Tucker Carlson sits down with Mike Benz, one of the prominent voices who was speaking out about the corruption within the USAID, NED and CIA operation. WATCH:
Chapters:
0:00 The USAID Rabbit Hole Runs Deep
5:29 Trump Is Performing Open Heart Surgery on the Country
9:50 Is USAID Truly a Humanitarian Operation?
19:41 What Is the Point of Funding Transgender Surgeries in Foreign Countries?
27:13 How USAID Secretly Organizes Riots Around the World
46:23 Is The Blob a Necessary Evil?
52:24 Joe Biden and USAID’s Role in Social Media Censorship
1:07:20 USAID and Russiagate
1:17:08 How DC’s Economy Is Dependent on Foreign Aid Spending
1:22:40 Why USAID Created a Cuban Twitter
1:29:01 USAID’s Control of the Global Narcotic Empire
1:34:15 How Will the Fall of USAID Impact Our Position as Leader of the Free World?
1:38:28 How USAID Benefits Major Corporations
1:45:17 USAID and the Black Lives Matter Riots
1:55:42 The Stupidity of Our Foreign Policy Establishment
2:01:29 The Soros Prosecutors
2:04:17 How Do We Fix This?


PT is firing arrows into the heart of the uniparty daily now.
I ain’t clicking on that ….
Once these “make money” posts are allowed they start to overtake the thread. Admin, where are you?
After the Politico revelations Vox Day said “Very nice. Now let’s see Daily Wire.”
Yep.
Let’s see Hot Air, Legal Insurrection and Ann Althouse.
DW is the first thing that came to mind when I understood that this wasn’t a left vs right issue. I will never forget Ben Shapiro saying that he would vote for Hillary Clinton because “orange man bad”
Thus: “My feelings get in the way of your vax injury facts”.
Glenn “Cheeto” Beck comes to mind.
That was one of those moments when you find yourself horrified at the vile behavior of a person you never thought would stoop to such depths. Even after the passage of time, you find yourself unable to wipe that ugly image of scorn, masquerading as humor from your memory.
Indeed! Tucker!!!
Bingo. This has a limited hangout feel to it but haven’t finished the whole interview yet.
Feels like the biggest limited hang out I’ve ever seen and I’m not half way through it. “Get over your moment of anger and let’s look at why doing these things this way is critical for life as we know it!!”
I’m sorry but your nuts. I can be critical of Tucker at times. This interview is not one of them. Repeatedly, patiently he waited for Benz to spit it out. Benz seemed almost apologetic, stumbling for words, unsure of what he was saying and how it might be received.
To me, he was trying to say as unseemly as this is, there may be situations that it might be acceptable.
I completely disagree. We being the representative leader of the free world, all tactics that are inconsistent with our foundational principles and morals are unacceptable. Using sexual, racial or terror issues to sow division for revolutions is despicable. If we chose to do humanitarian aid or create discontent, let freedom and liberty be the calling card. If there are real threats by adversaries, who are using the same tactics on us, show and explain it.
But his example of our politicians, complicity of promoting the censorship in Europe, creating more authoritarian control, hate speech and such, to look up citizens who object to government policies detrimental to the citizen. This is the purpose. Those in our own country, who subvert freedom elsewhere, to create an acceptance of such, a comfortability to it, than I ave it exported back to the U.S. That way, without exposing their intentions which would not be acceptable to freedom loving citizens. Get some balls, Mike Benz.
Amen, Ron. Totally agree.
I might suggest a Christian framework. Jesus did not need a USAID to do dirty deeds on behalf of the Lord. It’s not naive to suggest that being transparent about free will, liberty, freedom, whatever word you want to use, that people in other civilizations should choose how they want to live in alignment with their free will is somehow against US national interests…its just another way of saying that Empire Greed and submitting to our will is what’s best. Maybe it isn’t.
Perhaps we should trust that the truth will set you free.
Benz comes across as evil.
Compromised.
I will not go that far. Watching him boldly with all his podcast and appearances, confidently exposing the corruption, actually gives me the gut hunch he very recently may have some threats made to him. And I don’t think to his well being, but to those close to him that are innocents. I said above grow some balls. Actually I retract that. If my hunch is right, I think he was fumbling for ways or scenarios where he was trying to stay consistent with his true beliefs while softening his stance by try to create scenarios where these programs tactics are acceptable. It makes me wonder if the threat is from the IR report he mentioned, someone tied to that group. Something is going on because I’ve never seen him act this hesitant.
My thoughts exactly Ron. His oh so carefully chosen replies to Tuckers questions. He said in the beginning of the interview that he had invested so much of himself into discovery that he had sometimes neglected his family, friends. Certainly he has been “warned”
Six ways from Sunday.
His level of discomfort speaks volumes.
Herky Jerry. Former State Dept.
Check him out with Rogan. Benz is not evil, he’s been threatened.
Amen. In a way, Benz is apologizing – no way he has this deep knowledge without having participated.
Benz was jumping around and hard to follow. Maybe by nature it’s confusing.
He’s done a service, w others, educating us.
Only 5-10 years ago did I start hearing about NGOs. NGO, USAID, funding, PEPFAR, Omnibus, debt limit… it all gets confusing.
Gobs of money designated for Haiti, but only 2% got there? WTF?! Did the Clinton’s really suck that dry? Have they been AUDITED? Where did the money go? (Please no unsubstantiated PizzaParlor stories.)
Agree – for someone so committed to such an important topic as internet free speech, he seemed almost callous to what he seemed to interpret as “necessary practicalities” of secretly using taxpayer funds and US influence to interfere in foreign country internal affairs. In any case there is absolutely no excuse for doing any of that clandestinely without the full disclosure to the American public. A Republic relies on clarity and transparency as to what representatives are doing with the resources of the citizens and the country.
Well true Mike Benz comes off way worse than Tucker here.
Truth Managing being USAID funded too…? That would be the least surprising thing in all this “doge revelation”.
You mean like finding out Coca Cola funds the American Diabetic Association?
