There is no Charlie Kirk equivalent on the left.
There is no leftist individual willing to enter the intellectual or philosophical gauntlet of debate and challenge a conservative audience to “come to the front of the line” and convince the audience of their viewpoint.
There is no person of leftist ideology capable of advocating their man-made construct against the natural laws that underpin the conservative worldview of a Charlie Kirk audience. Because the only place their ideology can survive is in an arena without challenge.
Consider the example of the ‘Law of the Farm’ vs. the ‘Law of the School’. Natural principles vs. those made by man.
A student can skip class, take few notes, pay only half attention, then stay up all night cramming for a test and manage a decent grade. It depends on the student’s goal: grades or learning.
The student can choose to manipulate the education, by avoiding the learning and capturing the grade.
This is possible in the ‘Law of the School’. However, a farmer cannot take short cuts. A farmer cannot avoid tending to the soil, preparing the seed, fertilizing and nurturing the crop, and still gain benefit of an abundant harvest.
The farmer must necessarily do all of the appropriate work in order to benefit from it. Such is the ‘Law of the Farm’, the natural law. This is the position from which Charlie Kirk effectively advanced his beliefs.
Stay elevated, and you will notice there is considerable panic visible amid the professional Marxists.
The comments and quick responsive appearance of Barack Obama; the jaw-agape leftist reactions to backlash upon Jimmy Kimmel; corporate media entities trying to cope with the reemergence of shame; the fallback to tribalism and the need for reassurance from their echo chamber, and many other visible similarities are all akin to an abuser being confronted by the family of the abused.
The constant drumbeat of leftism has battered the minds of Americans for so long, the perpetrators took it for granted they would always hold the strongest position – even if in the minority. However, something has radically changed.
A martyr is defined as a person who suffers death as a penalty for refusing to renounce their religion or beliefs. More broadly, a martyr is someone who sacrifices their life, well-being, or freedom to support a principle, belief, or ideology that they hold dear. In the attack posture to defend themselves from the aftermath of Charlie Kirk’s murder, the left is proving they just created a martyr.
The need for control is a reaction to fear. The panic amid the collective left is so extreme, every mechanism within their arsenal is being deployed to gain control of the narrative. Some of these efforts are so over-the-top they have become absurd.
[SOURCE]
Politico identifies the global response to Charlie Kirk’s assassination as the result of international manipulation. Their assertion is absurd in all contexts.
Their claims are created within the hive of those who previously constructed the false reality around COVID-19 and subsequent vaccination protocols. People like security analysts at the Center for Internet Security and the Institute for Strategic Dialogue, as well as voices within the control mechanisms of NewsGuard, the private sector information police.
“Mentions of Charlie Kirk appeared more than 6,000 times across official media in China, Russia and Iran between Sept. 10-17, according to misinformation tracker NewsGuard.”
I’m sure the mention of Charlie Kirk appeared at least that many times in China, Russia and Iran, because what Charlie Kirk embodied is something much larger than the geopolitical constructs their government boundaries represent.
A conservative estimate on Google searches alone is around 2.8 million. Multiply that number by every social media and internet communication platform, then consider the ‘mentions‘ found in news feeds and other tech systems. The result is beyond billions.
God is universal. God is truth. Trying to manipulate the natural world is the professional skillset of all these various NGOs and influence agents who operate in a realm they ultimately do not control.
Two days ago, a 40-year-old Taiwanese woman was riding the escalator halfway around the world from where Charlie Kirk was killed. What was she watching on her phone as she stood descending, a Charlie Kirk speech video with close-captioning translation.
The next evening, two middle-age Chinese men were having drinks in an Asian restaurant speaking concerningly in Mandarin. What were they discussing? Charlie Kirk’s assassination. I stand as silent witness to these events.
We have never witnessed anything even remotely similar to what is unfolding in the aftermath of Charlie Kirk’s murder.
For the first time in the history of social media, the influence of a person is expanding more in their death than it was during their life. That expansion is seemingly exponential, and substantively spiritual.
I have no idea what the future of this story will entail, yet I am absolutely certain of the author who controls it.
Amen Sundance…Amen…
Wow!
That is one classic post!
Inspirational, truly inspirational.
Indeed-
“God is universal. God is truth. Trying to manipulate the natural world is the professional skillset of all these various NGOs and influence agents who operate in a realm they ultimately do not control.”
Happiness is like that as well, true happiness is dependent on behaviours of body heart and mind and spiritual attunement that engender a true happiness, not the temporary capricious happiness of self centered base desires.
