Two of the charges against Donald Trump are centered around 18 U.S. Code § 1512(c)(2), part of the 2002 Sarbanes-Oxley Act. As noted by Julie Kelly, “The statute was meant to close a loophole in other obstruction laws related to the destruction of evidence but left open to interpretation the terms “corruptly” and “official proceeding.”
In addition to Donald Trump, this federal statute meant to target organized crime and financial crimes has been used against 300 J6 defendants. Three J6 defendants have appealed the use of this provision to charge them with obstruction. A DC trial judge originally agreed with the argument and dismissed the framework of the Lawfare effort.
However, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit reversed the dismissal order.
J6 Defendants Edward Lang, Garrett Miller and Joseph Fischer appealed to the Supreme Court, which has now agreed to take up the case, U.S. v Fischer. In one way, this can be looked at as the Supreme Court reviewing the charges against Donald Trump, without ruling on the charges against Donald Trump.
There is a strong possibility the twisted Lawfare use of 18 USC 1512 by the DOJ will be rejected by the court, thereby removing two of the charges against Trump.
Washington — The Supreme Court said Wednesday that it will hear a court fight involving the breadth of a federal obstruction law that has been used to prosecute scores of defendants for their alleged actions during the Jan. 6, 2021, assault on the U.S. Capitol, as well as former President Donald Trump.
An eventual decision from the Supreme Court in the case known as Fischer v. U.S. could have far-reaching impacts, since the Justice Department has charged more than 300 people under the obstruction statute in cases related to Jan. 6.
Most significantly, special counsel Jack Smith has charged Trump with a single count of corruptly obstructing and impeding an official proceeding, namely Congress’ certification of the Electoral College results on Jan. 6. The former president has pleaded not guilty to that offense and the three others he is facing in the case related to the 2020 presidential election. A trial in Trump’s case is set to begin in March.
Arguments before the Supreme Court will take place next year, with a decision, which could threaten Trump’s charge, expected by the end of June. (read more)
As we have noted from the outset, Lawfare is a construct, a twisted manipulation of law, specifically intended for media consumption with the end goal to influence public opinion.
Special Counsel Jack Smith has applied twisted interpretations of law to his cases. The ability of the constructs to withstand judicial scrutiny has only just begun.
Jack Smith needs a gag order.
I propose a Colombian necktie, that would shut him up
make several of those neckties; Andrew Weissmann, Lisa Monaco, Mary McCord, Peter Strozck, Jim Baker, James Comey, James Clapper, and John Brennan to a few are deserving recipients. As is, of course, the Kenyan and his cronies.
Just saw Napoleon this weekend…the opening scene with Marie Antoinette being marched to the guillotine with the serfs throwing rotten bread at her as she passes by comes to mind.
Massive volcano eruption in Indonesia changed the climate world wide, severe drought ruined the French wheat harvests causing starvation and that is when the French fought for “bread”. She never said let the eat cake. But when has the media ever been 100% honest.
Now we are talking real “climate change”. Volcanos, sun spots, undersea currents and tectonic plate movements. Not whether Napoleon was driving an internal combustion horse.
If she has actually said that, the term “cake” would have referred to the remains of bread loaves stuck to the floors of the baking ovens.
Man has no control over those sun spots, volcanoes etc. So why he so worried about climate change will the EV really make a difference over a gas engine. No.
Historically speaking (I wasn’t there) I’ll guess mixed in with rotten bread was fresh bowel movement . The little people could produce it without permission.
Good start, the list is long…
Honestly, there’s probably more people that we thought were on “our side” that need to go. This could’ve been so easily stopped if we didn’t have so many traitors and sell-outs on “our side”. Barr, Wray, McConnell, Graham, Raffensperger, Kemp, Pence, Cheney, Romney, Ryan, Bushes, McCarthy, and on and on and on and on for days. If just 2 or 3 of them had a conscience, this never would’ve happened.
