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Go Trump, Go!
Praying.
Praying !
Thanks ed.
Praying!
Charlie Kirk…
I just cannot move past it…
Yes, the nation is in shock, disbelief, cold anger, hot tears. All of the stages of grief. But I am encouraged here in California by the number of people who are posting online that they started listening to some of Charlie’s videos to see what he was about and are going to register Red and vote Red going forward! We may just see a 100+ gain in the House, which has only happened twice, I believe, in American history.
And South Carolina’s Supreme Court just handed down a preliminary motion to vacate lower court’s silly injunction blocking the Dept of Civil Rights from accessing voter rolls so they can hardcore purge illegals and the cemetery voters off the rolls. Change is in the air.
I grieve for the loss to America, but I am hopeful that a million more Charlie Kirk’s were awakened yesterday. Pray for the soul of America and keep living your best life as Sundance always tells us when the darkness seems to be closing in around us. There is always hope in the Lord!
Amen, CaliGirl.
CaliGirl: Your optimism is encouraging…
But I am not there.
Too many leftists dancing on Charlie’s grave
…and I have done a deep dive into the assissination and it was an organized hit with many players…
We are dealing with a leviathon.
That said, I am not bereft…
For I have read the last page of the bible and…We Win!
But for now, my grief knows no bounds…
https://rumble.com/v6ytlzo-breaking-update-atfdhs-say-charlie-kirks-killers-gunammo-covered-with.html
It is no longer the “Democrat Party.” It is the communist party. We need to speak truths, not let them steal language and our minds — like “liberal,” my particular pet peeve.
I think he was wrong. I believe the exact opposite.
WHAT LIBERALISM IS:
“It is the world of Lucifer, disguised in our times under the name of Liberalism, in radical opposition and in perpetual warfare against that society composed of the Children of God, the Church of Jesus Christ”
I’m convinced liberals are both ridiculously stupid and evil and nobody can ever convince me otherwise .
Liberals are convinced hundred’s of different genders walk the planet , you can’t get dumber than that .
No it is not. Conservatives think liberals are incapable or running anything, they are stupid and so are their ideas. They think should not hold office for that reason. I Liberals want conservatives dead
While in general, I agree.. to be more precise —
The liberals are stupid for the most part. The WEF, Soros, the Sea Island group, the creatures from Jekyll Island, the RINOs that are pretending they are representing conservative people –they are the evil ones. The Evil WEF, Fauci, Gates are the ones who show the least regard for human life.
There would be something wrong with you if you could.
Some clarification of terms might be helpful here:
LIBERALS – traditionally believe in individual rights, free markets, and gradual reform within existing systems.
LEFTISTS – seek radical structural change through wealth redistribution, identity politics, and often the dismantling of traditional institutions. Additionally, embrace Marxist-inspired ideologies focusing on identity conflict and are quick to violence. Leftists are anti-Christian and tend to be sociopathic, psychopathic and bipolar.
Many on the left claim to be liberals when in fact they are liars and really are leftists.
A third category: Those who grift off of the conflct between liberals/leftists and keep it going for the sake of making money, keeping power, keeping nations from becoming strong. Those who deny the existence of God, morality, or wrong.
Like the Mafia who grift off addiction, offer prostitution to addicted poor girls and women, drugs to sell, gambling to make money,
And all of its other forms: High interest to the poor, tobacco, Kratom, porn, brothels, show bars, addictive video games, sports (designed to distract.
You could tell Hitlers purpose, see his fruit. You can see the fruit of Soros, Pelosi, Brennan (brennan) , Klaus, Obama, Maher, Antifa. These people need to be declared enemies, their power taken, their money confiscated and frozen
Now name a true liberal in the a democrat Party. You cannot because they have run them all out.
💯
Sunday’s prayers and verses: https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2025/08/30/the-still-hour-part-7/#comment-12065138
Amen
Thanks ed
Good morning RD !!
Amen
Amen. Thanks ed
Good morning TT !!
Amen!
Amen.
Amen. Go God beat the devil.
The Game Plan
Sundance @TheLastRefuge2
“Trump will not find perfect solutions. He will find OPTIMAL solutions. We cannot ask for more.
Trump has stood by and watched Perfect murder Good for 8 years – maybe longer. He’s not gonna do it. He’s going to deliver the best outcome possible, and he’s not waiting for us to feel relaxed about it.
Best presidency ever! Just hang on. More winning is coming, but a lot of people are going to scream that it’s all over at EVERY turn.
The best way through this is to define viewpoints, not people, because people will shift as they change position and velocity in Trump gravity.
Bash the neocon, warmonger, and dopey globalist positions – not the people who are going to hold them one moment and come loose from them later.
Trump is Jupiter moving through the asteroid belt. He is going to pull people into his orbit.
A few will get slung off into space, but most will come along for the ride of their lives.
I am ON the Trump Train for good, even if I scream that I want off and can’t take it. In the end, I only want to scream “TOO MUCH WINNING!!!”
Unseen1 @unseen1_unseen
Here is the game plan that the forces against Trump will be using for the foreseeable future.
They will attempt to get you to make the perfect the enemy of the good.
Be it the freedom clowns and spending, the immigration hawks with H1B visas, the peace doves with timing, the cultural warriors with total bans of DEI/CRT, the neocons with war fighting, or the swamp dwellers with draining the swamp.
All of them will attempt to get you to believe on whatever issue is the issue of the day that it doesn’t go far enough or do enough. They will try to make you think that some sub issue of that issue is more important and should be handled first, that since the issue hasn’t been handled yet it won’t be, that we can’t do more than one thing, that so and so is a plant to stop the draining of the swamp, or that because it wasn’t 100% Trump lied. On every single issue, one or more groups will attempt this strategy.
