I’m becoming increasingly convinced that people on the ConInc side of the conversation also need to pretend not to know things.
There is an increased sentiment of frustration toward President Donald Trump being espoused, and obviously that will be amplified by those who want to use a narrative of “increased sentiment of frustration toward President Trump.”
The part that surprises me is the part where people seem to have forgotten the purpose of the U.S. Senate.
CONTEXT – Currently there is a Big Beautiful Bill (BBB) in the senate, the culmination of years of work by President Trump and his team together with politicians in congress. There is no smaller BBB, there is no modified BBB, there is only one big comprehensive package of initiatives and priorities for President Trump’s agenda. One Big Beautiful Bill.
That’s it. Just this one legislative priority that has all the stuff Donald Trump promised in the 2024 election. It’s all in one bill; all of it. As a consequence, President Trump needs this bill to pass congress; there is no fallback position; there is no alternative; there is no safer option. The BBB is an all or nothing swing for the fences.
GAINING VOTES – This BBB is the legislative package approach that President Trump accepted. As a consequence whatever it takes to get that BBB legislation passed, is exactly what we should expect to see done. Remember, this is a legislative construct that only targets REPUBLICAN VOTES. Republicans control every element of this BBB discussion.
People not happy about President Trump remarks about illegal-alien farm workers. Well, President Trump is buying gaining the votes of Big Ag state senators.
People not happy about President Trump support for Israel. Well, President Trump is buying gaining the votes of Big War senators.
People not happy about President Trump support for more Ukraine weapons against a peace initiative targeting Vladimir Putin. Again, President Trump is buying gaining the votes of the defense contractor senators.
These are just a few examples of stuff in the background. The passage of the BBB is a priority for President Trump and every Republican senator knows this. Every single republican senator is willing to blackmail President Trump to get support for their vote.
People not happy about (____fill in blank___) as a Trump compromise, need to understand there is no alternative to the BBB that contains all of the legislative priorities of Trump. If the bill fails, he fails. Whatever is needed for passage will be done.
If doing ‘whatever it takes‘ hurts our worldview, ideological preferences or even, wait for it, feelings, welcome to politics.
President Donald Trump – “Our Nation’s ICE Officers have shown incredible strength, determination, and courage as they facilitate a very important mission, the largest Mass Deportation Operation of Illegal Aliens in History. Every day, the Brave Men and Women of ICE are subjected to violence, harassment, and even threats from Radical Democrat Politicians, but nothing will stop us from executing our mission, and fulfilling our Mandate to the American People. ICE Officers are herewith ordered, by notice of this TRUTH, to do all in their power to achieve the very important goal of delivering the single largest Mass Deportation Program in History.”
“In order to achieve this, we must expand efforts to detain and deport Illegal Aliens in America’s largest Cities, such as Los Angeles, Chicago, and New York, where Millions upon Millions of Illegal Aliens reside. These, and other such Cities, are the core of the Democrat Power Center, where they use Illegal Aliens to expand their Voter Base, cheat in Elections, and grow the Welfare State, robbing good paying Jobs and Benefits from Hardworking American Citizens.
These Radical Left Democrats are sick of mind, hate our Country, and actually want to destroy our Inner Cities — And they are doing a good job of it! There is something wrong with them. That is why they believe in Open Borders, Transgender for Everybody, and Men playing in Women’s Sports — And that is why I want ICE, Border Patrol, and our Great and Patriotic Law Enforcement Officers, to FOCUS on our crime ridden and deadly Inner Cities, and those places where Sanctuary Cities play such a big role. You don’t hear about Sanctuary Cities in our Heartland!”
“I want our Brave ICE Officers to know that REAL Americans are cheering you on every day. The American People want our Cities, Schools, and Communities to be SAFE and FREE from Illegal Alien Crime, Conflict, and Chaos. That’s why I have directed my entire Administration to put every resource possible behind this effort, and reverse the tide of Mass Destruction Migration that has turned once Idyllic Towns into scenes of Third World Dystopia. Our Federal Government will continue to be focused on the REMIGRATION of Aliens to the places from where they came, and preventing the admission of ANYONE who undermines the domestic tranquility of the United States.
To ICE, FBI, DEA, ATF, the Patriots at Pentagon and the State Department, you have my unwavering support. Now go, GET THE JOB DONE!” DJT
“Whatever it takes”…he’ll get it done, it will pass. And he’ll likely deal with the minutia another day.
If wishes were horses
Then beggars would ride…
The President is trying to do what’s possible – not what’s impossible.
The administration has a very slim majority in the house – and only a slight majority in the senate.
IF DJT had overwhelming MAGA support in both houses, it’s a different ballgame – but as it is,
The GOP
(aka Greedy Old Politicians) is full of anti/never-Trumpers, who would figuratively stab DJT in the back in a dark alley.