“Kirk’s life work was built on the idea that violence happens when people stop talking. He was relentless about creating spaces for conversation — not just with those who agreed with him, but with those who disagreed most fiercely. He gave everyone a chance to speak: all ideas, all faiths, all backgrounds were welcome. While so many voices in politics thrive on shutting opponents down, Kirk insisted on the opposite: sit down and talk it through. Debate. Challenge. Use words, not fists.”
I have been advocating for P.S.Ds. (Presidential Sponsored Debates). In my view, the single best way President Trump can honor Charlie Kirk is to establish monthly P.S.Ds. where all the issues are talked about. (Sundance, please consider to support this idea as you can.)
The radical left is afraid of rational debate. As part of the panel debating, I would advocate for an AI version of Mr. Kirk to, using his words, advocate for those positions he so competently supported.
Topics would be wide-ranging, covering all germane issues:
* Global Warming
* Vaccines – Health care
* Individual Liberty and God-given rights
* Transgender issues
* Free Speech
* Foreign relations
* Immigration
* Toxic Masculinity
* Education
* Crime and Culture
* Lawfare and the legal system
* Happiness (What culture ideals make for lasting happiness vs. temporary happiness ending in misery)
BTW, the last is far more important than first thought of. Indeed, it is essential, as those values and philosophies that bring lasting happiness are universal to human nature and absolutely essential for society to prosper. This is detailed in the always free, not a news feed, article titled “Does Power Corrupt?” https://open.substack.com/pub/anderdaa7/p/does-absolute-power-corrupt?r=slvym&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false
Respectfully, NO AI!
I hesitated to put that in there, yet could not resist. AI is here, and without moral experts in its use and ability to limit it through God given natural moral codes built in to limit it, we may be doomed.
Ultimately it is a technology tool used for good or bad, as all human tools, and used well in this idea where every word of Charlie cogent to any debate subjects would be instantly accessible and presented in that debate, Charlies words to the BILLIONS that would watch, and the inane left would melt at this.
Yet the idea of PSDs with or without Charlies woords, is following Charlie Kirks ideal of rational debate. and making it global in PSDs monthly broadcast to the world. Billions would tune in, so please support PSDs. We need Sundance and Robert Malone, and Coffee and Covid author, and all conservative blogger to support this idea and make it happen.
No one is forced to accept AI when it’s used as a weapon against humanity; when it’s used to control people.
It’s anti constitutional because it becomes an unelected force of government, controlled by an elite group of Techs.
We must work to prevent the takeover of our nation by a global Technocracy. Charlie Kirk represented exactly that, using technology only to spread the reach of his fundamentally Christian values and ideas across borders and oceans.
“No one is forced to accept AI” If you stated no one in the US is forced to use AI then I may agree. However all societies sometimes will be or are using it in many areas, including the military. You cannot stop it. If it is used to spy on Americans, then that use can be countered. Just another reason we need AI expertise to counter the misuse.
What law is broken if every word of Charlie cogent to any debate subjects would be instantly accessible and presented. How is that unconstitutional? How is that immoral?
Your argument in the second paragraph is not at all to what I was referring. Thats an optional use of AI which most people would welcome. I’m talking about having AI woven into government processes where it exerts significant influence & control but is unelected and may well become uncontrollable.
Thus far, we have NOT seen government use of AI or plans to use AI to help spread the arguments in support of high morals and biblical decency to the society at large. Every application of AI that we’ve seen government lean towards is ultimately for authoritarian control of citizens, and fabrication of falsehoods to replace truths.
GB, I have never questioned the potential harm of AI, or of any tool. The more powerful the tool the greater the potential misuse.
So your referral to the general danger of any power in Goverment hands is well supported, however not cogent to the criticism of AI used to have instance access to the wise words of Charlie Kirk, which is certainly a beneficial use, and the only use I advocated for. I am pleased that you would consider such a use to be a good thing, and oh how the left would melt down to hear that. However the real benefit would be his articulate words spoken to a global audience in an open debate. Millions would tune in, perhaps billions.
We don’t need AI, it is just another money sucking IT fad like all the previous ones. All those buildings filled with all the servers the AI fanatics need cooling? They’re not filled with servers, they’re filled with people looking up and typing or speaking the answers. Computers are only as “smart” as the code they are programmed with. Five years from now people will be wondering what all the hubbub was about.
Needed or not it is here and will have many uses. Every national military is also developing it. You cannot stop it. No nation can. It is a dangerous technology, so we need experts in it, moral experts that can counter the misuse. A fad it is not.
Even if you could find moral experts as you call them, it will eventually fall into the hands of amoral, godless, authoritarians.
Hi Leet, sorry I conflated two words together best separated. The expertise is in the technology, the morality is in the common principles of right behaviour and individual liberty, and in limiting power over others, experts are required.
