As the kids like to say with a wink and a nod, “if you know, you know.”
In the first White House briefing since the Hunter Biden Pardon, White House Spokesperson Karine Jean-Pierre worked her way through a tangled mess of justifications for why Joe Biden changed his mind and gave a pardon to his son, Hunter. However, within the remarks she relied heavily on a name that apparently has leaned-in to the issue of Preemptive Pardons by the outgoing administration. WATCH (prompted):
It is transparently obvious why Jim Clyburn would be seeking a preemptive pardon from Joe Biden. Clyburn is singularly the most exposed political figure if anyone starts looking at how the election system ballot operation was used in 2020, 2022 and 2024. Clyburn knows his risk exposure.
At the end of all the ballot and election fraud, you find one operation above all others. Watch what happens.
Mr DNC Fixer – 2020
Preemptive guilt is what I read in this list of new speculative pardons.
Yep, they truly believe Trump is about to do to them legitimately what they’ve been doing illegitimately.
Fear can work for good then.
Merry Christmas!!
Sundance, do you think that Clyburn was behind the 2020 Georgia steal?
I’m not Sundance, but if you’ll allow me, I’ll pose a response all the same.
Is the pope catholic?
Not only GA, but WI and MI also, at least.
Yep all he needed was
Atlanta=Fulton County, GA
Milwaukee=Brown County, WI
Detroit=Wayne county, MI
Then add LasVega=Clark County, NV as cushion
Milwaukee is in Milwaukee County, WI
and half a billion zuck bucks
Philadelphia for sure!
Pittsburgh too. (Allegheny County). Vote counters are chosen through CLYBURN’s AME Baptist church connections, has been going on for decades.
I thought the Pope is socialist.
Swing states.
It’s not about states. It’s about the half dozen or so large urban black cities and counties where Democrats have monopoly control over ballots. Philly/Delco, Atlanta/FultonCo, Detroit/WayneCo, etc.
Absolutely, James Clyburn ran that operation.
Because the GOP wing of the Uniparty was willfully blind (doing their assigned job) regarding what many of us grassroots folks could easily see, that made it fairly easy for Team Leftist to steal 2020 election.
And the GOP congressional “leadership” is no better today than it was then. Begone! To all of them.
One useless wanker….and seems like South Carolina has more than it’s share of elected nitwits
Philadelphia is a city and a county.
I just don’t get how you can hand out a pardon for an uncharged unnamed crime. Is that even remotely legal?
They can pardon away all the Federal crimes that they wish using Biden,
it does not apply to State crimes. Would need a governor to pardon from every applicable State.
I don’t think so.
Ford did so with Nixon and he was never charged. But that does not mean he could not have been charged. That hasn’t been adjudicated.
I say charge away anyways. Find a good circuit and charge away. Let them lawyer up and slowly fight their parallel independent ways up the appeals ladder. Who knows,maybe you can’t hand out pre decided immunity agreements.
In any case, any false statements during the investigation/trial would still be open to prosecution.
This is what Congress should do to Fauci, in the event of a pre-emptive pardon. Call him back to testify under oath whether he funded gain of function research on coronaviruses or not.
If he lies and says no, cite him for perjury and drop the hammer. Biden’s pardon will not apply to future crimes.
If he says yes, then he is humiliated and convicted in the court of public opinion.
Do the same to Francis Collins.
It would be better for Congress to do this so Trump can be attending to peace in the Middle East and Ukraine, etc. “Fauci? I am so disappointed. He was the best!” And move on.
Agreed. This plus the pardons would have the effect of a truth and reconciliation commission, which I and others think would be sufficient: less than we’d like, but far more than we’re otherwise likely to get.
-Admit to all your crimes (or go to jail for however many counts of perjury).
-Lose most of your political power, since you got caught.
-Contribute to making government trustworthy again by removing yourself and your crooked cronies therefrom, and by making the scams you used to extract wealth and abuse power more visible and thus more easily blocked.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pardon_of_Richard_Nixon#:~:text=The%20pardon%20of%20Richard%20Nixon,against%20the%20United%20States%20as
After Ford left the White House in 1977, he privately justified his pardon of Nixon by carrying in his wallet a portion of the text of Burdick v. United States, a 1915 U.S. Supreme Court decision which states that a pardon carries an imputation of guilt and that acceptance carries a confession of guilt.
