Businessman Donald Trump previously used the pseudonym John Barron and John Miller to drop information within media that served his interests. The activity long known, and the intent was easily understood. President Trump has always known how to use media.
There are many who have questioned why President Trump has often allowed New York Times journalist Maggie Haberman access to him; and some have been frustrated because the outcomes of that access have often resulted in negative stories. However, when taken in context, President Trump’s allowance of Haberman can be viewed through the same prism of his history using John Barron/John Miller.
As a result, while there is often a skewed negativity behind the outcomes of the Haberman stories, there are also elements of truth within the manipulated context of them. A recent story about President Trump and Elon Musk carries that same sense.
Haberman writes that President Trump is growing weary of Musk’s constant proximity, calling the tone from Trump on the issue a situation where Musk is “clingy.”
While I doubt that President Trump would ever publicly distance himself from the influential billionaire, at least not while he serves a purpose for President Trump, there’s no reason to dismiss Haberman’s report as completely manufactured.
Musk is in the Trump orbit because President Trump has positioned Musk in the Trump orbit. However, when considering the full background of Musk’s activity in politics, there is a clear intention for the tech bros to want the proximity. Because these are influence games, it is worth paying attention to the inside baseball aspects.
FLORIDA – Publicly, Donald Trump is thrilled to have his mega-donor and “First Buddy” Elon Musk camping out just a few hundred feet from his house. Privately, he seems to be tiring of Musk dropping in whenever he feels like it.
“Trump does complain a bit to people about how Musk is around a lot,” New York Times journalist and “Trump whisperer” Maggie Haberman told tech reporter Kara Swisher during the latest episode of Swisher’s podcast, On.
After pouring more than a quarter-billion dollars into Trump’s re-election effort, Musk has been renting the $2,000-per-night Banyan Cottage at Trump’s private Mar-a-Lago club, the New York Times reported last week.
It’s not clear who will ultimately foot the bill for the cottage, which is just a few hundred feet from Trump’s main residence and transition-team headquarters. From Banyan, Musk has been able to attend Trump’s personnel meetings and crash awkward dinners with rival tech billionaires, like Amazon founder Jeff Bezos.
“He really parked himself in Trump’s face,” Haberman said.
For now, Musk seems to be on the winning side of the MAGA civil war that’s pitted Silicon Valley’s regulation-hating tech bros against the original grassroots loyalists who have backed Trump since 2016, she said. But it’s not clear how long that will last. (read more)
From the outside it does appear that Musk is holding influence, and it is also true that President Trump is affirming the influence in a positive light; that’s what he does (until he doesn’t).
Many people have forgotten, the Silicon Valley team previously aligned to support Ron DeSantis; Musk even used his platform to try and boost the Florida Governor long before his hidden agenda to cozy up to MAGA for 2024 operations were evident. Trump headed off that alignment simply by defeating DeSantis very publicly, and as a consequence he became the vessel for the Tech Bros to jump aboard; but again, that is the way Trump intervenes by using his seismic scale.
When originally outlining the relationship between the Technocrats and their need for political influence through Trump, I said the alignment would continue as long as the global and domestic interests of the Silicon Valley crew were on a parallel path with MAGA nationalism. However, there was always going to be a moment when those paths diverged. We are witnessing that split now in real time.
The question is not whether the two aligned interests will split, they will. The question is more a matter of what will happen at the time of the divergence. How will the tech teams with massive money invested, respond to a lack of policy influence.
Looking into the future, this is where JD Vance becomes a key focus. Vice President JD Vance was brought into the Trump campaign orbit by the same Silicon Valley network that chose to align with MAGA.
Additionally, just as Donald Trump Jr playing the role of Fredo was used by the Russia collusion engineers to create a narrative by bringing Natalia Veselnitskya into Trump Tower in 2016, so too was Don Trump Jr used by the Tech Bros who have alternative interests with Vance.
As long as the Silicon Valley/MAGA alignment continues, DJT Jr will even brag about it. But once it splits, and it will split, he won’t mention his support again.
Over a year ago I had this exact conversation with people in the Trump orbit. That was when the stealth DeSantis operation was underway – long before DeSantis announced – and people refused to believe DeSantis would be so tone deaf.
The current scenario is not that challenging to game out, for the same reason the Ron DeSantis effort was so easy to see as it was being constructed. Once you stop pretending, stop hoping, stop believing that MAGA holds the support of anyone in power, except Trump; it becomes easier to understand the motives and intents of the players.
