playbook in UKRAINE
( 56 min )
To think ‘Biden’ had a playbook is pathetic, he was asleep
President Trump is doing what MacGregor says he should be doing., he is just not using the words MacGregor thinks he should use. MacGregor is the one living in 1991. There is no buyer’s remorse from this MAGA believer. MacGregor can go join up with Musk. See you later jack
Who’s Macgregor getting paid by? Don’t trust him at all.
I like many here listening to him intently during the Biden years. Then noticed he never called Russia out for anything, never questioned Russias number, and now has the nerve to suggest Trump and Witkoff are involved in a money laundering scheme.
He, Daniel Davis, Jeff sachs are all charlatans.
Surely Trump still believes Zelenskyy doesn’t hold any cards. I gotta believe Trump really understands Ukraine will never defeat Russia and will not retake the territory Russia has reclaimed.
By stating any “Real Military Power could have finished this in a week” perhaps this is goad Russia’s Putin to go ahead and finish this up, if you can?
I suppose we will find out exactly what this means over the next couple of days. In the mean time, a few questions:
When he says “We will continue to supply weapons to NATO for NATO to do what they want with them“, who will be paying for those? Will the U.S. just be giving them to NATO, or will NATO be buying them from the U.S.? And if NATO is buying them, whose money will they use – our money or money from the other NATO countries?
Will the U.S. continue to give money directly to Ukraine? For example, what about all the billions we have been giving to pay for their civilian government operations, salaries and pensions? Or is all that being terminated as of right now?
The President’s message might mean we are walking away or it might just be a big stick prod to get the peace process going again and if successful then we don’t walk away.
WEAPONS R Us…..🍿🍿🍿
Hope they pass the credit checks…..😬
Good luck, lads !
“We will continue to supply weapons to NATO for NATO to do what they want with them.”
What does he mean, “they”? Did the U.S. finally pull out of NATO?
He might as well have loaded the gun, forced it against Zelensky head and made Europe watch the inevitable result.
Reminds me of the 1960’s when the whole world went crazy.
Yup.
It actually stayed crazy, we, just like the proverbial frog in the gradually heated pot of water, had our view of craziness change.
It was an Overton window kinda thing.
PDJT…”return the original Borders from where this War started, is very much an option. Why not?”
…because the area taken by Russian Forces is the Donetsk and Luhansk regions which is 95% Russian and had declared independence from Ukraine in 2014 after Victoria Nuland’s coup which overthrew the legitimate President of Ukraine. In fact, almost 30% of the Ukrainian Army resigned to form the military of Donetsk and Lugansk which has been fighting Ukraine for over ten years. That’s why not!
“… Ukraine, with the support of the European Union, is in a position to fight and think Ukraine, with the support of the European Union, is in a position to fight and WIN all of Ukraine back in its original form.”
The President has transformed hyperbole into fantasy.
Maybe purposely – to rile up Putin to put an end to this war – one way or another.
Sick of this stupid war……..not happy with PT on this one………..would like to see us get totally out of it …no money no weapons no boots on ground…
i disagree on the paper tiger bit and that the Z man can take back anything………..
I`m just thru giving a damn at all about Ukraine…………………….
Feel same…
seems like he’s taunting Putin to rake the gloves off
There ate no good guys in this war. A war between two corrupt tyrants. We should not give another dime to Ukraine or NATO to continue feeding this meat grinder.
On top of the Kermlin’s response yesterday, this has to be a multifacetted psyop.
Watch for action, and the minute details of the words.
???
President Trump starts off his post by saying I now fully understand. He didn’t understand before? This is just a criticism and nothing more but either he was fed a bunch of baloney or it’s something else.
So now we are going to be involved like before by sending weapons to NATO . I hope there will be no military sent there.
Read the post imagining that Trump has his tongue in his cheek, as he types, and occasionally rolling his eyes, then it makes sense. He’s forcing Ukraine and their Euro-globalist backers into a course of action that will be eventually disastrous for both parties, whilst making himself immune from any backlash, or DS coup operation, when the near inevitable collapse occurs.
Gorbachev did exactly the same with the Generals and the Afghan War, listened to all their requests, heard all the ‘we can win of only’ briefings and gave them everything they wanted, and then some. After the failure of the subsequent military operations he’d effectively removed any opponents to his withdrawal plan.
Ukraine and Europe now have to seriously escalate the war, if it is to show any serious signs of achieving a credible military solution, which will be matched and exceeded by the Russians. The Russians now though have to accelerate their military operation, lest they loose credibility, and both these horns effectively skewer the DS plans for their long-term money laundering and embezzlement schemes focused on Ukraine.
As I said, another bravura performance from President Zugswang.
He used the word “fully” – tells you all you need to know. Gives him an excuse to push Putin to get this over with.
