Most of the time Fox News builds in plausible deniability; however, this time the notorious Fox News pollster Daron Shaw has gone full bananas on behalf of those who pay him to create polling narratives.
Daron Shaw should be well known to CTH readers {Go Deep}. Shaw has been the Fox News poll manipulator and narrative engineer for over a decade. Knowing the Trump v Biden debate was coming, we knew Fox News would arrange some anti-Trumpism media narrative to capitalize on the predictable corporate theme. However, to see the Fox team make “Threats To Democracy” the #1 concern of voters, is just a talking point too far.
Fox News creating/promoting the “Trump is a Danger to Democracy” narrative via polling, is as predictable as Megyn Kelly and her 2015 “Trump is a sexist” debate narrative. Keep in mind, in order to see the strings on the marionettes you first have to stop pretending the performance is real life. Far too many people are comfortable pretending.
FOX NEWS – […] “The underlying demographic tendencies that have defined the race remain in place,” says Republican pollster Daron Shaw, who conducts Fox News surveys with Democrat Chris Anderson. “Biden has improved slightly with women and seniors, which keeps him afloat despite significant reductions from 2020 in support from younger voters and African Americans.” […] The top two issues to voters are the future of American democracy and the economy. Next, stability and normalcy, followed by immigration and health care. Nearly half say abortion and guns will be extremely important to their vote, while closer to one-third feel that way about standing up to elite interests, climate change, and the Israel-Hamas war. (read more)
Funnily enough, President Trump can see exactly what they are doing.
It is time for us to take ownership of the terms securing democracy. And the future.of democracy. I HAVE THE SNEAKING SUSPICION. that more then half of those worried about the future if democracy are worried about voting machines and election interference. LETS STEAL THEIR TERMS.
When daily spouting “Protect Our Democracy,” they are not worried about anything except protecting their own backsides.
To which I always reply, “define democracy”. They’ll look shocked and then get angry. I’ll be laughing in their pitiful faces. Lets roll.
Which obviously to them means whatever we like and approve of…the shocked then angry look matches all the NPC memes that were running around the internet about 3-5 years ago…
The key word is “our” in this phrase…As Slick Willie Clinton once said…”it depends on what the definition of Is, Is”.
Sort of like the URBAN clothing line FUBU was about 15 years ago…It stands for “For US, By US” , which loosely interpreted is if you don’t know who US is, then it definitely isn’t for for you…
FUBU… there’s a blast from the past.
Such an adorable Cabbage Patch Doll!
Have you ever seen Brett, as he is walking? He is about as big as he is tall.
After a healthy dose of “pancake” makeup, starched shirt, and handsome tie, he looks hulky.
Gotta give him extra points for the pretty hair, too!
In the end, he is just another narcissistic orehw.
I saw what you did there, but what is a whero? Brett ain’t no w-hero! 😉
I gave up on fox about….
election 2020 and jan 6th….
I only tune into Gutfeld….
and follow the “indy” Tucker Carlson.
never forget that during the ‘pandemic’, gutfeld was 100% onboard with shilling the vaxxx and criticising any notion of vaccine injuries.
his show required the audience to be vaxxed to attend.
his perverse homoerotic schtick is tired and bizarre.
his negative criticism of panelists is annoying.
he thinks he’s johnny carson, but he’s more of a johnny come lately.
Yep. I occasionally tune in to Gutfeld but only to hear what Tyrus has to say. And the occasional guest, like Anna Paulina Luna.
“lets just say’ Twuss like a lot AA picks ,, is not as wise as you probably want to believe,, that crew has TDS too ,, tho they hide it well. especially Greg,(to his credit ) who realized TDS is not a recipe for success. btw glasses girl hates Trump too ,,so it hard wanting to watch them.
Could not agree more. I thoroughly dislike Timpf as well. She must have something on somebody important at Fox in order to keep her role on Gutfeld. It didn’t take our family very long to give up watching this show. All of Tee Vee is quite shoddy these days.
Shes was Neil ( SQUISH) Cavutto’s intern. she is deep state.
What audience? The paid clapping seals? 👏 🦭
I grow weary of Gutfeld’s pandering to other lame Faux News show hosts who I detest, especially Dana Perino.
