I’m not sure exactly what the motive is behind this, nor do I fully understand how it ties into the FISA-702 renewal effort by the insufferable HPSCI Chairman Mike Turner, but everything negative being said about Michael Shellenberger is accurate.
Trust me, if there’s one person on this planet right now without the time to deal with this nonsense, it’s me. However, from what I can ascertain, Shellenberger is reciting old information dug up by independent researchers on the Spygate operation as it pertained to the CIA, FBI and larger IC.
Shellenberger is then claiming “sources” have confirmed the CIA ran intel operations against the Trump campaign in 2016 using foreign assets and foreign intelligence partners. This is old, old, very old, information being repackaged as if it was new information and sold to an audience for the price of $9.99 subscription. In my opinion, it’s a complete con.
I have no idea who this Shellenberger idiot is, nor do I really care. You cannot plagiarize me because I give all the CTH research and analytical writing away free – openly telling people to take it and make it their own, just don’t monetize it.
It appears Michael Shellenberger is a man of low moral character who is taking the independent research work of others, repackaging it and selling it as his own work product.
This activity is likely because Shellenberger, a leftist, didn’t believe it when the Spygate researchers were tearing apart the preferred narrative and delivering atomic truth bombs in 2017 and 2018. Suddenly, as the weight of the truth comes forth, there is no denying what was previously proven. Everything Shellenberger is claiming now is a rehash of old information, repackaged and sold to a duped audience for $9.99 each.
Everything he claims is new, isn’t. It’s all previously cited, sourced and disseminated information. It’s pretty low-class to try and dupe people just to make money, but hey… that’s what some people do.
I have two words for this type of operation, and it ain’t Merry Christmas.
Nuf Said.
Moving on…..
Love to all!


He’s putting it out there with two other journos, Matt Taibbi, and one other guy whose name I forget. I went to read their stuff only to find out it’s YOUR stuff and stuff covered by several other writers like Lee Smith and even Greg Jarrett who wrote books about the framing of DJT.
Substack is compromised
see my comments further down
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As an avid reader here, I had read everything Taibbe and Shellenberger reported except that all evidence is buried at Langley, and a key file is missing.
The name schellberger, rings a bell, old politics?
Dan Bonjino was on this at the start. Wrote books. It is old news they are trying to get ahead of the coming play. Papadopolous, Page, Manafort. It was all out there.
Bongino’s coverage of the Flynn story sucked me in. The best I can say of Shillenberger is that he is moving the Overton window for the leftist normies. The worst, he is positioning a a weak, controlled, shill gatekeeper
John Solomon and Sara Carter did a lot of great early reporting, too!
Yes, but as Sundance has noted, they were controlled.
Both Shellenberger and Taibbi testified before Congress on the Twitter Files expose` after being recruited by Musk to investigate.
Now we have the Spygate “new” info.
What is motivating the “informal sanctioning” of this info release into semi mainstream circles?
Why the outing of CIA involvement?
Is something more damning coming out that can’t be buried?
Then we have the Mike Benz interview.
Seems to be a shift in narrative developing, but why and by who?
its data mining, the Patriot Act agencies are using Twitter and the platforms to harvest the social graphs of “conservatives, citizens, patriots” so that we can be completely crushed by the AI
as we consume the “the AI is going to get us” social media, the AI is training its models, so that “the AI is going to get us real good”
all the Big Tech platforms are required by the Patriot Act to send the data back to the agencies, who then used the data analytics for predictive analytics (what will you do next) to prescriptive analytics (we will make you do what we want next)
Every time Musk does a MAGA meme, he is hoovering that patriot social graph and selling it to the back door agencies he complains about
its classic multi-sided marketplace business model
One opinion is that Musk is a government operative, as all of his projects are directly intertwined with the government. Mike Benz indicates that it is the US government that is beholden to Musk, for his innovative approach; that the current threat to Musk is the new censorship laws coming out of the EU. I still am on the fence about whether Musk is legit.
Musk is operating a multi-sided market. He is many things to many people.
I am SURE the China Cartel and the the zombie corps want his market share
Exactly, which is why you should visit a slew of mainstream websites just to register a quick hit and then close the page. Confuse the AI by going to pages of differing spectrums.