Ukraine is not regaining anything!
In a perfect world we get out of NATO. Kick them out of NYC. Build a reservation resort with gambling. It’s outlived its purpose. We stop all aid to the cross dressing d*c* piano player & his see eye a cohorts as their silo continues thwarting peace. End this stupid proxy war between us and Russia. Let Euro weenies enlist their own soldiers to fight. Hopefully, it’s a negotiation tactic with both Russia & Ukraine. I’ve learned to pay attention to the Professor’s pictures. They are coded & significant.
It isn’t that hard to understand the point. He tried negotiating a settlement, and Europe and Ukraine didn’t want it. Z says no to swapping territory for peace. Russia says it’s keeping what it took. EU is “horrified” but has no skin in the game.
Essentially this means if you won’t listen to reason, then go fight it out until the war knocks some sense into you. It’s put up or shut up time. If France and the UK want to defeat Russia, then go ahead. We will sell you weapons at a profit. If Russia wants a surrender, then force it if you can.
This is Trump’s walk away from the negotiating table gambit. He put the sticking points out for everyone to see, and says, if you won’t negotiate, fight it out. We will watch and sell stuff at a profit.
So we’re still going to supply Ukraine with American weapons and ammunition, through NATO, and CIA operatives are still going to run the war from a U.S. base in Germany, but good luck to Russia because we know you’re really in the right here.
This is deeply weird and it is not leadership. Leadership is to say, I’m the elected president and I’m going to take back control of America’s foreign policy, and we’re going to be friends with Russia, because that’s the only thing that makes geopolitical sense now. Thank you for your service, CIA, but I’ll take it from here.
wish VSGPDJT say that but since he is still not in full control we may never hear this orig .MAGA proclamation about foreign policies…….
Yup. And I think that’s what a lot of us were expecting earlier in the year. This is a 180-degree turnaround in the wrong direction.
Well, if it weren’t for a Congress lining their pockets and therefore feeling a need to tie the President’s hands, and what appears to be a corrupt, murderous and treasonous intelligence community, and the Satanic, Globalist-Left back of it all, I’d have to agree with you.
I have a contact in St. Petersburg, and he’s said nothing about shortages or difficulties for the average person living in Russia. I suspect Trump is being fed bad info here, unless he’s stretching the truth in order to needle Putin. Actually, the latter is maybe as bad: one thing I remember Jordan Peterson talking about is how dishonesty is deadly when you’re dealing with someone who’s paranoid. I’m not sure how paranoid Putin really is, but I think that is driving him to some degree. So I don’t see this post as being the right message to direct towards Russia.
Russia’s initial assault was not an all-out stab at the heart, as the west has been led to believe. I don’t put full faith in the likes of Douglas MacGregor, but I do think he’s right in saying that the invasion was a message to the west of “I’m not fooling around here.” His best troops and elite units weren’t the first in. Unfortunately, instead of coming to the bargaining table, the west just escalated the situation and left Putin with no reasonable option but to push forward – even as the going got progressively tougher.
The one good thing in this post is its signaling to the EU powers that if they want to “win” this fight, they’re going to be the ones doing it. That should have been the position from the start: we’ll stand behind our NATO obligations if things escalate outside of Ukraine, but this is Europe’s situation to deal with. What’s really sad is that Ukraine has already lost everything: if they could go back in time and give Russia everything taken in the initial invasion in exchange for peace, they’d have avoided half a million dead and millions more who’ve fled, and being hopelessly in debt to globalist interests. If I were running the show, my message would be “Hey Putin: what happens in Ukraine no longer concerns the US; hey EU, if usurping Ukraine is that important to you, do it with your own blood and treasure.”
I don’t think St. Petersburg or Moscow are feeling much of it. Putin does a good job keeping the cities blind to the reality
Why should we be chivvied into committing suicide because the NATO nations want to off themselves?
That certainly is out of left field.
That’s the point. This is directed at putin
Sundance
You have been inside Russia, and have told us here on Treehouse that the Russian People are largely unaffected in their day to day lives by what is going on in Ukraine.
You say the store shelve are full and they have food, and the necessities of life.
Trump here is saying the Russians are starting to feel the effects, with gas line etc.
Is this the new reality?
Does Ukraine have the manpower to field to take back the eastern regions from Russia?
I thought they had nearly depleted their military age men.
Russia may have the manpower to keep fighting for a while, but do they have the money or are are they really being depleted?
I believe you have better information in this than most sources.
What gives?
The information that makes it to President Trump is selectively filtered to support the aims of those keeping him in a bubble, namely one Susie Wiles. There are others, but she stands out if you do a deep dive.
Just sayin’, it’s possible everything reported by SD was true, but overall purchasing power of the “little people,” further affected by the war, doesn’t allow them to buy much of what may be available.