Unless they are Democrats. I do not trust Bondi at all.
With a stroke of the pen, Karma would be a
Only one I know of is Jesus forgiving all our sins even before we committed them.
Jesus forgives the sins of a repentant sinner. Major part of the equation.
We are born condemned already — Original Sin touches us all.
We are born forgiven already; we make it our own when we BELIEVE this truth; and this truth is worked in our hearts by the Holy Spirit when we hear or read the Word. The Free Gift so often cited in Ephesians, for example: Jesus took our sin and gave us His righteousness; He gave it freely “While we were yet sinners,” Romans 5:8; Free is more free than we imagine. And yes, NanaB, forgiving us even before we commit them. Because he loves us with an Everlasting Love.
So of course, Jesus forgives repentant sinners, and He promises never to leave nor forsake us.
There’s a lot of “mushy” teaching in our churches, leading many believers to look at their navels to see if they’ve been good enough, when they should at all times keep their eyes focused on Jesus.
It’s all God’s doing from first to last that He calls us to Himself and Keeps us safe in His loving arms.
True. Jesus loves us all but repentence & grace make us His children. Big difference.
Doubtful, but it will be tested in court for sure. These willy-nilly pardons make a fool of law and order. Common sense comes to mind. This shall be tested. Wounds detest salt rubbed on it.
The rational view would dictate, that you can only be pardoned for crimes you have been charged with, or convicted of.
The idea that it is a stay out of jail card, to absolve you of anything, known and unknown, that you may have done(and never even investigated for) in the preceding years, is beyond ridiculous.
An example.
If after a pardon, it becomes known that the pardoned person is actually an active serial child rapist/killer.
Would he have ever received a pardon in the first place?
you mean like hunter, and those clearly kids he was raping?
Basically…YES! The power of the President of the United States to pardon is ABSOLUTE and a core power given to the President by the Constitution! Even uncharged crimes.
Does that apply for treason?
It shouldn’t because that would mean the President condones treason — which might just be treason itself!
No , and treason also has no statute of limitations . Arguments to the contrary are an admission of treason in itself.
As mentioned by MsDollie above ; acceptance of a pardon carries the admission of guilt.
I think some of these might wind up at SCOTUS.
Using the crazy ass Biden Regime logic, and this is not hyperbole, he could write a pardon containing a list of 15,000 leading Democrats pardoning them for any and all Federal crimes dating back xyz years (whatever the statute of limitations is), any sedition or treason, etc.
It would be absolute madness. Not only do I think SCOTUS would stop that, I think we would rapidly see Constitutional Amendments to prevent any future attempts.
““Pardons,” for example, encompass amnesties and can be accorded people whose identities the president does not know and may be unable to determine. The first such pardon was issued in 1795 by George Washington to people who participated in the Pennsylvania Whiskey Rebellion, with Jimmy Carter’s pardon of Vietnam-era draft evaders being a more recent example. Pardons may also be conditioned on a person accepting certain restrictions on future behavior, including submitting to punishments not otherwise provided by law. Pardons need not follow convictions but can be issued before or during a criminal prosecution. The rationale for so-called “pre-emptive” pardons is that there is no point in requiring a person to live in fear of conviction or to go through a trial if the offense of which he is or might be accused would ultimately be pardoned. Pre-emptive pardons do, not, however apply to offenses not yet committed. The president can tell a thief not to worry about being convicted for the crime he has committed yesterday because he has pardoned him. But a pardon today cannot forgive a crime the thief commits tomorrow.”
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/presidential-pardons-settled-law-unsettled-issues-and-a-downside-for-trump/g=
I don’t believe Nixon had been indicted when Ford pardoned him …
Pardon of Richard Nixon – Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pardon_of_Richard_Nixon#:~:text=The%20pardon%20of%20Richard%20Nixon,against%20the%20United%20States%20as
Who is gonna stop them?
PDJT is busy trying to prevent WWIII.
Which may be one reason Team Leftist is starting WWIII. Cover for their crimes.
It is not. That would be called providing immunity from crimes, which power the constitution does not provide to a president.
It appears to be legal. There was a supreme court case in 1866 that found the pardon power in plenary.
