Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard appears for an extensive podcast interview with Miranda Devine.
It may create ‘splodey heads in Washington DC, but DNI Gabbard is now positioned as the tip of the spear to penetrate the fraud, lies, schemes and manipulations of the Intelligence Branch of government. Tulsi Gabbard is the leading voice for honesty and sunlight against the entire DC apparatus that participated in the Russiagate construct.
Gabbard now understands how the DC silo system was weaponized during the manufacturing of information against a political candidate, Donald Trump. Gabbard is speaking truth toward a corrupt system, and she will be the target of all fury that’s dependent on the retention of the corruption.
Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard sits down with Miranda Devine to discuss, in her own words, Obama’s Russiagate plot to sabotage Trump, Hillary Clinton’s vendetta against her, and the evidence that could topple Brennan, Clapper, and Comey. WATCH:
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I’m liking her more and more. Let’s pray she’s not in the habit of dining out in DC.
Or comes down with a “heart issue,” or the coroner mysteriously dies a week afterwards…
Or is compelled to suddenly resign to “spend more time with my family”.
She’s very brave. Pray for her.
But Sundance was the tip of the spear on this before 99% of Washington DC even knew what an “intelligence silo” is.
It looks like dining was safe for Trust Jeff Sessions and Rat “Redactenstein” Rosenstein.
Sundance must be doing the happy dance right now.
We’ve been learning about these silos for years now here- it’s about time that the normies and TV watchers learned how things really work.
We cannot fix things that people don’t even know about.
He’s a bit more optimistic than he has been of late.
Absolutely. Noted with much smiling.
The silos are a remnant of the Clinton Administration/Jamie Gorelick; IIRC, Rush used to talk about this and referred to it as “walls,” created by Jamie Gorelick, but probably Hillary had a lot to do with it, HRC is a strategist for evil.
Silos are quite common in large organizations; ubiquitous in corporations as well. This is the “model” that the corruptocrats emulate, not surprisingly, as their touchpoints are power and $$.
Patriot Act cemented and locked the silos. Even made a bunch of new ones.
Silos exist everywhere in government because to those people – knowledge (information) is power. Self-focused government managers don’t share information because it gives them power over those who don’t have that particular information. It’s always a cutthroat dog-eat-dog fight for advancement that’s different than private industry, wherein a for-profit unit’s financial & productive performance plus personnel cohesion are better measures of promotability and withholding information can be destructive to the company’s success.
Okay Tulsi. Now release information regarding the targeting of J6er’s, pro-life activists and who coordinated the assassination attempt against President Trump.
All things in time. It’s a choreographed exposure. Each week a new piece dropped. Goodness knows most voters can’t handle too much info at one time.
I tend to agree – But I’m a Boomer and don’t like to wait.
I guess I’m saying – We never know the day and the time!
Boomer song:
Does anybody really know what time it is…
Does anybody really care?
-Chicago
Also applies to “old timers” disease.
(to the tune of I should know right?)
One of my most favorite CTA songs, Wordman! I’ve probably sung it a thousand times over my lifetime.
”We’ve all got time enough to die” is as pertinent today as in the past and the future, and quite relevant to hour responsibilities, regardless of how minute they are, considering that we often don’t get a second chance.
I know I’m not in your league but, I’m trying.
Well, it’s hard to say I’m sorry, for spending Saturday in the park, with the Chicago Transit Authority.
Wordman:
You’re the inspiration!
It’s apparently 25 or 6 to 4.
Every year is getting shorter, never seem to find the time
Plans that either come to naught, or half a [screen] of scribbled lines
Wordman, I had to toss in some Pink Floyd, with one pertinent word exchange.
Well we don’t know the day and the hour, but we do know the time and the season. And because we do not know the day and the hour, He said to watch for the signs.
He said to watch for the signs BECAUSE we do not know the day or the hour.
<…we do know the time and the season.>
It’s the time of the season…
When love runs high.
-The Zombies
(Keeping with ‘The Boomer theme’ – LOL)
I can’t wait forever
Even though you want me to
I can’t wait forever
To know if you’ll be true
Time won’t let me
Time won’t let me
Time won’t let me wait too long
The Outsiders!
They weren’t actually a one hit wonder but it’s the only song of theirs I’ve ever heard. It was a staple on Top 40 AM radio through at least the late 60’s.