Then there is Pfizer and Moderna, making the toxic gene therapy injections, while simultaneously making drugs to mask the symptoms of the very same, along with other chemicals to extend the life of those ending up with life threatening situations…
And pushing for the “horse paste” commercials
Worse: like finding out ADA funds Coca Cola’s use of high fructose corn syrup
Thanks to PDJT, that’s become more and more evident.
SD you can see in the Warner video and right after his feigned comeuppance that senator Kennedy right after exposes the SILO syndrome that you speak of frequently.
Kennedy plays the good ole boy part and then says with great fanfare that “We” need to know what they have been spending money
on. Really???? Sitting on the committee that should know every damn dime that is voted on every year to fund USAID.. Let’s not get into the billions that the uni-party voted on the send to UKR….
Ukraine is the laundromat for politician’s greased palms!
Without an Inspector General.
Wall Street Journal comes to mind and, of course, FOX.
Wish I could remember the occasion last week. Maybe it was the signing of EOs where Rupert Murdoch joined the group in the Oval office. President Trump was complimentary to Rupert and maybe Ellison too. Have wondered about that since.
PDJT is complimentary to plenty of enemies.
I’ve never seen him taken in by them in the process.
And he’s that way with many for quite some time…
…until overnight, he isn’t. (Example Turtle)
Start naming names to get rid of those sleazeball! If we can’t vote them out, FIRE THEM!
“Don’t be afraid to ask…”
I had questions about Tuckers father before but Tucker confirms father’s USAID service in this interview. I’ve also read Tucker applied to CIA but was denied – equivalent to saying, “There’s no such thing as the mafia”. Mike Benz appears practically spooked about possible damage to trade craft.
Around same time this interview is released, Tucker makes visit to White House. Coincidence?
Is this a management campaign? Are we being managed?
Entertaining stuff….but is Tucker the only high profile Cons MSM personality granted permission by the Club for the controlled distribution of deeep state “conspiracy theories”?
Alex Jones knows what I mean.
glad the UFO/aliens from outer space psyop was discontinued.
I think Tucker is the Club’s version of a modified limited hangout….
What’s NED?
Does it stand for National Endowment for Democracy? I just did a search (which I should have done before posting); sorry! :/
NED is where Victoria Nuland went after leaving the State Department.
https://www.ned.org/about/board-of-directors/
National Endowment for Democracy (NED) is the implementer of CIA covert operations.
Elon’s work has revealed the RINOs active in NED, including Lesley Graham and Mitt Romney.
https://www.fmprc.gov.cn/eng/xw/wjbxw/202408/t20240809_11468618.html
Nothing says rino corruption like hearing Ms Linda drool like he has some kind of credibility. Ask his toy boys about his credibility.
National Endowment for Democracy. Seems so innocent and unassuming, much like MACV-SOG. Studies and Observations Group. Yet they were some real bad asses, back in the day.
Brian Berletic did great video about NED
a month ago.
The latest employment of Victoria Nuland
and home of other nefarious villains 🤷♀️💁♀️
NED is the other arm of USAID. They work in tandem.
Washington’s Unstoppable Superweapon & How to Begin Defending Against It
👆 👆 Brian Berletic….The New Atlas
This is a long interview and worth every minute. USAID has morphed into a monster of international and domestic malevolence. Most everything AID does is intended to destabilize governments. But the worst sin is having AID money laundered through a foreign NGO and then used to elect Leftist Democrats, pay BLM and ANTIFA demonstrators or subvert academia..
That may be the worst political sin.
It is not their worst sin. Not by far.
USAID also funded support for illegal aliens, from what has been coming out.
Some of our laundered taxes paid for the nice new sneakers, backpacks, cell phones, cash, tickets to our heartland, hotel rooms…
United States Agency for Intentional Destabilization
How many laws have been broken? Really how many? I can think of a few.
The real question now is when do the trials begin? No pretending anymore. Let’s get it all out in the open. Name names, raids on homes as yet unmentioned, soak the satanist with attorneys fees, pretrial confinement, busted livelihoods, all the good stuff “We the People”need to hear and see.
PDJT has some serious mental discipline. But you know he’s got a list of names even he needs to see perp walked in front of US the American public.. We can all pray along with him. Even add some of your own favorite “I’d like to see go to jail” names on the list. 🤷🏼♂️😎👏
Appropriate mention of Satan in your comment. As I sat and listened to the entire interview, all I kept thinking is Iran labeling the US as the Great Satan. I think we all know that the regular Americans are not the Great Satan. But listening to all in this interview, it’s very hard not to feel that this scum implementing this shit is in fact the Great Satan……
It is an interesting interview. But Mike Benz feeling sorry for the blob? Only two problems in life, not getting what you asked for and getting what you asked for…
I would maintain that overthrowing our OWN government in a color revolution, gaining immense wealth illicitly (Pelosi, etc.), destroying lives to promote transgenderism across the US, and censoring anyone who dissented from this madness means the blob deserves to be burned to the ground. All of it.
This was about as unwatchable as a Tucker interview could get. Both of them danced around so much. I know they know what’s really up, yet they never actually connected dots. It’s infuriating. It was painful to listening to Benz and his tortured analogies.
I felt the exact same way…….made me anxious just watching. I left the podcast.
A big reason for that is that Benz is a poser. He surely has all the hallmarks of an agent provocateur. Very much in the mold of Ray Epps–pushing for others to get out and do something.
He first hit the limelight in 2017 as an anonymous “content creator” on YouTube, using the name “Frame Game.” His schtick was “alt-right” criticism of Jews, and as a supporter of “white identitarian” issues. He hinted at his true identity, but never revealed who he was. Frame Game often shared his background as a Jewish attorney living in New York City and told interviewers he had studied psychology at an Ivy League college.
After Benz was unmasked as Frame Game, “He said the account was a covert effort intended to somehow combat the anti-semitism it espoused. “The account in question was a project by Jews to get people who hated Jews to stop hating Jews,” he wrote. “Let me be clear: I am extremely proud of this.”
