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Let’s engage in some crazy speculation.
We can start with Trump’s trip to see the rich and powerful in Saudi and the other gulf states. Those gentlemen appeared only too happy to fork over what has been touted to amount potentially to more that $2 Trillion in trade commitments. Any doubt that his investment harvesting was on terms the Arabs found beneficial? Watch some of the video clips and read the room. Those guys look like they are shedding risk rather than taking on high-dollar investment risk.
Q: Which country’s crown prince and prime minister came to the White House today to meet with Trump and sign more trade commitments? A: Bahrain
Q: Who gifted a Boeing 747-8 to the US for the use of POTUS Trump as a replacement Air Force One? A: Qatar
Q: Where did Jeffrey Epstein previously have a residence and a passport? A: Saudi Arabia
Epstein traveled quite a bit and held multiple passports — official or not.
Last year, Saudi Arabia chose not to renew the petrodollar agreement.
Trump is transactional and has an economy to rebuild. Would he be willing to Deep Six the names of a dead sex trafficker’s clients in order to accomplish a turnaround for our country? If Arab royalty are among the ones being protected, they could never be held to account. So, is it even conceivable that Donald John Trump, President of the United States of America, would not make a deal?
That would be my wild guess. I felt stupid for not seeing this earlier.
Search on “Jeffrey Epstein Saudi Arabia” as a starting place.
I don’t drink beer but if someone gifted me a beer stein, I wouldn’t name it Ep.
I see what you did there.
Need a ruling from WORDMAN on that!
Name it “Frank N. “
Since there are those here lurking about and keep pushing this Epstein Matter; I will offer up Alan Dershowitz’s most recent statements and ya’ll can do with this link as you see fit:
https://pjmedia.com/kevindowneyjr/2025/07/15/dershowitz-trump-isnt-hiding-the-epstein-creeps-these-two-people-are-n4941774
Perhaps the President should speak about this and not turn on his base. Which, by the way, is the only reason my governor, Glenn Youngkin, made it over the top–MAGA turned out to support him. That was an off-year election, just as what is going to happen in November. Winsome Sears has a tough road ahead of her to beat Abigail Spanberger. That road was just made that much harder by the President.
PDJT hasn’t “turned on his base”. Good grief.
From what I can see and infer, as I gave up Twitter for Lent and have not been back, the supporters that Trump refers to are the same grifters of the past 12 years. And those who follow them, yet do no thinking for themselves.
Welp, I know people are not going to want to hear this giant dose of reality, and truth telling- but here it is:
I’m here in NH, the state that holds the first in the nation Primary, and all day long on NHPR today they were asking the questions “Do you think that the Trump base is finally understanding all that we’ve said all along about who Donald Trump really is???”
I heard this in all sorts of ways, all very dramatic, on NPR coming outta Boston, then public radio over in Vermont, and here in NH.
THIS is what the electorate in NH listened to all day long.
So as much as I understand the anger about the way this Epstein situation is going, the people that won’t get a grip on themselves are rapidly becoming part of the problem -as they play right into the Democrats hands using our own people to screw up the momentum that POTUS needs.
Remember what Rush said all the time: “Only WE can take Donald Trump down because it’s us that created him”.
Well I don’t know about you, but I want nothing to do with being part of a group that is doing that.
I’m sure they don’t mean to, but guess what, this right here is how the Left is playing and using our reaction against us.
I’m not happy about this at all, BUT it’s time to shake it off and not screw ourselves over trying to ‘do good’.
Not everyone on our side even cares about all this Epstein stuff, THIS is the Reality.
The left is now seeing the anger that some of the Trump supporters have about this Epstein case, they are fueling this anger and using it as a way to use people on our own side, his own supporters to crack our unity to then take him down, to sidetrack his agenda, to distract from other critical issues, to take air out of his sails.. to do this is not okay.
Donald Trump sees all this and no wonder he’s pissed at the people doing this- Howie Carr just said all this just now on Boston radio.
And, I hate to tell you this: this situation is not the BIG deal out there that it is to a whole lot of people here at this site.
My own local NH political news blog has barely touched the topic.
The Trump supporter that just delivered my load of gravel for the driveway an hour ago rolled his eyes when I asked him how he felt and he said “There is real life and then there is all that bullshit, I’m paying $2,000 a month for these trucks, my number one concern is the economy not some dead pervert”.
We all know it’s a swamp, we’re not going to get everything we want out of a Swamp of a system.
A lot of people shrug, see the reality of it all and move on.. like the working man that just delivered my load of gravel.
The border is closed, the economy is improving, there is mountains of good stuff going on, so lets try to focus on what we got- and what we continue to get- and move forward.
We can’t get every single thing we want in life.. it doesn’t mean we should burn it all down and cause damage because we’re not getting our way and that right there IS what this is leading towards.
I do not want to wreck what we’ve got going on over this Epstein case.
Our lives truly depend upon this train going full steam ahead with us all aboard.
Besides yourself, do you really believe President Trump supporters listen to NHPR? Since when is “the electorate” defined by those listening to NHPR?
It’s gone right over your head.
Know Thy Enemy
How do we take on what we don’t even know about? Duh.
You are darned right that I listen to what they are talking about, they talk about us, don’t you want to know what they are saying?
Look at where I live- my life depends upon it up here.
How do you make a plan when you don’t know what they are planning?
Thank you for so clearly illustrating the problems..
People here and elsewhere are completely losing broader perspective over this latest Epstein matter.
It’s the summer, and there is not so much happening from day to day politically. And it is easy to latch on to one matter, and ride it into the ground for days on end. The nature of the “cycle”.
I even think our great President is over hammering this issue with today’s latest Truth. A real family feud right now.
Yes, it’s a difficult subject. And yes, perhaps it is not being handled well presently by the Administration. Presently.