Ah…
If I
Could save time
In a bottle…
What’s the first thing that you’d like to do?
I feel reassured that there are people in Government working on my behest. Everyday with Obama and Biden I just sensed pure evil.
It’s all about preparation. A farmer has to prepare the field before planting his crop, , a lumberjack has to cut off the branches to harvest a tree, a dentist has to prepare a tooth before filling it, a seamstress has to measure, cut and pin before sewing, etc etc. We all do it in our daily lives to obtain the best results we can. To hurry or skip the necessary steps generally results in either a shoddy, unsatisfactory or even dangerous result so why would these actions be any different or why would anyone want to take the chance of it. I am just as impatient as the next person and would be thrilled to see some actual indictments, arrests and mug shots but bitching about it, especially from my view from the peanut gallery, won’t change a thing.
Wonderfully stated Teagan….
“Come writers and critics
Who prophesize with your pen
And keep your eyes wide
The chance won’t come again
And don’t speak too soon
For the wheel’s still in spin
And there’s no tellin’ who
That it’s namin’
For the loser now
Will be later to win
For the times they are a-changin’
Come senators, congressmen
Please heed the call
Don’t stand in the doorway
Don’t block up the hall
For he that gets hurt
Will be he who has stalled
The battle outside ragin’
Will soon shake your windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin’“
“There’s something happening here
But what it is ain’t exactly clear”
Some cannot even handle ‘too little’ info at any time.
As most J6 prisoners were pardoned – some may need help – it seems that Russiagate comes first chronologically.
Why muddy the waters, by adding more revelation of corruption, to regular joes plate. We risk information overload.
Russia gate & Mueller (particularly) need this period of time in the sun
And Seth Rich.
Give her time. The public needs to digest all this first.
Could it be that we might know how and where she got this insight and knowledge??? 😉
I have a pretty good guess.
Somebody made a trip to DC a few months ago. 😉
All this coverage about russia gate on this site but Sundance believing that it is all a dog and pony show to satisfy MAGA is hard to swallow. I am Still hopeful for indictments at a minimum. Make them defend themselves in court. The process is the punishment right? Even though I’m sure everyone’s lawyers will be paid for. Make them sweat at a minimum President Trump. If nothing happens it will diminish PDJT’s legacy in the eyes of many, especially those who want the swamp drained more than any other promise.
Agree 💯. There has to be justice for these traitors, or more of the same.
I’ve said that this is one time that Sundance is going to be proven wrong calling this a dog and pony show.
Let’s hope so, I do remember “the big ugly” about 8 years ago that never played out. I imagine that is why Sundance is not taking a leap of faith on this again.
The big ugly is playing out now.
He was correct it was coming.
He never put a time frame on it.
He didn’t say all of it was.
Just a few aspects. The ones that have to do with Bondi mostly.
Nope He is 100% correct. NUTHING will happen they will allow him to make many in America prosperous but thats it. Look at the 2020 election fraud evidence out there waaazzzooo from Admirals yet they had no standing.
It is not wisdom to look at lost battles and proclaim the war lost. Washington DC has become Mordor on the Potomac. The ” March through the Instituions ” was all but complete.
The tide has turned. The battles are being won daily. J6 and the election, Russia Russia Russia etc. are all battlegrounds, as is EVERY 3 letter agency. Voter ID is being won state by state. True history is being forced into the news. Pedophiles are being arrested and the most dangerous illegals sent packing daily. A Grand jury is almost never anounced until it us well underway and the conclusion foregone.
Yes, it’s a weasel and snake show.
I have a weird theory. SD is driving hard to the hoop with the NOTHING WILL HAPPEN TO ANYONE, angle, in order to goad them to prove him wrong.
Just a hunch!! Maybe a little wishful thinking as well!!
I wonder if a little bird recently flew within Dir. Gabbard’s vicinity with a chirp or two…?
😇
Please, no more “talk”. I understand that lining up the evidence to hold the scum accountable takes time, but just shut up until the arrests begin.
Unfortunately, arrests are not going to happen.
The ONLY way for accountability is if Trump had an excellent Attorney General. The RINO senate would never approve a real Attorney General. So we end up with the three stooges Bondi, Patel and Bongino.
Oh, believe me, I totally agree with you.
The hopelessness in the three despairing comments just above may well be stategic and desperate. It is certainly not useful.