Here’s essentially what I predicted would happen (dinner with DN):
The Silicon Valley billionaire tech team will inject themselves into the Trump circle with the use of donor allies and big money. [They did] The tech team may even bring in the VP candidate in the process; while I pointed to Peter Thiel’s (Palantir) operation with JD Vance [They did]. Twitter is their influence operation. However, the goals and objectives of the tech team are self-centered and financial; not Make America Great Again for the voters. That reality will lead to a split, and that’s when JD Vance will be pressured to fulfill his obligations to them, not MAGA.
Whereas DeSantis was a failed 2024 effort for the Tech crew, the JD Vance effort is much more targeted toward 2028. This reality is not being divisive, it is just accepting the natural continuum of influence that always circles presidential politics.
Well over a year ago, I put the timeline of the split at/around April of 2026. However, given the nature of the events as they have unfolded in recent weeks, that timeline is likely much shorter.
I did not think the Tech Team would drop their MAGA masks until well into the first term when policy started rolling out. Incredibly, they dropped the masks before the inauguration even took place. The speed and intensity of their timeline should put context upon how much they think of themselves.
The way the Lawfare operatives including Andrew Weissmann, Barry Berke, Norm Eisen and Mary McCord saw their influence ability in the DOJ effort against Trump, is analogous to how the Silicon Valley tech operatives see their influence ability in 2025 albeit on a different agenda.
They really do think they are the masters of the new Trump universe. They aren’t, and it will be slightly funny to watch them realize it.
I don’t have a comment so I’ll simply say hello to all the Treepers out there.
I do.
Musk is a rat.
I see what you did there….
Catholics believe in redemption, have a little faith. Look at the major changes in DJT since 2015, I say he’s different than he was before. These meaningful changes in human nature don’t happen over night.
Spiritual Warfare aka Psychological Warfare steps:
Identify fear triggers.
Trigger fear.
Fear, like booze, quickly shuts down the part of the brain needed to logically assess new data although the prey is unaware that that theyre impaired and now dependent on old tapes
and other peoples guidance ie
the psywar seducers who offered the intoxicating emotional cocktails before plying them with words
What, no Musk Rat love? lol,only old folks will get this.
Darryl Dragon and Toni Tennille, please call your office. 😊
“Musk is a rat”
Response to this ad hominem?
Humming the old Captain and Tennile tune “Muskrat Love”.
Smiling.
And praying for all who get triggered intoemotionally poisoning themselves and the people they target.
People like the super villains known as Cheetoh Jesus PDJT and his side kick, Elon the Muskrat.
Hi.
Happy NewYear!
Comment? Here’s one….
To all the Don Jr. defenders….
Sundance just called him “Fredo”.
QUOTE:
”just as Donald Trump Jr playing the role of Fredo was used by the Russia collusion engineers to create a narrative by bringing Natalia Veselnitskya into Trump Tower in 2016, so too was Don Trump Jr used by the Tech Bros who have alternative interests with Vance.”
So stop with your defense of Trump’s “Fredo”, ie. Don Jr.
Thankfully not 47’s 1st rodeo….same circus….different clowns…
I am telling you Trump has a big plan for Elon. The DOGE is just a cover. In Pres Trumps last presidency the intel community withheld crucial info from DJT and never briefed him on many things. Musk has access to lots of stuff and can brief DJT on them. He also has access to all the old Twitter files. And while you may diss Palantir, I think Musk et al will use it to protect DJT’s presidency.
Dont forget there are many Obama/Biden holdovers still in the entrenched positions who are working as I type, to sabotage DJT’s presidency. In addition there are EU, UK forces doing the same.
For eg as I posted yesterday about the Muslim grooming gangs in the UK which Musk elucidated and which went viral, this was payback for the UK Labour Party and Starmer sending 100 lefty scum operatives to try and influence the elections.
DJT and Musk have nor forgotten and if you read this you can see-today Musk even mentions the factss I posted yesterday in response to Macron (the snake) who accused Musk of election interference. Germany did the same.
And today in GWP Starmer said the UK would re-evaluate the 5 eyes unless DJT got rid of Musk.
THEY ARE ALL RUNNING SCARED
As for Musk staying at MALago–its the safest place for him. Musk himself said that people had tried 2 or 3 times to kill him. They will try again.
