Flooding and high water continue being a serious problem as former Hurricane Helene dumps massive amounts of rain.
Fast moving Helene made landfall about 10 miles west-southwest of Perry, Florida, at 11:10 pm last evening. Helene came ashore as a Cat-4 storm with over 120 mph sustained winds. Seven fatalities have been reported. Following the storm surge, impacts are now being felt across the Southeast and into portions of the mid-Atlantic as the storm pushes farther inland and weakens.
The greatest ongoing threat from Helene’s activity continues to be flash flooding as torrential rain falls throughout the southeast, impacting rivers and pushing streams onto roads and into communities, sometimes trapping residents.
According to Fox News Weather, “The flash flood threat stretches from the Southeast into the mid-Atlantic, where multiple Flash Flood Emergencies were issued early Friday morning, including the first-ever Flash Flood Emergency issued for Atlanta.
At least seven other Flash Flood Emergencies were also issued in western North Carolina from Asheville to the Charlotte area.
According to a post on X from Haywood County Emergency Services, residents in portions of Waynesville, North Carolina, are being told to evacuate because of the potentially deadly situation that’s unfolding. (more)
Treepers in the affected areas, please use this thread to update your personal condition. Also, all long time Treepers understand you can reach out via email if you need assistance, and we will do our earnest best to assist and/or connect you with resources.
1,500 search and rescue responders are active right now just in Florida. If you are in an impact zone, do not go looking around, be careful. There is a great video below, a press conference from moments ago, that contains excellent information for those in the impact zone. Please watch it.
Due to the speed of the storm, there are convoys coming to construct a pre-planned electricity grid recovery process.
Convoys from every city, town and state from the east-coast to the mid-west. A glorious melding of dirty fingernails all arriving for the meet-up. Depending on your proximity to the bigger picture objectives at hand, you will cherish their arrival.
But first, there will be an assessment. The convoys will stage at pre-determined locations using radios for communication. Most cell phone services will likely be knocked out.
Recovery teams will begin a street-by-street review; everything needs to be evaluated prior to thinking about beginning to rebuild a grid. Your patience within this process is needed; heck, it ain’t like you’ve got a choice in the matter…. so just stay positive.
Meanwhile, you might walk outside and find yourself a stranger in your neighborhood. It will all be cattywampus.
Trees gone, signs gone, crap everywhere, if you don’t need to travel, DON’T.
I mean CRAP e.v.e.r.y.w.h.e.r.e.
Stay away from powerlines.
Try to stay within your immediate neighborhood for the first 36-48 hours. Keep the roadways and main arteries clear for recovery workers, power companies and fuel trucks.
Be entirely prepared to be lost in your own neighborhood and town for days, weeks, and even months. Unknown to you – your subconscious mind is like a human GPS mapping system. When that raging Helene takes away the subconscious landmarks, I guarantee you – you are gonna get lost, make wrong turns, miss the exit etc.
It’s kinda funny and weird at the same time.
Your brain is wired to turn left at the big oak next to the Church, and the road to your house is likely two streets past the 7-11 or Circle-k. You don’t even notice that’s how you travel around town; that’s just your brain working – it is what it is.
Well, now the big oak is gone; so too is the Circle-K and 7-11 signs. Like I said, everything is cattywampus. Your brain-memory will need to reboot and rewire. In the interim, you’re going to get lost… don’t get frustrated.
No street signs. Likely no stop signs. No traffic lights.
Remember, when it is safe to drive, every single intersection must be treated like a four-way stop…. and YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION. Even the major intersections.
You’ll need to override your brain tendency to use memory in transit. You’ll need to pay close attention and watch for those who are not paying close attention. Travel sparingly, it’s just safer.
Check on your-self first, then your neighbors. It doesn’t matter if you’ve never said a word to the guy in the blue house before. It isn’t normalville now.
Break out of your box and check on the blue house down the street too. In the aftermath, there’s no class structure. Without power, the big fancy house on the corner with a pool is just a bigger mess. Everyone is equally a mess.
The first responders in your neighborhood are YOU.