This is what sincere, honest and men of good character and judgement do. President Trump isn’t a bully, he isn’t some giant ego or a string man. He has met and negotiated with Putin and Z in earnest and good faith. He found that both of them to a certain degree are just yanking Trump’s chain. And Trump being a sincere man doesn’t like having his chain yanked. And he also lives by to mitti don’t make someone else’s foolish problems your own. Job well done Mr. President.
Ukraine is not regaining anything! The math is not there. There is zero replacement of Ukrainian fighters. This is another Vietnam and Somalia country
After getting to know and fully understand the Ukraine/Russia Military and Economic situation and, after seeing the Economic trouble it is causing Russia, I think Ukraine, with the support of the European Union, is in a position to fight and WIN all of Ukraine back in its original form. With time, patience, and the financial support of Europe and, in particular, NATO, the original Borders from where this War started, is very much an option. Why not? Russia has been fighting aimlessly for three and a half years a War that should have taken a Real Military Power less than a week to win. This is not distinguishing Russia. In fact, it is very much making them look like “a paper tiger.” When the people living in Moscow, and all of the Great Cities, Towns, and Districts all throughout Russia, find out what is really going on with this War, the fact that it’s almost impossible for them to get Gasoline through the long lines that are being formed, and all of the other things that are taking place in their War Economy, where most of their money is being spent on fighting Ukraine, which has Great Spirit, and only getting better, Ukraine would be able to take back their Country in its original form and, who knows, maybe even go further than that! Putin and Russia are in BIG Economic trouble, and this is the time for Ukraine to act. In any event, I wish both Countries well. We will continue to supply weapons to NATO for NATO to do what they want with them. Good luck to all!
DONALD J. TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
What you are describing, Mister President, is(!) “World War III.”
Our world has been through this twice before, and both times it began in much the same way. With hubris.
However: This is why I question “the autopen.” Because of “statements” like: “And, who knows, maybe even go further than that!”
Likewise: because “Russia is in BIG economic trouble,” the solution is “this is the time for Ukraine to act.”
In the next few days, I suppose that we will see whether or not the actual man is still in charge of “Truth Social” postings. Based on what I read here, I sincerely hope not.
I love the fact that President Trump is the GOAT of Non-Pretenders!
Selling weapons to NATO is a lot different than handing over $150 billion to Zelenskyy.
As long as there are no American boots on the ground I’m ok with this message.
I think that is more important to this story than one might think at first. NATO does not automatically equal Ukraine.
This puts the continuation of the war at NATO’s feet rather than Trump’s. IMHO that will be important in the near future.
Good point Sir.
Yeah. ‘paper tiger’…… that’s a good one. So, one has to read between the lines of rhetoric for truth nuggets.
One problem though, without the US one can argue there is no NATO
US is the backbone of NATO, it is the largest contributer in $$$ by far.
Further US is required to provide ISR, targetting, ground reconaissance to Ukraine.
So it’s either in or out, and right now its very much in as much as it was.
The “we sell weapons instead of giving it” is worth as much as a slight of hand of a cheap magician at a flea market.
Then again why Russia is continuing to play along the part of the US being a “neutral 3rd party negotiator” to the conflict is beyond me as well. Both sides are putting out some silly theatrics.
Also I am not sure why Trump would make a statement like this at this time.
Doesn’t it hurt his chances to win the noble peace price if he encourages Europe to continue to war with Russia? Better to get that peace price first and then escalate.
As to your last paragraph – That’s why I opined earlier that PDJT may have learned something (specific) that caused him to change his apparent strategy. I believe he always plays to win, so this Truth statement is public misdirection for what he’s actually planning / doing. I’m guessing we will find out sooner rather than later.
I wonder if President Trump is trying to goad Russia to the negotiation table?
Saying, “Whatever, guys.
We tried to make a deal with you both, neither of you wants to play, so the USA is out of it.
We are aligned with NATO, so we’ll sell them weapons for whatever reason they want.
But the USA is out.
Don’t expect us to fix this.”
So now Russia will be fighting a war with Ukraine and NATO, officially, instead of Ukraine with a few NATO troops and lots of NATO weapons.
Maybe President Trump wants the USA out of NATO entirely?
He seems to prefer treaties with individual nations, instead of coalitions of nations.
Europe must have been pressured to stop buying Russian oil – i do not know what pressure is significant to do that
otherwise this is just a rape America operation
If we are not GIVING weapons to Ukraine, but are SELLING them to NATO, and are NOT sending our troops to fight in this war that neither side seems inclined to stop, how are we getting raped?
Sometimes you have to recognize someone’s persistent desire to self destruct and let them have at it, rather than going down with them.
Don’t hug a suicide bomber while trying to talk him out of pressing the switch.
