It is not my intention to provide black pills. However, we discuss events through the prism of what exists, what we can see and track, rather than what we pretend might be in place. Thus, today CTH fires a signal flare drawing attention away from precinct voting polling places, and toward tabulation centers.
There is some alarming evidence beginning to surface pointing toward a shift in the USA election process, specifically the fundamentally changed process that now exists behind absentee balloting.
The events in California for the 2018 midterm election appeared to be the original BETA test of mass mail-in ballot collection. Every person in the state mailed a ballot for completion in the 2018 election cycle. The outcome was evident for two weeks after election day when ballots continuing to arrive changed the vote outcome.
The 2020 general election then saw, thanks to COVID-19, a nationwide rollout of the BETA test: balloting 2.0. Millions of households receiving ballots from state election officials, so the socially distant electorate did not need to assemble and vote on election day. The process created a widespread opportunity for fraud.
In the 2022 midterm election, this absentee balloting system was still in place; affirmed into a new structural process within each state. An awakening electorate pondered the absence of the predicted “red wave” and recognized there was a distinct difference between voters and ballots. In general, the republicans were still focused on voters, but the democrats were focused on ballot submission processes. 2022 was essentially the third iteration from the originating California BETA test: balloting 3.0.
After 2022, playing catchup, nationwide attention shifted away from votes and election day, and people started talking about the importance of ballot distribution, collection and submission. This has been the messaging system going into election day 2024. However, there are strong, evidence-based reasons to believe ‘Balloting 4.0’ is something else entirely. Election integrity officials could very well be focusing their efforts on polling and balloting processes that have moved far beyond where they were even just two short years ago.
In 2024’s Balloting 4.0, the “Tabulation Centers” are now far more important than Polling Precincts, yet we still see the majority of election integrity and validation effort, mostly by republicans, focusing on polling precincts. Let me explain what Balloting 4.0 actually looks like.
Those who created fraud within absentee ballots as a tool to change election outcomes, have dropped the pretense of “registered voters.” Registered, authorized and eligible voters are no longer an aspect of ballot fraud in this 2024 iteration. As an outcome, voter rolls no longer appear to be part of the equation, and the correct or incorrect status of voter rolls is a moot point.
There are very strong indications that Balloting 4.0, the fourth iteration of a fraudulent process to control election outcomes, has now moved well beyond the concern with registered voters and voting rolls. Balloting 4.0 is now about ballot submission REGARDLESS of registered status.
In order to receive a mail-in or absentee ballot from a state election office, in most cases the person making the request would need to be a registered voter. Some form of eligibility filter would be required (varies by state) to gain a ballot. Additionally, in many states’ ballots are sent out in mass mail format based on election rolls. This has been identified as an issue, because again the voter rolls are not up to date or accurate; ergo, multiple ballots sent out to invalid names and/or addresses. This problem still exists, but Balloting 4.0 has moved one step farther.
What happens when it is not the state or county sending the ballot or approving the request. If the state or county is doing it, voter rolls are still part of the equation. However, what happens if ballots are printed locally, distributed and completed with names addresses and customary identification material, and then returned to the county recorders’ office regardless of and irrespective of voter registration.
Balloting 4.0 appears to be a system where ballots can be generated outside govt, by any party in the private sector. What we would call, “localized ballot printing.”
In this instance, the distribution of the ballots can be made to people regardless of their registered voter status. In Balloting 4.0 the completion of the ballots has nothing to do with voter rolls or pre-filtered voter authenticity. Balloting 4.0 is simply the mass printing of paper ballots that can be scanned at tabulation centers just like any other ballot.
In the Balloting 4.0 process, the eligibility status of the person completing the ballot becomes irrelevant. A name is printed or written, address, identification particulars recorded on the ballot, and then the private-sector-printed ballot is then submitted en mass into a population of other ballots that come from state and county government systems.
Locally printed ballots can be mailed, put in drop boxes, dropped off at election offices, or dropped off by entities who “assist” in ballot submission, just like every other ballot.
If thousands of locally printed, perhaps fraudulent ballots, arrive at a recorders’ office what is to stop them from being bulk mixed into the population of ballots from registered voters. Yes, there are some formal filtration processes that are expected to be utilized to ensure all ballots received are from registered voters. However, if the receiving official or tabulation worker is motivated by ideology to participate (or willfully ignore) the potential issue, then all the fraudulent ballots just disburse into a population of authentic ballots.
While some very diligent election supervisors, workers and election officials take precautions to stop such localized (ie fraudulent and non-registered) ballot submissions, unfortunately those officials and workers do not work in/around urban voting centers like Atlanta, Austin, Philadelphia, Pittsburg, Milwaukee, Detroit etc. You can see the issue.
Pushing the issue and question up the chain as an outcome of boots on the ground research, I have yet to hear a response from any election official or career election integrity professional who has an answer for this problem. This concerns me because we are clearly seeing the tell-tale signs of localized ballot printing starting to surface.
We are seeing reports of multiple state, county and municipal tabulation centers who are having trouble scanning a significant percentage the population of the ballots they are receiving. Significant enough to change an election outcome. I would strongly urge readers to pay close attention to reports of some ballots “not scanning” correctly or having formatting issues when compared to the overall population of ballots.
BREAKING: In Nevada County, California, a large-scale issue with ballot printers has made it impossible for tabulators to count 77,000 ballots accurately
AGAIN. Why do we keep using these voting machines that malfunction at the slightest little “imperfection”?
I would like to… pic.twitter.com/eNLg0mTshb
— George (@BehizyTweets) October 29, 2024
This is NOT an issue that encompasses double scanning of ballots. This is an issue of the authenticity of the ballots themselves. The authenticity of the ballot stems from the authorized authenticity of the voter, and voter identification is protected by a myriad of laws, rules and regulations making that part of the system check almost impossible after the ballot is scanned, accepted and/or adjudicated.
I suspect “Balloting iteration 4.0,” the system in place for 2024, is no longer a ballot issue connected to registered voters and voter rolls. I suspect ballot fraud in 2024 is now directly and simply the raw generation of physical ballots that have no connection whatsoever to registration processes.
Remember, because the way we value voting rights as a fundamental right for Americans, in every case of ballot review the election system comes from a predisposition that every arriving ballot is valid and authentic. Issues of doubt are weighted heavily in favor of the submission. It is rare to have a voting ballot disqualified by a system designed to protect voting ballots. Those who intentionally support fraud, count on this predisposition of validity [See Marc Elias].
If this perspective is accurate, and there’s no reason to think it is not, then election integrity focus on polling places is wasted energy. The real venues that should be getting the majority of attention are ballot tabulation centers. That is where incoming ballots need to be authenticated before they enter any scanning system to record the vote.
Once the ballot is scanned and tabulated, it’s over. There will never be a process to reverse or remove a legally recorded vote, even if that ballot is fraudulent.



“Ink Overspray” Issue Prompts Change to Ballot Processing Procedure, Shasta Elections Official Announces
https://shastascout.org/shasta-countys-ballot-processing-procedure-has-been-adjusted-in-response-to-ink-overspray-on-ballots-elections-official-announces/
Creating a reason to adjudicate the ballots and make the ballots count equal what they want it to be. The ballots involved are made by Runbeck the same company that created all the fraudulent ballots in AZ in 2020.
Runbeck again?
Fink Overspray!
#WeSeeYou
What a perfect name for such a rat
Like you and many I began to read SD’s article. Only one came to mind. Runbeck.
How many states did they print for? 12/15 or something?! Don’t know enough about their changes in ownership/management that recently occurred but it caught my eye recently.
Only know what they facilitated in PHX in ’20 and ’22. I think one of the Supervisors on the MCBOS ( owned “Blue Bell Ice Cream?”? )I think he was family with the two brothers that ran it. Mea Culpa on the missing “names”.
But yeah! Ballots insinuated supposedly “legally” but as a huge source of the fraud, I’d have to imagine.