You, the wife, your family, Mrs. Wilson next door; Joe down the street; Bob’s twin boys and the gal with the red car are all in this together. If you don’t ordinarily cotton to toxic masculinity, you will worship it in the aftermath of a hurricane. Git-r-done lives there.
Don’t stand around griping with a 40′ tree blocking the main road to your neighborhood. Figure out who’s got chainsaws, who knows how to correctly use them, and set about safely clearing the road. If every neighborhood starts clearing their own roadways, the recovery crews can then move in for the details.
Stage one focuses on major arteries… then secondary… then neighborhood etc. It’s a process. Oh, and don’t get mad if your fancy mailbox is ploughed over by a focused front-end loader who is on a priority mission to clear a path. Just deal with it. Those same front-end loaders will also be removing feet of sand from coastal roads. Don’t go sightseeing… stay in your neighborhood.
For the first 36-48 hours, please try to stay close to home, in your neighborhood. Another reason to stay close to home is the sketchy people who can sometimes surface, looters etc. Staying close to home and having contact with your neighbors is just reasonable and safer.
Phase-1 recovery is necessarily, well, scruffy…. we’re just moving and managing the mess; not trying to clean it up yet. It’ll be ok. There are going to be roofing nails everywhere, and you will likely get multiple flat tires in the weeks after the hurricane.
After this storm half of the people living near the Big Bend are going to fit into two categories, two types of people: (1) those with a new roof; or (2) those with a blue roof (tarp).
Keep a joyous heart filled with thankfulness; and if you can’t muster it, then just pretend. Don’t be a jerk. You will be surrounded by jerks…. elevate yourself. If you need to do a few minutes of cussing, take a walk. Keep your wits about you and stay calm.
Now, when the recovery teams arrive…. If you are on the road and there’s a convoy of utility trucks on the road, pull over. Treat power trucks and tanker trucks like ambulances and emergency vehicles. Pull over, give them a clear road and let them pass.
When everyone gets to work, if you see a lineman, pole-digger or crew say thanks. Just simple “thanks”. Wave at them and give them a thumb-up. No need to get unnecessarily familiar, a simple: “thank you for your help” will suffice. You know, ordinary people skills.
Many of these smaller crews will be sleeping in cots, or in their trucks while they are working never-ending shifts. Some will be staging at evacuation shelters, likely schools and such. The need to shelter people and recovery crews might also delay the re-opening of schools.
Once you eventually start getting power back, if you see a crew in a restaurant, same thing applies… “thanks guys”.
Same goes for the tanker truckers. The convenience stores with gas pumps are part of the priority network. Those will get power before other locales without power. Fuel outlets are a priority. Fuel is the lifeblood of recovery. Hospitals, first responders, emergency facilities, fuel outlets, then comes commercial and residential.
Remember, this is important – YOU are the first responder for your neighborhood. Don’t quit. Recovery is a process. Depending on the scale of the impact zone, the process can take days, weeks and even months.
Take care of your family first; then friends and neighborhood, and generally make a conscious decision to be a part of any needed solution.
Pray together and be strong together. It might sound goofy to some, but don’t be bashful about being openly thankful in prayer.
It will be ok.
It might be a massive pain in the a**, but in the end, it’ll be ok.
Governor Ron DeSantis has some great information and advice in this press conference this morning.

Hart County, Ga… on the lake, in the woods….
High winds have settled down, in fact sun keeps trying to shine through..
Lost power 6 am, tree down in our private road earlier; should be cleared up soon .
We have a gas powered generator, which works great!!
Waiting for power to be restored; more outside crew were called in.
Thankful. Be safe. God speed.
The entire town of Newport TN is being evacuated as we speak because the Waterville Dam failed. The French Broad River has risen over 20′ in a couple of hours.
Holy moly..😳
20′ in an hour? That’s incredible!
Yikes 😳
Over the course of just a few hours.
There are conflicting on the ground reports, from what I gather the spillway gates are stuck open and that is what the town is reporting as failed. Still trying to get more accurate info. However, the whole town is being ordered to evacuate.
The Pigeon River is at 28 feet on the southeast side of Newport – major flood stage is 12 feet.
Meanwhile housing are floating away in the greater Asheville area.
That’s “failed enough.” This amount of water can simply overwhelm even the best-designed dam.