So, he admitted that he was an agent provocateur then, essentially running a two year false flag operation. The question that arises, though is: Who sponsored Benz’s provocations then? And of course, who is sponsoring his second and third careers now?
His second career was in the government. Somehow, and again the question is by whose sponsorship, in 2018 Benz was hired as a speechwriter for Ben Carson HHS. Then in 2020, he was hired by the State Dept in a communications and IT role. He did that for less than a year.
Then his third career is his sudden leap to “conservative” stardom as an expert on intelligence, State Dept, CIA, and USAID.
Bottom line: Benz is a known faker and provocateur. He has minimal experience and exposure to the Intelligence Community. 8 months as a State IT guy is about enough to learn some acronyms. His current pose as an expert on CIA’s use of USAID, or any other issue is ludicrous.
He’s somebody’s mouthpiece. He’s pretty much a carbon copy of little Ben Shapiro, and other neocon nobodies who are suddenly everywhere.
Beware. Not only are his insights about the IC false, but he’s surely got ulterior motives.
The best overview of Benz’s background: https://www.yahoo.com/news/anti-censorship-crusader-appears-buried-231714022.html
Right … nbc news 🙄
Interestingly not too long after Mike Benz first began talking about the curious activities of USAID NBC’s Zadrozny used even more ink denigrating him than yourself, although she endeavored to disguise the hit on Benz as something about “online censorship”.
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/michael-benz-rising-voice-conservative-criticism-online-censorship-rcna119213
The point of the article was clearly specifically to demonize Mike Benz – the censorship mention was near non-ancillary content.
Of course this kind of personal takedown seems to be a Zadrozny specialization, the Benz hit is not unique.
But she still wants to take a bite out of Benz…
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/doge/elon-musk-boosted-false-usaid-conspiracy-theories-global-aid-rcna190646
Like yourself Z spends a lot of time throwing darts at Benz without shining much light.
You do have to consider sources, but you also have to consider facts. The details on Benz are confirmed.
Benz has admitted all the facts are true–and added more context: That his 2 years as an “alt-right” YouTube star were all fake–he posed as an anti-semitic commentator to run a provocation op against anti-semitism.
What darts? Facts. Hate facts? Maybe, if you’ve drunk the Benz kool-aid.
Benz has exactly zero background or experience in intelligence. After his provocation op on YouTube, he spent 2 years as a speechwriter for Ben Carson in HHS. Then he had a job for 8 months in State doing communications and IT.
Suddenly, he’s a world-class expert on cybersecurity and the Intelligence Community, CIA and USAID.
He’s fake.
What everyone is seeing in this interview with Carlson is his dismantling. He literally knows nothing about what he’s speaking.
Have to say, the information you presented on Mr. Benz hit a cord. Surely the United States does not need this ‘aid’ policy in order to have access to 17 different countries for the materials to make pencils???? Gosh, it is hard listening to him in this interview. Bless his heart.
Since 2022 who has revealed more about the curious USAID operations and relationships than Mike Benz?
Benz has been babbling about State/CIA/USAID, but he’s totally wrong in his assertions.
He claims/believes that USAID = CIA. That utter nonsense. Anyone who has spend any time in the field, doing intel work or “development” work knows that. Up to the 1970s, yes, there was overlap and Agency did use AID cover. Not since then.
The true situation is much, much worse!
USAID has been, since Obama days, operating as a rogue covert action agency. It is outside the IC, and therefore not subject to the rules and restrictions the IC operates under. A covert action (by the IC) requires a presidential finding–a long bureaucratic process that (though highly flawed) provides at least some structure and guidance to the operation. USAID, operating outside that structure, carried out massive covert action operations–with no input from the actual IC.
That’s what Benz is missing, and cannot understand. Because he saw the monster operating from his IT/communications office in Main State. All his flawed conclusions just throw smoke into the air and cloud the atmosphere. At a time when we need to see clearly.
So the question is: Who/what is sponsoring Benz and his smoke blowing?
Please help my understanding here.
Are you suggesting that USAID has been operating completely independent of any element of the IC or any other governmental entity, and does so with an approved $50B or so budget?
And Mike Benz avoids saying this because he is charged with providing cover?
Yes–USAID is NOT a member of the US IC, and does NOT coordinate/collaborate with the US IC.
It is totally separate from the CIA and the rest of the IC. AID is NOT used as “cover” for IC operations.
USAID is/was a rogue organization conducting covert action without being part of the legal/organizational structure of the IC. The IC has a process that splits up various targets/actions/activities to its component parts. These assignments prevent bureaucratic in-fighting, and, theoretically, create a more efficient use of resources.
USAID is NOT one of the components of the IC. From Obama/Powers on, AID discovered that it could carry out what were, in essence, covert action operations, by not calling what it was doing “covert action,” but rather flowery terms like “media empowerment” or other bull.
The IC, under Brennan, and then Trump’s first administration, then Biden’s, didn’t fight this loss of covert action ops. Probably because the ops were all neocon/PC-Prog regime change, LGBTQWERTYIUOP, etc. The CIA had plenty of stuff to do–Syria, Libya, CT, Iran, China, etc–so they played along.
Mike Benz doesn’t say this because…..HE DOESN’T KNOW THIS! Benz spent 8 months as an IT/Communications guy at Main State. He has zero idea what the IC does, or who does it, or how it is done. It appears he observed things happening, made assumptions, extrapolated. Then when his sponsors launched him into media super-stardom, he upped the ante, and suddenly he was an expert on CIA/USAID/State. He’s a fake. He may stumble on the truth sometimes, but he’s making it all up.
Details: https://kentclizbe.substack.com/p/mike-benz-is-a-poser
That sounds like the government has no control of USAID except through funding. YIKES! No wonder Musk called it a ball of worms.
^^^THIS!
Benz, Carlson and likely Rubio want USAID type intervention to continue albeit with new objectives.
I don’t think you’re appreciating the spiritual warfare of Saul Alinsky to destroy opposition. To defend yourself from Alinsky’s Rules is evidence by the unaware to maintain the Alinsky claim you are nuts, too sensitive, and so on. Benz is bravely walking the fine line of resistance against the Alinsky Rule that resistance is futile.