No legislature can limit it, not court question it.
I am not a lawyer but a definition of “pardon”= a government decision to allow a person to be relieved of some or all of the legal consequences resulting from a criminal conviction…bill
If it happens then make him testify for days about the crimes he committed—the process is the punishment
With a pardon, he may not be prosecuted, correct? Does the pardon in any way prevent a thorough investigation of all his illicit activities? If not, then the process here should be exposure. Sunlight, being the best disinfectant, should be used to illuminate ALL of his activities, and of those around him. Let the people see just what these democrat operatives have been up to. If completely exposed there will l be no need to send him to prison. He will be seeking one out to provide shelter from the angry mobs.
They say that the three most important words in Real Estate are: location, location, location.
Let’s make the three most important words in today’s Politics: exposure, exposure, exposure.
He must answer truthfully as he cannot incriminate himself. If he does not, then that’s contempt of court.
Perjury
He would be a witness against those that helped him. No 5th allowed. Grand jury testimony under oath.
I despise fauci.
He could still try to plead the 5th, if there are some non-federal crimes that he might self-incriminate by answering. He could also claim to have trouble remembering.
I think any resistance would be in violation of accepting the pardon thereby rendering said pardon void .
Rather than testifying truthfully, I expect all of those pardoned would be simultaneously smitten with amnesia virus. “So very sorry but I’m really drawing a blank on your question.”
I wonder how that would affect going after illegally obtained funds ; besides death / imprisonment the most effective lesson learned must be that any financial gains are forfeit to the taxpayers.
Days? Hell no! Months.
if he’s pardoned he’ll refuse……since he’s pardoned.
There should be no pardon possible for treason.
It is written{under the law} that there is an unpardonable sin…
Trust God. Fear not.
‘Pre-emptive pardon’ is a contradiction in terms. A ‘pardon’ legally requires a charge, or better a conviction. ‘Pre-emptive’ could mean anything: murder? It is clearly extra-legal, and thus unconstitutional, since it destroys the meaning of the Pardon clause.
Who will challenge it in the Supreme Court?
Dude, the Left rejected logic along with truth.
Get over this rationality kick, already.
Think about the blanket pardons done by Jimmy Carter for Vietnam era draft dodgers.
The media are not there yet, but they will be. Keep watching….. I know they are going there soon.
We could talk all day about the differences in being in a kind of war never before fought, by mostly very young people in a completely foreign landscape. As opposed to these reptilian geriatrics who have known better for decades, and still don’t care.
And the sad irony is those kids went to fight for these grifting buffoons who should be serving out the end of their lives in prison.
Biden actually entered politics during Vietnam. He received 5 draft deferments to attend school. How sick is that.
In the end, it won’t matter. Biden will get his pardons. But contingent upon that should be a full disclosure of the pardonees crimes and forfeiture of any ill-gotten gain, private government, bonuses, retirement, stock, et al. It’s a dream, just a dream.
They can still be sued in civil court and a presidential pardon applies only to federal offenses, so it would leave open the possibility that anyone pardoned could still face charges in state court. In 2019, in Gamble v. United States, the Supreme Court upheld the “dual-sovereignty” doctrine, which allows a state to prosecute a defendant under state law after the federal government has prosecuted him for the same conduct under federal law without violating the Constitution’s ban on double jeopardy. (Some states, like New York, also have their own double jeopardy laws. A New York court threw out state mortgage fraud charges against Manafort, pointing to his federal conviction on similar charges.)
I’m not a fan of double jeopardy, which Gamble kinda sounds like. If used, it should be sparingly and for different charges if possible.
I’m all for civil suits, tho. Take that which they crave most, and stole from us most, along with our freedom.
Biden and others will pay in the afterlife.
That ain’t soon enough .
But it’s long enough
Yes,sweetie 😌
Indeed, draft dodging is a specific crime.
Also, an obvious one. 🤔
In which case, empanel half a dozen grand juries to investigate all the crimes, then prosecute people for perjury and obstruction.
He can’t pardon them for the lies they will have no choice but to tell later.
I didn’t know Carter did that. 🤬
I actually supported that and I was in the USAF. You would have found many of us young military people were anti-vietnan, NOT anti-US.