Regarding the guarantee of future abuse, yep, you are absolutely correct. The nuclear genie is long out of the bag, and sans the efforts to limit it’s use, where would we be? Just as we need technological expertise in nuclear power and bomb making to detect potential misuse, so we need expertise in AI in order to detect that misuse as well. It is certain to come in many forms, as that genie is out of the bottle as well.
No to Artificial Intelligence.
Yes to Divine Intelligence and Divine Truth
What is needed are messengers who have opened their minds and hearts to G-d.
Charlie was called.
(Exodus 4:10-12)
10 Then Moses said to the Lord, “O my Lord, I am not eloquent, neither before nor since You have spoken to Your servant; but I am slow of speech and slow of tongue.”
11 So the Lord said to him, “Who has made man’s mouth? Or who makes the mute, the deaf, the seeing, or the blind? Have not I, the Lord?
12 Now therefore, go, and I will be with your mouth and teach you what you shall say.”
The Call of Jeremiah to become a prophet (Jeremiah 1:6-10)
6 Then said I: “Ah, Lord God! Behold, I cannot speak, for I am a youth.”
7 But the Lord said to me: “Do not say, ‘I am a youth,’ For you shall go to all to whom I send you, And whatever I command you, you shall speak.
8 Do not be afraid of their faces, For I am with you to deliver you,” says the Lord.
9 Then the Lord put forth His hand and touched my mouth, and the Lord said to me: “Behold, I have put My words in your mouth.
10 See, I have this day set you over the nations and over the kingdoms, To root out and to pull down, To destroy and to throw down, To build and to plant.”
The two, AI and Divine intelligence and truth are orthogonal.
All technology is an insight into God’s laws as the Divine applied his intelligence to creation. The use of such knowelge, for good or ill, is due to attunement to the Divine, or lack of. No knowelge is outside of God.
One can look at the increased power of technology as the Divine testing mankind, to see if said technology is used for good or evil purposes.
We usually muck it up pretty good.
Conservatives must adhere to the axiom debate is over. The most effective response to a leftist is two sentences, “Stop hating. Stop lying”. Then walk away.
Don’t turn your back to them when you walk away.
Disagree, see and consider above, and consider Charlie Kirk, who certainly did not follow that, who’s life work was the opposite of that. “The things that happen to us do not matter, what we become through them does.”
For many years I have said there is NO point arguing with them or trying to zing them with the perfect quip.
I don’t know exactly what “be like Charlie” looks like when talking to the logic-challenged, but standing firm in my beliefs is the change I will be making.
It’s challenging to walk away from feral, rabid, cornered animals…make sure you do so with your head on a swivel!
There is a time and a place to talk, a time to walk away, a time to fight. Charlie Kirk saw the evul, yet he also saw the soul, made by the Divine, and that is what he spoke to.
The veil is dropping before our eyes.
Excellent commentary.
Yeah, love the Natural vs Political law discussion. Would like to see Natural Law become a science that is explored and studied with scientific method. Political Law is the root of trouble.
The left cannot debate ideas. Division diversion, envy and all the “hate” emotions is all they have ever had. If you have a civil debate with a communist they have nothing but failures or currently failing examples to point to. China, North Korea and Cuba are falling and only stubborn stupidity has Europe trying to follow their example.
The globalists are riding a dying red horse and the only way communism succeeds is at the point of a gun.
Moa reverse engineered the bible to get the people to hate each other and themselves. Thats where Rules for Radicals has its origin also.
Consider to support the idea presented in a comment above here
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2025/09/18/panic-afoot-professional-marxists-panic-over-the-rise-of-decency-and-morality-following-charlie-kirk-murder/#comment-12099265
and yes, they hate rational debate.
You can no more debate a true leftist activist than you can debate Christianity and Islam with an Imam.
Neither can a leftist debate so your idea above is doomed at the start. Charlie Kirk’s magic was the challenge of prove me wrong which no leftist could do but neither could they ignore the challenge.
Genius
What idea is doomed at the start? Presdential Sponsored Debates, viewed by billions around the world?
Only the rabid left is afraid of debate, is against that idea. Why are you against it?
So you say debate is doomed, then you reference Charlie Kirk? Your logic is broken.
While so many voices in politics thrive on shutting opponents down, Kirk insisted on the opposite: sit down and talk it through. Debate. Challenge. Use words, not fists.” Are you advocating violence?
I spoke plainly and you acknowledge the problem of the rabid left…….sorry for your pique
My questions were clear, you answers vague, your assumption of any irritation on my part was a wrong assumption.