Do I like every single thing in this bill?
Of course not.
Do I think this is as much as the President can do right now?
Yes.
And, its not by accidennt, circummstance or the will of the electorate, expressed through ljegitimate elections, that have PDJT working with sych slim majority; it was INTENTIONAL, as the GOP intentionally gave away seats, SO THAT it would weaken PDJT.
They did it ON PURPOSE.
Here’s how I see it.
We are keeping President Trump alive by our contribution to his unprecedented poll numbers.
He is walking a tight rope across a river of piranhas, whose ranks are swelling by the day.
They will move in for the kill and tear him to shreds if we fail to maintain that level of support.
He is fighting for his life, and we must fight with him. We are at war. Time to buckle up
💯
You’ve now why down ballot cheating was so important on the past two congressional elections.
Opening up the possibility of WWIII by going to war against Iran is not “minutia”.
There’s not much left of Iran.
There won’t be WW3; Israel has this clearly well in hand and needs to finish it once and for all.
It seems highly likely that the Iranian people will finally succeed in rising up against the scum mullah class.
Sarcasm? Lunacy?
Minutia like preventing a nuclear war? Disrupting businesses with flip-flopping on tariffs?
Which businesses were disrupted? Were there distributed talking points before you bad of idiots logged on today?
One can add that the BBB is central to stimulating the economy and bringing in somewhat committed multi trillion dollars of investment.
Yes the BBB cuts the deficit from almost a trillion a month to a trillion a year, yet that is not a proper accounting for the Laffer curve.
This investment is critical to protect the dollar reserve currency status, which our own policies and wrong leverage has abused and is cause to BRICS expansion.
However the US losing reserve currency status will be a not insignificant factor in a potential global depression.
Pass the BBB, get rid of some RINOS and dominate the midterms, and then go after the DOGE revelations and waste fraud abuse and deep state with gusto.
Thank you.
Now would be the time to step up and be heard….
Call your Senator and be counted…
This is our battle too…
Excellent advise!!
my senators are two ballot stuffed drunken jagoffs named kaine and warner
So sorry…
Make their people work…the more time they spend answering our calls the less time they spend answering theirs….
Yes, we are truly cursed.
Mine are Martin Heinrich and Ben Ray Luján.
I feel your pain. Mine are Ossoff and Warlock.
I’m Sorry?
Oh… I heard what you said…. I’m just sorry too!
I got you all trumped…..we have two R’s named Thune and Rounds and are more D than the d’s
Could be worse
We have Dickless Durbin and Quack Quack Duckworth ( ‘What’s a Duckworth?’ ‘ Not much ‘)
Am here not far from the ‘hood….I refer to those two as IL’s ‘double d’s’…
Mine are ossoff and warlock which puts us about even. Who would have ever thought GA having blue senators ( cheating)
The cheaters thought of it.
condolences – mine are Lankford and Mullin; while not drunkards (that I’m aware of) they are weasels and they do what weasels do
Installed shiz bags.
Ditto. Useless to call those two wastes of space and air.
I understand your frustration. Mine are also two completely useless and corrupt hard-Leftwing Commiecrats – Chris Van Hollen and the newly-selected tool (I refrain from repeating the lie that she was legitimately elected), Angela Alsobrooks. I might as well send them a copy of the Constitution’s 14th Amendment; they’d ignore that too.
Alsobrooks is the freaking worst. UGH
You can say that again…. (100 more times at minimum….🙄 🤬)
Your voice and mine are meaningless. They figured out how to get reelected—they do not need our voices. Remember, it was the conservative SCOTUS that refused to hear Texas v. Pennsylvania. What was the reason again? “Lack of standing.”
You cannot say one thing and then contradict yourself. We either have fair elections or we do not. You cannot have it both ways. I believe we do not have fair and free elections in this country. So Trump must have made a deal. That would explain why he cannot deliver.
Follow the logic—you do not get to cherry-pick.
Which logic did you display?
Rand Paul and Thomas Massie get insulted and raked over the coals every day on X by everyday Americans and they don’t care. The thousands of comments that they get telling them that they are traitors and losers has not moved them one inch.
He is delivering. Your problem is you live in an all or nothing reality reminiscent of how a two-year old thinks.
I think that’s the reason he hasn’t fully dropped Z. I think there’s plenty one thing he’s avoiding is the sanctions bill. But that may be why there’s supposedly talk about watering the language down.
Is there a shift change if/when it passes?
This is, precisely, why there is no “political” solution.
…welcome to politics
So what the grifting Republican senators (and their paymasters, the lobbyists) are telling the people who put them where they are is this…
We get what we want and we’ll let you have your tax decreases; if we don’t, we will make sure you all suffer the biggest increase in taxes ever.
Does that sound about right?
