Twice the Trump DOJ has asked the courts to permit the release of names associated with the case against Jeffrey Epstein and the victims of sex trafficking therein. Twice the courts have denied the Trump administration the ability to release the sealed Grand Jury records. [August 20th] and [July 23rd]
Most of the various victims of Jeffrey Epstein’s sex trafficking operation have previously been paid victim compensation amid various lawsuits including a substantial $290 million financial settlement from JPMorgan Bank in 2023, one of the financial institutions used by Epstein. These lawsuits resulted in what has been reported as ‘various non-disclosure agreements’ (NDAs), which the victims signed.
After the DOJ and congress has released all of the available files, and with various courts refusing to break the seals on names and files within grand jury records, and against the background of multiple victims receiving considerable previous compensation, a group of Epstein victims held a press conference in Washington, DC today demanding the sealed names and NDA covered names be released.
The victims would not, most likely because they legally cannot, discuss the names; but they did say they would compile another private list of names of the people to whom they were trafficked. What the purpose of that private list would be is unknown. The entire thing now seems really weird. WATCH:
Some have claimed a comprehensive list of the names in grand jury files or prior lawsuits would include Donald Trump. However, it seems ridiculous to make that assertion given the profile of President Trump in 2016 and 2024.
If there was any risk to President Trump, the Clinton campaign would have exploited that vulnerability during the height of the MeToo movement in 2016. Assuredly, even without Clinton, the Kamala Harris campaign would have used that narrative in 2024. Neither political opposition effort ever engaged in such a claim.
The Occam’s Razor review of the current state of Epstein victims’ status, is one that points toward extortion. The victims having previously signed agreements, would be at legal risk to violate their various NDAs. However, for the purposes of structuring a political narrative, there are likely revenue sources willing to fund an ongoing victim narrative.
I suspect the lawyers representing the victims in the video (press conference) are likely compensated by the same entities who fund large domestic political operations. The “Republicans” who align with the intention of the efforts, seem to hold a commonality with the same financial interests behind former Republican candidate Ron DeSantis.
The victims now seem more akin to political operatives looking for some kind of secondary payday by maintaining a story they are not legally permitted to advance in specific ways.
The victim group continually says they will not name the people to whom they were trafficked, which is strange considering the high visibility of their performance and their obvious demand to release grand jury names that could be settled by their own statements releasing names. Additionally, their claims of imminent fear do not resonate truthfully against the backdrop of their quite happy presentation.
The DC event seems like a leverage game of sorts, with some financial benefit as the goal for the victims. For the DC politicians, perhaps a construct to position themselves for some electoral benefit. All of it rather unseemly.
There also appears to be a media management operation happening with the group. MSNBC appearance below:
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If an Epstein story was a threat to Trump, do you really think Clinton would have exhausted so much energy on fabricating Russia?
Think about it. Duh.
— TheLastRefuge (@TheLastRefuge2) September 3, 2025
Eh, sorry but this is goofy. Why doesn't each victim just start by saying, "Hi, my name is XXX and I had sex with XXX".
No need for lists, just say who you had sex with. https://t.co/XLOSTZpQym
— TheLastRefuge (@TheLastRefuge2) September 3, 2025
Money-making opportunity, with talk show, radio, strreaming and live appearances.
Now I’m wondering if there were food trucks, and t-shirt and wind chime and farmers market sellers.
“Try our Victims Brand™ birth control, sex toys, and lingerie. Plus check out the new Epi(Stein) Pen© STD treatment medications! We blew our first million dollar payout, so we’re selling-out while the gettin’ is good!”
Don’t forget books. There are always books.
Yeah, you can always tell by the way they glam themselves up. That would be both men and women in these type events.
It has become very obvious that DC now stands for “Disingenuousness Central” instead of some old geographical reference….
Shakedown.
“The entire thing now seems really weird.”
So weird that only the Mad Hatter could have invented it.
Or a Democrat.
Electronic Funds Transfer Act.
Where were all these young girl’s parents when all this was happening????
Nobody asks that question. I think it must be verboten.
