Stay away from the sketchy story around “Vem Miller” (DOB 10-26-74), and everything that surrounds the story of the possible 3rd assassination attempt. Everything about this story is sketchy in the extreme, including his defenses.
Multiple, at least 3, passports. Multiple, at least 3, ids. Fake tags on vehicle. Unregistered vehicle. Firearms (shotgun and handgun). Claimed fake credentials for Trump rally. A personal and familial connection to USA, Armenia, Great Britian (UK) and Canada. Riverside County Sheriff Chad Bianco outlines the commonsense approach to viewing people as “sketchy.”
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You can review background documents on sketchy Vem Miller – SEE HERE
You can review sketchy Vem Miller’s position in a Daily Mail article – SEE HERE
There are weird and sketchy people in the world, and law enforcement engage with weird and sketchy people every day. When a federal law enforcement agency like the FBI engages with weird and sketchy people, generally the weird and sketchy people become confidential human sources.
Stay away from weird and sketchy people.
Sounds like he was bringing them in for others to use. Multiple people.
Sounds to me like this guy is a fanboy, or groupie, or infatuated with the notoriety from supporting republicans. Could be harmless but we have heard stories about groupies that got cut off from their “popularity” or access fix, and became dangerous stalkers after this rejection.
The guns he claims to have never fired but authorities are voluntarily alerted to is also odd. It may be that he believes he is more popular or important than he really is, so he gets guns thinking that his activism puts him in danger and having the guns elevates his importance. His announcing he has guns is another narcissistic attribute.
Narcissism: “encompasses a hunger for appreciation or admiration, a desire to be the center of attention, and an expectation of special treatment reflecting perceived higher status.”
I don’t know, but I agree with Sundance, something weird and sketchy about him.
Are the pictures with him and all the conservative headliners real or shopped?
https://rumble.com/c/AMERICAHAPPENS
This guy is legit…. a bit stupid and full of himself, but many things do check out.
Sketchy is right. Maybe the entire story is what’s sketchy. Stay frosty and be highly suspicious of the FBI as well.
More info from Mindy Robinson….
Vem Miller statement on Rumble:
https://rumble.com/v5im5xh-vem-millers-statement-about-the-3rd-assassination-attempt-on-donald-trump.html
I listened to the whole thing but may have drifted. Did he explain the multiple aliases?
No. Nor was he charged with having multiple identities.
I think the Daily Mail article (per Sundance’s link in the article above) sort out the facts re. his name(s) and some false assertions about him better than most any other source at the moment.
The guy is definitely sketchy but the official authorities including PDJT’s campaign appear to have indicated they don’t consider Miller a threat to President Trump.
Thanks, I had wondered if I may have missed it as I started preparing food while listening.
Mindy Robinson? The reality TV person? Really? You quote someone that gets more attention than Sundance mainly because she shows off her “assets”?
Not info. Just another opinion which we welcome.
Suggest you listen to Miller’s statement on Rumble which I posted below my other posts.
I am not advocating FOR or AGAINST Vem Miller. Simply presenting information – including other opinions – that contradicts the “official” narrative that has this far been presented without opposing views. Sundance has correctly observed the story – and the man Miller – as sketchy. I agree.
“Just another opinion” – also true of your post about Mindy Robinson.
There are heaps of contradictions between millers story and LE.
The tape and documents will sort this out.
Oh yes, I agree. That’s the main reason Bongino is holding firm to his restraint from commenting any further until he gets what he believes is corroboration of what some “reliable insiders” have revealed to him. He did say that Miller being a third assassin was “not the case”.
I believe our blog host here is also waiting for more reliable info before posting any updates.
Well stated GB!
Already did. Having spent some volunteer time in my local senate district leadership, I have seen lots of different “activists”. Some are professional, logical and motivated, others seem to thrive on the notoriety. My opinions are based on grassroots volunteerism.