We recently had the restrictions removed on criticizing Biden. Maybe the two are connected
I’d guess to avoid any deeper more damaging truth. Cop to the known behaviour and hope the unknown behaviour can stay hidden. Just my cynical amateur guess. I believe one cannot be too cynical.
“…one cannot be too cynical.”
Sadly, yes.
Well, the instant this “news” broke, I recognized it as an op. It is being allowed to break. The MSM is transparent at this point. When they suddenly flip, as with Biden’s advanced dementia and this, it’s an op.
So at least we know CTH has moved the needle. They are being forced to address this. They’re choosing how it’s addressed. Getting a spin on it. Throwing a few carcasses out to be devoured. But they wouldn’t do even that unless they had to.
Smith’s prosecution would have surfaced much of this eventually. Trump would have seen to that, and he still will. So, Lawfare and captive msm are taking the edge off these scandals preemptively. Probably a smart tactic by Lawfare. I didn’t think these crude dolts had it in ’em. Trump had this tactic gamed out long ago though, you may depend.
tis my thought as well – though it is surprising that they are throwing Obama’s name directly.
I think Deep State and the Uniparty are done with Biden and Obama. MSM is reporting on Biden’s brother Jim defrauding Medicare, another sudden flip. That guy has been soaking up $$$ for decades, no secret, but the coverage today is an op.
Newsom is in the chute. Just a matter of time.
Obama won’t be touched, but some of his underlings will get handclaps, I bet.
Newsome in the chute for president? Or for destruction by the left/WEF?
So I think the talking heads went to Killary’s camp and saw the deal, and The Kenyan’s camp and saw the deal…they went with Killary
And Trump’s gameplan is simple sunlight, same as CTH’s. The vampires can’t survive sunlight, and they fear it. Nice work here, brother.
“Drawing the sting”
What is new is some times people can’t hear the truth the first time. But they can after getting more context. So this is news for some, and well timed “news” even for those of us who have been beating our heads against the wall for years now.
We still don’t know who Joseph Mifsud is. Or why Samantha Powers needed hundreds of FISA unmasking of US citizens at the 11th hour of the Obama administration. Let alone what she did with that information or why suddenly she shows up a key Biden employee at USAID.
There remains much for many, esp those on the “left’ to discover …even if they act as if they invented it .If his columns create new interest among new readers might want to just give this a pass .While we continue to nod our thanks to you for getting this information out of us long ago.
Susan Rice was using Samantha’s password & it was info for Obama to help carry out the Russia Russia hoax.
Never lend a password to anyone.
What was Podesta’s password again?
“admin” or “password”. 🤣🤣🤣
hopefully shellenberger and taibbi will reach people that would knee-jerk reject anything on cth.
President Trump never had a DOJ that was working for him. There was no “Trump’s DOJ”. There was only a DOJ plotting against him.
I knew he was not a friend the minute he dissed President Trump. Then I heard an Emerald Robinson interview on FrankSpeech about two weeks ago, shared it here then and many times since. He’s a DIM jerk, claiming other people’s work as his own, like Shiva. Both nasty men.
End of story.
This smells of simple con game, perhaps with elements of damage and narrative control.
Another kind of leftist plagiarism?
God Bless You, Sundance!
Did he say Epochtimes?
Schallenberger was one of the journalists Elon Musk asked to review the Twitter Files after Musk purchased it. He had his previously “leftist” eyes opened. Plus he wrote the one of the few credible books about the vagrant crisis in California – San Fransicko. He also took a stab running for Governor during the Gavin Newsom recall a few years back.
As a DIM.
Rich Baris The People’s Pundit
@Peoples_Pundit
If @NikkiHaley thinks this sabotage mission will give her DEM bona fides and respect, she’s sadly mistaken.
She’s being used like a one-night stand and it only ends the way it did for @CharlieChrist
, untrusted and hated by all voters, who are not stupid.
Do you know why they blur the audience behind Mitt-in-a-Skirt?
Because it’s imaginary.
Please Clap.
