It has come to my attention that most of MAGA, specifically those who do not understand the history of Republicans in the Senate, support a return to Senatorial and Parliamentary norms, where 60 votes are needed in order to advance any legislative intent. [READ HERE] Stupid is, as stupid does.
Prior to the 2024 election, Democrat Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, promised to end the filibuster rule and change the Senate to a simple ‘majority rules’ body. However, in the aftermath of the 2024 election outcome, where Democrats are now in the minority, Chuck Schumer has a reversal of prior opinion and is requesting the Republican leadership to retain the filibuster rule – giving power to the Democrats who now hold minority position.
Into this mix of UniParty and DeceptiCon political constructs, the online MAGA community are now advocating for a return to old Senatorial rules where amendments can be offered to all bills proposed and the 60-vote threshold is retained for cloture, filibuster power and legislative passage.
Despite knowing Majority Leader Schumer was going to crush them, Senator Rick Scott, Senator John Cornyn and yes, now, Majority Leader John Thune, are taking the high road and promising to keep the power of the Democrat minority in place. A more apropos example of “Battered Conservative Syndrome” has never been so clear.
WASHINGTON DC – […] “The short version of that is: Please don’t do to us what we were going to do to you. Schumer is obviously concerned that Republicans might embrace a scheme to eliminate the filibuster and pass all sorts of consequential legislation with no Democratic input at all. That wouldn’t be bipartisan! Fortunately for Schumer, Republicans have been more principled than Democrats when it comes to the legislative filibuster, and to the filibuster in general. Republicans realize that even though they will have the majority for the next two years, they might be back in the minority at any time after that. So, Schumer will not get it good and hard the way he planned to give it to Republicans.” (more)
This is exactly how ‘republicanism’ infects the MAGA movement, ultimately and predictably positioning the future republican voters frustrated and shouting at trees. Democrats, together with Mitch McConnell and John Thune love this, because it retains their lucrative business model.
Let me start by reminding the MAGA victims, that’s YOU, of the position of Democrats:
Apparently, the high-minded influencers within the MAGA community have seemingly forgotten about this intent.
Next, let us move to the reality of what the GOP is planning to do, and remember Scott, Cornyn and Thune all agree on this.
The return of amendments to the Senate bills brings with it retention of the filibuster and ‘cloture’ 60-vote threshold.
Taking the first part first, those amendments have a name. During the Obamcare fiasco you might remember a few of them: “The cornhusker kickback” (Nelson), “The Louisiana Purchase” (Landrieu), the “Florida Gator Aide” (Nelson). These “amendments” are purchases of Senator’s votes with sweetheart closed-door deals, they are not enhancements to the bill, they are bribes for support.
Now the second part. Presume a 55/45 split. The Majority needs to purchase votes from the minority in order to reach 60. That’s where “amendments” offer the highest price. K-Street Lobbyists pay for minority senators to support the amendment. Lots of money is made.
Mitch McConnell and Harry Reid were not in opposition to each other on the business end of this process. Their personal wealth benefitted greatly.
The high-minded MAGA Republicans are advocating for returning to, and retention of, this process.
History: After Scott Brown became #41, Leader Harry Reid had to begin purchasing votes from Mitch McConnell. However, the American public were holding the GOP feet to the fire. Eventually Reid just said, “screw it” and dropped the vote threshold for final bill passage to a simple majority, 51.
The Senate retained the 51-vote passage, with the exception of “cloture votes” or votes to close debate, along with ‘filibuster breaking thresholds’ which still needed 60. Essentially, McConnell/Reid were not stupid, they did not want to give up the business model. So, 60 cloture votes and filibuster remained.
The Cloture Votes also provided the Deceptive Conservatives, DeceptiCons, the opportunity to vote yea on cloture, then vote against the bill. Senator Ted Cruz is the #1 Republican who uses cloture voting as a mask. Cruz often votes yea on cloture (supporting the bill) and nay on the bill itself (thereby denying he ever supported it). It’s a good cover, and they all use it.
Obviously, McConnell didn’t want to be the one to change the lucrative construct of Harry Reid, so he retained the non-amendment part and the 51-vote simple majority part. Then McConnell lost the Senate, again.
However, suddenly, the GOP are back in the majority and now Rick Scott (and presumably John Cornyn) wants to give the power back to the minority. McConnell’s protege’ John Thune learned well from the knee of the master.
Leader John Thune has no issue giving the GOP power in the Senate away, adding back the lucrative process of amendments, and returning the threshold to 60 votes for bill passage. However, he had to pretend it was some astronomical exhibition of magnanimity in order to gain maximum value from the illusion of doing what he always supported.
Thune says as leader I will return to regular order, amendments, voting thresholds and the pre-Harry Reid processes. Everyone cheers.