My contempt for these people grows exponentially every day.
This is what it all boils down to…
The faces may change, but the stupifying corruption never does.
Blackmail indeed.
Correct Betsy…was thinking about this the other day. How the entire American populace and President is entirely beholden to the branch that was actually set up by the Founding Fathers to reflect and do the wishes of the American people themselves. They have become the branch that is 100% for THEMSELVES…somehow we have let this happen over the past 50 years…They control the entire government. And they know it. I am not sure how to fix it other than repealing the 17th Amendment which SD speaks of alot but not sure how to make that happen since the very people who benefit from it would have to vote for it…
“I am not sure how to fix it“… for the best starter, WE need to figure out how to expose the individual corruption of each of them … There are some people who are holding the dark secrets (insider trading, sex trafficking, bribery, pedofiles, settlement payments for sexual harassment, Epstein affiliates, ets, etc); how we get that information exposed is the key to opening the door that will stop this corruption.
But let’s first get the BBB passed !
Jail house bling, orange jumpsuits and perp walks.
Madigan got something like 7 years in IL, ya almost would think he was a governor/s….when eligible for over 100 years for all his grift graft with the cronies at the electric company, now wonder the dividend is paltry.
This has to be done at the state level in order to get new, vetted candidates for office.
I’m not sure either, Michelle.
It’s easy enough to identify the. problem. Not so much the solution.
Repealing the 17th only leaves the decision in the hands of a corrupt State GOP. Plus it would take, I’m betting, years to enact, if ever. I mean, which corruptocrat would make it easy for voters to put them out of their lucrative sinecures?
In the end, the Constitution was designed only for a moral people. I doubt I’d find any who would disagree with me when I say that this Republic has morphed into something which in no way could be called “moral”.
Painful to have to say it.
Even more painful to live in a nation whose elected leaders aren’t either.
Well here has been my idea since we won…So pretty much these guys from the moment they walk into congress become either blackmailed or bribed….it is a fact. OK don’t we OWN the DS now? Don’t we now OWN all the blackmail material? Wherever it is, FBI/CIA? Can’t we now use that to get rid of some of these guys? I mean won’t that put a bit of a dent in Congress that we can vote in some MAGA? Then use those new MAGA to attempt to get rid of the other “B”, the Bribery with voting on financing or term limits or something along that line? Otherwise all we are doing is playing wack a mole…one congress/senator at a time…we need to get rid of a good amount all at once some way…
Yearly certified financial statements would be useful…
As well as certified statements of donations and their sources and stock trading (including the timing of purchases/ selling as relates to legislation, rules, or regulations under consideration).
For new members, first statements due before their oaths, or “oaths”, are administered.
Not sure in the end what that would accomplish except to lay bare any and all sources of corruption/conflicts of interest.
Who has bought influence and for how much.
What we really need are a nation full of voters who are paying attention.
I’ll go on and preempt any replies…
Fat chance.
If “We” owned the blackmail material, then Patel and Bongino would not have tried to sell the “Epstein killed himself” BS.
This Deep State is much deeper than it appears…
someone recommended they be required to wear the banners of their donors (like race car teams); which is a very good idea
For example:
Very powerful!
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Cheers!
Y’all north of our border have your own problems, my dear friend.
Corruption is no respecter of boundaries.
Politics is just naked force with its gloves on.
“These Radical Left Democrats are sick of mind, hate our Country, and actually want to destroy our Inner Cities — And they are doing a good job of it! There is something wrong with them.”
That is as true as the day is long, and pretty much explains everything.
It is known as mentally ill, and they most certainly are. 200 years ago they would have been placed into insane asylums. That shows you how far civilization has sunk. Bedlam was filled with men wearing dresses, and ladies wigs.
No.
Not mentally ill.
They wouldn’t be able to help being mentally ill.
Evil.
Don’t cut them any slack.
What they are doing is a choice.
If you excuse it by saying they are mentally ill you might as well bare your throat and let them tear it out now.
Excusing evil makes you vulnerable to it.
Evil LOVES to hide behind the facade of mental illness.
Their actions reflect the innermost desires of their souls.
It is a conscious choice.
We battle not against flesh and blood.
Remember that.
Not just your life, but your soul, depends on never forgetting that.
Looking at YOU Granpa Ethanol ! 90 year old snake in the Grassley.
But but but…gas is 20 cents cheaper and ya get a clogged engine and a destroyed catalytic converter?/s
Big Ag, big Pharma, and big Defense run the senate. Our Founding Fathers would tar and feather every one of them. They must be spinning in their graves to see what America has become. It’s sickening really.
That’s a nice meat packing plant you have there. I’m very glad to hear all your employees are US citizens. We’ll do what we can for you in this bill, and I’m sure you’ll continue to hire only US citizens because we wouldn’t want anything to happen to that big beautiful plant!