HERES MUSK REPLYING TO MACRON WHO ACCUSES HIM OF ELECTION INTERFERENCE:
https://nitter.poast.org/elonmusk/status/1876325206484038113#m
Here’s Starmer running scared:
REPORT: UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer May Cut Britain’s Security Ties With U.S. Unless Trump Distances Himself From Elon Musk
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/01/report-keir-starmer-may-cut-britains-security-ties/
Thank GOD that Elon Musk is bringing the horrific, disgusting treatment of these abandoned girls to the light!
Those who are looked on to protect these children are complicit in their inaction.
It appears that not getting the Pakis riled up is preferable to protecting these tortured U.K. girls.
How well our Lord Jesus Christ spoke when He said in John 3: 19-21:
“19And this is the condemnation,
that light is come into world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because
their deeds were evil.
20For every one that
doeth evil hateth
the light, neither
cometh to the light, lest his deeds
should be reproved.
21But he that doeth truth cometh to the light,
that his deeds may
be made manifest, that
they are wrought in God.”
(KJV)
Oh like that time Starmer called @realDonaldTrump a racist and said the British government should do everything to stop him? Or when Starmer sent British Labour Party members to campaign in the US against President Trump this year?
https://nitter.poast.org/elonmusk/status/1876325206484038113#m
People: ‘President Trump is crazy.’
President Trump: ‘Yeah, but Musk is crazier.’ 😁
Remember back… there was an interview with President Trump in which he stated that he brought an “unhinged” military figure with him, where at the first sight of the unhinged guy, our adversaries would immediately kowtow? Trump has a way with people… he’s a master class in and of himself.
Sorry, I can’t remember which interview and which crazy guy…. I spend hours listening to podcasts and interviews in the background of my day to day… but this Treehouse is the best for recollections.
That was in reference to “The Mustache”.
The Left: “Trump will be an Authoritarian Dictator!”
Also The Left: “Trump is a Puppet of Elon Musk!”
I agree with you. Until the inauguration, Trump and Musk are not safe. Mar-a-lago is safest for both of them. When Trump becomes president, he can properly defend Musk life.
Also not safe after inaugeration. Continue praying.
We are already surrounded by beneficial miracles.
While Musk’s true intentions are debatable, he did have some type of program monitoring the election results. He was very confident of PDJT’s win early on.
Did this prevent a lot of the usual fraud that occurs? Perhaps. Which could explain PDJT’s attitude towards him… in addition to the large donation.
Whether Musk uses that against him is the bigger question.
Musk doesn’t have any other home, people forget that. It’s not as if he sold his other residence and moved to Florida.
Musk has the entire top floor suite of any high end hotel in the world if he so chooses.
$$$$$
Musk has purchased several acres as a compound for his former wife and mothers of his children, so they may live in relative proximity to each other for support. I imagine he has a place amongst them, but likely not at the security detail he would have at MAL alongside Trump. I believe, too, Elon is a benefit for Trump to have at this time especially dealing with Silicon Valley elitists who wouldn’t jump on the Trump train until the destination was already set. All are Trump haters, until they are forced to kiss the ring.
Musk sold the seven mansions he owned in California (over $100 million total) when he left that state. He was then living in a 400 sq ft “tiny home” located near his Space-X launch site in Boca Chica TX. (Before Mar a Lago)
He also used to live on a couch in his office near the production floor at his Tesla factory back when they were struggling to get their manufacturing line going.
Musk is an odd duck for a super-rich guy.
yep yep
My thoughts were that Trump needs Musk for security purposes and Musk needs Trump for security purposes..
why do you think Musk carries his kid around on his shoulders everywhere ?
especially where it’s totally inappropriate and disrespectful, like thru the halls of Congress.
Child human shield.
Elon’s industrial vision (transportation, communication, and energy via batteries and space) can align with MAGA, if those tools are made by Americans for Americans. We can uplift the US worker and wealth, while Elon/Thiel get to be the next Rockefeller/Chase or Carnegie/JPMorgan. Those were times of great investment in cities, philanthropy and academia; the Industrial Revolution turned the US into a superpower.
It is exactly what Trump wants as a legacy for the ages. All we need is Elon to curb his temper long enough to make money, exactly what some of us had been saying about Trump and his tendency to pour on the snark. These men have the potential to literally transform the country for generations.