So your position is that debate is doomed because the rabid left is afraid of debate? Do you not see that the very life of Charlie Kirk is proof that rational debate is required, and successful? Can you not see that PSDs would have a global audience?
Charlie Kirk was a God-inspired lie catcher. He spoke truth to those lies and wanted to free the souls caught by them. Thank God for his life and the legacy he has left. I still weep over the loss of Charlie. Charlie’s death is a monumental loss. I can’t help the tears.
Perfect for this day.
Perfect for this season.
Perfect for the soul.
Charlie has fired the courage of so many (certainly me) that were lukewarm. The Bible tells us in the letters to the churches what lukewarm is!!
I will forever fight for my community, my state, my nation FOR CHARLIE!
Growing up on a farm, this analogy is absolute and profound.
Thank you, Sundance, for ALWAYS carrying the fight and keeping us centered, focused and in-touch.
Consider supporting the practical idea presented in this comment above to aid in the fight for truth. https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2025/09/18/panic-afoot-professional-marxists-panic-over-the-rise-of-decency-and-morality-following-charlie-kirk-murder/#comment-12099265
Sorry to post this so often, yet the idea of PSDs (Presedential Sponsored Debates) to continue to honor and follow Charlie Kirks example will only happen with grass roots support. I only put the idea of a datat base, like an AI, with instant access to all of Charlie Kirks arguments in support of cogent debate subjects , and that version of Charlie being a part of the conservative panel on said subjects. because it is irresistable and a way to honor Charlie Kirk and the truths he presented. The left would melt at Charlies words goiing global at Presedential Sponsored Debates.
Thank you Sundance – Such a beautiful post! I found something powerful on the Internet regarding Charlie Kirk’s murder – if any of you get a chance please click on – Trust in God and his plan – only way to live ❤️ Let go, go God
Wow! That is a powerful testimony for Charlie.
Beautiful take.., Amen Sundance. Christ is King!
Martyr means witness, like Stephen, the first one, and Peter and Paul, and all the faithful through time who have been killed for their love of Christ, like Charlie. And it is a verb as well as a noun.
Preach!
Stephen , a perfect comparison . he laid the truth out before his people from abraham to Jesus and they killed him outright.
This. That’s exactly what’s happening. How long it is sustained is up to us and God. He will send what we need if we all just look and accept His gifts and do as He asks us to. Thank you Sundance for putting into words what this moment in human existence is all about.
I love the distinction between “Law of the School” and “Law of the Farm”. I will use it to teach my teenagers to teach them about life, hard work and responsibility. I occasionally watched short clips of Charlie and of course was always impressed. But I took for granted that he would always be here for us. Now that he is gone, I study them as treasures. I love that man and look forward to seeing him in heaven and giving him a grateful hug.
International manipulation is indeed laughable. The list of nations behind Charlie’s mission is miniscule. Unfortunately for them, God is/was fully behind it.
Nobody believes or trusts the media anymore. Thanks be to God!
Thank you for the encouraging post SD.
Several years ago, Carlo Acutis’ mother said she was visited by St. Francis of Assissi, who told her that mass conversions of teenagers would occur after Carlo was canonized a saint, which happened on Sept 7. Looks like a new martyr will help make this a reality.
Young Acutis was a chronicler of miracles. God’s hand certainly seems to be at work herein, praise God.
Jhn 12:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.
~Jesus
We have Charlie Kirk, they have George Floyd…
Like the man said, “As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.”
We as conservatives used prayer and vigil s to honor Charlie and they used violence for George Floyd
Sundance, thank you for verifying my assumption that the evil leftist do not have an equivalent influencer to Charlie.
I was talking to my wife about the insane reactions from these evil subhumans. We are both sickened by the celebration of his assassination and disgusted with the hatred spewing out from DemonicRat leaders.
We would never act like this if their heroes were murdered
Poor analogy. George Floyd wasn’t murdered.
Floyd was allowed to die by paramedics who didn’t give him oxygen, and who didn’t show up until half an hour after ambulance was called.
The DS coordinated with Blue city mayors and Blue State governors, to be on the lookout for any incidents involving repeat Black felons and White cops, which could be used to foment race riots during the 2024 election campaign.
Floyd was exactly what they were looking for……so were Walz and Frey.
They knew Floyd had a history of swallowing his stash when confronted by cops. They knew he was in distress. The paramedics finished the job.
Everyone can feel it’s true.
It just required an end to silence.
Our collective voices are calling this out!
We ARE Charlie!
💘✝️
There you go Lorrie.
“It just required an end to silence.”
Exactly right. Finally the large majority of moral people who have sat quietly for such a long time have started to speak up and be heard. This is exactly what needs to happen.