You can’t allow them that power over you. If Trump secures the border and deports 2 million, don’t allow them to reduce that good by them saying well he didn’t deport 2.5 million, so he failed or lied.
You can’t allow them to use the perfect to void out the good in the coming months.
They will try. They already have with the CR and the H1b visa debates. It works, that is why they use it. You have to keep it in the front of your head on everything about to occur that half a loaf or hopefully in most cases 7/8ths a loaf is better than no loaf.
Do not allow them to gaslight you into thinking the good is the enemy of the perfect.
In the real world, most things are never perfect, but if we try real hard, we can get plenty of good accomplished in the coming 4 years.
President Trump is transparent in his words and actions. He is consistent in what he says, what he does, and what he asks/demands of others. His promises are bold and he keeps them like no other president has. He is making massive, nearly overnight changes, not only in our country, but in the world. It is amazing that he is able to accomplish so much when there are so many snakes in the grass. This term, he is weeding them out faster. No U.S. president has ever faced so much organized resistance and treason than President Trump
The purpose and goals of President Trump are plainly visible by his actions and consistent: He is for the benefit first of the common PEOPLE of this country, then of the PEOPLE in the rest of the world. It is validating, even to our battered conservative skepticism.
The methods of his leadership are amazing. I still don’t get HOW he does it, or HOW he is able to get so much momentum going, but every day the momentum is growing. Everyone and every organization has their eyes opened every day — just by watching him. Even those who hate him, are biased against him, and want to see him gone — cannot ignore him. He lives rent free in their head, and they come around to seeing the universal principles by which he is operating. He hammers actions based on truth from one direction, then another, and they cannot mount an organized opposition against him.
He has chosen to use his intellect and every skill he has to do what is right. He has tremendous faith that he can make a difference in this world. He has a confidence and courage such that he doesn’t care what others think, yet a humility to know he has to do it with the help of like minded people. Those people are the “common” people, and he ridicules those who think they are not common.
He believes people are basically good. He believes that God is real. He believes that healthy people are happy people, and they need to be able to create wealth freely for their labor, and have the freedom to spend their money on what is good for them.
He believes the United States, with its Constitutional Republic, is the best environment in the world to enable and give opportunity for people to be happy and prosperous.
He believes that we can be a light for the world, but we must demand that the rest of the world respect us and our right to life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of happiness.
He believes the enemy of our country are the stupid, greedy American people who have been selfishly taking advantage of this country; who betrayed the trust and obedience of its people; and who diverted the people’s wealth for their own selfish gain, at the expense of the principles of this country. He’s not going to allow that anymore.
He has cultivated and focused the family of MAGA. Identifying those people whose goodness, industriousness, trust, and obedience have been taken advantage of and abused. He has opened our eyes to this abuse, and the rights of freedom and self determination that have been quietly stolen from us.
He has rekindled the healthy distrust of government and men with too much power held by our founders. He has recultivated the desire to reclaim our freedoms and rights, and is empowering us with a hope and pathway to reclaim our spiritual and economic freedom.
He wants the US to be a light of hope on the hill for all people. He will negotiate win/win agreements with those nations and countries who respect us; who respect the principles and intent of our Constitution. If you do not respect us, however, we are not going to let you take advantage of our goodness, or share in our wealth at our expense. If you as a nation are treating your people badly, you are going to be treated less favorably by us, until you show that you value your people as much as we value ours.
He is convincing those who are very wealthy (most of whom truly earned their money), that the best economic soil in which to build wealth is in a constitutional republic, which supports the ability of the common man to earn wealth in proportion to his efforts. The economic engine of the United States is the human spirit freed to enjoy the fruits of honest labor, and that engine has more natural and raw horsepower than any other governed economy.
The Trump Train seems to be remarkably aligned with universal principles of Truth, which reflect the will and design of our Creator, and are the best standard by which we should live. These same principles were what our country’s founders used to declare independence, and framed into the Constitution of this nation.
Our founders believed that a nation should preserve the right and freedom of an individual to seek, understand, and live by God’s principles. They believed that free individuals working together in humility would make a stronger nation than a government which dictates its will on the people. President Trump professes and seeks to lead and restore this nation back to these same principles.
These principles resonate deeply within all human beings, down to our DNA in every cell, in our spirits, and produce fruit that “miraculously” multiplies. Because we follow universal principles, we see the snowballing acceleration of momentum on day 236 of the 2nd term of this very stable genius in the history of the kingdoms of this world in the year of our Lord 2025.
Dear Lord, please cause the scales to drop from the eyes of those who do not see and the lies of the evil to be exposed.
Amen
Amen!
I have an acute case of liberal fatigue.
It is so bizarre, too, that they take the name of “liberal” because they are anything BUT:
-not generous-minded enough to listen to those who hold a different point of view without clicking into “racist!” gear
-vindictive as hell to those who question their pet theories on “settled law” (eg, Roe v. Wade) or “settle science” (“climate change”)
-violent in speech and deed to anyone not falling in line with their theories (eg, burning Tesla automobiles, tearing down, throwing bricks)
-willing to destroy America in the name of their twisted idea of “democracy”
I could go on!
By their continuous actions, Democrats (Liberals, the Left) do not believe in Equality or our protection of Free Speech under the 1st Amendment.
They do not deserve to have a competing national representative political party in the US. They do not have allegiance to our Constitution.
I wish conservatives would quit calling them liberals. Because they are anything but liberal. They are the left. Liberals are actually tolerant. The left is not.