And seriously, if just a couple of judges had done the right thing, this never would’ve happened. That’s where I think everything went wrong. If the legislative or executive branch are corrupted, which it historically has been, the judiciary should check it with judicial review. However, once the judiciary is corrupted, there’s nobody looking out for the citizens. We talk a lot about the 4th branch, but I’ve often wondered, does the 4th branch even get a foothold if we had an honest constitution-minded judiciary?
Adding to the list. Roberts, Coney-Barrett, Kavanaugh, Gorsuch. There are only a couple of reliable SC justices. Seems like the four are full of surprises.
…and Mayorkas.
I would prefer giving them a Winnie Mandela “necklace” as a gift.
Hanging would be less messy.
But less dramatic
Hanging was tricky. Some times heads came off. Other times people were slowly strangled. In between, the neck breaks, quickly killing, but leaving the body attached.
I suppose there was a science to it involving body weight and drop distance. But get it wrong and you either get a messy death or a mess after death.
Is there a problem??? Cause I sure don’t see one.
Still is a science to it, with calculations in the Army’s instruction manuals.
Recall they nearly took Saddam’s head off, which was likely purposefully done.
I prefer the ‘ropedance’ method used by the Navies when they had sailing ships… throw a rope over a yardarm, tie one end securely around the guilty party’s neck, gather several sailors on the other end, hoist away, and watch the ‘dance’…
Aye Matey
Sounds like STEM research project. Lot’s of potential data points, as listed above.
Just fell a couple of them with lead and get the party started. ” Not till you see the whites of their eyes”.
Red scarf and doorknob?
Jeffrey Epstein’s extra prison linens and bedpost, no fingerprints, no security tapes, no loose-lipped witnesses, compliant coroner report. But it achieved the intended result.
I just remember the words, “peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard”.
Give him a picture of Elena Kagan, that will gag him.
Just stop paying them. Clean, no casualties and they will never do it again. They are simple people. They do all of this for money.
Overly broad language and scope. Null and void for vagueness.
We alone decide what you did wrong, and we are not telling you ahead of time. Book ’em Danno.
I fear a trap.
Correct. It is a political matter, as impeachment certainly is. The court should have declined it. They are trapped into giving a judicial ruling, Lawfare succedes where political process did not.It would take big cajones for the court to rule in Trump’s favor, and they don’t have big cajones.
With all due respect and excuse me for commenting off topic: Please replay the speech President Trump is making right now in Iowa. He is on the very, very top of his game tonight. I was surprised you don’t have the RSBN live feed.
Here is the link to the IA speech:
https://rsbntv.maz.tv/apps/3578/139782
Sundance just posted a new thread for Pres Trump’s Iowa speech. (thanks for the heads up!!!)
I just saw the link above. I wish this site gave a heads up on these speeches. The speech is over i guess but i am listening to a rerun. I am disapointed in tnis site for not letting us know ahead of time. Apologies for typos on my tablet but watching on mycomputer.
Stop being disappointed. Research for yourself when Trump is speaking. The current news about the SCOTUS getting involved is bigger than any one speech. No doubt Sundance has been very busy. For example, now the DC judge has put her case against Trump on hold.
commenters gave us heads up.
SD has posted and linked almost every Trump appearance at rallies and speeches. A miss or a delay once in awhile should be easily forgiven, and this one wasn’t even all that late. They will all be viewable as a rerun, also. If this is all it takes to disappoint you, I think you may be an overly delicate little flower. Most plants do better after being stressed, as a master gardener once told me. Here’s hoping. 😉
While we shouldn’t count Supreme Court decisions before they hatch, U.S. vs. Fisher heading to the highest court is a hopeful development.
The process is/was the punishment.
Exactly. Look at Jack Smith’s other high-profile prosecution, Bob McDonnell of Virginia. Smith prosecuted McDonnell and his wife for accepting bribes. Got them convicted. McDonnell appealed and it went all the way to the Supreme Court. Supremes ruled 9-0 that McDonnell was NOT GUILTY, and three months later the DOJ said they would not retry the case.
So, McDonnell and wife are off the hook. No harm, no foul, right?
EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT MCDONNELL’S DEFENSE COST 27 MILLION DOLLARS!!!! And that is money he and his wife are NEVER going to get back!