Runbeck is also responsible for the disastrous results of the 2022 elections in AZ which saw Kari Lake, that was up by double digits in polling lose the race, that applies to the down ballots as well. Kari Lake was brave in getting as far as she did with the courts. It’s just too bad the judge was mostly likely bought and paid for by cartels and dismissed the massive amounts of evidence of fraud.
Because of Runbeck there was No Chain of Custody for 300,000 ballots!!
This example is also why canvassing after the race is so important. Thousands of workers asked Tens of Thousands of Actual Voters who they voted for. According to their findings, Kari Lake should have won that race by 5+%.
I despise these people more every day. We are certainly in a Spiritual Battle of Good V. evil in which Dem operatives know for a fact they cannot win if they don’t lie, cheat, AND steal.
Georgia also, particularly with the Senate runoff in 2020.
Great. Are the various Republican election integrity groups aware of this?
Of course they are. Unfortunately, many are part of the problem.
The anti MAGA establishment Republicans will ignore it.
They don’t want Trump either.
Many were before.
All are now.
Wolverines!
Great job and TY!
Are you thinking “Too Big To Rig” will fail, and election theft 2024 will win it for the Communists?
I would hope not, so what is to be done?
Saying their names and calling out each operation and location involved.
It is soon to be time to STAND.
Interesting…”there are new Owners of Runbeck”…you don’t say!! I wonder who they are?!
“Lincoln Shields, a subsidiary of Black Mountain Investment Company, acquired a majority stake in Runbeck Election Services on August 18, 2023. The key component of the transaction sees Runbeck Election Services receiving growth capital to expand its services and offerings. Runbeck Election Services company leadership will remain the same.” – –
Company “leadership” will remain the same
So who owns Black Mountain Investment Company?
There some ex military on the board…. https://www.blackmtnco.com/about-us/#executive-team
Did George Soros buy them too along with the 200 plus radio stations?
🙏🏻
Brilliant analysis Sundance. Unfortunately dampened my day. I continue to pray!
It didn’t dampen mine – just infused me with more Cold Anger.
Oh, I forgot to thank you for all you do!! 🇺🇸💪🏻🙏🏻
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This is what happened in Wisconsin in 2020 – there was a 100% voter participation rate of residents of nursing homes! This is not only utterly illogical but statistically impossible, and yet, it happened and no one said or did anything to stop it of correct it, in the four years since.
We know that most areas have a participation rate that hovers between 30-50% of registered voters in any given election but if there is no longer any mechanism to verify WHICH 30-50% of REGISTERED voters returned their ballots, then how can we dispute when the number of retuned ballots increases to 70-90% of REGISTERED voters?
It appears that there are no longer any checks or balances – there are only ballots and once they are removed from their envelope and dropped into the mix, there is no way to know which ballots are real and which ones are not? Am I understanding your post correctly, Sundance? And if so, is the country already gone?
Checks and balances reek of white privilege.
lol I was going to say the same thing. “There you go, thinking like a white person again.”
In my opinion, they way overplayed their hand by giving FJB 81,000,000 ballots with many areas having a 90-110% voter turnout. They can’t replicate that again without exposing their fraud.
Just like they wanted us to believe there was a 92.5% voter turnout in 2020, and yet the state with the highest voter turnout was MN with 80%.
According to Statista
As of December 7, 2020, 66.7 percent of the eligible voting population in the United States voted in the 2020 presidential election. As of this date, voter turnout was highest in Minnesota, at 80 percent.
Except, Reuter reported:
The U.S. Census Bureau estimated there were 168,300,000 registered voters at the time of the election. Between President Trump and FJB there were 155.4 Million ballots = 92.5%.
In 2020 there were several districts that flipped House seats to Republican and yet they told President Trump lost in those districts. Most people would not have voted for FJB and then voted for a Republican Representative. The Grands Rapids, MI area is but one such place where this happened.
Republicans Flipped House Seats
15 flipped in 2020 – 8 in Blue States
8 flipped incumbents – 4 in blue states
7 flipped open seats – 5 in blue states
Thank you for providing those numbers! They are absolutely fascinating and I had not seen them with that specificity before.
I do think they are going to have a significant problem if Donald Trump is able to generate enough votes to win the popular or at least come much closer than he did in 2016 or 2020.
That is why I am encouraging all of my family and friends to get their vote in, even though we are in hard blue Washington. . Even if it won’t flip the state/ electoral votes to himif he gets a million more votes in the popular column, it makes it that much harder for them to steal.
I think more people are paying attention this time around, and thanks to Elon Musk, we have the opportunity to expose and discuss significant anomalies, such as massive over percentage of ballots in a handful of very blue counties, in States that are otherwise almost all red.
Yes! And the sooner we know it, the sooner we can get it into the courts. Lots of lawsuits ala law fare. RNC has plenty lawyers. Find the chink in the armor. (Judge Canon etc.). Fight Fight Fight!!!🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
“there was a 100% voter participation rate of residents of nursing homes”
Just one of a bazillion suspicious things the Fractal team has been trying to wake people up to for the past two years.
My mother and my sister were in nursing homes. My mother was aware until she reached about 98. My sister was mostly physically handicapped and was aware of things and watched tv and used a computer up to about a year before she passed away.
Many in those nursing homes didn’t even know where they were and should not have been voting.
Which they weren’t actually. Someone filled in the ballots for them though.
I had trouble following this one. But I guess if you’re going to start with the premise that the other side is going to cheat, then I guess there’s no end to the list of possible ways they COULD cheat.
From what I have seen in the last 24 years, the other side is going to cheat.
Maybe this website isn’t for you.
I have been watching “[email protected]” & “Stop Bogus Ballots“. Have you reviewed these people. They have been all over the NGO’s & postal service in cahoots to create ballots. Those are not illegals’ coming across the boarder, those are ballots!
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Only the willfully blind do not see the massive cheating going on. Democrats that are cheating and their friends in the media keep “yelling” that their is no cheating and you fall for their lies every time.
He ain’t “willfully blind”. He’s a lyin’ troll an’ he knows exactly what’s goin’ on; that the DemoCommies are cheating 10x more than 2020 in every Dem SOS controlled state.
Or….the .Blindly ideological
That is the premise. Indeed.
It’s not just a premise when there is concrete evidence.
wow!
Did you just wake from a 40-year coma?
99% likely operative.
Only question is who’s operative?
Damned Dirty Derps are earning their due, in spades.
Went from 0 for a long time to 7 quickly.
There’s more.
He’s describing ballot box stuffing in the 21st century. Flood the system with phony ballots and inject them into the counting process before anyone can verify whether the ballot originated from a legitimate, registered, voter.
Once the vote counters separate the ballot from the envelope, the fraud is consummated because there is no way to go back and figure out which ballots go with which envelopes. So you could identify 50,000 illegitimate envelopes, but it is impossible, once counted, to know which 50,000 votes should be ignored.
This is why Trump, when asked by Rogan (I think) strongly suggested his big gift to America once elected will be to return us to a one person, one ballot, in-person, ID-driven, paper ballot system.
States like CA would no longer stay blue in a system like that.
“Michigan officials have charged a non-U.S. citizen Chinese student for casting an illegal vote at an early voting site in Ann Arbor on Oct. 27.
“Only U.S. citizens can register and vote in our elections. It is illegal to lie on any registration forms or voting applications about one’s citizenship status. Doing so is a felony,” the offices of Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson and Washtenaw County Prosecutor Eli Savit stated on Oct. 30.”
This actually worries me. If this person had not stepped forward, the cheat would have commenced. And Jocelyn Benson posturing as a legitimate Secretary of State intent on enforcing Michigan election law, is extremely concerning. How many other “non-citizens” have cast ballots in Michigan? On top of the election theft already being perpetuated in solid blue territory, as described by Sundance?