Agreed 💯
Progressives/ Progressivist – progressing to extreme totalitariansim
Documentary linked…
Alinksy-ites… won the favor of the CHURCH… and with that backing engulfed the political-liberals…
(the church has always been the clergy to organized crime, btw)
Wolf in Sheep’s Clothing’
Pay special attention to Bella Dodd’s quote here
Liberalism and satan completely annihilated my family.
Control Freaks are not liberal.
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I hold a glimmer of hope for that gentleman in the middle portrait on the left, Mr. Farrakhan; he was wracked into a million shards of grief, broken-hearted over the death of their brother – that is, Col. Muammar Ghaddafi and how and why did the President at that time, Barack Obama, allow those horrific things to happen to their brother? What happened? How was that possible? President Barack Obama has never been compelled to answer for that, how an ally of the USA was turned into a fugitive in his own country, bombed within his own country. Then his horrific death.
Hillary……we came we saw he died. cackle cackle
Love this administration. Gotta wonder if perhaps they were thinking small and not looking at the whole picture. Millions allowed into the USA unvetted. Including folks that could have killed CK. You would be foolish if you think that among those that crossed, there are no hit teams to take out folks systematically, to try to cause a civil war. If Americans are too busy fighting each other, they will not notice (they hope) China or Russia move in for the kill shot.
That being said, I feel this was from some crazy group in the USA.
POTUS has known the BIG Picture for many years – talked about it way before presidency.
I’m re-posting these links… to help the effort to identify & locate them for removal…
from OurLastStand yesterday @2:02p,:
“This pertains to foreigners here in the USA who are celebrating and/or advocating the murder of people with whom they disagree or don’t like.
They are GUESTS in this country. They don’t get to come here and tear apart the fabric of our country. Send them home.”
possibly more than a few here – follow the embedded link…
{ https://www.breitbart.com/border/2025/09/11/hatred-unleashed-abc13-houstons-report-on-kirk-medal-of-freedom-plan-becomes-platform-for-violent-leftist-rhetoric/ }
AND This might be useful…
“Charlie Kirk was just murdered.
Is an employee or student of yours supporting political violence online?
Look them up here.”
{ New site emerges to call out those cheering political violence… }
…
{ EXPOSED: New Website ‘Charlie’s Murderers’ Reveals Vile Leftists, Including Doctors and Teachers, Celebrating the Assassination of Charlie Kirk }
“Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” ~ Voltare
and Thanks @Crimson Cloud for this writer’s succinct quote…
“If you believe free speech is for you but not your political opponents, you’re illiberal.
If no contrary evidence could change your beliefs, you’re a fundamentalist.
If you believe the state should punish those with contrary views, you’re a totalitarian.
If you believe political opponents should be punished with violence or death, you’re a terrorist.
~ JKR
{ https://xcancel.com/jk_rowling/status/1966256971134234678 }
Something else to look for/ identify in addition to celebrating – the “walking-it-back”-ers…
{ https://x.com/shipwreckshow/status/1966248255618179173/video/1 }
PhD History student who’s watching people’s reactions…not events… explains
Thanks @Banannas for this GEM
Round ‘em up!..EVERY DAMN OF EM! Just like J6 grannies who were parading without a permit.
Also if I were still employing people, I’d damn sure want to know if ANY of them might have been horrible enough to post stupidity to the Interwebs.
There can and will be some serious boycott backlash for any outfit that is found to still have these demons on the payroll.
You can add that nasty person in Minnesota, Ilham Omar, speaking with forked tongue, stealing from us and not having anything to say about the GOOD of Charlie Kirk. JMHO
Top-O’-the-list!
Thank you for these links AmaraGrace….
God bless us, everyone. God loves us, we are strong!
I’m confident his applies to all these referenced sites… so this exposure effort is *not* “doxxing” –
“… The website documenting these posts describes itself as
“a lawful data aggregator of publicly available information”
created to expose those glorifying political violence. It states: “We firmly denounce all political violence and criminal activity.
…”
{ https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/09/despicable-reactions-charlie-kirk-assassination-they-wanted-him/ }
I feel the set-up is to draw conclusions that it was some unhinged individual . . . but whomever did it had to be a consummate and single-minded professional who could certainly USE bullets on which messages are etched . . . and he used only one of those bullets, if I have that right.
You lie.
Get thee behind me Satan.
This appears to be a short-sleeve version of the shirt that Charlie Kirk’s shooter was wearing.
https://gem.app/product/vintage-land-of-the-free-tee-shirt-size
You lie.[
Get thee behind me Satan.
So, let’s find the source of the long sleeve version.
Sundance told us that yesterday……Ebay.
I could be wrong but the font on the T-shirt image looks clipped.
Could just be the angle.
The newest video shows a guy jumping off the roof of the building at the event. He lands on the ground and heads towards the exit street from the parking lot. There is no sign of the rifle at that point. Where is it? Supposedly he dumped it in a wooded area with a screw driver. Where is the wooded area? Is it next to the building so he just threw it off the roof before he left? This just keeps making little sense. No one saw a guy with a rifle. The videos show this guy with no rifle apparent. Was it in his back pack? Broken down? Under the timelines on those videos, unless they were wrong, he seemingly didn’t have enough time to get onto the campus area where the event was, up on the roof, assemble a rifle, shoot Charlie, get rid of the rifle, jump off the roof and run away.
What they are showing so far doesn’t seem to line up in a cohesive way yet. What is the story really I wonder and is this really the guy?
You are correct! This does not make sense. The narrative is not making sense. Add to that, the position of the sniper was supposedly in the front, but the shot that killed CK came from his RIGHT. He jerked to the left after being shot. Not understanding this.
The rifle is wrapped in a dark towel. Earlier yesterday it was reported that the gun had been wrapped in a towel of some sort.