…
But before people keep posting about “losing the midterms” and invoking the “Limbaugh Rule” — on July 16, 2025 — I’ll just repost here what I responded to another Epstein doom post earlier today:
I wouldn’t even begin to worry about the 2026 midterms until at least the end of this year.
Worry about the midterms six months out. Six months is an eternity in political time. PDJT has not even been in office six months yet.
People penning his political obit, based on this month’s Epstein matter, are getting way ahead of themselves … and way out in front of the political atomic clock. Where this event may likely be a distant and very faded memory, with a variety of outcomes, by 2026.
Who remembers the digital trading card scandal of late 2021 that “finished” PDJT? I didn’t think so.
This is what Rush Limbaugh said about President Trump: Source: http://www.rushlimbaugh.com
Trump base is solid, and there’s nothing the media can do to break it. There’s not a single thing they can do. They are never gonna give that up, either. They are doing everything they can to split up Trump supporters from Trump. Only Trump can do that. The media didn’t make Trump and, as I repeatedly say, they can’t bust him.
I get it, but it’s for President Trump to bring some level of statement/explanation to the people other than “it’s a Dem hoax so just shut up and forget about it”…and “if you keep asking for it I don’t want you as a supporter”. This just keeps going round and round, because those of us who care deeply and love PDJT want him to overcome this with a cooler head and leadership beyond insults to his base.
We don’t need “bulk files” dropped. Explain what’s happened. Tell us the Blondie and Kash machine dove deep into it, and has found some stuff that’s worthless, some that may be fabricated, and still more that requires further investigation…but its relevance to the mission of MAGA is an intentional distraction. That is why eventually a special prosecutor may be named to sort through it all. For now, focus on the many wins and other activity in progress to keep making America great!
What I don’t like reading or hearing are supporters and fellow Treepers saying “you don’t support our President. Just move on and ignore all of this”. That’s the same approach the Dims did after the Monica debacle from Clinton. They said “it’s his private business, so just MOVE ON”. They built a fund raising powerhouse out of that BLINDERS ON approach.
Something has changed in Trump: Dark comments about Epstein ‘hoax’ lead supporters to drop off MAGA bandwagon and Trump says ‘I don’t want their support anymore!’
https://leohohmann.substack.com/p/something-has-changed-in-trump-dark
Wrong!!!
JMO.
Over the past 4 years, some people bet against President Trump at every stage of his comeback.
However there was an article on 11/2/2021 that accurately identified how President Trump would win in 2024 —— by properly identifying where the democrats would copy the jap’s failed WWII battle strategy. There is a link to it below.
The jap’s strategy was called “Kantai Kessen” which translates in western parlance to simply the ”Decisive Battle Doctrine”.
Well, it looks like the globalists used the same failed “Kantai Kessen” strategy for their 2025, last ditch, all-or-nothing battle plan to attack President Trump’s MAGA / America First strategy.
Once the BBB passed and the tariffs strategy was working swimmingly, the globalists had to try to split up MAGA to stop President Trump. They did that by using the fake MAGA influencers as never-trumpster rabble-rousers. Tucker, etc.
It failed when President Trump called them out yesterday, exposing them for what they really are, globalists masquerading as MAGAs.
Yep, the globalist just lost their battleships and we are just 6 months into a 4 year term.
They are really dumb.
____________________________
The Decisive Battle” article
https://tinkzorg.wordpress.com/2021/11/02/2740/“:
Interesting when they started article
with the…Let’s go Brandon incident👏 👍
It reminds me of how many times the
punchline was….Epstein didn’t kill himself.
Just about all of us MAGA laughed about
it and mocked Biden about it.
Now, I am seeing the montage clips of Don Jr,
Bondi,Bongino,Patel,President Trump and
others and comments they made about Epstein.
😵💫 🥴 😖 It is cringe. Hard to argue with what was…
and is still ….being said by the same people. MAGA
is coming off as the worst Hypocrites right now.
This whole deal the last couple of weeks has been
a disaster. It is not only what was being said…the case
closed …it is how it was done.
illWill it divide the base to a great extent…I personally don’t think so. I view as just a minor glitch in the road. I am still hanging in there!
4gypsybreeze,
Thanks for your comment.
As you rightly noted, it has been a confusing week.
If we have learned anything from the “auto-pen” scheme, it is that things aren’t always as they appear.
President Trump has this.
The globalists will be running for the shadows, but it is too late.
Their cover has been blown.
Epstein can be solved very quickly. Show all the evidence , lists , tapes, interviews, etc. Explain how it’s a hoax or not a hoax.
Explain with evidence how it’s real or forged.
Sunshine is the best disinfectant, so let the sun shine in.
If it is really nothing and no big deal, then this is a no brainer. In fact then go after the forgers and hoaxers!!
The releasing of the files is illegal. It is never done in law enforcement.
The DOJ has two legal options.
(1) If there is credible, usable evidence against anyone then indict and take it to court.
(2) If the there is no evidence or insufficient for an indictment then it cannot be made public –to release it is legally defamation
Also on an ethical sidenote: to just release everything would be agreeing that the ruination of innocent people whose names may also be part of the data dump is an acceptable cost. Mob justice is not justice.
Post of the day! I’m not an attorney but I drew same conclusion but couldn’t articulate as well. PT needs to put this out rather than the loyalty test and just go with my 6 mo accomplishments.
Yes.
Yes
wow.
thank you.
All true.
What’s-her-face is also appealing her conviction–yet another reason it can’t be released.
The Largest Slave-Owners in American History–I refer to the Child Trafficking Sex Slavers Joe Biden and Barack Obama–were in office for 12 years. And not one Democrat expressed any interest in the case, except to visit Child Sex Island repeatedly.
But now it’s URGENT?
