Tucker Carlson traveled to France in order to interview Telegram Founder and CEO Pavel Durov who remains in French detention as he awaits the judicial system to release him. Telegram is used as a messaging ap by over a billion users worldwide. Pavel Durov was accused of noncompliance with EU judicial demands and arrested during a holiday last year. He remains under quasi-detention confinement.
Many people have increasingly expressed annoyance at the change in Tucker Carlson’s interview style. The increased interruptions, wandering rambling that takes the point off subject, inappropriate -borderline annoying- laughter at the wrong moments, and increasing Hannityesque behavior has been a sidebar topic of conversation. However, this is the first interview in which I can say these distracting interview traits have become unbearable.
I really wanted to hear from Durov, but I could not survive the inappropriate timing of the interruptions, and increasingly odd mannerisms from Mr Carlson. From a mental strength, stability and intellectual perspective, Carlson is way over his head trying to interview Durov. Perhaps that explains the performative and seemingly odd behavior of Tucker in this interview. It gets worse as it progresses. See for yourself. WATCH:
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Pavel Durov is a very deliberate man with an exceptionally stable disposition. He is one of the most important people in the world of information, communication and the free exchange of ideas. Yeah, I’m a little frustrated with this missed opportunity to go into important considerations in the world of information sharing.
Chapters:
0:00 Being Arrested in France
10:57 France’s Attempt to Humiliate and Tarnish Durov
15:54 Did the Russian Government Ever Try to Arrest Durov?
17:21 How Telegram Makes Money
20:04 Are They Attacking Durov Because He’s Russian?
21:19 Did Anyone Defend Durov?
24:23 What Did Durov Do in Jail?
25:17 Is Durov Allowed to Leave France?
30:37 The Real Reason They’re Attacking Durov
31:56 Europe’s Mission to Make Privacy Illegal
39:20 France’s Confiscation of Durov’s Phone
40:47 The Investigation Into Durov
56:52 How Telegram Stays Neutral in Global Politics
58:44 The Advancements of Encryption Technology
1:00:47 Is There Anything That Can Prevent a Government From Spying on You?
1:02:42 The Importance of Disconnecting
1:04:40 Durov’s Thoughts on Ross Ulbricht
1:06:54 Will Durov Stay in France After the Investigation?
Tucker’s
“I know”
“Really?”
“I didn’t know”
-says a lot.
He interviewed some woman a month back that said the world has spent $8 Trillion or $12 Trillion on underground bunkers.
Prior to that, he claims he met w a medical doctor / expert from Stanford Medical – who flew tk his compound – and that this doctor has dissected alien bodies.
That was Catherine Austin Fitts. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_Austin_Fitts. She’s not the only person talking about bunkers, by the way, and is quite on point regarding the migration of the earth’s magnetic poles, and a potential extinction event that may happen when they flip.
https://www.businessinsider.com/mark-zuckerberg-hawaii-underground-bunker-meta-ceo-2025-
https://www.sportskeeda.com/us/podcasts/news-who-catherine-austin-fitts-former-bush-administration-official-explains-two-major-causes-global-inflation-tucker-carlson-show
https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/cia-rdp79b00752a000300070001-8.pdf
Crustal displacement
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Crust_displacement
I dont believe the hype around this Durov
ERO chance he is not a deep state player
two or three layers deep perhaps but ZERO chance
Really ?? I didn’t know….hahaha
Tucker has interesting guests.
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“Many people have increasingly expressed annoyance at the change in Tucker Carlson’s interview style.”
I have my own thoughts about what could be causing that.
However, I have no proof.
He sells his own nicotine patches now.
Wise sellers do not use their own product
The Nelk Boys surprise Tucker Carlson with the largest Zyn tin in the world.
That is two helicopters in one day!
The first one was that captured zebra being returned after it escaped and ran free here in the U.S. for a while.
Tucker “jumped the shark ” long ago.