I haven’t heard anything about Millers activities like serving on committees, being elected to local leadership, time spent door knocking, evaluating Bylaws or vetting candidates or any grassroots efforts. Could be wrong but my experience says “be skeptical”.
Suspicious Cat.
false flags all over the place
Could be a replicant of this Nutjob:
Charles Julius Guiteau
👍 for your historical acumen.
I’m content for the moment knowing that none of us has any idea of the truth of this story, and it will likely take quite a bit of time to get the truth. In the meantime it seems wise to heed Sundance’s warning about sketchy people.
That Mindy girl on Twitter is certainly sketchy, as is the guy in the car with guns and fake passports. The sheriff should be presumed to be sketchy until proven otherwise. Anyone with the feds is certainly sketchy.
Pray for wisdom to be able to discern the sketchy liars from the truth tellers.
There’s so much sketchiness afoot that I refuse to sketch for a while.
FD, that cracked me up. Lotsa laughing faces. Wink.
Sketchy? Mindy is certainly no political heavyweight, but she does have a history of being pro-Trump and even called Lindsey Graham a traitor for saying Trump lost in 2020. She tried running in Nevada’s 3rd District for Congress as a Republican and came in 3rd. I’ve searched her name on the ‘net but so far have not found any evidence – credible or otherwise – that she was aligned with any anti-Trump, anti-MAGA people, actions, or sentiments.
https://news3lv.com/news/local/woman-who-yelled-at-sen-graham-in-viral-video-is-former-nevadan-republican-candidate
I live in Riverside County, I have family employed by RSO and there’s nothing sketchy about Chad Bianco. Take my word for it
A lot of people have been saying the same thing.
Totally with you on that.
I wondered if the situation might have been to set him up for embarrassment ahead of a possible 2026 run for guv. Far fetched, but everything I have considered far fetched has turned out not to be so.
I grew up with weird, sketchy people. I think that is why the IC’s form and behaviour is so familiar, comfortable with me.
They tend to be very bright and very lost.
When I heard he was almost immediately released the first thought I had was: he’s a fed
I am just thankful that President Trump is okay!! 🙏🙏
Sketchy
Glowy
Both of them.
FED
So an unknown – at a California Trump Rally – with guns & multiple ID’s with different names … has a selfie with the J6 Shaman AND sat close to DonJr at a Trump Rally ??! – there are ZERO coincidences in Politics.
The gentleman is being interviewed by Alex Jones right now.
Whatever this and he turns out to be, it is a distraction, IMO.
Agree
Totally agree. They want focus on Trump and “assassination” instead of the total destruction from Hurricane Helene in North Carolina (where early voting begins this week (Oct. 17)). I really wonder how those people in the area of the floods and destruction will be able to vote. Someone needs to be looking into that.
There’s nothing here, certainly nothing remotely like an attempt on the president’s life. This guy is harmless. The license plate thing is a quirky conservative conspiracy theory that we see a lot in Texas. Nothing to it. He told the police about the guns voluntarily and had this been in Texas or any other conservative state, nothing bad would have happened. But this was California, which isn’t really part of America anymore. Big nothingburger.
Try driving around Florida with homemade license plates and multiple IDs and see what happens..
He was never charged with fake plates or possessing multiple IDs or even given a ticket for it. The sheriff was obviously lying about him saying he wanted to kill Trump. He was let go the same day with a ticket for two misdemeanors – which he reads and holds up to the camera in his Rumble video I posted above.
After asking him tp answer some questions, and hearing his agreement provided his attorney was present, the secret service agents walked away from his holding room at the police station without questioning him, which would not be the case if he was truly suspected of being a true threat / assassin.
GB gotta say it.seems.this was just an attempt.to get publicity for his and Mindy,s network. It was neatly.the first thing out of his mouth in his statement.
But in the interest of good conspiracy gamesmanship I must call foul on this statement
“After asking him tp answer some questions, and hearing his agreement provided his attorney was present, the secret service agents walked away from his holding room at the police station without questioning him, which would not be the case if he was truly suspected of being a true threat / assassin.”