Awhile that may become reality, the potential danger of Elon can also be true. His changing of the algorithm to silence H1B critics on X was not a good move by the ‘ guardian of community free speech ‘. Mike Benz, one of the biggest whistleblowers and explainer of how the censorship collusion had taken place and the agencies and players involved,had been using X exclusively to post content a promoting X as THE safe place to be. UNTIL, he heard the reports on the H1B argument causing Lara Loomer’s account to be blocked or cancelled. Now listen to Benz change in tone after doing hid own investigation.
I’ll be convinced of Trump’s handling of the tech bros when application of anti-trust laws are carried out, which is long overdue. How about starting with Amazon?
Google first. It actively engages in anti-competitive practices and it’s censorship pervasive on all its platforms.
Agree! Force Google to divest the Android phone operating system for a start!
Sundance, I sincerely believe you have forgotten more than I will ever personally know about the inner-workings of the DC Politburo & IC than I would ever know, and that’s saying something given my background. This said, I can not, in the slightest, agree with your alternative position on Haberman.
Your mistrust/apprehension of Musk is completely & absolutely understandable, but not while elevating Haberman as some sort of credible/reliable source.
I don’t disagree with any other item this article points out, but the belief in the Haberman falsetto is a stretch too far IMHO.
I didn’t take Sundance comments as endorsing Maggie Haberman per se. Rather, it’s Trump using her (via a pseudonym) to get information out there, similar to how the CIA DOJ FBI use the New York Times, Washington Post, CNN.
The issue, given the source, is whether the information is filtered.
Can’t have it both ways: the MSM always lies; can’t be trusted; shouldn’t even be listened to (many post that).
But the MSM can be trusted at times?
My beef really isn’t with the trust thrust behind all of this: it’s with the absolutes/universals.
Prioritize. Have internal metrics to constantly assess movement toward overall goals. Make intelligent deals when necessary to move the ball forward. Assess short versus long term interests in each decision. Make trade-offs when it serves one’s purposes.
It’s a continuous process.
That’s what PDJT doses. Lotta folks are in for huge disappointment if they believe his Presidency will be exclusively strong arming.
It is ALL CLICKBAIT….. WE WON…..PERIOD.
We did all that we that we could do in getting him elected AGAIN.
Now its up to him….no amount of pearl clutching on every generated talking point, HERE or anywhere else is going to change much…..if ANYTHING.
Sundance is a GREAT tour guide…and educator…..!
But the site needs, and we thrive on ANXIOUS, clever and EXPERT 🥱🤣 commentary…..(and the fellowship) so pretending otherwise is just part of the model and human nature, I suppose.
EXPERT ANALYSIS and commentary…
It’s truly a gift. 💕
From the George Zimmerman case (when I first found the treehouse) to the Benghazi Brief, to the Ministry of Covid Compliance and countless other articles…it’s truly a gift.
May God bless and protect Sundance and all the treepers 🙏💕
May God bless and protect PDJT, America and may He help us MAGA-
Make America Godly Again
🙏🙏🙏
I sometimes pick up bits of truth from reading between the lines, Sundance has been at this kind of thing a long time so he’s developed a certain facility at it.
The only problem with this technique is that you are unsure of what you are getting, that’s why he lays it out for others to look at and interpret.
What’s revealing is that Haberman is writing about this at all.
Sundance also circles back.
That’s a virtue, btw.
What I find revealing is that Trump knows people know John Miller is him.
“Dude… don’t you have, like, ‘colony on mars’ stuff to take care of?”
The real problem here is Starmer showing his LBGTQ third eye to everybody including Musk and Trump.
My prediction: two black eyes for Starmer.
I agree with you . Witnessing this, some MAGA people have not really understood Trump and how he plays his cards. Given the argument on H1B, Trump observed from afar. Knowing he still needs Musk around, Trump played supportive of Musk and i know he will do what he wants to do policy-wise. But MAGA needs to keep Tech bros by its side by all means possible. It works by staying true and transforming tech bros into nationalists. It is already happening and in the end, the split will not happen as you predict. MAGA will win BIG and HUGE.
What I trust is human nature.
Human nature is that most people are out for number 1, themselves.
The tech gurus are out for themselves. If President Trump gains something from them, it will be a secondary issue for tech gurus.
Now, take that and multiply it by all of the other special interest groups who curry favor with Trump (or any President).
It’s all about acquiring money from the taxpayers.
I’ll hold onto to miracles from God, wait and see
sounds like diplomacy, hubs taught me that in business
Few posts of Sundance illustrate the uniqueness of Donald Trump as much as this one.