I missed the war by a few years, but Carter was in office when I went in. Then he completely lost military support when he fiddled over the Iranian hostages. I voted for PReagan, my first vote!
My father, a very proper military man, was against the war, tho he’d never admit that outside our family. He would not talk about his experiences there, except one. I never asked again.
Again, offering immunity and providing a pardon are two different things. The constitution only provides the president the right to provide to the latter.
If a bill of attainder or bill of pains and punishments is forbidden by the Constitution, isnt the converse also forbidden. That would be logical.
I had forgotten about Carter. But as WSB says below, “draft dodging is a specific crime.” Biden appears to have pardoned Hunter for any crime whatever he may have committed in the past ten years. I think this violates the meaning and spirit of the Constitutional provision of Presidential authority.
Yes, and therein lies the difference, at least for me.
Pre-emptive pardons cover any past crimes that have not yet been charged (Ford’s pardoning of Nixon), but they cannot be prospective, i.e., pardon into the future.
The pardon only goes up to the day on which the pardon was issued.
There must be limits.
You can’t yell fire in a crowded theater. Similarly you can’t commit crimes to frame your political opposition to prevent them from being elected (yell fire) and then have your crimes pardoned by the victor who profited from your crimes.
Immunity, immunity, immunity. The constitution does not give the president the right to provide immunity.
Which brings into the discussion that since Biden “won” his victory via crimes committed by those he is pardoning, then he wasn’t really the President from Jan. 20, 2021 to Jan. 20, 2025. So, can he pardon anyone legally?
“Oh what tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive.” Walter Scott
Actually, you can yell “Fire!” in a crowded theater. The problem is what could happen/the consequences after that. Check the decision in Schwenk vs. the United States, Oliver Wendell Holmes’ opinion is misread by many.
It shall be challenged. Once and for all these pardons and those given in the future must have lawful definitions and parameters.
The Supreme Court in Burdick v. United States, ruled that a pardon becomes effective only if it is accepted….. a pardon “carries an imputation of guilt; acceptance a confession of it.” So by this ruling whoever FJB tries to pardon for a future crime must admit to the crime for the pardon to be valid. Admitting to the crime in Federal courts and receiving does not prevent state criminal charges or civil lawsuits to be filed against the individual.
And in the case Ex parte Garland the court recognized that pardoned conduct can be considered in some subsequent proceedings, such as to enhance a defendant’s sentence in a subsequent state-court proceeding. The court also made it clear that with the exception of impeachment the president’s power to grant pardons is unlimited. In addition, the court ruled that the president can issue a pardon at any point after a crime is committed and before, during or after criminal proceedings have taken place. The president cannot, however, pardon someone for future crimes. A pardon covers both the offender’s conviction for the crime and the sentence for that crime.
But the crime has to be identified and defined. Without such specification, the word ‘pardon’ is meaningless.
Abject fear of potential exposure, global embarrassment, and significant if not total destruction of the entire Democrap / Uniparty corrupt and fraudulent schemes and mechanisms that have bilked trillions of dollars from US taxpayers -is what I read into their expanding list of pardons…..
And the scumbag Repukes will go along in the name of “comity, national security, move on”, etc. Anything to keep the gravy train rolling.
Hell, they may be asking for pardons as well!
It’s like Joe Biden is manning the Pearly Gates or running a confessional.
The public aspect of it all is glorious.
I hope he does pardon a bunch of guilty parties and then those pardons are overturned and convicted when it is PROVEN that Joe never was a legitimately elected President.
Don’t let your fantasies control you. Not going to happen.
When we dream, we should dream big!
Control? no, sorry, not a problem. 😉
Confessional? More like a toll booth I bet.
LOL That’s also a good analogy.
Surely, the really bad confessors are reminded to make amends on the way out.
The actor(s) playing the late Joey Shitferbrainz collecting generational wealth via “Pardon Fees” [Lump-sum plus 10% of their gross income for the rest of the pardon candidates’ lives] on the way out for Jildo the matriarch and Trustee of the Offshore Biden Crime Family Office…
Nemo podest
Maybe biden is charging big bucks for handing out pardons. After all, his gravy train is ending!
Lol, I read that as Troll booth 😂. Fitting in it’s own way.