Or we can just make all the illegal aliens citizens.
How about that??
Will that do ya?
Nope…not even close. Won’t do at all.
The Dems would do it, Aggie.
And I’m pretty sure the RINOs, once having given away their majorities because righteous governance is just “too haaaaaard!!!” would turn to us, throw up their hands, and plead, “What could we do?? We don’t have control of either the House or the Senate, or the Presidency!!”
They’ve got form on this…right, Paul Ryan?
I’ve never been as sure of anything as I am of this…the entire Globalist Uniparty, bar single digit numbers who retain their personal and Constitutional ethics and law and order patriotism, are all in for amnesty and citizenship for criminal illegals.
NO! HELL NO!!! What you feed and pay attention to grows
Should have added a sarc tag, I guess…
But make no mistake, Jann. Next Dem President in (God forbid 🙏🏻), that’s what will happen. Anyone paying attention can see it coming.
Just like the repellent SC decision on gay “marriage”…
” Everyone should be able to love whom they choose,” said Justice Kennedy.
That’s the only thing proponents of this terrible ruling said they wanted.
Now look where we are.
Yep.
Betcha.
Blast this far and wide. These Senators are ANTI American and PRO Illegals. They cannot cloak themselves in the Flag. Traitors!
Thank you for that, Sundance. I’m placing an order with Meriwether Farms!
They are pro whatever pays them and keeps them in their position.
Not sure what planet the Meriwether folks are farming on, but in 2018while I was still living in Ohio, ICE staged a surprise raid on a major national meat packing company located in a neighboring town. They closed the place down and netted a large number of illegals fleeing the building.
It had several locations throughout the state, all of which were raided, and made national news.
called both my senators, relayed my expectations to them ….. vote for it, or you go home next time around.
Thank you for providing clarity lest we all forget that President Trump is a master negotiator.
The fake news is doing their part to cause divide . AM radio station that I had on this morning uses Fox for their hourly 5 minute national “news” update. “Inside sources are saying Stephen Miller is angry and at odds with Trump over the farm and hospitality alien workers decision” or something very similar.
Of course, the media will sow discord. It’s not like they’re good for anything else.
However, the media’s arrogance is its Achilles heel. And I think that arrogance is being used against them. In this instance, there are news reports that ICE is being directed to focus on the big cities where the big numbers of illegals are. Those reports will inflame the usual political suspects and the commie-democrat base. But it makes good business sense. The idiot left will continue rioting and burning and drawing support from commie-democrat politicians. And ICE will get more illegals to feature on TV ads before shipping them the hell out of our country.
If you see some validity in my premise, then look at the coverage of Israel – Iran next. It’ll be happening in this case too!
https://notthebee.com/article/nebraska-meat-packing-plant-lost-lots-of-workers-after-huge-ice-raid-and-youll-never-guess-what-happened-next
I seem to recall Newt Gingrich advocating for one big bill, rather than a series of smaller bills, and the need to get it done early.
It’s important to get the economic stuff into action quickly, so it will be felt in 2026.
The fear was that multiple smaller bills would get into place too late to be effective.
The goal is to gain House seats in the midterms.
I’m not pleased with President Trump over Palantir or CBDC. What was he gaining there? JD’s vote?
Right there with ya. People can yammar all they want about horse trading…but we are being sold down the river as the prison walls are erected with trumps support. People can flame me here all they want but I had only a few red lines required for my support.
1. Deport all illegals
2. Stop the electronic prison being built – palantir, surveillance, and cbdc.
Since we will be sold down the river, my support has evaporated. I couldn’t give 2 shits less about “welcome to politics”
I sincerely hope you are adapt as a survivalist or locate that ‘ideal’ country , because in the world of US ‘politics’, you have NO ONE that possesses the popular/political support of the ‘pure’ positions you are demanding.
Your #1 is my red line in the MAGA sand.
YES!!!!! I AGREE Okie! 100%.
You don’t think there are Senators that are owned by Big Tech?BOY, are you naive!
So that makes it A-OK to jam this system in using the creepiest of the of Anti-Humanity Bunch because the joke of a Senate has put themselves and by extension us over every barrel they could find?
C’mon Dutch, I might be a slightly burnt out but I am anything but naive.
Just the fact that JD Vance, and the other palantir guy (the liberal small hat guy – Alex Karp I think) was at bilderberg where depopulation was on the agenda is enough to make me convulse
Interesting at that same masonic/satanic/Marxist Bilderberg meeting in Scandinavia. were two top US Army commanders, the European one and the Pacific one – oh and also that great American Soup Man John Kerry.
Alex Jones reminded me the other day that Mr.Karp’s biggest fear “is being thrown off a tall building by Christian Nationalists”.. just the guy we want setting up the hellscape we will be saddled with the minute President Trump leaves Office.