Rich is on target, as usual. 👍
The only thing new to me was the missing binder being a possible reason why Mar-a-Lago was raided. So after I added it to the timeline, the similar stories that appear on the bottom of the timeline entry page, showed Larry Johnson theorized that possibility in 2022. lol
As soon as Mar-a-Lago was raided we, at CTH, were positing that it was the binder they were after….
We suffered through that timeframe as we lived and read Sundance’s deep-dive explanations of the pain we saw and felt. Obviously, this low life didn’t. He was part of the pain, the problem, and the certain denials. Now he wants to make money off Sundance’s hard work.
I’m not on X but for those who are I hope you will expose his fraud.
Yes, he was a leftist. He may still be a Dem, but IMO, his eyes were opened for the first time once he was called (with Taibbi) by Musk to uncover the censorship and report his findings.
Schell or shoudl I say, Shillingberger wrote a very silly book about San Francisco that looked at the controlled demolition of San Francisco from the “they are crazy leftists” angle, which is a typical Culture Wars approach that ignores, or covers for, or redirects from the political economy, the institutional dynamics of the structural changes in San Francisco, indeed all global cities.
With the maturization of offshoring, AI, automation, same day or real time deliveries, mainfested in Big Tech, urban village NIMBY city scapes such as San Francisco just don’t compute.
First with the manufactured “homeless crisis”, sanctuary city, City of London/Soros”crazy soft on crime, leftist lawfare”, then Illegal Republics militia of BLM and Antifa, and then Covid 19 Lockdowns (San Francisco being one of the worst Branch Covidian revolutionary suicide cults), we saw “crazy, leftist” politics as a thin veneer for Big Business, Big Tech, and China (City of London).
San Francisco was a hotbed of NIMBYism, urban village zoning laws and VERY VERY strong activist local scene. The Homesless Crisis, used insanse homeless people as front stage props, to change the zoning laws ALL over California, so that anywhere there is a public transport zone, i.e. a bus stop, a train station or wait for it, a taxi stand, the zoning could go high rise.
Next in this recipe, is “Soros”/City of London funding laws and prosecutors that make face to face commerce, small business impossible. Stores get flash mobbed and flash robbed, anything under 1000$ is not prosecutable. Even the big box face to face stores are leaving. Ecommerce and real time deliveries are the only answer.
Next add Covid lockdowns and all these things converge to create a Detroit style collapse of San Francisco. Its anti-human and basically satanic, its like the day after Burning Man and the day before Mad Max.
Commercial real estate, office buildings, shopping malls, are just not needed in an e-commerce, AI, offshored economy. There is 70+% vacancy in offices in San Francisco.
China town has expanded massively, and many of the remaining shops are now owned by Chinese. Indeed the SFGOP is being taken over by Chinese “first generation American homeowners”. Remember there is no extradition treaty with China, Chinese illegals do what they want, and the Chinese economy in San Franciso is absolutely a colony.
Schillenberger focussed on the bad policies and the woke libtards and not on the fact, that every single one of the “Joe Rogan that’s crazy man memes” just happened to benefit in a very real economic and non crazy way, Big Money (Wall Street, City of London, China), Big Tech AND China.
San Francisco used to be a multi-cultural society, full of super smart, freaky geeky young people, now its a Blade Runner society, where AI oligarchs control vast wealth, and a huge Babylon mass on third worlders live in an AI mass personalization propaganda augmented reality.
And, oh yes, stressed out, isolated and unhappy people, click more and buy more online.
oh, yes, and I should add, the Substack economy, is much favored Free Speech subscription stack
its worth looking who owns Substack
TCG Peter Chernin; Former News Corp COO. Chernin has donated over $100,000 to the Democratic Party, candidates & associated organizations, as well as hosting Barack Obama at his home for a fundraiser in 2013.[47][48] He also supported Hillary Clinton in the run-up for the 2016 U.S. presidential election.[49] https://www.theguardian.com/media/2009/feb/24/rupert-murdoch-peter-chernin-leave-news-corp
Audrey Gelman; Hillary Clintons 2008 Presidential Campaign, Press aide
Wei Guo https://www.linkedin.com/in/wei-guo-b9b76038/ is an active angel investor in Silicon Valley, focusing on early stage cross-sector investments. Since 2015, he has invested in over 300 Silicon Valley startups, over 70 companies with valuation greater than 100 million USD and 100 companies valued over 50 million USD.