Umm, no he didn’t. Just my opinion. Some people just can’t be perfect enough for the greater good here.
Main take-away is: The IC had Durov arrested because he could have done more.
“………..he could have done more.”
Done more to help them, or to hurt them?
Yeah. At 6 minutes in he talks about how Telegram is completely compliant with EU law and neither will nor can give the kommissars more information …which is sufficient explanation for why he’s imprisoned. (And probably means all other social media applications are illegally giving governments whatever they ask for.)
I am listening to Tucker’s interview with Fr. Robert Barron.
I appreciate him interviewing Fr. Barron, but Tucker is not only ill informed about the Catholic faith and its practices. And, he is way out of his intellectual league in this one.
Tucker tries to make up for it by interjecting questions, commenting on nonrelative topics and giggling.
I also see the quality of his work decreasing.
Who can tell him to slow down and do his homework?
Yep, in the first few minutes of that interview, he got swamped. I don’t recall the exact exchange, but Fr. Barron made a comment about people becoming untethered from God, and Tucker’s response was a very Kamala Harris-like laugh and essentially “I have no idea what you just said” reply.
That’s lack of preparation. And he needs to do more advance prep for these interviews. Which aren’t really interviews btw (or shouldn’t be). What he really is aiming to do is give these people an audience.
That means working with them on the agenda points, asking questions to progress the discussion and ensure key points are made, and posing as the opposition – raising common arguments and giving guests open format time to make their case.
Would that he could read this. Very well done, thank you.
He wasn’t doing this last year. Have noticed it too, on other interviews. Wonder why.
Maybe he’s cracking under the stress of being controlled by threats to his family by the veiled Controllers.
Or maybe the Controllers are directing him to commence self-discrediting, to render everything he’s said questionable. This is a pattern seen with multiple public “dissenter” figures.
telegram is an amazing resource for an alternative point of view
but – disinformation is everywhere.
use your discernment
As always, the effort expended to censor is inversely proportional to the veracity of the information that threatens them
good things come to those who wait
Seems like the talking heads from Faux all get to the point that they are not listenable.
OReily, Beck, Hannity, Coulter, Ingram, Cabbage Patch,…
Rooster is still there for now.
I walked by a television set during the evening this past weekend and saw him on it
I agree,he looked out of his depth, and very uncomfortable.
Tucker’s talking to someone very intelligent in Pavel Durov, despite Pavel’s young age. So Tucker’s approach has to change also. Carlson is a little subordinate in this interview, but Durov isn’t trying to make him feel foolish.
Durov’s patient with Tucker & supplies quick, but very measured responses. They’re both enjoying this exchange.
As Carlson suggests, there’s always that ‘gift of Russian understatement’ which was also huge in the Putin interview.
Given the situation, Pavel must have been a lot tougher than most French authorities expected.
In his slightly-goofy way, Tucker’s showing us that.
As if “you gotta see this Telegram guy- he’s something else.”
“………….the inappropriate timing of the interruptions, and increasingly odd mannerisms from Mr Carlson.”
Nervous tics ??
When Tucker started his network, I thought about subscribing but decided to wait a little while and see what direction it went. Now, I am glad I did not jump in immediately and I suspect his audience share is going to continue to decline.
Aside from his very annoying laugh, which he has to know bothers people, my biggest complaint is how hard he tries to be an intellectual when it is so painfully obvious that he is not! The way that he sucked up to both Andrew Tate and Thomas Massie, neither of whom I like but who are both clearly way smarter than Tucker, annoyed the heck out of me!
His interview with Putin was an embarrassment, to say the least, and I find myself questioning more and more who is pulling his strings!
I subscribed for the first year to support his venture, but did not renew whenI discovered most of his interviews were available for free on Rumble.
‘… I find myself questioning more and more who is pulling his strings! ‘
What opaque entity reportedly has the means, motivation, and decades of global practice “pulling strings” to effect geopolitical outcomes?