Is this the US secret service or was their a more.professiomal foreign secret service you are putting your faith in?
This info was part of Miller’s public statement in his Rumble video (again, link posted above).
Also, ex-USSS agent Dan Bongino said today on his show that his inside (implied USSS or very close to USSS) sources told him that the “we thwarted a 3rd assassination attempt” story is “NOT the case”, and Dan is adamantly exercising his Bongino Rule to not comment for 24 to 72 or ? hours after initial news report so as to get clearer information about the facts..
I saw Bongino’s “take” also and given his background, lend more “credence” to his perceptions than most other “talking heads”.
Your “take” is confluent with mine, on this subject/event. I suppose that’ll save me pages of scrolling lol
I can’t stand Bongino. He shouts and screams like a drunk or a lunatic sitting on a bus bench. I do listen for a few minutes then click off because of the screaming. 😱
Or he could have questioned the Secret Service Agents about them being asssassins.
just sayin’.
HAH! True! But I’m sure that wasn’t foremost on his mind while sitting in the police station having been denied multiple times to make one phone call to his lawyer…
My point Gb, is he wouldn’t have made TO the rally driving around with Sovereign paper plates here in the Sunshine State! FL LE wouldn’t have appreciated firearms being transported TO a Trump rally by a civilian.
Yes I agree it was stupid to attend that rally with two firearms in the back of his vehicle.
OR….my first thought was that he was fishing for a good reason to file a $$$$ defamation lawsuit against overzealous law enforcement AND possibly against multiple news outlets for smearing him before the true facts were known.
He said right in his Rumble video he told the police he’d be suing them. I don’t think he succeeds because of his having the guns in his possession (vehicle) at a Trump rally, in light of the events of the preceding three months. He may have a point about being denied a phone call to his attorney, but how that translates to $$$$, I don’t know.
It’s easier to attend a rally with two guns in your car than with two explosive laden vehicles.
Still not getting the straight dope on how Super Freak Crooks pulled that off.
From what I recall, he never pulled his white van onto the fairgrounds- it was parked by his home. The car he took to the fairgrounds was a Hyundai Sonata according to some reports, and they apparently found two explosive devices in that car.
The detail info is hard to find as most reports fail to mention the type of vehicle he drove to the fairgrounds, and none mention specifically where it was parked that day.
Miller is a Nevada resident. But when guns are brought to another state that state’s gun regulations apply. And bringing guns to an event where the candidate was the victim of two assassin attempts and a spectator was killed is either stupid or Milker was trying to make some anarchist point
At most indoor presidential events all guests and workers go through metal detectors
It’s an ancient rule in all societies that persons entering the court of the ruler not bring weapons. Check them at the entrance.
Your first sentence refers to “reciprocity.” CA has rejected reciprocity and does NOT honor any other state’s concealed carry permits. It’s part of why I opined that Miller doesn’t have a strong case against the police.
^^ That jibes with the interview of him I saw. SS doesn’t “walk away” unless.
Ever Rowe’s SS wouldn’t. ( of course they’d let a potential assassin near – but that’s another story )
If he’s never fired a gun … why does he have guns … in his car … at a high security Trump Rally … in California … and carrying 4 separate identifications ???!
I took the day off from CONJECTURE. But did hear the guy in an interview and his immediate and forthright manner coupled with “his version” of events countered reasonably for me questions rightly raised when first “we” heard all the “sketchy” details.
I think (a) all of everyone here is understandably hyper focused on anything that might bring harm to POTUS and by extension the future of this Nation and (b) we know have information that tends to dispute much of what was FIRST reported.
The “fog” of first reports should always be taken with suspicion.
I too concur with “nothing is, as was first reported”. They gave the dude a ticket and released him.
That’s my takeaway until and unless I learn more. He can return to his life as fanboy, it would seem. I will return to pondering the daily madness that is the election of 2024 – and PRAY.
MAGA 2024
👍👍
I reposted this and it got flagged as going against FB’s “community standards” as SPAM.
