President Trump supporter Charlie Kirk presented a poll question on his Twitter account asking, “Should the US get involved in Israel’s war against Iran?” Almost a half million responses and the outcome is almost 90% saying no.
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There is obviously a significant majority of MAGA Republicans who do not want the U.S. military involved in more foreign conflict.
Also, it’s obvious this is not a scientific poll and more of a ‘sense’ amid the people who use Twitter; people who are often the strongest political influence voices for American politicians; but still, that is quite a remarkable outcome.
Sick and tired of Israel
So are the Mullahs.
define that. right now thats left to imagination and each person imagine differently
with that logic.
do you think China is North Korea’s bitch
Sick and tired of bots trying to create public opinion.
Fantastic–we are now siding with insane, crazy people. Thank you Tucker.
go to moonofalabama.org for current update of conflict…..
The name says it all, doesn’t it–moonofalabama.org
Not siding with them but some evil is covered and some is covered up….
Be more specific.
No one is siding with Iran.
That’s the problem, Americans think they need to pick a side in other people’s wars.
Maybe I can think of 100 better ways to spend the $3.8 billion taxpayer dollars we give to Israel. Also I don’t pledge allegiance to foreign countries.
Neither do I.
Israel does not need our money. As I have mentioned before, all Israel ever required was support at the UN Security Council and protection from sanctions imposed by friendly regimes that align with radical Muslims—mainly European countries, who are too afraid of their own massive Muslim populations. That would have been a diplomatic solution at zero dollars. But no, instead, the U.S. insists on forcing Israel to buy overpriced junk —products that the Israelis could easily manufacture themselves or buy from the open market. It is gotten so absurd that the Israelis are practically forced to purchase U.S.-made M-16s, even though they produce great firearms and sell them to U.S. civilians. The logic here is truly mind-blowing.
We are definitely being conned, just not in the way many people here believe.
Great…let them fight it out with our weapons and money.
They are supposed to be God’s “chosen” people so they should be OK without us.
G-d bless Israel.
You aren’t suppose to say that here.
In that case, allow me be the second to affirm: GOD, WHO IS THE GOD OF ABRAHAM, ISAAC, JACOB AND THE NATION OF ISREAL, and also my personal GOD and the Father of my Savior JESUS CHRIST, late of Nazareth, born in Bethlehem, a Jew; the son of one Jewess and step-son of a Jew, who came to reconcile his human Jewish heritage back to GOD. And even though he was not successful the first time, he is scheduled to return and finish the job on Satanic, antichrist haters and to reconcile THE NATION OF ISREAL back to GOD.
How do I know? GOD says so. And HE IS NEVER WRONG.
Did you forget Jesus Christ?
My mistake. Apologies.
“…and also my personal GOD and the Father of my Savior JESUS CHRIST…”
I’m not Denise, but Jesus Christ is written in all caps for everyone to see.
Hot Dog!!! I like those caps!!! Let’s sing:
JESUS CHRIST is my LORD AND SAVIOR
And I am washed in the BLOOD OF THE LAMB
Thank you Raven for your fabulous testimony!!
Will the real descendants of the ancient Israelites please stand up! There is a lot to say but no time. This is a time of great delusion. I hope many come to know him before its too late. No one goes to the father except through the son.
The problem is that this Israel is a secular state created by the Brits. Are you sure that’s what God is referring to? I have my doubts.
The Nation of Israel consists of twelve tribes who originated with the four wives of Jacob/Israel and they came out of Egypt as an entire national identity. It is the national rejection of God’s commandment to not take on the idolatrous worship of false gods by the inhabitants of what is known as “The Promised Land” that has caused the Jews all this trouble for all these centuries. To call them hard-headed is fair. To label them their own worst enemies is a breathtaking understatement. But they are going to be returned into the grace of God after all the dust settles. That will not be the case for secular Gentiles. A peek into Revelation is illuminating.
You read that in book written by men.
The book contains words written by men supposedly inspired by god, except for the mistranslations from the original texts.
The same god who used ghost writers after he went through the trouble of writing his own commandments?
Meanwhile in North and South America during the time of Christ those folks were left in the dark as the son of god walked the earth.
It all makes sense.
I have no idea what you are talking about. And sadly enough, it is your lack of faith in God’s ability to deliver his message to humanity in an ageless, continuous, inerrant written form that seems to cause you to deride the flawless historical record directed by none other than God himself.
Really ,you sound very confused.
Sure I do. Not like you, who I am guessing has never gotten closer to a Bible than a documentary on the evolution of the bipedal megalomaniac.
I AM confused as to why you cannot understand what I am saying in clear English. Must be your rejection of Jesus Christ and your eventual destination to a lovely, burning lake of sulfur and brimstone if you continue along that path. I am hoping sincerely that you accept his salvation.
Thanks for the conversation. I hope you enjoy the great American military parade today!
I’m born again babe ,I know Jesus ,you, you’re very confused.
If you and I are both saved by the blood sacrifice of the Son of God, then what are you not understanding about simple historical fact? I am not at all confused about that which I have presented today.
1] Abraham is the first-person progenitor of Nation of Israel
2] God gave Abraham and his son Isaac, and his grandson Jacob/Israel, and his twelve great-grandsons the exact property mentioned in Genesis.
3] It is an eternal contract that remains valid right now.
4] International disagreement and manipulation of that property does not invalidate the covenant God has with the Nation of Israel through Abraham.
This information is not mysterious. There is no confusion. Unless it is you that needs an interpreter to explain it again. If that is the case: Please, just keep rereading until you comprehend. And do, crack a Bible for more detailed descriptions.
I hope you are having a splendid American military parade experience.
I thought the Jewish religion missed out when they rejected Jesus Christ as the Messiah? Did the Jews lose their covenant with God after that time and so the hope of eternal life was opened up to gentiles? The early apostles were all Jewish, of course, as was Jesus.
Everyone seems to think the chosen people are still special to God but did they not reject the sacrifice of Jesus?
I am not against Jewish people or their faith, but they are not Christians. We share so much with the Jewish faith but I believe in Jesus as Messiah and deliverer of God’s word as prophesied in the bible to the Jewish people. The modern jewish religion does not and so must still be waiting for their Messiah.
I was raised Catholic and back then we were taught the Jewish people killed Jesus and they certainly were not God’s chosen people. That position did soften at some point but I don’t remember how they softened it
I don’t know how this thing about Jewish people was thought up, I think by Evangelicals, but I do not believe in it. I don’t go along with that at all. I don’t see them as special in any way….
I sat in a plane once next to a man who claimed to be Christian but all he quoted was the Old Testament. So I said to him, why do you only quote the Old Testament, not the New? He said because he did not understand Jesus at all…like he did not understand turning your cheek…he just didn’t get love and peace. Well, I said I only read what Jesus said not anyone else, particularly Paul Oh, right, he liked Paul….well l like Jesus and even though his words are often mistranslated you can get the gist of it.
The Nation of Israel, which includes all twelve tribes, have been censured by God for millennia for their rejection of the covenants they swore to abide by. Nonetheless, they remain his special people and will not be totally reconciled to God until after the coming world tribulation spoken of in the Books of Daniel and Revelation. When that is done and Jesus Christ returns for the famous “Thousand years of Peace or the Millennium”, the Jews that are left will have accepted Jesus Christ as their King.
For those reading who are Jew haters, be comforted by the fact that they will suffer greatly and their numbers will decrease dramatically. For those Christ rejectors reading, you are in grave danger of eternal damnation. It is never too late to reverse that course.
Thank you for the conversation.
I hope you enjoy the American military parade today.
The Jews (made up name) have denied Jesus as Savior,I’m guessing they’re doomed .
She should start checking out the talmud.
There’s some vile stuff they follow.
Lol, right .
The modern nation state called ‘Israel” has literally nothing to do with the “Israel” mentioned in the Bible. The people living there, mostly left-wing atheists of European origin, are not descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Not by blood, and not spiritually.
Let me guess–your IQ is around 70?
way to argue!
140, actually
Proves that pure intelligence means nothing. There are words in the Bible that speak of this.
Satan is a very intelligent guy. Look where it got him.
Dear John Paul,
With all due respect to your historical perspective, the Nation of Israel is comprised of two separate political entities that are still all descendants of founding father Abraham who wasn’t a ‘Jew’ until he submitted to the commandment of God and circumcised himself and his entire household and sons, both Ishmael and Isaac; Ishmael was circumcised first and yet, his descendants never became Jews. They are to this day enemies of their half-brother.
Judah and Israel parted political ways following the death of Solomon, during the cruel reign of his son Rehoboam [I Kings 12:16]. But the literal heritage of the Nation of Israel is still intact. There are twelve tribes and that will never alter no matter who has infiltrated the real estate deal God made with Abraham.
Thank you for your time and may we all survive our ignorance of God’s will.
“… the Nation of Israel is comprised of two separate political entities that are still all descendants of founding father Abraham”
Your saying something does not make it so. There is zero genetic evidence linking modern Jews to Abraham, and considerable genetic evidence (gathered by Jewish scientists) indicating their very diverse genetic background. What is what you’d expect from people who have spent the last two thousand years living in various parts of Europe.
Dear JohnPaul,
GOD telling you something makes it concrete. Those twelve tribes are in existence today. You cannot prove your position because you have no access to 100% genetic testing of all humans alive. I don’t have to prove my position because it is not MY position. It is the way GOD has set up the unfolding of history. I really have nothing to do with it. I am just telling you what GOD is telling everybody. Your choice whether or not you intend on calling GOD a liar…………………
Notice the name calling. Everyone should remember that there is nothing so well hidden that it will not be revealed.
No matter who does it or where….
God told Christians to leave .
The remaining actual Israelites were slaughtered in 70ad by the Romans , gods punishment.
Some people think they’re Turks .