Reveling in the idea of their kid being the next Tyra Banks.
In case you aren’t aware, many parents suck, and it’s not the kid’s fault. And some kids rebel against even good parents and are capable of doing things behind the back of their parents. What difference does that make for the issue of getting the files released?
There are no files. There is only some testimony past with everything redacted that is important. There are copies of the flight logs and word of mouth stories about what went on in the plane and on the Island, and the Rancho in New Mexico. Anyone who seems ready to spill the beans with names unredacted will convieniently committ suicide or meet with a sad accident.
Then it is pays your money, and takes your chances with these young ladies, it they “rebelled” against their parents. Even in our post 1960’s culture, they knew exactly what they were doing, as much as they knew it was wrong on many levels. They were trading sex for cash and gifts.
But yeah, the guys hitting on under-age girls do deserve their just do as well, but these ladies conspired for cash to keep them unaccountable. That needs to be said too.
One of Epstein’s OWN LAWYERS (Alan Dershowitz) has said on the record that he saw everything and there is NO “file” that exists.
And in addition, when you encounter insane promiscuity, consider that you may be observing a person with bipolar mania. And yes, it can happen in “nice” families and they don’t understand what is going on (because it makes no sense)
Beach culture. Trailer parks. Parents were too busy watching C.O.P.S. and the Jerry Sprinter Show to actually give a damn.
I worked with a grandma who was still working in advanced years. trying to support seven grandchildren abandoned by three sets of drug addicted parents.
Some people are working their tails off just to survive. Don’t take your good fortune for granted, if you do
The girls were not that young. I believe just one was underage, and she probably lied about her age.
Oh give parents a break. Pretty much the entire culture was doing its best to become hypersexual: movies, television, magazines, books. Remember that “popular” movie “Pretty Baby” with Brooke Shields? Glamorizing prostitution and pedophilia. I’m all for honesty but it was over the top.
And now, the Democrat influencers are glorifying cultures that kill girls for flirting, let alone having sexual relationships.
It’s all ridiculous and irrational nonsense.
Honor killing.
https://reutersinstitute.politics.ox.ac.uk/theres-no-honour-honour-killing-paradox-femicide-palestinian-media
As usual, it’s all about the money.
So what is this actually about? Another round of lawsuits? Another big payday? What about the Proud Boys? There are still operatives in the DOJ pushing to drop the Proud Boys lawsuit. To me that is way more important than this craziness.
I would be more interested in the group of people who were paid with our tax dollars from the secret fund Congress uses to pay off victims of unwanted sexual advances.
Let’s not talk about that-Just politicians being politicians. Just nothingburgers
Does anyone else notice anything?
If these people are actual victims of Epstein, how is it not breaking their agreements to even show their faces? With the ability to identify people readily, why are they even making an appearance at a press conference?
Furthermore, do you see any grown up victims who would have been among tiny little kids who may have been the anonymous victims from Epstein Island who had no one ever pursuing any legal recompense on their behalf? The hope of the perpetrators and their abettors is surely that no one will ever, ever know.
Dear God knows and there is a Lake of Fire with their name on it waiting for the perpetrators.
This seems to me more reinforcement of the idea that the victims were at least teenagers when their Epstein odyssey began and that is certainly bad enough! But what about the very little ones, what became of them?
Where are any credible reports of girls under the teen years being exploited? I hear there were, but have never seen anything close to proof. Any links would be appreciated.
No reports they were ever kidnapped off the streets and forcibly raped. It seems like a mutual quid pro quo with happy smiling photographs to underscore the voluntary natures of this “relationship”.
Maybe these ones were not credible enough to have gotten an NDA and cash back when NDAs were being done for others? If this event, or stunt, or whatever it is, were to cause some official action to provide them cover, then maybe they would be able to get their cash without an NDA or the possibility of a defamation suit? Just wondering. But it does sound fishy after all this time. Cash must be on the table somewhere.