Smith, thank Heaven, wasn’t able to put the McDonnells in a cage. However, they’re a heck of a lot poorer now than they were when he started. Yes, in this country the process IS the punishment!
Let the games begin.
Due process requires sufficient notice that you would be doing something wrong – not after the fact subjective judgement calls, resting on vaguely and undefined terms.
Hoping this decision is announced no sooner than June and believe those bogus cases based on that will now be delayed from March to no sooner than June. Hopefully a negative ruling (as in this US code ruled invalid in these cases) and thus smith’s case crumbles. fjb and any in his corner.
Due process: A guaranteed right under the US Constitution.
—An established course for judicial proceedings or other governmental activities designed to safeguard the legal rights of the individual.
—A legal concept where a person is ensured all legal rights when deprived of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness for a given reason.
—The limits of laws and legal proceedings, so as to ensure a person fairness, justice and liberty. (Websters)
Sorry to say the so-called “supreme court” (lower case on purpose) is mostly made up of corrupt traitors who cannot be trusted to do the right thing for America. Any judge who says that a United States citizen does not have standing in a case determining who the next president of our country will be should be removed from the court.
They want Clarence Thomas gone, so Biden can appoint Kamala Harris and get her out of the way before 2024.
Using the Orwellian logic of the DOJ here, Hunter Biden is “impeding an official proceeding” by refusing to comply with the House subpoena. That makes more sense than the crap the DOJ and DC “courts” are engaging in.
And Rep Swallowswell obstructed the House proceeding along with Hunter this AM,.. bust’em both with indictments.
They certainly …….”attempted” …… to do this, didn’t they.
They do not even need to actually do something. Just leave their house in the morning and drive into Wash DC.
No wonder someone claimed Trump needed to be stopped from……… attempting…….. to drive to the Capitol Police Riot and stop it.
Bennie Thompson obstructed official proceedings (current) by not preserving evidence from their J6 sham hearings.
Roberts is a liberal and will side with the 3 whacko far left so-called judges — who can’t define what a woman is.
No-Balls Kavanaugh is compromised (by threats to his family made by Schumer, the fascist antifa, and BurnLootMurder).
So, expect this case to go against the J6ers. As well Coney Barrett had one purpose: abortion. She is a lib on all other matters.
Roberts is compromised
Robert’s WIFE is very compromised. And since Roberts is a cuck he jumps when she tells him to jump.
Judging from his actions, particularly on Obamacare, logical analysis would certainly lead one to that conclusion.
Poor assessment. Why are you doing this?
Like you, I’m not hopeful about this for the following reason: the statements of these prisoners-if one is silly enough to believe them-sound outrageous, and, as I recall they all make reference to the effect that ‘they went to the Capitol that day with the intention of creating a disturbance and breaching the premises violently because Trump told them to do that.
Of course, we know that anyone claiming such nonsense is not legit. They’ve made a deal with corrupt feds.
Therefore, if you are a judge that is searching for some legal cover for the purpose of making a political ruling to favor the Left instead of a legally principled ruling that would favor the Right, such wanton statements and behavior of these three fed informant clowns might provide said cover.
As I recall, these three were not innocently parading into the Capitol to see what all the commotion was all about.
They made overtly idiotic statements that Trump made them do it.
Maybe Julie Kelly can confirm what I distinctly recall re these three now-plaintiffs.
SC is corrupted so how does this go down?
Nothing justifies that statement.
If the Supremes rule favorable to Trump, it will be the first time.
I wish I could count on Roberts, Kavanaugh, and Barrett to rule properly. But I just can’t.
If they don’t grant immunity, every living president will be arrested! They won’t let that happen! These cases will ALL be dismissed!
No….not if we are a one party country now…like the old USSR or China. No worry about future or past Presidents then.
Roberts = Compromising pictures.
Kavanaugh = Wants to be liked by liberals
Barrett = Chameleon
Roberts most likely rode on the Lolita Express and is being blackmailed by the DNC who has Epstein’s black book to keep him corrupt
Tell us more about your involvement with CISA-CTIL, Smellville.