Check the video here…
Maximize the video, and you can clearly see after he jumps down he’s holding something to his side… especially @1:18, where you can see a long object on his left side trailing his body. The towel looks like it’s flapping in the breeze a little bit when he’s running., and it doesn’t make sense that he would be carrying his backpack in that situation. As in… he would be wearing the backpack, not carrying it.
You’re correct. He had two things he was carrying. I did not see the one before but he clearly set two down as he positioned himself to jump down. Thanks for redirecting me.
Thank you! The pieces of the puzzle are being put together!
He left something in the gutter corner before he took the backpack and climbed down
You wouldn’t carry a Mauser in your back pack it is to long a rifle. A Mauser has a single piece stock. The action and barrel are bedded. If you break that rifle down to hide it in a backpack and reassemble it, the action and barrel shift, and it becomes highly inaccurate. I would guess the rifle was placed and hidden on or near the roof earlier.
Sporterized Argentine Mauser Model 1909 bolt-action rifle, .30-06 cal
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To “bed” a rifle means to precisely fit the stock around the action (and sometimes the barrel, too). Two-piece stocks mount onto the firearm, rather than supporting the firearm as one-piece stocks do, so bedding is generally only useful (or possible) with one-piece stocks. The purpose of bedding is to tighten the imperfect fit between stock and action, which would otherwise allow the action to shift imperceptibly in the stock under recoil. Rifles that are not bedded are constantly enduring these slight changes in position, resulting in inconsistent flexing and vibration shot-to-shot, which in turn translates to less consistent groups and accelerated wear on the stock.
I’d generally agree, but if you’ve seen the approach video, you see he’s limping or walking with a stiff leg. Like he’s got something against his body and down the right leg of his pants. I’m almost positive he carried it in.
Michael Savage of Savage Nation agrees with you.
https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1OyKAjXpwEeGb
The FBI response is totally bizarre. They dithered back and forth all day to formulate some unintelligible response.
Who the hell was responsible for yesterday’s bizarre messaging?
Why are top layer FBI agents still working at the agency? They are corrupt as hell. The whistleblowers risked life and limb for nothing– not even under this administration.
In addition, a secret service member was suspended for inappropriate remarks about Charlie Kirk’s death.
I wish like hell that DJT would hire private
Security with loyalty to him.
I am very temperamental– throw in some judgemental along with it. Still, it just isn’t in my heart to either wish, or post, my delight in another person’s assassination.
*That’s reason #1 why Hillary and I are diametric opposites.
Half this country have
misplaced their souls,
their humanity.
God help us as a nation.
Did Patel or Bongino speak?
No.
And no questions allowed this time.
Previous press conferences questions stopped after a couple minutes.
Based on what I know now, it was an IC hit.
No. And I heard this morning from either Lawrence Jones or Brian Kilmeade (not a fan of either but that’s all I have in the car ride), that Patel and Bongino went to Utah because the agents there were not properly communicating with them. I think that lead agent is totally out of his league. Looks like some Ivy League hand picked loser that most definitely leans left based on his mannerisms..
Maybe Blondi will go on Fox?
I am not saying he didn’t but then nobody saw him because that would be mighty suspicious. The scope you could take off as there are mounts now days that allow that and use the smallest clip, probably 5 shells which would be almost flush, and you might do it, but without suspicion would surprise me. And isn’t the video of his exit not his entrance?
That would make sense he would want to get the rifle away as quickly as possible and to destroy it and hide the pieces, especially the barrel, bolt’s shell ejector and firing pin.
They have pictures of him limping trying to hold the gun in his pant leg.
Or he’s limping from exiting the roof. Hit the ground pretty hard.
I saw that video from TMZ, funny how there is no video of perp doing the limp walk getting on top of the building.
What are the odds that this persons’s complete social media footprint has been scrubbed. Suspicious Cat thinks something is awry.
I said all these things last night while watching the video on stupid Hannity’s show. I was listening to all 3 FBI agents and not one of them put 2 and 2 together as you have. Finally, Hannity does, and the one agent says, “What an astute observation!”. Boy if this is our best and brightest, we have a problem (which we already knew we did).
The best and brightest are no longer joining organizations like the FBI. Those who need bureaucracy and limited individual and independent action are those now taking these gigs. CYA works isn’t for independent thinkers in any way.
The rifle was recovered. The feds have it.
Now is the time to stand, to stand strong but not to go off half cocked. I pray no one will play tit for tat and send our entire country into chaos.
Stand firm.
The country is already in chaos.
Beat is Hallelujah course in a canadian food court 2010. Wouldn’t be allowed now.
Or for fun music, doe re me in antwerp train station in 2009. Again, probably not allowed now.
Couple teens at end of food court video can be seen mouthing (can’t hear them), “that’s cool”.
I think food court one was a local college music department or something like that.
Antwerp Station Doe Re Me. One of my favorites.
A few family members & I played a game called “Imposter” with a young friend – the answer topic is known to a few & unknown to one or more ‘imposter’ – every person around the table has to give brief clues – one word or few-word phrases…
one answer topic was
“FlashMob”
Our young friend didn’t know what that is… so thanks for reminding me that I promised to send her some examples – your ‘Ode To Joy’ was #1 of several and I’m eager to hear about her impressions of discovering FlashMobs.
I included this one – a favorite song of mine, a little different sung with a German (?) accent!
