The transparency of intent is crystal clear for the non-pretenders. Ultimately, it’s all about controlling information.
The United States Dept of Justice (Lawfare), following an investigation by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) now assert that the Telegram communications app was/is central to efforts of a White Supremist movement in the USA.
Following the EU effort to destroy Telegram via the arrest of the founder and CEO Pavel Durov, the USA adds our customary racism flavoring to the narrative du jour, and the IC outlines support for Telegram removal.
WASHINGTON – U.S. prosecutors unveiled criminal charges on Monday against two alleged leaders of a white supremacist gang, saying they used the Telegram social media site to solicit attacks on Black, Jewish, LGBTQ people and immigrants aiming to incite a race war.
The group, dubbed “The Terrorgram Collective,” used the site to celebrate white supremacist attacks around the world and solicit racially motivated violence, prosecutors said in an indictment unsealed in federal court in Sacramento, California.
Dallas Humber, 34, of Elk Grove, California, and Matthew Allison, 37, of Boise, Idaho, each face 15 criminal counts, including soliciting hate crimes and conspiring to provide material support to terrorism. (read more)
Sounds exactly like other FBI fabricated fake crimes like the Russian Collusion Dossier hoax, the Wisconsin Governor kidnap plot with the leader living in a vacuum repair shop and the 70 IQ Hispanic guy in Florida living in his van and mailing “Energetic material capable of combustion when lite with a flamethrower” to a Democrat Congressional Committee.
All Democrat funded hoaxes dutifully activated by the FBI for their masters.
I used Telegram a few months ago to get help for some cellphone customization. First and only time (probably the last). So am I now in the bullseye for a “terrorism” watchlist?
Way Too Creepy for this old man.
Funny thing, the point man for the info I needed was a Palestinian. Of the radical sort, per his signature.
The irony is booming like that sound system in Close Encounters Of the Third Kind.
Way Too Creepy AKA WTC?
Don’t worry, by reading/commenting here, you’re already on a list someplace. This isn’t any different.
I follow lots of folks on Telegram; it’s an effective tool for getting around internet (specifically social media) censorship. I’m on it almost every day.
If they can’t control it, they must destroy it.
The irony of a corrupt government that seeks to divide the country on a daily basis to accuse a couple of guys of “aiming to incite a race war” is rich.
Once you see the strings you cannot ever not see them again.
Remember that dude “Charley” back in the 60s? Him and his hippie chicks wants to start a race war, it must be true I saw it on TV and they wrote a book about it. That’s wierd.
Only “rascists” I have known, were Democrat libtards,…I used to have one as a neighbor, like Archie Bunker only not funny, the other is my loonie leftist sister.
And neither use telegram, so theres that.
I got a looney left sister too. She kept telling me RFK ate road kill he collected. I let go for a while just too see how hysterical I could make her. When I told her he had falcons and they are the roadkill she would not concede. Thats how they are batwings loco.
The DOJ and IC should be thanking Telegram for exposing those 2!!?? Individuals and being able to shut down “The Terrorgram Collective” rather than shutting down Telegram!? So two white supremacists can shut Telegram used by millions worldwide? Aren’t Google, Facebook, YouTube and other Big Social Media platforms are also used by white supremacists? That’s my guess but those are unaffected because the FBI/IC already control them! But not Telegram which is the real problem the white supremacists are just another ruse to get control of Telegram by the FBI/IC if not shut it down! Are we next? Just wondering since supporters of President Trump are considered Domestic Extremists? God help us!!! Godspeed Sundance!!!
But your identity is protected on Telegram unlike those other social media accounts. 👀
And it’s decentralized; you only find people or platforms you already know. Really not as easy to find these by their handles unless you are on a particular “channel.”
The are treating it like and monitoring it like they do 4Chan.
Good point.
Hadn’t thought about that.
“….. solicit attacks on Black, LBGTQ, Jewish and immigrants aiming to incite a race war.”
Which race? Black, brown, Asian? All of them?
LGBTQ: Target only those races above but not white LBGTQ?