Russia has already stated multiple times, until there are elections in Ukieland, which Z will lose, and the legislature amends their “constitution” to allow for Russia to keep the territories that have come under Russian control, that are populated by people that are Russian, the treaty in not worth anything.
Yes. That would be very “Trumpian” if that’s his strategy.
So we can keep that as a good possibility.
Thanks for understanding what I was trying to say.
I appreciate it!
I really don’t think PDT gives a damm about receiving or being on the un-noble peace prize list.
Does anyone think the Nobel Peace Price has any value since the day it was awarded to Obama for being elected and no other achievement? It is no better than a child’s tee ball participation trophy.
No one even watches their award ceremonies anymore.
If Barry got this award then whatever. That says it all..
And NATO countries buy their weapons independently not as a group.
So will NATO be purchasing F-16’s, Tornadoes, or Rafales for Ukraine? Whose industry/economy will they help?
US defense contractors’ foreign military sales have always been profitable so IMHO that issue is somewhat of a wash.
PDJT pledged to end the Ukraine war in 24 hours when he was elected. So Military-Industrial Complex profits apparently weren’t as important with that pledge. But the situation has since changed – it has been especially dynamic since he was re-elected. So PDJT has adjusted his strategy as some other dynamic within the nature of the hostilities & both Russian and European politics & economics have changed.
cant beat someone you buy from unless you remanufacture it
he wants greenland
And why is NATO involved in a conflict with 2 Non NATO countries ?
NATO still (inappropriately) considers Russia to be the USSR. The USSR was the stated reason behind NATO’s formation.
Russia invaded Ukraine in Feb 2022 because NATO (led by the US) openly informed the world they fully intended to have Ukraine join them, thereby rejecting 25 years of American presidents assuring Russia that would not happen. But EU leaders have dug in and sworn to see Ukraine win the war against Russia, despite Trump’s appeals to end the killing.
Maybe he wants to let the EU make fools of themselves by going bankrupt buying American weapons just to have Russia destroy them in the Ukraine battle. Then again he does see Russia running out of money trying to continue the war. That was the major point in his truth tweet.
Maybe he’s playing both of them against time and money while America arms manufacturers prosper. It’s not what most of us voted for, but he’s running the show.
Perhaps PDJT has a brilliant plan. He has, for the most part, done well so far. I suppose we will see soon enough. However…
…Taking into consideration that Russia is in tight with the BRICS Nations, it seems that this could go all kinds of sideways.
I truly hope and pray that his plan does not backfire and wind us up in a situation none of us want to be.
Yes, I understand your concerns about the unknown possibilities, but they were probably thought about and ranked as to probability before developing a actionable strategy and tactical plan.
I think President Trump is pretty smart, way smarter than probably most of us in geopolitical and economic considerations. So I’m not too worried because he has a lot of resources he’s learned how to use to “read the tea leaves” as the saying goes.
Well, if we sell NATO our current weapons stock, will that make room for newer, “improved” (hate to use that term for weapons,) stock, that might, hopefully, be a deterrent to future enemies?
I am not up to date on weaponry, so this is an honest question.
If such is true, not saying it is right or wrong, but it is efficient.
We (U.S. Defense contractors) can always sell conventional weapons for $$$, as long as the DOD approves each sale. We don’t sell our most advanced tech, so we are not endangering ourselves by selling “yesterday’s” tech….
PS- the US has tech so far advanced that most of the population is unaware of it, although they’ve witnessed its power several times without knowing exactly what tech they had witnessed.
oil. from Russia because EU has no fuel
The United States funds 60%+ of NATO!
You answered the first question which came to my mind.
Always do reverse research -the number is 16%, her number is from some social media account. Reuters over seasic Sue.
Exactly! The exact % depends on who you ask. The Democrat news media says 16% while other sources online say 60% to 70% of NATO is paid by the United States. Much of the payments are “indirect” and not made public.
Nope- https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/us-contributes-16-nato-annual-budget-not-two-thirds-2024-05-31/
One of the points in this site is to be accurate – click the link from Reuters as the information is accurate. Not social media.
So Reuters is now the “go to” source? You realize that the entire British Army is barely 80,000 men and has more horses than tanks. Denmark, Norway and Finland maybe 40,000 to 60,000 each. Is that the NATO you’re talking about! The US military budget is $900 billion. The NATO budget is $3 billion. We gave Ukraine $300 billion so far according to President Trump.
Reuters fake news? That’s ridiculous.
You forgot the /s
Reuters is the same as CNN. Ask Grok.
Reuters is a questionable source. Need more that a media write up to support the information.
WHO PAYS MOST
When NATO has to pay, it will end next week. All hat and no cattle.
The unspoken part today to the NATO / EU / GLOBALIST cabal over there: “YOYO.” (You’re On Your Own.)
We’ll be glad to take your Euros while you fight the war that never should have started.