Also, what’s the deal with Peter Thiel and his alleged ties to Epstein??
While your at it, what was Stacy Abrams doing at Bilderburg?
She come into a lot of money recently or something?
At this point, I have stopped questioning and being disappointed (angry, frustrated, etc.) with President Trump. I trust him to do the best job that he can for us. I can’t think of another soul on this planet that I could trust more to weave their way through the morass that is our current political system.
I am just praying (a LOT) for him, and trusting him to do the best he can. No one is perfect and he can’t satisfy everyone.
A timely reminder of the back-room dealings that get bills through Congress.
President Trump being pragmatic is going to get the best deal that he can for all of us in the now. Getting most of the loaf of bread is better than none. Besides, once all of that is out of the way there is little to stop the gains from being expanded upon further in the near future.
How do ants eat an elephant? One bite at a time. And so for us gaining some of these victories will set the stage for the next ones. A day at a time, one problem at a time. Keep eyes on the goal and do not give up when things go sideways along the way.
Totally agree. Trump will Never sell America down the river. One bite at a time is better than none and this is a pretty big bite. As for surveillance, it’s coming, no matter what Trump does.
Party time until the killer robots stomp our skulls like egg shells? I gave up drinking and pills years ago.
SD —- thanks for the Common Sense MOAB on this topic!
It is so frustrating that so many otherwise smart people constantly let “the perfect be the enemy of the good”.
In my opinion, the majority of small govt conservatives are pragmatic. However, the politically naive and ideologically inconstant would be my guess as to why some of these supporters chose the purity spiral. President Trump for the win!
The Israel conflict heaped on the
illegal invaders issue – are attempts to
break the MAGA base.
Almost like it was intentional.🤷♀️
Timing is everything ⌛️⏳
Who all was at that Camp David party? Zoomed or otherwise? Asking for a friend.
Thank you, Sundance.
Oh commie dems. AZ
I don’t know how he deals with all the hyenas, jackals and jackasses.
PDJT complements them, acknowledges their concerns, gives them something, and sets them up so that they become his lackeys. If any of these red state reps then cross him, they are finished.
This is the way Trump negotiates. He works out the best deal for both sides and expects the other side to toe the line. Any rep that doesn’t understand that if they try to “blackmail” him, they are signing a deal with the devil side of PJDT.
PJDT takes people at their word, until they go back on their word. It’s obvious some still haven’t learned why our President is successful.
minnesotamike55
Well said!
Could have been words from The President’s mouth!
53D Chess….every one of those Senators has a piece and they’re going to play it.
Thanks to Sundance for helping me to keep my head screwed on straight in a time of weakness.
I suppose it comes down to make compromises to get this bill passed and hopefully reap the benefits of it to have a successful mid term results.
See how easy we fall into pretending? This NOT compromise. It is blackmail. By Red State Senators.
I believe we can also trust Russ Vought and the people around him as well. Their goal is to reduce the debt and to reduce spending, so I believe they are working with President Trump in the background to pare down the items in the bill (especially the ones we find most objectionable) and trim, pare and cut where possible.
We just need to have faith and support them – not be part of the yammering pack of dogs baying because we’re not getting what we want.
Yup.. we’ll have to go after the criminals that steal/stole identities in the uniparty industry big ag, meatpacking etc. likely one by one?
I understand SD. I will swallow for now these POS agriculture and Home Depot using slave labor and refusing to raise there wages so these jobs would look more favorable to American citizens.
When the Republicans blow this chance to really affect change. I will never vote either party ever again. Say what you will, I will put my name on the ballot. At the least I can and do keep my word. Results first. Vote second. All we wanted was results. Get off your high horses and do what we voted you to do. Period. We will never have another chance at this.
Make no mistake, the GOP wants to blow this all up if they can and barring that, motivate enough voters to vote against them in the next election. They want to be the minority party in Congress as that is when they make their biggest profits.
Replacing enough of the GOP members with MAGA replacements will be a generational effort and they will fight us tooth and nail for every single inch of it.
I am ready to register as a Democrat…and will if things don’t start looking better, asap.
You can’t be that desperate!
It’s actually a great idea. When the Democrats invariably get back control because Republican’ts hate being expected to hold up their Oaths of Office, the new AI instruments will single out every Republican voter for debanking and re-education or liquidation.
Good thing I’ve been an Independent since the day before Biden’s Hitler speech with the red background.
Sundance
I love your pragmatism. It is what keeps me coming back to this site.
Conservative Treehouse keeps me mentally and spiritually strong and resilient in the midst of the onslaught of propaganda bombarding us.
Oh and Alex Jones, love or hate him. A truth bomb, in the BBB also inserted an experimentation clause trying to protect big pharma from the Covid genocide activities.