Question. Once the ballot is counted, doesn’t it just become a number? If you can prove the envelopes were fraudulent, why can’t you reduce the vote count? I know the argument is that every vote must count. My argument is not every ballot is a vote. There has to be a way to overcome this. I.e., Do not allow the mixing of in person ballots with mail in. Keep the envelopes with the mail in ballots until they are deemed legitimate. It sounds like the envelopes are as, or more, important than the ballot. Why are they separated?
I’m just trying to understand since I’ve never mailed in my ballot. I’m sincerely searching for understanding.
(Edit: the solution you offer could potentially be viable, but would be clunky and what SD describes – there are those who are supposed to check this already but who will be “lenient” in what does / does not count as legitimate.)
Initial response:
The problem is how do you know which vote total to reduce? Once mixed in, there is little (scant) to no evidence to know which ballot is fraudulent. And if you don’t know which ballot to toss, you can’t determine who to remove the counted vote from.
The biggest issue in trying to fix the system is that those in the best positions to fix it, benefit from it in is current state.
In the Michigan case, I’ve seen people say to ask him who he voted for, but do you think he’ll provide an accurate list? If he tells you candidate A, but really voted for B. When you remove one from A, you’ve actually given that person a second illegal vote.
Which reminds me to note, every fraudulent vote takes 2 to overcome. One to ‘cancel’ the fraudulent vote and a second to record the actual vote that the illegal one canceled. <- if anyone really wants to understand why it's so hard to overcome the cheat…
In blueMA, my early-vote in-person ballot was placed inside my signed envelope and then run into a tabulation machine.
So my ballot is in an envelope, as are the mailed-in ones.
However, I received my ballot to fill out when I got to the town hall. I asked them to destroy the one they had mailed to me, which they did in front of my eyes. I had studied it, filled it out, and photocopied it, but decided to destroy it and get a new one when I received new information literally on my way to turn it in.
And I have another question. What about bar codes? Both of the envelopes I used had them. How would a third party mailing in a bogus ballot have an acceptable bar code?
Huh, I’m in MA and didn’t receive a mail in ballot. Went to vote last weekend. I find it utterly depressing that I only have democrats to vote for in most races. No choices! I write in names like Howie Carr as a protest.
Counterfeit ballots and antiquated processes to process them, no mechanisms to determine if legit voter or not
They’ve been cheating for years.
Hello, Nixon vs Kennedy?
Democrats have mastered the cheat for decades now.
Is that you Kamala? Cut back on the booze and maybe your reading comprehension would improve.
What can we do?
I find it hard to believe that, as smart and crafty President Trump is, he would not have done something about this years ago. Surely people involved in elections who favor Trump have explained this to him. We the people can’t do anything except file lawsuits which the supreme court (they do not deserve capital letters) which then tells all the citizens of this country we have no standing. No Standing? We are all affected by who becomes president. Do people want an actual war over this? If so, they will surely get it but at what expense?
How was former President Trump supposed to do something about this?
CAtch them, the brains of the outfit, imprison them.
Why WE NEVER SEEM to be able to intercept emails, phone calls, proof of actual election interference or conspiracy to corrupt an election, I don’t know.
But “who” is going to arrest, prosecute and imprison them if we don’t get Trump into office?
The steal has to be thwarted first.
That’s my question. Can I personally do anything regarding the tabulation centers? Or is this an area the election integrity groups are the only ones who can take action in and contribute?
Become a holy and Godly nation, and eliminate ALL ki[]in8 of our youngest citizens!!!
Why should God protect us if we are not protecting all His babies?
If we get to the other side of this fraud bacchanale then nothing else matters until we seal the border and secure future elections (single day vote; national holiday; paper ballots; no machines). We have no country until we have that.
So, if we have no Country, how do we fix anything? This is how Totalitarian Government is usually installed.
I live in florida. I never heard of a “tabulation center”. We have a “supervisor of elections” office in the counties.
I was told to watch the “clock” as my ballot was tabulated. I was in the room for all of five minutes-three of which was searching for my notes for the four page ballot. There were people reading and deciding with they wording of the issues, I’m sure they were there for 30 minutes.
How do you account for Signature Verification? 1- It could be tuned to zero which would be fraudulent on the official who runs the machine(s). 2- A cross reference of “Registered Voters” Signature Database(s) could & should be run against final tabulation and during counting. However, post count might require a legal challenge in any state with a Blue AG.
There is no such thing as an “actual” Signature Verification “integrity”. Almost any wavy line counts as a valid signature.
I was trained in signature verification as a poll worker in Nevada, which is what is the requirements before the person can vote. It is not as you say ‘any wavy line counts as a valid signature’ – in fact, it is a lot more than that and is taken extremely seriously by each of the poll workers I’ve worked with over the years – extremely seriously and diligently followed for if there is any slight hint of a difference we do in fact ask for and receive personal ID information before allowing that person to vote.
in other words – you’re just guessing. Hopefully next election season you will step up and become a poll worker, poll watcher or tabulation center worker – we need all hands on deck.
Having participated in Signature Verification in Colorado, I can tell you exactly how the counting machine is throttled and how officials from both Democrat & Republican sides have access to spot verify the setting. When the throttle is high, every signature (like a personal check) has to be verified by a human with access to a database with 1-5 signatures. When it’s low, every vote could go through and an X would pass and an O. Again, this can and should be verified by the poll watchers and there should also be a log to verify as well. The bigger question is how or who entered a valid signature for a “ghost” voter. It is however possible that somebody collected Names/Signatures/Addresses from DMV of know Illegals and used that information to create fake ballots. This would leave a trail but potentially too late to do anything much like 2020.
so just , like the fed. another counterfeiting operation. except they dont let 3rd parties counterfeit money…….except for the banks.
Thanks – that’s the word I was looking for.
COUNTERFEIT.
Everyone understands what that word means. It’s the right adjective for this sort of ballot.
In addition, it seems post election lawfare operations are already in place to push back on those challenging election results.
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Norm Eisen should be hung from the nearest lamp post.
There was a reason that in medieval times (I think that’s when it was), counterfeiters were boiled alive in oil.
No I’m not suggesting that. However, it shows how seriously people used to take this sort of crime.
It’s a crime against everyone, not just one person.
Can this CHAIN OF CUSTODY problem be taken to court RIGHT NOW?
I live in a CA community that is very diverse but whites are the plurality.
Over the course of the last 10 years, almost every replacement for retired postal workers are minorities, mostly black.
Same here.
Chinese here.
All the job gains since Biden have been government jobs. All the job gains have been to the foreign born.
i used to enroll large Public sector entities in their employee benefits programs, one on one, and even 30 years ago I saw many many government workers were not even born in this country. In Silicon Valley they had the H1B visa.(Bill Clinton) Now you see the employees and owners seem to be predominantly Indian.
I would bet this is exactly what happened in the 2022 AZ state elections. That was the beta test for 2024.
In Arizona in 2022, they expected R’s to turn out on election day and they sabatoged the machines by altering the measurement slighty for the ballot size. So, many ballots were rejected. There were long lines. It was disaster.
Yes I had heard there were some corrupt-o-“fficials” going around sticking a thumb drive into a printer and changing the settings on the sly…
By the way, this is why I gave small donations to both Abe Hamedeh and Mark Finchem for their current campaigns – they are both tested in AZ fire and still fighting. As is Kari.
I wish we would do away with mail in ballots and only reserve it to special conditions, such as for the military, expats and only if you are seriously ill and want to vote.
Early voting gives DEMS a SUBTOTAL of votes need for a cheat win, IMO.
Trump 2024
Ned: Same here. Voting should be in person on one day only, on the most reliable and verifiable system possible.
My question is why are they counted And results released before Election Day?
Only someone wanting to cheat would disagree with what you are suggesting. Well, maybe someone “too busy” to get to the polls would not agree. But if you are too busy, that is your problem, not mine.
“Once the ballot is scanned and tabulated, it’s over. There will never be a process to reverse or remove a legally recorded vote, even if that ballot is fraudulent.”
Then, on to the solution: GET this in all the press, fast.
Then, what to do?
