Sometimes I am required by disposition to drop to my knees in thankful and appreciative prayer for the intellectual and honest fellowship on these pages; this is one of those times.
When I describe the nature of our affiliation to those in similar networks, some of those you would likely call familiar, I am often asked why I spend so much time reviewing the commenting section of our diverse conversation on the porch. My answer is the same as the repeated emphasis I provided to those who rescued us from the Big Tech deplatforming effort… “the conversation is the point.”
You are the absolute best group of online people assembled. PERIOD. You are what makes me smile, feel optimistic, feel encouraged and positive about the future amid the whirlwind of chaos generated by the professional political class. Quite simply, you.. that’s right, YOU, are the modern WE THE PEOPLE. Feel good about that as you look at the person you see in the mirror when you brush your teeth. Give yourself credit, you are awesome.
An incredible conversation starts with one simple and profoundly interesting point from Lorrie…
“I teach humanities in a public middle school. The history portion of the curriculum is the study of ancient civilizations. I NEVER espouse either my personal religious or political views — ever!
Yesterday I asked my students to write down — as a quick write– what they knew about our current government– who is in charge… how does it work…
NADA. Zilch.
These kids write every single day in my class.
Many left the paper blank.
Most said, “I don’t know anything about our government.” A few mentioned who the president is.
Hmmmm…..
Ten years ago, I had students yammering their opinions on all sorts of political topics. I realize that usually they were parroting what they hear from family members.
Today, silence.”
Big wisdom follows from Paul:
“I don’t put it on the kids because in your original post you mention that 10 years ago, kids yammered away with opinions. Something shifted. It’s why I asked the question.
This tells me they are not hearing it at home. Their parents are not talking about it. Nor are others around them. Then they spend hours upon hours on their phones on social media.
They are isolated and being manipulated. They just don’t know it. And their parents ignore it because they too, more than likely, have been swallowed by the Borg.
Sad times.”
A simple response, with just as profound an affirmation from Oscar:
“Sad to confirm Paul but everything you say is true and has swallowed up my 20 yo daughter. The self isolation and 100% reliance on her phone for information is beyond disturbing to me. I pay for her phone because it helps her keep her job. I’m seriously thinking of pulling the plug and forcing her to pay phone expenses.
I speak with her regularly regarding current events, Gaza, Biden, etc. but have a hard time staying calm. She doesn’t read anything other than what’s spoon fed her through her iphone. She has zero historical context or background for any of her communist inspired rhetoric. She is completely manipulated. Her two brothers are complete MAGA and know what’s happening.
Her older sister is Lib and will not change due to peer pressure among the elite crowd in NYC that she works and socializes with. Obviously, my experience has been much tougher with my two daughters. I used to believe that a liberal is a future conservative once they age, pay taxes and are mugged by reality. My daughter in NYC has been mugged once by herself visiting DC and again in DC with her hyper lib, former college roommate (all within the last 18 months) and they both are still Lib. I will never give up on them. I constantly send them conservative, logical articles (VDH is a favorite) and I always try to lead by example.”
Please, if you are so inclined, let us continue this conversation in this breakout post.
There is large value within this discussion and trust me – I, along with millions of like-minded mules, some with a profound reach and beyond your imagining importance, read every single word with contemplation, introspection and appreciation.
♦ Last point. When you drop a stone into a pond a ripple is created. The ripple expands in an ever-increasing circle. Once you drop the stone, there is no way to reverse the process of the ripple expanding. Such is the pond of life and ultimately the love, wisdom and value you drop within it.
This simple fellowship we call The Conservative Treehouse exists, because of you – not me, YOU.
You are the point.
You are the value.
You are the gift.
Feel that…. along with my profound appreciation for your incredible value.
Love to all.
Steadfast,
~ Sundance
CTH is bar none, the best website I’ve ever visited over the past decade. It’s my daily go to… I learn something new everyday, from Sundance and from everyone posting… Thank-you one and all.
Like you, CTH is my daily go-to since almost since it began. I found Sundance through Lucianne.com, also a daily diet. As to the children and what they don’t know, sadder still is they, and often their parents, don’t know they don’t know. Too, these descriptions of isolation remind me of Sundance’s oft-repeated, look and study at the silo structure. It answers many, many questions!
I second that sentiment.👍🏻🏆⭐️
Yup yup again
I apologize.
Amen to that! I’ve only just begun reading the comments. Sundance’s articles were my primary focus and, of course, still are. But in recent days, I’ve explored some of the comments and am impressed by the readership, which seems head and shoulders above the usual social media jabber. I will be spending more time among the comments, but am already slammed by being a news junkie and reposting on social media all day long. I need to better manage my time.
So, to echo your comments, THANK YOU ALL, especially Sundance!
Amen
I am with you hanson Charlie. Whenever some big news story breaks or some nugget of information leaks through Big Brother’s censors, and my acquaintances are shocked, I almost always already knew about it. Thanks Sundance and commentors.
I totally agree and is also my first go to site every morning!
“The summer soldiers and sunshine patriots of today are fighting not with guns nor blood, but with a computer and words…A new revolution has begun.”
Thank You, Sundance for what you do.
I still believe that it was direct Divine Intervention that I somehow came across this site around the time of President Trump coming on the scene.
From day one, it felt like a homecoming, a true Fellowship more than a website. To this day I feel closer to my fellow Treepers than I do to most of my family who are all pretty much Demo-Commies. Good people in most every respect except for their lousy politics.