ALL of these traitors need to be perp-walked and forced to go to TRIAL. I don’t believe that ANY of them are going to be found guilty. I agree with Mr. Sundance on that, but they all need to be handcuffed and taken to jail and fingerprinted and photographed!!
Let’s not forget the mugshots.
Silo Systems – Call me crazy but I think someone reads The Treehouse.
Of course. Both parties do
And post the occasional comment.
Has Tulsi read Sundance’s analysis of the agency silos? It sounds like it.
X / 🐦
It seems to me that Tulsi Gabbard is the only one serious about this. She needs a lot of help but it doesn’t appear to have any backup.
Trump is serious…..right?
A Grand Jury is evidence you are incorrect. Her postion is the head of the spear regarding the Intelligence agencies. This battle has 1000 fronts and many champions.
I had to pray and walk the beach to clear my mind of Hate/Vengeance after reading about “Big Balls”, his bravery and price he paid. I was wrong about DNI Tulsi Gabbard. She has bigger cojones than a lot of men put together! If Sundance says “incoming” it’s going to get ugly for her…God, please protect her and her family and God Bless the USA!!!!
Tulsi is a person of gravitas.
Tulsi is putting her career, reputation, and credibility on the line. No one else would have the guts.
Many are doing that.
We may not get justice with any arrests but my best advice to President Trump is fire everyone in the FBI, CIA and the DOJ.
Plus anyone that was appointed by Obama or Biden or Bush.
Travel around the country and hire some construction guys to fill the positions.
Everyone needs to be fired.
I can’t disagree, but another district judge will certainly attempt to block such a move. My recollection is that at least one of these judicial overreach cases has been blocked by the Supreme Court, but I believe most of them are still pending.
Actually, by the time they reach the SC, Trump is winning most.
The reason why this is not going to be a dog and pony show is because of President Trump. He is not going to let this pass, and his megaphone is only going to get louder and stronger. He has already made critical statements of Obama.
President Trump has no reason to go easy now since he cannot stand for reelection, and too many pundits are ignoring his big megaphone as President.
also
Gabbard v Bondi
different QBs different plays
And professional jealousy? I can imagine Bondi saying “No way she’s going to upstage me.”
They are polar opposites in the way they act, dress and speak. Bondi is as fake as a Barbie doll. Gabbard is the epitome of professionalism and grace.
@21:05 of DNI Gabbard interview on Pod Force One …
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Hillary Clinton on the Death of Qaddafi
“We came, we saw, he died”
https://youtu.be/6DXDU48RHLU?feature=shared
@40:00 Tulsi explains as a 20-year old when 9/11 occurred, he4 decision to join the Hawaiian Air National Guard.
Tulsi was part of a medical group that was deployed for 18 months in Iraq starting early 2005.
Gabbard’s name was initially not included for the deployment but she demanded to be included.
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Remember, Tulsi is the first female combat veteran ever to run for POTUS …
Gabbard did 2 deployments. After the first with the medical group, she went through OCS then deployed with a security (MP?) group.
Tulsi did not mention that training during this interview.
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The Alabama Military Academy is a National Guard Officer Candidate School located at the Fort McClellan Army National Guard Training Center in Anniston, Alabama. It was established in 1957. The academy focuses on developing future leaders through a combination of military training and academic instruction, instilling values such as patriotism and Christian principles.
We drank, we lied, he died.
Speaking of interviews, Viva Frei and Robert Barnes are interviewing Russians With Attitude.
They are live right now.
The RWA guys are smarter than Viva and Robert, just sayin.
0.o
Way smarter, apparently. Definitely smarter than Bob.
And they speak better English than many Americans.
Great stuff. Thanks, Fuzzy.
I believe there will be indictments. Convictions are a different story. In my opinion, the nameless elites who live in the shadows but control the system know they must throw someone under the bus or it is just too obvious there is a 2 tiered justice system. In order for the illusion of a fair justice system to continue there has to be accountability. Maybe I am wrong and their idea of showing the world that nobody is above the law was to indict PDJT. We shall see, but it will be cemented in history that there is an untouchable deep state if at a minimum there are not indictments.
The worst part is that the MSM will spin it all as political retribution – and continue to ignore the facts of the case.
They are still letting Clapper on the air to spin his lies and push their “false ICA” narratives, etc.