Roberts = coward
Kavanaugh = eunuch
Barrett = has Kavanaugh’s junk but doesn’t know quite what to do with it
Nope. Not the case at all. They are strict constructionists; not partisan hacks. Why are you whinging about this? Buck up and move forward.
Oh go ahead, You can. Give it your best shot. Otherwise one could conclude you are trying to infect the universe with negative karma. Why would you want to do that?
Please remember this is for media use not the court of law. Smith knows he’s likely to lose so the next play is “the court is hopelessly right wing its protecting Trump. Time to riot at the miscarriage of justice and expand the court to save democracy”.
Smith has a terrible record in court by the way.
Jerk Smith needs to be in one of Steve Inman’s videos! (as the recipient of FAFO of course) He’s on Rumble under his name steveinman
Some additional information:
[1] 23-3228LDSN2.pdf (uscourts.gov)
Let’s pray for the Lord to intervene. “The effectual, fervent prayer of a righteous man avails much.” – James 5:16
The Lord acts in mysterious ways:
Trump Prosecutor, Jack Smith’s Alleged Role In
Extortion Scheme While At the International Court of Justice Is Revealed
…John Moynihan, filed a whistleblower complaint with the Department of Justice Inspector General’s Office on November 28 alleging that Jack Smith, the Special Prosecutor pursuing Donald Trump, was engaged in an extortion scheme while he was working at the International Court of Justice. (You can find the complaint at the bottom of this linked article by Patrick Byrne.) It is no coincidence that Jack Smith, in the wake of that complaint, made an impromptu move on Monday (December 11) asking the U.S. Supreme Court to decide whether Donald Trump had immunity to the charges filed by Smith. Moynihan’s complaint was filed on November 28, 2023 and Smith, 13 days later decides to bypass the Appeals Courts. Smells like politics.
The Moynihan complaint is political dynamite because it provides circumstantial evidence to support Donald Trump’s belief that Jack Smith is not only politically motivated but corrupt. The Trump team wisely has refrained from piling on this news in order to avoid accusations that this was a manufactured hit job…
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/12/breaking-trump-prosecutor-jack-smith-alleged-role-extortion/
Thanks for this. 👍🏻 My view has always been to pray first about situations that we basically have no control over because the Lord sees absolutely everything. Nothing is hidden from Him and He can destroy the enemy’s traps in an instant.
Queue the next demand for CT to recuse… again.
https://politicalwire.com/2023/12/13/democrats-call-on-clarence-thomas-to-recuse-himself/
Right; ignore that BS.
It’s just the communists throwing a temper tantrum.
Justice Thomas is not going to recuse; there is absolutely no reason for it.
His didn’t back down in his confirmation hearings. All the hideous racist pressure was brought to bear on him then.
He eyeballed them and told them (Corrupt Biden and Killer Kennedy) he refused to be “lynched” by them….his word.
He has faced his persecutors once.
He will not recuse.
Were the whole Court made up with Justice Thomases…
Those hearings were a horrible display of attempting to humiliate Justice Thomas. President CrappyPants was the monster leading the charge.
A lesser man would have buckled…
Contrast and compare Justice Thomas with what he endured (stoic, resolute, unflinching…day after terrible day).
Vs
Kavanaugh (crumpled, panicky, crying his eyes out)
The mold was broken when Justice Thomas was confirmed.
He is absolutely rock solid.
Amen and Amen!!! And Sam Alito’s!!!
Leftists are so predictable…
Clarence Thomas is a living example of what a conservative with a spine looks like. If only “republican’ts” were paying attention…
Don’t the members of the Supreme Court have kids and grandkids. What world do they want them to live in.
That’s not how judges at any level are supposed to decide cases. Just the facts, and the law as it currently stands. Sometimes rulings make things better, sometimes worse, but they are supposed to focus solely on the case put before them, to the exclusion of the rest of the world.
Exactly!!!