Yes, but the outrage cabal do not care. “Burn it all down”, release the names of ANYONE who has had ANY “association” with epstein and to hell with the fallout. By the way, did know Howard Lutnick was once epstein’s neighbor??? Yup, that makes him a “client”…
Thank you for posting this! That information should have been emphasized a long time ago.
The voice of reason. Now the administration needs to do the same things. Be as open as possible and gather the base back in with the truth. Dissing those who have been onboard is never a good way to handle an issue. They will get it right I’m sure and this will slow down. The Dems I think don’t really want to play with this issue too much because they might still be a little bit unsure what might pop up.
Same thing Dershowitz has been saying. Innocent people might never get their reputation back. Nothing new here in this post.
JULY 16 2025
Thank you for your inattention to this matter.
It seems increasingly clear that Trump believes he is named in the files in some unflattering way and that their release is likely or inevitable. To hedge against that, he is trying to decrease the pressure on their release — by downgrading Epstein as a figure and shaming his own supporters who continue to promote their importance while at the same time discrediting the content of the files altogether as the product of Democrats.
https://newsletters.democracydocket.com/trumps-growing-epstein-crisis
Mark don’t you think that Donald Trump- who just bombed the hell of our Iran’s nuclear program has demonstrated that he’s pretty fearless?
Haven’t we seen it all and handled it okay?
What you are saying is ridiculous..
If there was anything out there at all that the Left could use against this man, it would have been out there years ago.
Stop reading fake news and then posting it here.
A lot of that crap is getting posted here.
A lot is posted by Mark. I’m sick and tired of seeing it. He’s every bit as irritating as the ads for a product to get rid of worms that shows up on my kindle.
Now when I see his name I just keep scrolling and don’t even bother to look at his most recent junk.
He’s a deep troll
He actually has an agenda, it seems.
Democracy Docket is a voting rights and media platform that tracks election litigation. It has been described as liberal-leaning[1] and progressive.[2][3][4] It was founded in 2020 by Democratic Party lawyer Marc Elias and is published by Democracy Docket, LLC. per Wikipedia
anything with democracy = socialism = communism = antifa = Nazi
it’s all the same
Mark Elias?!
..Have you seen 13 sites bombed by Iranian’s drones/missiles in the Israel ?????horrible NHnative……
BS, that rabbit would have been pulled out of the hat long ago by the IC. Roberts is the catalyst. My personal belief is that the distraction of the SCCJ being on the list will cause serious gutting of faith in the high court (I know, we have been there since 2016, or well before), that will be a Pandora’s box of a tipping point.
To much all at once. Then again, Sundance did say, everything all at once. Like milk coming to a boil.
Exactly!!!!! Instead of creating a fake Russia, Russia, Russia hoax, they would’ve just released the Epstein files.
Obama and his wingman had 8 years and JoeBama had 4 years to implicate Trump. If it was there it would’ve been done many different times, but for sure the day after the failed assassination attempt.
It seems increasingly likely that you are pushing a narrative, given there’s far more evidence of that in your posts than any thing you speculate about regarding Trump, who’s attempting to defuse booby traps whilst having to shout at people to get back behind the perimeter tape.
Damaging the credibility of the bomb-makers, by linking this device to others they made in the past, is akin to starting to snip wires. Once this task is achieved and the DS fingerprints are shown to be all over the components it removes another one of their defensive tools, rendering any that are still undiscovered (timed to be triggered before the Mid-terms) either inert or seriously reduced in their destructive capability.
BS
Yawn……..
Lol…u funny!!
Pay attention please:
PDT got Democrats to demand an Epstein Investigation?
Sweet!
Had there been anything incriminating against the President in those files, then Butler would not have occurred.
Exactly, Fi.
We’re expected to believe that Obama and Biden had the worst kind of dirt on our President but chose not to use because they are just too damned principled? Trafficker, please.
They would have blackmailed or busted him long ago.
That Obama/Biden resorted to attempted murder at Butler only proves they had nothing else, exactly as you say.
Not necessarily , the Deep State would never release those files even if Trump was listed because it still does far far far more damage to their side than Trump if they did .
🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
BS‼️
Nobody in their right mind would believe that Trump is named in unflattering way in Epstein files. Those files have been under deep state and democrat control since day 1, and they would have been used without hesitation to destroy Trump many years ago if there had been anything.
Or, the Deep State altered the evidence in a way damaging to Trump and Repubs in general while wiping them of Dem misdeeds. Just in case Trump ever got back in.
Or, the Deep State altered the evidence in a way damaging to Trump and Repubs in general while wiping them of Dem misdeeds. Just in case Trump ever got back in.
^^^THIS^^^
0.o
Utter nonsense!
If he were, the corrupt Biden operation would have leaked it long ago!
Turns out Epstein was an MI 6 Operative . . .
“MANDELSON’S REVENGE: How Britain’s New Ambassador Plans to DESTROY Trump’s Economic Revolution”
If he is it’s totally new and doctored because he never was .
I disagree. It is very probable that Trump might be using this as leverage to get his Agenda done.
If there was anything on Trump, Obama would have used it against him. Also, a key witness working on the case tears ago said there is nothing on Trump.
The list is jam packed with democrats , if that list is released it brings down the entire dem party including Judges and many in the media . They didn’t release it for that reason it has nothing to do with Trump . Wikileaks released the Epstein list many years ago . Trumps not on it.
If it’s doctored like Trump is indicating I think he was doctored in to prevent him from releasing it because he was absent from it in the past.
When did President Trump start “shaming his own supporters”?
Just recently it appears .
The pretense is real. He did not.
TGP and other articles about it must be wrong then. It’s possible
Go back. Listen to the clips. Read his actual words. The claim I responded to is from a leftist blog. Believe it at your own risk.
He didn’t as you say “shame his supporters.” He didn’t mention his supporters.
If I misunderstood you (you didn’t claim President Trump shamed his supporters), please excuse my post.