They are all going down. The D RAT Party is finished. China Joe will go down in history as the man who destroyed his own party.
China Joe will go down in history as the man who they surreptitiously placed at the helm just before the party self-immolated.
0’Bama destroyed the Democrat Party starting with the shady non-budget of 2008.
Many thought the Democrat Party was dead/finished/kaput after the House post office and bank scandals in the early 1990s, they did return.
Also we have Barack Obama warning about Trump rigging elections today. It’s just too much. This is why they lost and everyone hates them. Even the wealthy seem to finally understand that they’re despised. The old media will never admit it though and will keep on pretending.
“………..Barack Obama warning about Trump rigging elections today.”
Accuse your enemy of that which you, yourself, are guilty of.
Exactly that, resolute.
How very like the reptilian in him.
Even the word scum is too good to describe their ilk.
Projecting.
Heads need to Fing roll. I’m so over the talking heads!
GITMO get ready, make room.
FILTHY LIBERALS
WE WANT The Jug Eared Kenyan.
He was the main instigator for sure.
How do you pardon without a conviction first???
It is actually preemptive GUILT.
Yes, exactly. The “pardonee” should have to public acknowledge his hidden or concealed crime in order to be preemptively pardoned for it.
Indeed. List all the things that you are being pardoned for.
Hunter does not have enough paper in his printer to publish his complete list.
Like Ford pardoned Nixon. And Bush41 pardoned Casper Weingberger.
Think of pardons more like an absolution!
LOL
It is called providing immunity, a right the president does not have.
159yrs ago Republicans abolished slavery. Do you think kjp even knows about that…
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/12/this-day-history-republican-lawmakers-pass-13th-amendment/
Mmmm, No, it’s not in her notebook.
When do Barry and Big Mike get their pardon?
Hillary, Nancy, Schiff,
The whole Dem Party?
Damned party.
Each person in that room knows each of them are all liars; i can’t help but wonder what goes through each of their minds when one of their own is so obviously lying to them?
That POS CLYBUM needs to fry in hell.
He’s greasy. He will definitely fry when heated.
🍗
but, but, but he’s virtuous AME.
I don’t know…Biden’s a pretty petty man. I’m sure he’s (and Jill) fuming about being ousted…he may just leave some hanging out to dry. Just because.
Or, he could be selling pardon’s…his last chance to make some extra cash.
100% for the Big Guy.
More likely, yes.
He thinks he is protecting himself. He is mistaken.
Biden’s Dept of Future Crime.
Pardons cannot extend into the future. If Hunter cheated on his taxes again, he could be charged.
I don’t think blanket immunity is going to pass muster in SCOTUS as a pardon if a crime.. pardon and immunity don’t mean the same thing.
SCOTUS will not hear the case. Presidential power of pardon is clear and unlimited in the Constitution.
It is not a pardon. It is immunity, which right a president does not have.
Pardons for classes of persons (Confederate soldiers, Vietnam draft dodgers), pardon for the sake of national tranquility (Nixon), pardons for persons convicted of crime.
Now Biden wants to pardon persons who haven’t even been charged with a crime, and for extended expanses of time.
I suggest there should be some limitation, perhaps similar to the crime-fraud exception to attorney-client privilege.
If the offences pardoned are not particularized the result is a president that can raise an army of criminals to do his bidding with blanket immunity. A president can not run his own private army immune from the law.
There must be limits.
It’s called anarchy.
The real question is what (if anything) can republicans do about it now?? Lucy and the football come to mind. Time for bed. Blessings to all….
Night Silas.
Future AG: “Well I don’t know what crimes were pardoned in that blanket pardon. So I’m going to investigate and charge anyway and let the courts sort it out.”
Even if Clyburn and the other commies get their preemptive pardons, the Trump DOJ should still arrest them and toss their a$$es into the gulag. Hold them for years, without charges. Just like many of the J6ers.
I thin there’s a few jail cells that are about to become available.
There you go.
Fear is the driving force. They’ll libel to do anything. Dangerous times, my friend and it could get worse.
For them, libel being the operative term. It’s part of their code of conduct.
How might one pardon that which has not yet been charged? Fictions of imagination are not chageable or pardonable.
Nixon was pardoned and was never charged with any crime.