And Jewish is an ethnicity and religion that is overwhelmingly white. Are they now a separate ‘race?’
WTH are they taking about?
“… conspiring to provide material support to terrorism.”
What materials? Are these 2 30 somethings rich and have stockpiles of materials? And if so, where is all the media coverage of their cache of ‘materials?’
OMG. What a crock of 💩!
Yeah, hispanics USED to be white, as in Caucasian,…just like Kamala USED to be India/Indian, until she became Black over night .
Exactly!!! “RACE White ETHNICITY Not Hispanic or Latino” is how I am categorized by my Cardiologist. I would draw from that there are patients who are “RACE White ETHNICITY Hispanic or Latino”?
How decedents of Spain became a minority and no other Europeans from other countries in Europe got that designation is beyond me!! I mean even George Zimmerman was a “white” Hispanic as determined by the IC run msm!!! So confusing some Hispanics are white and some are a POC? My guess is Hispanics that are conservative are white and Hispanics that vote for Democrats are POC!!!
Agree!
The sh…ummmm..stuff🤣 is so
high and deep with this new
propaganda narrative……
I need to get my boots 👢 on.
Appears to me they are getting desperate…
they are getting sloppy.
Or maybe people are getting smarter—-
more people recognize the propaganda
and BS stories each time they attempt them.
👏👏👏👏 Good.👍👍👍👍
This is why the FBI has not been investigating the attempted assassination of Trump…too many white supremacists marching to round up.
They always seem to find the “white supremacy” handy during election season.
Meanwhile across the country, violent gangs fron Venezuela, Haiti, the ME, and other countries are terrorizing, raping, assaulting, stealing from, and murdering American civilians.
That’s easy to do when every white person in America who isn’t a Democrat is a “white supremacist” by default!!! JMO
Andddd you forgot – EATING their pets and local wildlife!
Why does this operation sound like a bad joke from 4Chan
This issue is on the front burner to thwart any attempt for people to organize into any resistance either prior or post election.
They want to know what people are up to after they screw us over
Hmmm….I thought Telegram was “encrypted”.
Silly me.
This is such nonsense. Perhaps there such a group with bad goals, but that is nothing compared to what the federal govt is doing. A distraction in my mind.
White Supremacy is just an idea, like AntiFa.
Antifa goons must use some form of social media to communicate with each other.
How else would they all know when to show up at the same place and time?
Oddly, the FBI can’t seem to find THEM.
What platforms or devices were utilized to orchestrate the appearance of pallets of bricks on street corners during the vandalism of American cities during the summer of 2020?
They can’t find them because they are communicating on the governments own servers…they use the internal email, IM etc that the three letter agencies and deep state use. There is no “finding” needed because the finders are the findees.
When will it come out that both individuals were fib informants? Similarly, when will it come out that the two Russians funding the media were getting their money from three letter agencies? Neither will surprise me. Nor will it surprise me when the Kentucky shooter targeting cars turns out to be the same. The government war against the first and second amendments is just warming up.
I wonder if the “White Supremacist Terrorgram Collective” were wearing khaki color pants? 🤔
Even the name of the group shouts khaki pants.
And medium blue short sleeve polo shirts.
The real issue here is free speech and encryption. Unbreakable communications encryption is a literal death threat to every government and NGO in the world seeking the ability to control free speech. They incite the fear of white nationalism, criminal organizations, and Islamic terrorism to entice the ignorant and or willfully unknowing to give them the ability to track every form of electronic communication …including yours.
The “Patriot Act” is their biggest success to date.
Watch what is happening now in Brazil vs Musk if you want to see what is coming to the US in a Harris administration.
And right before tonight’s debate. Isn’t that an amazing coincidence??!! “Terrorgram Collective”??? Seriously?? One person in Idaho? Where the Tech CEOs and Feds meet every year???? Oh, and they can conveniently ask President Trump once again “do you renounce on live television white supremacists?” May they choke on their lies and deceit.
Lol. “The Terrorgram Collective”? Really? Lol.
The FBStasi isn’t hiring the best and brightest leftists are they?