I was responding to the claim in the OPs post. Hence the quotation marks.
Sorry for misunderstanding.
Not the first time you have posted such implication. Just stop.
Well, Mark, it looks like you’re taking a lot of heat for an entirely reasonable post. There’s an important difference in asserting that Donald Trump (my hero!) might simply be “named in the files in some unflattering way” on the one hand, and being found on a blockbuster list of child sexual abusers, etc. In the broader sense, it’s clear that citizen Trump had a long list of associations with Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell from 1987 onward–not only in real estate and other business projects,, but also a lot of wild partying–in New York on super yachts, in Trump-owned hotels, etc., etc. This is all laid out wonderfully in volume 2 of Whitney Webb’s outstanding book One Nation Under Blackmail, subtitled “The sordid union between Intelligence and Organized Crime that gave rise to Jefferey Epstein.” Get it and read it, looking up the fifty or so “Trump, Donald” entries in the Index. What you might well conclude is that Donald Trump is a wonderful guy and a great President, but at present he wants to lie low and see how the issue plays out. Personally, I cannot believe that he would be on any bombshell pedophile list. Pray for him to come through this distracting episode, clean and sharp and full speed ahead!
Well, Mark, it looks like you’re taking a lot of heat for an entirely reasonable post. There’s an important difference in asserting that Donald Trump (my hero!) might simply be “named in the files in some unflattering way” on the one hand, and being found on a blockbuster list of child sexual abusers, etc. In the broader sense, it’s clear that citizen Trump had a long list of associations with Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell from 1987 onward–not only in real estate and other business projects,, but also a lot of wild partying–in New York on super yachts, in Trump-owned hotels, etc., etc. This is all laid out wonderfully in volume 2 of Whitney Webb’s outstanding book One Nation Under Blackmail, subtitled “The sordid union between Intelligence and Organized Crime that gave rise to Jefferey Epstein.” Get it and read it, looking up the fifty or so “Trump, Donald” entries in the Index. What you might well conclude is that Donald Trump is a wonderful guy and a great President, but at present he wants to lie low and see how the issue plays out. Personally, I cannot believe that he would be on any bombshell pedophile list. Pray for him to come through this distracting episode, clean and sharp and full speed ahead!
Is this is a perfect example of a FUD peddling post by another intellectually dishonest interloper?
The author’s referenced books are AI written, full of particularly chosen metadata collected off the internet, arranged to promote a narrative to a target audience.
For all intents and purposes she is an operative.
Don’t believe that?
Pay attention to what she DOESN’T publish.
0.o
Not. If Trump’s credibility was in any way compromised by the “Epstein files” the Left would have been all over it to keep him from being elected
Pure bunk. This would have finished his candidacy the first time if they had anything real on him with Epstein. Everyone knows PTrump had a couple occasions of being with him but not in any way that causes concerns. Unless that is, the Dems and anti Trump types over the last four years added their own versions of what the evidence shows. There’s always that to worry about.
No it doesn’t dope
My take is, this is part of the big ugly and really not much to get all verklempt over. I am more dialed into what matters today which is getting the engine running again, and not chasing the laser pointer all over like a cat….
Me too, Papa….
I’ve had enough…
Here…
Take a break…
Have some ice cream with me…💕
It needs more chocolate syrup…just saying…LOL!
I’ve got more on hand, sis 👍🏻
I will be there, shortly!
👍🏻 💕
honey…watch your weight…
Like, a little ice cream with your chocolate syrup….? lol
Needs whipped cream and sprinkles.
My favorite ice cream flavor is coffee…pretending that’s what I see.
TY
Mine as well, girl…since I was a child.
Jamoca Almond Fudge 😎
Child is right! My dad got me hooked.
I salute your dad!!
Espresso for me, with a scoop of dark chocolate on the side.
Almost as good as a broadside from Sundance!
Oooo! Now that sounds yummy!
A big yes to anything “coffee”!
I saw a recipe yesterday for blending a banana and cinnamon with milk and mixing that with iced coffee (half and half or one-third to three-thirds, whatever you like. I bought bananas while grocery shopping today. 😍
Thank you ….
👍🏻
Made my own ice cream for July 4th!!! It was splendidly delicious😎
I remember the days of cranking until my arm fell off 😁
Not much cranking involved. Several months ago I found that there is an ice cream making attachment for Kitchen Aid mixers. You just have to freeze then attach and let good ole electricity do the “cranking”.
Came out nice and smooth. No grainy, icy particles…and very tasty!!! I made mango and lemon/vanilla. Have not tried chocolate yet.
I’m in. I’ve been wanting ice cream all day and chocolate is my favorite….
Where’s that yummy whipped cream? Mmmm!
I have had it too. I think Susie Wiles wears a wig and follows President Trump everywhere. Pam Bondi is a Barbie Doll not a Lawyer and I would rather watch paint dry than hear the name Epstein one more time from anyone, anywhere.
The Epstein scandal isn’t just another controversy—it’s a litmus test for whether truth still has a place in American politics.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/ghislaine-ready-testify-trump-triples-down-slams-weakling-past-supporters-who-believe
Sure
🤦🤦🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦♂️🤦♂️OMG
La la la … and so on.
Not for me. The truth will eventually come out about Epstein, but I didn’t vote for Donald Trump because of that. I voted for him to get immigration under control, voter fraud to end, NPR to be defunded, schools to be controlled by the states, minimize abortions, get waste in government spending reduced, and force men out of women’s sports. He is currently doing a GREAT job—better than I hoped. But you keep focusing on Epstein to sow discord. I, too, scroll by any comment made by you. Right now I seem to do a lot of scrolling.
Straight from the mouth of Alan Dershowitc, Epstein’s lawyer. Nothing there.
Not good enough for some people.
