Twice the Trump DOJ has asked the courts to permit the release of names associated with the case against Jeffrey Epstein and the victims of sex trafficking therein. Twice the courts have denied the Trump administration the ability to release the sealed Grand Jury records. [August 20th] and [July 23rd]
Most of the various victims of Jeffrey Epstein’s sex trafficking operation have previously been paid victim compensation amid various lawsuits including a substantial $290 million financial settlement from JPMorgan Bank in 2023, one of the financial institutions used by Epstein. These lawsuits resulted in what has been reported as ‘various non-disclosure agreements’ (NDAs), which the victims signed.
After the DOJ and congress has released all of the available files, and with various courts refusing to break the seals on names and files within grand jury records, and against the background of multiple victims receiving considerable previous compensation, a group of Epstein victims held a press conference in Washington, DC today demanding the sealed names and NDA covered names be released.
The victims would not, most likely because they legally cannot, discuss the names; but they did say they would compile another private list of names of the people to whom they were trafficked. What the purpose of that private list would be is unknown. The entire thing now seems really weird. WATCH:
Some have claimed a comprehensive list of the names in grand jury files or prior lawsuits would include Donald Trump. However, it seems ridiculous to make that assertion given the profile of President Trump in 2016 and 2024.
If there was any risk to President Trump, the Clinton campaign would have exploited that vulnerability during the height of the MeToo movement in 2016. Assuredly, even without Clinton, the Kamala Harris campaign would have used that narrative in 2024. Neither political opposition effort ever engaged in such a claim.
The Occam’s Razor review of the current state of Epstein victims’ status, is one that points toward extortion. The victims having previously signed agreements, would be at legal risk to violate their various NDAs. However, for the purposes of structuring a political narrative, there are likely revenue sources willing to fund an ongoing victim narrative.
I suspect the lawyers representing the victims in the video (press conference) are likely compensated by the same entities who fund large domestic political operations. The “Republicans” who align with the intention of the efforts, seem to hold a commonality with the same financial interests behind former Republican candidate Ron DeSantis.
The victims now seem more akin to political operatives looking for some kind of secondary payday by maintaining a story they are not legally permitted to advance in specific ways.
The victim group continually says they will not name the people to whom they were trafficked, which is strange considering the high visibility of their performance and their obvious demand to release grand jury names that could be settled by their own statements releasing names. Additionally, their claims of imminent fear do not resonate truthfully against the backdrop of their quite happy presentation.
The DC event seems like a leverage game of sorts, with some financial benefit as the goal for the victims. For the DC politicians, perhaps a construct to position themselves for some electoral benefit. All of it rather unseemly.
There also appears to be a media management operation happening with the group. MSNBC appearance below:
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If an Epstein story was a threat to Trump, do you really think Clinton would have exhausted so much energy on fabricating Russia?
Think about it. Duh.
— TheLastRefuge (@TheLastRefuge2) September 3, 2025
Eh, sorry but this is goofy. Why doesn't each victim just start by saying, "Hi, my name is XXX and I had sex with XXX".
No need for lists, just say who you had sex with. https://t.co/XLOSTZpQym
— TheLastRefuge (@TheLastRefuge2) September 3, 2025
People refused to listen
this has become an obvious dem/sea island trap. Forbes runs headline with an alleged victim saying “Epstein bragged about Trump being his best friend”
Massie is spearheading it. Majority of dems want it released. Most corrupt dem justice department in the history of the US held it for 4 years… duh
The Epstein story was sensationalized by the media and it’s not at all what the media is making it out to be. Unfortunately too many Republicans (and Democrats) didn’t read the documents that were already released. None of them would be out there holding hearings and demanding more documents if they just read the documents that were already released. All they have to do is read the testimony the girls gave to the detectives.
Correct. It’s been obvious for anyone willing to push back against the typically sensational YouTube conservatives
When anyone says “Epstein” just post the following (feel free to copy/paste everywhere):
1. When the Bush administration was cutting a sweetheart deal with Epstein and Clinton was flying to Epstein’s Island, Trump was kicking him out of his club for his activities recruiting young women.
2. When the women filed a civil suit and a bunch of big fish were lawyering up, Trump was the ONLY person to talk directly to the girl’s attorney and provide useful info to help the girls’ case.
3. The Obama admin did NOTHING about Epstein.
4. During Trump’s first term, his DOJ arrested, prosecuted, convicted, and sent Ghislaine Maxwell to prison.
5. During Trump’s first term, his DOJ arrested Epstein, who died (one way or the other) in jail while awaiting trial.
6. Auto-pen did NOTHING about Epstein.
7. During Trump’s second term, his DOJ retrieved all the Epstein files from Southern District NY and filed to release the grand jury documents and testimony.
