This is a little bit unusual, and I don’t generally recommend going to a bizarro leftist narrative article for full review; however, in this case it is worth it.
Politico has written an article about FEMA Administrator Deanne Criswell, saying disinformation about the federal government response to Hurricane Helene, “is absolutely the worst I have ever seen,” Criswell told reporters on a Tuesday morning call. “It’s creating distrust in the federal government, but also the state government, and we have so many first responders that have been working to go out and help these communities,” she added. {link}
However, if you go read the article fraught with pearl-clutching and protestation, you might curiously discover there is not a single citation for any claimed “disinformation.” {SEE HERE} It is very odd to see FEMA and by extension Politico in their defense, claiming that massive disinformation is running rampant, and yet they do not cite a single example of the disinformation they claim to exist. Seriously, no joke – GO LOOK.
If you are an intellectually honest observer of government, you are left with the question: where is this disinformation you speak of?
Most of the shared examples of FEMA’s failures have been with full citation, presented with factual information – raw source attribution and audio/visuals of FEMA officials on the ground in Eastern Tennessee and Western North Carolina to bolster the claims. In short, all the claims against FEMA are specifically cited; however, all of the deflective justifications and denials are not.
Perhaps this is simply the state of current federal government. Whereby, thousands of individual citizens are giving real-time examples of what FEMA is doing and not doing, while FEMA (from DC) claims all of the citations and examples are “disinformation.”
It is all very Orwellian, and reminds me of something:
“Alice: Would you tell me, please, which way I ought to go from here?
The Cheshire Cat: That depends a good deal on where you want to get to.
Alice: I don’t much care where.
The Cheshire Cat: Then it doesn’t much matter which way you go.
Alice: …So long as I get somewhere.
The Cheshire Cat: Oh, you’re sure to do that, if only you walk long enough.”
― Lewis Carroll, Alice in Wonderland
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Put another way, the people on the ground are telling the truth about the current state of affairs. The interests of FEMA are antithetical to the truth, so they label the truth “disinformation.” And that’s that.
Watch the water
https://www.msnbc.com/brian-williams/watch/pence-mirrors-trump-clearing-his-water-bottle-from-meeting-table-1250081347911
Why is this news. How petty they are. Twisting everything to push there narrative.
Not petty….stupid. Dumb.
I wouldn’t leave them my dna either.
Police your DNA just like you police your Brass because many things can be made to attract a single persons DNA
Nothing but a bunch of lying sack of shit govt idiots. The disinformation has ALWAYS come from the govt and the Marxist Socialist Morons (MSM).
FEMA – Fascist Evil Marxist A–holes…..
What is this all about?
Burnsville is in one of the hardest hit areas in NC. The great Cajun Navy has been working tirelessly from the very beginning and then this:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/10/disturbing-helicopter-pilots-wearing-military-headgear-sabotages-hurricane/
I saw the video of the black helicopters yesterday, Oct. 7 on Redacted’s broadcast. Clayton Morris said the rotor wash damaged/destroyed relief supplies. Also said that there was no radar record of the helicopters.
I don’t believe it’s OUR military.
Drug cartels now own DC & many state, county governments.
Bill Gates must be praying Tampa is demolished
Supposedly there were no markings on the Blackhawk and it was not claimed by the NC National guard or the active military.
It is possible it belongs to some other federal agency. For example the FBI operates a tactical-painted Blackhawk for their Hostage Rescue Team (HRT.) Customs and Border Enforcement has at least one but I think they are painted blue. A number of other agencies have Blackhawks as well – including various “three letter agencies” (wink wink.)
Or maybe it was one of the 33 we left behind in Afghanistan (wink wink again)
Surprise surprise! The Politico article doesn’t allow comments. I wonder why not?
<I wonder why not?>
No comment. 🙂
😂
Posting comments is the hallmark of Russian disinformation.
Why aren’t I 50 points ahead? – Ms. Dismal
Politico reporter ran article past Podesta, WikiLeaks reveals
“‘Please don’t . . . tell anyone I did this”
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/please-dont-tell-anyone-i-did-this-politico-reporter-ran-article-past-podesta-wikileaks-reveals
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/12/18/good-news-politico-is-rallying-support-for-mitch-mcconnell/
If Democrats didn’t lie they’d have nothing to say.