The left has been lying for a long long time. Their lies have been supported or covered up by their lapdog corporate legacy media accomplices. The despicable assassination of Charley Kirk is a culmination of a series of events where people are finally figuring out they’ve been psyoped. The tide is turning and the truth bombs are exploding. Now is the time to fight fight fight.
What horror is in the shadows as anyone can be a sapper? We were once constrained by morality but that vanished so quickly most of us probably didn’t believe it until things were too far in the hole to rescue.
Excellent question, and a good theme for a story; one told often and with variations on the ending but always alloyed with man-with-a-purpose. That the purpose is incompatible with civility and morality is only one part of the plot. And a riveting tale it can be, contained as it is between the covers of a book or restricted to pixels.
This is not that. This is a terrible symptom of infantile rage, developmental retardation, conceit and narcissism metastasized into murder. We see it in females of the new age but on a small scale and in feminized males as well. They circulate in social circles insulated from consequence and fertilized by confirmation bias, aware only of their wants and living in a world that demands very little effort from them to survive. A luxury of time and a life without calluses allows self-righteous fury to escalate into action. What else can they do with their energy? Maybe that action is meant to advance their standing among equally degenerate peers, or maybe there is a conceit that their world cannot tolerate friction so it is their mythology pushing them to slay an invading dragon?
What the fv(k ever, dude. What ever spark of stupid it is burning inside them should have been quenched long ago by parents and friends, lovingly shaking them by the collar and slapping some sense into them. That used to happen regularly, along with a sharp lecture about growing up and acting like you had some sense. Remember Ralphie and the bar of soap?
Then came feminism, the destruction of healthy barriers to unhealthy behavior, a vigorous retreat from nuclear families, and the discarding of morality lessons. Add to that general illiteracy and a welcoming of destructive invading cultures and we have shit soup on the menu every damned day.
I have been watching a lot of Charlie’s videos lately. He was actually much more MAGA than PDJT. There was much talk that he was on the path the the presidency, possibly even as Vance’s running mate in 2028.
No disrespect to PDJT, but Charlie seemed to be 10x more competent than PDJT, and he would never have made the horrible staffing decisions that have plagued the Trump administration. He would have implemented a true 100% pure America-First agenda, and thus he was incredibly dangerous to the deep state.
A man like Charlie could never have been allowed to ascend to the presidency. I’m convinced that he was taken out by the deep state, possibly with Tyler Robinson as a patsy.
Put down your crackpipe please.
There is no need to denigrate the anointed President whom Charlie helped elect.
Otherwise, good post.
Good comment. Charlie Kirk was more articulate the our President, yet President Trump is an astounding man with a past of getting things done in the real world against odds that would overwhelm 99.999999 percent of the people.
My apologies for my choice of words regarding PDJT. Wasn’t my intent to denigrate him.
Now I can go upvote your comment.
“Patsy” infers Tyler did not do it. I think automaton would be more likely term.
Robinson in all probability is the assassin.
This about Charlie Kirk’s legacy and the sudden outbreak of Decency and Integrity around the world. Ironic that you show up and insult President Trump within your screed.
My intent was not to insult PDJT. I guess after re-reading my comment it seems like it could be perceived that way but definitely not my intent. I meant that CK would never have hired people like Mike Pompeo, Susie Wiles, Pam Bondi.
On the other hand… I do remember an encounter I had with you in one of my first comments ever on CTH. I stated that without Charlie Kirk and TPUSA, DJT would not have been re-elected. Your response was to slam Charlie and you stated that he little effect on the election. You actually said that it was Barron not CK who got DJT re-elected!!!
I don’t recall Charlie ever mentioning who he would hire if he were in the position of POTUS. How would any of us know what Mr. Kirk would have done?
With all due respect, your posture here seems to be useless speculation.
Nope. My words were the regarding the TPUSA institution. It’s no secret the agenda of the money and the scoundrels who coattailed on it like DeSantis, etc. Truths unfortunately that Sundance also wrote about.
I never denigrated Charlie Kirk, his beliefs or debates with leftists. Nor did I ever suggest anyone take an action because of my opinion.
Thank you for your clarification of intent with regard to to President Trump.
You’re forgiven….by me anyway. Words, like text messages, don’t always come out the way we intended.