Wait until the self replicating mRNA gets ripping! Alex had Dr. Tenpenny on last week and the Death Cult has more than 500 New “SmRNA” vaccines in the works!!
Fantastic perspective Sundance. Kind of reminds me of the “too big to fail” philosophy…. The uniparty will not give up control easily.
The Xtweet from Sundance is 100% true.
– Georgia State Representative: ~59,500 constituents
– Georgia State Senator: ~191,000 constituents
– U.S. Senator from Georgia: ~10.7 million constituents
That means a U.S. Senator represents:
– ~180 times more people than a state representative
– ~56 times more than a state senator
Before the 17th Amendment, our state legislature—elected by a few thousand local voters—chose your U.S. Senator. Now, our influence is one voice in over 10 million.
That’s not more representation. It’s less power, masked as a vote.
Consider that voters gained the illusion of more representation through the vote, but lost real structural representation via their state government.
The 17th Amendment democratized the Senate superficially but centralized power in Washington and nationalized political incentives, weakening the federalist structure.
Keep pushing Repeal 17, Sundance.
Bravo.
“You don’t always get what you want….but you get what you need “
And that is why over the weekend Rand Paul said he could be a “Yes” after speaking with PDJT.
Love how Rand Paul denigrated Congress about “spending too much” when he has been a willing participant in voting for spending for over a decade. Do he and Massie think we don’t see they have not accomplished a damn thing that they are constantly crowing about with all their years in DC? And most of the time voted against MAGA?
He, Massie, and those other Senators like them simply don’t care what we think.
What ever it takes…… WW3 to ensure we get the votes from the Israel First senators.
That’s what Trump is navigating.
“It takes leather balls to play rugby!” One of the few certainties here for me is that we know our man’s got ’em. 😉
Whatever it takes should include video or pic of Lady G (linsay graham)etc in a mini skirt with a see through top licking the feet of a paid escort and paying out big $$ or similar (there is a video on line of Glenn Greenwald the rabid antijew doing that).Sort of puts everything he publishes when he has a suit and tie on into a different light.I can’t unsee that.Epstein the IC have junk on everybody, remind those corrupt Senators and Congresscritters they are not who they pretend to be,pass the BBB or we reveal your uglier selves.I know DJT has nothing like that or the DeepState would have impaled him on it,They had to make shhttt up.
Right now the fiscal hawks are the biggest problem. They don’t seem to understand the importance of getting the bill passed. Though they weren’t near as vocal when Biden passed his massive debt laden bills.
The country gave the Republicans the chance, and the Republicans seem intent on blowing it, once again.
Don’t pretend.
They know exactly the importance of getting the bill passed. They just know if it fails they’ll go back to being the minority and fundraise big off the need for fiscal responsibility.
Once you see the strings and their limited move-sets, its easy to predict how the puppets will move.
I flunked pragmatism a long time ago. It never works for our side and only advances the cause of the globalists.
Sundance is absolutely right, this is the way sausage is made in Washington and it ain’t gonna change anytime soon.
Passing the BBB and TURNOUT of complacent Republican voters to counter the hair-on-fire leftist voters are are best chance of scraping out a victory in ’26 and ’28.
As the saying goes, you gotta do what you gotta do. The senate has become beholden to many special interests and it’s pathetic. I’m not thrilled with the illegal farm labor, hotel industry and Ukraine “exceptions” but as the senate is constituted today you have to make deals. This is an unfortunate circumstance today with our country’s politicians.
One big pile or fifty little piles? I guess it really doesn’t matter. Just learn to hold your nose because the smell will just keep getting worse.
I’ve written my senators reminding them why they must support this bill.
Thanks for explaining this.
A reasonable take on the situation. As the President says: Let’s see what happens.
Frankly, I am done with trusting the plan. The bill is full of pork–it shouldn’t have been that ‘controversial.’
And while I am not a big fan of Elon, and found his Epstein jab rather unbecoming, I always thought he was right about the BBB.
The amount of pork in a bill is directly proportional to the importance of passing the bill. Essentially a ransom for getting it over the threshold and Congressmen understand this.
It is not a coincidence that Congress maintains a narrow margin for the majority party in power and has for many decades.
I think I told you this at least once before: Understand the difference between a reconciliation bill (of which the BBB is) and an appropriations bill. Stephen Miller provided an excellent explanation of this last month, do some legwork and go find it.
The largest ag state in the nation, by far, has two Senators who decidedly won’t be bought or bargained with. Where I lived and worked for sixty plus years within that state has an agricultural output more than most whole ag states. Devin Nunes represented part of that area for many years before going to work for PDJT.
Recently, one of the state’s Senators was detained by law enforcement for disrupting a press conference regarding illegal aliens and the other is, well, Adam Schiff.
Myself, my old eyes and brain are struggling to read the over 1000 page bill, which is difficult even with targeted keyword searching.