During the last 15 years, Donald Trump has been the main high-profile figure to do everything in his power to stop Epstein and save those girls!
Thank you so much. Over the years of the endless Epstein coverage I’ve noticed that conservative men are as eager to defend Epstein and denounce the girls as the democrats.
Especially those who don’t know the difference between the age of consent and the crime of being a prostitute whether age 8 or 80 the crime of paying a prostitute for sex and pimping and procuring
I must say this is one time I question Sundance’s view nearly 100%. Is is not possible these ladies at conference and their lawyers and friends are seeking just what they say they want-accountability and justice and a reclamation of their personal dignity!!
Did anyone listen to these ladies speak and tell their story-listen and feel their heartfelt emotions?
I am sorry Sundance and my fellow treepers but I am naive and crazy enough to take these ladies at their word-that they were abused at young vulnerable age and now seek true justice-now seek to reclaim their self worth as God ‘s beloved children.
I listened to Congressman Green and she makes powerful good sense and speaks of justice. I want with these victims to see these sick perpetrators of abuse exposed for the world to see. I am disappointed with Trump that he keeps downplaying the inportance of this Epstein saga as some kind of Democratic hoax. I believe most of MAGA want to see the names out of the files-big or small let the tooth be out.
They made the big show with this presser yet they didnt; name drop anyone
but will go off an make a list of thier own.. I am beginnig to wonder if some on
X are right the ladies are looking for payoffs by threatening to name drop but not
doing so this was very sketchy..and no as a woman I will not believe all woman
especially when they put on a show like they did today.. that what they did. you had
these congress people all saying we would be outraged. the only outrage seems to
be that they didn;t name anyone. I dont;t deny things happened with Epstein but
this whole thing was very performative and did nothing to move things along
they could have named names TODAY wiht national news coverage but didn;t
Jenevive, just now finding time after bombshell from sundance yesterday.
Did you listen to ladies who spoke before actual conference presser formally began. These women-about 10 o r more were not putting on a show -they were sharing there souls and speaking of tragedy in their lives at the hands of Epstein and his accomplices in perversion. I believe it is cruel and highly presumptuous to accuse these women of just putting on a show for money or some book deal,etc.
As to naming names why should they speak of one or two folks when as a group they can nail a whole pack of sickies and do it with more credibility and some safety. I am crazy enough to trust my souls judgement that these ladies are not lying.
Call me naive or stupid -I call myself a child of God who has compassion on my sisters in Christ who seek simple justice for themselves and those who follow them.
Thank you so much
Do you believe that if a woman is out after 10 pm is raped it’s all her fault if she’s raped? Because she should have been safe at home and not out on the street?
Even if she’s a hospital post office retail restaurant worker who works a 2 to 10pm or 3 to 11pm shift and has to be out on the street at those hours
You need to read the documents and their statements before just believing what they claim now. Green never read those documents because she would not have been out there flapping her gums if she did. It’s amazing what people will claim happened and how they will change their stories when millions of dollars are on the line. Read the documents, all of them.
Maggiemoo, with all due respect I say to hell with a bunch of legalese documents -I trust my heart and my eyes and my own ears!!! I listened to these women and I believe them to be speaking the truth from their hearts. Documents can lie and mislead as we all know-but I trust my own judgement and eyes. I believe these women and my heart goes out to them.
As to MT Green I love this women and respect her in many ways as a true patriot and huge MAGA warrior. I pray Trump wises up here and calls the bluff of Dems and opens up the files.
I believe these ladies will do as they say-begin naming names if files are not released with names. They have not spoken names yet but there is strength in numbers and names will come from the group as a whole.
Seriously? After watching it myself, I am _far_ more in accord with Sundance’s conclusion than I ever would have been if I hadn’t seen it…
Did you even read the post?
The Trump DOJ is asking judges to unseal the testimony, and judges are refusing to do it. You are acting as though PDJT is the one holding up the release. it is not him.
Also in the post – these victims have taken financial settlements and signed non-disclosure agreements in exchange for the money. They took the money in lieu of exposing their victimizers. It was their choice to take the money.
MTG is a MAGA warrior – LOL at that. She’s all about self promotion, as is Massie.
Massie is one of the very few not being bribed by a foreign nation.
Bull on that. Massie is a slime and needs to change parties, he is not a Republican, much less MAGA.
I guess his relationship with Pushaw means absolutely nothing with regard to possible controllers.
What does that have to do with him being all about self promotion?
Makes no difference.
He doesn’t have an aipac handler. That doesn’t mean he’s not bought off by another source.
Or maybe he’s just got a gigantic ego, and is using all of these girls to self promote. Make him feel important, like he has something on PDJT.