Now they are saying that the Kamala bucks are for emergency food, clothing, etc
You’ve got to apply, either by phone, app or driving to West Virginia FEMA office. Too bad if lines are down and if you’re cut off.
Application requires all sorts of personal data plus employment status, annual income, insurance, etc. any of which could disqualify you for help. FEMA website says if approved to wait 4-6 week for your check delivered by mail…and make sure you have a mailbox ready to receive.
Just heard today the problem is the staffing. Not enough FEMA bodies to go around to the 500 emergencies that need handling. So, is this similar to the US Secret Service where they can’t find enough people to tick off the right boxes? How far down is FEMA staffing compared to 2022>
No the damn reason is they hire single parents for jobs that are required to deploy. Now no one can deploy to the trouble areas because they are single parents. See the stupidity. The military has a lot of this same shit.
Now they are going to tell you they can deploy if they can take their child with them, of course the child will need per diem for temporary food and shelter. I see this bullshit coming a mile away.
They don’t have enough people! If they are refusing to travel and they agreed to do so when hired. Well you know that will never happen.
Only the gov’t slaves have to prove who they are. The new rules are for the invading hordes of illegal newcomers.
Day 2 after the storm we heard from local city officials about this offer for a quick emergency $750. When you first go to the FE MA site you have to register and create a login. Giving your life history(login recovery questions and answers and email) they then tell you check your email for a login link. If your lucky you get the link(email was snail pace when it worked for 6 days). Redirect occurs if your link works and now they ask you to verify that You are You with a text or call to numbers you previously gave them when you registered. Well!! We had no cell, land line or electricity for 8 days so any emergency help was useless as you could not verify 2 times. People looking at a Milton strike may want to go and register at the FeMA site before the storm hits.
More ID than required to vote.
The heading on the application likely reads Government BS. Please fill out in triplicate. If you pay taxes, you are ineligible. Every person filling out a form should claim to be an illegal alien or Ukrainian. That would move them to the front of the line!!
There is lots and lots of fedposting on x and other platforms about fema
I would argue the entire Helene timeline is a deliberate provocation to incite civil unrest leading into civil war
Checkout Appalachistan tag on x. Some legit but lots and lots of j6 style agit prop
https://x.com/hashtag/Appalachistan
I post this yet again ( 3rd thread ) because these hurricanes if contributed to by means other than naturally occurring conditions ( ya think?! ) then this for those unaware of the capability and technology possessed by our loving government? The Alex Jones program today on Infowars is on point.
They will steal the vote in NC and GA? My “Suspicious Cat” is lion sized – if not lionized.
Alex Jones ( yeah I know… ) is today doing a feature on his program Infowars on “Weather Warfare” and I know some think of him with disdain if not outright suspicion.
But he knows his stuff and on this topic. I can’t think of another to better explain the most basic aspects of weather manipulation. Like 20 years ago he had a former military guy on his show to explain the basics.
Government told the guy “quit it”. Thought to mention this, especially since the government is shutting Alex Jones essentially taking him off the air with a Trillion dollar judgment for speaking. Which is criminal and in direct contravention to our constitutionally protected FIRST AMENDMENT!!
But while he’s “still” on? The weather info he’s sharing today is solidly on point..
Weather warfare against us is far more likely than bestowing magical & mystical properties on CO2. I think between PDJT, MAGA voters, Christians,Putin, & CO2 they have all the Liberal hate bases covered to blame for all their ills and stopping them from reaching their “Utopia”
Colkitto! I’ve been suspicious regarding most/all anything the government has told me since the Warren Commission told me Oswald killed JFK.
A couple manufactured hurricanes, barely moves my needle of distrust for them owing to my default position. I believe that at the very least? some faction of the usurpers, has employed weather manipulation and directed it at my peoples. Because they don’t like us – don’t want us to vote, and probably more.
We battle against demons masquerading as principalities. Like John Kerry lecturing us on free speech” and yeah – “climate change”. It’s a mad mad world my friend.
Agreed!!!
My friend you are more right than you more than likely know. Its not the proper time for this discussion, but myself & a few others are right with you on your keen observation of us dealing with Demons. Ironically I just saw an episode about the Jimmy Page curse on Eddie & The Hot Rods, and it ironically furthered my knowledge of what we are really dealing with. My salutations and you are an abundance of information and great stories yourself.