Between manufactured ballots and this, what chance do we stand?
We know the media got its orders to pretend the race is tied. They prepared the field for the plausibility of her victory.
Or the plausibility of any election result at all.
What happens if the percentages of eligible voters is not 100 percent, or even 110 percent, as happened in some precincts in 2020, but 400 percent? A number higher than all the adults residing in the jurisdiction, twice over?
Then there is a absolutely no way to certify the election, is there?
And then we are in a never before seen constitutional crisis.
Many ways this could go.
Then perhaps a do-over is called before it can be certified. There is no reason not to. But they won’t
I don’t know what is our next move, but the ballot box isn’t working.
Well…..you could always REMOVE THE ILLEGAL VOTER….;-)
Except, as Sundance clearly shows, now there are not enough people (with a pulse) in every precinct affected by this fraud- much less even qualified, eligible voters – to match up with every ballot that is tabulated.
I grew up in Orange County Ca. “Behind the Orange Curtain” “John Wayne Airport” “Son of Orange County Richard Nixon”…Solid red. 2018 was a disgrace, The votes kept coming in until all six congressional seats flipped from republican to Dem…two weeks later. The first sign of the fraud in elections came to view when in the 1990’s Lorretta Sanchez beat our B-1 Bob Dornin. Bob had tossed in his hat for the presidency against Bill Clinton. Lorretta was declared the victor in a district where more votes were cast than voters.
It only gets worse.
I seriously believe that President Trump has Ca. If the cheat is in Kamala will be declared the winner of Ca 30 seconds after the polls close. Just like Biden!
Orange County was arrogantly stolen in 2020 as a message from the demonized Newscum Regime:
‘We Can Do Whatever We Want! No Dissent Will be Tolerated!’
Thus inviting #Haman’sGallows.
Selah.
You’re right, 2018 was a disgrace and put into place by Jerry Brown and the D super majority.
When I pointed out the ballot harvesting that flipped 6 or 7 seats, my moonbat in laws noted it was legal and the Rs were too dumb to take advantage of it.
^ “my moonbat in laws” !
Too funny as I read your sentence and thought you meant “Governor Moonbeam” Brown’s “only in CA” sobriquet. I was Ojai when 2020 went down and I swear it felt like CA went for POTUS in ’20.
But the one I was certain! they stole for certain was the Newsom ( gotta love that POTUS calls him “Newscum”! ) recall effort. No way, we didn’t vote Newsom out back then.
When more votes are cast than registered voters, the election results should be nullified and a do-over should be scheduled. But they won’t.
Depends on how loud we shout!!🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
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Hosanna to our Lord and King Jesus, for the government is upon His Shoulders!
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Thank you! It all seems discouraging, BUT GOD IS IN CONTROL. He knows all and His will WILL be done, in His own time, His own way. The battle has already been won for eternity. Be ready. Know Him.
Thank you Patriot. You are so right. Our job is to repent, pray, love and confront wrong when we see it.
Elections are controlled at the state and local level. We all need to facilitate change when we can. In my state we are working on a ballot initiative to return to hand counting, getting rid of dominion machines. The machines have modems and accept thumb drives, and on and on. We have voter ID in my state. Bottom line, fight these battles locally.
Where was Donna Rigney’s warnings when Obama was being hailed as the savior???
My greatest fear was always that there WOULD be something new from the CHEATERS. The engineers of this are always changing up because they figure we’d be wise to the previous cheats.
Once again…..seems to me this should go to state COURTS NOW….
And then there are all the ballots coming in from overseas.
Watch the polls carefully as we hit the 72 hour mark. Historically, this is when the pollsters begin to modify their previously cooked polls in order to save their reputations. How convenient that all the tabulations of polling accuracy only consider the final data set, not the ones that were manipulated by oversampling techniques for months on end.
Trump’s rally schedule tells me that this should be in the bag, but I share Sundance’s concern about what I have nicknamed the ballot tsunami. Will Harris get 120 million votes as they are all dumped into the system? Or do they need days, even weeks, to massage the drops so that the numbers don’t look surreal? Time will tell.
It is a concern, but unlike 2020 and 2022 the RNC has in place standing where these can be reviewed by the federal courts. Ballots (hard or digital) are required to be stored for 22 months after elections.
Unless they are accidentally deleted.
Tell that to Tina Peters, who was sentenced to nine years for following the law and defying demoncrat Colorado Secretary of State Jena Griswold. Griswold, who just got caught putting secret password keys online for the 2024 election. She’s refusing to resign, yet democrats are celebrating that Peters got nine years for trying to ensure election integrity.
You mean accidentally deleted on purpose.
An unnecessarily complicated voting system is the ideal tool of those trying to control outcomes. This has been in the works for decades in local areas in certain states, but took a huge leap forward in 2020. Make it complicated, make it so no one can confirm anything in front of a court, and work to certify the results asap. The courts are mostly left-leaning anyway and even the so-called right-leaning courts will not overthrow an election outcome no matter how fraudulent.
In Wisconsin in 2020, the state supreme court (conservative majority at the time) determined that well over 200K illegal ballots were counted, mostly from Dane and Milwaukee counties. All assumed to be Biden votes. Trump lost WI by around 10K votes. The court refused to do anything about it. My assumption was they pussied-out because the state would be set ablaze by the left and they didn’t want that on their hands. So here we sit.
If harris is determined to be the winner next week, Trump can just go home and we can get on with the final nails in this nation’s coffin. The GOP is every bit to blame as the left, maybe more. We are way past fixing any of this and there won’t be any civil wars or any of that crap. The right never does that, only the left.
If harris is determined to be the winner next week, Trump can just go home and we can get on with the final nails in this nation’s coffin. The GOP is every bit to blame as the left, maybe more. We are way past fixing any of this and there won’t be any civil wars or any of that crap. The right never does that, only the left.
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Truly this Felix is a magical cat because EVERY WORD IS TRUE. Thank you Felix, for bringing the reality to the hopium party.
Sadly, I have to say I am not so sure they would just let President Trump go home if their cheat gives them a win.
They want him gone.
https://archive.is/wlMQW
FTA: “Several mail ballot request forms in Monroe County were found to be fraudulent, according to officials.
District Attorney Mike Mancuso said in a social media post Tuesday that the forms were not authorized by the people named as applicants.
In at least one example, the named applicant was dead, according to the DA.
Mancuso said several of the request forms were traced to a specific person. He identified a company working out of Lancaster County, called “Field+Media Corps,” a subsidiary of Arizona-based Fieldcorps, as responsible for submitting the forms in question.
The company is a consulting firm that specializes in strategic field, media and compliance work for clients, according to its website. It helps with voter registration campaigns, door-to-door programs, ballot measures, phone banking and text campaigns, the website states.
Field+Media Corps has also been linked to voter registration forms and mail-in ballot applications that are being looked at by York County officials, according to a report by Harrisburg TV station FOX43.”
In neighboring Lancaster County, officials said they are investigating 2,500 suspicious voter registration applications that were dropped off before the Oct. 21 deadline. Officials said the applications were linked to a “large-scale canvassing operation,” but did not identify the organization behind it.
Former President Donald Trump called out both counties on a post on Truth Social, calling it “really bad ‘stuff.’”
Investigators in Monroe County found the fraudulent forms when the county’s election board conducted a review and identified about 30 irregular forms. The matter was then handed to the DA’s office.
The DA said the investigation continues into Field+Media Corps’ involvement. His office, along with the state attorney general’s office, are in contact with each other in the investigation. Mancuso said Tuesday he expects an update over the next few days.”
ANDMagazine did a deep dive into the group behind this:
https://andmagazine.substack.com/p/another-conspiracy-theory-proven
“FieldCorps is linked to and has taken money from Future Freedoms and the Service Employees International Union Committee on Political Education. Future Freedoms is connected to a host of left-wing political entities, including the America Votes Action Fund, the Democratic Legislative Campaign Committee, the League of Conservation Voters, and Forward Majority Action.”