Some suggest”it takes a village”, nestled in the suburbs of zip code 22101, an epicenter of wine aficionados.
TC is schlepping his own brand of nicotine patches.
JUNE 09 2025
twitter – Pavel Durov
9+ months after I learned about the investigation against me in France, I still don’t understand why it began.
At first, the authorities claimed Telegram didn’t respond to French requests —
but it turned out they’d been ignoring the EU and French law, and hadn’t sent us a single legally binding judicial request until last September.
Then they argued that Telegram moderated content worse than other platforms —
a claim that was soon refuted by several hundred pages of forensic evidence proving the opposite.
Why I’m still unable to leave France — a country where less than 1% of Telegram’s billion users reside — remains a mystery.
“What is that?” Like he doesn’t know.
It’s an indication of a lack of preparation – intellectual laziness. I think it’s less like Hannity, who is clearly a control agent, and more about Tucker not doing the hard work that is required to do these long form interviews well.
Some humility would do him good, which means asking broad questions and giving people 10-15 min to just…talk…uninterrupted. There’s no “next segment” and there’s no scheduled commercial break to save him from his bad habits.
According to Tucker, he’s dyslexic. He’s also never online and doesn’t own a TV. His only tool is his phone, which he seems to use only for texts and calls. So I can’t imagine he does much research on his guests, and either neither does his team, or they do, but he doesn’t use their prep. I agree about his (growing, imo) lack of humility. One of the things I really appreciated about his Fox show was that he rarely talked about himself. Now, he does it constantly, and seems driven to impress his interviewees and/or his audience. The transformation is odd as hell.
Nobody wants to tell the boss he’s wrong. That’s easier to do when the boss has a boss, and infinitely more difficult when the boss doesn’t have a boss.
The EU is sure into censorship. They don’t want anyone to say anything that’s not in goose-step with them.
And they don’t want anyone voting the wrong way either. If you do vote the wrong way they will find a way to overturn that election (still waiting to see if they don’t find a way to overturn the Polish election and keep Tusk around).
Less is more.
Relax, take a break, read a few books, hire a new solid Producer / Researcher.
I wasn’t overly impressed by his Putin interview, though he displayed Big Ballz.
I apologize Sundance that I’m commenting before watching the entire video. After just 10 minutes, I realized I’m going to have to watch it in pieces. Carlson and others like him in the media should go back and watch some David Susskind interviews to see how a pro does it.
Tucker’s behavior with the Greek American See Eye Hay officer was indeed distracting.
“After famed investor Marc Andreessen met with government officials about the future of tech last May, he was “very scared” and described the meetings as “absolutely horrifying.” These meetings played a key role on why he endorsed Trump, he told journalist Bari Weiss this week on her podcast.
What scared him most was what some said about the government’s role in AI, and what he described as a young staff who were “radicalized” and “out for blood” and whose policy ideas would be “damaging” to his and Silicon Valley’s interests.”
Why Marc Andreessen was ‘very scared’ after meeting with the Biden administration about AI
https://techcrunch.com/2024/12/14/why-marc-andreessen-was-very-scared-after-meeting-with-the-biden-administration-about-ai/
He admitted in the Dave Smith interview that his knowledge is paper thin and covered by his prep school-developed fascade.
Tucker believes Iran has no nuclear weapons program. Since you only need 3.5% to 5% enrichment of U238 to U235 and Iran proudly admits it is at least at 60% – enough for 10 nuclear weapons then Tucker is lying. President Trump knows Iran has a nuke program so I guess Tucker believes Trump is a liar.
Why does Tucker lie? Follow the money. When he left Fox to set up his own show he got his money – $15,00,000 from a Muslim – Omeed Malik.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/tucker-carlson-online-media-company-143542942.html
When Tucker was fired from Fox it was not for his opinions but rather for his harassment of Jewish colleagues.
https://forward.com/fast-forward/552774/fox-news-12-million-settlement-jewish-staffer-antisemitism-sexism/
Tucker believes Churchill, not Hitler, started WWII.