How beautiful NC, & America really is. Nature is God’s artwork.
What a beautiful picture!
Finally – a Ford before my time 😉
Or timeless Ford, depending on what side of the wheel you’re on.
After reading historical articles I’d go back to the sinking of the USS Maine regarding gubmint lies.
THEY!!!! Have no Faith in God! End.
Thank you, reed. I will watch Alex Jones’ Oct. 7 & 8 programs.
Thanks aDoozy – Well worth your time ( I hope ). Jones claimed today while I was listening he will have Dane Wigington on Wednesday 10/9? of geoengineeringwatch.org
Dane is the “go to” meteorologist that MacGregor just interviewed and has been echoing the clarion call on all this stuff for a very long time. Wigington has great stuff on his site.
Just caught another climatista bobblehead on MSNBC saying how we are all going to die if we don’t shovel more money into halting climate and saying deniers are dealing in misinformation or was it disinformation. I have lost track. 20seconds was enough.
It’s crazy. How nuts they really are.
Colonel McGregor and Dane Wigginton on Helene
From the horse’s mouth, Weather modification reports:
https://library.noaa.gov/weather-climate/weather-modification-project-reports
The gatewaypundit had an interesting article:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/10/hold-marjorie-taylor-greene-was-right-yes-scientists/
Submission Information & Frequently Asked Questions
What is “weather modification”?
Any activity performed with the intention of producing artificial changes in the composition, behavior, or dynamics of the atmosphere. See 15 Code of Federal Regulations § 908) for what is considered weather modification.
(a) The following, when conducted as weather modification activities, shall be subject to reporting:
(1) Seeding or dispersing of any substance into clouds or fog, to alter drop size distribution, produce ice crystals or coagulation of droplets, alter the development of hail or lightning, or influence in any way the natural development cycle of clouds or their environment;
(2) Using fires or heat sources to influence convective circulation or to evaporate fog;
(3) Modifying the solar radiation exchange of the earth or clouds, through the release of gases, dusts, liquids, or aerosols into the atmosphere;
(4) Modifying the characteristics of land or water surfaces by dusting or treating with powders, liquid sprays, dyes, or other materials;
(5) Releasing electrically charged or radioactive particles, or ions, into the atmosphere;
(6) Applying shock waves, sonic energy sources, or other explosive or acoustic sources to the atmosphere;
After an announced cancellation of a Harvard solar dimming project in April, due to controversial positions on safety, another project moved forward. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/02/climate/global-warming-clouds-solar-geoengineering.html
No thought to how this could impact normal weather cycles.
Yes, I just linked a clip of NOAA”s portal for their outsourced vendors engaged in this very topic – and also saw MTG blasting out some truth. Good for her, and the public at large.
Side note: “they” sprayed the dog**** out of “us” here today, after quite some time ( months! ) with normal skies just baking heat. Trails Just atop in elevation from normal cloud cover. Anyone could see the difference in composition vs the long straight lines sprayed that eventually merge with the wispy chemical mixing into the cumulus clouds.
But that isn’t “hurricane” level stuff.
Bill stinking gates again…
https://www.theburningplatform.com/2024/10/08/gates-is-behind-it-all-there-are-no-coincidences/
I can’t help but feel strongly that there is manipulation in these hurricanes. I’m not an expert, and I live in earthquake land. But my spidey senses are tingling and too many bad apples are involved with the evil side in all this.
Thanks for the heads up. I’ll check out Info Wars.
I hear you! I don’t claim to have more than a passing understanding of the most rudimentary basics of this stuff – If even that!
So, please forgive me – I just know “what’s up”.
add: Yeah the Jones show was good for the weather segment(s). Millions are hearing that stuff. Some for the first time.
Remember how the left went crazy over
the Heritage Foundation’s Project 2025?
https://ntrl.ntis.gov/NTRL/dashboard/searchResults/titleDetail/ADA333462.xhtml
Maybe we should ask the weather experts about their Project 2025
fwiw
Operation Popeye was a military cloud-seeding project carried out by the U.S. Air Force during the Vietnam War in 1967–1972. The highly classified program attempted to extend the monsoon season over specific areas of the Ho Chi Minh Trail, in order to disrupt North Vietnamese military supplies by softening road surfaces and causing landslides.