He is driven by his own sense of superiority.
Mr MIT genius with few social skills needs to show how much smarter he is than PDJT.
Guy is a loser.
YOu need to read this-Massie and Paul both owned by Zionists. https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1963296367046001001.html
FP I read and see courts denied the names. So the ladies are saying to DOJ /IC you clearly have the files and many -release them. To hell with the courts. The courts are protecting the perverts.
Feelings can get you into a lot of trouble. In fact it’s one of the main currencies of the left.
Feelings can be big problem for sure-like allowing you to fall hopelessly in love with a lady and thus opening your heart to brutal heartbreak. By all means don’t listen to your feelings or give them much head if you wish to preserve your peace of mind and save yourself the horrors of a broken heart.
But if you are an adventurer and rather childlike then listen to those feelings and let them fly when your God says yes .
Why would we want to be “rather childlike” and give our feelings free reign? This sounds like gibberish and not the thinking of a rational person. Each of us was given a brain by God to use. It sounds like you have been overcome by “feelings” rather than earnestly praying for discernment.
Joan, and what did our savior say about the children when apostles tried to pull them away from Him.
“Let the children come to me and do not hinder them,for the kingdom of belongs to such as these”.
And elsewhere “Whoever does not recieve the kingdom of God like a child shall not enter it”
Yes I will follow my loving, childlike God and savior all the way to kingdom-by following his words . Peace Joan.
I’m not asking you to believe what someone wrote, i’m asking you to read their own testimony that the girls gave to the detectives. It’s in those documents. If you read the 943 documents, you’ll understand all of this, it’s a real eye opener. I felt the same as you until a few months ago, after reading the documents. I always liked MG, but she is flat out wrong here. She is calling for something that does not exist. If she read the documents and interviews, she would have already known this.
So, you think with your feels then, eh?
Got it.
Scot, no I think with my mind and feel with my heart . I listen to both just as my God does.
Like all the Me-Too women. Sorry, but believe all women is DOA.
not buying what you’re selling. Your language sounds eerily deep state/maga bomber hoax.
More like Q.
I am selling Jesus and the truth Little Red. Jesus wept and died for us sinners . He was a lover with intense feelings. I am with him not this cold hearted world of Satan.
If they wanted that then they would name names and file police reports alleging specific crimes by specific people. But they are obviously NOT doing that. They have all been paid a lot of money to keep their moths shut, and they happily took that money. Yet now they seem to be trying to do an end-around the deal which they themselves made.
Too many current/former members of Congress/Senate are listed secretly on the payments given to those former employees of Govt staff/MSM sexually abused/assaulted in the past that would expose where all the taxpayer funds were given to and the amounts. Tax free income/hush money? The list is out there, there has to be accountability somewhere for millions of dollars to cover up the slime attitudes of lowlife congressmen/senators that think they have gotten away with crimes while serving in Govt. Just like the corruption of them receiving 10% of every spending bill they agree to sign off on/approve for Govt aid to foreign countries with little to no oversite governance/military appropriations/”loans” given to foreign countries, the billions that DOGE uncovered yet the Congress/Senate refuse to codify/clawed back and show as being illegally spent, no one is willing to step up and agree that the taxpayer funds are being carried out from Treasury by the semi-truckload while taxpayers are being fleeced every, single day by Govt approved audits, looking the other way as our current deposits increase hourly into the $TRILLIONS.
And why aren’t MTG and Massie going after their congressional peers who have paid out money to hush their victims.
That seems way more important of a cover-up than this Epstein stuff.
Are you saying MTG is complicit in some kind of conspiracy?
No. I just think she is an unprincipled, attention-seeking loser.
Like she just wanted to be seen at the press conference.
I’d bet none of these young girls at the time had any problems with the gifts and cash and shiny things dangled in front of them.
Any photographs of any of these girls at the time show exactly how they were happy in what they were doing.
“Believing” all women has proven in the past to be the wrong thing to do because lying has become a big part of most people’s lives when they have something to gain $$$$
Which is why you shouldn’t vote.
“Did anyone listen to these ladies speak and tell their story-listen and feel their heartfelt emotions?”
Emotions? MSM fanning the flames? Ladies pretty much say “we know who they are but we’re not going to tell ya”. Have you asked yourself “why is that”?
There is a reason they have kept quiet on these names for all this time. There is a reason the MSM is pushing this.
If Trump were in any danger at all from this “name gathering”, we’d already have heard about it LONG AGO.
From what Trump was trying to communicate but was disjointed, than dismissive, was that like the Russia hoax, those that had the files the last 4 years, had added, deleted and changed many of the documents to create the image of Trump’s greater involvement than what actually transpired. You can accept that or not. And i believe many of the same people are involved in the election and various traps set for PDJT.