Until the press are somehow ALSO held to account as an active part of the conspiracy — this might not change.
I really don’t think the “MSM” matters. Their numbers are a joke. Everyone knows their agenda except the 60+ year olds
I wouldn’t underestimate their ongoing influence collectively, and as a means to coordinate with the Democrat party narrative. That, and their online presence, still touch a lot of low information citizens.
These citizens are not going to change their minds no matter what evidence is produced.
Former democrats that are yet sincere have a vert very large impact. Tulsi is one such.
people entering their 20’s in the 80’s?
I beg to differ. It’s the 60+ year-olds, like myself, that quit watching the MSM talking heads decades ago.
You may be surprised at how many old ones despise the MSM.
We grew up when news was just reported. No glamour, no emotion.
We don’t care how the msm spins it.
They’re irrelevant and they know it.
That battle is engaged as well.
A Democrat Patriot trumps a RINO or a spineless Republican any day.
I’ve said many times over the past few years that even if we can’t convict, we must still indict. And if we can’t indict, we must still expose.
Tulsi: let the secrets fly! And Pammy: get to getting your job done.
Gabbard v Bondi
different QBs different plays
To paraphrase Quint: she’s gonna need a bigger security detail. A LOT BIGGER.
That’s Chief Brody’s line.
One of the best ad lib lines ever.
Yikes! How did I make that mistake? Of course it was Brody’s line. Thank you.
This is THEIR CITY….. The fuse is fired…ssssssssss…poof! Nothing!
Tusli Gabbard is a racist antisemitic climate denying transphobe in 3 … 2 …
Recall HRC trying to run Tulsi over with the “Russia Bus” (and paint her as a Russian asset , “like Trump”)? That failed miserably for Hillary — and I actually think it represented the beginning of her long and inevitable slide downward.
X · MarkWarner
12.4K+ likes · 20 hours ago
Mark Warner on X: “Tulsi Gabbard is a threat to our national security and should be fired.” / X
Mark Warner · @MarkWarner. Tulsi Gabbard is a threat to our national security and should be fired.
4:05 PM · Aug 5, 2025.
That’s about as clear of a confession as we are going to see 😎
Yesterday, I posted this same X post on “August 5th – 2025 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day 198”.
It posted but MarK Warner was faded out.
That’s why I also posted the Google attribute with the “tweet” …
No, Mark. She’s a threat to YOUR security. And that’s why you want her fired. F—–g Criminal!!
That’s what he means by “our”. Swamp rats use royalist pronouns and refer to themselves in plural.
Paging Jame Wolfe, paging a James Wolfe, pls report to the ODNI where you will be asked about the Carter Page leak and Warner’s role in it. There may be pardons/immunity involved. Paging James Wolfe.
Wolfe was sentenced for two months and fined for leaking that info to Watkins.
Does legal double jeopardy come into play if they want to question him?
And how convenient that Alli Watkins was transferred to the London office of the NYT just before Trump was elected.
Charges for leaking were dropped. They got him on a process crime (lying to investigators).
That was the plea bargain wasn’t it?
Be great if they can bring him in and grill him.
I don’t think you can try Wolfe for the same actions nor would you want to.
You want him to turn on Horseface Warner.
Exactly. Offer him immunity and get him to spill his guts… including for the USAID money he undoubtedly received post jail time to keep him silent… (just a guess)…
Immunity for what? The initial charges were dropped with the plea bargain, and he served his sentence.
The senator the whistleblower naively reached out to for help.
This is not the first time he has tweeted this. They are getting desperate.
*Yawn*
Same tiring playbook. They have nothing new.
That from a known and major CCP asset imbedded in our government. Only one, but a big one.
Generally the response when the release of information may be damaging to the “individuals and institutions” in power the excuse is either “due to national security” or “for the good of the country”. The excuse for the Epstein info was at least new and novel. Warner is just the first of many that will claim “national security” and/or “for good of country” to stop the People’s agenda.
As we all know, Warner was part of the cabal as part of the SSCI.
Plus the leaking of various intelligence through their “chief of staff” creep–James Wolfe.
Might note that the “silo” system also being revealed over at HHS/Bobby’s crew. Who’d have think? A democrat and former democrat leading the way…
Bobby just cancelled about 30 mRNA contracts for research and vaccines where he deems more harm could come from the medicine than the benefits… Winning.