May appear that way, but I’m quite appreciative of covert influence operations, methods, techniques, and tactics.
In fact, I wrote the book revealing the covert influence operations that created Political Correctness in the USA. Spoiler alert: Alinsky did not create the tactics/strategies in his book. He simply wrote down what he learned after being indoctrinated in them.
The genius of covert influence who Alinsky stole from was Willi Muenzenberg.
Full details: willingaccomplices.com
He investigated the chicken coop, wrote a book about it and now the chickens are sitting on his head and they are pecking away.
Rut Roh!
Neither would say the name Seth Rich.
***Breaking***. Note inside envelopes at GHWB funeral revealed!!!***
Hey Boys: thanks for swinging by out of recognition that the whole USAID front was the Old Man’s idea. Lets see if we can like start another war to keep it going. Text me ideas (Ukraine?). Yours, Shrub.
Thank you, Sundance.
I listened to this whole podcast.
There were inordinate pauses when Mike was speaking, and I kept having to check to see if the feed had been lost…it hadn’t. What to make of those?
It almost seemed as if he was trying to process the enormity of what has been unleashed.
I’m still processing. But it struck me forcefully how Herculean is the task ( a term so often used but now made viscerally real) which President Trump faces, even surrounded by his allies….legal, technical, and otherwise.
Those who have profited from this aberrant agency are in no way moral people. And that was also my takeaway. Both Democrats and Republicans have benefited financially at a terrible cost to millions. There is no other way too explain how filthy rich they become on their salaries after one or two years in what is laughably called “public service”.
This will be a war for the ages…and one for the soul of our Republic.
Keep your armour on, friends.
We are still on the battlefield. May the good Lord see us through.
Spy Code. Death when identity has been is the known spy code consequence. The Kashoggi Treatment.
The god lord WILL see us through.
I agree. When I started watching the interview, I was getting very angry because it sounded like Benz was trying to justify the actions because “some good was done”. I stopped watching and went back to it later. It was almost like that old saying “be careful what you wish for”. Benz has been trying to expose this FOREVER, and now that it is being exposed, it doesn’t look exactly like what he hoped for. I’m still not sure that he has not been compromised and is now is self-preservation mode.
God is in Control!
Very possible, Bev. He has been ubiquitous with his interviews, and it has fascinated me with his spilling of what goes on in the DS. I’d ask myself, aren’t you fearful for retaliation?
Several here believe he is a liar.
But I wonder if he hasnt received a “message” and isn’t looking over his shoulder.
Too much conspiracy perhaps…
Benz used to say he was aware of the risk and he was willing to take the chance, paraphrasing. I think lots of people got the impression he has been warned.
The man in the interview is not the same person I have watched many times before. He does has a habit of circling back when telling his stories and at times almost a type of stutter, but in this video he seemed very guarded, unsure of himself, almost fearful, he seemed miserable sitting in that chair. He was totally contradicting himself from past arguments, suddenly the corruption is a family? He chose his words carefully, couldn’t focus, had strange body language, and there were numerous things that Tucker brought up he dodged. In the past he would have agreed with and chimed in.
I don’t think it is too much conspiracy. I think Trump has hit them w/a whirling tornado and they are trying to slow it down any way they can. ‘Suck it up buttercup, you go tell everyone you think what you uncovered is perfectly fine and is being done as a necessary for national security and the good of the nation’. At least that is what I was seeing.
What Tucker is doing, I don’t know, it felt like good cop/bad cop, or something. Many people seem to be repulsed by the video, so I don’t think we are all wrong in what we were seeing and feeling while watching it. It was awful.
With this much information rolling around his head and him putting it forward, I am fearful for him. But it’s out there and he’s been saying it for a long time. Prayers for him and his mission!
I think he is at less rick at this point. When he was out ahead of it he was a threat, but now its passed him by, the release of info is bigger than him now.
Benz is a poseur. He’s fake. He really has no valuable knowledge that he claims to have. He’s about run out his little scheme. He is Ray Epps on steroids.
We heard ya the first time, we get it, you don’t like Benz, so sit down and stfu. That’s your opinion, many others say otherwise if you’ve listened to Bannon’s War Room for the last several years. Sounds to me like you are just jealous because you’re just a nobody, same as everyone else posting here including me imho. Maybe don’t take yourself so seriously … just sayin’
Keep a civil tongue in your head, son.
Nothing to do with “liking” or disliking a poser.
Facts can be very distasteful and make people confused, and I’ll assume that’s the case with you.
I vet for a living. I’m quite good at it. Besides two careers based on successful vetting and personal assessment, I’ve exposed high-level fake conservatives, for the good of the conservative movement.
A couple examples:
https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2011/08/05/foreign-influence-in-american-politics-imad-ramadan-in-virginia/
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/06/magazine/the-plot-to-take-down-a-fox-news-analyst.html
Fascinating examples. Great reads
“…are in no way moral people…” True,
However, I think many “public servants” tend to minimize their particular role in the totality & responsibility of the whole. They try to see it differently.
So maybe they’d agree that USAID has lost its way, but they’re still in thick of it and ‘trying to turn the ship around’ from their little station post.
It’s almost a biblical type dilemma- at what point does one stop tasking, & finally face that any success just strengthens the evil? And that ‘open heart surgery’ must start now.
Excellent comment Betsy. Thanks and Amen.
Listen to this interview very, very carefully.
Sundance has drawn the distinction between Truth Tellers and Truth Managers.
Here Carlson and Benz are being Truth Managers. The entire conversation is a hang out of information they know has come out or is coming out, as well as a preemptive play against our predictable reaction to other very horrific things they know, which they also know are about to surface, in order to make the case that We The People should not throw the baby out with the bath water.
Carlson makes the case for “but we need elites, just not really bad elites” while Benz makes the case for why we need to continue to force foreign countries to host American military bases, sometimes using sub rosa means.
Having set that paradigm, they want to debate where to draw the correct lines.