I have recently received a whole lot of various flags from them on lots of different posts lately!!
I am having a very hard time with chemo and need to stay in touch with certain people and THERE IS NO WAY TO TELL WHAT WILL TICK THEM OFF UNTIL IT”S TOO LATE!!
I am so pissed off.
“spam” seems to be the preferred Troll “tool” – they report as “spam” – and your comment is immediately removed … apparently without any moderator review.
After around 20+ years I was booted off FB for something, maybe I posted too many pictures of The Moron doing face plants up airplane steps. Niece helped me get going again after a couple of months. I got the message and now don’t do so much political posting. Maybe that is what they are after with you.
Why o why is anyone on FB? You are the product they are selling
Yes, you’re right. I post a LOT everyday.
So, in order to keep in touch with some people that I REALLY need to, I should probably just self censor 🙂
Strange choices in America.
Can’t you keep in touch by email?
They are much younger and work several jobs and rarely use their emails. However, they do use Messenger a lot. But I would miss their pictures and things that they put up on FB–we share a history from way back and I’ve made them my heirs.
If he’s a ‘journalist,’ then this arrest and accusations would be a ‘reason,’ to seize all work product. Sources, whistle blowers, travel records, notes, recordings, Internet search, etc. All would need auditing by FBI, CIA, SS, etc.
National security, wink wink.
Just like they need to spy on Trump campaign to know what the Iranians are up to.
Would a real MAGA person get a $5,000 bond?
“Multiple, at least 3, passports. Multiple, at least 3, ids.”……………
Everyone has their 15 minutes of fame. With this guy’s triplicate documentation cache, will we be hearing all about him for 45 minutes? Judging by his history so far, I’m gonna be careful not to wear out the cables on my Etch-A-Sketch too soon.
lol!
‘etch-a-sketch’ reference .. dig it
wow, we thought those were so space-age and/or magic when I was a kid.
Ummm….I have a personal connection to all those countries too, Sundance, and I’m not a fed :)!
British-Canadian Dad, Armenian-American Mother which affords me access to multiple passports…
Not as strange as you might think 🙂
All of your passports have different names?
I don’t trust this Vem character.
I also don’t trust the Sherriff to not have overstated the situation.
If the credentials are proved valid, and the ‘multiple passports’ are just that.. legitimate passports from different countries, all for the same man (Vem), then I may start to wonder if the Sherriff wasn’t looking to make a media splash over this for whatever reason (maybe he’s up for election?)
Last I checked, you’re allowed to have several passports from various countries, correct me if I’m wrong.
And of course, if the event credentials are fake, and the passports are fake… then lock this guy up for however long the law allows according to whatever laws were broken.
Beyond all of that, you gotta be ‘six kinds of stupid’ to bring loaded firearms to a Trump event in Commiefornia, especially these days. Holy cow. He says he voluntarily informed the authorities at the gate that he had them. Was that some sort of ‘4d-chess’ move he figured would get him past any scrutiny in order to then wage whatever violence he intended? I’m not sure what to think, this is all very odd.
I hope we’ll find out more in the days ahead. I’m skeptical of all sides of this story at this point.
Let’s not blame the sheriff. Too many suspicious things about the guy. Why do LE catch serious criminals s when they make a traffic stop for a tail light out? Sheriff did the right thing
I’m usually the 1st to support LE, but does it not strike you odd that the Sherriff has this big presser about a ‘foiled attempt’, then they let the guy out on 5K bond? A jay walking fine winds up being about as much as this guy had to post (what is it, 10%?) to go home the same afternoon.
Sorry, in this case, the Sherriff gets some side-eye for now. I admit, and said as much, that this whole thing is weird and ‘off’. If it helps, I’m equally if not more suspicious of Vem.
It won’t surprise me to find out everything we think we knew on day one is the opposite later.