Wei was recognized as 36 Under 36 by 36Kr, 40 Under 40 by Fortune China, 40 Under 40 by Chuangyebang, and was ranked as the #3 of the top 50 angel investors by Forbes based on investment volume and successful exits. Wei was one of the few to be cited as a “China Whisperer” by the Washington Post, Wei was ranked as the number one angel investor in Artificial Intelligence by VentureBeats and was recognized under both the Venture Capital and Big Money Startups categories of the Forbes 30 Under 30. In 2016, Wei was listed as one of the Global Top 20 Best Cross-Border Early-Stage Investors by ChinaVenture.
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and the Commercial Real Estate, is going to be “reimagined” into Bladerunner complexes
The part I don’t get is if most jobs are eliminated who is going to have money to buy all that slave made Chinese junk, gov employees? The illegals who have no education or language skills? Especially with the sky-high cost of living in SF. SF was a cool place to visit in the 80s and 90s, now you couldn’t pay me to visit that forsaken leftist hellscape.
well, its not going to be you or me, that’s for sure
global civil war and huge population collapse
I am sure it must be very irritating and frustrating to you, and we are right to criticize those who claim other people’s work as their own. However, we are not living in a normal situation. Isn’t the most important thing the fact that this information is getting to more people. Because it is coming from people like Shellenberger and Taibbi, it is being read by people who would never have read what was written on a right wing website in 2018, even one as eminent as the Treehouse.
In a world of lies, the truth can not be repeated too many times, or by too many voices
I think that McCarthy’s roommate / boyfriend, Frank what his name , should do one of his voter survey panels , with Biden and undecided voters , to see if this New repackaged info from non right wing sources will have an impact, if any , on their voting decisions …
Frank Luntz, he who wears a dead squirrel on top of his head.
Hmmm… so you trust that this Shellenburger is disseminating this information in good faith(truthfully) and not to enrich himself?
The fact that he has so robustly monetized someone else’s hard work should answer any gnawing questions as to whether or not he will bastardize this information!
Your honesty is touching, but naive. That’s not the grotty world this battle is being fought in.
Step up your game.
Condescension becomes you.
I am sure Shellenburger is enriching himself, there are very few in journalism today who would recognize integrity, let alone consider acting with any. However, to my mind, that is of less importance than the fact the information is finally reaching a wider audience.
Why does anyone here give a s—- about reaching a wider audience with the truth?? That wider audience has shown us, over and over, that they don’t care, and won’t be doing anything about it.
In other words, just as Paul wrote from prison…
Some, to be sure, are preaching Christ even from envy and strife, but some also from goodwill; the latter do it out of love, knowing that I am appointed for the defense of the gospel; the former proclaim Christ out of selfish ambition rather than from pure motives, thinking that they are causing me distress in my imprisonment. What then? Only that in every way, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is proclaimed, and in this I rejoice.
(Philippians 1:15-18)
The truth about Spygate is being proclaimed. It’s being proclaimed by people who are in the process of coming from the left, and who have a different audience. Others, like Naomi Wolf and maybe Tucker Carlson, are further along that path.
Many of these still former or transforming Leftists believe some things, in some values, that I do not share.
But truth spoken is truth spoken.
I, too, have been in process. I used to criticize the Left for their depictions of the CIA, big corporations, the Pentagon, and the FBI. Well…? How many of you, like me, have now come to believe is true what only leftists were claiming back in the ’70s?
So what do people look like in the middle of a transition, from one view of the world to another? Can we really tell the difference between someone who is beginning to say maybe the Trump crowd are right, and someone who is a plant, a double-agent, a false prophet?
At some point in this battle for freedom against the Deep State and the globalists for whom they work… we townspeople of Rock Ridge are gonna have to say yes to even the Irish.
And remember, keeping us divided from other Americans who understand other parts of the truth has been their longest running op.
The plants and double-agents are numerous. For example, look at the NY-3 special Congressional election just held, the R party leader and that gang.
Love the quote from Blazing Saddles. I really miss good comedies. The movies they call comedies now are mostly too cringey for my taste.