Tucker detests Israel and accuses Israel of genocide. As there were 400,000 so called “Palestinians” in 1948 and there are now 15,000,000 of them you could say Israel is not very good at it. Lots of other people spout this nonsense and have these hatreds. Usually these people are called Muslims, Western Europeans and Democrats.
Tucker believes space aliens are everywhere. Who knows, with his nutty beliefs, he might be one too.
Did you read the article you linked, in your rush to assign blame? It was Tucker’s producer who allegedly made those comments.
I know they didn’t exactly state Tucker’s incidents of harassment with the lady, they did state this “individuals she named in her complaints, including former host Tucker Carlson and some of his senior producers.”
Some now think Carlson is not only anti-Israel but anti-Semitic. I withhold judgment, and rarely watch his conversations (not really interviews), except then they’re posted here. Seems to me he is either very gullible, or just enjoys silly topics (like UFOs) because they generate eyeballs/ears–or both. The ones Sundance posts have more substance (thanks to the guest), so worth some attention.
Tulsi Gabbard during recent hearing
said Iran doesn’t have nukes.
The only ones talking about it…for
the last 20 years….only weeks away….
only days away🤢
stupid cartoons at UN…is Nuttyahoo🙃🤪
Jewish Insider….
Gabbard: Iran is not currently developing nuclear weapons
Tulsi Gabbard Says Iran Not Believed To Be Building A Nuclear Weapon – YouTube
Perhaps it is a case of “weapons of mass destruction” as in Iraq and Saddam Hussein.
Yes, I have noticed the same about Tucker Carlson’s interviews.
I have had to cut some short out of frustration with his annoying behavior.
Thank you for your confirmation, Sundance.
Wasn’t there an omitted line from that interview with Putin where Putin just straight told Tucker that he knew he had tried to work for the CIA?
I haven’t seen one with an omitted line but absolutely remember the original with the Putin comment you reference.
I think Putin said his father was CIA.
Durov is in deep concentration explaining something.
Tucker interrupts and asks how the food was in prison.
Totally off the wall.
Will we ever be privileged to know what happened to Tucker from “then and now.?”
You cite one good example, but there are a lot and I’m really trying to grant grace, but it is terribly annoying and getting worse.
Tucker has some good guests who I would like to hear from, but it’s getting much harder to try and filter through the silly parts of his interruptions.
I’m just frustrated… lol
Carlson did the same thing to the CIA whistleblower from last week.
Very unserious.
It was still informative and interesting interview.
Irritating as Tucker was…still was worth listening to.
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Same here!
One thing I can say …and have always said…
Tucker has interesting guests.
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Tucker Carlson is an example of the grift that is modern journalism. He and his backers count on his studied glibness to counter his lack of substance. He’s a control agent—another patrician cast as a man of the people.
I pay less and less attention to him. Without the bluster there is nothing useful in the outrage industry.
You describe Carlson’s new style perfectly. I can hardly watch him anymore. Loved him before and signed up right away for his new service when it came out but have not renewed as I just can’t deal with it. I will still watch important interviews but it sure is annoying.
Sundance would know many non-media people who could conduct professional, conversational, long-from interviews – more in a Jan Jekielek style than a TC style. How about suggesting to them to begin interviewing and post on Rumble.com?
Call the show, ‘Asking the Right Questions’ (a double meaning there), and put it on ‘The Last Refuge TV’ channel.
I like the idea of “Ask the Right Questions”… as a show title. Great suggestion.
Tucker has interviewed Durov before.
maybe Tuck just needs a break? its tough to keep up high levels of effort.
Shawn Ryan should interview him.
I was thinking the same thing!!
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Maybe Tucker is taking too much ALP. I never liked that strange giggle of his, and once he started going off on Israel, I listened to him less and less. I wonder who funds him.