Guess you never faced a Judge before. Most of them drunk with power or crooked. Notice I said MOST. I’m sure there is an honest one somewhere 🤔
That’s all well and good, but we know Roberts refused to hear cases about elections because he didn’t want to deal with the public reaction. So, “supposed” counts for nothing, especially in our current world. Save it. We are rife with corrupt judges and lawyers.
One where DEI rules, as multiple have their job based on it.
This is what I don’t get.
One where they are protected by the left from their Daddy’s or Grandpa’s corruption.
Could be fickle.
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“Nice Trump case you have there, Jack Smith. Be a shame if someone…shredded it and released all the J6ers at the same time”
Wishful thinking. Not saying it’s impossible. Just looking at the recent history of decisions under the most recent iteration of Roberts’ Court.
I always have a bottle of champagne chilling. But I’m always cautiously slow before pulling it out to pop the cork..
Reading the comments, people seem unaware of the intelligence leviathan’s blackmail operations against all people who sit in positions to challenge that leviathan’s power.
Not a good day for Jack Smith.
(1) The March 4 DC trial date (day before Super Tuesday) may be in jeopardy.
TODAY Judge Chutkan put the trial and pre-trial schedule on hold pending the outcome of President Trump’s immunity appeal. Pres Trump’s immunity appeal had been working its way thru the appellate court until Smith had a panic attack that the appeals process would take too long and would delay the trail. Smith is now trying to leap-frog past the Appellate and wants the Supreme Court to make an emergency ruling to enable him to keep the trial date of March 4.
(2) ALSO TODAY –per Sundance’s post — the Supreme Court agreed to take up the Fischer J6 case concerning the DOJ’s rather broad and creative interpretation of obstruction of a proceeding charge 1512(c)2. Legal analysts all seem to agree the timing would likely be for the SC to hear the case in March or April and probably late June for a decisicion. Impacted –over 300 J6ers and President Trump (2 of 4 indictements).
The left wants a conviction prior to the 2024 election, but Jack Smith’s planned timing is facing head winds today.
https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2023-12-13/judge-in-trump-election-case-pauses-court-deadlines-as-appeal-is-heard-on-presidential-immunity
Smith, Fani or Laticia will get a guilty verdict. Mary McCord went judge and district shopping and recruited true believers in these malicious prosecutions. They all know their cases can’t stand up to higher court scrutiny but justice is not the goal, obstructiing election ofTrump is the goal.
I truly hope he goes after them when he’s exonerated and ends their careers.
“When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.’
’The question is,’ said Alice, ‘whether you can make words mean so many different things.’
’The question is,’ said Humpty Dumpty, ‘which is to be master — that’s all.”
(Jack Smith is Humpty Dumpty, but with whole laws rather than just individual words)
Missing records…
“Jack Smith admitted in a motion yesterday that he took data off Trump’s White House cell phones to find out when he used Twitter
Smith also admitted DOJ could not recover deleted texts off devices used by numerous Secret Service officials related to Jan 6″
Admitted?
More like bragged.
Looking at the Court, I’m not optimistic. Roberts is for all intents and purposes part of the leftist bloc now, which means that in a best case scenario (Barrett and Kavanaugh don’t flip) it will come down to Gorsuch.
Who we already know from the Bostock debacle is a hardcore textualist, context be damned, who will happily allow the law to be twisted into a pretzel, completely detached from any semblance of legislative intent, as long as the “letter” is preserved.
The way J6 courts have weaponized 1512(c)(2) is right up his alley.
“alters, destroys, mutilates, or conceals a record, document, or other object, or attempts to do
so, with the intent to impair the object’s integrity or availability for use in an official proceeding”
Sounds like what the January 6 Special Committee did with their records. Or what Hillary did. Or what Mueller’s merry band did with their phones.