It is here at the Tree House where I have found immeasurable strength and much kindness from like minded people all over the world. If ever I’m having a bad day or things seem to have gotten completely out of hand, I come here to talk to my friends who always give me the best advice!
Above all I thank the Good Lord and Sundance for making this unique collaboration possible. Sundance is our scout, our scribe and most of all our fearless hero. I am forever grateful to all of you.
amen.
I found this site because I learned about the “splitter strategy” from elsewhere. When people kept talking about this site and SD knew about it in great detail and was talking about the money, I knew this was a place that was worth keeping up with. I try to tell people to come here whenever we talk about politics and stuff like that as being one of the few places that does real journalism and doesn’t BS people with the truth.
I found the Treehouse around the same time and knew instinctively that I had found the truth. I come here every day for the information and fellowship. Thank you Sundance and fellow Treepers. I’m honored to be a small part of this gathering.
Agree. Amen
Seneca, your comments are always enjoyed by me. This site keeps me grounded and eyes set on truth.
C. Northcote Parkinson, of Parkinson’s Law fame, described a hypothetical organization that kept large numbers of people occupied all day long, even though they had no contact with the outside world. Similarly, I wonder if smart phones keep people mentally occupied all day long, without much contact with the real world. Instead, contact lists, algorithms and paid social media influencers determine perceived reality.
Well then! And so it goes. Must say my experience isn’t far off from the reports from Oscar and Paul. Pulling the plug on my kids phone may not be easy but neither was getting off cable and network tv back in 2007
…never give up. Never give in. It’s up to us…
Be the light that shines in your family, be positive, be pragmatic, tell truths, speak of the greatness of America’s Founding, use your wisdom and always bring God into the equation.
I would probably answer the government knowledge-check the same way as the grade schoolers. A blank paper. The schoolhouse rock government process is obsolete. Who the hell is the President? Let me ask again. WHO IS PRESIDENT???? Who writes the bills. Our country, military, and treasury are run in a capricious manner when we know what is going on, and opaquely when we dont. How many wars without a declaration from Congress? How many continuing resolutions? Where is due process? Covid responsibility? FFS, Covid was man-made by our own government and nary an investigation. I could go on, but it is depressing. Our government is in transition to lawlessness, there is no way for grade schoolers to keep up.
Flat footed, Donald John Trump. All else is imposters!
There have been many Covid investigations, both by Congress and researchers.
You don’t hear about them because the MSM is funded by Big Pharma and they don’t want you to know.
You’d think that infecting the planet with a bioweapon (vaxx/covid) would attract attention from criminal law enforcement in DC, or in at least one of 50 states. Ron Johnson is great, Kennedy too, FLCCC, Gold, Late Z, Malone, good work on substack. Yet genocidal perpetrators walk wealthy and free. Yes I know there is a hearing every now and then. 50 states and not an AG nor Sheriff has done anything. Yet recent poll says 30% of Americans know some dead by covid vaxx.
I taught in a public NYS blue ribbon high school for 30 plus years, just north of NYC . Never thought much about politics, I guess mostly because I didn’t have to. I was free to think however I wanted to, and never felt like it was wrong to do so. My conservative opinions, inherited from my-strong opinioned but usually correct in that way-dad, were rather unpopular and sadly, unusual, for a female teacher in my position. But again, never thought about it, even when colleagues would openly criticize and somewhat mock my positions, UNTIL the 2008 election. And then it all changed. I noticed I no longer had a free voice to speak without being harshly criticized and mocked, but this time in the media. Regularly. And then I also noticed that the tone of the curriculum in
my classes was changing. I co-taught, in every History class, and every English
class, and information was being presented in such a way that the US was responsible for the ills of the world, that Richard Nixon must be mocked, that Roe v Wade was to be protected at all costs, that we as a nation needed to apologize for our actions of the past, grrrr, and by 2016, that a vote for Trump was a request to leave any conversation you might have been welcomed into before. Debate was no longer acceptable, and it was actually discouraged to engage in any. I was called out by administration for reading directly out of a book that the English dept had chosen, because of ‘hateful, harmful’ language that the author, a former slave, used to describe himself in the text, and it was at that point that I realized I could no longer teach effectively.
I have a child in college, a smallish Catholic college which thankfully is teaching her values in school which corroborate with the values she’s learned at home. She is surrounded with many like her, but, the one issue which is a major hiccup for all is abortion, which is where our schools, public and private, have done the most harm. My child is bright, well read, open minded, a true leader and accepting of all, but sadly would likely vote away many of her freedoms to protect that right, which is so terribly misunderstood. I do not say this lightly. It is deliberately misrepresented and amplified when taught, and is also ironically a right which many, if not most, women will never exercise.
I’ve used this before in a comment, and I’ll post it again…found it in 2015 and hung it on a poster sized post-it in my classroom until I retired in 2020. It’s a quote by Howard Laski, British economist and professor at the London School of Economics, chairman of the Labour Party from 1945-1946 and also known supporter of Marxist theory. Always important to check sources, always taught that context matters.
“We must make the basis of our state consent to disagreement. Therein shall we ensure its deepest harmony.” 1914
This has been lost in education. Fear, lack of access to correct information, and an unwillingness to listen to the other side will be the end of our culture if we do not revive the ability to debate and disagree in a healthy manner.