What part of the COURTS won’t allow the release have you missed? Trump ordered everything that could be released, be releaed. DOJ just turned 30,000 pages over to Congress. Trump was the man who blew the freaking whistle on Epstein in Florida, and led to his arrest there.
They only now discovered they have been abused? Why did they sign the NDAs and cash the checks?
Because they’d be ruined by lawsuits which these powerful people would have surely launched against them? Or ended up like Virginia Guiffre?
And rightfully so.
They did not have to take the money. They did not have to sign the NDAs. Why now? Why this moment in time?
Good question.
Watch a few western movies – especially the oldie Clint Eastwood movies. Look at human nature at work when somebody has been seriously hurt, deeply wronged, and wants revenge – wants the abuser to suffer.
Revenge is a powerful motivator.
Revenge of the sort these women feel for what they’ve experienced just might be a stronger motivator to set things right in their own eyes than any financial bribe.
They might just want the ignoble whoremongers who defiled their lives to PAY.
With theirs.
They might be saying: You ruined my live, now it’s your turn.
Caddisfly, I believe you hit nail on the head . the ladies want true justice for the molesters and perverts.
the courts are not working, the politicians wont act, so these ladies will force action themselves.
Thank you so much I suspect many of these conservative men confusing prostitution laws with the age of consent. I won’t say what I suspect then of. I’ll just say stay away from my middle school daughter
…. There’s only trillions. Millions. Thousands. At stake
Looks like the publicity is worth more than the actor’s fees.
We gonna need more actors/ call the SAG
I’m almost proud of myself for not knowing the answer to this question, but —-
Are these “victims” the same individuals who have already been compensated? All of them? Some of them?
Are there a number of victims who have NOT been paid? Are they among THIS bunch?
Finally….how did these payoffs happen, and yet not a single “payer” was charged for trafficking or something?
So they had a public platform, a microphone and new coverage but couldn;t
name drop anyone but can go off in secret and make a list of names?
if saying the name is slander then so is writing them down on
paper without proof of context..
I speculate this is a dem charade where they pretend to make a list and then names can be strategically “leaked” from the imaginary list. I’m sure Schiff would be up to the leaking task.
“We will begin compiling a list…”
There are way too many easily distracted sheep out there!
Ladies, it ended when you signed an NDA and took the cash for your own silence.
Exactly – end of story.
Epstein specialized in blackmail and extortion, and it now seems that his so-called “victims” do, too.
To wit:
(1) The victims would not, most likely because they legally cannot, discuss the names;
(2) but they did say they would compile another private list of names of the people to whom they were trafficked.
In other words: (1) We cannot tell the truth; but (2) We are ready to lie, knowing that it’s “their word against ours” but we hope to be the titillating ones.
And: (3) Well, you know who “3” is. Or so they will say. Because it always finally comes down to “3.” Everything these days does.
It’s cheap, and dirty, and underhanded, and probably illegal. But, par for the course.
And I hope that, in due time, “3” and his team of lawyers will respond appropriately.
C’mon NBC , you could have found other ways to bash Trump with every other question. You are losing it.
Did NBC ask all the prior administrations who did nothing about this, Obama and Biden. Huh? Or just bash Trump now.
Nope, just more TDS on parade.
After reading the 943 unsealed documents that were released last year, I don’t believe any of these women. The woman who made herself famous by claiming to have had sex with Prince Albert (Virginia Roberts) lied more than Maxwell in her deposition, thankfully she was called out on her lies, but unfortunately she had told those lies to the media. Most of the women were questioned by the detectives and almost all said they kept returning to give Epstein massages(and only Epstein) because the money was good. Some recruited friends because they would make even more money if they recruited someone. Girls returned many times and some hundreds of times over a few years. None were forced to do anything and were not forced to return according to their own testimony. They only left their phone number if they wanted to be called back again to make more money. It’s all in those documents.
If I was in High School and someone offered me $200.00 to give a massage to some old guy at his house, I would have told my parents and then we would have called the police. That didn’t happen with none of these girls, they took the offer and some even got their parents to drive them to his house. What does that tell you about all these people. I think the group of Attorneys representing these women need to be investigated.
Your backing up pretty much what Maxwell stated in recent depo.
They asked about PDJT many times always same answer, he was a gentleman.
Read the 943 documents that were unsealed and released in 2024. It’s all in the girls actual statements. It is mind blowing because I always thought they were forced to do things and kept against their will and that wasn’t the case at all according to the girls. Then reading Virginia Robert’s deposition was even more mind blowing. I always felt sorry for her, but she lies so much during her interview and the attorney calls her out about her lies and she tries to explain why she lied with more lies. It’s really hard to believe a word of her testimony after that. The documents are a good read if you want to really understand what happened.