Because you have been respectful and replied with reason, I will share this. The ” March through the institutions” was all but complete. I had real expertise in my field and had the challeng of going into a profit center and just changing a few procedures to improve efficiency. You may not imagine the resitance just from hurt egos, not from active immoral hate. Not multiple that by 10.000 wih 95 percent of the rank and file against you, actively trying to undermine, with the HR and DOJ all doing their level best to undermine. Every 3 letter agency, every attorney, tens of thousands of employees, and your established base, the RINOS also whispering and explaining. I can literally think of no other person I have known that could do what Trump has done, endured what he has endurd, and kept on. This term President Trumps choices have been far far better. I am fairly certain that neither Patel ( see the entire questioning he just went through) or Bondi are against him. ( I have More reservations about Bondi) In Term one he had unknowingly appointed those that actively betrayed him. Not so in term two. However there tens of thousands of rabid deep staters actively working against the MAGA agenda. Don’t be so quick to judge.
“I meant that CK would never have hired people like Mike Pompeo, Susie Wiles, Pam Bondi.” There is no way for you to know that. Pure hyperbolic speculation.
This is bc CK is not compromised by Netanyahu. CK went to Trump and begged him to not bomb Iran. Trump yelled at him and told him no. CK learned that day that Trump was not making the decisions, Netanyahu was. That’s why CK had to go.
You methed up?
Nah I just don’t work for hasbara. You?
https://thegrayzone.com/2025/09/12/charlie-kirk-netanyahu-israel-assassination/
And your source for this is . . . ?
Candace?
https://thegrayzone.com/2025/09/12/charlie-kirk-netanyahu-israel-assassination/
🤦♂️ Another “the Joos run the world” derp.
This is a fantasy.
Trump is doing all he possibly can to make America great, given the system he operates in and the politics in place.
That is why he was spared by God in Butler.
Mr. Kirk would have the same problems getting his choices confirmed. It’s not about who you pic, it’s who will ‘they’ allow.
Yet Charlie loved and praised PDJT. Imagine that.
Uhhh…. no.
The crimes of the left are fully exposed, but there are no prosecutions. Why? That is the question. Why are the elite totalitarians “getting a free pass?” Logic tells me that there should be some punishment for the orchestration of a coup d’etat. Any comments to help me with my understanding are appreciated.
There is no simple response and thousands have commented on this for years. In summary however the “March through the Institutions” was all but complete, and the battle to take them back is engaged.
Those that get a free pass, Prof, have set themselves up as “elitist” while in reality, they are decisionmakers and even lawmakers.
Until we are able to eliminate the term of “elitist” from the government ruled vernacular of and …meaning “We the People”…
These people, who don’t get prosecuted, will continue to be “untouchable”…which in my not so humble opinion, is what ‘they’, TPTB, are.
I encourage all Treepers here, to do a deep dive into the definitions of “elite” and “elitist”…..get back to the basics, first. Then…
Follow the money.
IMHO of course…for the record, I am a Christian Conservative tethered in IL…but not sure for how much longer…
Time of death 12:23. Read John 12:23.
12:23 Jesus replied, “The hour has come for the Son of Man to be glorified.
https://x.com/Yodertoter40/status/1968128168189141474
God is using Charlie’s life in so many ways.
I think one of the best ways is , we can now see exactly who the enemy is .
They take thier mask off because they can’t help but celebrate this great mans death.
You can now see who is mournful , respectful , hateful and even demonic .
Vance credits Charlie Kirk with Trump election win
VANCE: And Charlie would always tell me whenever I went to Arizona, he’d say, don’t worry about Arizona, worry about Michigan, worry about Wisconsin. We’ve got Arizona Talk just about how important Charlie was to our effort to win and make Donald Trump the president of the United States.
LEAVITT: Look, the president has said it himself. The president’s massive gains with young Americans across the country was in no small part because of the efforts of Charlie Kirk and Turning Point USA and our team on the campaign was constantly checking in with him and keeping him apprised of what the president was doing and saying, because we needed his voice to relay that to his audience, which is made up of young people across the country.
And the president spoke at many Turning Point events. He went into that lion’s den at the invitation of Charlie to get his message across. And Charlie was incredibly supportive of non-traditional new media strategy that the president took.
And you know, the president loved Charlie deeply, you know that Mr. Vice president and I know that and I know he deeply is hurt by this loss because Charlie played an instrumental role in returning the president to the Oval Office.
And I just love that clip from election night when Charlie realized President Trump had won and he was speechless for one of the few times in his life. There were no words, just tears.
“There is no leftist individual willing to enter the intellectual or philosophical gauntlet of debate and challenge a conservative audience to “come to the front of the line” and convince the audience their viewpoint.”
Seems as though the last who was even in the general category was Christopher Hitchens, and he died in 2011. But though he wrote many books and articles and made many TV appearances, he certainly never approached the youth for dialogue the way Charlie did.
This post is one of your better ones yet, Sundance. It can now be “cemented” to hold up the “fence” on the farm.