My sense is that this is a conversation they have been having inside the Trump inner circle, and one maybe they have been losing. So they break it out for public (read intelligentsia) support. Or maybe they have President Trump’s approval to start “The Conversation” (in a Mencius Moldburg American Cathedral) sense.
I do not think it is possible right now to know which of those two is correct.
I do know that the whole tranny dance theory explicated by Benz is misleading, and Carlson knows it is – because Carlson has demonstrated in other interviews that he knows it is the expression of a demon led religion, more than a tool of subversion.
There is a lot more to be said about the issues they raise about American power in a multi-polar world.
I will grant them this much: losing the entire country to ontological shock isn’t a good outcome, and imploding inwards while China has troops inside our country is not a risk we should ignore.
The greater issues are a debate We The People should have, and I somewhat resent the leading strings that this interview actually is.
All that said,
Everyone should prepare their minds and hearts. The big dark nightmare they are dancing and dancing and dancing around?
Is the rabbit hole no one ever wants to go down.
“Crimes against children will unite all of humanity.”
Well written, Alex.
I can’t help but feel there is something very dark indeed which will rear its head. So dark that we will need all our faculties and faith to face it. It’s there I feel. I pray I am wrong, but given what we see now I fear is only the opening of that rabbit hole which leads to hell.
Like confirmation that Hillary Clinton and John Podesta ran a child sex trafficking ring and Pizza Gate is not a conspiracy?
Not just that, RR. My reading over the past two years tells me what they may have been facilitating and even involved in isn’t “local”only, that this is world wide enterprise. Look to Ukraine for example where the most wicked things your mind might imagine are apparently going on.
Why, one has to ask, have heaven, earth, and obscene amounts of money, and weaponry being maniacally pushed by those in Congress and the State Deoartment under Biden on what was clear from the beginning was a lost cause.
When I close my eyes at night, safe in my bed, I remember all the children in the hands of monsters who wonder where their mothers and fathers are, and ask why they don’t come to rescue them from the terrors no child should ever endure.
“For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.”
Ecclesiastes 1:18 KJV
We say we want to know…but I’m afraid when we finally do, there will be a terrible price for knowing.
Betsy, I do not doubt it, and I do not doubt it will drive us all to our knees seeking God’s forgiveness.
I do think that those who know (and who cannot sleep now with what they have seen and cannot unsee stuck in their heads) will spare us knowing the very, very worst, including the worst videos and images, both for the sake of preserving a functioning world and out of respect for the tortured and dead children.
God bless Team Patriot, especially those who bore the horrible burden for us, in order to save humanity.
I pray so, Alex. I have little doubt President Trump knows, as does Melania, even knew before his overthrow.
As for those who already know and have seen, I pray for them as well. Their burden is permanent, as you say, and unimaginable. Amen.
You make me think of the expression on Devin Nunes’ face when he stepped out of that SCIF in – I think it was 2018…
This
Pizza gate is real. Hillary and Podesta participated in child sex trafficking ring. James Alefantis of Comet Pizza (Pizza gate) ran a child sex trafficking operation.
Podesta ” artwork” Betsy.
It was more like serial killer trophy preservation.
See above, dear friend…
That was John’s brothers (Tony IIRC) artwork – agony in the throes of death; and lots of paintings of bound, spanked and dead children. John’s artwork featured cannibalism.
On this we agree.
Perfect summary.
So we are never going to see the JFK files, after all?
We are.
When the time is right.
Truth always outs. Whether anyone cares, is the only unknown.
https://truthsocial.com/@01010001/posts/113942459772620092
Those you trust the most.
Prey
Pray
Crimes Against Humanity
https://truthsocial.com/@georgekennedy/posts/113957752485020445
Bigger than you can imagine.
If you aren’t familiar with Dr David Martin, may I suggest researching and finding any or all of the incredible videos of his expert…I mean truly expert…testimonies about what was inflicted worldwide by nefarious and evil forces during the Covid years.
I have a suspicious you may already be…but just in case, I thought I’d mention it.
The ominous impression of this video was recognizable even in the first few minutes. Immoral people in DC have made America feel dirty. Our pride in our country has been taken from us.
You describe it perfectly, Dixie. A nightmare world I couldn’t wait to shut off after listening…then realizing that world is the reality we had no clue we lived in.
The things David has talked about are unicorns and rainbows compared to the depths of hell that holds the full truth of what has been done over the years…a place so dark and evil infused that only those of unwavering faith can look inside and not at least temporarily go insane.
I thought of Christ in The Garden of Gethsemane, Harrison, and His weeping tears of blood. As if, or perhaps in fact, He was seeing the sins of the whole world…too terrible for us to face without, as you say, going momentarily mad…that He was destined to die for.
This is the direction of my thinking as President Trump works so hard to reveal those dark waters and just who swims in them.
That is an example of the type of reaction I alluded to in the Presidential thread today…
As you well know, they are everywhere and tend to concentrate in the halls of ‘power’.
I’ve never seen Benz so tongue-tied. We may need a Soft Power apparatus, but not a CIA that gives Viagra to Afghan warlords. Or builds genetic Viruses with China’s military dictatorship to impose One-World Gumment.
Nor I, Gipper. It was instant.
I think he knows more than he was telling and trying to judge how much of it he spoke here.
Where do you think Benz got his “secret knowledge”?!
Look at his background–he has ZERO experience in intelligence. He is a faker. He knows nothing about the IC.
Seems that he’s realizing that he’s run out the clock on his fake schtick of pretending to have some deep dark secrets.
Benz almost sounds as though he is apologizing for the State Department and USAID.
Yes. I get nuance. But the hesitancy conveys a lack of moral clarity. Or obfuscation.
👉”Truth managers” juxtaposed to “Truth tellers”👈
😈Satan is a “Truth manager” Genesis 3:1 before he’s a “Truth denier”.
Satan😈=”Has God indeed said,…” (laying the foundation for Truth denial).
Howbeit when He, the Spirit of truth, is come, He will guide you into all truth: for He shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever He shall hear, that shall He speak: and He will shew you things to come.