Last thing…found a chart several years back that I also had hanging in my classroom which showed media companies/newspapers and how plentifully diverse ownership was…well over 60 different sources. Multiple voices sharing different viewpoints. Necessary for healthy dialogue.
Now? Less than or equal to 5? Echo-chamber. VERY sad, and as we’ve all seen of late, VERY dangerous.
Thank you again, for giving me a place to share my experiences, to express my thoughts, and to hope, most importantly to HOPE, that we can find our way out of this.
In reading your comment, I looked back mentally at the above article and mused, how many of the children in that little exercise wrote, “I don’t know”, or left the page blank because of fear of the response to their opinion? Censorship isn’t just in the elimination of publised opinions diverse from the accepted manta, but the also in the threats surrounding a diverse opinion. I used to say, what is coming is the silencing of the lambs. Here we are.
Yes Paca, that’s most definitely an issue. Many kids NEED their phones, but they also FEAR what the phones could or would do to them if they say or do the wrong-think thing. The phone is required for most things now. Communication is just the tip of the iceberg. Not sure they (kids) could successfully function in any school/social setting, or even commercial setting, without one.
The boil was slow on this one. Some of us in the classrooms saw the dangers, but it was all about the technology. I remember our new tech person telling me…maybe 1997…about this new search engine called Google…how great it was. I didn’t even know what a search engine was!!! Few could stop the train once it started moving. And even fewer wanted to. Newer teachers looked at veteran ones with disdain and often disrespect at the lack of technological expertise. And then the power went out, and the young ones froze…their lessons were all online or in PowerPoint. No access. But, the veterans, yup, we rolled on!
Lambs turn into sheep. Ewe will own nothing and ewe will be happy.
Re: “…the one issue which is a major hiccup for all is abortion, which is where our schools, public and private, have done the most harm. My child is bright, well read, open minded, a true leader and accepting of all, but sadly would likely vote away many of her freedoms to protect that right, which is so terribly misunderstood. I do not say this lightly. It is deliberately misrepresented and amplified when taught, and is also ironically a right which many, if not most, women will never exercise.”
The following is the way my brain interprets what I’m reading therein…
“…the one issue which is a major hiccup for all is abortion, which is where our schools, public and private, have done the most harm. My child is bright, well read, open minded, a true leader and accepting of all, but sadly would likely vote away many of her freedoms to protect the right to abortion, which is so terribly misunderstood. I do not say this lightly. The right to abortion is deliberately misrepresented and amplified when taught, and is also ironically a right which many, if not most, women will never exercise.”
Please correct me if that is not your intended meaning. I sincerely hope I AM wrong…
I have spoken often about the Roe decision, and responded that if it was something people wanted to have as a right, then a law that was impenetrable should have been/be written. Interesting that it hasn’t been, or maybe not so interesting. It’s a hot topic, one that elicits emotional response, and one that is also a personal choice. I have never begrudged anyone their own opinion, nor do I want anyone to begrudge me mine. I do not share my opinion here lightly, and stated in my response that the abortion topic has been taught in such a way that students today, especially young women, have been boxed into a corner with regard to how they look at it. There is NO room for open discussion, and no option in any classroom I’ve ever been in when it is taught (the Roe decision) to debate anything about the issue. It’s a choice thing, no woman can be told what to do with her body, women have died trying to exercise their right, etc etc etc. So when I say that it is a hot button issue that many will vote to support…they might disagree with everything else a candidate says, but if that one issue stands, having spent my career with high school aged students, yes, that’s what I meant. There needs to be educated discussion about this, because it’s an issue that’s not going to go away. Certainly not for young, educated female voters. And the polarization of our political arena at this point is preventing this. I don’t know exact statistics, and I’m definitely presuming, but based on my sample space of 31 years of working with hs aged kids, the majority of the girls I knew did not exercise that right. Yet the best and the brightest, they defended it vociferously. That’s a fact. It may not be what we want to hear, but we must see/hear things as they are, not as we wish them to be.
It is a fabulous leadership, that when elected, shows its benevolence by granting its subjects permission to kill their children.
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We get the leadership we deserve. If they are for infanticide, nothing else is beyond their pale. Now you know why they steal, war, lie, pedo, traffic and everything else.
An essential point. Thanks!
The devil attacked Eve because she was the key. The queen on the chessboard, to put it that way. Fool, mislead the woman, and you bring down everything human, because she mothers the human race, each generation. The devil still does that, and abortion is the new fruit of the forbidden tree.
The counter to this is therefore the New Eve, the Blessed Mother. She’s the spiritual chess Queen to counter Satan. Hence her importance in Trad Catholicism AND for all Christiam witness against the satanic effort to destroy women via abortion or anythin else.
My apologies for causing you to go to so much trouble trying to re-explain what you meant by the portion of your post which I quoted and rephrased in my own words in hopes of determining if my rephrased version was what you mean to say. However, I’m more confused than ever. I don’t blame you for that. I should have been clearer in describing what I was trying to find out. So, please allow me to try one more time because I truly want to know if I misinterpreted that one paragraph…
All I need to know is whether the following is what you were trying to say. A simple “yes” or “no” will suffice.