That was only in Jerusalem, not the entire land of Israel. Jerusalem was depopulated of Jews but the Galilee carried on. There was already a large Jewish diaspora well before the Romans showed up.
There are two Talmuds. They came about more than a century after the fall of Jerusalem. The better known Talmud is the Babylonian Talmud which came out of the Jewish stronghold of Babylon. Jews lived in Babylon and its surrounding area from the time of Nebuchadnezzar. Relatively few Jews returned to Judea after they were granted the right to return.
The other version of the Talmud is the Jerusalem Talmud. It came from the Galilean Jewish center of learning around Tiberius.
Alexandria in Egypt was another place of Jewish scholarship.
Look at Acts 2:5-11. That passage tells us that Jews from the far-flung diaspora were present in Jerusalem for the Spring feast days. These were Jews who lived great distances from Jerusalem but were observant Jews all the same.
The Jews absolutely did not go extinct at the fall of Jerusalem. They carried on elsewhere.
Christian zionism had been rejected as heresy for the first 1858 years of Christianity by Catholics, Orthodox, and Protestants until it was revived by Jewish and Protestant Zionists in 1858. It is still rejected by most Protestants and all Catholics and Orthodox as heresy today. It is a dogma of the Christian faith that the old covenant with Israel was superseded by the new covenant in Jesus Christ. By rejecting Christ, the jewish people and the nation of Israel, no longer have covenant with God. Israel, as mentioned in the New Testament, refers to believers in Jesus Christ, the Church, not the physical descendants of Abraham or the modern apartheid state of Israel.
Or at St. Pius X said of modern Israel: “ We cannot give approval to this movement. We cannot prevent the Jews from going to Jerusalem – but we could never sanction it. The earth of Jerusalem, if it was not always holy, has been made holy by the life of Jesus Christ. I as head of the Church cannot possibly say otherwise. The Jews have not recognized our Lord; we therefore cannot recognize the Jewish people…but should they go, our churches and priests stand ready to baptize them.”
I LOVE a good discussion! The matter has been resolved in the Biblical record from before there was ever an ‘orthodox, catholic, protestant, mormon, baptist, episcopalian, lutheran, calvinist, seventh day adventist, and apologies to whoever I missed’, that the real estate deal struck by God to benefit Abraham occurred while Abraham was asleep. It is literally and eternally binding because it was God’s idea and his will is all that is important. There isn’t really a doctrine or philosophy created by the mind of man that interests God in the least. He cares nothing for the opinions of mankind. What he promised to Abraham, is still in effect to this minute.
I LOVE a good discussion!
Your idea of a good discussion seems to be to cite a brief passage from a book written thousands of years ago and then say ‘Case closed!”
I don’t think you know what a good discussion looks like.
George Soros is not a descendant of Abraham. Neither was Albert Einstein.
Oh contraire,
If Soros or Einstein were born of Jewish parents, then they are Jews.
My idea of a good discussion is happily introducing non-
bible readers to the direct communications that GOD has provided to the human inhabitants of earth. I am not using my own thoughts and opinions. Hardly a difficult concept to understand if you are anywhere near a King James Authorized Version [1611] for the full historical perspective.
Thanks for the brilliant observations. I love a good discussion.
Hope you are going to enjoy the great American military parade today!
“It is a dogma of the Christian faith that the old covenant with Israel was superseded by the new covenant in Jesus Christ.”
Matthew 5:17 & 18, Jesus speaking, and He, the sovereign King, does not agree with you.
“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.”
And the rewards for being loyal to the covenant or breaking it were very obviously spelled out.
Those who reject the Lord are on the wrong side of it.
Those who know the Bible know that just being descended is not enough. He can raise up descendents of Abraham whenever he pleases.
With the covenant God made with Abraham, it is eternally binding due to God’s affection for his friend. He and Abraham were on personal speaking terms. God gave Abraham a certain property deed that is not revokable. The Nation of Israel had a different covenant with God after getting to the Holy Land. They broke the deal and have suffered for their idolatrous mistakes. That does not make the covenant with Abraham void. God will not revoke his promise to Abraham. This will become obvious as the historical events unfold which are enumerated in the Book of Revelation and the Book of Daniel.
Hi Raven. That is a wild take and a radical departure from the orthodox Christian understanding of Matthew 5: 17-18.
Christ means he is the fulfillment of the Law and the prophets, not that the law and the prophets can lead to salvation on their own after he fulfilled them without belief in Him.
You seem to be implying that you read Matthew 5 as the old covenant exists alongside the new in perfect harmony, which of course suggests two paths to salvation, which would contradict Christ in John 14 “I am the Way, and the Truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.” Later in John 14, Christ talks about Me in the Father and the Father in Me, and then mentions the descent of the Holy Ghost, the Blessed Trinity of the One God, which jews reject. Later in John 14, Christ calls the Mosaic Law “my commandments,” further bolstering the position He fulfilled the law, the prophets and the old covenant, and belief in Him was what was required in the new. The law and the old covenant existed to point toward the coming of Christ, “the Way, the Truth, and the Life,” so that the jews would recognize the Holy Redeemer and continue in covenant with God.
Belief in God who is Christ is necessary for Covenant with God. Absent belief in Christ, there is no covenant.
This is supported by the historical understanding that Christ is described as fulfilling the Law and the Prophets in several ways. According to the Bible, Jesus did not come to abolish the Law or the Prophets but to fulfill them. This means that he brought the Law and the Prophets to their intended purpose and completion. Jesus fulfilled the Law by living a perfect life, upholding its moral standards, and by his sacrificial death, which satisfied the ceremonial laws. Additionally, Jesus fulfilled the Old Testament law and prophets by bringing in the New Covenant, as prophesied in Jeremiah 31, and further explained in Romans 3. The idea is that Jesus’ life, death, and resurrection were the ultimate fulfillment of the promises and prophecies found in the Old Testament and made the New Covenant, which replaces the Old, possible.
That is the 2000 year old Christian understanding of the new covenant replacing the old. It is not my word against yours, but Christendom’s martyrs, doctors, fathers, saints, and theologians. I suggest you reacquaint yourself with 2 Peter 1.
Yes Raven, that was my understanding.
Jesus was the fulfillment of Jewish prophesy. He embodied the Law of the Old Testament, the second Adam, and his sacrifice made it possible for imperfect man to be forgiven by God, if man has faith in Jesus.
The Jews were the chosen people, chosen to carry the seed, the line to the birth of Jesus.
Those Jews who died before the time of Jesus on earth, who never had a chance to believe, will certainly get another chance.
Gentiles were allowed to participate in the covenant when the Jews rejected it.
That’s what I’m talking about.
Amen and God bless US
Amen
Umm no , God bless the humane race .
Why?
Netanyahu is a warmonger just like Cheney, Rumsfeld, Lindsey etc. All these brilliant examples of Shin Bet and Mossad operating in Iran, Israel knowing where Iranian high value targets are exactly located and, and, Netanyahu had no idea about Oct.7🤔 Further, what was the state of Netanyahu’s political career in the months leasing up to Oct.7? Are we allowed to talk about that situation?
And sick and tired of ukraine
Very much so. Hmmmmm. What Church did Zelensky ban? Who is dying in the Russian Ukrainian war???? Not his kids.
Here Here
Since 1948 Israel has fought nonstop while surrounded by nations dedicated to their destruction. They are masters at defense and have turned what was a barren desert into a blooming paradise. God Bless Israel. They deserve the respect of the entire world and we should fight shoulder to shoulder with them against these 7th century terrorists that have sworn to annihilate them , as well as the US.
Since 1948 Israel has fought nonstop to keep stolen land.
Dear j x,
You are correct about the land being stolen. But the conflict you and I have is who stole it from whom. Since the real estate deal was between the God of all creation and the sleeping Abraham, all subsequent illegitimate land-grabbing has been away from the Nation of Israel to a series of intruders with no legal status according to the agent of agents: God. The boundaries are clearly defined early-on in Genesis and have not changed by one grain of sand in all these centuries.
Any argument concerning the lawful establishment of who is the property owner must be taken up with the original contract negotiator: GOD.
And here is the ultimate insult to Jew haters and Bible rejectors: The small remnant of the Nation of Israel left after the upcoming ‘Time of Jacob’s Trouble’, get the title to the entire earth. Bummer.
[If it makes you feel better, they finally come to accept the Lord of Lords, the King of Kings, Jesus Christ]
That $3.8 billion a year allowance from US taxpayers pays for the “blooming paradise”.
Ok , my version is , they owned 6 % of the land ,lived in harmony,until they decided to murder and steal the land ,and have ever since .
Pretty sure my version is more accurate.
Balfour declaration, terrorism, etc
https://gtw.clipgenie.com/share/DCG6kfbxmk9VGeka47ik1UHUSDmZf2pqnm5GUU1pzSTA
I’m sick and tired of the Israel haters.
That question is construed in a manner to obtain the result the questioner is looking for.
How would you phrase it? And isn’t kirk a zionist?
So am I.
1. Does Israel have the right to defend itself? Yes
2. Is Israel defending itself appropriately against the Muslim Terrorist World? Yes
3. Should the United States engage in commerce with Israel-including the selling of weapons? Yes
4. Should we attempt to restrain Israel from defending itself? No
5. Should we send troops to Israel? No
6. Should we pray for Israel? Yes
I hope that helps.
The whole narrative is a lie. There is no war, no invasion, and no bombing of Iranian cities. This is a surgical military strike aimed at neutralizing a threat—nothing more.
go to moonofalabama.org for current update of conflict…
“Bruce Gordan” gives an appropriate short list of questions just below you.
Almost all poll questions are worded to elicit a preferred answer. But in fairness, it actually can be fairly difficult to phrase a question in a completely neutral manner.
See “Bruce Gordan’s” post just above you.
Dead on! It’s not even a war.
It is WW III.
It is now.