What a great comment. Thank you.
Excellent points. Conservatives often seem to let the perfect get in the way of the good.
Emerald Robinson had a substack earlier this week or last week on Shellenberger. I read some of her email but I am not a paid subscriber so from what I can tell what Sundance is saying is spot on with her reporting. Also Tracy Beanz on Truth had this as breaking news and I commented it is not breaking it is known information from years ago.
You have to remember that leftist put their blinders on when it comes to reading and believing anything but leftist generated drivel. Then, when the truth comes finally dawns on them, and they start reading all of the work that has been generated by the real journalist, its all suddenly “new” information, and they are breaking the story. The problem is, they are shocked when they discover that their leftist audience still isn’t interest in what they have, so they become even more intrenched in getting material out and charging for it because it is costing them their prior audience, who kept them in bread and soup. Shellenberger did the same thing with all the research that had gone into proving that climate change, and all the so-called science was nothing more than hoax journalism. He tried to campaign on that discovery, but it didn’t get him any where. Now he, Taibbi and others are taking “their reality epiphany” and trying to establish themselves are out in the front journalists. It is sad, but who knows, maybe some of their old buddies on the left will pick up the message and step across the aisle. It is entertaining to watch.
Enlightening the leftists isn’t worth doing. Better just make fun of them.
Renz seemed right on .
Klick-Kampf: The click-bait $truggle is real.
Shill Berg Better
Who’s Michael Shellenberger?
The curious case of the failed candidate for California governor who magically morphed into an “award-winning” journalist overnight
https://www.emerald.tv/p/whos-michael-shellenberger
Maybe the DS and Obama fear the docs will be released, the parts which place Obama behind it all.
The part that Schellenberg has been spotlighting is the part Obama played in it all.
Emerald Robinson exposed Michael Shellenberger in a post several weeks ago. I wish I had copied the link but it can probably be found going on her site. She essentially called him a charlatan that plays both ends against the middle and offered quite a bit of history to back it up.
She had a lot of negative to say and I was surprised when his name just surfaced portraying himself as one of the goods guys. I’m happy that Sundance cleared the air. I was a little perplexed by his recent writings and how he was portraying himself.
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He is a Deep State plant getting paid for a job. What could be his motivation to do this at this time? Perhaps get ahead of a coming story or controled leaks? Someone or someones will be sacrificed to obfuscate from something else.
MUST READ
On February 8th blogger Emerald Robinson suggested he might be CIA. He came out of nowhere- and now he’s an expert on everything?
The Talented Mr. Shellenberger!
“In 2020, he wanted total COVID lockdowns! In 2024, he wants to lead a global anti-censorship movement!”
“Sometime after Michael Shellenberger ran as a long-shot candidate for California governor (as a Democrat) in 2018 but before he suddenly became a famous journalist and expert on government censorship in 2022-3, there was a brief period in 2020 when he was an advocate for draconian COVID lockdowns in America.
“This period of the talented Mr. Shellenberger’s life is harder to review because he has locked down the tweets on his old Twitter/X account. That particular account goes under the handle “ShellenbergerMD.” …”
“… Shellenberger seemed to be calling for the complete shutdown of America and a comprehensive tyranny initiated by Congress in March 2020.”
“That’s interesting because such an insane and un-American “response” to COVID was exactly what America’s national security state and America’s pharmaceutical industry wanted in 2020.”
“According to Mark Groubert, a reporter for LA Weekly, *** Shellenberger’s father was actually a CIA agent.*** Why did Shellenberger appear on Groubert’s radar? Groubert had noticed that Michael Shellenberger seemed “to drop out of the sky right into cable news” and “now he’s an expert and he’s on all the time as an expert.”…”
“…He’s even managed to wrangle Matt Taibbi and Russell Brand into this group effort. ”
And hete I just thought he was an expert on the homeless.
Emerald Robinson with Mark Groubert 15:50 to 30:40.
https://frankspeech.com/Video/exclusive-fani-willis-campaign-contributions-raise-red-flags-of-suspicious-activity
👏 👏 👏
Schell or shoudl I say, Shillingberger wrote a very silly book about San Francisco that looked at the controlled demolition of San Francisco from the “they are crazy leftists” angle, which is a typical Culture Wars approach that ignores, or covers for, or redirects from the political economy, the institutional dynamics of the structural changes in San Francisco, indeed all global cities.