“We will pay you money to go on TV and assert you are/were a victim of Jeffrey Epstein”. It doesn’t matter if you were a victim or never met the guy, pretend for about 6 months until we (Dims) come up with the next best idea with which to target Trump or someone close to him.
Solve for whose cash is on the table, this time.
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Where did you get the idea there were children? There was a pyramid scheme of well-paid mostly older teenagers and young women recruiting others for Epstein’s personal perversions and to populate his parties. Epstein introduced people to each other, and his “clients” were financial — shell corporations, setting up covert financial schemes, hiding, moving, holding, laundering funds. E.g. Iran-Contra, Clinton Foundation.
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O.C., I responded upthread to suejeanne stating that prepubescent children were not involved.
As suggested, maybe there are forces paying them more to pin this on Trump somehow, than what they earned from their prior hush money payouts..
There were no prepubescents present on the island nor the NM ranch. The youngest victim was 14 at the time, just below the age of consent (in the U.S. that would be 16 to 18 depending on the state). Pedophilia involves children that have not reached puberty.
The instant Gloria Allred showed up, I knew it was nothing more than a stunt.
Oh, YES!
She didn’t have Lisa Bloom (her daughter) in tow?
There is no physical written list per se. However, disclosing all or almost all the men these women were trafficked to would allow someone to compile a list of them. And that is where the risk is. From such a list one may see a pattern emerge, and from observing that pattern over time, one may see a trend emerge.
If every time anyone walks past a certain house, they get robbed, the person living in that house might want to keep all the police robbery reports hidden. There could be, not just a pattern of WHERE they are being robbed, but there also could be a pattern of WHO is being robbed, like maybe everyone who just got cash at the ATM around the corner. Further, there could be another hidden pattern embedded in the data that can only be seen once the first two patterns are identified, like maybe phone calls placed to the owner of the house by the bartender at the bar across from the ATM who can see it out the bar window.
Patterns and trends. The entire world is made up of patterns and trends. Keeping information hidden keeps those patterns and trends hidden. Regarding Epstein, it is those patterns and trends that some are desperate to keep hidden. And they keep them hidden by keeping each individual piece of data hidden.
Just a thought, but there could also be a pattern of timing, like which political people were compromised at a time a certain piece of legislation was about to be passed/rejected, or when a certain foreign policy decision was about to be determined.
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A conviction for sex trafficking requires only -one- girl who gave Epstein “massages” to have been brought across state lines or out of the country.
(I realize that the word “traffic” somehow connotes “traffic” as in a lot, as in picturing cars on an interstate highway. But that’s not what it means in this context.)
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Well, Burning Man is over and a lot of weirdos do have some time on their hands………
Sundance – What’s up with 212 Dems and just 4 Republicans supporting a discharge petition?
Something smells very fishy?
Has the Deep State altered the evidence?
To include Trump, GOP members or his circle in some way?
My BS meter is off the chart!
AJ
There’s a reason why the administration wanted the grand jury evidence released. It is genuine & under seal with little to no opportunity to alter.
Altered evidence was Plan A that failed this is Plan B
Like I said earlier.
🐎💩
Once you’ve seen the strings….
This reminds me of Blasey Ford and her beach friends. Interesting that President Trump called it a hoax. He knows something.
‘those who cannot be named’ would most certainly be on the ‘list’
therefore, ‘those who cannot be named’, will not be named
certainly not by these victims, and certainly not by anyone else
not ever
When I first heard from the DeSantis supporters and other pseudo conservative bring up the Epstein Files several weeks ago I knew they were trying to set up Trump AGAIN.
If the uniparty had anything on Trump about Epstein they would NOT have used the Russia Hoax so the Hilldabeast could win in 2016, cheated the 2020 election, tried to assassinate Trump to win the 2024 election.
The evil deep state are so stupid.
Aren’t Massie and Pushaw an item??
this X post implies that, not sure what to make about the “mysterious” part of Massie’s wife’s death:
https://x.com/ss_scmb/status/1937535084053053723
His drastic change in appearance is a give away. His only spending 2 weeks back home with his children when she died “unexpectedly” before beelining it back to DC. was another.