John 16:13
I’m not even through the full interview and I’m already just completely creeped out by the obvious phoniness and pretending that both men are exhibiting, and not even doing it well!
Mike Benz is usually very direct and very well spoken but he keeps hesitating and rambling and telling convoluted stories, in some bizarre attempt to justify many of the actions that have been taken around the world. Tucker seems to have been given a list of subjects he can, and cannot, broach and he seems much more stilted than usual, as if he’s dancing through a field of landmines and he’s not quite sure where they are all located.
All in all, definitely a limited hangout, and they both appear to be very nervous about their assignment, IMHO!
I agree, but I am not too worried.
In any case, this interview sets up far too many question to enumerate.
I expect there will be many more exposés pulled out of the massive cesspool that is our government.
Right now the corruption is simply too big to fully comprehend.
Who knows if Trump’s four year term will be enough to clean this mess up.
In any case it will probably take a generation to trust in our government, if ever.
Agree
Lin Wood
Was USAID just one branch of the funding tree for the CIA???
Were branches of freemasonry also part of the CIA funding tree???
Lin Wood
How many of the ruling elite are heterosexuals???
How many are pedophiles???
I don’t know.
What do you think???
Lin 🙏❤️🇺🇸
None of them are normal people. If this is what the world is made up of, I want no part of it.
WSJ is as TDS subversive as the LA Times today.
How can we in good conscience write checks to IRS on April 15?
Serious question. How will Trump protect those payments for us?
can hardly wait for Trump’s team to swarm the blue cities to ferret out the federal election fraud
once the massive fraud on the federal election side is exposed, he’ll audit the state elections by citing the newly found fraud as evidence of civil rights violations
Trump is no doubt aware that his term will be just 2 years if he allows the status quo to cheat the house blue in 2026
stick it to ratshitburger and kemp and start with atlanta
eternally grateful to be a witness to the greatest president any free country in the world has ever seen, ever
Lord, please protect and continue to guide this man as he accomplishes your mission
I spent most of the interview thinking, “with friends like Benz…”
If we need to twist arms, then twist some arms. ‘Color revolutioning’ is not a legitimate means of projecting power. It’s a quick path toward becoming a universally hated pariah.
These people will say anything to keep these asinine grifts going. Coons basically dismisses American’s concern because this $20,000,000 really isn’t that much in the grand scheme of things. Really? This could build about 70+ or more modest homes for the folks who lost everything in the devastation of Hurricane Helene. This is just insulting.
Come on man, just tell us where the money is really going.
“Democrat Senator Chris Coons Offers an Insane Reason to Justify Spending Millions of Taxpayer Dollars on Sesame Street in IRAQ Via USAID (VIDEO)”
Excerpts:
“Is funding Sesame Street (in Iraq) a judicious use of soft power?” Smerconish asked.
Democrat, Coons went ALL IN on defending the indefensible with this insane response.
“This isn’t just funding a kids show for children, millions of children in countries like Iraq,” Coons claimed.
“It’s a show that helps teach values, helps teach public health, helps prevent kids from dying from dysentery and disease, and helps push values like collaboration, peacefulness, cooperation in a society where the alternative is ISIS extremism and terrorism,” he added.
“It’s pennies on the dollar,” he continued. “The Department of Defense has an annual budget of $850 billion. USAID was spending about $30 billion.”
Coons then invoked Joe Biden’s name to continue to defend this ridiculous waste of money and called it “smart power”.
“It’s a small proportion of our overall federal spending. And as Joe and I would often say, it’s not just soft power, it’s smart power.”
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/02/democrat-senator-chris-coons-offers-insane-reason-justify/
Ufh!! NAILED HIM! (This is why I can’t watch Benz – I’ve been tuning into Operation Gladio too long).
Benz is a faker. Not clear if he’s faking for his own profit (my gut is that is just a bonus), or for someone/something else.
He has no background in the subjects he’s pretending to be expert in. He has no experience in intelligence, the CIA, or USAID.
He did 8 months as an IT guy in the State Dept in 2020.
Good catch to suspect him.
I listened to the entire thing. I wasn’t impressed with Mike’s apologizing and justifying for what has been done in some actions to force change in other countries to affect an out come in the name of national interest.
It’s bullying. We are not the world’s keepers. If change can’t come organically instead of manipulation, it has to end. Sometimes you lose and don’t get your way. Take it on the chin and move on. Don’t funnel money to destabilize a country and cause world or regional chaos.
We do not need a military base in Bangladesh anymore.
We have almost everything we could need, here on the continent of North America. And we can set the economic terms for buying those few products we cannot mine, grow, or make here.
Fortress America does NOT need a resuscitated US AID.
Once we have Greenland and Canada, and the Iron Dome, as well as control over the Panama Canal and a subdued Mexico, the rest of the world can pretty much go suck a lemon.
The world in which both Benz and Carlson are operating for purposes of their discussion is dead.
They just go not seem to know it yet.
I’ve never seen Benz struggle to verbalize his ideas in all his prior vids, as he’s very articulate but here he struggles immensely because he’s trying to justify the US Gov engaging in dirty tricks abroad so that the US gets cheaper imports, without saying so directly.
Benz reveals his ethics by trading off a moral foreign policy against having cheap imports and this trade-off is disgusting.
I’d rather pay more for imports instead of paying less while corrupting the world, ruining the reputation of the US and inciting global strife.
👉After watching 👀 Lindy Li interview it seems there are a vast amount of graduates from the I C “Truth management” degree program. This interview seems to be another example 👈👌👍
IMHO, Benz was a messenger sent to Tucker. Benz has done the groundwork to set the stage for millions of people to readily recognize the swamp’s MO. Elon and his team are releasing information much faster than anyone could have imagined. Thank AI, I suppose. But that’s another discussion. Tucker is an accelerator who can move passions quickly one way or the other. It’s interesting that the conversation never got to BLM riots or January 6. I think Tucker realized he was pushing Benz to a place he really didn’t want to go and Tucker backed off. The long and short: Benz is realizing this stuff is moving much faster than he could have dreamed and he’s afraid of where it could lead. Tucker has the correct instincts, imho. This is evil. We reap what we sow. Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind. Apply whichever adage fits. For me it’s antithetical to God. Jesus said,”let your yes be yes and your no, no. ” We can either tie ourselves in knots, (a house divided can not stand) or we can pursue what is right and let the chips fall where they may. We must allow God’s power to set the course and tame the world, NOT pretense, darkness and manipulation. All understand, we are on shaky ground right now. Get on your knees. We don’t grasp how badly we need God’s intervention.