Operation Popeye: How the US government turned the weather into a weapon of war…
https://revolver.news/2023/08/operation-popeye-how-the-us-government-turned-the-weather-into-a-weapon-of-war/
I suppose it’s references like that that frustrate me because I’ve known of these developments and the one you just referenced, literally for several decades. So, when I read of people dismissing these realities today!? and particularly relative to the fanciful timing and the landfall target zones of these most recent and ongoing hurricanes.. well.
All anyone would have to do is look this **** up. I did, and if I could? Anyone can.
Sounds like a “conspiracy reality” if you will..
Mis/dis/Mal information are made up words to shut
people up when one doesn;t like what they are saying
just as Misspeak/Misspoke is another way of saying
LIED.
The delay – an intra-agency dispute on who will get the grift from eventual aid.
Fema is DHS, SecretS is DHS, CISA is DHS. INS is DHS. Starting to see the picture?
Mayorkas ugly mug?
CUE BALL from CUBA
Who are you going to believe, psychotic leftist control freaks or your lying eyes?
Apparently our lying eyes are lying in NC.
Seems to me that the body count is low. Very low. Just a hunch – wink!
“The interests of FEMA are antithetical to the truth” –
As the interests of the government are antithetical to our survival.
We can rule out “coincidence” in the lack of response.
David Axelrod’s still grinning like that ‘ol Chesire Cat.
We have so many first responders going out to the communities that need help. That is what the lying beotch said.
Now she is saying only fema has first responders. This is so much lying trying to gain sympathy for her worthless ass that President Trump will fire on Day one.
I have no sympathy for these FEMA diversity slimes.
Ask them how many FEMA employees are required to deploy to disaster areas? How many are single parents?Then ask how many are deployed there right now?
I am dead serious about the next question, Does FEMA provide deployment Day care services for employees deployed on Disaster who are single Parents?
Are FEMA employees receiving Per Diem payments while deployed?
Are room and board provided while deployed? If so do they still receive Per Diem? If so how many will be prosecuted for fraud?
Can local LE and Sheriffs arrest FEMA idiots and throw them in jail?
Speaking of per diem…
FEMA sure knows how to live (it up) while deployed!
FEMA in Maui…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12430203/FEMA-officials-staying-luxury-Maui-hotels.html
So, an entire article complaining about disinformation when they could just counter the “disinformation” with “factual information”…….. or do they not want to (or can’t) do that?
That FEMA Karen looks like quite the treasonous and totalitarian whiner.
You wonder if all the goodie bags being distributed to the hurricane victims were or are delayed because they are waiting for Vote for Harris/Waltz pamphlets to be put in each bag? Something to ponder Patriots!
I’d be checking the expiration dates on any items distributed by FEMA. Even MREs have limited shelf life.
Yes, the gubmint has investigated itself & has found that YOU are the problem.
We have found the enemy and it is them.
From FEMA Administrator Deanne Criswell’s website (https://www.fema.gov/about/strategic-plan), here are the FEMA strategic goals for 2022 – 2026:
Goal 1: Instill equity as a foundation of emergency management
Goal 2: Lead whole of community in climate resilience
Goal 3: Promote and sustain a ready FEMA and prepared nation
These are the goals of a cultural marxist and have nothing to do with emergency response.
Preach the truth!
Goal 4. Study and Follow the teaching of Mao’s Little Red Book (not optional for continued employment) and learn all of Alinsky’s Rules For Radicals if promotion is desired!
FEMA goals are designed to instigate an emergency, not respond to one.
All Democrats have is lying and cheating.
Joe Bribe-em already knows how to get his 10% kickback from money sent to Ukraine. He didn’t have set up for Helene relief money.
Another lying “knucklehead.”
So so sick of these liars.
DEM 0f iniquity Deanne sez it all : “we have so many first responders that have been working to go out and help these communities” ; NOT Actually helping these people (but working to go out [like finding a pleasant spot and setting up a card table]).
And they’re waiting for the masses to apply for that $750.
“The Federal Government has no clothes!”
It’s a big club, but Americans ain’t in it.