IN HONOR OF WHAT SCHOOLING IS TURNING OUR CHILDREN INTO The Old Bait-&-Switch
The Commander in Chief is surely not pleased with this sad development:
“The campus of the United States Naval Academy (USNA) is on lockdown Thursday evening as law enforcement officials investigate reports that a gunman has shot three people. One report indicates that a midshipman who had been kicked out of the school returned to the campus and is going door to door pretending to be with the military police.”
https://redstate.com/terichristoph/2025/09/11/breaking-gunman-at-naval-academy-n2193862
He thought Kamala was President…
Black Secret Service employee who called Charlie Kirk racist, blamed karma for assassination put on leave
The Secret Service put an employee on leave who made an inflammatory social media post about conservative icon Charlie Kirk after the 31-year-old was tragically assassinated on Wednesday, bashing those who are mourning his death.
Anthony Pough, an employee of the protective agency, had shared a clip of Kirk suggesting that Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson, former Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-Texas), and others were “affirmative action picks” because they “weren’t smart enough to get in on their own.”
“If you are Mourning [sic] this guy .. delete me. He spewed hate and racism on his show,” Pough wrote in a Facebook post on Thursday, first reported by RealClearPolitics.
https://share.google/BMD3QPzZNM5QmG08q
i”m concerned.
Are you scared too? 🤔
“affirmative action picks” because they “weren’t smart enough to get in on their own.”
whoever might think that …
… is not wrong
His career is done for, as it should be.
Been reading on many other sites about people being outed/ fired for their
celebrating Kirk’s death. There’s been a high degree of success: one guy found 300
postings, and 15 of them had been fired by their bosses.
Remember the doofus who antagonized the gal at the Chic Fil A window a few
years back? Harrassed an utterly innocent girl who was completely apolitical, and then
proudly filmed himself being all liberal and superior? The guy had a 6 figure job, and
wound up loosing everything for making that video. The amount of outrage directed at
him was off the chain.
Maybe we are seeing a repeat of that phenomenon here.
Fire him and surveil.
“Truth is ‘hate’ to those who hate the truth”
Candace Owens shares some personal, behind the scenes thoughts on her time with Charlie Kirk… some good stories and video clips in there…
“To My Friend, Charlie Kirk.”
Candace’s is the most beautiful tribute I have seen. She kept it pretty well until the end when she could not hold back the tears. I am so happy they remained friends despite the efforts to divide them. I especially loved their chat about whether he should marry Erika.
Yes, it was wonderful insight. I actually didn’t know they spent so much time together like that in the early days…
I agree with Dr. Malone’s analysis in this article about the assassination of Charlie Kirk he posted on substack.
https://www.malone.news/p/regarding-the-assassination-of-charlie?
AFTER Watching the MIS-APPLICATION and ABUSE of Dr. Malone’s discoveries on mRNA – Dr. Malone HAS SUFFERED Another Heart Break with the Loss of a Friend.
PRAYERS For HIM ALSO Need to Be Included, Along With Charlie’s Co-Workers.
A TRIBUTE to A Person’s LEGACY IS HOW MUCH They ARE MISSED.
For Their Missing Intellect, Their Humor or Personal Steadying Presence
.
THEIR TRUE LEGACY IS – DOES THEIR Past LEADERSHIP INFLUENCE – MOTIVATE OTHERS to CARRY ON in Their ABSENCE.
JMO.
The stage was being set all day for the FBI to identify the killer of Charlie Kirk.
It was implied by several of the “FBI experts” interviewed ……….
At minimum:
They have the shooter’s picture on video and he is not covering his face (facial recognition, check).
The shooter isn’t wearing gloves (fingerprint search, check).
The shooter’s activities should produce high quality DNA, aka holding the rifle, etc. (DNA search, check)
But, at the end of the day, no identification was made.
Why? Questions have to be answered.
Was this a cartel hit targeting one of America’s political parties’ leaders?
Was the foreign shooter flown in shortly before the shooting and flown out shortly after the shooting?
All of the FBI’s bag of tricks won’t work because the shooter isn’t in any of their files.
Is this a terrorist act or an act of war?
President Trump, please move the investigation out from under bondi / patel (DOJ / FBI) …. over to Pete at The Department of War.
MAGA / America First isn’t just our motto, it is our duty!
I do not know what should be done. What I do know is that after 48 hours, it becomes exponentially difficult to find the killer.
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I am concerned that you might be right. All too convenient. Shooter looked like a skinny nothing in make-believe “American patriot” clothes… I have looked multiple times at the video of the shooter jumping down from the roof. Carrying both a backpack and rifle wrapped in a towel or terry sack. One kill shot, and a big jump — 12 feet? — Carrying something that could really stick you if you land a little wrong. That just doesn’t strike me as something someone does for the first time.
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ummm …
— everyone’s fingerprints are not on file … prints are not necessarily taken unless booked for a crime or applied for a job requiring security check or ID bearing fingerprint (and not all, just 1 thumbprint for many IDs)
— everyone’s DNA isn’t in DNA databases, it gets there because one has sent off for a test or it was taken for a criminal offense
so things are not as simple as “check it against a computer and ta-daaaaahhhhh”
nimrodman,
Thanks for the comment.
Sorry, I didn’t mean to imply that any of the searches would be easy to do, aka “ta-daaaaaaaaaa”.
Just that the killer didn’t seem too concerned about leaving an evidence trail …… was he careless or did he know that they couldn’t trace him? Time will tell.
He’s wearing classes, long sleeves (in Utah heat) and a cap. His features are obscured enough that – despite multiple photos – he hasn’t yet been apprehended. He also had to look fairly normal on a college campus.
I really don’t think this is the grand conspiracy people are making it out to be. I wouldn’t be a bit surprised if there’s more than one person involved, but suggesting cartel, or mossad, or deep state involvement is a bridge too far given the evidence at this point. (Not saying you’re doing that.)
one should always speculate different scenarios
that is one way the evil doers are caught
One can check on Ancestry/23andme for a familial match.