I thought the same thing, that Benz didn’t think this would get so big, so fast, and he’s nervous he may get suicided. But Trump and his team planned this out years ago, Benz just got really lucky and hit the jackpot that his nose picked up the scent years ago too.
NED?
NED = National Endowment for Democracy
From Sundance’s Trips to Russia, it would seem the proper course would be to sit down with them and agree to develop the Ukraine resources for US, Russia , and Ukraine. Not to start some war? Japan wants to invest 1 Trillion with us for oil.
Looks like Lisa and the gang have had their security clearances jerked.
Surprised Mary and Samantha nit in the list, unless they already had theirs pulled.
How does Benz think we are winning now? It is a nightmare.
Benz is running out his 15 seconds of fame. Seems like people are finally beginning to see through him.
Benz is a poser. He surely has all the hallmarks of an agent provocateur. Very much in the mold of Ray Epps–pushing for others to get out and do something.
He first hit the limelight in 2017 as an anonymous “content creator” on YouTube, using the name “Frame Game.” His schtick was “alt-right” criticism of Jews, and as a supporter of “white identitarian” issues. He hinted at his true identity, but never revealed who he was. Frame Game often shared his background as a Jewish attorney living in New York City and told interviewers he had studied psychology at an Ivy League college.
After Benz was unmasked as Frame Game, “He said the account was a covert effort intended to somehow combat the anti-semitism it espoused. “The account in question was a project by Jews to get people who hated Jews to stop hating Jews,” he wrote. “Let me be clear: I am extremely proud of this.”
So, he admitted that he was an agent provocateur then, essentially running a two year false flag operation. The question that arises, though is: Who sponsored Benz’s provocations then? And of course, who is sponsoring his second and third careers now?
His second career was in the government. Somehow, and again the question is by whose sponsorship, in 2018 Benz was hired as a speechwriter for Ben Carson HHS. Then in 2020, he was hired by the State Dept in a communications and IT role. He did that for less than a year.
Then his third career is his sudden leap to “conservative” stardom as an expert on intelligence, State Dept, CIA, and USAID.
Bottom line: Benz is a known faker and provocateur. He has minimal experience and exposure to the Intelligence Community. 8 months as a State IT guy is about enough to learn some acronyms. His current pose as an expert on CIA’s use of USAID, or any other issue is ludicrous.
He’s somebody’s mouthpiece. He’s pretty much a carbon copy of little Ben Shapiro, and other neocon nobodies who are suddenly everywhere.
Beware. Not only are his insights about the IC false, but he’s surely got ulterior motives.
The best overview of Benz’s background: https://www.yahoo.com/news/anti-censorship-crusader-appears-buried-231714022.html
Give it a rest. Benz’ background from yahoo news. Really… 👀
And a whole lot of repetition.
As Sundance says:
“If you walk into a room, and the people within it respond negatively to your presence, it’s likely because your disposition unnerves their demons. The need for control is a reaction to fear, and you have stopped pretending. As a consequence, you create fear amid those who do.”
There’s a lot of fear in this room when the truth about Benz is presented.
I’m not pretending. And people seem to be afraid of that. Oh, well.
Like the terrorists in Charlottesville?
That was a dress rehearsal for the J6 Trump Trap Coup.
Not sure how having Rubio the head of the USAID disaster is 100% positive. There’s a reason he received so much uniparty support for his confirmation.
The administrator of USAID is supposed to be the Sec State, according to the EO issued by JFK in 1961.
This guy has had a visit.
His tone and demeanor have noticeably changed.
Pray for his safety.
or his exposure?
I’m admitting I simply do not know.
He’s either afraid for his life or backpedaling because this is happening too hard and fast and “his job is at stake.”
He was busy sowing racial animosity here.
I used to love watching and listening to Benz. I watched this last night, I could barely stomach this interview. It was definitely not a good end of the night before bed thing to watch. It was disturbing.
It was just bizarre and so was Benz. Everything about him was off. He was struggling hard. He was defending all the corruption that he supposedly worked so hard to bring to light. I mean WTF? I was not expecting that.
I did get a chuckle when Tucker mentioned all the methods for a color revolution used over there was done here. Benz ran like a chicken w/his head cut off.
I read the Tucker comment section and thankfully realized it wasn’t just me having issues w/him. Interesting reading CTH comments. I felt as if I needed a shower when the interview was done.
So is this the IC community pulling back since there is too much awareness and angst and demands for reform rising among us dumb Plebs?
Serious question.
I believe he has been threatened…and probably by a legitimate source. He’s scared. That’s the only thing that explains his hesitancy.
Benz was acting very cagey.
At 32:50 Tucker talks about events in the U.S. that seemed to arise out of nowhere and have a destabilizing effect. Just yesterday, conveniently occurring just after Trump won re-election, there was a strange seemingly-spontaneous gathering of rather formal-looking “Nazi white supremacists” on an overpass in Cincinnati unfurling a banner over I-75 making the blacks nervous.
If Samantha Power was in charge of it, you know it’s not good for democracy.
Shutting down USAID was Trump’s call because they ignored his EO. My Twitter feed has been erupting non stop with one shocking, infuriating and despicable revelation after the other. I only started following Mike Benz a few days ago, I know little about him. So as far as I’m concerned, this whole takedown of USAID is Trump’s baby, I don’t care about Mike Benz. I’ll be eternally grateful to DJT for just this alone if he did nothing else but play golf the next 4 yrs.