His statement on X … fwiw.
https://x.com/AshtronautGirl/status/1845824049722593754
Sounds like the script of Clint Eastwood movie protecting the president and mixed with Jason Bourne movies. And he walks with 5000$ bail. Next time this guy surfaces and pulls off a crime they will say ” HE WAS KNOWN TO THE FBI”
Listening now to this lengthy speech by Vem Miller:
Very convincing this is an incident very much like the time Sheriff Grady Judd of Polk County, Florida where he arrested a bunch of flea market sellers selling a software modified TV stick called “jail broken.” So based on the name, he arrested a collection of people where later the cases against them were lost. Very embarrassing.
This guy goes into far too much verifiable detail for far too long that it’s hard to imagine he’s simply making this stuff us.
He also sounds a bit “Eastern European” based on some of the ways he pronounces words, the sentence structure and the vocabulary selection.
It’s interesting that the Sheriff goes on TV calling him a “sovereign citizen” type. That is obviously not the case.
Add that to the very low bond? They know they F’d up but will not want to admit wrong doing in this case. But the false claims against this man will likely lead to legal action against the Sheriff’s office and probably many of the individuals.
He was charged and sounds like he could have been charged with more. DA charged. Judge sets bail. Sheriff did his job.
He was arrested on a misdemeanor charge. No appearance before a judge. He was released on what’s called own recognizance. Done by a clerk working in the jail as soon as the suspect is brought in. Two shifts of clerks. So suspects aren’t even put in a cell Just sit in the OR clerks office
Could have been an IC (foreign or US) plant who’s spent considerable time building up his MAGA bona fides and working his way toward PDJT insiders, only to get blown over the front pages by an “overzealous” cop.
After two assassination attempts I don’t think cops can be overzealous enough in that direction.
https://jameshowardkunstler.substack.com/p/lawfare-is-jihad-against-our-country?utm_medium=web&triedRedirect=true
I’ll stay away from Sketchy Vem, but I’ll keep a sharper lookout for Right-wing documentarians (the gal in the strapless mini-dress in the Daily Mail article)
… if you gnomesayin’
Ja!
I just watched this moron’s very indignant video where he is very upset and pissed off at the cops for arresting him- WTF??
Are you kidding me? This is not just sketchy, this was probably some kind of FBI / CIA/ Deep State assassination attempt that went wrong (in my estimation).
After he just admits to what happened with his phony IDs, paperwork and LOADED GUNS in the truck, he has the balls to claim that he was mistreated by the deputies who would have been within their rights to shoot first and ask questions later! And all this is AFTER our President Trump has almost been killed previously by would be assassins. There is something VERY wrong with this whole story- it stinks to high heaven.
This is one of the most un-f****- believable stories I have ever heard in my life and to top it off, they let this scumbag go on his merry way.
And the sheriff seems like he’s way out in left field too. We cannot forget for one minute that there is literally NOTHING that the Deep State Commies will not do to stop our President and MAGA.
This was too close for comfort. Don’t care what anyone says.
How and what was his bail? Not charged for fake license plate and state ID? Who nailed him out, or does Riverside have a Soros prosecutor?
I, for one, am simply sick of all this sh!t.
Long time political junky. Put heart and soul into Dubya’s leadership. Sorely disappointed Texan born and raised. This Vem whatever thing stinks. I don’t know the answer. I do know there are no coincidences in politics. And secondly, our IC has no restraints even by lawmakers. “Sorry congressman, that case is still active.” I cry bovine excrement. That is all.
I know this, if you attend a MAGA rally, to support Trump/MAGA you don’t need to lie, cheat or steal or bring weapons.
Dems and RINO’s don’t MAGA , can’t MAGA because they lie,cheat,steal and bring weapons.
I’m done playing “let’s pretend” I’m playing MAGA for the WIN!
here is the citation he received:
https://x.com/RaheemKassam/status/1845852871503249902
These Cops are Bullshit Liars with a Bullshit Agenda.
WHAT IF –
1 – The IC intentionally feeds regional LEOs info crafted to generate this confusing scenario; whether Vem is a patsy, or not?