Doesn’t have to be 100% but through genealogy murder cases have been solved in the past
EVERYONE’s face is on camera.
The drip, drip, drip. That tells you all you need to know.
I agree with you but if you were in the Armed Forces your prints are on file. I doubt this guy served. DNA can be run though looking for family matches from criminal records, service records and commercial DNA tests like 123 and me. There is also medical genetic testing. The data base is bigger than most people think and they have already caught criminals that way. It is hard to hide for long in our current survalence state.
He appeared to have a cellphone in his front right pocket. That is usually helpful for those hunting him.
They found a palm print. So possibly a fingerprint and DNA
There is real evil in the world. True evil. And that evil is Control Freaks.
A Control Freak killed Charlie Kirk.
CK died advocating free speech and civil discourse. Control Freaks refuse to allow free speech.
Control Freaks are to blame for CK’s death. Sundance’s archive site is a catalog of Control Freaks abusing everyone for their own gain.
Control Freaks are evil
A photo of a foreign born man who hates America and loves Ukraine.
That is a Bolshevik.
Precisely. Maybe someone should cancel Passport..
Sundance, I plead with you to amplify that Charlie would have been one of our future Presidents. I MORN for my children that will live in a country that Charlie didn’t get to nominate supreme court justices, appellate court justices, Fed chairs, or cabinet members.
Greetings Treepers! 🙏✝️🙏
Charlie Kirk.
Christian Martyr. ❤️✝️❤️
Judge issues nationwide block on Trump policy that cuts off Head Start for people in US illegally
Excerpt;
In issuing the preliminary injunction Thursday, Judge Ricardo Martinez said he saw no reason for a change to the interpretation of eligibility that has been in place for decades. He said it threatened access to services that families rely upon.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/judge-issues-nationwide-block-on-trump-policy-that-cuts-off-head-start-for-people-in-us-illegally/ar-AA1MnbEn?cvid=68c37fcd692c42629db8fbe2c2da73bb&ei=16
“Judge Ricardo Martinez said he saw no reason for a change …”
I see a gigantic reason. About 20 million reasons.
Another rogue judge that needs discipline.
Where is Pam Bondi and the Surety Bonds for every single Article 3 Court injunction??
Why does President Trump tolerate this?
Pam was at the ballgame last night.
No more Sportsball for any of this Administration, period. No more distractions. No more pussyfooting. No more “having a good time”.. I don’t know what they think they are doing up there in the District Of Criminality, this Country is on the brink.
In Green Bay who played Washington? Or a Baseball game?
The change is intended to end services for illegals. The laws do not permit services for illegals. Bastardization of our laws have allowed your idiotic approach to proliferate. Americans voted to have that ended.
Nick Sortor
@nicksortor
🚨 BREAKING: The Carolina Panthers have FIRED their Communications Coordinator after he celebrated the assasslnation of Charlie Kirk on social media
The unemployment line is getting LONG today! 🔥
Cont…
How’s it feel to get fired, you P O S Charlie Rock ?!?!
I’m 59, probably lived a sheltered life. Of course it’s the universal presence of cameras too, but I’ve never seen anyone bleeding out so quickly from hit artery or similar. Now I’ve seen 2 in a week (Ukrainian refugee being othe).
There is a video out there of the full scene of that pulitzer prize picture of that Vietnamese colonel shooting the possible Viet CONgress guy shot in head. That is a rather sobering video of human anatomy and functions.
That bullet destroyed the spinal column. Dead instantly. The energy from that 30-06 could easily destroy the structure of the neck.
I’ve seen what 30.06 does to a prong horn antelope..
Hi Brant,
If you would like to talk about these things, I’m here.
Oops I added an “;”. Did that fix it?
I read the comments on an DailyKos article titled “I’ll tell you who I am.”
They deeply believe the world is a better place after Charlie Kirk was assassinated, feel the assassin did a service, and would feel the same if it was you or I killed in any convienient way.
Jesus said, “If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated Me first.” John 15:18
These are “teachers”:
https://nypost.com/2025/09/11/us-news/gleeful-school-teachers-celebrate-assassination-of-charlie-kirk-in-horrific-posts/
Please, whoever is in a position of authority in these instances, fire these maggots.
When I looked at my local school’s website to see what kind of programs they offered in the trades….. I noticed they had a Pride class with rainbow flags….. it’s no wonder children are as bad as they are mentally, the Nutjob lefties are indoctrinating them with our taxdollars at the schools.
If they would keep their relationships to themselves and not make it a matter of Marxist public policy, the world would be a much better place. I lived through how the public school groomed my younger daughter and the consequences were devastating.
The choice of who one has sex with (among consenting adults) is a private matter.
It does not rise to the level of trying to displace a symbol of our American nation, Old Glory.
And neither does the CIA-Ukrainian flag.
Sorry about your daughter, Chris. I often think to myself how difficult raising children is in this environment. Sad really.
Thank you, Dixie.
Wanted to ty and Dixie for the kind words for me. Thanks buddy.
I am so glad you are back. Without Maquis, the Treehouse has lost a limb. With Dutchman ill, we are perilously close to losing another.
We need you here, Colkitto.
Chris
glad you’re back
Authorities cannot identify the Charlie Kirk shooter if he is a foreigner and therefore completely unknown to locals in Utah.
If he is a Chinese military trained sniper, there would be no fingerprint file in the USA to identify him.
This also explains why the shooter was not particularly careful to wear gloves to hide fingerprints.
He is wearing sunglasses so his eyes cannot be seen.
He could be well-funded and might already have been airlifted out of the area by private jet.
The Chinese government has a tremendous incentive to foment a civil war in the USA.
Think about all the military-aged men from China who are on American soil.