It’s annoying enough that they continue with this nonsense. What really infuriates me, though, is the contempt for the intelligence of the average American they show with it.
Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right. Here I am, stuck in the US with you.
OK, I’ll admit it, I’m a beige supremacist.
I think it is the superior color of wall paint for various reasons otherwise we wouldn’t see it everywhere.
I’m sure they got warrants. /s
Yep. I drove a Buick to rob a black bank. Arrest the CEO of GM for armed robbery and shutter the company while you’re at it.
Anybody remember Tom Metzger So Cal back in the 80s? Ran White Aryan Resistance, lost a big civil suit related to a murder in Portland OR.
(Wiki) Metzger changed political parties several times and sometimes created his own. In 1980, he won the Democratic Party nomination for the U.S. House of Representatives with over 40,000 votes in a San Diego–area district.[41] This led to the Democratic Party to disavow his candidacy, and take the unusual step of endorsing his opponent, Republican Clair Burgener.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Metzger
Upon reflection: Metzger lived in Fallbrook, back gate of Camp Pendleton. Fallbrook is San Diego County. Pendleton is Orange County.
During this time frame the dems flipped Orange County blue. Orange was the most solidly Republican county in the nation at the time. Loretta Sanchez took it and is still in the house.
That’s weird.
Camp Pendleton is in San Diego County
Yes. I should have said abuts orange.
These white supremacists are SERIOUSLY good at staying out of the news. I have to wonder how they do that?! All of the chaos and mayhem and public terror they create isn’t being covered by the media.
Is the media complicit in covering up for them?!
Can anyone clearly and concisely define “white supremacy”? The term is now so ambiguous and all-encompassing that it’s become (intentional or unintentional) a dog whistle to distract the masses from <fill in the blank>. Currently, 1. It’s an election cycle and immigrants flooding certain towns (just hit the news cycle), 2. the assassination attempt on Trump won’t roll over and gasp its last breath. Let’s unveil the evil, encrypted app that aids evil white supremacy. The white supremacy dog whistle shtick is tired… tastes like chicken.
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So, DHumber and MAllison may have ‘liked’ some provocative ‘gram’ that the FBI planted on an encrypted system?
Who writes this material?
Failed romance novelists?
I use T-gram to source several alternative information sites – like:
UKR Leaks
RIA News
RIA Novosti
Intel Slava
Intel Republic
Chronicles of the Conflict
War Gonzo
Strategic Culture Foundation
Easy to see why The Regime wants to shut down the app – way too much enlightenment
These two guys are simpletons who fell for the FBI bait! Smells like Michigan all over again!
Speaking of providing material support for terrorism: Among the millions of military age men who came here as “migrants” none of them have been communicating with each other through these apps? Two guys in their pajamas may not be technically considered a movement but two is the magic number needed for a federal conspiracy charge.
Projection Projection Projection.
To quote Steve Bannon again, “the people have had a belly full of it.”
This gaslighting is to prevent any action to stop the steal, object to the steal, or work against the invasion devastating our communities and ending our Republic.
It’s to shut us up. Because their censorship isn’t working this time. Keep speaking.
Some idiot, FBI millenial flunkee stole the Charles Manson motivation, thinking no one would notice or remember.
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Once upon a time . . .
White supremacy is no more unlawful than black supremacy.
The Deep State needs a big enough narrative to cover what they are trying to pull off. It is not just canceling the Bill of Rights election theft, and controlling the media and big tech, but importing millions of non-whites into America and the West to dilute the voting population in order to gain control.
So we are now all “White Nationalists”. And just in time for Kamala, our new ruler.
These people are so transparently obvious in their scheming. They’re not even remotely clever about it. Everyone can see that white supremacy is a phantom menace. These people need to be 1776’d.
Looks like another FIB op.
It all right there in first paragraph. They are signaling the brick orders should get ready. All the illegals are gonna be used against us. You better be damned good and ready. We are not coming out of this with out a fight people.
WASHINGTON – U.S. prosecutors unveiled criminal charges on Monday against two alleged leaders of a white supremacist gang, saying they used the Telegram social media site to solicit attacks on Black, Jewish, LGBTQ people and immigrants aiming to incite a race war.