“impedes any official proceeding”
Does pulling fire alarms count?
impedes any official proceeding should be a misdemeanor.
that’s how I think about it. If I interrupt congress with a protest, or delay them, by protesting, it’s this really a criminal violation…if my intentions are to protest loudly and demand answers? sure, I’m going to get arrested, removed, and probably some temporary jail time..but then release with a fine and misdemeanor charge.
the only way this could ramp up to criminal thresholds is if the actions were aggravated…like, as someone mentioned above, pulled a fire alarm…said something threatening …not an insult, but some words inciting violence to a specific person. ..
this is the normal charge ladder I am familiar with, having a few encounters with police myself…not at capitol or congress, but with “official proceedings” (long story, don’t ask). And usually if the defendant shows remorse and does not have a record, and explains well the actions were not intended to cause harm…then usually a judge will suspend the sentence and adhere to a probation rule, with sometimes a community service requirement, and sometimes a fine if there were property damages, or a fine from a simple penalty. These are all things that can be negotiated in a normal court with prosecutors. Pleading guilty to a misdemeanor is very common in these sorts of situations. very common.
it’s remarkable that a judge would not have been more critical of the prosecutor for not allowing such plea deals. That one really sticks out. That the judge did not show integrity to ensuring the defendants received a fair trial. Obviously, as we have seen the prior summer and nearly every month prior, mass violent protests and quite a number of them allowed to plea down to misdeameanors..the non violent actors, with no records, who showed remorse and admitted wrong doing. There is nothing wrong with this ..it’s part of a normal justice process.
But what we have seen with J6 people, is they have been denied the basic fair processes.
It’s infuriating and this cannot be allowed to go on.
God Bless America
Illegal elections should carry the sentence of treason for the perps; maybe it’s time for the military tribunals to be responsible for enforcement of fixing elections to overthrow a POTUS or any government official.
SCOTUS thinks ‘obstruction’ is a better route; ya can’t make this stuff up. They let illegal elections continue without batting an eye. The states wouldn’t let it into their courts.
Legal elections are a thing of the past when the country becomes lawless.
The SCOTUS has shifted the focus from illegal elections, the sole reason for J6 protests and Trump’s lawsuits to ‘obstruction’; they are a day late and a dollar short, but have made it known that the 2020 illegal election will never see a courthouse on it’s own.
Illegal elections can continue; just don’t obstruct ‘their’ due process of obstruction; talk about legalese.
Illegal elections should have had jury trials across the US; now the SCOTUS has insured it will never happen.
God Help US
If SCOTUS decides correctly, is it possible to disbar the offending DOJ lawyers?
The contortions they have to perform to create bizarre new crimes truly illustrates the Lawfraud.
Better yet: in every case – nobody was harmed. No injury was suffered by anyone (other than protesters beaten or shot by police).
The J6 charges are stupid. The documents one is flatly absurd: Trump failed to “return” documents that the US government secured in his house and which they already possessed copies of.
This freak show won’t end until the Lawfraud perpetrators hang.
Just remembered where I’ve seen Jack Smith before.
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THANK YOU..THANK YOU….A million times.!!!.I knew I had seen his clone somewhere and have been racking my brain for it.. 👍👍👍👍👍
Royal Magistrate – David Gant
“Special Counsel Jack Smith has applied twisted interpretations of law to his cases.”
The whole DC federal enclave is one big unconstitutional catch-22 trap. As of 2023, the Executive, Congressional and Judicial Branches are compromised by the domestic and foreign traitors within our walls.
The Jack Schitt twisted catch-22 trap is the latest but won’t be the last of the unconstitutional, lawfare, administrative-state weaponization attacks against American citizens.
All of these illegal, unconstitutional attacks will be ended when President Trump wins in 2024 and implements one of the planks in his platform, namely The 2024 Constitutional Republic Mandate.
“Let’s go Brandon and the democrats and the GOPe!”.
So 18 U.S. Code § 1512(c)(2) could be used to indict Nasty Nan Pelosi for ripping up President Donald Trump’s official SOTU speech, live on camera??? Why the H not, she “mutilated” the official House document that President Trump delivered to her?
Make the Marxist Dims take their own medicine.