However, since it is germane to the topic of the thread, I’ll post it here…
https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/1/text
I think you missed the part where Sundance wrote: “Remember, this is a legislative construct that only targets REPUBLICAN VOTES. Republicans control every element of this BBB discussion.”
Unfaithful and corrupt elected officials. Unfaithful and corrupt billionaires who gamed the American system and use their profits to destroy our way of life. How about Neville Roy Singham https://nypost.com/2025/06/11/us-news/congress-to-investigate-financiers-ties-to-china-la-riots/
Here’s what these evil rich men a paying for: https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/evg/d/seattle-demonstrators-needed/7857712648.html
An illegal alien is one thing. An illegal alien being paid 500 bucks to burn private property is a conspiracy of treason
Every single republican senator is willing to blackmail President Trump to get support for their vote.
Which is why the following is the perpetual problem which prevents major reforms via anything other than potentially transitory executive orders. Until this is fixed, forget about it:
Note how many times many of them have been reelcted:
The Conservative Review’s Liberty Score “F” rated RINO Senators (2024)
(name, score, state, years in Senate, next election)
Susan Collins F 20% ME 25 2025
Lisa Murkowski F 29% AK 20 2029
Rob Portman F 36% OH 11 2025
Roy Blunt F42% MO 11 2025
Lindsey Graham F 43% SC 19 2027
Shelley Capito F 43% WV 21 2029
Mitch McConnell F 44% KY 37 2027
Richard Burr F 46% NC 17 2025
Thom Tillis F 49% NC 7 2027
Roger Wicker F 50% MS 15 2025
Jerry Moran F 51% KS 11 2029
John Thune F 51% SD 17 2029
Todd Young F 52% IN 11 2029
Mitt Romney F 52% UT 3 2025
Mike Rounds F 52% SD 7 2027
John Cornyn F 54% TX 19 2027
Cindy Hyde-Smith F 54% MS 4 2027
Bill Cassidy F 55% LA 13 2027
Charles Grassley F 56% IA 41 2025
The “D” rated RINO Senators:
Richard Shelby D 61% AL 35 2025
John Hoeven D 62% ND 11 2029
Joni Ernst D 62% IA 7 2027
John Boozman D 64% AR 11 2029
Dan Sullivan D 64% AK 7 2027
Kevin Cramer D 64% ND 9 2025
Deb Fischer D 66% NE 9 2025
Michael Crapo D 69% ID 23 2025
Here’s why. She and her fellow recount team found people voting for right and extreme left wing candidates on the same ballot as seen in manual recounts. She said they were surprised and now have a completely different view of the average voter.
The problem with forums like these is that those here hugely overestimate the degree to which even their fellow MAGA pay attention to politics and, BTW, your friends with common interests probably aren’t a representative sample:
Meghan Reckling: Most Voters Don’t Follow Politics (1:44)
14 Dec 2024
https://rumble.com/v5z9q5z-meghan-reckling-most-voters-dont-follow-politicsmessaging-and-resources-are.html
I confess, I wish I had come up with that “Two wings of the same vulture” explanation myself. It is elegant, and I like it more each time I read it.
The fortunate thing is, all of this is now, not a year from now. Get this sausage making done now and hopefully the summer of 2026 (250th) will be more uplifting. Hopefully, and of course if we make it to summer of 2026.
Regarding the US 250th birthday. I always find it a bit humorous how that’s a big number for US when historical civilizations have on the order of 1,000+ years.
I guess US is pretty old considering the speed of technology and communication. 1,000+ year old civilization probably didn’t venture out much. Although Rome was pretty extensive.
I’ve long considered the U.S. to be an often brilliant but petulant adolescent in the realm of civilizations.
I think we should test the new and improved justice system with a million MAGA march on D.C. for the 250th next July. Occupy and celebrate. We’ll leave it cleaner than we found it; no small measure these days.
After it passes, Doge can sniff out some pork and bark about it
In regards: communication with members, especially at a level above siloed, does anyone have thoughts. The agencies appear to be, ( actually are continuing ) to push unnecessary, and damaging processes. Bugrum: ignored MAy25, and wind farm startup on the East Coast begins again – complete waste of environment and no return on investment – All subsidized by in Oregons case a foreign entity.
Corp. of Engineers and Fisheries are working to try to remove hydropower from the Dams in Oregon. Since Wind and Solar are not reliable, and there is no redundancy to damage, Hydropower is still the best solution currently. The dams are not the guilty party, the environs and junk science are. https://northwestobserver.com/index.php?ArticleId=3356
A conduit to either support, or spank, with lateral intent, to stop the political information control is urgent. Thoughts welcome.