Dana Perino activates my gag reflex!
Deep State Dana! We laugh at the TRANSparency of ‘her’ Cabal screed.
Umm humm, jackwagon is Greg.
Stopped watching Faux News years ago. They have no credibility.
Brett Baier just announced that Lyin’ Biden has won the debate 🙂 s/c
That he has “won” it is the only reason he is pretending to go through with it. I fear it will be hard to win an already foregone conclusion.
Obvious eyelid surgery.
My first reaction yesterday when I saw that poll was “here we go again.”
SSDD I’ll bet JoBama gets 81 BILLION votes this time.
Yup, and, once again, there is nothing we can do about it.
Quick, close the door!
I thought that was an obvious manipulation, too, as the #1 issue is either immigration or inflation, not “democracy” in every previous poll for the last year.
My Worries are we are being set up for a miraculous Biden “win” that few will believe happened. His supporters will manufacture another 81 million or more votes (pre-printed). But to do this, the polls have to be close or a toss-up, and law enforcement, Republicans, and the courts need to look the other way- same as last time.
This world is not my home.
My citizenship is in Heaven from which I also eagerly wait for my Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ. Hallelujah.
hebrews.
… where no democracy exists. One King, one kingdom.
Amen. The longer I live the more ready I am to go.
I’ll go so far as to say there is no outcome that doesn’t see the Democrat candidate being declared the victor in November 2024. Everything the Left & complicit Right have done tell us there is no path they will allow that placed Donald Trump back in the Presidency. This is an unpopular message. Especially in a place like this. But I believe most of us have the foreboding that what I’ve said is both true & we will watch it come to pass.
The only plausible outcome that places Donald Trump in the White House in 2025 should scare us far more. If he’s allowed to claim the Presidency, it will only be because the concealed damage is so far worse than even the most outrageous of us have supposed, that they can then drop the total collapse on his head & during the manufactured societal unrest, rally the masses (including 10,000,000+ Illegal Immigrants) in an attempt to wipe Conservative White Christians off the Earth in America.
If this unfolds, don’t think for a second that Russia & China will not suddenly & deliberately attack mainland America. We have provoked, especially Russia, to the degree toppling a divided America will be the opportunity of a life time.
Our world is changing. It is going to change much more dynamically, much faster then most of us realize. It will be surreal. But what is coming… Our faith in Jesus Christ needs to be absolute in the face of what we are watching unfold.
In a nutshell, the intractable problem we face in that the major population centers are in Dem control, which means that the almighty judiciary STANDS WITH THEM.! Art. I, Sec. 4 does grant state control, but ultimately gives Congress total authority to alter election law, a resource that may ultimately need to be tapped to save this listing ship of state.
States have, for good reason, been leery of federal government intrusions into elections, but IF FEDERAL JURISDICTIONS DO NOT GRANT STANDING in local election disputes, CONGRESS, with all of its potential dangers, will have to act, and there, we would have to hope it’s the RIGHT CONGRESS, not the wrong one.
You and I have been saying the same things on here. These “electoral” systems are toys to be played with by the billionaire activists. Not one single court will look into it. Our constitution gives this handful of courtroom cabalists the last word. It does give us a bill of rights but no power over evil individuals locked in power.
We do not have a democracy, tho I wish we did. These phony elected elites are given the keys to our incomes, health, private communications and contributions. We have nothing if they shut us down.
No one here should kid themselves. If we can’t overwhelm the precincts they’ll pull the same tricks as 2020 and 2022.
God will have the final say.
Many people I know believe there will be no 2024 election, that the OBiden Marxist Crime Cabal will create some form of crisis/disaster with ensuing civil unrest that will give Biden an excuse to declare martial law and cancel the election. He’s learned something from his Fascist crony, Zelensky about how to stay in power after all. Propaganda AP news today is now playing up the threat of Russia and the war mongers are center stage again. Laws are being put in place to automatically enlist males 18-26 into a military draft. Will the Cabal start WW3 if it appears there is no other way to keep the Cabbage Head Puppet in the WH?