SNIP
“Votes. Influence Watch describes the two this way:
“America Votes is a left-of-center lobbying and advocacy coalition that supports left-of-center issue advocacy and expanding voting access. America Votes bills itself as the “Coordination Hub of the Progressive Community.”
The organization was created ahead of the 2004 election by a group of liberal political operatives and longtime Democratic activists, including Partnership for America’s Families President Steve Rosenthal, EMILY’s List founder Ellen Malcolm, former Clinton administration official Harold Ickes, then-Service Employees International Union (SEIU) president Andy Stern and Sierra Club Executive Director Carl Pope.””
Observer SC: you are still too far down the chain. The ballots that SD is referring to DON’T COME FROM THE STATE!
They are printed in some back alley or foreign jurisdiction and just comingled into the mail in or drop box ballots. There may add a name to the envelope that is a registered voter, or not. The counting centers (full of AME “volunteers”) open the envelopes, throw them in a bin and scan the ballot. When its later realized that the envelope had a fraudulent name or address, its too late! Which of the 100K votes are you going to throw out?
Yes, I know… but, fraudulent registrations enable the fake counting… that is why I posted it here. It is part of the fraud.
Sundance, have you alerted anyone beyond those who read here, to this tabulation center and local ballot printing fraud possibility?
Yes
Thank you for all you do, Sundance. Glad you are reaching out to those who can make a difference!
Thank you for all you are doing, and thank you for offering this glimmer of hope that this manner of cheating might be addressed, effectively let’s hope!
👍 👍
Sundance leaves no stone unturned! 🙂
There was a single case reported in MI where a noncitizen Chinese student voted. He was caught and will be charged but the state confirmed that there is no way to remove his vote after he successfully was able to vote. This case was attached to a real person but it sounds like the locally printed ballots aren’t even being verified to belong to a real registered voter. Is that what I am to understand?
It could be that the locally printed ballots op only is taking place in the battleground states. If Trump flips some surprise states like VA, NH, NM, NY, where the Dems didn’t run this kind of fraud, then there’s still a path.
This is the only discussion that matters.
What has changed since 2020???
Absolutely nothing has fundamentally changed.
Why should the outcome be different?
The GOP knows the fake act to play – they’ll focus on everything except the tabulation centers
What?!?!? A lot has changed since 2020, not enough, but a lot. This is why SD is outlining the 4.0 operation. Things changed, and thus, the cheaters are moving to the next step for them.
People are paying attention. It’s why in Bucks County PA early voting was extended. It’s why Benson and Griswald are front and center; one was caught cheating by sharing passcodes and the other is trying to get out in front of them not certifying a Trump win in MI. So on an so forth.
Many things have changed; however, they have not changed the most important thing: getting rid of machines and having one day, one paper ballot elections.
Correct. And PDJT needs to win, along with Congress &Senate, to make that final fix happen.
So, despite all of this – I think we still need to keep on making it Too Big to Rig.
I plan to bring this the election official in my Republican town committee in blueMA to see whether there’s been any sign of counterfeit ballots.
I need to go back and read again to understand every step of how a counterfeit ballot printed outside of the election offices could get into the stream – and how many different ways it could happen.
It’s time to change the laws about voter anonymity. Any mailed ballot should have a name and address attached to it. You want to stay anonymous, go vote in person. You want to drop a ballot in ballot box, include your info.
Agreed….and MM55, most of those claiming they want anonymity are the same people with Kamala signs all over their yard.
What does it matter if the person opening the envelope doesn’t care and just scans the ballot. And then later: ” Oh oopsie, looks like this envelope did not have an accurate name, address or signature!” Ok, which ballot now scanned are you going to throw out?
“Mistakes were made” “Lawsuits against those who want audits” “Can’t stop certification”
Or, when ballots are scanned, what if it just won’t scan? How do you contact the voter to correct?
The name and address needs to stay with the ballot in case the ballot has issues. It could be a code that even if the envelope is tossed, we still know who submitted the ballot. When you vote in person any problems with the ballot either gets resolved there or there is a provisional or you walk away.
I can’t believe people aren’t screaming disenfranchisement because many mail in ballots are not curable like in-person are. Identifiers on mail ballots would make a lot of fraud much harder to pull off.
If president Trump gets to revising some voting rules a federal holiday for voting day with early voting no more than a week, with mail ballots being identified,should give everyone ample opportunities to vote and be a good start on making our elections more secure.
Certification can still be done with issues as long as those issues are documented and aren’t enough to change any outcome.
That’s why I was asking how the bar codes I saw on my ballot envelopes fit into in this scenario.
I also remember Mike Lindell talking about special paper for ballots that works like paper for currency – cannot be counterfeited.
A group of insiders meets somewhere and decides the margin of victory for key races. The margin is then broken down into vote totals at the State and precinct levels. These figures are transmitted to voting tabulation centers where sufficient ballots are ordered to meet required numbers.
Or words to that effect.
When they say “Our Democracy” that’s what they mean.
But in this election, they might have fallen short if they did that too far in advance…?
Just wondering. Maybe they have print shops working overnight…
Could we find them?
” I suspect ballot fraud in 2024 is now directly and simply the raw generation of physical ballots that have no connection whatsoever to registration processes.”
If this is true, it won’t be difficult for Trump to win, it will be impossible for Trump to win.
No it won’t if counter measures are taken.
Nothing is impossible.
To Big to Rig!
A WIN TOO BIG TO RIG
MAKES A STEAL TOO OBVIOUS TO SURVIVE
Perzactly.
Let’s stay real – that’s a very big “if”, BK.
I (and many others) thought “counter measures were taken” for the 2020
electionselection, but they fell far short. That was especially frustrating, since PDJT and others had talked repeatedly about election rigging – especially with mail-in ballots – all the way up to the election… it was not unexpected.Sundance, I have worked many hours in the Maricopa County Tabulation Center. I have not seen any questionable actions by the very competent staff performing their duties within the tabulation center. A whistle blower has brought forward the issue of the backlogged signature verification process when the ballots arrive. The ballots are compared to past signatures of the voter and life is good for that voter’s ballot. The database issue in my mind is that many ballots are generated for multiple people/voters at fictitious addresses who have not voted very often in the past or are no longer citizens of the state. The ballots may then be intercepted and completed by nefarious groups and sent back to the tabulation center. The ballot signature verification process then raises its head as the boa constrictor backlog has begun and grows bigger with each passing day. The staff then has to relax the verification standards to process the the ballots through due to a time constraints of completing the vote tabulation process of the state. This area of the process is problematic in every state.
The database issue in my mind is that many ballots are generated for multiple people/voters at fictitious addresses who have not voted very often in the past or are no longer citizens of the state.
There you go, exactly one of the problems that Fractal has been warning about and I have been posting links here to for a long time.
Misdated Mail-In Ballots Should Still Count, Pennsylvania Court Rules
The state court found that throwing out otherwise eligible ballots because they were undated or had the wrong date on the outer envelope would violate the State Constitution.
Aug. 30, 2024
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/30/us/pennsylvania-mail-in-ballots.html
The Commonwealth Court of Pennsylvania, siding with voter advocacy groups, found that tossing ballots because they did not comport with a 2019 law requiring voters to date and ***sign*** the outer envelope would violate a State Constitution clause guaranteeing “free and equal elections” and pose a “substantial threat of disenfranchisement.”
Still on PA voter rolls:
Moved, left no forwarding address: 27,672
Permanently moved out of state: 262,488
Oh, and here’s your hint that THAT is a likely avenue for fraud.
Don’t worry, they’ve caught ONE GUY, FOUR YEARS LATER, long after his illegal vote would have affected the results of the election, but don’t say exactly how they caught him.
“SEE, we caught ONE GUY, and that proves that we’re on the ball and that this is VERY rare…”
They didn’t use something like Fractal’s scanning technology, otherwise they could have removed from their voter rolls the 262,488 persons still on their voter rolls that have permanently moved out of PA or the 27,672 who moved and left no forwarding address as found by Fractal.