They should be able to identify his DNA nationality Keep in mind how genealogical connections are made through DNA.
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE NEED TO DEMAND THE FBI RELEASE THE DNA NATIONALITY OF THE SHOOTER. I suspect they already have determined that information.
The authorities have a BIG problem in this shooting and I will be shocked if they can EVER identify the shooter. The huge reward they have offered and their focus on the public need to identify the person is a big clue they are not making progress on the shooter’s identity.
If this shooter is an American, they should already be closing in on the shooter’s identity.
This is what happens when you throw open a nation’s borders for years and have no vetting of hordes of foreign trespassers.
Depending on sources, always beware Op Mockingbird and their misdirection/deflection/projection.
Video: Intriguing Announcement on Kirk Assassin Hits Media – Foreign Intel Now Involved
https://www.westernjournal.com/video-intriguing-announcement-kirk-assassin-hits-media-foreign-intel-now-involved/
There was so much speculation yesterday, it made reading here difficult but treepers are pretty good at connecting the dots especially in these horrific situations. I hope Sundance got the underlying message to which many treepers alluded.
He’s got the typical build of the Asian men I see around…. they are generally skinny…. albeit some are built with a more Army/Marine build. China would definitely have a motive to take out a leading voice in the Conservative movement.
My ONE issue in believing this was another country is, why wouldn’t he have used a suppressor? If that gun hadn’t made noise, it would have given him such an easier escape. And suppressors aren’t hard to come by when you’re backed by a nation state.
First person I talked to at work who is 23 and a huge PDJT supporter and Charlie Kirk follower, showed me this on his phone.
“JUSTICE FOR CHARLIE, FIRE PAM BONDI!”
This gets pushed out of the Operation Mockingbird news cycle by the political assassination of the Andrew Breitbart of the Millenial Generation, Charlie Kirk.
“Political assassinations” & 9/11 which upsets me every year. This also includes genuine researchers like my friend who exposed the 60’s hippie movement.
I’m scared C. If you take into consideration the MI_6 and all that goes along with it back to Aaron Burr. kWell. What to think.?
Am I wrong or have the British have a hard-on for Russia for ever and using Turkmen as tools?
Longes “European” war was Russio-jTurk” yes?
Not at all. If you have followed my Serbian posts over the years here I laid much of the reasons why from when the Orthodox Christian Russian people collapsed the Globalist/Baalists Soviet Liberal lunatic asylum. The 90’s wars against the Serbs and the Middle East Clean Break wars are really about taking out Orthodox Christian Russian allied nations, often times using their created golems which is Radical Islam. Its their creation. No finer example than Izetbegovic vs Abdic in Bosnia.
And most of that makes sense. Except “zetbegovic vs Abdic in Bosnia.”
Serioisly. I look at things in black/white
Muslims are Evil, so are Communists. Christ is King.
I’m just trying to understand.
Izetbegovic was a radical islamist jihadist who the Clinton Admin/NATO allowed Iran to illegally ship weapons and trainers, and Saudi Arabia to send money and Jihadists, 2 of whom went on to do 9/11 after learning terrorism by murdering Bosnian Serbs and secular Bosnian Muslims of Abdic. Abdic was a secular Bosnian Muslim Industrialist.
“But another reason it was not genocide against Muslims is that the Serbs were allied with another group of Bosnian Muslims on the western side of Bosnia, whose leader was a secular Muslim, Fikret Abdic, who was originally more popular than Izetbegovic, got more votes. So the genocide label is absolutely absurd, and yes I’m a genocide denier because it’s not true.”
https://www.counterpunch.org/2015/07/16/denying-the-srebrenica-genocide-because-its-not-true-an-interview-with-diana-johnstone/
Oh, and Baalists were ensconced int the “New World” yes? 3,000 years ago?
Mayans and Cherokee (and come to think of it, the Hinduist who have taken over Califorinia?)
Child Sacrifice. Evil.
Im sorry if that came across as flippant, but I am quite serious.
Excerpt From Kamala’s new book,
I’m a member of a different sorority, Alpha Kappa Alpha, the first Black women’s Greek-letter organization, founded at Howard University in 1908. But these women are my sisters, too. We’re all part of the Divine Nine, the Greek organizations founded when segregation was law in the South and standard practice in the North. W. E. B. Du Bois and Thurgood Marshall were early members of the first Black fraternity, Alpha Phi Alpha, founded at Cornell University in 1906. The Divine Nine has been an engine of uplift for generations of Black college men and women, instilling a love and celebration of excellence, philanthropy, and service to all mankind. My Divine Nine family would show up for me throughout the campaign. That day I was so pleased to see the young president of Phi Beta Sigma, Chris V. Rey, and the esteemed president of Delta Sigma Theta, Elsie Cooke-Holmes.
https://archive.ph/PbsOx#selection-701.0-701.875
Prince Hall Freemasonry is the oldest African American Masonic organization. It aimed to foster racial uplift, mutual aid, and social justice.
https://www.searchablemuseum.com/prince-hall-masons/
Ty RJH. Masonry is the driver and has been
The UK/English intell agencies were infamous for blowing up buildings and murdering people in the North of Ireland and blaming it on the IRA. They also ran the UDF/UVF/IRA to create the strife running both sides, the classic Hegelian Dialectic operations. The Miami Show Band Murders documentary exposes the UDF/UVF side of the HD.
Thanks for the discussion mate.