For them to be setting up the narrative to pretend Trump loses the debate (also watch for the incoming fake poll numbers) means they are planning massive fraud to try to rig the election again. That may lend some optimsm we will still actually have an election. However, the Cabal is probably keeping all their options open to prevent Trump from becoming POTUS again. They are likely willing to do ANYTHING to prevent this, even if it means killing millions of people worldwide.
As an aside- Will trannies and Drag Queens be included as “men” in the Draft? It could be entertaining to watch how the Left defines men regarding this matter. How many snowflake liberals will quickly convert to declaring themselves female if “womx” are not included in the Draft? BBBut I thought they loved Zelensky?
PDJT’s supporters know exactly how to interpret all polls.
No matter what they say, assume that we are 10 points behind and fight like the Third Monkey sundance so often mentions.
Easy peasy. Ignore and vote and bring as many as you can to register and vote.
Good advice. Kari Lake was well ahead in the polls in 2022, by eleven points if I remember correctly. But Katie Hobbs is now governor of Arizona, just as she said she would be after the ballots were counted. Hobbs knew 110% what she was talking about.
Cheaters know how to cheat.
Actually, the dimwit Charlie Kirk told Arizonians only to vote on Election Day. Things happened and Kirk admitted his advice resulted in 30,000 lost votes.
The eternal AZ “audit results” have revealed 10’s of 1000’s of illicit mail-ins. We can learn all of these tricks but the R cabal just scowls and puffs and does ZERO. When we realize we have only a phantom R party the many aggravating election outcomes make sense.
She made the mistake of telling everyone to show up in person on election day,,hence the 20% breakdown of voting machines in red districts that day, that AND Demonrat harvesting efforts did Lake in . she was robbed.
I have no clue who Daron Shaw is ?
as I stopped watching TV 8 years ago and
I haven’t paid attention to fake polls in that amount of time either
Ditto.
Trump is a threat to their democrazy… Why else would I support him.
100%
What a bunch of nonsense. Democracy is why the country is sooooooo corrupt.
So called democracy means we have open borders, and US citizens are forced to finance the whole illegal invasion.
They call it immigration. They call abortion healthcare. I really like the ” Stability / Normalcy” part, I needed a good laugh.
What do we expect propagandists to do but work for their masters spreading their webs of lies.
Fox lapdogs don’t even state what America’s political construct is correctly. And, if President Trump returns to the oval, the democrats concept of democracy will/ should end.
Hmm, tweedle dum = Frank Luntz
tweedle dee = Daron Shaw
Fox News sure knows where to find the HUCKSTERS!!! 🤔
Biden will be shot up like the sotu.hell lose it screaming at trump.
If we’re lucky maybe he’ll stroke out.
July 9, 2021
White House Announces Joe Biden Trip to Philadelphia to Fight Pennsylvania Senate Audit of Election Result, The Election Corruption Must Be Maintained At All Costs
Watch for a body double for Biden at the debate. No way he can reasonably pull this off. Every day he’s losing microchunks of his brain from his disease; every day is worse than the one before for him.
Hopefully PDT will stop mid sentence and comment about a very disgusting oder coming from the other side of the stage
Methinks the body double already exists and is powered by AI that really doesn’t understand what role it is supposed to be playing yet. Many notable “deep fakes” (haha) on that one recently. The body of the Deep Fake walks like Lurch from the Adams family. I can only wonder at what Bummer is doing with the AI Biden their shared basement.
You can fool most people some of the time, but not all people all of the time. Don’t know if I got that right.
That’s what I suspect too.
I am sick sick sick of hearing about ‘our democracy’ and ‘threats to our democracy’. Our governmental system is not a democracy.
The United States is a constitutional republic, a representative democracy if you will.
Democracy is the will of the majority, regardless of any particular minority. It has always produced tyranny. See ancient Greece as an example.
We have representatives who, one hopes, will elucidate the views of the citizens they represent, and it is by democratic means that those folks express the intent of the citizens.
I hope this helps, but…just a suggestion….it would be most helpful for the discoure here is refer to our system as a constitutional or representative republic, not as a democracy, which it is most assuredly not.
Spread the word about the differences between democracy and constitutional republic.