PLUS, they would have had to Fractal scan the voter rolls of every other state to know for certain where he moved to.
Here is their JUST IN THE NICK OF TIME cover story on election security.
Pennsylvania man faces 5 years in prison ***for voting in 2 states*** in 2020 presidential election
September 25, 2024
https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/philip-pulley-voter-fraud-2020-presidential-election/
Exactly why machines need to be dumped. If they aren’t speeding up getting the results, making the process easier for the voters, and/or making our elections more secure, why the heck are we using them?
First and formost, I really appreciate Sundances efforts to keep his Treepers informed and eyes open to all that is going on during the election, my delema is now that I know (specifically to this article) I feel more deflated and powerless to stop such caniving on the part of the Dems, outside of praying to our Heavenly Father to cause their efforts to fail, what in the world can be done to remedy this and bring it to an end? Just sayin and throwing it out there for comment.
My plan, as usual, is to try to learn and understand as much about this particular issue as I can, and then…
…BROADCAST it everywhere I can think of!
I’ll be starting with posting this article on TruthSocial with tags to everyone I can think of. And a new hashtag, probably #counterfeitballots.
Oh and 🙏🏻 it helps…at least a tiny bit, somehow, somewhere…
I can recall not long at all after BIDEN took office, he announced that his admin and the USPS had agreed to a new way to insure ELECTION INTEGRITY and he gave them millions to put the plans into practice. I said them, “Hmm, no way on God’s green earth that ANY money to the USPS in an agreement w/ Joe, who already is in that office through cheating, doesn’t involve his admin’s way and his way of insuring a 2nd term for Biden through another cheat.”
You just knew it had to happen. The brains of the Cheat take pleasure in seeing to it that the Cheat exists in perpetuity.
I have said ever since Kamala met in DC with Elias a couple/three wks ago that there was a renewed pep in her step, as if she had been told, “Don’t worry. The media is doing their job pretending the polls show you in a tie, and we’ll take care of the rest.”
Somebody posted a video called The Big Con yesterday outlining an 860 day court fight over 2020 fraud claims… if anyone knows where it is, this is the PERFECT thread for it.
Found it! Posted it below
There is no such thing as too big to rig when democrats are involved. Trump gets 100 million votes. Kamala will get 120 million. Joe Biden was equally disliked by the electorate and the deep state installed him anyway. Two thirds of the country think that we are going in the wrong direction but Kamala and Trump are neck and neck nationally?
There is only one reason for mass mail-in ballots and voting: To manipulate election results.
Bill, agreed yet the confusion created by the insertion of fraudulent ballots and those missing signature/ID you name it. Are the conditions necessary for the entire process to be delayed and litigated etc.
That’s the period during which all the fomented false flag chaos will wreak its havoc.
All that “they” want/need is enough “cover” to trigger either agreements with the UN re “Civil Unrest” ( via “Strong Cities Network” agreements ) or even as we’ve seen in that recent DoD directive 5240.01. Using U.S. military to function internally as either combatants against the populace or possibly they will euphemistically be referred to as “peacekeepers”.
If they can’t steal it outright. They just need to cover of uncertainty to cause the constitutional crises they need and so desire. Then there also is DoD directive “5240.01”. But some experts ( some I’ve read ) have argued this newly “updated” directive is still bound by the provisions laid out in Posse Comitatus that make U.S. Mil activity against U.S. citizens on U.S. soil, unlawful.
Sundance: “Once the ballot is scanned and tabulated, it’s over. There will never be a process to reverse or remove a legally recorded vote, even if that ballot is fraudulent.”
This is a fundamental fact of election process life which — for more than two years — has been ignored by the RNC, by the state Republican Party organizations, and by the Trump campaign itself .
Yes, a lot of election integrity work has been done. We are most grateful to the many volunteers who have done this work.
But even after the 2020 and 2022 election fraud debacles, the people who matter in the RNC, in the state Republican Party organizations, and even in the Trump campaign itself who should have been paying attention to the realities of election process life haven’t really been paying attention.
There has been a lot of talk from these people, especially from Lara Trump and from people like Mike Davis of Bannon’s War Room, that they are much better prepared than they were in 2020.
But even after Lara Trump’s takeover of the RNC, we did not see the kind of well-funded and well-organized action which was needed to cover the most important facets of how election fraud is being perpetrated.
After the blatant election steals in 2022, I said for two years inside my PCO circles, to state party officials, and even to Liz Harrington herself that the Trump campaign had to take direct control of the election integrity movement and to make it an integral part of the MAGA movement as a whole. This did not happen.
November 5th, 2024, is only the first phase line of a three or possibly four-phase Pitched Battle for Control of the DC Swamp.
If Too Big to Rig isn’t initially successful on November 5th & 6th in allowing the MAGA Movement to breach the first phase line of this pitched battle for the DC Swamp, then the other phase lines won’t ever be reached, and Kamala Harris will most certainly be inaugurated president on January 20th, 2025.
Ballot id and blockchain needed years ago with the voters name and address.. these can’t be anonymous to prevent the blatant cheating.
“It is not my intention to provide black pills”
LOL, neither do I, but sometimes reality really sucks…
Wisconsin Team Challenges Over 150,000 BS Voters
The Wisconsin team challenged over 4,900 today! Checkmate!
Omega4America
Oct 31, 2024
https://omega4america.substack.com/p/wisconsin-team-challenges-over-150000
Excerpt:
The Trump Campaign has been pissing away money – $22 million to its campaign manager – on useless fraud fighting operations like having 200,000 poll watchers in an election where 40% of the vote arrives via mail and 95% of the fraud is from ineligible addresses.
So our teams have been working in these states, particularly Wisconsin, for 4 years – since Sheriff Clarke first brought us to the party. And now we are doing what the RNC should have been doing – challenging legal ballots, sent to legal people, at legal addresses which are undeliverable.
The numbers are staggering as we show on our website StopBogusBallots.com.
Why is the RNC missing this?
We had some interaction with one of the RNC’s top attorneys.
Here is his comment:
The top guy Michael Whatley, and his top RNC attorney, have tons of good stuff brought to him every day, of real problems and actions to take to solve them. But his go-to line is: “oh, we’ll be seen as disenfranchising voters from casting a ballot, we can’t take that action”.
Actually, while the following is very bad, as Fractal points out, there are “voters” whose votes were counted for many years from fixed temporary locations (college dorms, short term RV parks, hotel rooms, etc.), most likely examples of ghost voters.
‘A Big Deal for Voting’: Pennsylvania Relaxes Mail-in Ballot Rules, Will No Longer Match Voters’ Signatures
Sep 15th, 2020
https://lawandcrime.com/2020-election/a-big-deal-for-voting-pennsylvania-relaxes-mail-in-ballot-rules-will-no-longer-match-voters-signatures/
There are serious issues with the voter records at the SOS offices of Michigan and Georgia released this morning in the news that appears to corroborate this indirectly.
My understanding is that fake voters have been entered into the systems, ballots generated and then the info on those voter rolls (registrations) mysteriously disappearing once completed or scanned into the system after submission.
And ballots processed for dissemination by mail.
The quantities identified by watchdogs indicate the numbers are in the hundreds of thousands in just those 2 states.
This tied with other news accounts of people in several states that have recently moved into new residences in the last few months and receiving mail of multiple ballots with different ‘names’ at their new locations.
While I do not doubt for one minute that these private non-profits are involved, the scale of this indicates to me that it is being coordinated and managed by government entities, ie GEC at the State Department.
The IC uses NGOs in other countries as front organizations. It would be a stretch for them or State to use these non-profits domestically in the same fashion.
Eliminating the machines to force people to show up to vote or cast their ballots with ID in person would eliminate all of this, imo.
I just don’t see a solution unless private citizens surround these centers and refuse to let any vehicles of people enter with ballots after polls closed, and that may not be enough.