Will there be any CONSEQUENCES for the DOJ, attorneys, judges, etc. if the Supreme Court rules in favor of the J6’rs? I can probably answer that myself, no consequences, but from a legal point of view and a moral point of view there needs to be consequences.
if you have a chance, read sidney powell’s book “license to lie”. Within that book she explains how DOJ abuses the law without consequence. In fact, abuse is encouraged by bonuses paid for wins in the courtroom. it’s all very ugly business. She was once a DOJ Prosecutor. the one person she focuses on is weissman. DOJ is crammed packed full of weissman’s. Jack smith is just another paid hit man.
to answer: it would have to be proven that the prosecutor willfully and malicious abused these powers…for a example of just how impossible that actually ever happens, look no further than the DOJ prosecutors AND THE JUDGE (SULLIVAN) in the LTGEN Flynn Case. DOj prosecutors are allowed to abuse their powers. And they do it routinely…it’s the agenda to wreck the law and get the win. it’s all that matters to these scoundrels..forget justice or rule of law…we are dealing with absolutely corrupt scofflaws.
God Bless America
How does all this interact with the activities over in Judge Chutkan’s courtroom?
Headline: “Judge pauses Jan. 6 case against Trump amid former president’s appeal to dismiss”
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/judge-pauses-jan-6-case-against-trump-amid-former-presidents-appeal-dismiss
Waiting till June seems like an Eternity away considering what is at stake
time stands still. lurches forward. fickle, but never late.
Jake Lang – January 6 Political Prisoner 🇺🇸
@JakeLangJ6
THE SUPREME COURT HAS JUST GRANTED MY JAN 6 CASE TODAY!!!
All of the Deep State Prosecutors that ruined HUNDREDS OF J6ers LIVES are on FULL MELTDOWN MODE!!
Cont reading…
PRAYING SHE’s CORRECT !
Funny how Jacko conveniently forgets that little, teeny-weeny, micron-sized, tidbit…Trump wasn’t there, he was half a mile away saying be peaceful.
Apparently Jacko is one of those lawyers who define the world in their terms then argue forever about the meaning of those terms…truth and facts matter little over emotion and “bought and paid for”.
Ps. Today Robert H Biden deployed the standard “I’m guilty as sin” sales job technique of going after the facts with force, desperate to wrest control by being confrontational. The guy belongs in a Turkish prison.
“left open to interpretation the terms “corruptly” and “official proceeding.””
Those who corruptly impeded the official proceeding underway in Congress on Jan 6th were Pence, Pelosi, McConnell and the cadre of government employees who staged the false flag attack which initiated a state of emergency, suspended the election challenge and allowed a usurpation of the Presidency.
NOTHING THERE IS LEFT TO INTERPRETATION
Based on what Sundance said about the “emergency” being preplanned (and how many agents did the FBI have in the crowd instigating them? Notice Wray didn’t say “none”), and Trump being turned down when he offered forces early in the game, the whole damn cabal should get twenty years, Pence among them. If I were to hate someone, he would be high on my list.
And don’t expect the courts to do what they should. Save yourself some disappointment. Control your expectations. Just don’t let Thomas take a trip to a Texas ranch for some hunting with the boys. God bless Scalia.
I see the DC Circuit Court has stopped pretending to care about being objective as well.
Along with Jerome Powell and the Federal Reserve.
We haven’t hit Iowa yet.
Panic doesn’t describe what the Uniparty is feeling right now.
I had never noticed that the statute says “corruptly”. What does that mean that someone “corruptly obstructs or impedes an official proceeding”? I think it would be hard to prove that any J6 defendant obstructed anything corruptly – to commit fraud, to receive payment to do so, or sought favors in exchange.
However, the part 18 U.S. Code 1512 (c)(1) seems to me to apply to the January 6 committee and their corrupt destruction of all their documents so they couldn’t be used by any defendant, including President Trump.
I agree. now let me show you how the law that law maker create (congress) does not apply to them.
the VERY ISSUE of immunity is significant to understand. I wrote about this wrt consequences going forward if scotus effs around and finds out. That is not to suggest scotus will not find a way to male a ruling that will impact this case while at the same time preserving “officers” from the same immunity risks…obviously the black robes will have to understand even if they never discuss it openly, that if they rule on this case against preserving presidential immunity protections, the boomerang will end up causing much problem for ANY MEMBER OF CONGRESS< ANY OFFICER OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND EMPLOYEE AND VERY LIKELY THE BLACK ROBES.
so there is some very heavy duty consequences if the black robes screw this up and allow the DOJ’s hitman, jack smith attack that protection against POTUS.
ironically, you don’t hear many radicals alarmed with this proposal. And that tells me, they have not truly considered just how impact this will be on all of government officials. Scotus needs to tread very lightly.