Agree.
Prince Albert? Which Prince Albert do you mean? The first one was Queen Victoria’s husband One of her sons and many grandsons and great grandsons were named Prince Albert.
If Trump was really a pedo (as the TDS inflicted are screaming) then are we to
believe that the Trump hating FBI and the Hysterical Dems kept that info quiet
and didn;t use it (they would have known such for years) to stop Trump in
2016 2020 or 2024 or to put him jail which they so badly wanted to do for
any crime known to mankind but we are suppose to beleive they kept this
quiet.. yeah ..ok..
Exactly. Whatever they cook up now is just lame brained and going to sound as phony as can be.
It’s ridiculous! It’s such obvious horse crap to hurt Trump and they are counting on the people of our country to be idiots and believe this! They know if they just talk about it 24-7 and keep pounding the public with this story many will believe it and many more will experience mass psychosis and start to believe it! It’s just another hoax,psy op.
Why didn’t NBC ask why both Elon Musk and Tucker Carlson ask on live TV if a certain well-known TDS Democrat money bags was going to be very nervous once the Epstein files were made public.
Not even a hint of curiosity, NBC. Nor even a hint of a lawsuit by this well-known named individual against Musk or Carlson for engaging in that speculation..
Massie is a snake and has been out to damage PDJT if he can. I hope this boomerangs right back in his face.
once again for those in the back….
this story remains IMPORTANT, not because of the salacious sex and grime and girls and what not. the people who keep making it about that have an agenda to GET someone, period.
it is important because it is a critical example, like russiagate, in determining whether we are in control of “our” government or not.
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Or they have their own runaway dirty minds. Because Epstein did some nefarious financial stuff, and they could presumably, make some political hay with that.
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Was the USG is involved in covering up for Epstein? I’m thinking yes. I feel for the victims but I want whatever government entities were used to provide cover for this creep exposed. National security doesn’t extend to providing cover for pedophiles.
Thank you!
Some people are too obsessed with the team sports and not with the underlying issue here. If we have individuals that are being blackmailed who are in a vast swath of society — wouldn’t that be a critical problem? This is not about Trump, or blue vs red. Only die hard partisans think like this. Majority of people in this country aren’t in that camp.
I suspect the victims want the names of their abusers to come out but are silenced by their NDAs. They took the payout but they still want retribution. This is a way they might be able to have both.
Personally, I would like to see the names of the Johns so that they can be removed from positions of power with respect to government. I honestly do not care about those outside of positions of power in the government. We can’t have clean governance if the Senate, the House and the judiciary are riddled with men who abuse children or teens. Sunlight removes the capacity for bribery and for blackmail.
Unless there is ACTUAL proof of misconduct, it’s all hearsay. Why should I believe what anyone says about misdeeds if there is no concrete, PROVABLE, UNALTERED evidence? At the moment, this is theater for the sheep…..
Jerry Springer goes to Washington………
(duh)
By claiming to have their own list it alows for media speculation to run rampid. Meaning the Trump narative will remain alive as long as the list is never released. We all know this is another in the long list of hollyweird production and payments.
They could start with a list of everyone associated with the investigation and then name those who are not rapists.
How about they give the NDA money back and then name the names?
They already signed the NDA. That is the end of it. They don’t get to change their minds and decide much later on that they took a bad deal.
I want to read the evidence that these women were beaten, chained, enslaved to have sex with
whomever.
much of it seems like a money grab to me.
And my apologies to anyone who was raped, etc. for real.
We know you exist and we know it was horrible
Gloria Allred on board? That’s a tell!
Really?
That’s definitely a swipe of Occam’s old razor…
Just a Democrat ploy to drum up more attention.
I guess they were better looking when they were younger.
You do know that one of the specific tracks of the democrats is legalizing paid sex work for underage girls (and boys). RBG said age 9 was enough for consent and Nancy Pelosi said paid sex work was as an honorable career for young women. I don’t get what the whole deal is about for democrats because it rings very hollow. They already got paid far more than as a cashier at K-Mart.
Perhaps they are looking to end up online with a big cash following. I hear some girls are getting piles of cash doing so, and I don’t even know whether they need to take their clothes off for it.
Bizarro World…
Massie is at war with the President. Obviously, he doesn’t care what we think.
.DeSimps.
The lawyers shut down the reporter asking about Dersowitz. Garbage their parents contributed to them being prostituted and most were over 18. So cry a river, shame on you for trying to extorture more money. Just name the names to hell with NDAs then the real truth can be exposed. Otherwse go back to your PTSD and families.