With the maturization of offshoring, AI, automation, same day or real time deliveries, mainfested in Big Tech, urban village NIMBY city scapes such as San Francisco just don’t compute.
First with the manufactured “homeless crisis”, sanctuary city, City of London/Soros”crazy soft on crime, leftist lawfare”, then Illegal Republics militia of BLM and Antifa, and then Covid 19 Lockdowns (San Francisco being one of the worst Branch Covidian revolutionary suicide cults), we saw “crazy, leftist” politics as a thin veneer for Big Business, Big Tech, and China (City of London).
San Francisco was a hotbed of NIMBYism, urban village zoning laws and VERY VERY strong activist local scene. The Homesless Crisis, used insanse homeless people as front stage props, to change the zoning laws ALL over California, so that anywhere there is a public transport zone, i.e. a bus stop, a train station or wait for it, a taxi stand, the zoning could go high rise.
Next in this recipe, is “Soros”/City of London funding laws and prosecutors that make face to face commerce, small business impossible. Stores get flash mobbed and flash robbed, anything under 1000$ is not prosecutable. Even the big box face to face stores are leaving. Ecommerce and real time deliveries are the only answer.
Next add Covid lockdowns and all these things converge to create a Detroit style collapse of San Francisco. Its anti-human and basically satanic, its like the day after Burning Man and the day before Mad Max.
Commercial real estate, office buildings, shopping malls, are just not needed in an e-commerce, AI, offshored economy. There is 70+% vacancy in offices in San Francisco.
China town has expanded massively, and many of the remaining shops are now owned by Chinese. Indeed the SFGOP is being taken over by Chinese “first generation American homeowners”. Remember there is no extradition treaty with China, Chinese illegals do what they want, and the Chinese economy in San Franciso is absolutely a colony.
Schillenberger focussed on the bad policies and the woke libtards and not on the fact, that every single one of the “Joe Rogan that’s crazy man memes” just happened to benefit in a very real economic and non crazy way, Big Money (Wall Street, City of London, China), Big Tech AND China.
San Francisco used to be a multi-cultural society, full of super smart, freaky geeky young people, now its a Blade Runner society, where AI oligarchs control vast wealth, and a huge Babylon mass on third worlders live in an AI mass personalization propaganda augmented reality.
And, oh yes, stressed out, isolated and unhappy people, click more and buy more online.
I never understood what happened to Matt Taibbi and the whole Twitter Files revelations, and halting of revelations.
Is he the real deal, a truth teller?
And what happened to the ex New York Times female writer that was part of these exposes?
Were they bought off? Threatened?
Twitter Files dump stopped.
Tucker Carlson fired from Fox News.
limited hangouts are limited
Very eloquently worded Sundance, thank you.
Couldn’t agree more. All old news.
Personally, I don’t have a problem with him putting out “new” information that lots of us have known for years, as long as he’s educating others as to the truth. Heck, when Snowden made news for what he released and what was reported, I wasn’t shocked, because I already knew this from years of research and analysis. Nevertheless, I was glad it was receiving the light of day via Leftist news personnel. The key is that it’s being reported.
Let’s not attack those that are in reality helping our cause. People change their views when they are given new information. Even Tucker Carlson talks about being “radicalized” by his travel to Russia and seeing truth first hand, instead of the Western propaganda he had been fed all these years.
Let’s stop the jealous backbiting, and instead, maybe we could cooperate and become a more powerful force for disseminating the truth.
My impression is he, taibi are frustrated leftists who can’t believe what they’re seeing. Hopefully they have been red pilled. We’ve gotta have hope
Bari Weiss couldn’t be honest and dropped out of the Twitter file investigation.
I’m sure many of us would agree except that he put it behind a paywall on X. While Tucker has stuff behind a paywall, he puts a lot out there free like the Putin interview and I’ve never seen anything that could be attributed to someone else that Tucker hasn’t added to significantly. I have no issue with folks getting paid, but in this case, it was a very bad look and Shellenberger is getting the pushback he deserves.