The republicans are now in the majority and have changed the structure to add amendments and give stronger power to the minority.
THE RESULT – President Trump’s agenda will be more difficult to pass (higher threshold and stronger opposition position), but somehow MAGA cheers for Senate Majority Leader John Thune (see thread).
Battered Conservative Syndrome.
Wash-Rinse-Repeat…. Then everyone will look oddly when the base of voters throws up their arms in frustration and the Senate flips back during Trump’s 2026 midterm election.
Why should a Republican Senate majority take their foot off the gas and allow the Democrats to retain the power of the minority. They hold no similar disposition when in power.
I say, crush them.
Advance the MAGA agenda. Crush the opposition and give Republicans in 2026 a reason to go out and make the prior election even more resounding.
Kiss my a– schmuck schumer….you wanted to end the filibuster and we will give you your wish. End the filibuster and let the cry baby schmuck cry and burn in hell….
If it was their money it wouldn’t bother me as much. The fact that Schumer is at the core of this abomination makes it more unpalatable …….I fall back to trust Jesus and PDJT .
I don’t want to be ruled by the hot passions of the mob when whipped to frensy by the zealots.
Supermajorities for passage of legislation, constitutional amendment, etc. protect all of us. The House doesn’t have a filibuster capability and look at all of the nonsense the Democratic majority was able to pass.
F**k Chuck Schumer and the democrats.
This is EXACTLY why we didn’t need another RINO Senate leader.
in a fair and just world, he and a lot of his “buddies” would be placed against the wall and shot.
or hanged on the mall works for me as well. then again, there are a lot of light posts in that area.
and them hanging from them is a dream I get from time to time.
BUT. before we do that. why don’t we dig into THEIR bank records and see just where all their money came from ?
taking their ill gotten gains might not balance the debit, but I think it just might make a nice size dent in it.
what do you think ?
When republicans investigate democrats in congress nuttin happens (rooster head ex.). When democrats investigate republicans or MaGA, someone (a republican or MAGA) is going to prison.
Business as usual? Why did MAGA candidates work so hard to win? Why did we once again allow our voting (flawed) system to cheat again?
Schumer and company have not been cowled in defeat, but start talk of compromise. Sickening!
Crush the money machine in the Senate and end this. No more stupidity from the girls side, either on nominees. When Dems are in charge, The President has a right to his nominees, but when TRUMP happens, let the sniveling backstabbing begin. SICK…OF…IT!
There are just too many pigs at the trough inside and outside of the government.
There is lots and lots of taxpayer money ripe for the taking.
That is the reason I don’t trust the Uni-Party at any level of government.
I spent my adult working life at the Government Accountability Office (GAO).
I started out working in the fraud area. I spent time up on Capital Hill doing work for both sides of the aisle.
My work took me to all levels of government, private contractors, corporations, Indian tribes, and universities.
I also worked directly with congressional staff and on one joint congressional committee.
I was no one important, just a mid-level auditor and fraud examiner.
The rot is deep, very very deep.
Make yourself known to Elon and Vivek! Stat!
0) No need for Republican leadership to discuss this prior to January 21, 2025.
1) No hope to avoid the Decepticons attempting to continue this collusion with the Democrats.
2) True reform in the Congress will only happen at the ballot box.
“… will only happen at the ballot box …”
and if that fails – again, as it always does – what box is left?
Ammo box.
Vance needs to take this article to Thune and group and say either put on the gloves or #1 the heat will be coming from constituents or their will be a lot of recess time encouraged by the President. Send all the clowns home for 3 months to rub elbows with the voters or work on the constitutional repeal of the 17 amendment with their state legislatures.
I cannot afford to make another payment-for-votes. Nor can anyone I know.
RINO cowards strike again…
The republican establishment are idiots.
not idiots, just spineless amoral pigs; smaller than the swine that is the DC dhimmicrat establishment, but all are pigs just the same
This is the perfect reason for the DOGE. Let Ramaswamy and Musk go after what the quid pro quo entails and then backtrack and go after those who benefit from this bribery. Name names and get those names out to the public to expose them all. Congressmen AND lobbyists.
We need to make a concerted effort to educate voters in the states that have RINO Senators. There are still far too many people who don’t understand the damage that those Senators do. We have made more progressing ridding the House of RINOs, but it’s easier to do it there because of the frequency of elections.
I remember clearly our VSGPDJT handed Schumer his ass on a plate most every other day in his last 4 years as president, I almost felt sorry for the little worm going home every day with his hat in his hand and his ass hurting. It was glorious. Hope to enjoy another 4 years of this delight…….
ALSO remember when drunk Nancy had 100s of people, many family members all loading into a government airplane with tons of booze and rich foods, to go on a European jaunt, President Trump said “Nope”, plane stays on the ground. THAT was glorious as well.
yes! CRUSH THEM.