And those people will never be satisfied, no matter what is done. I wonder what the true motives are for the outrage merchants stirring people up over this. Epstein was never on my list of priorities for the second term and I do not recall President Trump ever talking about it on the campaign trail. I may have missed it but there are so many other issues of greater importance that he is dealing with.
Is he handling this current case… or any
of the other cases? 🤦♀️🤦♀️
April 2025
St. Thomas Island…US Territory
Epstein Victims Signal They’ll Appeal Order Dismissing Suit Against V.I. Government | St. Thomas Source
Feb. 2022…Epstein died in 2019
Jean-Luc Brunel: Epstein associate found dead in Paris prison cell
Brunel was found dead in his cell while awaiting trial…..
he hung himself in his jail cell too…….😳😳
💥 💥 Dershowitz is getting his 15 minutes of fame
spouting garbage…..as usual…🤦♀️
I disagree; Dershowitz has his own podcasts and he is not afraid to speak up in defense of the Trump Administration or the President, especially during all those Lawfare trials and tribulations.
Alan Dershowitz is respected .
Recall he was on President Trump’s Defense Team during his first term Impeachment Proceedings.
There is nothing to gain for Dershowitz to speak out that 2 Manhattan Federal Judges have sealed Epstein documents.
So, now the matter is left to the “Conservative Influencers” and the Dems or any other TDSr to propagate a wedge issue to “go after Trump” via any path necessary.
This is not new or unique, it has been happening since before 2015.
Absolutely disagree with you for the reasons Abigail Straight details. You must not listen to his podcasts to even make some allegations.
From corn syrup? to sugar cane. President Trump says on TS that USA Coca Cola Co has agreed to use cane sugar.
👍🏼 I don’t drink soda but 👍🏼.
I’ll have one once in a blue moon.
Took me a minute L90. At first I thought, sugar in a beer? 🤪😂🤪😂
When I was living in the UK, I had to adapt to what American products I couldn’t get..but when in Rome, so I had no problems.
But oh my goodness…I did miss my Dr Peppers!
Then one day while I was shopping in one of their bigger supermarkets, Lo, what should I find????
I cheered so loudly that other customers turned their heads to see what the heck?? I bought a case…
All this to say that it had a different taste…so much better than the ones I used to buy in the US. I’d describe it as nectar of the gods. Looked at the ingredients…
Cane sugar!!
I’ve been back here now for almost twenty years, and my beverage of choice is ginger ale and then just a half glass with dinner, my treat. I’ve had no desire to buy Coke or Dr Pepper. But if DP changed their recipe, I just might try one for old time’s sake.
You can already get pure cane sugar Dr. Pepper:
https://www.drpepper.com/s/products/dr-pepper-made-with-real-sugar
Now I can be persuaded to drink a DP. First taste of them was in a small town in Virginia as a child. Then a long dry spell in NJ but when dad moved us all to Tejas….guzzle time. Favorite.
My sister became a microbiologist and her first job was at the DP bottling plant in Dallas. 70s. She had to test the syrup brought in the rail cars. When Mt St Helen’s blew she was testing for ash!
When coke had a pavilion at Epcot years ago, they had samples of coke they made for countries all over the world, I was so surprised to see USA coke , my coke , tasted totally different to other countries coke. Wonder why ,they were American company from the start 1892..
Got a friend who will be happy. He buys imported from Mexico coke because it’s still cane sugar. About $2 a 12 Oz bottle.
Ive seen those! Wondered what the draw was! Cane sugar!👍🏼
Yes, I have seen them in Latino marts in NY and NJ.
I believe the original Coca Cola had sugar and another ingredient not currently used in today’s Coke.
Initially I was quite upset by the sudden “nothing to see here” insistence from the administration.
After some time I have a cooler outlook.
1) the issue isnt exactly Epstein. My delicate constitution does not want to “know” sordid details and dirty dealings. The issue is transparency, accountability and justice.
2) It should be admitted by the admin that the quick turn around from Pam bondi from anticipation of “the list is on my desk” and binder-gate to “nothing to see”. Was bad messaging and bad politics.
3) I sympathize with trumps frustration but this new story he tells of it being a phsy-op deserves a press conference where bondi/patel/PDJT lay out the new story and give a little more transparency where they feel they can. At the least.
4) Trump was responsive to the outcry he didnt ignore us and he set some other things right. The prosecution of the covid era Dr who helped patients evade vax mandates was dropped (I believe Wayne Allen root brought attention to the drs plight and put out the plea to Trump)
5) Trump really is doing miraculous things for our country that are going to make real and substantial differences in my life.
All these things considered, I’m willing to let the epstein files slide. I want trump to keep doing those things trump is so awesome at.
Though if trump wants to wash his hands of epstein, I hope comes to understand the issue of Transparency and Accountability will MAGA and hope trump incorporates it into his admin and doesn’t let the next criminal slide.
https://rootforamerica.com/president-trump-proves-once-again-why-he-is-the-greatest-president-of-our-lifetime/
Great read. I love it. Thanks for the link, Neighbor.
“My delicate constitution …”. Exactly what I told my sister this morning, the whole topic is outside of the Philippians 4:8 instruction.
Though I try not to be dismissive of victims who require justice from criminals who need just desserts.
I am not
Government is disappointing. 🤷♀️
I agree, and appreciate your perspective, and that you mentioned Dr. Moore. He’s a true medical hero.
Here’s a link to the Give-Send-Go account set up for him. He and his staff have been pushed to the financial breaking point by this ordeal.
I’d so much rather see our attention focused on his brave actions and to be celebrating the win instead of such a fierce obsession with the other thing. (I refuse to use the name.) His case is just one of several big wins of the moment, and the left is foaming at the mouth to distract attention from it all.
https://www.givesendgo.com/Fight4moore?utm_source=sharelink&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_campaign=Fight4moore
President Trump is a fighter……Fight, Fight, Fight
The President is used to fighting the Democrats, Communists, Globalists, Fake Media……
Heck he is ready to fight MAGA over Epstein.