His children are adults. Nobody but the independently wealthy get unlimited time to grieve.
Most people return to work either for income or to keep occupied.
Oh get real. She passed away July 25th 2024. He could have stayed through August recess if he had chosen. His 2 daughters and their kids live in Kentucky. His wife died in Portsmouth , Ohio, where her father lives. Most people do not have the leniency of job requirements of a U.S. Congressman either.
Yuk!
“If there was any risk to President Trump, the Clinton campaign would have exploited that vulnerability during the height of the MeToo movement in 2016. Assuredly, even without Clinton, the Kamala Harris campaign would have used that narrative in 2024. Neither political opposition effort ever engaged in such a claim.”
Agree 100% that this has nothing to do with PDJT.
I really don’t care about this topic. But I do ask the question, why are these entities that fund large domestic political operations and the DeSantis Republicans pushing so hard for full disclosure?
DeSantis is doing everything (getting rid of all vaccine mandates) he can to win voters to his side.
He has not reduced anyone’s RE taxes or insurance fees yet. RE taxes that rose with astronomical RE prices post Covid when the state was flooded are ridiculous. Insurers are always raising premiums and playing dodge the bill post hurricane. He also has not forced FPL to compensate residents for their folly of following the Green Energy policies. Solar panels on roofs destroys roof integrity – a YUGE problem in hurricane country.
My humble opinion is that they are working hard to drag the attention of the people back to Epstein as the Russiagate news isn’t working so well anymore.
President Trump is succeeding and it is driving liberals and Rinos CRAZY.
Why else would they be out there saying “We’ll name names”. If that was the case, they’d just do it. Same crap as before. Just keeps repeating itself with new groups of people.
I thought about it from the perspective of grabbing public attention for some reason. But, as we saw with the WSJ BS several media cycles ago, their efforts to use headlines to hide the ball are exposed within hours.
What motivates the DeSantis Republicans in this game is what interests me more than the names on some so-called “list”.
i think Gloria Allred is bitching about the size of her billings to date, and hence this roadshow by the victims.
Looks legit to me, flush out the johns and dons
This then becomes hearsay without proof . It’s just a political (M) assie show.
And whoever is named is stuck defending themselves. As Sundance said they love turning criminals into heroes. I would add, they like turning heroes into criminals as well.
“If an Epstein story was a threat to Trump, do you really think Clinton would have exhausted so much energy on fabricating Russia? Think about it. Duh.”
For a few, it is a potential money maker.
For the rest, it’s a religion.
You must believe, comrade!
The party demands you believe!
Ace of Spades, today:
“This seems like a political stunt, or an attempt to get a publisher to offer millions to the group for a tell-all.
“My problem is that opportunists looking for a paycheck will claim whatever is necessary for the biggest paycheck, and what would get them the biggest paycheck is making up stories about Trump.”
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I believe Ace is probably right.
https://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=416333
Who are the dudes? And what was their role in the whole Epstein thing?
Brothers of victim Virginia Guffrie, who is now recently deceased.
I don’t see the relevance of their presence.
Probably to back up their sisters lies
They’ve ALL got an “angle” and they’re sticking to it………ala Bat Crap Crazy e jean carrol or Christine Ballsy Ford….workin’ that “Me Too” mojo without saying it………does anyone smell a Norm Eisen in the air????
You think all these women, mostly from a few FL middle schools during a period in time, have all been lying since the 1990’s?
One of the two males interviewed was the brother of the deceased Virginia Giuffre. She has written a book about to be released and had accepted a settlement, as many have and as Sundance has pointed out above, of around $22MIL, maybe more, from various parties. I don’t doubt that these women may have suffered as minors at the hands of Maxwell and Epstein. But when all of the settlements have been dished out and signed off on, how did these people miss the boat? What are they looking for?? OR is it a dog-and-pony operation, put together as a political stunt to roil the pot and keep it as a “news item” to keep interest in ANY potential Trump involvement, which has already been debunked several times over, as leverage??? Sundance is right, it is VERY odd and deserves to be questioned. It’s not like political opponents of BOTH stripes are beyond formulating a bunch of BS to get a case in front of a judge OR to keep sensational stories in the news to foment hate or campaign contributions………
Not middle school. High school and most went to make money. Read their interviews with the detectives, many went back many if not hundreds of times to give Epstein massages because they got paid a lot of money. We are not talking about a bunch of girls who were forced into doing anything or forced to keep returning. Some decided it was sick the first time and left and never went back, but most kept returning to make a lot of money.