That is true of most polls, that the question is phrased in a way to obtain a desired result. Perhaps it should have been phrased as, “Should the US enter into war against the Islamic Republic of Iran?”. Just because another country would also be fighting them, does not mean the US would be fighting Iran for the same reasons or even in support of that other country, but for our own reasons. And by using the formal name of the current Iranian regime, it helps clarify that it is the regime the US would be fighting and not necessarily the Iranian people, the majority of whom by some accounts would like to see that regime come to an end. But that is just my take on how Kirk could have phrased it. Maybe he would have come up with a somewhat different result with his poll.
Plus, the lopsided result is only significant as a percentage of his followers on X, not of all Conservatives, or of all Republicans, or all of any other group, including all Americans. One question I have is, does he really have nearly a half million followers on X? Seems kind of high unless the poll has been available for many months. He concluded the poll on June 12, the day before Israel launched Operation Rising Lion. If he asked it now, he might also get a different result.
Who would want a war? Especially a prolonged war. BUT Trump is right Iran can NOT be allowed to have nukes. They will use them against us. So they are very vulnerable right now. This is the best time to take out their nukes and even degrade the regime enough that people in Iran can revolt. Most Iranians actually SUPPORT Isreal and US taking out the nuke sites and the Iran Military
And if you noticed countried like Jorden Qatar, Turkey and Saudi Arabia helped SHOOT DOWN the drones Iran first launched at Isreal. So it would seem the whole middle east is relieved someone is taking out Iran’s nukes
>Who would want war?
>wants war
Sometimes war wants you. Satan wants war. When a leadership calls for the death of other countries, those countries should prevent them from doing it.
And in order for Isreal to Attack Iran they must have been given permission to use muslim middle east countries airspace
I think Syrian airspace.
Iran should take notes.
In what news I have had time to read, no one is on Iran’s side.
Putin did not seriously condemn the attacks.
Saudi allowed Israel to enter their air space.
And I couldn’t help but remember MbS breaking protocol to welcome and then to bid farewell to President Trump on the tarmac during his recent trip.
But the moment which will always stick with me was the look on the face of the Crown Prince as he waved goodbye…it was easy to see in his expression and with the hand he placed over his heart as a final gesture to his friend a deep affection.
We can only imagine what was discussed; but I am willing to bet this deep personal relationship played a great part in the Saudi assistance with the drones and the permission for Israel to cross into their air space.
I expect the countries you name, though not publicly admitting it, might be hoping for a resolution in this war which will make them all feel safer.
Much said in silence.
Another large factor in other countries shooting down missiles could also be that they realize if Iran were to go too far, the results would be disastrous for the entire region…
Self preservation can be a strong motivation for nations and leaders.
President Trump in an address during the first foreign trip of his first term to Saudi Arabia told the assembled Middle East worthies to “Drive Them Out!!”… that is those amongst their populations who were terrorists and radicals.
If I remember correctly, he said it three times, Harrison, and with emphasis. It was strong enough for me to remember it. He then went on to present a vision of what the ME could be if they’d only clean out their own houses of such forces.
With the intervening wreckage of the ” Biden” years, perhaps they remembered it as well.
Let’s hope, or rather pray so.
maybe we need another shaw of iran?
His son, Reza Pahlavi, has been quietly supporting his countrymen for decadesnin exile.
By this time and after the brutal, barbaric theocratic rule benighted Iranians have suffered, who knows?
They might be more than willing to welcome him back.
Nothing is written in stone
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reza_Pahlavi,_Crown_Prince_of_Iran
Betsy, his younger brother, Ali, was in my sophomore English class at Mount Greylock Regional High School in Williamstown, Massachusetts.
A body guard always accompanied him. He was very quiet and reserved.
His older sister attended nearby Williams College.
I did not realize until this evening that they both met the same tragic end.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Reza_Pahlavi_(born_1966)
Very sad.
I was only ever familiar with the Crown Prince because he underwent flight training at the air base just outside Lubbock where I was born.
We are all human and subject to the same afflictions and sorrows, regardless of birth or position. No one is immune….I am sorry to read this, Chris.
So nukes for me but not for thee?
Nothing will incentivize the Iranians to build nukes more than what is happening right now.
If the Iranians already had nukes none of the events of the past 24 hours would be happening. Nor does your premise that Iran would use the nukes on other countries hold water. The nuclear collective would immediately turn their country into a glass parking lot if they ever tried.
The nuke thing has been a red herring for forty-five years and people are still falling for Bibi Mileikowsky’s rhetoric.
There are only a few things at play here:
USA must remained entangled in the Middle EastNo treaty or rapprochement between the USA and Iran can be allowed. Rather de-stabilizing regime change is the goalIsrael and the hegemon must be allowed to attack its neighbors with impunity. That can’t happen if they’re a nuclear power..
Fortunately MAGA supporters are bright people and can see this coming a mile away. Too bad our leader, the War President can’t.
I could not agree more I am a fan of neither Regime – l f you have a loaded gun pointed
at someone’s head chances they will want one to even the playing field.
I Can understand people picking their side, however the terrorist regime is laughable considering the terrorists the west has worked with over the years.
the brits and the Americans liked Iran when they had their stooge in charge,
Because nothing says “peaceful” like unending Iranian chants of “DEATH TO AMERICA”.
I’m surprised the world isn’t saying it .
Are hands are the dirtiest IMHO.
They were never getting nukes! That is just a pretext, same as Saddam having WMDs.
Yes, a Iranian nuke will reach America.
Makes perfect, physical sense. I’m sure you’ll tell me next they can launch a rocket to the moon?
Revolt for what? They want to live that way…let them!
Another example of conservatives promoting liberalism abroad (aka neocon)….disgusting. Nobody wants future refugees. No thank you.
A country doesn’t need an ICBM capable of reaching any point on the globe in order to use a nuke against any point on the globe…any more than they need long range drones and satellites to launch attacks inside another nations borders.
What you just wrote, makes absolutely no scientific sense.
It actually does – you just lack the imagination and ingenuity to understand it.
Hint – Ukraine vs Russia and Israel vs Iran.
We have known for decades that Iran should not have a nuke and that it would be Israel that would stop them.
There’s is absolutely zero evidence to support your claim.
Many people just want others to do the work. Thanks to Israel maybe Iran will get some new leaders.
I am disappointed that the first wave of ordinance did not hit Khomenie and his Congress of Cleric Mullahs. This operation could have been done with 1-5 MOABs.
Or thanks to Israel, American citizens will get another 20 years of wars of imperialism in the dessert that again kill millions of people including Christians and cost trillions of dollars so Israel can again expand its territory at the expense of even more American blood and treasure.
The likely outcome of our complicity.
Spot on !
What territorial expansion is Israel pursuing?
Seriously PaulnotSaul? How do you enter a discussion about anything the modern state of Israel does without understanding both founding principles of zionism and modern Israel? Those being that Israel should be a ethno-religious nationalist state for the Jewish people and that state should encompass not only the current territory of the state of Israel, but also encompass all the land “from the brook of Egypt to the Euphrates” to create “Greater Israel” cynically using the biblical boundaries of the old covenant as a justification. I say cynically because most founding zionists were documented atheists.
I hope from your question that you are not under the impression that the entire middle east hates Israel because the jews took the Palestinian lands that none of the middle east cared to take for themselves? They don’t want Israel expanding to their territory and toppling their governments in the name of territorial expansion.
What do you think the last 20 years of regime change wars of imperialism in the middle east were about? The professional wrestling, good vs. evil version that was sold by neocons in every administration since Bush the elder? The neocons, all of whom were and are zionists, and many of whom have documented dual US and Israeli citizenship, didn’t just haphazardly and coincidentally intervene in all the countries that coincide with the Greater Israel “brook of Egypt to the Euphrates.”
Personally I think they’ll take the strip, and part of Syria.
Syria right now.
Thanks to ANTIFA we got Biden.
Keep supporting those CIA color revolutions
No More Foreign Wars!!!!!!!!!!
We have our own nation to protect, repair and Make Great Again.
The timing of this war suspect. Since the deep state cannot drag us into Ukraine then the deep state will legitimately threaten Israel so that Israel will respond. And, then we get caught up in it and then there is a global war.
Nope. Staying out. Anyhow, the Israelis are doing a great job.
This has been building up.
Sure has , let’s see , who has Israel bombed in the last year .
Lebanon, Syria, Gaza, and Iran.
And I’m probably missing someone.
It is, considering the unrest in the USA. Trump’s attention will be divided. It’s like they want the military away so that they can’t stop the unrest here.
Textbook push poll as most people are going to take “involved” as meaning “boots on ground”.
I think there are trolls who follow the charlie kirk shows and participate in skewing the numbers.
IF this is true, then many Christians participated. If Christians did participate then USA is in big trouble with God Almighty. God will not be mocked.
How is not wanting to go to war with Iran mocking God??
Not blindly supporting Israel is not mocking God, Israel was punished many times by God for their wicked ways, Iran is in no real position to threaten Israelis supremacy – even with nukes all that would do is make Israel think twice before going on there next bombing spree.
what i will say on the positive side for Israel is the middle eastern powers have tried a few times last century to defeat Israel and each time Israel has prevailed, If the shoe was on the other foot they would be using their military advantage against Israel,
They have been killing each other over that bit of real estate for a very long time, seems like it will not be ending any time soon and if a full scale conflict erupts Israel will win which ironically i would prefer over an Iranian victory.
I like Elijah most, he killed all the priests after showing them up, and God sent a limo for him when he asked truly a great honour
LOL Israel itself is mocking God. They’re known for their huge Pride Parade. You really think they’re in God’s good graces right now? Remember in Revelation where there’s only a specific number of Jews that He saves because they’re the only ones who remember and follow Jesus? Don’t get me wrong he will protect Israel but it will only be because of those Jews. And who knows if we’re even at that point yet. The Temple has to be rebuilt.