The house had drawn up crimes he committed and were about to file articles of impeachment and have the senate try him. Those charges could have been used in criminal court after his term was over. Not exactly charged but the public knew what he was being pardoned for. Hunter not so much.
clyburn is toast.
burnt toast………
Well, well, well…if anyone is looking for a reason why Congressman Clyburn would strongly recommend that Biden pardon Trump during his NewsNation interview yesterday, we just found it!
But, but, but, they dindu nuffin….
So true in many ways
Question, if Biden is Impeached, does it nullify his pardons?
If Biden is a fake president, are the pardons fake?
Has there ever been blanket pardons given by anybody else? Is that possible under American law? And, does the Constitution gives the President the ability to issue blanket pardons?
I do not recall the Constitution giving the right of pardons for President. So, where did it come from? I willing to guess that the King of England gave pardons so we did too. Has any monarch given blanket pardons and, if they did, then what for? It was probably a crime in the service of the country – like a captain of a privateer — and that should tell you about the crimes that Hunter did.
Art 2 section 2
Black Beard was pardoned by the governor of North Carolina. Some say the governor and the pirate were in cahoots.
He should be in jail.
Clyburn may get a pardon from Biden but all of the elections officials in Milwaukee, Madison, Detroit, Philadelphia and Atlanta that facilitated his election fraud in 2020 and 2022 could still be indicted and convicted by the DOJ.
In addition, Clyburn can still be charged in each jurisdiction with state fraud crimes. So, the FBI can conduct the criminal investigations of Clyburn and his associates and then the cases against Clyburn can be prosecuted by state prosecutors in Georgia and Wisconsin!
Nothing says completely innocent like needing a pardon 😂😂😂😂
I don’t see how a Government can legitimately function if blanket pardons without a crime being charged becomes a thing.
It basically says that any Administration can partake in any amount, and manner, of crookery and malfeasance it wants and just write itself a ‘get out of jail free’ card at the end of it all.
This makes a mockery of our system of Government.
Exactly right. There must be limits.
The democrats always push the envelope vis a vie the law.
That’s why scotus will hear the cases.
all the pardons will be reversed as the student loan debt was.
it will be retroactive.
I am not an expert, but I have read that once pardoned, if asked to testify, they must testify truthfully. It seems that Congress could start an investigation which would compel him to testify about the voter fraud, which could lead to new laws or prosecutions. It would put it all out in the public domain.
“mens rea” is a habit.
so is perjury.
when has a congressional referral for perjury every been prosecuted?
it’s a crapshoot and the recidivists are BIG Gamblers.
The minute Clyburn is pardoned, Senate Republicans should demand an immediate Ethics Committee investigation, and if Dems refuse, it should be done when Republicans control the Senate after Jan 20. He should be called on the carpet to explain why he needed a pardon. Evidence of his behind the scenes efforts to rig the previous elections in swing states should be brought before the committee and a swift committee action should result. The problem is that you need 2/3 of members to expel, so that isn’t going to happen. Censure is about all they can do to him.
It seems to me that Clyburn should be prosecuted in every state in which he was a part of money laundering, pay for play, mule operations, etc.
That could keep hime busy for awhile.
If one is in jail for a felony, expulsion may not be necessary .
Republicans aren’t interested trust me.
I think that the sheer scope of the election fraud/coup against Trump and the utter destruction that an installed Biden admin caused and cost to us and the world is unpardonable. When all the cause and effects of the fraudulent 2020 election are tallied the enormity of it will be completely unpardonable and most Americans would agree.
That also applies to covid and The Science ™️, Dr. Anthony Fauxchi.
How are they going to explain why Clyburn would need a pardon?
They don’t need to explain. You be rayciss….
“Racist” doesn’t have the cachet it once had.
Yes but “they” don’t know that. And for the record I purposefully wrote rayciss. I do know how to spell.
“I do know how to spell.”
I know, never doubted that for a second 🙂
I hope I speak for a lot of us ; I am tired of hearing the ” racist ” crutch . How about everybody is racist, problem solved . Move on to the real problems.
Give him his just deserts. Jail time without parol.
No, just the bland stuff they feed to J6ers.
Biden will be standing on the steps of the Capitol and issuing a mass pardon to a hundred thousand Democrats massed in the square like Pope Francis on the balcony of St Peter’s Basicilia blessing the faithful.