FWIW, what I think I see at the operational level is a conspiracy and coordinated effort by:
1. State level Secretaries of State;
2. Voting machine officials (Dominion, ES&S, etc.;
3. Ballot printing companies ie Runbeck and similar entities.
The entire election process as it is now is implemented in the United States — end-to-end from start to finish — is consciously designed to facilitate election fraud.
The entry points for systematic injection of fraudulent ballots are many and are well-positioned to take advantage of the inherent lack of transparency of the overall election system as a whole.
It is next to impossible to audit the nation’s current election system in order to detect the existence of real or potential fraud. This situation will not be fixed unless Donald Trump enters the Oval Office and then makes election integrity a key priority of his administration.
I totally agree with you on this one, BW.
Black Knight:
I think you are missing part of the point. There is NO connection between the STATE/voter rolls/hell, even “actual voters.”
Some guy goes to Kinkos (are they still around?). Prints off 1000 fake ballots. Stuffs them into envelopes that may or may not have an eligible voters name/address/signature on it and then drops it into the mail.
The AME clerk at the tabulation center, opens the envelope, throws it into a bin (they can’t throw them out) and scans the ballott! Presto! Its a counted vote. If they are even ever exposed, they say” Misstakes were made” “You can’t sue” “We must certify the vote!” What vote are you going to nullify?
I don’t believe that.
The ballots, no matter who prints them, have to have barcodes. Those local printing companies are contracted locally to print those.
Those companies are most likely ‘vetted’ as vendors by officials. That ‘vetting’ is where they’re brought into the loop.
Once part of the cabal, those ballots can be produced by using fake voter registrations provided by unscrupulous officials.
Even if fake, the names still are supposed to match a name on a faked voter registration list to slip by into tabulation.
At least that is the way I understand it.
You are correct. Don’t think our cases are mutually exclusive. SD posted a week or so ago a video that showed someone backing a car to a loading dock which contained a box/pallet of ballots. The cheaters may have the “authorized” printing company “in on” the steal, but they may also use readily available technology to create “fake ballots” bar codes and all and run them off by the thousands.
If the person opening the envelope and scanning the ballot is on Team AME, then once that ballot is scanned, it is forever counted. They only need Team AME in the 9 counties that matter to sway an election as we all know by now. It does not have to be “widespread”. Could literally be a team of 8-10 people in Milwaukee that tip the scales in WI for instance.
10-4. I better understand your premise now.
Thanks for the clarification.
I.e…..Clayburns string of so called churches, that happen to be in key counties
“Even if fake, the names still are supposed to match a name on a faked voter registration list to slip by into tabulation.”
One state just located one name used multiple times and it was found so the ballots were rendered invalid. But that could well have been a “squirrel”, I’m just not sure.
B.K. I think the issue is compounded by the fact that ballots are being accepted as legitimate! even when missing the lawfully required sig verifications owing to the “mail in/dropbox” ballots etc.. At least how I understand the issues now being amplified through the use and more importantly the “acceptance” of ballots of unknown provenance etc.
We are truly at a “too big to rig” vs “never before seen levels of fraud”.
I totally agree and, unfortunately, this subject matter is not my Forte.
Am just trying to think it out.
I do believe, though, emphatically that the machines are in play also, as well as this whole thing has domestic IC involvement.
Thank you BK, for bringing in where the barcodes come from.
And I should think any Kinkos (if they do exist – don’t think so) would have some employee who would wonder what was going on with printing ballots outside of the system…
Identifying the “officials” (perhaps we could shorten their name to a Shakespearean style “offal”) who entered into the contracts might be a place to look…
I think we need to find out who really owns Runbeck, pronto.
The non-Trump co-chair of the RNC is an establishment republican. He is probably feeding intel to the RINO establishment.
Found the video:
https://restinthevine.blogspot.com/2024/10/november-5-pennsylvania-cheat-sheet-by.html
“f everything Hoopes and Stenstrom assert in the Big Con and The Parallel Election – and their theory and evidence have been tested in the fire of an 890 day court battle – then the conspiracy to steal the election involves the highest ranking Democrats in the country. In the case of Reid Hoffman, Josh Shapiro, Stephan Pachikov, Kevin Madden, and Ashley Biden’s husband, Dr. Howard Krein, they are engaged in a criminal conspiracy against the fundamental right of the citizens of the United States of America. Or, in plain language, treason.”
After Voter Finds Fraudulent Ballot Cast In His Name, New York Tells Him It Will Count Anyway
DUTCHESS COUNTY, New York — “I’m sorry sir, but you already voted.”
“No I didn’t,” 55-year-old Mike Miner told a Wappingers Falls election worker on Sunday — yet that’s not what election records showed.
Miner told The Federalist that he decided to vote early, just one day after early voting began on Saturday.
“I went up to the table and was told I already voted,” Miner said. “I ask, ‘Where did I vote?’ Because, of course, this is very surprising to me. And they told me I voted in the town of Fishkill [which is located next to Wappingers], 22 minutes after early voting began on Saturday.”
Miner was given an affidavit ballot, which is a provisional ballot that is secured inside an affidavit envelope. A bipartisan team at the Dutchess County Board of Elections investigated the situation and determined that since the signature provided Saturday did not match Miner’s actual signature, Miner’s affidavit ballot will count — but so will the fraudulent vote cast Saturday in Miner’s name. That’s because once a ballot is cast, the vote itself becomes anonymous, making it impossible to identify the fraudulent vote and remove it from the bunch.
“This election is so important to me, and for somebody to vote in my name — I feel so violated,” Miner said.
Erik Haight, the Republican election commissioner on the Dutchess County Board of Elections, told The Federalist that he takes the incident extremely seriously and will be working with local law enforcement to get to the bottom of what happened.
“We were made aware of the situation almost immediately when [Miner] showed up to vote. We instructed the bipartisan team of election inspectors to issue Mr. Miner an affidavit ballot, and we had an agreement with both Democrat and Republican commissioners that this affidavit ballot will count,” Haight told The Federalist. “I have referred this matter to the District Attorney’s office so that they can do an investigation and we will follow up on this very thoroughly.”
“We want to assure the public that our elections are secure, that it’s possible this was an honest mistake — but if not we are going to investigate it — and that we encourage everyone who is eligible to vote to vote and know their vote will count,” Haight said.
But Miner says it’s “ridiculous” that a system — which is supposedly “secure,” according to Haight — doesn’t require ID to vote, which could have prevented the fraudulent vote from being cast.
“You don’t have to show ID to vote, I think it’s ridiculous — anyone can walk in, just as what happened to me, and say ‘I’m so and so’ and vote. So I don’t believe the system is safe right now,” Miner said. “And I know I’m only one vote, but I have the right to vote and my vote should count. Someone shouldn’t steal your vote and that be able to count. I don’t know the outcome of that vote — what if it was opposite of what I voted? Then it cancels my vote out.”
But Miner’s situation could have been avoided if New York wanted to have an ounce of integrity in their elections. The Empire State is one of 14 states that do not require voters to show ID in order to vote. In fact, voters who try to voluntarily show an election worker their ID for posterity’s sake are given the cold shoulder — at least that’s what happened to Elon Musk’s mother, Maye Musk.
“At early voting in NYC today, no ID required,” Musk posted on X. “They actually won’t even look at your ID.”
And New Yorkers can thank the Democrat supermajority in the state legislature for their insecure elections. Assembly Bill 06297 was introduced in April of 2023 and would require voters to provide proof of identity when casting a ballot.
But Assemblyman Anil Beephan, who cosponsored the legislation, confirmed to The Federalist that the bill did not make it out of committee because the Democrat supermajority prohibited the bill from being voted on, thereby preventing it from a full floor vote. Beephan said Miner’s incident only deepens his resolve for action to secure elections.