And Just like that God supports the corrupt money changers who run Israel.
Dear god the blind loyalty is painful
Lol, yo, you need to watch swindlers list .
Twitter?
Most do not know their history nor have situational awareness.
A bully does not give you a choice people. How long ago that Iran launched major missle drone strike against Israel during Gaza conflict? How soon we forget.
Negative on sending US troops on ground but when someone is intent on killing you and others……believe them.
Bingo.
Acrually Israel started that. They attacked first, and last. Now another attack, and they`re paying for it today!
For my part, I want Israel to take care of business as they see fit.
If Israel needs our treasury dept to purchase some of their bonds so that they can purchase weapons, fine. Do it.
If Israel needs export licenses for weaponry (or whatever the red tape process may be), fine. Do it.
If the US gets too intimately involved, the US will try to take over and make decisions that belong to the Israelis. Not fine. Don’t do that.
Pray for Israel and for the decisions that must be made.
So you’re okay with the warships and planes, sailors and pilots who are already involved?
Not to mention IC assets…
If we have to bankrupt the US to save a rich country then by god I support it.
Who says things like this?
You do know we are running trillion dollar deficits and we have homeless vets in the streets….right?
What we want and what we get may not be the same thing…
Depending on if Iran turns its firepower and terrorism on American troops/bases in the Middle East. Not outside the realm of possibility.
This war has the potential to explode in directions we have no control over.
Lord be merciful 🙏🏻
Thinking everyone is getting tired of the Mullahs terrorism, even the Middle East.
We’ll see.
Wonder how long it will take for the Middle East to get sick of the West’s terrorism…?
I think they would be.
Bad neighbours can make the whole “neighbourhood” unstable.
Betsy a simple solution is to close all our foreign bases, bring our soldiers home to win the war here at home against domestic enemies committing treason inside our own government!
I agree completely.
We can only hope.
Is it really that surprising?
Trump campaigned on America first and that he believes peace with our enemies is the better alternative to war.
He has also called out the military complex and neo cons.
Things are really odd right now. Douglas McGregor and Judge neopolitano are calling out the stark contrast between what trump is saying and Marco Rubio.
And I will admit, it seems we are directly involved with Ukraine attacks on Russia as well as Israeli attacks on Iran. And Witkoff will likely not be able to be useful in any peace talks now with any country.
I don’t see how this doesn’t escalate?
McGregor and Napolitano hate Israel and have for ages.
NOS…go to moonofalabama.org for current update of war…….
Telegram is better
Sonar 21, ex CIA analyst Larry Johnson.
According to there own words throughout the years, your statement is false. I get it though, your chosen god, Cyrus Scolfield, probably says so, it must be true then.
I don’t trust Charlie Kirk
many do……
Nor do I. he is a weasel in a mink coat in my humble opinion.
My answer… NO
I was one of the 90% of almost half a million respondenTs. I didn’t expect that margin—but it shows just how far the base has moved from the neocon war machine.
Meanwhile, I was in Atlanta listening to Erick Erickson smugly dismiss anyone who opposed intervention. He actually called people Nazis for not wanting to go to war. This from a guy who couldn’t do a pull-up if his life depended on it, but has no problem sending everyone else’s kids to fight and die.
It’s sick. These chicken hawks never serve, never sacrifice, and never shut up. They wrap themselves in moral superiority while pushing other people into endless conflict.
Erickson was a prominent Trump critic during the 2016 Republican primary season. He disinvited Trump from the RedState Gathering in Atlanta.
Prior to 2016 I had heard Erick Erickson on the radio.
I really did not like or trust him, but did not know why. Up to that point, he did not do or say anything to concern me.
Then again, the first time I saw a picture of WJC with HRC in NewsWeek magazine (a bleeding heart liberal used to leave them in the break room at work) I thought to myself that he could not be trusted.
Ah yes, famous anti-interventionists those wacky Nazis!
Seriously though, every time someone uses *that* N-word in relation to a US military or diplomatic venture, and the people they’re talking about *aren’t* avowed national socialists tattood with black suns and wearing Swastikas etc.
Then dismiss everything else they say, and file it under N-word fatigue.
Not a shock to me. I consider myself extremely conservative. Let Israel carry the water.
But yet this is what is up over at Breitbart right now:
Pre-Strike Poll Finds Most Voters Back U.S. Supporting ‘Israeli Effort’ to Dismantle Iran Nuclear Program
Most U.S. voters said the Trump administration should support “an Israeli effort” to go after Iran’s nuclear program in a poll conducted before Israel launched strikes on Iran Friday morning.
The Harvard-Harris poll, taken June 11 and 12, asked 2,097 registered voters, “If no acceptable deal with Iran is reached over its nuclear weapons, should the administration support or oppose an Israeli effort to take out Iran’s nuclear weapons program?”
Sixty percent said the administration should back an Israeli effort to dismantle Iran’s nuclear program, while forty percent were opposed.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/06/13/pre-strike-poll-finds-most-voters-back-u-s-supporting-israeli-effort-to-dismantle-iran-nuclear-program/
A lot of “conservatives” seem to prefer Twitter’s take over that Harris poll’s.
It all depends on how the question is asked. “Should America stand by idly while a long-term ally is under attack by a country whose rallying cry is “Death To America”?” also gets an 89.7% “No” response. Scientific!
Ally?
Please detail how Israel is an ally of the USA?
As in, what have they done for us?
Well, their mere existence causes the anti-semites to expose themselves (they can’t help it, poor dears), and that’s always useful info.
Anti-Semite is just another term like homophobe, racist, xenophobe, ‘N.A.Z.I.” etc. They’re terms used to shut people down. It’s a phsy-op used by people who hate you, in order to control you. Time to grow up and start realizing what’s going on around you.
So what are you saying? That there aren’t ANY anti Semites and there’s no homophobes and no racists and no xenophobes or Nazis?
Maybe there are and maybe some people use those terms for their own ends but those types do exist.
“Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.”
Another made up term to deflect criticism.
Anti-semite is a term to indicate someone who is prejudiced against Jewish people. I’ve never heard of a phys-op, you must mean something else. Grow up yourself, and get a dictionary.
Info for what?
Info that those are haters who should be avoided.
Kind sounds like the same logic leftist use to paint people with some “ist” label when they have a different opinion.
If that kind of relativism works for you, go for it.
Our “number one ally” in the middle east! How many troops did they deploy to help us in Afghanistan and Iraq? None.
Truth!
I dont know why, (maybe cause I’m old and some may recognize), but, this came to mind……..
“Generals gathered in their masses,
Just like witches at black masses.
Evil minds that plot destruction,
Sorcerer of death’s construction. In the fields the bodies burning, as the war machine keeps turning!!!
Death and hatred to mankind, Poisoning their brainwashed minds.
Politicians hide themselves away.
They only started the war, why should they go out to fight?
They leave that all to the poor.
Time will tell on their power minds
Making war just for fun
Treating people just like pawns in chess
Wait till their judgment day comes!!
By-by American 🇺🇸 Pie
Is this the day that MAGA died?
Peace is the Prize 🕊️
was only a lie.
Watch what I do…
not what I say.
Don’ t believe your ears and eyes
Believe instead all the lies.
◀️Democrats – exit stage left◀️
▶️ Republicans-exit stage right▶️
Behind the curtain it is all the same
💰 👯 💰 💰 👯 💰 👯♀️ 💰
🎼Dancing together to the same old tune 🎼
War pigs….dancing to the tune
of their Foreign puppet master. 👹 👺
Bought and sold for decades. 💰🐖🐖🐖💰
Tomorrow I will not watch the parade
Still feeling and believing- I have been Betrayed.
Do I believe the poll..you betcha.
🇺🇸 🇺🇸 America First 🇺🇸🇺🇸
formerly known as MAGA
“War pigs” made me check if you were cadging Ozzy’s lyrics.
Just adding another song to sing!
😉
My favorite is War!
What is it good for ..absolutely nothing
Edwin Starr – War (Lyrics) – YouTube
President Trump seems to think this war will be ended in a few weeks.
That seems to me to be delusional.
This mistake will be the end of MAGA and the end of his presidency.
This war will now be the focus of his administration for the next three years.
Iran is far more powerful than Iraq.
It was like Christmas every day during President’s Trump administration, great things happening every day . . . despite the absurd court decisions and setbacks . . . it was very positive overall.
And now it’s war as far as the eye can see.
As it was for W.
War is hell, no doubt about it. Nevertheless, opposing evil aggressors has always been essential. That’s a sad reality that can’t be refuted by hyper-emotional rhymes.
MAGA…..
RIP
🪦🪦🪦 🪦
It was nice dream….
👹👺Evil did everything to destroy…it won!
Part of the plan?
War (What is it good for?) Song + Lyrics (Edwin Starr version) – YouTube
For what we now know….
Also good for Death Cults
and Foreign puppet masters.
✝️ Blessed are the Peacemakers for they shall
be called the Children of God. Matt 5:9✝️✝️
Iron maiden, 2 minutes 2 midnight.
The one line I remember,
While they oil the jaws of the war machine,and feed it with our babies .
Yet people still get it .
A better question would have been:
“If Iran attacks US sevicemembers, our bases, or our embassies, should the US respond forcefully? I don’t think the answer would have been anywhere close to 10%.
I’m not a social media person, so I have no idea who influences who and I kinda don’t care. Social media is the sludge at the bottom of a septic tank. That being said, I’m tired of all this drama over there. These crazy-ass muslims would exterminate every jew on the planet, if they had the ability to do it, and the jews are a bunch of self-defeating, self-loathing people.
Isreal could turn Iran into an ash tray in a week or less and be done with all of this, but they won’t. There’s deep politics and lotsa money behind that hold-back I’m sure, but I’m tired of all of this middle-east horse crap.