“…the one issue which is a major hiccup for all is abortion, which is where our schools, public and private, have done the most harm. My child is bright, well read, open minded, a true leader and accepting of all, but sadly would likely vote away many of her freedoms to protect the right to abortion, which is so terribly misunderstood. I do not say this lightly. The right to abortion is deliberately misrepresented and amplified when taught, and is also ironically a right which many, if not most, women will never exercise.”
Thanks.
I also think the problem might be families rarely sit at the dinner table and talk because everyone so busy.
I am raising my granddaughter and all through her elementary and high school years, she was always involved and played sports. She is 18 now and in college and still to this day we still eat dinner together and talk…CELL PHONES were NEVER allowed at the dinner table! Even at her age now and after a long day she still loves to eat together and talk!
I think that’s what’s missing in todays world….dinners together.
So right Jersey. Family dinner, any family meals, and family conversation. My husband has helped me see that letting our daughter speak is the most important thing, so that she feels her voice and opinions matter, and she willingly share as a result. Definitely listens better, too! And when she doesn’t, we tag-team to make sure an important point gets driven home.
The dissolution of the family…and faith…is what the bad actors who want to destroy America, are making their mission. It is up to parents…and grandparents…to ensure this does not happen. Everything, everything, begins at home in the family unit. And being together, especially at mealtime, is imperative for stability. Never let technology replace the centerpiece of a child’s life; it is, and will be, utterly toxic and completely destructive, despite its relatively small benefit. And for what it’s worth, children do not have to be involved in a myriad of activities to be happy and healthy. But they do need the love, support, presence and involvment of their parents and family.
Attacks on the family were predicted by Mary at the apparition of our Lady of Fatima in Portugal over 100 years ago as a sign that the last days are near. Will we humans ever get it? I’m not saying this is the beginning of the end times, but it might be . I pray every day for protection of our precious children!
Indeed, yes! I have been trying to say this here also. It was the last girl who was a nun, who had been told to write down the visions she saw, and one was the disbanding of the family unit. “when Jacinta lay dying in the hospital in Lisbon, Our Lady told her, that the sins that offended God the most were the “sins of the flesh,” and that “many marriages are not good.”
https://www.hprweb.com/2017/01/fatima-and-the-signs-of-the-times-needs-a-closer-look/
20,000 people saw the sun dance, and her every prediction has come true. Yet still so many “don’t get it.” Incredible.
We’ve got Bingo!
Congrats to you as a grandparent for not only seeing the importance of family dinners together but also for ensuring it happens! Whether it’s a grandparent with a grandchild, parents with their children or all three generations together, it’s very important in a child’s well being and development.
Yep! No phones at the dinner table. It was an absolute at our house. As parents, we enforced it on ourselves to set the example.
When I got tired of my kids’ one word answers to “How was your day?”, I changed tactics and started asking more open questions like “What did you learn today that you thought was interesting?”. This would almost always lead to one or more in depth discussions on that topic or related topics.
How many parents are heaving a sigh of relief that their child isn’t giving away the ideas espoused at home? Happy that their talk has been unheard. Kids are tricky to control and schools are snoopy. This, from my experience watching children and grandchildren makes as much or more sense than blaming phones.
Yeah, I was thinking about “mostly parroting what they heard at home” and that more recently “they just don’t have anything to say”
Maybe the kids are no longer “hearing it at home”
And that might not be a bad thing … gnomesayin’?
The lesson for truth tellers is this: trying to convince wholesale numbers of people that they are going the wrong way will fail because they do not possess what Plato described as “a saving force of intellect and force of character….” Another way of saying this is, “…they do not possess good wills and honest minds,” although they might do so one day if they come to the Lord.
By the Grace of our Lord, it is the Remnant who possess this type of character. But in order that they may be reached one must speak through the masses.
This was the unenviable and burdensome task assigned by our Lord to Isaiah the prophet.
Our apocalyptic times are much like the days of Isaiah, and when truth-tellers come to learn the lessons of Isaiah will they be able to carry on.
For more than 21 years this writer has been intensely reading, researching, thinking long and deeply, and connecting dots to form an interconnected tapestry of truth so as to reach truth-seekers in the darkness of apostasy, hatred of God, heresy, nihilism, occultism, chaos, and evil.
It was around the ten-year mark that I realized—as many truth-tellers eventually do—that a majority of readers simply do not care to know Truth. Upon that realization was I was ready to walk away until by the Grace of God inspiration came to me through Isaiah.
So for all truth-tellers—be they Sundance and his cherished readers or pastors, seminarians, evangelists, missionaries, bloggers, or podcasters—do not give up or you will abandon the Remnant. Instead, let Isaiah be your lesson and inspiration.
Anyone standing out in a crowd gets noticed. And sometimes being noticed isn’t a pleasant experience. Reminds me of Melina Trump wearing a Grey overcoat to Roseland Carters funeral while everyone else wore black. She was mocked mercilessly by the media and the others that were there. Still, she persisted.
Paca, the manner in which Melania has been treated by the left wing media is disgraceful. They have been critical of her appearance, her accent, her Christmas decorations in the White House, etc. Yet, the likes of Michele and Dr Jill “grace” the cover of Vogue. Melania always looks stunning and appropriate for the occasion and she seems to float above all of the criticism.
These petty, small people even mocked her because she was looking down at the program.
Shes in a den of vampires and I commend her for showing up.
Am not sure I could have done the same.
“For I rejoiced greatly, when the brethren came and testified of the truth that is in thee, even as thou walkest in the truth.”