Saving us $500MM.
A little here, a little there, adds up to real $$
And lives saved?
Regarding that, I have not heard these funds are going back ir just rerouted?
Good for him.
He also has stopped mercury – thimerosal – from being used in vaccines.
Former Dems don’t have the “go along to get along” gene ☺️
What does that say about the GOPe Uniparty cucks?
It us very apparent that DC elected are subject to massive bkackmail.
I assume that Gabbard figuring out and explaining the deep state Silo framework is a VERY encouraging sign???
I have to presume that Trump gets it as well.
The fact that Trump45 left office with the “only” copies of at least one key and revealing doc tells me “he gets it”. The ML Raid and the underwear drawer travesty all go to a desperate Deep State willing to do anything to stop this information from coming out (including Butler, and other attempts).
The “only copy” theory also raises the tantalizing question: Who gets prosecuted now for destroying the other copies?
On target. The crimes are rather endless and collusion with the media is coming.
So Tulsi is on the TV presenting “Sundance CI Silo 101”. I like it!
🙂
If she stays at the top of the spear and follows the truth and lives up to standards of our founding fathers and many of those after. She will be a true American hero a class of people that are very rare. May God bless her and continue to guide her.
Despite Sundance’s concerns of another tick-tocking scenario with the DOJ leaking to some conservative outlets, I believe that is being done to counter the fake media’s lack of reporting and minimization of this story. At some point the revelations will be too much for the fake media to continue ignoring. Let’s not forget that there are multiple whistleblowers coming out of the woodwork that we have yet to hear about, and with good reason.
The Figure head of the Russian Hoax Boston Bobby is now conveniently living in memory care which speaks volumes to his last testimony.
He was no different then dementia Joe and Comer knows it.
It’s all a shit show
You read one anonymous story planted in the media and most likely put out by Mueller himself and you instantly parrot what he wants you to believe.
And the outcome of believing the lie that you just swallowed is that he shouldn’t be subpoenaed or prosecuted for his crimes. You also pass along the unproven story and others mindlessly regurgitate it without question.
Isn’t it suspicious to you in all these years there has been no mention or evidence he’s in any care center?
For goodness sake, I can call my home a “care center” because my wife takes care of me.
Heavens, all you had to do was watch his testimony and realized he already had a deposit and was on the waiting list for the memory care home. Why would there be any interest for the public to know this?
James Clapper and his team helped manufacture justification for the war in Iraq, too? What a disgusting, horrible creature.
Yeah The Weapons of Mass Destruction narrative. That was informative.
Lord send your angels to watch over Tulsi Gabbard and her family. Let anyone’s revenge be returned multi fold. May the trap they set be their own pit that they fall into.
God bless Tulsi and give her peace
In Jesus name Amen.
Amen! and Amen!🙏
1 hour 28 minute long interview? Is there a cliff notes version? One can be an ardent follower of current events but not have the time to dedicate to all those long Tucker interviews or other’s podcasts. If an interview can’t hit all the salient points in 15 or twenty minutes maximum then there is a problem.
Who has that kind of time?
Anyone that watched the podcast want to throw out a bullet statement version.
I was about to post something similar. If anyone has the time to post a brief summary would be much appreciated.
There was never a dull moment. Miranda was very down to earth, and so was Tulsi.
You are absolutely right Katy jay. I bit the bullet and got to the 1 hr 7 minute mark thus far. I felt I owed the time to Tulsi who has stepped up to do the right thing. It is a compelling interview and well worth the time spent if one can afford it.
They both speak rare fluent English – you can run it at 1.75 and still hear everything.
Thank you, Sundance!
It is hard to believe that Tulsi was once a rising star in the Democrat party.
That is how far the party has fallen.
I just watched the entire interview. I was very impressed with her overall demeanor and honesty. But, thanks to Sundance and my fellow Treepers, I did’t learn anything I did not already know.
First principal of trust but verify is verify. Thats always the crux of trusting the government. Is Tulsi trustworthy or is just spinning another narrative. There are many new documents being declassified and released, but the redactions are always troubling. I also have noticed the government release 250,000 documents but we never know if there are 250,100 documents and the 100 not released are the most significant ones plus we wouldn’t know if there are prohibited documents. I have never agreed with the government excuses for not allowing unfettered access to the J6 videos. Government employees work for me so we’re not the KGB with secret police and FBI assets have there usefulness but are a dime a dozen and if they were in the crowd they should have been at minimum disclosed to the lawyers of the defendants. Also the method of hiding behind classifying info demands the establishment of lawyers with the security clearances necessary to adequately defend their clients especially defendants using public defenders. The public’s prosecutors in these trials have clearances why not the public defense lawyers.