Pay attention to the Sun of God.
It’s on video what our evil government just did to volunteers and the supplies they had just organized…IT’S INTENTIONAL:
T2020: That’s a European helicopter.
That’s even worse!!
Funny 🙂
Not thumbnail I would have made for that video…
The actual video of the incident shows a Blackhawk with no markings. They rotor-washed the heck out of a supply distribution point set up in a supermarket parking lot, hovering low and circling several times.
There are several versions of the clip. I think a longer one is from Redneck Airforce
The “racist” card expired due to over-use and abuse. So now there is the “disinformation card.” Yesterday, KJP had a press conference and accused Peter Doucy of “misinformation.” When he stood his ground, Karine then proclaimed that the “PREMISE” of his question was “misinformation.” – IOW – NOT his actual question.
These Leftists are diabolical.
…” Samaritans Purse putting FEMA to shame”….
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/10/dr-phil-travels-north-carolina-finds-franklin-grahams/
So is the Redneck Air Force and the Cajun Navy.
Just putting this out there: KJP is a Haitian. Now there are more illegal Haitians here than ever before.
If we don’t end this travesty to Our Constitution, to Our citizens, this is going to be the fall of the USA, like the fall of Rome.
And it will be just as ugly, with the Godless wreaking havoc on we the people.
Who’re the owners of disinformation; like saying the Hunter laptop was Russian disinformation, like saying Trump colluded with Russia to win?? Like pushing the pee pee tape as something real (tape bought and pushed by Hillary), like saying if you got the jab your body couldn’t play host to the virus??
Filthy, smarmy, low life, rodent Democrats OWN disinformation.
Let’s add to your disinformation list from filthy, smarmy, low life, rodent infested Democrats the famous words of Slick: “I did not have sex with that woman.”
“ It’s creating distrust in the federal government, but also the state government, ”
Tell it to the Sheriff who threatened to arrest a private helicopter pilot for rescuing trapped civilians.
All distrust of government is now justified after the litany of lies they have fed us.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/10/disturbing-helicopter-pilots-wearing-military-headgear-sabotages-hurricane/
Assistant Fire Chief.
Who appropriated himself the power to threaten arrest.
Famous forever now.
He is a punk jack who wanted his 5 min. of fame by being in charge and wanted everyone to kiss his azz and get his permission before they could do anything. People like that punk are useless in a situation requiring real leadership skills. And his sorry azz boss defended his actions. Both need to be fired.
If you grew up in Appalachia you already had a healthy suspicion of the government, and ironically knew you were poor enough and with so few options that military service and a government job seemed like a way out.
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Remember how we have been TARGETS and VICTIMS of their lies – for generations???
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The only black face i have seen helping in the NC mts. Is Mark Robinson, NC LT. GOV.
I don’t see any LBQTBFZIDBPOWVCZX groups contributing a damn thing.
The Nameless War but with a key twist.
The question is, What does disinformation have to do with helping people on the ground? If FEMA trucks and tents and supplies are set up, are victims walking past the the free water and MRI’s and sleeping bags and shelters because they don’t believe FEMA is really there?
Those that vote Democrat, this election, last election, registered, independent, RINO, are whack jobs. Stay away.
This is a hoot from Epoch Times headline:
Biden Says DeSantis ‘Cooperative’ Ahead of Hurricane Milton Landfall Amid Harris Controversy
I have pics of PALLETS of bottled water and packaged meals that sat in a side street on St. Pete Beach Saturday and Sunday. No one handing them out, no sign to take one. Can’t say it was FEMA stuff for sure but don’t know where else it would have come from
I’m sure it’s still there and destined to be fish food. Or slam into someone’s house.
The debris left on the island as of Sunday is incredible. Ron dropped the ball on getting that into high gear so late.
Storm ravaged survivors helping themselves to unmanned survival goods without fedgov say so might catch a charge or two here in Bizzaro World..