Give Scellenberger the benefit of the doubt Sundance. He and Taibbi are doing a pretty good job of getting the info out. None of this is new to those who are in the Treehouse but many have only recently had their eyes opened, and they are still reeling. Schellenberger might be one of those. I don’t know him but I know the b.s. I believed prior to 2016 when the Blob went bonkers and ripped off their own masks. Until then, I believed it was all DNC and their water carriers in the media.
We need all the recently red pilled journalists we can find.
If you want an excellent recap (and more), Tucker’s interview with Mike Benz is worth it: https://tuckercarlson.com/uncensored-the-national-security-state-the-inversion-of-democracy/
I don’t know why I should be offended by shedding more light on our greatest problem. I don’t remember anyone reporting on a specific list of 26 Trump insiders targeted by 5-eyes.
There are many grifters out there, some claiming to be on our side. They are not.
And many who repeat or repackage the work of others.
Twitter/X makes people do unfortunate things. It’s a cottage industry for many of them. It’s all been going on for a long time now.
Be alert, be aware, and be smart. Common sense is your friend. The situation at hand often exposes a few more fakes and grifters every time.
The 15 House votes over Kevin McCarthy as speaker a while back should have been a clearinghouse event for those paying attention. Did you keep score of who was attacking those 20 Patriots? So many were exposed then.
The DeSantis operation should have exposed many other fakes who sold themselves out for cheap.
The last three years should have opened most intelligent eyes. If your eyes aren’t open by now, you generally only have one person to blame.
I would guess Shellenburger has dual citizenship?
Well, his father is confirmed CIA, so…
The internet has truly turn meany people into complete Bassturds! And they want to make a buck of the internet no matter what it takes.
The amount of Grifters and Sensationalists is off the hook. The real disappointing facts are the amount of people who enable them. The Devil knows what to whisper in a weak person’s ear.
Substack early on became a cesspool for the ‘journalist grifters’. Wut, “you cannot read my stolen research for free”~ sarc.
There is a reason that some people are banned from X marks the spot. It is because they know too much, are the original researchers, gifting to the Public real truth, watched their hard work collected and monetized. Then ejected. Meanwhile the Psychopaths learned to morph from what Truthers responded with.
This Musk character is not your friend, nor anyone he promotes. Members are a dollar figure and rewarded a mere pittance by being monetized. And a person has to give up all personal information to get the money. Pure foolishness. Waiting for the big data breach.
Comforting fact for me, we all answer in the end, to the One True God.
“I have two words for this type of operation, and it ain’t Merry Christmas.”
Too funny!
he’s slow. he has done some work, but when goldman sparred with him, it was obvious to me that he was unprepared and actually did not take the time to check out all the angles of his stories before going to DC. this is an amateur move. A sign of weakness. I am NOT saying goldman was correct. I am saying he was unprepared. and as a so called journalist …well making extraordinary claims, requires extraordinary evidence. it was apparent to me he was not really solid.
compare this to matt taibbi, who was prepared and was willing to defend him work across all comers.
having said that, I am wary of both. They seem to have a progressive streak that poisons some of the opinions. which I suppose is fair considering that millions of americans are SLOOOOWLY becoming aware that they have been sold a lot of manure over the years…but it’s a fact that taibbi and schell are both financed on their work by mostly very left resources. so this isn’t a surprise they are “shocked” to learn these things we here at CTH have been ACUTELY aware of for years. We are not shocked…we left that stage long ago. WE ARE HORRIFIED…CONFOUNDED.
and that makes us more inclined to see the world as it really is…not as we are told it should be or filtered by some beach headed bimbo or the slick in a 4 thousand clown outfit who is paid to play the great game of pretending.
I am wary of these two, but I am also reminded that in stage 4, converts happen. they don’t automatically drop their former spots all at once. but they don’t make carry water for incredulous sources either.
just my opinion.
God Bless America
“…but it’s a fact that taibbi and schell are both financed on their work by mostly very left resources.”
Well, that sounds like a plus. That’s like NATO countries paying their fair share. Why should conservatives and libertarians finance every attempt to get at the truth?