2 – This incident/guy is just another bright, shiny object, to distract attention from other more serious, more discrete efforts in work, elsewhere? Example: The repeated faux-MAGA straw-man still ain’t workin,’ but it has established a narrative trend. Meanwhile, is anybody even looking for the pro-terrorist farm team(s) coming over the southern border?
One refreshing outcome from SD’s ongoing analysis is that it’s becoming much more clear who “they” are. Thanks for that, first and foremost.
My 2 cents.
GBU & GBA!
His lady friend pictured in the Daily Mail, Mindy Robinson, is pretty hot. She could pass for “energetic material” if Chris Wray found her in Vem Miller’s Florida Man van. I’m not so sure about her profession, “Right-Wing Documentarian,” whatever that is? Sounds like a religious sect crossbreed between a snake handler and a Unitarian.
Hmmmm. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/10/man-accused-third-trump-assassination-attempt-releases-statement/
Strange & sketchy indeed.
What do you think this means or represents?
To get tbe following question from two different online people on same day, same wording. We don’t know each other, so this question is by way of introduction.
“For how long have yyou been a follower of the light and seeker of the truth?”
This IS relevant to this thread.
Clearly these to people are connected.
But is this like someone offering a secret handshake to find out if you are also s member of the cult or secret group?
Do these words represent something directly? “follower of the light” ?
‘seeker of the truth” ?
Would these two people be both connected AND beyond sketchy?
Thanks for any help.
They sent this guy in to create a hop between everyone close to Trump, then tried to arrest him…. or he’s something more nefarious.
I think the entire story is sketchy.
Was it payback from the feds for a documentary (on the Bundy Ranch goings on) he and Mindy reportedly just finished?
Caught themselves another sketchy patsy (they’re always sketchy), this time before he could be handed the bag. Screwed up SOMEONE’s plans when there was no patsy to point to. (“Abort! Abort! Abort!”)
This “Vem” looks to be a weird guy with weird habits and a very weird backstory. Most likely he is one of the strange attention-seeking parasites who hover around the periphery whenever famous people are around, hoping to sneak themselves into closer contact.
Usually they are grifters on-the-make. As soon as they get some selfies or photobombs with a few recognizable people they use that pseudo “credibility” to scam other people by portraying themselves as an “insider” and hinting that they can exercise influence. They play-act at being part of somebody’s inner circle.
The media is filled with these people. Some of them have their own podcasts, radio shows, book-deal etc.
A groupie narcissist.
Everything the guy did was legal in NV where he was from. The multiple IDs were sketchy but no one seems to care about that. It is all about the guns. Beware narrative from anti-gun sources.
If you are a gun owner you must be aware that when you are in another state all the laws and petty regulations of the state you are in apply to you, your car, your gun and other possessions.
Welcome to the Inland Empire where most people have common sense. Sheriff Bianco does a great job!!
why isn’t vem miller suing the police for personal injury, slander?
why didn’t the police charge him with several serious violations?
is the media ripping another cow manure …with it’s own agenda to sell hysteria?
God Bless America
All charges dropped totally debunked. He may sue.
Did we just trip over an embedded Fed?
I don’t follow the Ariel account on X. To me it smells like a trap. But wondering what SD thinks of what this post alleges about the Flynn camp and this incident. Thx.
https://x.com/Prolotario1/status/1846137668821827621
I’ve got the sneakin’ suspicion that Miller, like several other men during and since J6, is a Fed and presented as a distraction. “Sketchy” doesn’t even come close.
Everythign is NOT always as it appears – naratives controlel from all sides “anyoen can appear to be who the want for a period of time … then cracks int he story develop.” HUmans always compelled to ‘know” in time, you miht ‘know’ some of the story, but rushign to form oppiniosn is a disease of ego… let it simmer.Question” Was Vem ever an atendee at Diddy parties ? The more you know ….
another cia-mossad dual citizen zombie who is a “filmmaker” aka a cover story