Another: https://northwestobserver.com/index.php?ArticleId=3355
Have tested the issue by sending material through my 5th District ( Oregon ) house member – they scan every document,
and stay they forward – the test: did I get a thanks or go away? neither. If we are the owners, we have to lateralize as the
socio-communist elements and funders do.
Again thoughts, and anyone can yell at me if I have missed something, being partly deaf, will not notice.
So whatever it takes to get this BBB passed? Does that mean even if it leads to WWIII by openly and aggressively entering the war between Israel and Iran? How many treepers will take that deal? Verrrryyyy interesting. Inquiring minds want to know. Serious question.
Making permanent, the tax cuts, seems to be a huge issue? How else will WW3 be funded…asking for Miss Lindsey…
Maybe Pritzker can loan the feds some tax dollars? He has destroyed the finances of the non union work force…he never met a tax he didn’t like.
Agreed!
Who is going to start WW3 by standing with Iran if the US joins Israel?
Who?
Be specific and document your statement 😎
The U.S. would cause WW3 by overtly and openly attacking Iran. Then Iran would have nothing else to lose and will go all out and it will give Chyna the excuse and precedent set by the U.S. fighting Iran, to go after Taiwan.
Thank you
Well said Sundance! AMEN!
Practical Solutions.
The Israel issue -just piled onto
the illegal invader issue.
Both issues are 💥💥🔥
Almost seems like an intentional move
to destroy the MAGA base.
🤔 🤔 🤔
Timing is everything.
⌛️ ⏳ ⌛️
On the one hand. MAGA supporters are in awe of President Trump’s deal making abilities, as evident during his entire career. On the other hand, MAGA forgets what deal making abilities actually are, when parts of the deal doesn’t support their ‘feels’….or at least, whatever they’ve been told their feels should be.
Interesting to see a full-time professional journalist taking his audience to task because they don’t follow the subject matter as closely as a full-time professional journalist.
This is exactly what my husband said. He said President Trump has to go along to get the BBB passed.
This war is really making me crazy, though. Bibi probably conspired with various senators to hit Iran. I just hope it gets passed before we joint in with Israel.
Graham and Blumenthal’s visit just prior to the attack is good evidence of that.
Didn’t they go to Ukraine? Or was it both places?
I’m of the opinion that the hammer hasn’t been lowered on Graham and Blumenthal because the BBB needs to pass. After that, we shall see.
prior
There’s evidence for many things, but when you’re living your best life, time is valuable.
“The better we do, the more dramatic they become.” – 47
They announce themselves emotionally.
Biden did not generate one decent descendent.
At the very least, MAKE CONgress declare war. Nothing less can be accepted.
Then they own it.
accepted
AUMF (Authorization for Use of Military Force)
own
Dick Cheney said the GWOT should be renamed, The Long War.
it
Surveillance is a threat to democracy.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2019/04/11/devin-nunes-the-spying-began-in-2015/
MAGA is a threat to democracy.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dems-deploying-darpa-funded-information-warfare-tool-to-promote-biden
I think PTrump and Bibi are much smarter than the average bear. PTrump gave Iran 60 days to agree to give their uranium to Russia. They balked. Trump stood back and let Bibi go. (Israel was obviously capable of doing this at any time.) Iran could only be so bold because China has been importing their sanctioned oil. Biden turned a blind eye to this fact. PTrump won’t. I don’t believe anything happened in the last few days that surprised PTrump or SecDef Hegseth.
smarter
He gave them another chance.
It’s not the economy, it’s the stupid.
blind
81 million ballots may have been tabulated to Build Back Terror.
NeverMAGA Inc. is a make-work program for TDS influencers from NeverTrump 1.0.
surprised
If you don’t know you’re ahead of competing propaganda, you may be behind.
Do you suffer from Trump Derangement Syndrome?
https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-raimondo-trump-derangement-syndrome-20161226-story.html
war
Nation building crusades may or may not be crazy.
The “People’s Crusade” was a disaster but the first official one was a success.
conspired
When Christians captured Jerusalem they made deals w/ Genoese, Venetians, Egyptians, Sultans, and so on.
Christians were able to travel and visit Holy places for the first time in centuries with security provided by Templars.
https://www.historytoday.com/archive/feature/crusades-complete-history
Genoa and Venice were European Roman Catholic powers..
If you read the Bible, it tells us exactly which countries are going to attack Israel. There will be sorrows man has never seen before ahead, especially for the Jewish people, and all who remain in the world. That will be the Tribulation. We support Israeli people and pray for them to recognize the Messiah, Jesus Christ, has already come and some of them missed him. A lot of them did not and there have been believers for thousands of years. He will come again. Don’t know when. We pray for the peace of Jerusalem. Everyone was a Gentile before Abraham. Abraham was a Gentile before God separated out him to be head of the Jewish people. God’s grace is provided for all people of the world. Salvation is a free gift.