They weren’t over 18 by 17 they were aging out of Epstein’s stable. He only used very north European genetics girls because they are the last to go through puberty first menstruation age 14 instead of 12. And short his height limit was 5’6 preferably shorter. And thin flat chested and small hips. Preferably child looking not blooming busty teens.
Seems that conservatives confuse age of consent with prostitution laws as much as progressives do. When they advocate lowering the age of consent to 6 and transgender operations for little children
It won’t die because government agencies have gone to so much trouble to cover it up. IF Trump used Jeff’s services, the deep state would have impaled him on it. The media love to suggest that Trump used Jeff’s girls. All they could do in make up BS about pee and Moscow hotel and Putin’s puppet. This circus would all stop if somebody would leak the names of those who used Jeff’s services. Who is so important that they have to keep it a secret? Maybe the trafficked girls just want another pay day. They know who did what to them, damn the NDA, many in DC ignore the Constitution, immigration laws, criminal laws etc. What’s an NDA in an atmosphere of lawlessness of many in power doing whatever they like?
Doesn’t the entire world already know it’s Bill #1, Bill #2, and Prince Andrew (who settled a lawsuit publicly)?
There may be others, but aren’t those the big fish?
Seems to me like another of those Emperor Has No Clothes moments…
I agree with Sundance’s analysis. My sense initially was that this was a PSYOP. If the survivors want to name names, they could do so, but as Sundance says, they are unable to, by various NDAs. This issue was used the last time in a patent effort to split MAGA up. It is like any issue that Thomas Massie supports: it divides up MAGA.
These women have already had their day in court.
They have been traumatized, and their trauma isn’t going to be automatically lifted if the predators are exposed and brought to justice. I empathize with their desire for help with their trauma, but I do not think the answer to their sense of shame will come from exposing the predators.
The only relief a person who has been traumatized can get is relief through bearing their feelings over time until they have a better perspective on them. If they do this, they will ultimately be able to get free from the pain of the trauma, and if they don’t do this, no matter how many predators are exposed and brought to justice, they won’t get emotional freedom from it.
I am left wondering who, specifically, benefits from this?
One of them said Trump wasnt in there as well as Virginia G i believe. But i think these ladies was what they deem Justice meaning high up People? Supreme Ct for one. Justice Scalia ws connected to the Ranch Epstein owned in Az or NM cant remember. Maybe its hard to understand if they only want Justice not Money, you would have to have been Abused, i have so i can think that may be some?
Wednesday, September 3, 2025 ☙ C&C NEWS
Excerpt:
Luna said “Slavic foreign governments were named working with Epstein.” What do you want to bet one of those Slavic foreign governments has a fake, corruptocratic president whose name rhymes with “Smellensky?” I’d bet Michelle’s Tahoe on it.
Don’t overlook the tweet’s significance: Luna dropped “international trafficking networks,” “immigration fraud,” the US Treasury, and Deutsche Bank. In other words, she described a state-sponsored, big-dollar, international conspiracy— not just gigabytes of grotesque child porn that ‘somehow’ found their way into the now-useless FBI files during Biden’s tenure.
Remember: Bondi never said there was no Epstein conspiracy. She just said that evidence wasn’t in the FBI files. It appears Republicans are quietly redoing the Epstein investigation, except properly and methodically this time.
– snip –
Does anyone really believe that Democrats’ fascination with this story happened on accident? Or because President Trump —whose DOJ arrested Epstein— really fears the facts? You really think Congressional Republicans like Anna Paulina Luna and James Comer are defying some Trump directive to “bury the Epstein story?”
It looks to me like the Epstein story is being disclosed, just slowly and painfully, and not in the way we’d pictured it. And somehow the Democrats have come onside with Republicans in demanding justice. It’s a kind of miracle.
https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/getting-off-wednesday-september-3?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=463409&post_id=172681717&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=ox7j4&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email
The first question under oath should be, who did you vote for?
This is the Pee Tape plot all over again.
Lead people to believe that something exists, when it actually doesn’t, and then claim there’s a cover up.
That’s my theory. Not that it is now….but it will turn into it.
The girls have already sued and received compensation or settlement agreements and NDAs.
however, corruption within our institutions handling this (FBI, DOJ, State offices, possibly political offices) have never been held accountable. Also, it does not appear possible financial crimes by Epstein were ever even investigated.
So, the dems will turn this into a sh*tshow….but something good may come from this if Repubs look into the prior untouchable (financial crimes, trafficking, intel asset connections).
Even a confidential disclosure among the girls of perpetrators would likely trigger a clawback or lawsuit to get back settlement money if found out. Didn’t stop Stormy Daniels though.