—3 John 1:3
I walk in the truth, and the sad truth is social media. I grew up with no cell phone and so did my 4 children until they were old enough to decern. Had to also raise 3 of my grands. They are great but can’t that their eyes off the phone. It sad. The phone has become a way of life for millions. They get mad with me because I leave my phone when I go outside to enjoy life because I didn’t answer them. I tell them to suck it up! I refuse to be a prisoner to a phone! Times have definitely changed and not for good.
Sundance,
God Bless you and your humbleness but, you ARE the reason we Treepers are here. Without you the Treehouse would not exist and each and every one of us would be much less knowledgeable, have much less understanding and be much more in the dark about what is actually taking place. That’s, of course, the evil cabal’s intent.
You, and the sunlight you provide to your wide readership keeps these cockroaches on edge and fear in their hearts of We The People.
God Bless you and may God keep you safe from the evil that is trying to shut you down and shut you up.
Never surrender. We know you won’t. Neither will we.
“My daughter in NYC has been mugged once by herself visiting DC and again in DC with her hyper lib, former college roommate (all within the last 18 months) and they both are still Lib. “
I wonder what their Af-Am muggers took from them? Cash? Phones? Apartment keys to use later?
And I wonder if these young women reflected that that demographic is the favored untouchable pets of the Left … or “Libs” (“… both are still Lib”)
… who can riot, plunder retail stores, and push innocents off subway platforms with nary a repercussion or consequence
I wonder if they reflected on those or any similar thoughts … beyond “still remaining Lib”
“Oops, I’m short on cash but I get my paycheck tomorrow … come back then and mug me again, I’ll have more to give”
Oh, the irony
Hello all! I haven’t posted in a long, long time, but this discussion motivated me to add my two cents. My mantra to everyone I meet lately is: “the antidote to misery is bravery.” We are the sentries at the gate and the evil must not pass! Courage!!
For example: A 77 year old friend has a 24 year old great niece who visited my friend with her mother (the niece). At the end of dinner, the great niece announced, “I hate America.” I asked my friend what she said in reply. She said, “Nothing. I didn’t want to start a fight. Besides, her mother should reply, not me.” I said, “That’s cowardly! You don’t have to start a fight. Just ask her why she says this…what does she know…what is she referring to.” My friend said, “It’s easier to let it go. We don’t need more conflict.”
And thus is why we’re losing the culture…young people don’t respect us elders. But frankly, most elders I know (like my friend) don’t deserve it. They’ve spent all their time trying to be relevant to young people so as to be their “friends” rather than be what they should be—wise. (God bless all elders who have, or would have, behaved differently). We elders cannot be “old teenagers” who make our points by scolding or shouting like a bunch of teenagers. We have to be who we are—battle-worn, experienced, knowledgeable, and loving (not affirming—affirmation isn’t love) towards the younger generation. We need to cultivate and offer wisdom and step into the breach with courage. But have we cultivated wisdom and learned how to offer it?
People think I’m harsh: “You don’t know what it’s like to deal with young people today. You’re not a mother.” Well, I say: “True—but I do know something about leadership and that is what you’re failing to be—a leader.” How did it come to this—older people ache so much for the approval of half-developed young people that we don’t work at fulfilling our own potential for wisdom and leadership so that they will respect and follow us.
For myself, I’m committed not to step away. My brand of courage always starts with curiosity… “tell me all about why you think what you do” and hold them to providing an answer. Sometimes it starts a conversation. Sometimes it starts a tantrum. But it starts.
Have just been talking with several friends recently who are a bit older than I am (late 70s compared to mid 60s) and they have all said that they feel “dispensable” now – their kids and grandkids talk over them and no one asks for their input or their advice. The youngsters all have “smartphones” and certainly don’t need to ask Papa or Nana…unless of course they need money!
True. however, older people MUST continue to bring forth truths… no matter their reactions. It is everyone’s (older or younger) to plant the seeds, and with prayer leave the rest to God.
Sad truth!!!
Good for you! Be the adult in the room.
Asking “why” can open the door to conversation and enlightenment, IF the individual will engage intellectually; as the last generation or two have been taught to act and react emotionally, exclusively, many will not.
I’m blessed to have an adult son and we are very close. He is our only offspring and has always been far more mature for his age than others. We discuss everything and thankfully he didn’t attend schools that were “woke”, including his college (2017 graduate).
Talking and being respectful to each other is the key.
You were on the right track when you said “ young people don’t respect us elders.”
Could it be our culture that exalts youthfulness?
I’m 75 and my closest friend is a 28 yr. Old young woman from The Chin Hills of Burma. Asian cultures hold wisdom and experience in higher regard than western culture.
Now that my children are middle age they are finally just beginning to listen a little closer. But it’s hard to get a conservative Christian word in edgewise. I did lead but that’s no guarantee that they will follow.
Hey Lisafcc reason I think that is why my kids don’t really care if I visit any more or not !!!
WIll say it took an 85 year old blasting my granddaughter’s crazy mouth when a no politics rule had been set..
I’m 74 and when they tried blasting my 85 year old friend I put my two cents in and took a walk. Lesson learned always drive yourself to functions more then 50 miles a way from your own car.
Do know My daughter did not appreciate my copy and paste of her daughter’s comment with my daughter tagged when i did a police tribute on my profile…I’d already blocked her daughter because I was done.