I started thinking a few years ago this was all manufactured warfare for profit. Not sure it’s that simple, but finish off these muslim alley rats or just go back to the wilderness God sent you thousands of years ago as slaves. I don’t give a flip which they choose.
It’s all more than tiresome and creating a welcome detraction for the GOP to run the clock out on Trump and do nothing about his priority items. The GOP loves wars and they hate Trump.
So millions should die because we’re tired of hearing about the conflict? 🤔
6 Famous Churches in Iran | TAPPersia
✝️ ✝️
600 Churches in Iran.
Over one million Christians there.
Over one million Muslims have converted last
couple of years to Christianity.
No prayers for the Christians under attack
from Israeli bombs.?…
No prayers …same thing for
the 32% Christians ✝️ in Lebanon.
How about the Christians in Syria?
The so called “Christian Leaders” (fake)
offering not even a prayer for them….
they never have.💁♀️🤷♀️
✝️ Jesus weeps ✝️
May God have Mercy on the souls
of those who remained silent
as other Christians are/were slaughtered.
If you’re enthusiastic about war, you’re a stone cold idiot.
That said, I’m far more supportive of Israel than of Ukraine. The Mullahs have had it coming since 1979, and the demise of their regime is both possible and a net plus for the world.
smitty..check moonofalabama.org
It’s Islam in general.
If you watch Smerconish on Saturday morning (If I were a Republican candidate, the only way I would let CNN host a debate is if the panel was Scott Jennings and Smerconish) you see the converse of what you see in Charlie Kirks poll. Smerconish CNN audience is so predictably left they are always 80/20 left wing in a poll.
Kirk’s listener’s are all MAGA and we are going to go right.
My fear is that so many people including Roman Catholic and most protestants have been told Premelinialism is actually in the Bible that they feel they must make Isreals foreign and defense policy the policy of the USA.
I am tired of being expected by Isreal And all of Europe to send our boys and money to burn on their pile of economic and foreign policy failure.
We need to “Fortress America”, bring everyone and everything home, build a wall on both borders and all three coasts, shut the doors and tell everyone to not call for about 20 years.
You wrote: “I am tired of being expected by Isreal And all of Europe to send our boys and money to burn on their pile of economic and foreign policy failure.”
I do not recall America sending any troops to Israel to fight on their behalf.
The troops are already there. Right now US IC assets are in Iran providing intelligence to the Israelis. Meanwhile in the air, pilots are involved in intercepting missiles, and two destroyers are off the coast of Israel doing the same. All are valid military targets and the USA is an official combatant. And then of course there was the coordination between the Trump Admin and the Bibi admin on keeping the attack a surprise. The financing and supply of materiel are just cherries on top of the war cake.
USA is already well-committed on Israel’s behalf.
Where’s your proof? Rule #9 here is “Citations”. Blabber is not proof.
It’s in the public record
The US attacks on Yeman are on Israel’s behalf.
But the Houthis, until recent days, had still gotten off with a relatively light price from Israel and the US for their over 400 attacks on Israel over the course of the war.
Why doesn’t Trump spend all his resources defeating domestic communists with our own government waging war on its own citizens??
Defund all foreign wars!
What makes you believe that the USA is funding foreign wars?
Let’s see…could it possibly be the hundreds of billions of dollars poured into Israel and Ukraine? Or perchance that which flows through the IC and DS to conflicts around the world.
Are you new here?
Because it takes a 5 second search of the public record to prove it. <facepalm>
The United States committed over $3.3 billion in foreign assistance to Israel in 2022, the most recent year for which data exists.
About $8.8 million of that went toward the country’s economy, while 99.7% of the aid went to the Israeli military.
9 out of 10 say they don’t want another same old thing.
“this is not a scientific poll and more of a ‘sense’ amid the people who use Twitter; people who are often the strongest political influence voices for American politicians; but still, that is quite a remarkable outcome.”
I trust those results more than any professional polling operation.
Of course this survey is like “preaching to the choir” with most of his followers being aligned with his general views.
I find it refreshing that people are not automatically gung-ho for absolutely everything Israel does. If they want to fight, head on over.
That is their fight, so let them have at it. Even if they use & buy “Made in U.S.A.” armaments.
That was a “professional polling operation” ! You’ve been had!
I am not on any “social media”, so I did not participate.
The only exposure I get to those platforms is if I click a link here at CTH.
Otherwise, I only see or listen to Mr. Kirk when he is on Gutfeld!
I cannot think of anyone in my small world here that would have answered “yes” to that question he postulated to his followers.
this is another defintion game. where a word is used “get involved” and no definition is provided. and each person’s imagines what they think it means, and then argues over the word and the the definition.
one person thinks get involved = military weapon support
another person things get involved = boots on the ground
arguing over getting involved.
Well we already know we have “boots on the ground” so that quibble over definitions is largely irrelevant.
again, be specific.
where are the boots on the ground.
and are the boots on the ground for infantry close quarter,
or, are the boots on the ground for training of systems and proving intel
—–
again we go in circles with definitions, fighting with each other over nothing.
It’s obvious what answer the pollster wanted and probably paid for.
It is MAGA.
It is not MIGA.
They are obnoxious in their own neighborhood. They manipulate us to fight their wars.
Enough is enough.
Stop giving them $$.
Stop giving them weapons.
Stop providing them with free military protection (we’re shooting down missiles that should be landing on Israel).
Let them have a taste of their own medicine.
Missiles impacting Tel Aviv now.
America First.
We need our “Golden Dome” — soon !
Charlie Kirk is asking a dumb question since it is already known that the US has been assisting Israel in targeting those incoming missiles from Iran. So we are involved.
And somebody’s helping target Russians too.
Lots of Anti Semites on here again tonight. So your sick of Isreal. How about the FACT that if Iran got nukes they would have sent some our way? Your “okay” with that? Trump said Iran WILL NOT be allowed to have nukes. Do you really think he was negotiating the last 60 days really thinking that Iran could be trusted? Really?
https://therightscoop.com/breaking-president-trump-comments-on-israeli-strike-i-always-knew-the-date/
First you begin with an IF. And then you continue with an impossibility. And considering Trump broke the JCPOA on what basis could the USA be trusted in the negotiations? Those are your justifications for a pre-emptive strike?
Well, he did start with the moronic accusation of people being anti-semetic because they aren’t willing to give all their blood and treasure for Israel…
Like climate change they’ve threatened that if nothing is done, in X amount of years something bad will happen. Iran has been threatening for ages. Nothing has changed.
The timing is suspect. Just after the Russian bomber fleet was hit, while the President is dealing with invading insurrectionists, why now? Why couldn’t it wait for Trump’s negotiations on Sunday?
The whole thing wreaks of a set-up.
Wrong question to ask. It’s too late for us not to be involved with Israel. We have been involved since their birth as a nation. Try again Charlie.
Maybe, should we continue to support Israel in their war against Iran?
But we digress, yes SD it is a remarkable outcome.
Wow! I agree!
No more wars !
I’d like to remind you all what Rush Limbaugh said *Repeatedly*
“Twitter Is Not The Real World”
Between McCaul recently proclaiming “when negotiations with Iran go bad” immediately after participation in an Israeli “strategy session” and twenty-two years (all of my adult life) of Iran being “months away from an atomic bomb” it is hard not to be skeptical about the timing of this operation. Nor do I see the wisdom in taking on Iran while the Israeli military continues to be deeply committed to operations in Gaza.
Which is to say all of this smells fairly bad to me, so while I have no wish to see the mullahs absurd proclamations being wrapped around nuclear missiles and no wish to see the Israeli people devoured by the dervish of jihad I also do not look upon any of this with enthusiasm or with confidence that it will be over quickly.
The majority of Americans are exhausted with foreign adventurism and want no more of it.
Iran vs Israel could all be staged by some outside power.
The truth is rarely found in the “causes” or events that result in war.
Just think of the lists of lies that have brought the US to war in times past.
So many……
Duplicity is often present instead of “actual” events that get reported.
Pictures and narratives are written like a Hollywood script.
Today’s attacks feel like a movie we are watching.
We should not accept news stories so easily when the governments lies to us about everything.
Covid, Nutrition, Windmills, Biden, Immigration, Crime, Assassinations, 911, Medicine, FEMA….etc.
I cannot believe the news that gets all the headlines anymore.
I would have voted with the majority.
As an old soldier, I’d be the first to say I don’t want war. But Israel is likely our staunchest ally and one nuclear weapon wipes out how many?!!! I support Israel. I hope the dastardly mullahs are currently speaking directly to Mohammed.
Just an old Texan
Israel our staunches ally? Uss Liberty sailors would beg to differ. They do not give a rats behind about Americans! Imho….No! Israel will have to handle this on their own!
If the USS Liberty had been attacked by Egyptian, Iranian, Iraqi, Syrian, Cuban or Libyan aircraft I’d bet a fortune that many/most here would be claiming the CIA had something to do with it. Israel did, so, of course, the Israelis did it for WHAT reason?
While detesting the mullahs, the nuclear weapon issue isn’t black and white. Israel has them. For all anyone knows they have already deposited several in Iran – and possibly other countries – just in case they feel backed into a corner…
As an aside, I would NEVER call them our “staunchest ally.”
someone above asked the question and I will ask it again: How is Israel our ally? what do they do for us?
Didn’t Biden/Obama slip Iran a lot of money ?
$150 billion in cash on pallets. Didn’t have to be subjected to the banking sector or need to pay currency exchange duties. Immediate dark money.
Kinda tough to say to ‘No’ to more foreign wars, while also saying ‘Iran will never be allowed to have a nuclear weapon.’ I mean, how do people think they would ultimately be prevented? 2 options, and they are both involved.
Not on twitter, but a “Hell No” vote from me. Sick and tired of us being involved every where around the world. Can we have some new bridges, roads, buildings, and inner city blight removed please!