Appreciate your attitude, regitiger. Right now, we’ve all learned to suspect everything. What we’re not yet good at is not forming an opinion until we’ve done the hard research, not just found someone who parrots what we feel.
I wonder if what Jesus said applies to our challenge to identify: friend or foe?
“For the one who is not against us is for us.”
I ran across this story on Xitter. It claimed a dossier of some kind was found, claiming to have the details of the Russia hoax.
I made sure to credit TCTH with a link in that post.
It’s almost as if the Barr / Durham “investigation” was yet another coverup operation.
Imagine that !
Now where have heard that before ? . . . . . Hmmmmm
“❗️March 2017 : Former CIA Analyst Larry Johnson shares insider knowledge that Obama used GCHQ to spy on Trump.
The week after Trump first accused Obama of wiretapping him (March 6, 2017), Larry Johnson revealed the CIA and FBI colluded with GHCQ to derail Trumps election campaign.
Larry claims they even had a, “Trump Task Force”, and that it was extensive and VAST.
This video has been deleted by YouTube more times than I can count over the years. And it’s difficult to find. 🤣 So may I ask, why?”
https://x.com/pepesgrandma/status/1759316969860579493?s=20
I saw this and thought slow roll to the party, okay years too late but… is this dope gonna help push the communist out or is he gonna remain part of the problem..
First thing I thought of when hearing all this was President Reagan and his star wars initiative as it was dubbed by the lsm. Thats 1980’s. (Eyeroll here.)
Sundance, again a Hat Tip for your exhaustive and granular research about the entire affair as the events transpired.
I personally posted at Real Clear Politics in regard Shellenbegers “expose” of the events connected to FISA and pre 2016 through Mueller. I posted a “Hat Tip TO Sundance” as the original source of all the information dealt with by Shellenburger. People exposed to false owner ship of research need to know the initial source that connected the scattered dots.
Shellenburger’s dad was CIA and Michael’s history is sporadic. A Greenie, ran for Governor of California. Then a journalist. I would say he is CIA.
When I saw Emerald’s story, I took it as a word to the wise, something to keep an eye on, but that a lot of the fuss we were seeing could have been just professional rivalry and egos.
I too think it’s a good thing that there are more and more people on this story all the time. Some have been at it for a long time.
Hans Mahncke is someone who, from what I have seen, usually stays above the fray, so when he made a disparaging remark about Shellenberger, I thought it was noteworthy.
ALOT of people never surmised a big deal about Rick Grenell and Trump’s declassification of documents near the end of his Presidency….BUT!!!! Sharp guys like Grenell and Nunes and of course PDJT MADE CERTAIN that the Obama/Brennan/Biden documents (proving the structure and intent of the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax) were isolated, declassified and obtained so that, when the time was right, they had the pudding of which the proof was made. I have NO DOUBT that the Mar A Lago Raid was made because some Bozos in Intel realized that they had just been had and it was going to take some doing for the Mountain to come to Mohammed, so to speak. When Intel realized that Trump had the goods, they realized their jig was up unless they acted. I have thought all along that President Trump rightfully had the documentation and now, as we all have seen, it will be just a matter of time. Dear Lord, please Bless PDJT and keep him and his beloved family safe from all harm. Amen!!
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I first heard of Shellenberger several years back when he said he was a believer in global warming but realised that kids including his own were being damaged by the fear mongering so he was moderating his attitude. I think he had written a book and was touting it. He did a lot of interviews then.
It’s pretty low class to try and dupe people just to make money……Sounds like how Ramaswamy made his millions. Have no idea why he is now in Trump’s orbit.
Yeap.
There are some things that come up in the ether that scream, ‘Hey, this is Sundance’s work from years ago!’, and that was one of them.
“Michael Shellenberger is a man of low moral character” ..
First look at the guy tells me he’s what Chinese traditional bakers call no mistake “cake mold” of one Arthur Engoron
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Give Michael Shellenberger a few more years .. replica of Arthur Engoron typeMy only disagreement with Sundance on this, is that I don’t care if he charged $9.99 for the info. Granted it is BS considering, Sundance, Techno Fog, Bongino et.al. Indeed did do all the research and disseminated this info. Years ago. Only, you can’t possibly underestimate the value in how many millions more people now know.