Maybe he needs to miss a few UFC fights. Gosh, I love him.
June 2025 Border Wall construction progress ( before the added funding from the signed into law, big beautiful bill (bbb)):
(without ‘news’ coverage)
It is being constructed
– which (and will continue to) significantly helps the southern border control in a long term, efficient manner – for public safety, national security, equal enforcement of immigration laws, and is smart use of taxpayer funds.
Link;
https://www.tfc.texas.gov/wall/
JUNE 18, 2025 – Texas Facilities Commission (TFC) Executive Director Mike Novak reported Wednesday, June 18, 2025, that 66.4 miles of the border wall program had been completed as of June 18, 2025. Active construction is simultaneously underway at 15 locations in six border areas: Cameron, Starr, Zapata, Webb, Maverick, and Val Verde Counties.
The Texas Facilities Commission has closed on 127 easements for the Texas Border Wall. In addition, there are 19 signed easement agreements in the closing process. TFC has an additional 114 miles of easements in various phases of interest, negotiation, and closing.
As previously noted in reports, the 87th, 88th, and 88-4 legislative sessions appropriated funds for the program, and donated funds are also being used.
Some people may recall,
that in 2019,
congress was willing to do a government shutdown – and did so – to avoid providing funding for the border wall.
However, the funding mechanisms began so that the border wall construction could begin.
[ from Jan. 2021, to Jan 2025, the border wall construction was stopped via brandon admin. ]
The border wall environmental reviews, easements, planning, construction is now in full swing…
p.s.
In 2006,
The Secure Fence Act was passed by Congress.
https://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2006/10/20061026-1.html
But, DC, Congress would not fully fund the wall …for almost 20 years…
…hmmm…
In Summary,
Promises made, promises being kept... (easier said, than done)
: )
If either wing of the uniparty had really wanted to stop illegal immigration, it would have been stopped many, many years ago.
Flashback… who was the poster that used to post daily Border Wall updates… complete with facts, figures, and pictures…
I think it was Stillwater?
I think you may be correct… good times… good times…
Thank you posting this good news.
Epstein Epstein Epstein!!! 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
Enough already! There are way more important and critical issues and problems to focus on! What a complete waste of time!
I concur. I’m a realist – also, I believe there are some on the list that were put on simply to blackmail: try to prove you weren’t there once the list is published.
Plus, it’s the CIA, et Al’s list anyway combined with the fact that nothing will happen to those that went there anyway. Most likely the statute of limitations has run out on 95% of those involved.
I’d rather focus on growing the economy, keeping the next 10 million illegal democrats out of the US, etc than waste energy on something that will go nowhere.
may all Treepers have a grand relaxing evening……
Just lacking me and treepers on a paddleboard….
Yes…you too!
Thank you!
Lovely and calm scene.
Hope your evening is relaxing, as well.
Beautiful and serene…and willing to think there are absolutely no mosquitos and “no sees” out there. ( they love me!)
I suspect the “Evidence” was destroyed years ago . . .
Epstein evidently worked for MI 6 . . .
Watch the video . . . search the title on YT . . .
“MANDELSON’S REVENGE: How Britain’s New Ambassador Plans to DESTROY Trump’s Economic Revolution”
Looks like Ed Martin just found out he’s been assigned the Epstein investigation.
It seems to me that President Trump’s ire is focused on one group of ‘supporters’ and not the loyal MAGA core, when he says ‘
‘Their new SCAM is what we will forever call the Jeffrey Epstein Hoax, and my PAST supporters have bought into this ‘bulls‑‑‑,’ hook, line, and sinker,” Trump posted. “They haven’t learned their lesson, and probably never will, even after being conned by the Lunatic Left for 8 long years.’
Quite why core MAGA supporters include themselves in the group who’ve been ‘conned by the Lunatic Left for 8 long years’ is a mystery. He’s obviously targeting what he suspects to be a 5th column operation, using so called MAGA influencers and supporters, not the people who stood by him, unwavering in their support, as the DS used every trick in its book to stop him from becoming ‘47.
“It seems to me that President Trump’s ire is focused on one group of ‘supporters’ and not the loyal MAGA core,”
Ssssshhhhh don’t tell them. The pretense is real.
These isn’t just one group of supporters , the people who are hurt the most are his longest most loyal followers. They expect better from him.
I would say the newest supporters would be the ones who don’t care nearly as much.
I am one of “his longest most loyal followers”. I am not hurt. I have been a fan of Donald Trump long before the faux MAGA outrage crew started “supporting” him.
Reply to CountryClassVulgarian
These isn’t just one group of supporters , the people who are hurt the most are his longest most loyal followers. They expect better from him.
I would say the newest supporters would be the ones who don’t care nearly as much.
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r0ng.
0.o
I’ve been a supporter since he came down the elevator and this doesn’t come close to anything which would “hurt” me. Now I know why the Republicans can’t win. They turn on the very people who are fighting the hardest for them. It is so insane.
I think your posts on this topic are divisive and nonsensical, at best.
As a solid long time Trump supporter, I’m not in the least “hurt” or feeling put out.
Too many folks are buying (and selling) fried ice cream over this.
7.2 earthquake in the Aleutians, tsunami warning for the coast of Alaska.
No, no, and no
HERE WE GO: RINO Congresswoman Maria Salazar Introduces Bipartisan Mass Amnesty “Dignity Act” to Provide “Earned Opportunity” for Millions of Illegals to Stay and Work – “Yes, They Broke the Law, but…” (VIDEO)
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/07/here-we-go-rino-congresswoman-maria-salazar-introduces/
She keeps pushing this… it seems to be her only reason for becoming a Congress Woman. Non-stop during President Trump’s last term…. and here she goes again.
Just ignore her.