Since I am about Trump’s age, I can better understand now the importance of legacy to him than I could twenty years ago. When God takes him and the pundits have their say, they won’t talk much about Trump Tower or or his casinos or the New York skating rink he built under budget and ahead of schedule.
He will be remembered for the MAGA movement.
He has sacrificed so much for it and for us that it’s hard for me not to draw a parallel between his life and Jesus’. It makes me wince a little to even type that because Trump can be so crude and petty and in your face…and yet there is a Messiah like quality about him.
I think there is no amount of money or cajoling from anyone in his inner circle that can make him betray that movement, not Musk and his rockets nor Vance and his hillbilly eloquence…net even Ivanka. And that should be reassuring to the MAGA faithful.
It is to me.
“He has sacrificed so much for it and for us that it’s hard for me not to draw a parallel between his life and Jesus’. It makes me wince a little to even type that because Trump can be so crude and petty and in your face…and yet there is a Messiah like quality about him.”
That is because the Holy Spirit guides President Trump through this dangerous/evil journey and impacts him as he makes decisions. Praise be to God!
I was at the Trump rally the night before the election..it was electric. When Trump took the stage the whole arena went wild but there was a calm that set in..it’s been said that Trump sucks the air out of the room..it’s true..I knew that night that he was going to win..I could tell that he knew it too..he was funny, charming,articulate, yes, he was !!! I don’t know much about Musk…I think he looks at Trump as kind of a father figure..
After Trump’s close-call at Butler PA he has really focused more and more on legacy and leaving behind a strong MAGA movement to last long after he is out of the White House.
Hmmmmmm …………..
Spending efficiency ……
$2,000 per night …..
Efficiency …….
$2,000 per night ….
Hmmmmmm………………….
To Musk that is probably the same as us spending $10 a night. Bargain given the side benefits!
Exactly the point.
Someone who views $2,000 as $10 is in charge of efficiency?
It is extremely efficient. He needs no entourage to commute.
His savings are substantial, not to mention the wear and tear of commuting.
Remember…in Musk World that’s like spending $.05 cents a day would be to most of us
Don’t know. What are the accommodations like?
Same could be said for PDJT.
Distractor IMO.
The fact that he cannot be bribed with any amount of money is, in itself, refreshing.
14,000$ for week to hang out with Trump and maybe Melania, priceless.
I recall a few years ago there was a story going around about how em rented a small house valued at $50k near the spacex facility. He could afford any home anywhere but he was mostly “staying on friends couches.”
He was portrayed as a billionaire the common man can identify with (not that i do but that’s the impression i got). Sort of like how i saw Donnie J in 2014 but without the spirit. Elon looked like a scripted character to me from the start.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/elon-musk-house-stays-friends-net-worth/?origin=serp_auto
He sometimes slept on the floor at work.
He really doesn’t appear to care all that much about the trappings of wealth. Look how he dresses.
On the other hand, since it’s not clear how the bill is being paid, maybe the efficiency billionaire is a moocher.
Starmer is after Trump about Musk’s comments about UK’s paki rape gangs.
No telling what Labor’s connection to Russia, Russia, Russia is.
Since Uk Labor was instrumental in ruining South Africa, Musk probably has a hard earned opinion about Labor inspired violence and chaos.
Trump should tell Starmer he can send the Trident missiles back if he wants to replace them with French candlesticks…
Hahaha 🤣
Yes, agree. Thank you for the insight. Tech Bros are arrogant beyond belief. Their BIG EGOS are going to get a lesson in humility.
BTW…How many bags of Cheetos did you guys eat? 🤣😂🤣
Always MAGA 👊👊🇺🇸🇺🇸❤️❤️🙏🏻🙏🏻
JMO.
The bloom is off the globalist, nouveau riche trying out for the MAGA team lineup.
They aren’t Constitutional Republic based with its Constitution and all that that entails.
Like the concept of “we the people” in charge”, well, that certainly isn’t a globalist’s idea.
“We the people” own the club house, all the player’s contracts, we buy the uniforms and make the rules of the game.
Coach President Trump penciled the newbie MAGAs (Elon/Vik/Sacks) in on the team’s lineup and President Trump can just as easy erase their names from the lineup.
“Let’s go Brandon and the globalists and all the damn democrats, up and down the ticket!”
I keep asking: who is “We” in the sense of the overall political forces in play? The answer conditions expectations. Adds a little insight into how this “game” is played. Fundamentally, it addresses the assumptions underlying the overall strategy.