Work by the federal government? Would that be tucking the FEMA truck around a corner for people to sign up for aid when they have no clue where FEMA hid the truck? I know that they said that they had announcements on radio and tv. Earth to FEMA. Maybe tvs and radios work in DC without electricity but in NC they don’t! What about military search and rescue? At one point there were military search and rescue teams at Fort Bragg. Sure it’s a hundred fifty or two hundred miles away but last I saw Pope had changed from Pope Air Force Base to Pope Army Air Field. Did they tear down the runways or give all the planes to Afghanistan? $700 or $750? either way is a slap in the face for a family. Hopefully every family in the Blue Ridge will declare themselves to be illegal aliens so they can get a hotel room, gift card, cell phone and the other perks! Alas, the mistake Americans have made is paying taxes. Once they get your number, the IRS and the rest of the government is like the interminable spam calls and sales pitches. Useless at best but always despicable!
So, speaking of FEMA…
The Greeneville Sun reports today that during a presser at the mayor’s office, he announced some (didn’t say how many) agents are in Greeneville to “help the good folks” yada yada but does not say where to meet them for said help.
The FEMA agent in the presser tells them to go online or call a gov’t phone number to pre-register for assistance. “Additional agents will be arriving soon; over the next few weeks to gather additional info.”
There was zero mention of where these agents are staying, where they are setting up operations or if they’re working on anything anywhere.
The mayor goes on to specifically note the he is certain neither FEMA or TEMA is interfering with and or confiscating any volunteer relief operations…
So there’s that.
In other news, the 101st Airborne from Bragg is in town hanging out at the Greeneville airport. More than a dozen really big helicopters.
Mind you, not doing anything, like a fireman told me yesterday they were supposedly doing.
Nope the birds are parked, awaiting orders from DOD. Deployed only means you are told to fly from point A to point B.
Orders are a separate thing.
So there’s that..
It was 37 degrees in the mountains last night.
If FEMA was doing the bang-up job, they claim they are doing, then we would be seeing the heroic efforts plastered all over every network and cable news channel. I trust the people who live there and are experiencing this in real-time more so than someone in a climate-controlled office sitting at a computer or standing at a podium inside the city of Washington, DC.
Apologies if this had already been posted. FEMA sent pallets of ELECTRIC chainsaws to areas without power!
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1843659462789476385.html
Yeah…and the generators that will charge them will get there as soon as the roads are cleared….
Wow. These people have no f****** idea what they are doing do they, sir?
They’re saving the climate, that’s what they’re doing!
lol…no, they know EXACTLY what they are doing….
NO MERCY
And the roads that were washed away are rebuilt.
Of course, my comment was one born of sarcasm mixed with the reality of the worthless goobermint logistical planning.
Wait until they erase whole events from the history books.
Hurricane Helene? What Hurricane Helene?
Nothing happened. Don’t believe the red necks. What happens in the Appalachians never happened at all.
Also — if you dispute the ‘facts’ there is always a jail waiting to reeducate you.
Thank you, Sundance, for the excellent reporting and analysis
Someone needs a knuckle sandwich, or fat lip to bring the truth out.
..and here’s some real BS if anyone is interested
https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2024/10/04/fema-hurricane-helene-
relief-money-misinformation-conspiracies/
The government is disinformation!
This clip by user Dutchsinse on YT who has been covering anomalous weather events for many years ( that I’ve known ) has recently posted on some weather mod stuff owing to the hurricanes.
Here is a clip depiciting NOAA’s “portal” website for their vendors engaged in “weather modification” ( their wording ).
https://rumble.com/v5hxcd9-hurricane-milton-obvious-weather-modification-taking-place-dutchsinse.html
a more detailed one of Helene is the first – below clip explains “some” of the technology involved.
That was my favorite critter too! The evil pangolin lol
Remember that President of Tanzania, wasn’t it? Tested a grapefruit, a goat and a “pawpaw” and all tested positive lol. After announcing the CV19 testing scam to the world?
Magufuli died on 17 March 2021 at 6 p.m. EAT (15:00 UTC), according to a statement read out by vice-president Samia Suluhu Hassan, who was sworn in as his successor two days later. He was the only President of Tanzania to die in office.
MSM called him the “Covid Denying President”. Happens all the time. They just “die”.
Like Kary Mullis. The PCR test inventor that lambasted Fauci for advocating the use of the PCR test saying “it’s not designed to test for that etc”
He died shortly after that criticism too. Happens all the time. They just die.
I seriously think this is the reason to form militias now. Not just the local security aspect, but emergency response and creating a cooperative for cross training.