My understanding has been Trumps name appears in the aircraft log books. Trumps plane was in maintenance and Trump flew in Epstein’s plane from Florida to New York.
Any passenger of any aircraft is logged in the aircraft log-book. This also goes for all and any military aircraft.
If someone else had posted this apologize, but I don’t have time to read all 4 pages right now.
For most Christians I think they will see this as good news. The IRS relents on taking away tax free status for churches/pastors endorsing candidates.
https://townhall.com/columnists/jordan-sekulow/2025/07/16/the-pulpit-is-free-again-irs-makes-historic-concession-n2660477
I don’t give a flip about Epstein. He is dead. How about the living, like Lois Lerner?
She would be a start.
Candace Owens didn’t kill herself.
WOW! This lady deserves a Pulitzer.
https://rumble.com/v6w9l32-the-epstein-files-dead-men-tell-no-tales-an-introduction.html?e9s=src_v1_sa%2Csrc_v1_sa_o%2Csrc_v1_ucp_a
We aren’t stupid. We know Epstein had cameras that captured these pedophiles participating in despicable acts that he used to blackmail. It wasn’t just for personal and financial gain, and we know Epstein did not set up cameras to record himself in whichever room he decided to rape young girls.
We know Trump is not involved or they would have used that against him instead of all the other bullshit trials and charges they used.
Here is the problem. Whatever the FBI “confiscated” in the raids of Epstein’s properties is not in the possession of the FBI or DOJ any longer. They have either been destroyed (most likely) or relocated elsewhere, allowing the blackmail to continue.
To release what we know about Epstein would reveal how our government and Israel have used the rape of children to blackmail and political purposes. Think about it. State-sanctioned assassinations and murder are illegal. But to use children to be raped as bait would be enough to upend our country as we know it. Markets would tank, civil unrest would unfurl, and our country would be shoved into a Civil War. Meanwhile, Arab states and the rest of the world would attack and turn their backs on Israel and could conceivably bring about another Holocaust.
Some argue that releasing the information would destroy our country. But refusing to use sunshine as the disinfectant changes just what we are trying to save. If we are willing to allow pedophiles to get away with raping children, then the very ideals of our founders that justice is blind and equal is rendered bullshit.
Think about the Catholic church and the Vatican. Look at the church and how it suffered when the pedophile priests molested those altar boys. The Catholic church has never recovered its credibility from it. Not just because of the deeds, but more from the cover-up and lack of accountability or even acknowledgment.
Is our country worth saving if allowing powerful and connected pedophiles to get away with the rape of children just so it doesn’t collapse financially or socially? No one wants to be the President who pulls back the curtain and admits the heinous shit done by our government, including Trump. But if we have arrived at the point that allowing pedophiles to rape kids to keep the country from collapsing, then perhaps there is your reason to burn down the government and salt the earth behind it.
The documents had over 80% democrats on it including Judges and media personalities some still current . That was never going to be released even if Trump was listed on it which he wasn’t . Trump saying that the list is now the result of the Obama/Biden clan indicates to me he’s been recently added or he thinks we’re stupid. If he was recently added that likely happened immediately after he won his second term in an attempt to keep him from releasing it.
Exactly. Any crimes against children must be investigated, charged & prosecuted. We must advocate for the children.
This is a lesson in honesty , the fact that we never got it is why the Epstein debacle continues . The people who say drop it enough is enough are wasting their time , it’s not going to happen. Not that we don’t want it to happen it’s because it all comes down to the “Trust issue” .
It appears it’s not even possible to release Epstein evidence due to the courts , why on earth didn’t the administration just say that from the beginning ? The people did not cause this , some who are part of the Trump administration caused this and the excuses for not releasing info is getting worse and worse by the day.
The people who support Trump are highly intelligent and educated people with many former democrats , independents and conservatives . These people are not the type who just support any candidate regardless of what crimes they have committed , these people support Trump because he’s a straight shooter and doesn’t lie to them .
Many loyalists feel they have been lied to now and that’s what this is all about , it’s not trolls trying to cause division . It’s Trump diehards who expect better . They’re extremely disappointed . They aren’t just going to move on because their core believe and faith in Trump has been damaged .
Maybe they need to grow up? in the real world, daddy will not always do what his children would like.
Maybe these poor disappointed supporters whose faith has been damaged need to consider that President Trump doesn’t want to deal with the sordid details. These so called supporters need to consider that President Trump is working day and night on several key and complex problems that affect all our lives and he just doesn’t want to spread his bandwidth to include Epstein.
How do I know this? He said so.
By the way, he doesn’t even take a salary for working 24/7 and taking incoming everyday from all directions.
The so called supporters don’t get to demand that President Trump does even more than he is doing.
Maybe we should not put words in the supporters’ mouths. If they are somewhat disappointed because they are listening to the media hype, then they should know better by now since we’ve been through this same attack ad nauseum. The real maga will understand and get settled once they realize what’s actually important.
more winning:
Producer Price Index —> there was No Inflation in June
https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2025/07/16/producer-prices-there-was-no-inflation-at-all-in-june/
I think you people are awful for using up the bandwidth of CTH to continue to harp over and over about Epstein.
I just got through counting the number of times his name was mentioned in the 905 comments on this one thread today.
I GOT TIRED OF COUNTING WHEN I REACHED OVER 1,000 TIMES THAT NAME WAS MENTIONED.
Perhaps everyone should consider a donation for wasting CTH bandwidth….
Ugh. That is an awful thing to wear and she should know better but methinks Nan from San Fran has a few loose brain cells flopping around now. She should retire and get away from DC.
Trump 1st Term…
RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA
Trump 2nd Term…
EPSTEIN EPSTEIN EPSTEIN
I think that is at the bottom of Trump’s frustration.
—–
Julie Kelly 🇺🇸
@julie_kelly2
I cannot blame the president for his frustration…
Cont reading..