All Americans?
80%? 70%? 51%? Decided by economic class only?
Epstein list.
Diddy list.
Mar a Lago list? (Insurance -lol.)
Refer to pics of Meloni and Musk lost in each other’s eyes.
Hmm! I remember taking some heat about this just a few days ago about calling out Don Jr. I was actually told by some on here the Tech Bros were the ones who got PDJT elected. Below are Sundance’s words, not mine. I was just referring back to them the other day.
“Additionally, just as Donald Trump Jr playing the role of Fredo was used by the Russia collusion engineers to create a narrative by bringing Natalia Veselnitskya into Trump Tower in 2016, so too was Don Trump Jr used by the Tech Bros who have alternative interests with Vance.”
Hmmmm. The Theme in Godfather II was that Fredo betrayed his family – knowingly. In the end, he received a bullet to the head for doing so.
Is that the claim here vis Junior?
Perhaps the accelerated timeline may serve to compel Vance to show his real colors sooner rather than later. He’ll still have to win primaries. If he shows himself too close to tech at the expense of MAGA, it can open up the opportunity for a challenger more attuned to MAGA interests. But it’s likely the tech titans will simply bide their time so as not to (publicly) press too hard.
Another fantastic article. I appreciate you
I’m going to sit back, be at peace, and enjoy the show. I’m going to let Trump be Trump.
Yeah, Trump is handling Musk about right. Let him frolic around and create distraction. Pick out what’s useful. If the frolicking gets crazy, admonish him privately, and have your underling publicly lay out guidelines for all, including you know who.
And keep Vance locked in a closet. He’ll become a useful hostage, at some point.
So far so good.
ELON MUSK – liar, fraud and government welfare queen.
HE. IS. NOT. MAGA
Make America great again, with foreigners from India.
Standing by with popcorn!
Musk provides Trump with an outsized influence on the NATO participants which will allow Trump to eliminate all the noise they otherwise would create during his term. That is, until the fight over digital ID’s breaks into the open.
Sorry, I’m slow… Who or what is DN (dinner with DN)?
Guess: Devin Nunes
What is different this time is We know their game. They still can throw wrenches in the gears and muck stuff up. We still know their game.
Romans 8:31 NKJV
“If God is for us, who can be against us?”
Thanks Sundance for the hard work! You have taken this to the next level and exposed even deeper who they are.
“Know your enemy and know yourself, and you will not be in danger in a hundred battles”. Sun Tzu
“They really do think they are the masters of the new Trump universe. They aren’t…..”
I worked in/around various areas of leading edge technology for years. There are many brilliant folks out there that think technology is the answer to all things that challenge and trouble us. When you make it your god, things go wrong. Man without character, without conscience, and most important, without God, is a dangerous creature.
I watched a recovering alcoholic’s video last week. The man is an accomplished comedian. His declaration is so true.
” There’s no smaller package in the world than a man who’s wrapped up in himself.”
Let’s not rely on “Hopeium.” But pray these billionaire technocrats have some character and a sense of right and wrong, or at least acquire it. .
The most important part of this is for MAGA to awaken to the reality of JD Vance 2028 and his alignment with tech.
That being said we need to put pressure pressure pressure on President Trump to deport ALL illegals posthaste.
I will not vote for JD Vance in 2028 unless this has been taken care of.
“However, there was always going to be a moment when those paths diverged. We are witnessing that split now in real time.”
Sundance, when did you become anti-Musk? Are you part of the effort to divide the Trump administration?
‘Where are you? We miss you and x’ tells me he’s not tire of Elon yet.
Maybe when the split does come, we can pull the American workers out from under the bus, but I doubt it.
That message led me to believe that Trump has a paternal relationship with Musk. Despite Musk’s brilliance, Trump must see that he could use mentoring from someone who knows how to relate to fellow humans. Musk lives in his own head…not in the same world we all live in.
I hope you are right. I fear, as smart as Trump is, he is in over his head with Musk.
After Trump probably faced every form of con artist in his business, property and development dealings in New Yawk AND around the world, yeah, ahhh, no. I doubt it.
He does have blind spots -covid 19/operation warpspeed being one.
My biggest take away is Don Jr.. He thinks he brought all these Tec Bros in while in reality he was their Trojan Horse.
I wonder if President Trump is using Elon Musk as his foil.