We used to teach that in schools, and God bless Mrs Patsy Morrow who made all of us country bumpkins essentially memorize the Constitution…in the 8th grade American History class. It’s been 60 years, and I haven’t forgotten the gift she gave us. Unless we all remember those type lessions, out country is doomed.
I remain an eternal enemy of tyranny.
for the discourse here <to> refer
Both systems lead to tyranny. If a republic was so amazing we wouldn’t be having these problems. It didn’t happen by accident.
Man is simply incapable of extended self rule. All governments end up in the failure funnel.
After being allowed to win the presidential debate coin toss, Joe Biden took a three-step victory lap. President Trump raised a clinched fist and said, “Joe, I get the final word, you hump.”
Will Joe Biden deliberately foul himself mid-way through the debate in order to get a break for more Adderall?
Seems a good time to let Fox know that I, a former long-term watcher, noticed your shows just weeks before 2020 election, changed to a liberal loving, single minded format. So I changed channels & never looked back.
Guess your genius gurus aren’t any smarter than the public, just better paid.
Love Newsmax & many of former Fox narrators.
I owe my present good feelings about Newsmax to the wool you tried pulling over my eyes.
Beware of Newsmax, too. Don’t allow yourself to “love” ANY media outlet. Newsmax will break your heart, too.
100%!!!
Newsmax was founded by a major Clinton Crime Family donor.
Good, because we don’t want a mob rule democracy. I am sick of hearing that, especially from those you think you can trust. It sends off warnings saying treason treason. We want our Constitutional Republic! The founders had a remedy for treason and they would have hanged the traitors already!
Apologies but i read that poll a bit different. The voters are worried about Democracy but not that Trump is the threat to it. Rather, that democracy is being trampled on by the establishment through lawfare and ignoring of the constitution. I read it as good for Trump. M2C
Rich Baris, talking about a poll that “should not have gone to print,” just days after himself conducting a poll (JD Vance) that also should not have gone to print.
Funny that.
I travel for business every week, I sleep in a hotel and get caught up on the propaganda. It truly is amazing what passes for “news” . We have not had TV in our home for 14 years, we have NEVER, missed it.
Trump’s statement re poll:
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/112649824679207686
THEY FAILED TO ASK IF biden was a danger to our democracy
The false poll was so obvious even my wife saw it was fake. Still working on getting her away from her F&F addiction.
I expect that Biden will use an hidden earpiece during the debate. The chaos that would most certainly result if someone were able to disrupt the signal transmission would be the only reason I’d consider watching the debate.
I think Fox News (and all cable news) is for the living in a bubble beltway crowd. No thinking person really gives a crap what they have to say since March 2020. And many long before that.
Media polling does not measure opinion. It shapes opinions.
The “protecting democracy” BS is a deflection. Puppet will definitely be ready to address it, since his handlers will have every question ahead of time. Can he remember the answer? Can he repeat it after listening via his ear piece implant?
No, the BIG smear attack will be “Trump is a convicted felon”. This is already resonating within internal polling…and it’s why they engineered the multiple lawfare attacks so meticulously via the WH. It bends the lean with mushy moderates and women who might be leaning against Biden but so many of their circle are already against Trump.
All kinds of “debate” rules to hamper President Trump and supposedly benefit Biden. (No sitting being the exception) .One key rule that’s not included: no one has said that Biden cannot be allowed to wear an ear piece. Money says he will…
Is that included with the “No contact with their respective staff” stipulation?
Camp David, Maryland. Today Joe Biden went into a week long seclusion at the Presidential Debate Training Camp. Aides were tight-lipped about how Biden will prepare for the most critical debate of his political career. However, aides did say that Biden is a fierce debater and was captain of his college debate team winning several awards and that at law school Biden received accolades for his moot court performances and even taught debate theory at the University of Pennsylvania. Aides did reveal that Joe will be focusing on stamina, his wit and stories from his youth. Asked if Biden would retell the Corn Pop story during the debate Aides were mumb, but gave a wink and thumbs up.
LATE BREAKING: During the debate Biden will skip rope, don boxing gloves and punch a heavy bag and jog around the stage while his microphone is muted. Biden, known as “Joe the Mad Crapper” was of course a Golden Gloves champion and second alternate for the US Olympic Team.