My exact reply on x today!!
CIA is goading Russians into war and goading Iran into war by sending secret trucks into their countries loaded with explosives. Same tactics both places. Uncannily similar tactics planned by CIA months ago
I think trump believes he has the cards. I believe trump thinks Russia and iran are both weak. Russia and Iran would like to respond with counter-attacks, but trump expects russia and Iran will have to ultimately agree to pressure from trump to sign ceasefire deals .
I hope trump is betting he can pressure ukraine and Iran to agree to regime change. I think Trump is calculating he can bring down both Zelensky and also ayatollah Khamenei
The warmongers try to make it look as if USA not involved but that is transparent lies. USA has supplied the weapons and intelligence and CIA is in charge. The World thinks Rubio looks foolish to claim USA not involved. We need Trump in charge!
I think Ukraine and Israel are cynically taking advantage of Christian generosity and idealism. USALooks foolish if we continue to supply weapons and money and intelligence to ukraine and israel . I hope trump has a smart plan and really thinks he can win this and I hope trump is not succumbing to CIA plan to continue forever wars
I hope trump has all the information he needs to determine he can force surrender by both Russia and Iran and avoid a tragedy. Trump is doing what CIA wants him to do by playing hardball bc diplomacy has failed with both Russia and Iran
Send the CIA warmongers to Russia and Iran for trial there.
What is remarkable is the narrative that Israel is asking the US to be involved. They seem to be doing just fine on their own. The only thing missing without the US is the GBU-57, but I bet they can overcome that with successive GBU-28 and 72 hits like in Lebanon against Nasrallah. There seems to be a misconception that Israel wants anything more than weapons (which they appreciate) and to not have their hands tied behind their back by US policy.
This is probably also Trump telling Putin that by not ending in Ukraine, they cannot aid Iran.
Right at this very moment, US pilots and sailors are actively involved in Israel’s defense. They are not asking for the US to be involved, we’ve already jumped in. They’ve already included us in their plans, the CIA has helped them execute the plan and we are active in their defense. That’s not a narrative, that’s already established fact.
HUGE DIFFERENCE in actively helping to defend Israel and actively helping Israel with offensive operations.
We’re helping with the latter, primarily with missile defense. Google the difference between THAAD (our missile defense in ME) and Iron Dome (Israel’s missile defense). These systems complement each other and are defensive ONLY.
US missiles and US planes with pilots are NOT flying over Iran–until you have valid proof (please nothing from MSM), please refrain from your “Right at this very moment, US pilots and sailors are actively involved in Israel’s defense….” nonsense.
That THAAD at the Israeli Pentagon didn`t work well. Israel essentially has no air defense. They knew that after Irans strike against them months ago.
It isn’t about Israel asking for anyone’s involvement per say (although there is zero doubt that it WAS asked for to help knock down missiles, as it has been for boatloads of money) – it’s about citizens of our own nation lusting to be involved as has been shown in various threads on CTH, by numerous Congressional critters on all media mediums, along with the simple reality that events can quite easily careen completely off the cart path and directly into our living room in the blink of an eye…
ISRAEL PAID FOR THE WEAPONS
With US TAXPAYER MONEY.
In 2016, the U.S. and Israeli governments signed their third 10-year Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) on military aid, covering FY2019 to FY2028. Under the terms of the MOU, the United States pledged to provide—subject to congressional appropriation—$38 billion in military aid ($33 billion in Foreign Military Financing (FMF) grants plus $5 billion in missile defense appropriations) to Israel
https://www.congress.gov/crs_external_products/RL/PDF/RL33222/RL33222.49.pdf
AP (Oct 2024) – The United States has spent a record of at least $17.9 billion on military aid to Israel since the war in Gaza began and led to escalating conflict around the Middle East, according to a report for Brown University’s Costs of War project, released Monday on the anniversary of Hamas’ attacks on Israel.
An additional $4.86 billion has gone into stepped-up U.S. military operations in the region since the Oct. 7, 2023, attacks, researchers said in findings first provided to The Associated Press. That includes the costs of a Navy-led campaign to quell strikes on commercial shipping by Yemen’s Houthis, who are carrying them out in solidarity with the fellow Iranian-backed group Hamas.
https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-war-us-military-spending-8e6e5033f7a1334bf6e35f86e7040e14
Israel is already asking us to join the fight behind the scenes. Iran hammered them today.
(Armchair Warlord
@ArmchairW
D-Day update and thoughts on the ongoing Iran-Israel War – I was hoping it would be known as the One-Day War, but the sides seem to have resumed fire just now.⬇️
Items to discuss:
1. Israeli assassination campaign
2. Israeli air campaign
3. Iranian missile campaign
1. Israeli targeted killings
The Israelis kicked off their attack on Iran early yesterday morning (local time) with a series of targeted attacks aimed at assassinating senior leaders in the Iranian armed services as well as nuclear scientists. Alongside several scientists and Ali Shamkhani (a very prominent diplomat), three prominent figures in the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps were killed: General Hossein Salami, commander of the IRGC; Major General Mohammad Bagheri, Chief of the Iranian General Staff; and Major General Gholam-Ali Rashid, whom I’ve gathered was in charge of a joint forces command.
This move was likely counterproductive to Israeli strategic goals, to the point I suspect these men may have been set up to be killed. Allow me to explain.
For decades, Iran has followed an “aggressive proxy” strategy of confronting Israel under which they provided arms, technical know-how, and occasionally direct military support support to proxy forces positioned to directly attack Israel. This is why Lebanese Hezbollah, Ansar Allah in Yemen, and Baathist Syria received so much support from Iran. It’s why Suuni Hamas got the same. The thinking was that these Iranian proxies would gradually wear down Israel while establishing a friendly maneuver corridor across Iraq, Syria, and Lebanon for the Iranian military to gloriously march on and reclaim Jerusalem from the hated enemy.
If this sounds like millenarian nonsense that’s because it was – the odds of such a maneuver actually succeeding would be, in my professional judgment, approximately zero percent. With that being said, Iran in the ’90s was a millenarian revolutionary garrison-state that had just spent a decade fighting Saddam and people in that kind of situation can make some genuinely insane plans.
The thing is that it’s not the 1990s any more. It’s the 2020s and Iran is an increasingly wealthy and industrialized country and the Iranian elite increasingly leery of an endless jihadist project against Israel they get no return on investment from. As such when push came to shove in the last two years we’ve seen a rapid transition away from direct confrontation with Israel and towards a strategy of defensive deterrence, with the Iranians abandoning proxies in Lebanon and Syria and striking back at Israel directly when their interests were threatened. Of course the Israelis have manifestly not been deterred yet, but that’s what the present exchange of fire is about establishing.
And, well, the Israelis just killed three of the architects of that very IRGC-focused “forward proxy” strategy, who probably lobbied and would have continued to lobby in favor of a strategy that saw military resources poured into funding random terrorists instead of invested in the conventional military capabilities and economic development that could make Iran the preeminent power in the Middle East. And driving this home further, Bagheri’s replacement as Chief of Staff is out of the regular Army – not the political IRGC.
Why do I think they could have been betrayed? Same reason I think Ismail Haniyeh got sold out – someone very powerful in the Iranian power structure wants to wind down the proxy strategy and they’re not above using Mossad to solve their problems for them. As I pointed out earlier, the Iranians may not have known the exact details of the attack but they sure as hell knew enough to take cover.
2. The Israeli air campaign
I pointed out last night that the Israelis didn’t seem to be accomplishing much with their air campaign, and I stand by that assessment – the Iranians don’t seem to have lost anything they couldn’t afford to part with. Many Israeli attacks in the last day seem to have hit dirt, hardened facilities they could not successfully penetrate, or at best “soft” dual-use aboveground facilities. They manifestly failed to knock out Iran’s hardened military nuclear facilities, missile forces, air defenses, or a decisive balance of their command and control nodes.
This goes back to the rope-a-dope remark I made earlier tonight – Iran’s air defenses seem to have taken a 12-hour siesta at the start of the battle and only “woke up” as the sun set. When they came online, however, they did so all at once and in full force – to the point there were rumors of Israeli aircraft shot down and the IAF seems to have become markedly more circumspect with multiple reports late in the day of large strike packages assembling and then aborting.
The explanation making the rounds for this is that this was due to an Israeli cyberattack. I don’t really think that’s particularly plausible given the near-total lack of any air defense response for much of the day, without even much manual antiaircraft fire seen. I think it’s rather more plausible that the Iranian air defenses were ordered to hold fire and remain in hide sites while the initial Israeli strikes went in.
Why would they do this? Because the Iranians could be reasonably confident those strikes would not fatally damage their hardened strategic infrastructure and those strikes – many of which would be directed at known or templated air defense positions those launchers and radars would not be occupying – would largely expend the IAF’s limited inventory of standoff weapons. Lest we forget, the main combat mission of the IAF is milk runs to bomb Gaza, not complex SEAD. When the IAF transitioned to attempting to run aircraft directly into Iranian airspace late in the day to attack with conventional bombs the (still very intact) defenses deployed out of hiding and illuminated, immediately and drastically crimping the IAF’s campaign plan given they were then faced with a largely intact air defense network their initial long-range strikes had failed to destroy. Ergo the “rope-a-dope” analogy: the Iranians sat down and waited as they took a beating – one they knew would exhaust their enemy worse than it would hurt them.
3. The Iranian missile campaign
There’s not much to say about this that I haven’t already said in previous rounds of Iran-Israel skirmishing. The Iranians have ballistic missiles that can penetrate the Israeli missile shield, they have enough of them stockpiled that they don’t seem to be in any immediate danger of running out, and this force was manifestly not destroyed nor even suppressed by Israeli attacks today. And as of today they’ve revealed a willingness to throw them at the heart of the Israeli state and its strategic infrastructure if sufficiently threatened.