Better than using a pseudonym to get his message out to the press.
Elon is really rattling quite a few cages, and possibly will achieve some good results.
All conjecture with the help of looking at the past but just like the photo showing Vance and Musk Towering over Trump who is 6’4” Musk is 5’8” Vance is 5’8” as well. Funny thing all the internet posts seem to think they are both 6’2” even then they are 2” shorter. Nobody knows what is said and done behind the scenes. Trump will help America but the rich will get richer by far ahead of the American workers. God Bless.
Vance is much taller than he’s been made out to be. Google for some reason claimed he was 5’7″.
Elom is probably over 6 feet and not the 5’10 or 11 some sources claimed.
Would you say, Sundance, that JD Vance would have MAGA support in a 2028 primary?
A long time to go, I know, and a lot can/will change. Still, it’s a good thought experiment.
A Word from the Lord/Amanda Grace 11/27/2024 (excerpt) Ark of Grace Ministries/Ministry Blog
“And says the Spirit of the Lord this day, what is occurring with the transition is causing confusion within the factions and camps within the incoming administration. The Ringmastering must cease says the Lord this is not a show says the Lord, this is not pomp and circumstance says the Lord. Those with brilliant minds have been turned into a side show and I the Lord shall park that showboat for you shall find yourself being surrounded by a circus of disorder and it will delay what I the Lord intend to do in your nation.”
“There will be fractures I the Lord shall allow in the transition and the first 3 months in office I the Lord shall allow to sift and remove who was appointed by man however does not have the anointing or favor to be in the position.”
Someone on a comment thread a few days ago used the Japanese word, chunibyo (roughly equivalent to “8th grader”) when describing Musk. It brought a smile to my face, and immediately reminded me of this wonderful line spoken by Edward G. Robinson, to the character played by Steve McQueen in The Cincinnatti Kid.
[paraphrasingh] Oh you’re good, Kid. Really good. But let’s face it. As long as I’m alive, the best you’ll ever be is number 2.
It’s my view that nobody in that band of hopefuls will ever even come close to no. 2.
“The speed and intensity of their timeline should put context upon how much they think of themselves.”
Indeed.
Gaining a seat at the Trump Presidency Table has only inflated their egos.
Musk has shown (and overplayed) his hand more than once, but as it all plays out, it will be interesting to watch all of their reactions.
I have not listened to an All In video before. It’s interesting to hear how these tech guys’ think. My whole purpose in listening. But for all their analyzing and predictions, including the Gemini deep research AI, the final topic regarding extraterrestrial technology and presence of life elsewhere threw a monkey wrench into the entire purpose of their show. From my view, once ET is exposed, and it will be, all of humanity will be changed forever and our purpose for existence will finally be understood. Which will undoubtedly alter forever our concepts of reality and shows like All In will no longer be of interest. Technology has a greater purpose other than making investors rich. Or controlling humanity. Our quantum leap to the stars is the destiny unfolding and Trump Knows more than he currently admits.
Musk is a con-man, Vivek Ramaswamy too but Musk more so. However these two forgot where
Trump’s heart is, with America and its people. In addition to that they forgot that Trump is a
sly, old fox that had dealt with the toughest of tough. New York Real Estate and New York City
and state politicians. An invaluable experience. I was more suspicious of Ramaswamy at first
but Musk’s con-ability tripped him and he underestimated Trump. Not good.
Ramaswamy has an unforgivable demeaning attitude towards Americans and that is probably
why his future in politics has been brought to a halt.
Just slightly funny,😉
I truly hope Sundance’s prediction that JD Vance will eventually side with the personal interests of the Tech Bros instead of MAGA, I was encouraged when, in the heat of the H1B debate in December triggered by Ramaswamy and Musk, Vance made this comment on X:
“Making it affordable for a hardworking young person to afford a family is the core of “America First.” Too many have bought the lie that the path to prosperity is to flood the nation with cheap labor. In the next administration, we’ll fight for American workers.”
Now, I’m old enough to know not to trust just about any politician, but especially as an Ohioan I hope JD doesn’t disappoint us.
Dear Melania,
If you’re reading this: Please get Sundance a gig as a Senior Advisor to #47.
Thank you! 😉
Jr. is an idiot.
“It’s probably better to have him inside the tent pissing out, than outside the tent pissing in.”
— Lyndon B. Johnson. On FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover, as quoted in The New York Times (31 October 1971).
So far Trump wants Musk inside the tent.