“I absolve you of all of your crimes charged and uncharged since 2014!”
And that’s why Barry O was out there yesterday saying it’s Repubs who cheat in elections……
Boy, those repubs are certainly crappy cheaters… They lost every house seat they previously held in OC CA this time around.
…unless they [RINO party scum] were cheating to insure their Dem comrades “won”…
What is the penalty for the crime of stealing the power of an American citizen’s vote? If we want to be a free people, this apparatus, the one built to steal our votes, has to be dismantled and whoever orchestrated it from top to bottom must pay the price for the crime committed.
Elections are a state by state issue
Prosecute Clyburn in all swing states he has a “church” in…
Clyburn is a f…ing racist.
What a tortured interpretation of EQUAL JUSTICE UNDER LAW is being made by this criminal White House!
Joe Biden’s blanket pardon of his son, Hunter, shields the younger Biden from all PAST criminal charges brought against him by the DOJ over the last eleven years…but the preemptive pardons Biden is considering for his cronies would shield them from all FUTURE prosecutions…prosecutions that may or may not be brought against them.
How is it legally or morally possible for anyone to be pardoned in advance, for any and all crimes for which they haven’t even been charged? And to what period of time do these preemptive pardons apply…years, decades, a lifetime?
What Joey Two Scoops is considering to do is confer immunity to these individuals which is a power that a President does not have.
Clyburn is sweating bullets, and the Human toilet brush is finally almost gone. Good times.
If Biden puts forth a list of people that he’s going to pardon, isn’t this also a list of people that he admits are guilty?
Yes, of course. But they will frame the pardons as necessary because the “fascist” Trump intends to weaponize the DOJ to go after political enemies. Obama just said that the Republicans were rigging elections and will use the justice system to attack political rivals, i.e., exactly what the Biden communists have been doing since January 2021. They always adhere to the Alinsky rules, and their media will do the same. Remember, it’s always Orange Man Bad, no matter the circumstance.
in my opinion that is correct.
” a pardon may only be granted after the commission of the eligible offense, 5 though the clemency may precede any institution of formal proceedings.” from Pardons Generally | Constitution Annotated | Congress.gov | Library of Congress
zen master, lol
Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. – John Adams
Biden is not a moral person
A quick reminder that a pardon does not protect anyone from a grand jury investigation. If you lie to a grand jury to cover up election fraud, you’ve only been pardoned for past crimes not the new crimes committed covering them up.
Just start hauling people in, put ‘em under oath, and sit back and enjoy them tearing each other apart. They will rat out their friends to save their own skins.
A pardon doesn’t stop a search warrant to seize your phones and laptops and papers that might be evidence in election fraud investigations involving other parties.
A pardon doesn’t save you from a grand jury subpoena.
We all need to stop pearl clutching over this. Let them do it! Our biggest problem isn’t pardons.
It’s Pam Bondi, the corrupt DOJ/FBI, and Senate Republicans blocking attempts to investigate what happened, and then covering it up.
Thanks for the info Hokkoda, good to know.
We should thank Biden for the service of setting them up so that they can be properly, well and truly knocked down.
Great idea, friend, the ‘pardon list’ being used as immediate justification for blanket search-and-seizure warrants for all of the ‘pardoned’ to investigate their co-conspirators/partners in crime who the pardons obviously don’t cover, as that famous 1915 SCOTUS decision that the notorious scrote Ford allegedly kept in his wallet next to the prophylactics and 5 dollar bills for the pole dancers, Burdick v. United States, in which the Court ruled that a pardon carried an “imputation of guilt” and accepting a pardon was “an admission of guilt.”…
Under oath won’t stop them.
They are life time recidivists, or they wouldn’t need pardons
No one is prosecuted for perjury, unless it alters history.
They are risk takers. It’s a personality trait.
Trump has too much on his plate to underwrite that time-waster.
Even if they were found guilty, they would get a pardon from another future potus.
It’s great to know that all her expert legal friends have declared no one should be prosecuted for tax evasion or lying on a federal form to buy a gun so go ahead everyone, stop paying taxes and buy guns using whatever lies you like, no one will prosecute you because precedent has been set./sarc