Not saying I’m old but, I’d wear this shirt to special places. or would i …
You are hilarious!!!
Considering those in prison are treated better than most old people in regard to government.
This is important.
Other than a few persistent 9-11 Truthers … I completely agree, Sundance.
I love you too Sundance and Company … Y’all are what keeps me focused and peaceful.. Knowing there are many followers on this site reading your blog and understanding the stress helps me move forward.. All is not lost
I’m not exactly a young spring chicken–maybe a middle-aged spring chicken–but perhaps my story will be helpful. When I was in college in my early 20s, the professor in my American government class quizzed us periodically by asking what we had read in the paper recently. As a young, broke college student (before the Internet and smartphones), I admit that I didn’t have much opportunity to see or read papers. Yes, I could have read some at the library, but I didn’t always go there, and if I did, it was to do specific research.
Fast forward to my mid-20s when I was out of college, working, and had access to online news. At some point, I began to feel rather left out and stupid about national and international affairs, so I began reading–of all things–CNN. Eventually, I found more reliable sites that weren’t always bashing conservatives left, right, and center, and that’s how I began to keep myself informed about politics and the world around me.
I bring this up for several reasons: First of all, I think that if kids don’t grow up in a household that reads and discusses current events, they don’t realize what they’re missing. Secondly, I think sometimes they’re not interested because they don’t understand how politics and world events affect them.
And there you have it Kudzu- our “unwritten” rule on our family thread is no politics. Unfortunately we conservatives didn’t get a vote in the matter. Occasionally my wife, who loves to stir the pot, will bring the wrath of Mordor to stifle dissent. I’m ready to join her-my grandkids lives are too important.
Right back, atcha, Sundance.
There is a dichotomy between what children hear from media and what they hear from home and family. And besides all of that, children maybe more than the rest of us have a more tuned “gut.” The spirit of the person let’s one know there are things not right about the world right now, and children are less indoctrinated than you think internally. This little exercise more or less proves that point. Most kids go along with the authoritarian pressure to stay out of trouble, they feel vulnerable. So what we hear and see many times is controlled behaviors and is not authentic.
But as time goes on, children have to chose a side, and they will often choose the path of lest resistance. Safety becomes its own reward.
True, when I was a lil schoolkid I tried always to answer what I determined the questioner wanted to hear, always extremely wary of conflict with adults in any way shape or form. My family was undeniably conservative—my schoolteachers were undeniably liberal. I had no strength for unwinnable fights, and teachers, well, you can’t win: they hand out the grades.
Then I went off to college (unwillingly) for a few pointless semesters and became the a**hole that I was truly meant to be. No wonder I love Trump so much…
Thank you again Sundance for this post. CTH is the best site ever for thinking people. Your analysis is always spot on & reading the comments a real education. God bless you Sundance & all posters here on CTH.
Something they still won’t discuss is our FISCAL mess, we’re long past the point of no return. $34 TRILLION and counting, when the next round of DEBT resets and interest rates are north of 5% our service payments ( not principle ) by the end of 2024 will be near $2 TRILLION per annum. Yeah, that pretty much blows the whole thing up, then what are we gonna do? They keep on SPENDING with out a care in the world, I try and stay positive, but I fear for my kids and grandkids. Pray Up TREEPERS!!!
Younger generations probably see the federal gov printing money and going further into debt and think “well, if the government can go into debt, why can’t I?” It’s a terrible example for young people.
I was out at my local building supply store today and most of the workers were talking about how they were dipping into their 401k because they couldn’t stay a float and they weren’t selling building materials. Same at the local car dealers, they cannot sell 90% of their cars and trucks right now.
What to do?
The Bible tells us to be aware of the times by reading and seeking understanding in it’s pages. It is enduring truth. As well, consider carefully Jesus illustration of the Prodigal son (and his brother). The father (a picture of God) did not chase his son to the heathen foreign land and try to convince him of his errand ways. But he did look earnestly for his son’s return daily and was over joyed when he came home repenting.
We cannot convince anyone, they have to choose the truth. The Devil seeks to convince. Recall the Garden of Eden and the Serpent’s temptation “Did God really say…?” It is our Heavenly Father whose words have the power to righteously convict. The question is what do we do in response to that convicting ?
We must be forgiving and open to loved ones returning to the solid foundation of truth.
Don’t chase after them. Do right in all personal life choices and pray earnestly for their return.
Please consider our times in light of Jesus’s words: Matthew 24:10 And many will turn away from me and betray and hate each other. 11 And many false prophets will appear and will deceive many people. 12 Sin will be rampant everywhere, and the love of many will grow cold. 13 But the one who endures to the end will be saved.
And
Mark 13:12 A brother will betray his brother to death, a father will betray his own child, and children will rebel against their parents and cause them to be killed. 13 And everyone will hate you because you are my followers. But the one who endures to the end will be saved.
It’s the destruction of critical thinking that the left has been doing. The enemy is within. I’m the old guy whose political views are wrong. Gas is too expensive? It’s because the job doesn’t pay enough. Food costs more? The supermarket makes too much profit. They can’t believe how much taxes are taken from a paycheck. It’s wrong, but they can’t equate who they elect to how they get taxed. It’s the fault of the rich.
It’s a conversation I have weekly if not more often. Whenever I hear the lamenting, the complaining. Lord knows what a blast it was before Election Day.
I won’t stop (much to their chagrin). Hopefully someday it will click.