Moreover we haven’t even seen Iranian drones and cruise missiles launched yet, at least as far as I’ve been able to gather. Some from allied militias in Iraq, certainly, but nothing from Iran proper. You can bet the Iranians have an apocalyptic stockpile of these relatively cheap and simple weapons ready to launch at a time and place of their choosing.
Going forward? I hope there’s a ceasefire soon, I think by now both sides have made their point and there’s little purpose in continued fighting. The IRGC hardliners who would have agitated for a nuclear attack on Israel are dead or discredited, the Iranians have established they can eat Israel’s worst and bounce back, and deterrence has been adequately established going in both directions.)
Interesting thoughts from a twitter thread. Saying Iran might have “ate” the first Israeli blows on purpose.
To lull them into a false sense of security. Whilst letting the IDF do a purge on their behalf in a way that makes the victims useful martyrs for the Iranian regime.
Thank you squirrel for excellent insight and analysis
Pray for the Peace of Jerusalem…
Pray for Peace in America..
Pray for PotusTrump to have wisdom w discernment.
Call 📞 📲 WH comment line202 456 1111
Tell Potus no wars…maga all the way
war is not the answer to all countries problems. Enough bloodshed! Let the war pigs sacrifice themselves and their sons and daughters! Not me! Enough for ever wars! Senseless! Stupid! Israel attacked Iran. Of course Iran will retaliate! Israel owns this…American needs to be the peace through strength!
I think if you were to have an actual paper-ballot vote of everyone in this county 18 and up, the outcome might be (rightfully) fairly similar.
With the way that question was phrased, you might be correct. We here, have pointed out the endless times the MSM and polling outfits have phrased questions to obtain the answers they want so this is just more of that same dishonesty but when Israel is the afflicted party let’s just pretend some more.
(From AI):
“Tulsi Gabbard has consistently supported Israel throughout her political career. She advocates for a strong U.S.-Israel relationship and, in March 2015, did not join 58 other Democrats in boycotting Benjamin Netanyahu’s address to the U.S. Congress, stating that relations “must rise above the political fray, as America continues to stand with Israel as her strongest ally”.
Additionally, she has supported Israel’s military actions, including its wars on Gaza and Lebanon, despite her general anti-war stance. Gabbard has also criticized pro-Palestine protests, suggesting that some of these demonstrations include anti-Semitic rhetoric and actions, and has referred to pro-Palestine protesters in the U.S. as “puppets” of a “radical Islamist organisation”, referencing Hamas.
Her support for Israel has aligned her more closely with the Republican Party’s stance, even though she has often been seen as an anti-establishment figure within the Democratic Party.”
Is even Tulsi Gabbard a neocon/war warmonger too ???
Lol here’s a funny one to highlight the current 🤡 world:
(BREAKING: The European Union condemned Tehran for the Israeli attack on Iran and prepared a new package of anti-Russian sanctions)
I mean it wouldn’t be surprising, every evil is Dark Lord Putron’s faults.
Expect NATO/US sh*twits to blame Russia if some of the fancy aerial toys the IDF has don’t work as advertised, just like the Saudi ones in Yeman didn’t work.
Just saying…
It’s not remarkable at all. People are absolutely furious at Washington’s wars. Ukraine, too.
Trump needs to decisively EXIT the Ukraine debacle. Screw Lindsey Graham. Cut the funding. Arrest anyone in the IC or DoD who continues to provide material it support.
And as far as Israel goes, they burned through whatever patience people had a year ago. Going all in with Israel will wreck the MAGA coalition because those of us who are not war mongering permanent war party disciples elected Trump SPECIFICALLY to get us out of these absurd, outdated, entanglements.
And if he hang 15,000 members of the PWP as a warning to others, all the better.
The days of knee jerk support for “Israel” are over. Everyone not obsessed with “God’s Chosen People” understands this.
there is a growing interest among most main street USA people that yes, there is spending (our money to be clear) on matters that
also noting: there is a growing impatience about President Trump who has decided in several factors to continue to spend money and VITAL resources pursuing operations that are antithetical to the reasons why and the campaign tributes made to make America FIRST.
questions:
why aren’t US oil companies VIGOROUSLY DRILLING ?
why aren’t prices clawing back to normal?
why Qatar?
Why isn’t bondi, Kash and bongino going full throttle with indictments against the secret police spy state that is no doughts responsible for so much criminal lawless treason?
I am just stating the obvious.
I will also state the obvious:
we are asking the WRONG PEOPLE TO SOLVE PROBLEMS
God Bless America
why aren’t US oil companies VIGOROUSLY DRILLING ?
The price isn’t good enough.
Why should US oil companies vigorously drill when the price of West Texas Intermediate has been dipping below $70/bbl and the president says he wants the price to go lower?
These results aren’t surprising at all given all the negative commentary I read on these posts yesterday.
Now that being said, I also didn’t recognize many “posters” names on here, therefore I do believe that this non-scientific poll & many threads are being hijacked in order to frame a media narrative of “anti-Israel” sentiment amongst the US populous.
These comment sections & un-scientific polls are as reliable as a Karine Jean Pierre press briefing.
No, we do not want to fight the Israel – Iran war.
Exactly no more fighting other people’s wars.
I saw clip of Ted Cruz and the other corrupt
politicians….who profess to be Christians
offering prayers…..
Those prayers……
Not🙏 prayers for the One Million Christians
in Iran. And since this link…One Million
Muslims in Iran that have recently converted
to Christianity. ✝️
No prayers for the Jewish community in Iran.
No prayers for any of them from our so-called
“Christian Leaders”.
Beware of false prophets. Matthew 7:15.
✝️Jesus weeps✝️
600 Hundred Churches in Iran!
Video in Article.
They are beautiful Churches.
YouTube has tours of some of them.
6 Famous Churches in Iran | TAPPersia
No prayers offered for 32% Christian
population in Lebanon either.
So. Offer a prayer that you think is appropriate.
Iran is our enemy. Period.
Israel’s enemy, not ours.
Iran were on the verge of getting their nuclear weapons. Do you honestly think they wouldn’t use them against any western democracies, especially the U.S.
Israel can have their war. We just don’t want to fight it.
We have been hearing those words for more than 20 years.
But this time it’s true right?
Wanna find out?
Yes.
You have as much evidence now as you had 20 years ago.
Hope is not a plan.
Iran has had nuclear weapons for a while now
Grow up
yes they been on “verge ” to get nuclear weapons since 1995 ….to your 2 nd sentence and paranoiac qst. NO..they will not dare……even mullahs is not that stupid…..
Netanyahu has been saying that for 41 years!
Iran calls America “The Great Satan” and at official gatherings there are regularly chants of “death to America”.
Iran certainly views America as an enemy.
You don’t kill someone because they call you a name.
You don’t bomb a country for that reason either.
Then why do they keep saying “death to America “?
VSGPDJT …would say…what a stupid qst….where you have been past 45 yrs…..
The Iranians have shouted “Death to Israel!” for decades.
The Israelis have shouted “Iran is on the cusp of building a nuclear bomb!” for decades.
What changed?
Iran’s leaders call Israel the little Satan and America the great Satan. Most of the population don’t really follow along but can’t speak up. Also Iran has ballistic missiles that can reach South eastern Europe now. They have steadily improved their missiles. Add an nuclear bomb. It would be bad.
That’s what they said about Pakistan getting a nuke.
Still the only country that has dropped one is the USA.
Avi, tried negotiating with them lately, your name alone would produce a blade across your throat. But hey,people who cheer for your death for decades will always be somebody else’s enemy.
Think that through again. To the Twelvers, America is the Great Satan, Israel is the little Satan.
And they will get the Saddam, Qaddafi, Taliban, Putin and Assad treatment too! Don’t get me wrong, I am completely against getting involved in foreign entanglements, but sometimes exceptions have to be made.
The Mullahs that our “Top Men” installed are everyone’s enemy. Including Iranians.
No, the leadership is.
^^^^^^
Our men, women, and resources are too precious to risk them fighting other people’s wars. Arabs and jews have been fighting for thousands of years. This is only one example of hundreds of ancient conflicts and hatreds which persist through generations across the globe.
NOT OUR FIGHT.
The area around Solomons temple / dome of the rock is geologically stable and dry. It would make a perfect long term storage location for high level nuclear waste / spent fuel. Let them fight over it then.
I’m so exhausted and disgusted with ME politics. To hell with all of them.
No, we do not.
Looks like the NO’s win by far.
go to moonofalabama.org ….for current update…
So you have never heard or read that the USA is the” Great Satan?” You didn’t know Iran tried to assassinate President Trump? That China is in bed with them while it’s screwing us? You didn’t know they were steps away from nuclear weapons?
Marcia, I too have been here a long time, and I don’t want Americans to fight this war.
Straw man much? If wanting the US to stay the heck out of their war makes me “anti-Israel”, so be it. I don’t care any more about the names and the epithets.
How many more wars are you people going to lose before you realize you’re being played?
🎯 🎯 🎯 !!!
Exactly. I dont care what anyone calls me. No country is above criticism. Even Israel.
It helps to have a table in the kitchen.
👏👏👏
“Straw man much”…haha, that’s rich coming from a person who wrote what you did.
As a veteran, I too do not want us engaged in any senseless military action that doesn’t directly serve US interests. Furthermore, I don’t trust the political military industrial complex to not engage in mission creep. I’m also not ignorant to the fact that there are very strategic/specific interventions that we must support, even from behind, that have a direct impact on broader US security.
God grant the President the wisdom to know the difference!
Do you Neo-con, much? Who are you anyway? I have been posting here for eight years, and I have never seen your avatar before. Thanks for the service. Now, shove off
Front Towards Enemy clown!
“ interventions that we must support”
And this isn’t one of them.
Good for you !
I admit I am anti Israel(Zionist), not anti Jew.
My daughter married a half Jew, and so did my sister .