I also want all documents and names released of that House congressional fund that paid millions in sexual abuse settlements for congressional members. Just sayin’…..
Congress calls for Epstein transparancy. How about their own?
Is it possible that many of the incidents in the Epstein “files” and the incidents hidden by the Congressional fund are the same incidents?
Agree SD. Just say “Hi and this is who sexed me”. Be done with it.
Same goes for Brigette, just lift the dress. Be done with it.
The amount of democrats and the names of the republicans says it all. President Trump, in my opinion, is not a direct hit but a careful compiled casualty by the 2026 election. Who can say these are victims? We’ve seen people marched before us that weren’t. Kavanaugh faced them, President Trump has as well. Democrat tricksters at work.
There are photos of Maxwell and Epstein Island Carney together which have never been acknowledged by the Canadian media. Somebody is being bribed.
I think the women that spoke today were the RECRUITERS!!
1 epstein victim sold her sister to him.
2 epstein victim sold her friends to him.
The sellers went to the press conference.
The actual victims did not.
I can’t believe Chauntae Davies is claiming to be a victim, talk about a bunch of BS.
The Epstein list is used to control our political elite. Even Trump. You are not allowed to become high ranking withing the political class without engaging in behaviour which Epstein or Diddy and other of their ilk would film. This would give the existing elite a handle on you with which you can be controlled.
There is a list and it is dynamite. For everyone involved. On both sides of the aisle. It will never be made public because it would bring every sitting politician down. What we need to find out is why the elite turned on Epstein. Did he try and use his list to his own advantage and so upset carefully laid plans?
Clinton did not use the list for the same reason Trump will not publish it. It will bring way too many people down the Malthusian elite has spent years carefully positioning. They are using it as the bogeyman under the bed to control politicians who may be trying to set up for themselves in earnest now.
There is not a list, that is false. Read the documents, there are only about 7 men mentioned and the person who made the claims, has lied so much, nobody knows for sure if it is even true.
After Mossad put so much effort into establishing Epstein you can bet your bottom dollar there is an enormous and extensive list.
No list, not even close. Read the interviews that the girls had with the detectives. Do you know that only one underage girl claimed to be with a few different men, only one. Stories only changed after money could be made off claiming victimhood. Read the 943 documents that were unsealed and released in 2024. Tells you everything you need to know.
I don’t understand the point of ‘protecting’ the names of the victims, when the victims are on TV and video making speeches. Surely these women are no choosing to be anonymous?? And I agree with Sundance…..why not just say who you had sex with, rather than spewing about all the important and powerful people that are involved in this, but saying nothing? Just say who it was.
As a diehard MAGA if my teenage daughter was the one who had coerced sex with these politicians I would prefer her to take the money and be quiet. Money can always buy good therapy and she would be finacially ahead of the game.
After years investigating this matter, here’s what I can tell you today.
· Numerous high-profile names are on the Epstein Island flight logs, over a hundred. (There are additional records of many arriving by boat, instead of by plane)
· The first to be officially named by a victim is former President Bill Clinton, who was on the Island (and other Epstein locations) more than 25 times.
· Almost all of the names on the flight logs to Epstein Island are well-known “democrat” politicians, entertainment figures, judges, corporate giants, and others. There are very few “republican” names on the official flight logs.
· I cannot list everyone on those logs today, I wish I could. But one name in particular is not on any lists pertaining to Epstein Island or any other Epstein property engaged in illegal activities. That name is Donald J. Trump
· While Trump’s name appears in the broad List 1 of the thousands of people Epstein met over four decades, the Trump name does not appear on List 2 of visitors to Pedo Island.
However, this is how the game is played!
While we would all like to believe that both democrats and republicans calling for the names to be released are simply seeking true justice for those who participated in Epstein crimes, that isn’t the case.
Democrats seek to release List 1 because they know Trump’s name does appear there and they want to use that to tarnish and destroy Trump, while provided much needed cover for all of the democrats who were actually on List 2 and engaged in Epstein crimes.
The leftist-controlled media will attempt to place all focus on Trump, as will the thousands of Soros and DNC paid social media propagandists.
But when we focus only upon the people actually involved, it will be the final death-blow to what’s left of the democrat party. Everyone familiar with the true facts knows this…
And that’s why democrats will do everything in their power to drag Trump into the mix. They will either get the media to hang it all around Trump’s neck, while protecting their democrat friends, or they will go scorched earth in an attempt to burn everyone and everything down with their broad-brush accusations against those who were never involved.
For the record, I’m not posting this to support Trump. If Trump was actually involved with the democrats and Epstein, I would want him to hang too.
But truth must prevail and those actually involved are the only people who should hang for their evil deeds!