Now having said all that, this interview felt like “Managed Truth” or I called it “Damage Control” what I’ve learned from X this week far surpasses anything in this interview. I got the impression this is something being discussed in Trumpworld behind the scenes and they want every damning revelation out there, extreme radical transparency which ain’t sitting well with the Club. Tucker’s demeanor and his admission his father worked for USAID confirmed that for me. (Let’s face it, Dick Carlson didn’t stop by the USAID building to have coffee and chat with employees about the big weekend.) Benz seemed like he was told he better not agitate the plebes because they’re afraid of the Qaddafi treatment. So for all the bullshit about how USAID funneled money to every media outlet, they were manipulating us too.
Best explanation for Benz and Carlson’s demeanor, both were off their game in this interview and it wasn’t for lack of trying.
https://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/. Another organization that needs to be blowing in the wind. Their website makes you need a barf bag. Exactly how many of these organizations/agencies are in existence? I think it is endless.
I keep thinking about Kayla Mueller, she wanted to make a difference by doing humanitarian aid. How many college kids have they gotten a hold of while in college to major in this type of field? How many churches? Programming them. It is sick.
Strange interview. I’m left with a vibe of ”What have I Wrought” from Benz.
When TWO Legacy Intel Kids Get TOGETHER to STATE THAT
” The WOOD CHIPPER ” and ” The BRUSH CHOPPER ”
Is MOVING TOO FAST
PRAY For DISCERNMENT and PRAY FOR WISDOM –
THEN FORTITUDE To WEATHER The RESET.
I have listened to this interview and have come to the conclusion that our “behind the scenes administrative state ” is The Great Satan as most of the rest of the world has called us.
I expect things to get ugly, and possibly dangerous before we the people can correct this. 95% of the people in DC need to be sent home. We need to get our manufacturing back home and stop trying to rule the rest of the world.
Open the books to it all and let us see all of the corruption. Without knowing how truly deep and evil it has behaved, we cannot begin to get a handle on how to correct it.
I haven’t yet created my list of the people who need to be indicted and prosecuted .
For those that don’t choose to support YouTube.
https://tuckercarlson.com/tucker-show-mike-benz-2025
He sounds a lot like Oppenheimer in this interview: What have I done?!!! No worries Mike—you did nothing. You are not part of it. President Trump and Elon Musk are “slaying the beast.”
While soft power is necessary, the United States government and national security establishment have not been wielding it for the benefit of the American public. Instead, they have been advancing a progressive political agenda by funding left-wing regimes (Poland, Romania) and insurrectionist opposition parties (Hungary, Ukraine) in Europe, supporting terrorist entities like Hamas in the Middle East, bribing journalists and the media, and engaging in corruption to enrich themselves.
The re-election of Donald Trump gave us literally a fighting chance to stop the fake economy of being close to those who run the literal money-making machine from taking over the real economy of beneficial transactions.
Mike Benz, like others we need to stop, defends the dirty deeds of USAID since he wants it reformed to benefit his directives. So, he argues to keep USAID even though it is corrupt and sinister. He thinks he can justify the evil that is done. There is no defense for evil.
I tried… I really did! But the further I progressed it continued to be an affirmation of the multitude of this sites well respected commenters. So I struggled with the point of continuing to expose myself to the tortured speaking deficiencies, the stuttering, stopping, pausing, change of directions, circling back, ad nauseam, that prevented me from exposing myself to the verbal – whatever that was. Made it about 1/2 way.
I’ve have mixed views about Benz, but this interview – in which he seems to partially justify what Nuland did in Ukraine – is revolting to me. I couldnt listen to the rest of it bc that idea just smelled like agitprop. I see no world in which a USAID that does anything apart from helping people with natural disasters, is needed. It’s too susceptible to abuse.
Those pencils will be made if there’s demand and profit, not because we’re running around the world causing havoc. And we have our oil and the ability to make do if someone doesnt want to sell to us.
As for Tucker, I take it on faith alone that he’s a decent person. But I’ve always wondered about his dad and whether he feels the need to justify whatever he did versus apologize for it.
I dont think Benz is necessarily a bad person, but he just has that smell of the blob about him, which always casts a pall over his motivations.
This knowledge puts a lot of people from USAID in the legal, and civil crosshairs of the US people.
Should we ever have accountability everyone from USAID belongs in the prison system of El Salvador.
Benz does a valuable service helping us understand what the blob is, what they do and how they do it.
Benz is hesitant to celebrate the demolition of “soft power” institutions like USAID because he seems to think that they’re the reason we have cheap energy and access to other natural resources from abroad, and by extension, the reason why we’re a prosperous country. I disagree with him about this. There are plenty of nations that are at least as prosperous as we are, that have similar energy costs and which are largely dependent on imports for a broad range of natural resources, that don’t have foreign policy blobs meddling with other nations on their behalf. It looks to me like what the blob does is spend huge sums of public money to benefit, at most, a very small set of US interest groups.
Well. Finally Mike Benz reveals himself. It’s not that dirty tricks (soft power) are bad, he just doesn’t like the ideology of those in charge right now. He’s fine with overthrowing foreign governments and meddling in the resultant coup, as long as His priorities are king.
I appreciate his help in finishing off the deep state, but I hope we don’t allow him or his kind to reincarnate it.
That’s not what he said at all.
When will the “shocked” and “outrage” train ask the question – How is it that USAID has gone from a $64 billon relatively unknown entity to the single most corrupt thing EVER in a matter of days?
I don’t think anyone who has followed Sundance for the past decade or so is at all surprised, or learned anything new, from the Benz “revelations”. He just popped out of no where and is now ubiquitous. Reminds me of Gonzalo Lira.
Another odd site is that data republican(small r). Again out of no where. Again alleging deep reveals [NED=IRI + NID]. Again information we’ve known for years from Sundance.
Big question re Ukraine: Why are we fighting a Christian country? Russia is not Communist USSR.
Here’s him with Rogan – totally different animation – no hesitation.
That link is a 3 hour interview – no need to watch more than a few minutes to compare his demeanor with Rogan vs Tucker.