Perhaps the aggrieved girls/women, who are legally enjoined from disclosing the names of their violators by the NDAs they signed, are looking to bring pressure on Congress to force the disclosure of their violators enabling them to get both restitution and satisfaction.
But if they accepted restitution and signed NDAs as part of that restitution haven’t they accepted settlement to make them “whole” in the form of the restitution??…..and would not be entitled to anything more???
These lawsuits resulted in what has been reported as ‘various non-disclosure agreements’ (NDAs), which the victims signed.
If the victims were underage how could they sign off on a settlement?
Is not rape is a crime?
Does enough money turn rape into legal child prostitution?
I would think that when it was finally time to sign NDAs, most if not all women were old enough to sign for themselves.
It is often useful to play “what if,” as it can finely hone one’s analysis.
So, what if Epstein is still alive? Swapped body quickly cremated, and he’s off somewhere still breathing? What does that do to the analysis of “why this press conference, and why now?”
My initial guess is that the Uniparty need a distraction from the great work that PDJT and Team MAGA are doing. None of these people agitated and demanded all of the clarity during the Biden term. Not one.
They could have done all sorts of bipartisan posturing over this issue from 2020 to 2023 in order to score political points.
I also think that since PDJT and Team MAGA are actually accomplishing what they said that they would do that the RINOs/Faux MAGA/dems in Congress have nothing to agitate and fundraise over. PDJT is not even using them to accomplish what we voted for thus exposing them for the worthless actors that they really are. We rarely see them anywhere close to the oval office when PDJT has his press conferences.
This gets them back in front of the cameras, on talk shows, and podcasts. We know that they really don’t do much of value for America.
This gives them a chance to appear important.
Most revealing point.
How many politicians pushing this circus atmosphere of names, also voted not to release the Grand Jury testimonie and records?
If there are names named that were not part of the record then, and there is no other evidence, flight logs etc… and the testimony is devoid of dates and times to alow any accused a defense, is there any credibility to this?
The real list I wanted are the relationship to any blackmail set up by any intelligence agency involved in the story, and that is what will never come out.
Occum’s razor is correct usually. They are funded by parties motivated to throw mud at Trump without anything to go on. Just like the Steele dossier or any number of other dirty tricks. There is money available for launching anti Trump scams so the lawyers are looking at all angles to make money. There is nothing more here.
NBC sure skewed the questions in that direction, didn’t they? All the missed questions, the who, how, when, how and why questions of the girls themselves and the repetition of stack the blame on Trump questions. Smelled fishy for sure.
I wonder most what were these girls doing before they got into the Epstein thing. No NDA should have been able to cover up that too.
The Steele dossier was entirely fabricated.
The sudden emergence of a new Epstein client list might also be entirely fabricated.
It fits the Modus Operandi of the “Get Trump” lawfare practitioners.
(If the victims signed NDAs, only the guilty are protected. The victims cannot disclose ACTUAL Epstein clients. NDAs may not block the girls from inventing fictitious clients.)
Stormy Daniels famously signed an NDA. She didn’t adhere to it, and nada happened to her.
Good point
Sundance, I am no fan of victim culture or even the “Me Too” movement where adult women were claiming decades old harassment while seeking work in Hollyweird or advancement in careers.
But these women were little girls, were victims, and have not received justice. I appreciate them speaking out, and have been involved with our American legal system enough to know that unfortunately some lawyers are advising each of these women not to personally name names publicly. Then they put themselves at risk financially and may spend the rest of their lives in courtrooms opposing men much more wealthy and connected than they are. So the advice from their lawyers is sound. They also know they have named names in the proper venue, to law enforcement, and the agencies sitting on that information continue to hide it. They are trying to get it into the sunlight.