Lex Greene
NWV
Faux drama for the easily led brought to you by the faux outrage, faux maga crowd…
Epstein had property in each of these states and the US Virgin Islands. Legal age for adult activities in Florida in the year 2000 was 18 years, Legal age in NY in the year 2000 was 17 years, Legal age in New Mexico was 16 years and in the US Virgin Islands was 16 years. So if girls showed up to massage Epstein for money and they were of age, there aren’t going to be any documents because it wasn’t illegal. Florida is where most of the cases of underage girls were because legal age for sex was 18 at the time. My guess this is why they have to be careful with any documents that might be left.
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Prostitution is illegal. Also illegal is of-age girls in turn recruiting more for Epstein to play with. What d’ya do when it’s all being investigated? Claim victimhood.
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Yep, I agree
Aren’t these women just a wee bit embarrassed about what they did for money or an exciting lifestyle or whatever? I mean, were they threatened within an inch of their lives to have sex with men? I’m surely missing something here.
They were in their younger teenage years and a bit innocent to the world as it was/is. Think about all the young girls and boys who thought transitioning to the opposite sex might be the answer to their unhappiness. So many mistakes and embarrassments are made by very young teenagers.
@Sundance:
The fact that these women signed NDAs doesn’t mean squat.
Have you forgotten that many innocent people threatened with relentless lawfare, financial ruin and many years in prison have plead guilty?
Have you forgotten that, for example, Mike Flynn plead guilty after losing all his wealth and his son being threatened by the deep state?
Is it so hard to imagine that a victim would sign an NDA when faced with personal destruction by an immensely powerful person?
Unlike the fake accusers against Trump some of the ladies were very specific.
Granted, there may be political motivations and political games behind all of this but it does not preclude these women being real victims demanding justice.
Let’s release the court papers. Epstein is a distraction imo. As far as the dems wanting the files released really? come on where were the dems with wanting this released when it all happened…distraction! There is money behind this pushing this period. All I know is all of this is in God’s hands and when he calls it because man continues their devil, evil ways it will be the end!
Then you have Marjorie Taylor Green up there another distraction. This women who is anti Israel, well Marjorie good luck on that one. Eyes on Israel, God’s land. Read your bibles! These people are nothing but huge distractions from what is really going on.
Why, I wonder do we hold the rich and powerful to a different moral compass than our own. I get it that they are supposed to be held to higher account due to their public status and “responsibility”. Let’s be real though! – debauchery and perverseness has been the stuff of Kings, since Kings. It’s up for grabs as to how many of the woman involved were there by choice – certainly by today’s standards there doesn’t seem to be a shortage of willing participants. However it is almost certain that many if not most were “groomed/trained”, trafficked, sold, disposed of – just as today.
One just needs to open your eyes to see that in every large/major city/town in the world the same exists – just cheaper and not as “fresh”. Those wild nights on the town come with consequences and a history we don’t even think about. If this “sickness” is to be healed, we as men need to – have to take top responsibility – without us, there is no need. The only way we can do that is to recognize every being as a soul from God, to be treated with respect – just as we ask for ourselves. This is why this “weakness” is probably the number 1 weapon of the evil one – to strip all of us of that respect.
The DOJ’s Office of Professional Responsibility (OPR) already looked into the ethics of Acosta’s prior sweetheart deal for Epstein back in 2020.
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Flash from the past (2020):
Key takeaways from the Justice Department review of Jeffrey Epstein sweetheart deal
Excerpt:
the A 350-page report from the DOJ’s Office of Professional Responsibility (OPR), which was made public Thursday, determined none of the five federal prosecutors who were deeply involved in the Epstein investigation committed professional misconduct or violated any clear and unambiguous rules when they reached the deal without informing or consulting with victims.
Instead, the OPR report faulted former Labor Secretary Alexander Acosta, then the U.S. Attorney in Miami, for exhibiting “poor judgment” in deciding to resolve the Epstein case through a non-prosecution agreement…
https://abcnews.go.com/US/key-takeaways-justice-department-review-jeffrey-epstein-sweetheart/story?id=74222922
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Other highlights from the article:
–“The Lead Prosecutor & FBI Agents Repeatedly Pushed for Epstein’s Arrest but were Overruled by Senior Officials”
–“Acosta Decided to Make the Deal Before the Investigation was Complete”
–“Epstein Hired Multiple Lawyers with Personal Connections to the Prosecutors”
–“Acosta’s Email Inbox had a “Data Gap” Covering Several Months”
Look!! It’s a party of the jackass circle jerk..!!
So, at the time 15 going on 30 works for youthful indiscretions.. But not so much when you are now 30 and broke..