Tucker is never to be trusted. NEVER.
Never forget the bow tie folks!
Tucker is in some kind of distress. His weight has ballooned up a lot.
Not sure about the distress, but I’ve noticed his weight as well.
Perhaps Tucker is getting some of Elon’s drugs lol
Tucker has said he did ‘,shrooms as a kid, and they don’t call em SILLY psyben for nothing.
And now he admits he is chasing the tail of Nicotine.
Time to admit he has a problem with substance abuse and seel help.
Wait, people still think Telegram isn’t compromised after all this o.O
Carlson’s father worked in Intelligence, Carlson grew up and was vetted by the neocon Washington establishment, Carlson has also described HIMSELF as an elitist.
When people tell you who they are, believe them.
Hi Grandfather was the largest land/cattle baron in California.
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With the exception of in-person oral conversations, when in the history of the world have we had a communications system, especially one that crosses global borders and/or involves mass communications, including the potential for organized crime, terrorism, drug- and people-trafficking, and/or the transmission of information gained from spying, that could not be intercepted from time to time by a government or hostile private parties?
Meanwhile, the multi-billion-dollar company Telegram makes free use of submarine cabling and cell phone infrastructure paid for by communications companies, both regulated and not, as well as some governments’ funding.
I do not understand why this particular young tech billionaire, who apparently has no loyalty to any country, has flitted around the world accumulating multiple “citizenships”, and his particular communications system should be considered any different from the typical amoral money-accumulating, global Big Tech “gamers” or dark web schemers?
Yeah, governments suck etc. etc. The vast majority of the world also is filled with dangerous people outside of the formal governments, e.g. cartels, revolutionaries, anarchists, rioters, terrorist organizations. some powerful enough to overthrow formal governments, or at least functioning as informal governments.
Accepting that all formal governments, even the great U.S. of A. can become corrupted and tyrannical (because “people”, garbage in garbage out, it’s always people, stupid or evil), why would we want to empower with “free speech” those that we have absolutely no hope of participating in or controlling. whereas at least the U.S. there is some ability to do so.
I stand for “free speech” and “privacy” as we’ve historically recognized these in the U.S., but I’m still not sure about whole-heartedly blindly supporting a teenage-boy-amoral-geek-type global communications system that can enable everything from worldwide defamation to criminal activity to insurrection to war enemies.
How is blindly supporting this different from the unthinking support of “free trade”, or “refugee” rights and migration coexist we all share the same values kumbaya… So tolerant and open-minded that the brains fall out…
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Hannitus Interruptus?
Good Luck With That, Carlson!!!
We haven’t watched or listened to a single moment of that buffoon in more than a decade! And, hopefully, will never have to again!
Lightweights are always tiresome, and especially so when there is a failure to anticipate possible events. No one really knows, but still…..
Truth Manager. Becoming less accomplished at it however.
The stress of pretending not to know a lot of things seem to be causing cracks in his pavement..
Hannity-esque is the perfect word to describe Tucker in this interview. I quit Hannity several years ago because of constant interruptions, and was really surprised to see Tucker do the same, and the annoying giggles. I stopped at about the 30 min mark. Don’t know if I will listen to the rest or not.
Listening to it now…..👍👍
A lot better than Tucker!
Glenn Greenwald….Rumble
Palantir EXPOSED: Spying on Americans & Expanding the Privatized Deep State | SYSTEM UPDATE #465
Tucker is becoming a caricature of himself. His mental attitude is way too lax and sloppy.
Thanks, Sundance, for the tip. I’m a big fan of Tucker’s and love his interviewing style.
Thanks for the updates, Sundance
Does Tucker have a drug addiction?
No question TC has had a good run up until recently where this new style has made it difficult to watch. He needs to prepare better for guests that are intellectuality superior to him and get rid of the goofy laugh and appearance of bewilderment that has crept into his persona of late.
Tucker needs to cut the Zyn.