Mathew ch 10 v 34-38
The Sword of the Gospel
(Luke 12:49-53)
34Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. 35For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. 36And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household.
Take up Your Cross
(Matthew 16:24-28; Mark 8:34-38; Luke 9:23-27)
37He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. 38And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me. 39He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.
“I pay for her phone because it helps her keep her job.”
How?
Over Thanksgiving I saw two grandsons, 15 and 10. (They about 15 hours away.) I lightly probed to see what they might say about the environment without using the phrase “climate change”. The older boy began with the phrase. So, I asked this question: What is water? The answer was H2O. I responded: If I give you those three molecules and ask you to give me water in return, can YOU do that? This led to a bit of a science discussion about creating water, etc. I then said, rhetorically, “So man didn’t invent water and most men and women can’t make water out of the three molecules, yet men and women make climate change?” I went on to ask if we can turn off the tides, prevent the sun from shining, or make pine trees grow as tall and live as long as sequois?
I let the conversation taper off and pray that as they get older, they will remember some of the questions. (Thanks, Sundance & Company… for making my world and that of my husband a far saner, hopeful, and happy place.)
It is very sad, the non-thinking prevalent today. In one of his books, “Wishful Thinking” Frederick Buechner defines sloth: “SLOTH IS NOT TO be confused with laziness. A lazy man, a man who sits around and watches the grass grow, may be a man at peace. His sun-drenched, bumblebee dreaming may be the prelude to action or itself an act well worth the acting.
“A slothful man, on the other hand, may be a very busy man. He is a man who goes through the motions, who flies on automatic pilot. Like a man with a bad head cold, he has mostly lost his sense of taste and smell. He knows something’s wrong with him, but not wrong enough to do anything about. Other people come and go, but through glazed eyes he hardly notices them. He is letting things run their course. He is getting through his life.”
Years ago my son let a left-leaning young woman move in with him. He now no longer thinks for himself and becomes combative when I challenge him. Heart-breaking.
I started making a daily visit to CTH during the Travon Martin imbroglio and have never stopped. I enjoy the comments but rarely write anything.
It seems we all seek an answer to questions that are not even being discussed other than on this site, and if there is a difference in opinion, often we learn more from reading both sides.
We are the people the government is afraid of.
CTH / Sundance – always fact based, impeccably researched, always right and important to the fabric of our country.
The folks that continue to comment here are smart, love the country and tenacious.
I feel blessed to have stumbled upon CTH’s existence.
As far as why these conversations don’t happen anymore at home: i know several parents who are dead silent about their political beliefs because when they have dared to disagree with their liberal college kids, they have been banned from seeing their grandkids! Ditto on getting the vax. My mom even lied to my sister (claimed she doesn’t even vote anymore– but actually she’s pro Trump, bigly). The cancel culture is so strong now. We lost decades-long friends over supporting President Trump. Ditto on chinaflu. You see stories in the news about public schools going after parents for something their kid says. People are treading so carefully now.
Good to know Google deplatformed TheLiberalTreehouse…..Can’t find it anywhere!
Going on 9 years here at the CTH. I read here everyday. It truly is my refuge.
I just, 3 months ago, returned to work after graduating from college this summer at 64 years old.
I had my first interview a few weeks before I graduated and was immediately hired. I really am enjoying my new job. It’s a good thing since I’ll be working for the next 10 years.
The most alarming thing I can tell you about what I have experienced is that, in the rare instances when my coworkers and I talk about what is going on in the country and I freely give my opinion, they look at me like I’m crazy. Then to a person they get quiet and say you know what, I agree with you. There is a look of relief and then a look of apprehension. People are realizing things are off the mark but they are afraid to say anything. It makes me very sad.
So now I found out I am going to work at a different location. I will be working for a know-it-all, loud Never Trumper. I have had a few conversations with him and he stood there shocked with his mouth hanging open in complete surprise. Thank you for the education Sundance. This is going to be fun!
YOU MUST GET YOUR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN OUT OF PUBLIC EDUCATION AT ALL LEVELS.
Grandparents, you must offer to help your adult children financially to be able to ideally home-school, or afford private school education with a non-#Woke curriculum and administrators/teachers.
Sending your children to college will do far more harm to them than bypassing those anti-American Marxist indoctrination centers where you’re playing Russian Roulette with your children’s values — and odds are they will return hating you and your values.
Bottom line most people under 40 could give a shit and are brainwashed by the US education system…They are manipulated by NWO Big Tech WEF and politicans they cant think for themselves and they dont care they will eat bugs and live in self contained cites…and be happy mindless morons…
I have been reading and posting to CTH for years. Not as often as others, probably not as profound, but from my heart. This post is confirmation that we parents, grandparents, aunts and uncles have an important part to play in life. I am 80yo. I am a woman.