Fox News is nothing more than a sh#t show. The Pretenders
The deck of cards is so corrupt, evil and drunk on power there is no way Trump will win in November. I will still vote for him of course. Waiting for Obama to unleash his army of millions of military aged illegals upon us soon.
Someone should ask Bret Baire if he regrets being the first to lie to the American people about Biden winning the 2020 election, thereby thrusting the Nation into its current death spiral.
Oh pleeeeze, can’t we watch some news. Joe Dan, Branco, or the Bee would all be better than FiNC.
For the debate Joe Biden will reinvent himself. He’ll be sporting new Nike’s, Wranglers, a lumber jack shirt and a blue MASA (Make America Suck Again) ball cap. Joe will also have a new Mullet hair-do, all business in front, all party in back.
He’ll have to get new plugs.
How many regs etc did Trump repeal in 2020?
50,000?
Dictators dont get rid of regs, laws, e.o etc..
. they add to the totals ala democrats at every level
The message is as simple as that.
Faux newz is a threat to the republic
As far as getting any news these days, we the people, are basically on our own. There are less and less sites that carry anything even remotely believable. I read my news from sites like this and Gateway Pundit and Breitbart.
I was unable to see the video at the end of the article: “This video is private”.
This is through my Samsung Internet browser.
I then tried to view in Chrome, but video was “unavailable” through that avenue.
Same here.
Same firefox.
I expect Joe Biden to be strongly dosed with uppers for the debate. The telling sign will be how sort or clear his schedule will be in the days following the debate.
I do not believe Trump should have agreed to the terms of the debate the way his side did. His best Angle is exposing Biden for exactly what he is. That necessitated live audience, no mic cuts, & standing for the session.
Biden debating Trump.
Really?
Bring the popcorn.
Bloom is off the rose for Fox. Doesn’t matter if Trump wins or loses, everyone hates them. The election won’t change that fact. Nobody likes or trusts the Paul Rhino network. That guy is such a gutless jerk that he can’t even face the fact that he’s a Dem. Nobody should ever speak to him again.
Looks like youtube killed that video
IMO more important than Daron Shaw’s bias is this narrative:
Within this segment, Fox offers digital readers [1] a news flash video (2’36”) with this content (bolding is mine):
Within this content [1] it reads also (bolding is mine):
The presidential race continues to be close, even as Biden bests Trump for the first time since October in a hypothetical two-way rematch (50% vs. 48%). Biden also has a 1-point edge in the expanded ballot (43% Biden, 42% Trump, 10% Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. and 2% apiece to Cornel West and Jill Stein).
[1] rb.gy/c3b0lg
According to Mr. Shaw’s bias, wouldn’t Dr. Ben Carson’s VP nomination also do the same as Sen. Scott?
So in what red states are they saying President Trump is losing support to Biden?
Pardon my ignorance: I don’t go into details in a manufactured poll.
Apart from that, common sense has it that a realistic path for President Trump’s victory: Win all states he won in ’20 + GA, AZ and one out of WI/MI/PA.
And suddenly it becomes clear: The national polls have little relevance!
It’s ALL PROPAGANDA & BS!! All lies. All of the words spilling from the lips of those speaking from MSM forums are just noise; NOT “news”. NOT “facts”. Attempted psychological manipulation, at best. Pure Marxist/Communist behavior at its finest. Yah, right – I’m supposed to believe “Biden best Trump” in ANY poll when, in fact, he can’t fill a high school gym with supporters compared to TRUMP CONTINUOUSLY drawing tens of thousands of American patriots in support of his “Make America Great Again” agenda! fjb.
I trust no polls as the pollsters can twist them to reach what they want.
As for a VP pick Senator JD Vance would be the best for Trump. Vance grew up poor, served in the military in war, went to college via GI Bill, then was brilliant in business, and then the Senate. Vance follows the way Trump votes.
Scott is one of my Senators and I would not want him as VP.
Trump may be a threat to their democracy, but Biden is a threat to our republic.
Not just a threat; he’s destroying the republic that the American flag stands for.
Everything the Left campaigns on is abstract feelings.
And doing it deliberately.
As are all democrat communists.
he and the radical democrats are purposely destroying the country.
Fake poll! Thanks to Paul Ryan