NON White Supremacist actions in Springfield, Ohio by REALLY GRACEFUL
I’ve seen the threats represented by Muslim fanatics, authoritarian governments, transnational gangs, etc. But I still wait in anticipation for one example of the much ballyhooed “white supremacist” threat the government is always braying about. Because unless it has something to do with those terrorist grandmas who walked through the capitol on January 6 snapping selfies, I haven’t seen it.
Just in time for the debate. They really have no imagination. Kind of like their cult members.
I cannot recall the name of the individual whose said this but it is apt here: “It is not that the government is too big, it is that it is too stupid.”
The FBI is a white supremist group
It may just be that because we remain UNsubscribed to youtube that it appears that they are implementing, not a lock down on access to information, but they have started forcing non-subscribers to subscribe so they can better track who is seeing what information. In our case, up until this past weekend youtube allowed us to have quick access (a playlist of sorts) to our favorite posters based upon our search history. This is no longer the case. Now youtube says we must log in or create an account in order to create and have a new batch of favorites. So when we type in our favorite channels youtube does not save our playlists of favorites. Because we have not subscribed or provided them our personal identifying information they aren’t making access to free information from other posters available…at least not easily. Minimally this seems like suppression of free information.
Is anyone else seeing / experiencing this on youtube or other platforms?
I’m being forced to sign in sometimes just to see innocuous content.
“The Terrorgram Collective,” used the site to celebrate white supremacist attacks around the world and solicit racially motivated violence,” sounds like the cia to me
Looks like another entrapment scheme by our Stasi, the famous but incompetent buffoons.
I no longer listen or read any mainstream news for a long time now. I use telegram to read about world news to really learn what is going on in the world. The brave people that post chats in their countries are providing unbiased new sources. I have known Russia and Putin to be on the good side compared to the US for years.
So much propaganda against them caused me to seek out alternate sources of info. I support Russia against Ukrai e and now even support the innocent Palestinian people versus the murderous Israel. That is a more recent change only because I have gotten info from others on those countries and others following what is really happening.
Other than the The Last Refuge, I do not know what I will do if they ban Telegram. It truly has many alternate news to follow what is really happening and to learn how The US has tried to take over all parts of the world.
Now when mainstream media says one thing, I know automatically the opposite is true!
In my e-mail inbox today – an article from “The Washington Post” – I am just putting the “highlights” here –
The Post Most
Elon Musk’s misleading election claims reach millions and alarm election officials
(Tom Brenner for The Post)
The X billionaire’s false posts about noncitizen voting spur officials to fact-check him, lead to requests to purge voter rolls, and add to worries about threats.
By Sarah Ellison, Amy Gardner and Clara Ence Morse
suejeanne: This WaPo article sounds so stupid it makes my head hurt.
According to government sources, “White” = “White Supremacist.”
The progressives/moderates/libertarians have been trying to start a race war since Obama. Me thinks the queer communists in federal government project and prevaricate much too much.
At 74 years old and living in CA most of that but spent time in the nothwest I have rarely run into any real white supremists. Ocums razor says there aren’t very many if I haven’t seen any. I’ve known about some in prison and the AB and associated gangs but those folks are not politically inclined. I almost never see them assemble and declare their views in public. So I think this a manufactured fear that don’t exist.
They sure do like to drag out that old “scary whitey” trope every few months, huh?
It’s almost like they KNOW they’re committing atrocities against whites, and they’re trying to get out in front of any retaliation by labeling it as some kind of racism. Maybe we need to round up all the human s**t who keeps spitting on white people and deport their racist asses to someplace more “diverse.” I hear the Teneré Desert is nice this time of year.
Isn’t it kinda funny that these supposed white supremacists who are instigating violence on a whole list of characters doesn’t seem to be gaining any traction yet they are indicted for hate crimes? Is there any news articles about their activities that I have missed? Man our government is giving the Russian Pravda a run for their money on the propaganda.
Their made for Tv/media script to frame white conservative Christians. A set up just like they did on J6.