A very similar thing almost happened in Nashville a few years ago. When 17″ of rain fell on one day, and another 17″ the very next day. 😱 They were fighting hard to save the Percy Priest Dam, among many others.
Fortunately for all of us, they did. But levees failed everywhere – no, they didn’t fail, they just got run over. (Once the waters receded, most of the structures were still intact.) There’s only so much that you can “engineer” for.
Cook County, South Georgia
The eye passed very close to our home. Lots of wind and enough rain to wash out dirt roads. We sustained no damage, but are without power. Latest estimates are 7-10 days (or longer) before power is restored. There are many roads blocked by downed trees and power lines, so we won’t be going anywhere for at least a few days. We live in a rural area and will be relying on our Class A RV with a generator for refrigeration and AC. We ran an extension cord to the Starlink router to have connection with the world since cell service in our area is very poor.
In the past 13 months, this area of South Georgia/North Florida has been hit by three significant hurricanes: Idalia (some people still haven’t made repairs from that storm), Debby, and Helene.
Glad to hear you’re alright and have sustained minimal damage to your property. Thank God you have an RV and a good generator. Hopefully power will be restored much faster than predicted.
Hang in there!
Glad you are safe. Be patient. Blessings
Sitting between Perry Fl and Madison this is the 3rd hurricane in a little over a year.
I sat last night in my tiny house and prayed for hours but especially when the eye went over and winds gusted over 100mph.
Before the storm I placed a rosary on the outside doors. I do this each hurricane.
No structure damage but so many trees.
By the grace of God.
Be safe. An RV and generator, a good dual purpose necessity 🙂
I am good 20 Miles NE of Tampa… 39 mile wind some small tree branches 1.75 inches of rain
The muscle/brain memory thing is so true.
Having things change abruptly and unexpectedly in a minute really messes you up until you get used to the new situation, which can take a while.
Had it happen after a house fire.> Reaching for light switches that weren’t there, etc etc.
This is the main reason why I think it’s smart for elderly people to get settled in to wherever they’re going to be living their lives out, sooner rather than later.
So yeah, drive sloooow until you get used to the new landscape.
Local news said 140 trees down in Jacksonville, FL. Plus street lights, etc.
That thing was massive, stretched across the whole state.
Sunnydaze you remember last night’s thread, you were commenting about the tornadoes in your area (VA, I think?) and I replied you about the warning for Roanoake and Franklin counties that had just dropped then?… – So iirc, that was right around either when the front eyewall was making landfall or just reaching Perry, and that’s like, what (FL > VA), 5-600 miles?
So it looked to me like a lot of the tornado activity, other than that actually within Florida, seemed to be in the NE quadrant but *waayyy* out on the flanks. So I’m watching Ryan Hall’s stream (Hat’s off to that guy, btw – Stallion was streaming for *14 1/2 hours* straight, in the end!) and between around landfall and, I guess, it reaching Valdosta, I counted at least two waterspouts – one headed toward Savannah GA, the other headed toward Beaufort SC, that both came in off the *Atlantic*… – Is that at all normal for one coming through the Gulf of Mexico, even by Cat-4 standards?
…- Oh, and I just heard somewheres earlier this evening, on one feed or other, someone said this one was *much bigger* than Ian – Seriously!?
Love Ryan Hall Y’all, best weatherman in the U.S.
I don’t know how to post just the video without the whole article.
Watch: Man, dog rescued from struggling sailboat as waves crash during Hurricane Helene
A dramatic video captured by a body-worn camera shows a Coast Guard aviation survival technician in action during the daring rescue.
https://www.foxweather.com/extreme-weather/video-coast-guard-dramatic-rescue-sanibel-island-florida-clearwater
This was such a heart-warming story. The dog “knew” he was being saved and was extremely cooperative with his Coast Guard rescuers.
YEAH, COAST GUARD!
Thank you for the video. It is so hard to image. Reality brings tears. Take care. Be safe. Blessings.
Praying for everyone affected by the hurricane.
Praying for all of you enduring another scary huricane. May God protect you all.
Tampa here. We’re fine (just debris) but our elderly aunt and uncle have lost everything due to flooding. Making matters worse – no insurance and uncle has cancer and Alzheimer’s. Truly devastating and heartbreaking.