It’s a shame it had to be this way,God’s will be done.
Charlie ,my best friend whom I’m never met ,was just getting started.
Could it be that he was intended to be the spark that lit the fire under the slow to anger people on the right side of the good vs evil struggle all along?
John 15:18-19 “If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first. If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to theworld, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you.”
They hated Charlie Kirk because he loved Jesus Christ! They also feared him because “There is no person of leftist ideology capable of advocating their man-made construct against the natural laws that underpin the conservative worldview of a Charlie Kirk audience. Because the only place their ideology can survive is in an arena without challenge.”-Sundance. So the “arena” was cleared of Charlie Kirk the only way the left knows how!!! JMO
Consider supporting the practical idea presented in this comment above to aid in the fight, to keep Charlied Kirks words of truth going to the entire world. Billions would tune in to these one a month PSDs https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2025/09/18/panic-afoot-professional-marxists-panic-over-the-rise-of-decency-and-morality-following-charlie-kirk-murder/#comment-12099265
Sorry to post this so often, yet the idea of PSDs (Presedential Sponsored Debates) to continue to honor and follow Charlie Kirks example will only happen with grass roots support. I only put the idea of a datat base, like an AI, with instant access to all of Charlie Kirks arguments in support of cogent debate subjects , and that version of Charlie being a part of the conservative panel on said subjects. because it is irresistable and a way to honor Charlie Kirk and the truths he presented. The left would melt at Charlies words goiing global at Presedential Sponsored Debates.
Turning Point. Charlie’s legacy in life, and the overwhelming effect of his murder. The choice of those words, so long ago…..
As long of the message originates from 0ur LORD and Savior, (God Almighty and Jesus Christ)!!
Evil will continue to prowl. It watches, waits, learns while doing so and puts to practice what it learns.
Beware of said practices as it is likely the anti-christ will add what has been learned to his/her/its arsenal.
Stay vigilant brothers and sisters!
ALL PRAISE AND GLORY TO GOD ALMIGHTY, (in the highest)!!
Rest in peace, Charlie Kirk! It is well deserved.
Excellent summation.
As I’ve posted many times this week. God works in mysterious ways. But this time I believe we know why he needed to bring Charlie home. His return to Heaven has brought back millions, maybe billions to Jesus flock.
Sundance, I read on a blog in the late 90s, around 1997 regarding the DNC issuing a study with focus groups. In those focus groups, they learned if individuals were given or debated on facts, the focus group favored Republican ideas. It was high sixty to low seventy percent range. However, if the debate was centered on emotional topics, the audience would favor Democrat ideas in the sixty percent range. It was at that time, I noticed Democrats emotionalizing everything and concluded they were doing it based on this study. They would only communicate in twisted emotional statements. Again, this was a DNC commissioned study with their focus groups.
I read this on the American Thinker website back in that time period. I’ve tried to search for that blog post on their website and use other searches for that particular report but to no avail. Nevertheless, I did read it and it does exist. My point being this is the Charlie Kirk model whether he realized it or not. Just take facts to the population and the probabilities will work in your favor.
It reinforces the old adage : if you’re not a democrat in your 20’s you have no Heart, but if you’re not a republican in your 40’s, you have no brain !
“I have no idea what the future of this story will entail; yet I am absolutely certain of the author who controls it.”
Amen. No doubt about it whatsoever.
Pray for Trump family safety along with the MAGA warriors. Cornered animals react irrationally.
Sundance, you are blessed and filled with the Holy Sprit. Charlie Kirk was raised up and then taken from us. There are others who have been inspired and are blessed with faith and courage to speak out and lead us on a righteous path. Thank you for the part you have been inspired to undertake Sundance.
Everyone I speak to feels different,a yearning they can now openly admit to finding their way back to God!
This article provides a comprehensive treatise of Charlie Kirk’s martyrdom, exemplifying how truth ultimately prevails. I don’t know who Sundance is but as Rush Limbaugh use to say Sundance has “Talent on loan from God”!
I truly believe Charlie Kirk is a Christian martyr. I am praying for revival and an outpouring of the Holy Spirit the likes of which we have never seen 🙏🏻❤️
Excellent and uplifting, SD!
Thank you!
Charlie’s death has revealed who liberals are in their response. May God have mercy on their souls.
They are Leftists, and in many cases are the farthest to the Left. None of them are liberals in the classic sense. They only use the term ‘liberal’ to mask what they really are.
While I was aware of him, I was not really following him. Different generation, different media. But after the assassination, I did research. The question is turning point or milestone on the road to destruction.