14 years old is well beyond “little girl”. Get real and go visit a junior highshoool.
A 14 year old cannot legally give consent no matter how big of a man chaser she is.
True, however there were no prepubescent victims.
Girls mature at different rates. My grandchildren are home schooled and their parents restrict their television and technology access. They do not have cell phones. They are not teens yet but that milestone is only a year or two away.
Most were closer to 17, and many went back willingly over and over, and were paid well. The men going there were guilty of trafficking in prostitution, and most of the ladies were young, but not little girls pulled forcibly off the streets, drugged and sold into forced prostitution. like in the movie “Taken”. Other girls decided to never go back there and they were pursued or threatened as far as I have read.
Mostly Right – Many (a lot of) comments I have read re this article are disparaging (if names/avatars reflect the persons who comment, IMO there is a higher ratio of men). You speak commonsense as to the gal’s motivations and why this press conference took place.
Pam Bondi has been proven to be a liar again on the missing 1 minute Epstein prison cell video and the way ALL prison video supposedly has a missing video at Midnight.
When will PDJT dump or shame her into submission ?
Didn’t all these “Victims” already receive a huge settlement ?
Either a liar or clueless. History suggests it could be either or both.
Either a liar, or lied to?
This is starting to feel like a different version of Me Too.
I hope so. Me Too mostly bit the Hollywood and elitist Left.
As desperate as the deep state is to stop the MAGA policies, would it be beyond the realm of possibility that the NDA violations would be ignored if President Trump’s name was brought up? Yes if it was true than Hillary and Kamala would have used it. However, just like all the other attempts to smear President Trump that were lies, it just has to be out there. The TDS zombies and MSM would trumpet it 24/7. They don’t care, anything to hurt our President, including murder is not beyond them.
As long as the names are never released, the left can continue to claim Trump is on the list and is actively forcing the hiding of his name.
They don’t want the list of names released; they want to capitalize on the names not being released.
Grand jury testimony is supposed to remain sealed. They all know this.
When Gloria Allred came forward, I had seen enough. What a clown show!
Mostly this is just boring. I will be grateful when we can move on.
Why did the fact that the courts are stopping some of this not even get mentioned? Instead, they blame Trump for not releasing the files!
Because he should act the tyrant the accuse him of being and defy the courts. While he is at it he can declare himself king…
The JP Morgan to Epstein victims, the Fox News to dominion, etc all seem like money laundering/payoff operations.
Ambulance chasers come in the form of politicians media whores and lawyers
I believe these people and the ones who abused them should be prosecuted.
Massie definitely needs to go after this fiasco.
This will boomerang on the Left once again. Any time they try to put President Trump in the crosshairs with fake news, it backfires on them.
If people thought they had a long fruitless wait through the tic toc era, the Left is about to find out how that works.
Marjorie Traitor Greene and Masshole signed the discharge petition with the all the Marxist Dems. This is meant to smear President Trump and divide the GOP. After the Russia hoax, Ukraine hoax, Kavanaugh hoax, confidential docs hoax, you would think some Republicans would get a clue that the Dems just want to control the news cycle and win at all costs, but alas, we have as many morons on our side as the Dems do theirs. As far as DeScamtis, he got 3% in the GOP presidential primary and is quietly being rolled out of town by the Florida GOP and Team Trump. They know he is bad news. MTG will likely get a Trump-endorsed primary challenger. Masshole is polling close to Liz Cheney territory and went full anti-Trump.
Whoa, whoa, whoa…what’s really going on here?
Gloria Allred.
It’s got sketchy written all over it.
This is the “rebuttal” to Ghislaine Maxwell’s statement that ended all the Epstein nonsense. It’s a distraction from the democrats’ dumpster fire that is 2025
They are victims being used by evil people. It’s that simple.
Not sure. Remember Julie Swetnick and Christie Ford.