Please continue praying for everyone affected.
I will be praying. I am so sorry to hear this. Blessings.
Thank you GNanny. Your prayers are very much needed and appreciated by so many right now.
Person County, North Central NC; 35-40 mph wind before rain started, wind slowed and rained 2 imches in 20 minutes, 15 minutes –sunshine. In 40 miles of errands, only 1 small tree down into road. Was able to top it quickly to get both sides of road open. Sister in Greenwood, SC has no power and several trees down in her driveway.
Our fellow Treeper little flower lives in the Asheville, NC area. Asheville is accessible by air only now. Asking for prayers. I hope we hear from her soon.
Prayers.
Almost all roads Western Nc closed or impassable. A very dangerous situation.
My daughter and her BF lost everything in the surge on the water in Redington Shores. My son lost both Jeeps to the surge at Indian Rocks. The beaches are gone from Ft Meyers north.
I’ve seen photos from Siesta Key, Anna Maria Island, all the way up to Clearwater. When you say “the beaches are gone,” you are not exaggerating. The barrier islands are devastated.
Sad but true. I’m in Treasure Island, and the whole island was underwater. Can’t get in or out by car because Gulf Blvd. the road connecting the barrier islands is covered with sand and impassable.
It’s 8:45 pm right now in middle SC. no power nor will we have any for a week. 4 snapped power poles, lines all down on our 1 mile long dead end road. Many trees down, we think a tornado hit one part of the road, trees twisted. Thank God great neighbors, all helping get trees cut up, road cleared. Generators and chainsaws is all we hear, lol. I’m a prepper so not a bad situation for our house. Stay safe everyone affected.
The mountain towns and cities in western North Carolina and some of East Tennessee are devastated by floods. Never before kinda floods in many, many places. There used to be dozens of campgrounds in those valleys but they’re gone. Interstate 40 was washed out by the Pigeon River. The receding waters are revealing the absence of roads. Lots of places are cut off. Still unfolding.
I’m in the Upstate of SC. Greenville/Spartanburg area. We had wind gusts, I’m told, up to 70 mph. Greenville/Spartanburg International recorded mid-60’s mph. We got around 7-8 inches of rain last night until around noon today.
My neighborhood is nearly impassible. Large old trees down on most streets. Some did cause damage to homes. We only had minor trees limbs in our yard and I don’t know a single soul with power. We have a generator, so we’re pretty normal…other than I feel kinda guilty. I keep offering showers to neighbors who don’t have generators.
I haven’t seen one single power company truck or tree remover. I don’t expect to any time soon, since there are so many trees down and power outages over such a large area. Son’s girlfriend just came over to take up my shower offer. While letting her dog outside to “tend her business”, we heard two transformers blow…somewhere. I guess soggy trees are still falling.
We have family just past Caesars Head, SC. Can’t get in touch with them, but heard through the family grapevine that they don’t have cell service. Their son is getting married next Saturday up there and I don’t know if we’ll have power there by then. Our son and his family are flying into Asheville on Wednesday. I don’t know what to expect. We also have a house up there and have no idea if everything is okay or not. From SC Hwy.11’s turnoff onto 276 (twisty road) up to DuPont Forest is closed. Yeah well, our house is on that road.
Holy cow. It’s a mess, but we’re all safe.
Let me add, my problems are very small compared to people who have lost their lives, their homes and their businesses. I’m praying for all of them. Heartbreaking.
We bugged out of the disaster zone. I have never such widespread power failures. I have seen more physically destructive storms, like hurricane fran, but nothing like the complete loss of power. Lauren county is a complete loss. It really hard to describe. Again, it is not the physical destruction -and there is plenty- the electrical infrastructure is reduced to nothing everywhere.
We got the hell out and crashed with relatives outside the zone. I did not think about looters. That thought escaped me. At any rate, everybody is so heavily armed that it would be nice to thin out the criminal element when they sneak into our homes. It is silly how many weapons people have. I love it.
Oh! Upstate sc below greenville
Nothing on the WH pages.
No real public announcements.
Just one reference, almost as an aside, by a drunk communist.