So, I have an extended family, including my grandson that are part Jewish.
That being said, I despise what’s going on in Gaza ,and have for about two decades ,when I actually gained enough knowledge to except the situation and reality of it .
And I may not be a name people notice,but I’ve been a treeper for close to five years .
I voted for Trump all 3 times .
But I didn’t vote for this !
The people he hired are mostly Israhell lovers .
And if people think we have protests now , wait till they try and sell us on ww3 .
Ain’t gonna work , to many people are awake now .
I love the 90% figure,hardly believe it ,but love it !
All wars are banker wars , who owns the banks ?
State st, vanguard,, Black rock ,own just about every company,hedge fund , politician.
They’re hoping there next crisis will usher in digital currency and the total police state they’ve always wanted.
It’s all part of the plan !
Joker is in the house ,and the jokes on us !
Anti-Zionist (anti-Israel) is just a more acceptable way of saying anti-Jew. The definition of Zionism is the right for Jews to have a homeland.
When do Christians get a right to a homeland?
“There is a fundamental difference between being Jewish and being a Zionist. Judaism is an ancient religion and culture, while Zionism is a relatively recent political movement that advocates for a Jewish state in Israel. Not all Jews are Zionists, and not all Zionists are Jews. “
most ppl here still do not get it at alll…saaaad
So go join the fight JB.
If all Jews were Zionist then you’d be right .
Love how you clump everyone into one camp , very convenient,it’s doesn’t work though .
Anti Zionist is being against scumbags like Netanyahu, and company, not the average Jewish person. Israel was on the verge of a civil war over the idiots corruption, and decisions.
We won the Viet Nam War and Henry Kissenger betrayed us. The objective in the Iraq and Afghanistan war was to eliminate their ability to launch terror attacks against the United States. Instead we tried regime change. When Isis started they had their army stretched out over 3 hundred mils of roads. We didn’t use our Air Force to ha a turkey shoot and destroy them in one afternoon. After the marine barracks was blown up all the leader of the terrorist organizations were collected to together in the biblical valley of Baal and President Regan ordered one aircraft carriers to launch a retaliatory strike with ended the war on terror right then. The planes were fully operationally ready on the flight deck. Fueled, loaded with bombs a munitions, and engines read for takeoff when the Secretary of State called the admiral and canceled the operation. There was documentary with the Admiral,Ships Captain, and the pilots all expressing their bewilderment, disappointment, and anger over the cancellation. I never understood why the Secretary of State wasn’t fired. Israel has no interest in winning a war their objective is to destroy all of Iran’s nuclear weapons making capability and or removing all fissile material from the country. Iran’s biggest danger is having highly enriched uranium released into the atmosphere and poisoning their cities for 4 billion years.
“Iran’s biggest danger is having highly enriched uranium released into the atmosphere and poisoning their cities for 4 billion years.”
Then Israel should be concerned about the direction God moves the wind. Iraq, Syria, and Jordan may get upset if the wind blows in their direction.
Henry Kissinger is a Jew and one of the absolute worst war mongering Secretary of State America has ever had.
Ok so, talk to me about war,history,and human nature…..facts remain unchanged for 4.5 million years. Humans have lived a tribal existence since the beginning (I won’t waste my time debating the difference between a singularity and a miracle) as separate ANF and distinct tribes all competing for the earth’s limited resources.. The only thing to have changed is today the tribes are much larger,far more complex, and much more lethal.
The only lesson history has to offer is that there will always be another war, you can prepare for it or perish in it…..choice is yours.
We can’t even defend our own borders. I think a tribal war between two ethonostates halfway around the world is very low on our priority list.
Thanks We can’t even control our cities. The George Floyd riots are an excellent example of how impotent and full of traitors America is.
I have been here since 2012 and I am strongly against the USA becoming involved in this war between Israel and Iran.
I also think we should immediately end our involvement with Ukraine.
I am MAGA all the way since 2015. I am not a Neocon.
My sense is that some people here are Neocons and haven’t learned anything from our past debacles in the Middle East, Afghanistan and dare I say it, Vietnam.
I don’t like broad definition of what it means to be a patriot either.
but there are some facts we all need to at least agree on.
the REASON. the number ONE Factor that has made the US durable against all threats, is our military…
AND the United States’ determination, against almost all moral reasons, to go to war at the drop of the hat.
now most of US THE PEOPLE find that both comforting and at the same time terrifying.
but those are the facts.
I don’t particularly enjoy or view the US policy on several threats, namely the Ukraine-Russian war, as any different than those before it. I can argue that President Trump has a different kind of policy and strategy that sounds good and that we should give it a chance and support it…if for no other reason that it might reduce and possibly even stop all the killing. But that war is NOT OURS. Yet, we continue to supply arms and Intel with Ukraine …that would be THIS ADMINISTRATION BTW. we cannot ignore and pretend this isn’t happening.
For better or for worse, the US President has king like powers. With a simple decision, lives can be spared, and yet with another, lives can be zeroed out…OURS and “theirs”. for better of for worse, this is the power that our president has over the lives and destiny of our nation.
so far, the United States has fared quite well over a long period of time, forming an army so violent and effective that few countries have dared to find out. Some have and found out. And this has yes, cost the lives of many of our bravest men and women. But those are the realities if you want to be at the top.
I don’t want to tempt fate and find out what happens lets say, in the next decade if the US erodes its military arsenal, becomes lethargic and paralyzed by its own fears of great power. China will certainly not take a break…they will continue to grow military tech and effectiveness. China has ambitions to TAKE the number one spot and we should really consider carefully how that will play out. Right now, they have a strong hold over so many manufacturing and products even into specific military use materials that the US depends on almost entirely. This is not a good sign.
what we need to be prepared for is what the world actually looks like when the US decides to walk off the mound.
and if you think that our military could easily reassemble and become a great force, I disagree.
one thing that the US has is LOTS of recent military combat experience. There is nothing that can replace that.
as much as I would hope this could not be true, it is.
we are strong, not because we have a strong military, but because we are initiated well into the manner of war, in all its terrifying effects. We have that and few other militaries do. Russia and Ukraine should be a wake up call to Americans. We might “want” to get out and sit out, but eventually we will be at a situation where we may very likely see the entire region erupt in a great war…from Moscow to berlin. I am exaggerating.
and what does this have to do with Israel and Iran?
everything.
we are in this, no matter whether we want to be or not.
the war is coming FOR US.
it’s nieve to believe we just punt and watch in the sidelines. There are no sidelines when the wars start to cross over into a global destabilizing conflict.
there are some comparisons to what the world and life looks like when the world goes to war and the sars-covid-19 pandemic. the big difference is that we can settle the terms of a war with fewer casualties with deterrents that actually require military action. This seems to be the Israeli strategy, and I’m not against it. “preemptive” strikes that take out what can be the biggest threat is a smart idea. Russia invading Ukraine with military action to preserve its global energy market making potential AND rolling against NATO buildup…also smart.
deadly, yes, but smart.
America for better of for worse, is the most powerful country and will remain so, and thus we will all be able to maintain a quality of life, security, because we are also smart about how to quell threats.
I am not opposed to war. I am opposed to stupid wars that get people killed and we get no security from the sacrifices.
exhibit: the
IranIRAQ war…being lied to in order to invade a country and killing millions, many civilians. has not made us any more safe and secure. If anything it has made the US the number one target of every Islamic state.God Bless America
MOB: Exactly. It’s all nonsense.
Most people who post here are not anti Israel.
Many are anti America either financing, or getting embroiled into another war.
It’s easy for women to tell men to go to war for them. They’ve got no skin in the game.
I actually know a beautiful young
woman who is stationed in Jordan.
When she left, she took her beautiful little
5 year old girl to her mother in Phoenix to take
care of while she was stationed there.
🙏 🙏
👏 👏 👏 ❤️
Great. Send more. Not just the beautiful ones.
So we have American troops in Jordan? Why?
refuel Israeli planes in the air because they can`t!
They’re not getting my grandkids for their meat grinder on foreign soil! Let the warmongers feed the machine with theirs!
I go there when Mark Levin, Lindsey Graham and DICK Blumenthal get kitted up and head there first……
that’s include ms.lindsey and danang dick…..
I’m against the Zionist Israel, where they keep inciting conflict, some of which I’m sure is to keep Benjamin Netanyahu from facing bribery charges when his term ends. Prior to all this, Israeli’s and Muslim people got along fine. The Israel of the scriptural covenant I honor, but not this warmongering effort.
20% of Israel’s population are Muslims. There is a difference between Muslims and Islamic fundamentalists.
My goodness, I’ve been here for ages and I don’t want another stupid war in the Middle-East! Why is that so hard to understand? I don’t care who is involved. Why do we have to be? Are you at risk of getting drafted? No?
I did not vote for more wars especially in the Middle East, or anywhere else that doesn’t involve our national interests.
Period.
Get out of NATO as well.
“These results aren’t surprising at all given all the negative commentary I read on these posts yesterday.”
Or just maybe, the posts are a reflection of what the majority of MAGA actually believes…
My thoughts exactly. How many times did the CCP vote? On that note I am not for fighting anyone else’s wars. We are broke and have plenty of wars to fight right here in the USA.
Are you certain it wasn’t those darn Russians again?
No, we don’t want to be involved in teh war. Does that help?
I support Israel. I do not support duplicitous madmen who gamble with all of our lives the way he gambled with all Israelis lives when he forced the poison shots on all his people.
Yes! That did not make sense at all. Watching people in Israel being hounded and chased and forced to take that “shot” to be “vaccinated” unwillingly!
I don’t want to war with Iran. Still, Iran is not America’s friend. They are a self proclaimed enemy of America and would destroy us and Israel if given the chance. I won’t miss the evil Iranian government. I believe the innocent in Iran won’t miss their evil government. Prayers for Israel and the innocent in Iran.