Slàinte
THE BUSH FAMILY EVIL FROM PRESCOTT BUSH TO GW TO W BUSH
How Bush’s grandfather helped Hitler’s rise to power
Rumours of a link between the US first family and the Nazi war machine have circulated for decades. Now the Guardian can reveal how repercussions of events that culminated in action under the Trading with the Enemy Act are still being felt by today’s president
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar
This is one of the best pairings ever. Charlie and Pat.
https://x.com/DanDicksPFT/status/1965992790032343200?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1965992790032343200%7Ctwgr%5E89bf6ed1878f230559f20c546906d178d184400c%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftheconservativetreehouse.com%2F
I watched them rob the 1996 GOP Primaries from the America First candidate Pat Buchanan. ChinaGate money played a large role in the 1996 election theft.
Was Buchanan Robbed in Louisiana, Iowa, Arizona?
Even the AZ Governor, Senator McCain Congratulated Buchanan on Victory, “Prematurely,” It Turns Out
https://www.truthinmedia.org/Bulletins/tim96-03a.html
Time is not on our side for straightening out this vote tabulation nightmare. And while we’re at it Free Tina Peters!
She was my first thought too, Jinxy………
I remember that Arizona primary. I had been rooting for Buchanan and thought he had a good chance, until I saw a news photo of him holding a rifle above his head. Nothing wrong with that, of course, unless you’re a candidate already called an extremist by your opponents.
@EricLDaugh
Sep 8
BREAKING: ICE has just arrested a KENYAN national who is a convicted s*x offender in Minnesota… …who was a former DIRECTOR at the Minnesota Department of Education.
WTF is going on in Minnesota?
https://nitter.poast.org/EricLDaugh/status/1965048403731390523#m
Two words: Tampon & Timmy
Like NY, Minnesota is a red state, dominated by a large urban center thoroughly populated with straight up communists. This was the case even back in the 1980s. Look up which states Walter Mondale won.
Tampon Tim is pretty representative of white males in that party now, but MN has been hardcore left for generations.
Tampon Tim is not a real man. He is a sissified idiot who acts like a clown when the spotlight is on him.
Those toxic liberal women all over the country are giving real men a bad name. JMHO
Someone earlier this morning put flash mob of one to joy. I replied with 2 of the best. Will put them here too.
Hallelujah Chorus in canadian food court. 2010
Do de mi anntwerp train station 2009.
2 things we may never see again. I show the do re mi to kids to show what good music is.
The first made me cry. Not even sure why. Thank you for posting these.
I haven’t seen people that happy in years. And yes, it is something to cry about.
Roughly a week ago, I posted a comment about a Finnish economist worried that Finland was being armed to become the next Ukraine and how they’re planning to trap the U.S. into war with Russia.
So, when I saw this article, I thought, “uh oh, here we go.”
https://europeanconservative.com/articles/news-corner/stubb-visit-kyiv-sanctions-russia-kachka-hungary-szijjarto-criticism/
It Looks like they’re starting the Finland gaslighting phase. In this article, they’re presenting Finnish President, Alexander Stubb, as being tight with Trump: “Stubb, a close European confidant of U.S. President Donald Trump…”
Yeah, right. Trump didn’t even recognize him a few weeks ago when Stubb crashed the post-Anchorage party at the White House. Now he’s suddenly a “close European confidant.”
I find this disturbing. If the CIA and it’s European warmongering contingent really do start a second-front of war with Russia just to entrap the U.S., I’m going to be furious.
https://youtube.com/shorts/EeQoF7FB66s?si=85DXcapjmTacQs3v
We still know nothing about Crooks.
PBD says exactly what I am thinking–if the murder of Charlie was done by foreign entity to foment Civil War there may be a “retaliatory” murder against the equivalent person from the Left–the writing on the shell casings and all of the odd behaviors of people in the crowd are too scripted IMO.
There is no equivalent on the left. Not even close. But he isn’t wrong with the premise.
I was thinking the same thing, no equal on the left. Of course they don’t need a single person when they have all the institutions in their palm. Not naming specific, but you know them and their water carriers.
THE DEMOCRAT PARTY ARE NOT A POLITICAL PARTY.
THEY ARE A DOMESTIC TERRORIST ORGANIZATION MASQUERADING AS A POLITICAL PARTY
One of the most humanly sad moments was the assignation of Charlie Kirk. I can see his daughter running to her Dad so excited she could hardly contain herself with glee and anticipation. It really breaks my heart that little girl and her Dad will never have that very, very surreal emotion again. Truly, truly so sad.
I feel for Charlie’s wife dealing with that awful gap in her young life while trying to raise two children without their father. My heart is heavy with grief for Charlie’s wife and children. God Bless them.
Here is a good read about the big brother surveillance, this was my first read of the morning.
Flock Safety and the Kirk shooting
They know things about you …
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2025/09/flock_safety_and_the_kirk_shooting.html
Political Ponerology
“Political ponerology is a concept developed by Polish psychiatrist Andrzej Łobaczewski, derived from the Greek word poneros, meaning evil, and refers to the scientific study of the origins and mechanisms of political evil. Łobaczewski proposed that political systems can be infiltrated and dominated by individuals with psychological pathologies, such as psychopathy or other character disorders, leading to the formation of what he termed “pathocracies”—governments controlled by those lacking normal empathy and moral sentiment. His work, particularly detailed in Political Ponerology: A Science on the Nature of Evil Adjusted for Political Purposes, suggests that such individuals exploit political movements, including leftist or Marxist ideologies, to gain power and impose oppressive systems.
Some sources claim Łobaczewski’s research focused on Marxist elites and concluded that psychopathic traits were a unifying characteristic among them, suggesting a link between leftism and psychological pathology…”
What do you get when a group of mentally unstable people get taken over at the leadership level by psychopaths?
You get evil.
In a way, Charlie is a reflection of Christ.
He was the embodiment of all of the beliefs of those who ultimately facilitated and cheered his death.
He was what they claimed they aspired to be.
RIP