On a personal note, this murder made me realize that I have been sitting silently, watching others say the words I am thinking.
I am silent no more. And from what I am seeing, I am not the only one who took this easy road.
One gigantic voice was silenced, but millions of smaller voices have filled that void. I feel like I owe it to the Kirk family to rise up and be silent no more.
Charlies Instagram account went from 1.2 million to over 12 million
TPUSA has had 54,000+ requests for new chapters.
Yea, this kicked up a dust !
Amen.
Perfect summation of the transformative, global response to this modern martyr! ✝️
The ripples are expanding in epic waves. 🌊
God bless, Charlie!
God bless, Sundance!
💕🙏
A column to share and to keep. Thank you Sundance. 🙏🏻
We feel the crossing that is happening, also very much in our selves.
We are thankful for the few years we had Charlie here. For the goodness and smartness he showed us so we can carry on.
You all have a Blessed Day. ♥️
And you, as well!
$0r0$ in the cross hairs?
JD Vance – “If you encourage or fund your fellow Americans, or anybody else, to commit acts of violence because you disagree with political speech, you are going to be treated like a terrorist organization — and we’re going to go after you.”
Psst…commie filth….
We have allowed you to exist because of our values for freedom….
You have abused our tolerance to the extreme….
We have allowed you to grow, corrupting every facet of society….
Tolerance was abused and by which society has suffered immensely….
Over time it has become very apparent it’s not tolerance you desire at all…
It is WAR that you wish….
Well, now you have what you desire….
Now….IT’S TIME TO CRUSH YOU!
NO MERCY!
Post of the day !! I’ve copied it and forwarded it to my fellow Patriots. Thanks Retired USMC.
Life is a battle, a holy battle and I choose to honor the weapons of choice Charlie Kirk used, pure reason infused with a compassionate heart and an indomitable will. If we take up his weapons, the we will not only honor his life and message, but also emerge victorious.
Tried that route…
look at what happened…
These filthy animals need to be dealt with as such…the are rabid…
There is no reasoning with mentally ill people who want you dead…
WAKE UP!
I saw this happening two days after Charlie was murdered.
I had people tell me they had never heard of Charlie Kirk but had searched him online to listen and they wished they had been listening all of the time.
They were going to go back and search for some more of his events so they could hear more.
That is why I made the comment on an earlier post that Charlie would be heard more in death than in life.
Sometimes I head over to IMDB to check in on Hollywood trends, not because I care about celebrities but because it sometimes provides insight into the mindset of the mainstream world.
Charlie Kirk is currently the “Top Rising Star” in popularity, having gone from #59,996 to #40. By comparison, Tom Cruise is #36 and Liam Neeson is #39.
A small data point but it is evidence of what you are talking about.
Small perhaps, but important!
They put a 100 pound weight on Charlie’s results. He is probably number 1. Nothing on sites like that when it comes to politics is truthful.
Regardless it is remarkable. Kirk has four credits to his name and all of them have low reviews (that is not a reflection on his work, and is to be expected in an environment such as IMDB). Neither he nor TPUSA has the marketing/promotional power which artificially manufactures interest in Hollywood personalities and influences such rankings.
Kirk for all intent and purposes was not a celebrity. The fact that a political figure has garnered so much interest on a celebrity-oriented website historically hostile to his politics says a lot.
Am hearing this as well. Think about how many people each of those people talk to. Definitely a phenomenal shift is happening. My heart is heavy and rejoicing all at the same time.❤️🙏🏼
Consider suporting this Grass Roots idea to extend and continue that…
Consider supporting the practical idea presented in this comment above to aid in the fight, to keep Charlied Kirks words of truth going to the entire world. Billions would tune in to these one a month PSDs
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2025/09/18/panic-afoot-professional-marxists-panic-over-the-rise-of-decency-and-morality-following-charlie-kirk-murder/#comment-12099265
Sorry to post this so often, yet the idea of PSDs (Presedential Sponsored Debates) to continue to honor and follow Charlie Kirks example will only happen with grass roots support. I only put the idea of a datat base, like an AI, with instant access to all of Charlie Kirks arguments in support of cogent debate subjects , and that version of Charlie being a part of the conservative panel on said subjects. because it is irresistable and a way to honor Charlie Kirk and the truths he presented. The left would melt at Charlies words going global at Presedential Sponsored Debates. Billions would watch.
We can search YouTube, and like all his videos to boost the algorithms. Even if you don’t watch all of it, but scroll to the end, and maybe even subscribe.
Great Idea!
I didn’t have control of the media in this house but once I did the television went on its own to several CK events so I finally heard him before I cut the cord and understood that he was genius. Timing in my own life is interesting to me.