Dozens dead as Helene unleashes life-threatening flooding and knocks out power to millions across Southeast
https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/28/weather/hurricane-helene-florida-georgia-carolinas/index.html
Anyone know conditions in Mountains of North Carolina? and if they are letting people come in or if they have the roads cut off? I’m hearing some parts got 20-30 inches of rain, and all the customers in one electric company (French Broad Electric Serves Mars Hill, Mashall, Hot Springs and others) are without power with no eta on fixing it due to all incoming power to their grid not working .
Counties Yancey, Madison, Mitchell NC
No I don’t. I’m a Midwesterner
There’s only one recent video from WE LOS Nesa 13, the ABC affiliate
I’ll try to find another local station from North Carolina
Watch “WLOS News 13” on YouTube
https://youtube.com/@abc13channel?si=tjR-SNcqdsXkdYwJ
Buncombe County Government Helene Update” on YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/live/CXof_bupMto?si=8dtvObYdAlT0d_9Y
Spell check totally garbled WLOS NEWS 13
SORRY about that in the first post.
We were lucky – being in northwest Georgia. We got 7-1/2″ of rain in 12 hours, but power was never cut off here. There were no storms: only torrential rain. We live on a hill, so we can’t be flooded out. (But our driveway came close …) The thereafter-predicted high winds never came.
Just to the east of us, however, it was very different. Very considerably more rain in the same amount of time. Flood-control structures and dams can simply be overwhelmed by water that exceeds their “100-year” designs. (As happened a few years ago in Nashville, Tennessee.)
We left our home in Havana w our dog and 2 cats. Passed thriugh Taylor County on Alternate 27 in the way to stay w family in Gainesville. Taylor County had a lot of residual damage from Idalia. Thursday night Gainesville had a pretty strong tropical storm winds (fair amount of trees down and power outages) Headed home Friday at noon (hwy 441 then I10 west). Only one gas station north of gainesville had power and gas. Crazy busy. I10 had been cleared beautifully – thanks to a great governor and emergency management. Madison County was hit hard – many many downed trees. Jefferson County not so bad. The west side of the county even better. Leon County looked very good. Then headed up to Havana in Gadsden County. There were 3 twigs in the back yard. The light aluminum bowl on top of the gazebo hadnt moved an inch! So a slight nudge (of the storm) to the east made a big difference. Prayers for Steinhatchee, Taylor and Madison Counties, Cedar Key. It’s such a great part of “Old Florida”
The Cackling Communist from a few years back explains how she thinks disaster aid should be rationed…
Interview with a Charlotte, NC area man who was rescued by boat produces something quite different than what the media wanted…
Reporting from Treasure Island FL. Devastation here is massive. We had 5 ft of water inside our house and have lost everything that isn’t 6 ft above the ground – both vehicles, our generator, a/c unit, pool pump/filter, all appliances, all our , clothes
– everything that works on a current is fried. covered with disgusting smelly salt water.
The entire island has been closed since Friday night. No electricity, water, or internet. On a more positive note, all the neighbors who rode out the storm have banded together to help one another and look out for the elderly couple down the block.
We’re weary but thankful to have survived. It’s like living a nightmare that you wake up to in the morning.
We live in Clearwater Beach, Sand Key, and the condo buildings here along with a small commercial area of restaurants and small shops were inundated with water and mucky mud. Hundreds of cars parking in ground level open garages will take time to be towed. We sit at 13 feet above sea level with beaches on the Gulf side and the inner coastal on the the East side of the island. 40 cars in the garage trashed, but everyone who lives or stays here was and is safe. It will take time to get cars hauled away (insurance companies) and new cars delivered or Uber somewhere when it is the time. Only one person died (heart attack). The clean up of mud on the ground floors was/is exhausting but we love this place and this was probably a 50-100 year event. God Bless the police, sheriff, first responders, and residents to get things cleaned up. The totaled cars will take time, but everyone is working hard as it is one of the most beautiful beach communities in the world. This morning a light rain will wash away the remaining dirt and dust. The agencies who cleared mud that covered Gulf Blvd. with all the mud was extraordinary. All condo residents working on cleaning and clearing their properties. Thanking God for everything. Feeling blessed! Amen.