“After speaking with [Miner] I am even more resolved in my support for initiatives in the state legislature that would require voter identification at the polls,” Beephan told The Federalist. “It’s unfortunate that a fraudulent ballot will be counted in this critical election year. Even a single illegitimate vote undermines the integrity of our democratic process and threatens the fairness of election outcomes, especially when similar cases may go undetected.”
But it’s not just New York State Democrats who want to prevent election integrity measures from being put in place. Attorney General Merrick Garland vowed in March to fight election security laws like those that would require voter ID.
“We are challenging efforts by states and jurisdictions to implement discriminatory, burdensome, and unnecessary restrictions on access to the ballot, including those related to mail-in voting, the use of drop boxes, and voter ID requirements.”
But voter ID laws aren’t any more “discriminatory” than, for example, the Democratic National Convention requiring proof of ID in order to get in for “security” purposes.
As I previously wrote, “Voter ID requirements serve the same purpose as security screenings at the DNC: they prevent ineligible persons from participating” in elections.
If New York had voter ID laws for election “security” purposes, Miner wouldn’t have been disenfranchised.
There have already been more ballots counted than possible voters, in some locations. Everyone knows it, but nobody does anything about it, because no one, and no entity, has “standing” to challenge it in Court.
Which locations?
I know it happened in the past in Philadelphia and would look there first.
Also notice that even if a fraudulent vote (voter) is identified, they can’t remove the vote because it was “anonymized” and they don’t know who it was for 😒
then all need to revote with id and in person to solve problem
Perhaps an example in Northern Nevada at the Washoe County Registrar office there have been four directors in the last four years. Just early this month the current acting director was forced out by the County powers that be (D controlled). She has filed a wrongful action case against the county.
The tabulation center in Washoe (a strong R area with about 1/3 registered voters for R, D, and independent) will now be managed by a quick inplant person to oversee the tabulation.
Wonder if last minute personnel changes are happening elsewhere?
How with all the fraud is it too big to rig?
^ The $64,000.00 question, for sure. It’s one or the other – way I see it.
Ballot box stuffing isn’t new….been going on since before the civil war…there used to be a price for it too….
In my opinion, if we do not get Roach to superintend our cemeteries, enough Democrats will dig out at the next election to carry their entire ticket.
– Mark Twain; Early Tales & Sketches, Vol. 2 1864-1865, (Univ. of California Press, 1981), pp. 313-14.]
History repeats, only those who are ignorant to it are surprised. For those who are not, they are vindicated.
No Voltaire or Lewis Carrol today?
Lewis Carroll:
The Dodo after the Caucus race:
“All have won, and all must have prizes!”
JFK would never have been in the WH without massive fraud out of Chicago and Texas (thanks to LBJ). For people educated in the US school system, JFK was the 1960 election…….
If not for SYSTEMIC cheating, there would be NO Democrat party.
“It is not my intention to provide black pills. “
Sure seems like enough extra large black pills to gag a herd of elephants.
Here’s a “moron” or “not moron” test for everyone:
Considering what has been exposed thus far and how VASTLY more secure systems are regularly hacked and cheated, systems which have VASTLY LESS incentives to hack and cheat than our hot mess election system run in 50 different states in 50 different ways every two years by partisan government employees and volunteers, I believe, despite that:
Moron: Our election system is somehow uniquely secure, immune from malfeasance, and fully trustworthy.
Not moron: Our election system can be trusted as far as I can throw Jerry Nadler.
The rest of the statement:
“However, we discuss events through the prism of what exists, what we can see and track, rather than what we pretend might be in place”
The truth has no agenda.
And sometimes it really sucks…
Yep. Definitely sucks.
But I will take hard truth, any day, over pretending.
Same here as you can tell by my unpopular posts.
I kicked any hopium addiction decades ago.
Me too. That’s why I have posted so little since the big steal of 2020.
^ Nice. Re: ‘hopium”. I’m still “chipping” as a weekender. Trying to limit the effects of my internally generated black-pilled endorphins.
Or cause them to stampede on their aggressors. 👀
“The Wrath of the ‘Awakened’ Saxon”
Rudyard Kipling
Yeah, but these days there are far too few Saxons…
Glow Harder.
Everything Dems touch turns to siht. Our election process comes to mind.
Sundance, I know you had an article about this earlier when Clyburn was visiting these states. Are the locations of these tabulating centers known?
“I suspect “Balloting iteration 4.0,” the system in place for 2024, is no longer a ballot issue connected to registered voters and voter rolls.”
I do not understand this statement. Admittedly, I have a limited understanding of the modern system of voting and tabulating ballots. However, as an accountant, this is tantamount to telling me that when it comes to reconciling a bank account, the statement from the bank no longer matters.
I remember, when I began voting many years ago, I would present my identification and a poll worker would hand me a ballot while a second poll worker looked up my name in a printed voter roll and checked me off. If we now have a system whereby ballots can be tabulated completely devoid of any reconciliation to an officially compiled list of legitimate/registered voters, then any claim that our elections are legitimate is every bit as nonsensical as saying, “I can’t be overdrawn, I still have checks.”
The only remaining limitation would be a turnout level among the non-cheating side that forces the level of cheating to wildly overrun the sum total of the voting-age population. Unless the tabulators are used to actually flip votes from one side to another inside the ballot box… which, from some of the evidence that surfaced after 2020, may be functioning as the backup plan for the side that cheats. Are there no whistleblowers?
He’s saying the voters names are just made up and not from govt voter rolls.
Really hoping that True the Vote trained people are working in all State ballot processing locations, in each county, and on the lookout and ready to call attention to any suspected privately printed ballots as they come in to each tabulation center.
It’s a lot to ask for, but surely there are enough citizens stepping up to work that part of the election process along with those who stepped up to be poll workers and poll watchers/observers.
Feet on the ground, eyes wide open is how we can peacefully fix this mess; otherwise, hard roads ahead.
“in all State ballot processing locations”
But they have no way to stop the logging of mailed votes from voters falsely validated as legal voters by garbage voter rolls!!!!!
That’s Fractal’s point and why they laugh at the 200,000 RNC poll watchers.
The over/under on the total number of ballots this year has to be North of 180 million.
Attention Trump voters – VERY IMPORTANT
Wear a vest to vote if you haven’t voted already. Take pictures of all of you in line.
If Trump voters start wearing orange vests in voting lines, we’re gonna see it on TV news coverage of the polling places
The media won’t be able to avoid it unless they don’t show ANY voting-line footage
We’ve got 6 delicious days of watching that spectacle
This suggestion comes from Treeper Brant, on the President Trump Gives Hilarious Explanation… thread
Brant
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/10/30/president-trump-gives-hilarious-explanation-telling-background-story-of-garbage-man-vest/#comment-11240686
It goes without saying the Baby-boomers will be in a pension crisis before they die if they don’t let President Trump fix the corporate governmental kleptocracy. There’s no-way these money grubbing corporations (that they’ve created) are going to sustain their pipe-dream retirements; their only chance is to give President Trump his rightful Office.
The poll workers are wearing the vests.
Workers who wear such vests ought to donate them for a few days….
virtually everyone I have met in the past month building new houses here in AZ is a Trump supporter.
I already voted, but I bet nearly everyone behind me also voted for Trump et al.
The only ones I worry about are the unmarried women aged 20-40.
They are brainwashed beyond repair. Fortunately they only represent 15 % of the vote.
Make this vest wearing thing easier, and it makes it happen.
A great idea. Wish I had thought it up.
Attention Trump voters – VERY IMPORTANT
Wear a vest to vote if you haven’t voted already. Take pictures of all of you in line.
If Trump voters start wearing orange vests in voting lines, we’re gonna see it on TV news coverage of the polling places
The media won’t be able to avoid it unless they don’t show ANY voting-line footage
We’ve got 6 delicious days of watching that spectacle
This suggestion comes from Treeper Brant, on the President Trump Gives Hilarious Explanation… thread
Brant
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/10/30/president-trump-gives-hilarious-explanation-telling-background-story-of-garbage-man-vest/#comment-11240686
apology for the double post