Imagine for instance, a personal injury law suit from someone directly harmed from a decision made by the FDA? (because there are literally millions waiting in THAT LINE).
that’s just one example everyone can understand. But there would be literally HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF LAWSUITS AND ALLEGATIONS OF CRIMINAL VIOLATION THAT HAPPENS EFFECTIVE TOMORROW AGAINST A WIDE RANGE OF CURRENT AND FORMER US OFFICIALS FOR ACTIONS MADE IN CONDUCT TO OFFICIAL BUSINESS.
this is why I believe that SCOTUS will not rule favorably to jack smith …they must realize how this decision will open up the mother of all kraken. In some ways, there is a part of me that privately hopes that they make this wonderful mistake.
I would love to see all these government officials be subject to law enforcement, including members of congress. It would advance the trajectory of the transfer of power rapidly, which is very important to effect necessary change and order.
On the other hand the constitution is pretty clear to me about immunity and also why it is important. So I have to balance my selfish reasons for vengeance.
this may end up being the most important decision scotus is facing . (another case involving the chevron doctrine is also important and up for review/ruling..also impactful…I would also imagine there are going to be lawsuits wrt 702 re-auth/reform laws..no matter what is decided…)
God Bless America
Check out the audience reaction here. Very heartening:
Vivek has a platform and is not afraid to use it. I am thankful for his laser sharp focus on this message. And thanks for the borrowed audience CNN.
There was NO official proceeding to obstruct when the protesters entered the Capitol. The Capitol Complex was ordered to be evacuated at 1:26PM. That was 15-20 minutes after Secret Service discovered the second pipe-bomb. Protestors did not gain entry into the Capitol until 2:11-2:13PM, about 45minutes AFTER the evacuation began, which HALTED all official business proceedings. No official proceedings, nothing official that could have been disrupted. The Secret Service protectee (Pence) had already evacuated the building, so the Capitol could no longer be considered a USSS off-limits area. Official business did not resume until late that night, long after all protesters were cleared out. The only person who is guilty of “disrupting an official proceeding” it would be the pipe-bomber, who of course the FBI has pointedly avoided finding or discussing and the media has avoided mentioning.
When Trump told protesters to go home peacefully he was including uncover FBI. I notice not one of the Jan 6ers were not charged with insurrection.
Wouldn’t surprise me if Justice Roberts rewrote Smith’s charges to make them applicable like he did for obamcare!!!
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1734955975113580694.html
J6’ers actions cannot be associated with 1512 (c) (2).
However it is somewhat ironic that Bennie Thompson and the entire J6 committee could certainly be guilty of this statute because they have admitted that they have destroyed, withheld or otherwise not maintained evidence from their committee’s filming of witness depositions and therefore could not and/or would not turn said evidence over to an “official proceeding” of a congressional committee investigating the original J6 committee proceedings. Why isn’t Benny & crew including Lizzy Cheney being prosecuted?
The dem J6 committee report has been used as evidence in almost, if not all J6 trials. The chairman of that committee has recently admitted that they did not maintain all of the records that were part of the evidence and that those records were no longer available.
So how do the courts convict persons when it is a fact that the evidence used to convict them has been purposely withheld, manipulated, destroyed and/or otherwise unavailable for defendant defense purposes? I’ll wager the court was not advised that the evidence record was incomplete. An investigative record that admittedly has missing records is tainted evidence and should not be allowed.
If defense lawyers were not made aware that those witness deposition videos were available as Brady evidence it should be grounds for appeal or dismissal.
I’m not a lawyer.
In the sport of wrestling, it is not enough to simply escape the opponent’s grasp and walk off the mat. One has to turn it around and pin the opponent to win. Let us understand.