It appears to me, that we as a family unit have lost our conversation. Not being a shrinking violet, I manage to make historical points, political points, and most important Biblical points. My son is very involved even though his job is sensitive, involves security, and government. His children are young adults. Politically aware, vote. His family is involved in their church, and practices Biblical awareness. My oldest daughter is a busy nurse practioner for a cardiologist. She is politically astute, but cautious. Her 3 children are less involved with current events. One of them is aware but is very caught up in the mob mentality. One is a traveling nurse, and watches her comments. The other is a logistic professional for an international firm that deals with china. She speaks chinese, has lived in china. Is very selective with political comments. These 3 young women are not involved in Biblical background. I talk about God etc…but they seem not to be interested. However, I know the Word of God when shared does not go out void. This part of my family lives in several different states. I do see them a few times a year. My other daughter lives near me. She has 2 daughters who are grown, have children. One grand daughter is does comment on politics, is a republican, guarded due to work, has little church contact. However, I do talk about God with her and her 2 kids. I also am involved with their care occasionally, as well as their school activities. The other grand daughter has 3 kids. She will talk politics but only if I bring it up. She knows how I think. And she is not afraid to talk about God. She went through some really bad stuff. She is now stable and has 3 very well adjusted kids who can talk about Jesus, prayers, Bible, and stuff…they hear conversations regularly about government, history, God.
I must add that I live in a very deep red state, in dark red county. The governor is very MAGA, and the legislature has provided the citizens with laws that protect our children, and us. So at this time we are not overwhelmed with the debauchery we see in other places, but these 3 families are aware of their surroundings, who is teaching, what is being taught, who is on the school boards (2 districts). We listen to the kids. Talk to them.
We all need to talk. I bet there are millions of us who can share our stories. We need to have a conversation. Look, I have had conversations with people who came from out of no where and told me about their child who was caught in bad stuff…We need to listen. We need to listen. Take those things out of our ears, put down the phone, listen.
Sorry for rambling. I am just trying to say I think my family and me in particular are blessed because of how I was raised. My parents were believers in God conversations, political activity and paying attention. I am from a very old generation. Conversation, facts and historical knowledge is important. My shop has flags, angels, and Biblical sayings stuck in with the tools, goat feed, dog food, and cats. I have a flag on the old antique tractor in the front field…right now it is also decorated with a blow up Santa, giant Christmas ornaments, snowmen and cow’s skull with Christmas wreath. I don’t believe my blessings should die with me…I must share them with my family, friends and anyone who passes my way.
Thank you Sundance. Blessings.
God bless you now and always!
Really enjoyed your post, GNanny. Thank you for taking the time to share. God Bless.
The cellphone is a two edge sword. Either way it cuts into the fabric of society causing an addiction that leads to dependance and control by those that are easily manipulated.
People pay a big price to stay in touch and thereby feel more secure.
Take A cellphone from anybody or lose it and panic sets in.
Your cellphone is controlling you like an addictive illegal drug.
Actually the cellphone is something we all should consider getting rid of.
Someone should start cellphone anonomus. CA
Step 1
today I will no longer use the cellphone.
Step 2
When tempted to use a cellphone I won’t call my sponser but I will go see him or her.
Step 3
I will abstain from using a cellphone for anything.
Step 4
If i must use a phone it will be a land line phone only.
Step 5
I will attend CA meetings several times a week as needed.
Step 6
I will continue to abstain from any cell phone use and work to help others kick the cell phone habit.
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You, Sundance, are a marvelous work and a wonder! Your have blest us and given us hope for posterity!
We are living through a zombie apocalypse. The social-media enabled cellphone is the infectious agent spreading the mind-eating disease worldwide with frightening rapidity. It is an electronic portal into hell. Once consumed by the disease the infected no longer see distinctions of gender or age, they no longer comprehend family-ties, reason, civilized behavior or moral laws. They know only hunger and rage. There is no proven cure. Zombies are never satiated, mindlessly violent and always dangerous. They cannot be reasoned with, cannot be bargained with and THEY WILL…NOT…STOP!
I posted my heartfelt comments, early this morning–West Coast time.
I taught my classes. After school I went to a meeting regarding one of “my kids.”
For some insane, atypical reason –I clicked on Treehouse instead of going home.
What a shock!
I am honored that Sundance shined a light on an issue that has broken my heart. I refer to my students as “my kids” because that is who they are to me. I want them to think and reason. I welcome debate and opposing opinions.
I want them to wake up for years in the future to a world like the one I grew up in. I want them to have the freedom to disagree– to debate.
They are so precious. We must fight for them.
I heard these words during a sales meeting once:
None of is smarter by ourselves, than all of us put together.
This community proves it every day.
SDNS
Has Sundance ever considered a discord server?
“They should have waited until we were dead and gone”
Sincerely
Gen X
😉
Synchronicity
The JFK assassination took place on November 22, 1963. This event is a marker in the decline of the United States.
Another event, although ficticious, is the date of the well-known John Galt speech in Ayn Rand’s novel Atlas Shrugged. That date is also November 22. (year not specified.) This speech occurs near the end of the novel when the economy was in chaos due to the actions of a socialist government. It is also a marker in term of the novel’s climax.
Would Carl Jung have classified these “events” occurring on the same date as synchronicity?
Amen, S.D.
Folks, the mobile phone is not your friend. It is a dangerous drug and a prison cell all rolled into one.
Free yourselves!
I’ll share this with my daughter and her kids. I try to pass on my thoughts as a foil to my ex and her liberal ideas.
Forget libs turning into conservatives, I am still waiting for republicans to turn into conservatives.
Actually, this should be the goal… turn libs and republicans into MAGA. Screw conservatism.
Sure glad and mighty grateful you picked up that acorn and did what you did with it, Sundance.
I see cell phones the same as roadways. once they are in place, you are forced to use them or you can’t compete in the marketplace. they dont necessarily make your life better.
when the shtf, take out the local cell towers.
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