Positive checkmark for Home Schooling!
Didn’t know that she and her siblings were all homeschooled, and her parents are school teachers by profession!
She was a surfer and her husband too.
1:24:11 mark…
Tulsi said she has not seen anything showing Epstein was an intelligence asset so far.
I remember saying here YEARS ago that God always moves against the enemy where everyone least expects it.
Someone then asked me where I thought that movement might be, to which I replied, If I expected it, it would not be the least expected. 🙄
Well I have to say that Tulsi Gabbard was where I least expected it. Go Tulsi.
That was a GREAT Interview. My hats off to Miranda and Tulsi Gabbard.
Tulsi Gabbard is magnificent in her ability to communicate so clearly
and succinctly the information being unveiled.
An amazing giftedness.
Go Tulsi !
Designer genes
When you are
Authentic –
And only telling
the truth
the facts
And have no agenda,
Other than letting people know…
The words come easier… because you Are
Telling
The Truth!
DEVELOPING: The CIA and FBI are preparing to soon release a new batch of declassified materials related to the dossier fraud and the Clinton Plan to frame Trump, along with the weaponization of national intelligence, among other things … developing …
Prayers.
We haven’t been treated to the picture of the redhead and impending storm for some time.
Probably Trump’s BEST appointment to date.
She is GREAT! However, I am not planning to “breathe in water” no matter how clean it is.😍
So far I’m about half way through this video, and I think it should be on a “must view” list. It’s excellent.
She is cool as a cucumber. I’ve been saying since 2018 that she is MAGA and part of the Great Realignment that is underway.
As a team, they’re doing much better with communicating things. I just watched Nunes and he walks through how this is THE SAME PEOPLE again and again tying each phase of the coup d’etat together.
‘WHAT WERE THEY LOOKING FOR?’ Nunes raises questions over Mar-a-Lago raid
What they need to do is keep reinforcing that this is a rolling coup that is still active. Additionally, the crime here is probably conspiracy against rights under color of law. IOW, if you listen to them, what you hear is that the Obama/Biden regime and its coup plotting flunkies did something very deliberate.
They did “just enough” of the process to give the appearance of legality. I would wager that is almost the very definition of color of law. You can see it in the documentation that has been declassified. Central to the coup d’etat was the appearance of following process and procedure. Even that Susan Rice “by the book” memo is evidence of a criminal act. Why did she write that? It is a continuance of the attempt to put a thin veneer of legitimacy on the crime.
This is no different than a police officer clocking you at 55 mph, but writing 56 on the ticket. You weren’t speeding, but he wanted to pull you over, so he wrote you up for 56.
We had this happen in the small town where I’m from. The local town cop was pulling people over for speeding. Instead of writing them up for speeding (which they were not doing), he would offer instead to issue them a parking ticket (lower fine) in exchange for some cash on the roadside. I want to say he even had a local magistrate in on the scam taking money off the top.
The point being that the local cop was using color of law. He was flashing his lights and his badge to give the appearance of a lawful act. But otherwise acting in a criminal way. He carried on the scam for a number of years because he would write down things that looked legal. It’s legal to issue a parking ticket, for example. There’s no evidence of a cash transaction. And the people caught in the shakedown were mostly non-locals who just want to pay the $2 parking ticket and hand the cop $50 bucks just to get out of there.
That’s what the ICA was. That’s what Mueller was. That’s what Ukraine was. That’s what the laptop lie was. That’s what the J6 committee was. That’s what Jack Smith was. Bad people using their badges and the color of law to commit a years-long attempted coup d’etat. They also got VERY WEALTHY from that effort through book deals (money laundering), TV gigs, speaking tours, etc.
Like the bad cop many real laws were broken. When conspiracy against rights under color of law, becomes subversion and overthrow of the constition of the US, a whole new set of very serious laws are broken.
What a great, calm, interviewer! Thank you, Ms. Devine.
Indeed. Very down to earth and no Gotcha questions. Just pure honesty.