And everything he has done the last seven months to turn the ship around gets thrown out because epstein. Its sick and disgusting. Now they are claiming he is an epstein “client”. Talk about betrayal.
Love me some Julie Kelly… but she’s a little over-the-top Chicken Little on this one…
“Never understood the demands over this case–and now it has created the biggest crisis in the Trump presidency so far with no foreseeable chance of resolution or appeasement of he “EPSTEIN FILE” drum beaters. Hope y’all are happy”
I see she failed to mention any of the following persons by name, all of whom were riding the Epstein Express with First Class tickets up until not too long ago:
JD Vance … Vice President of the United States
Pam Bondi … United States Attorney General
Kash Patel … Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation
Dan Bongino … Deputy Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation
… not to mention a whole gaggle of well-known U.S. Representatives and Senators.
Hey, don’t shoot me, Julie Kelly… I’m just the messenger…
July 16, 2025 6:49 pm
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
BREAKING: Maurene Comey, daughter of James Comey, is fired from her job as a federal prosecutor — Politico
https://t.me/insiderpaper/37255
BREAKING: Pam Bondi has fired Maurene Comey, daughter of James Comey, from her job as a prosecutor in the Manhattan U.S. attorney’s office, per Politico. She worked on the prosectuions of Ghislaine Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein, and Sean “Diddy” Combs.
https://t.me/CharlieKirk/20302
“bout time.
There were seashells on the beach that spelled “86 MC’s job”.
I wonder what that could refer to.
HALLEJULAH.
0.o
Another “Republican” clamoring for “work permits” for those poor illegal aliens.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/07/here-we-go-rino-congresswoman-maria-salazar-introduces/
Good grief! Somebody in Florida, please primary this dingbat.
Former Univision reporter, I think? I’d say at best a center-right Democrat…
Univision reporter 1988-1992
Telemundo reporter 1992-2002
Bondi is DS. Isn’t that what we learned here with TMartincase
Increasingly the behavior of all involved leads me to a logical conclusion as to what is going on. Follow me here on my trail of analysis:
I do not pretend to know which of these scenarios is reality, if any at all. But using Occum’s Razor steers us toward simply finding nasty details that Trump wants buried. None of it may touch him, but if it threatens enough conservative members of Congress or SCOTUS, it does threaten him and our country. If real, is that a good reason to suppress the truth?
I too believe PT needs to keep Congress intact.
“If there are no consequences for bad behavior, the bad behavior will continue.”
The Dems sailed that ship out of port a long, long time ago. Consequences for Democrats are job promotions and book deals. Maybe we will get some significant ones during this term. Hope so.
Agree with many who say if there was anything there that could hurt PDJT, it would have been released already. Pure logic.
I’ve also read there were terabytes of video of child abuse. Terabytes are a lot of video. Are any adult perps captured in these videos? Adult perps on video committing crimes? Yes or no?
Proceed accordingly.
Was going to post a diatribe about the debacle with the young ladies, and yes, his predilection was for 16-18 year olds, procured for him by Maxwell.
Scrolling through and saw another beautiful photo posted by bjorkdream. Reminded that I’m headed out on vacation for a week with the kids and grands, with limited internet.
Highly recommend many on here do the same. Touch grass, wander the woods, swim in a lake. Blessings to you all.
One thing that no one ever mentions. These girls weren’t trafficked, there were never any missing child reports. They were the daughters of those in his orbit. Parents let them go, the girls went willingly, granted they likely didn’t know what they were in for. They were treated well, not abused, paid well, certainly compensated well after the fact. Deplorable behavior all the way around, no doubt. Virginia seemed to be doing well until something happened, years after, she was obviously seeking help with the accident stunt. May she rest in peace.
I say this as a mother and grandmother.
Benny Johnson
@bennyjohnson
Comedian Shane Gillis calls January 6th ‘staged’ and makes a Jeffery Epstein murder joke that has crowd ROARING at the ESPYS.
We control culture now.
Video linked….
Trump knows the Streisand effect. Nothing says “look at this more” than “nothing to see here, let’s move on!”
Benny Johnson
@bennyjohnson
I asked Trump’s EPA Administrator why the Federal Government is allowed to control the weather: ‘Is God not good enough?’
Zeldin: “Weather modification is real.
Cont (and video linked)…
Never mess with Mother Nature.
Watching the Recision amendment process, I know, it is like watching paint dry bit it is my thing when it comes to our important bills.
Murcouski (sp) is up to something nefarious. She is in a lengthy conversation with the parliamentarian and a Dem is beside her. She was in a lengthy conversation with two Repubs before that with a lot of emphatic gestures going on. Hmmm.🤔
Now she is in a long conversation with Dem Senator Murray. Working on some kind of paperwork by the looks of it.
The vote count has been at 49 yes and 51 no to send the bill back to committee for at least the last ten minutes and recorder just sits there, then Bernie comes by with yes sign making it 49 to 51 and she did not record it. Then there is a shift change, what a farce. They will be here all night.n
The new recorder has been on her cell phone for many, many minutes and is now perusing her laptop. Don’t you just love it. Out tax dollars at work. Ah Well!
Still waiting. Last post on this, promise.
She’s MISSING Dianne Feinstein Being in her face…
TMK
@TheMagaKing2_0
Here’s a list of everything Donald Trump has done to fight pedophiles and child sex trafficking. But yeah, go ahead and call him, and his supporters pedophiles.
Cont…
“go ahead and call him, and his supporters pedophiles”
Huh? Wha? Who’s doing that? What in the hell is this guy talking about? First I heard of it…
Denver Christian Coffee Shop Facing Communist Protests After Helping Homeless
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/07/15/denver-christian-coffee-shop-facing-communist-protests-after-helping-homeless/?twclid=21mvrqtoii86ovimnjji9tgm6j