[NOTE: Unconfirmed reports identify the gunman as Robert Card, 40, (DOB 4/4/83) from Bowdoin, Maine; a former sergeant in U.S. Army with 20+ years of military experience. Again, this is not yet confirmed.]
UPDATE 11:30pm ET: Robert Card (dob 04/04/83) has been officially confirmed as a “person of interest.”
(Fox News) – At least 22 people are dead following a deadly shooting in a Maine city that spanned three locations on Wednesday night, Fox News has confirmed.
Fox News has confirmed that the active shooter incident occurred at three locations— Schemengees Bar and Grille Restaurant, a Walmart store and Sparetime Recreation.
Maine State Police said, in a Facebook post, that there is an active shooting situation in Lewiston, a city of 36,000, 35 miles north of Portland.
[…] The Androscoggin County Sheriff’s Office shared two photos of the suspect, who was wearing a brown sweatshirt, and holding a rifle.
Authorities told residents in Lewiston to “shelter in place” and to “stay inside your home with the doors locked.” (read more)
(NBC NEWS) – At least 22 people were killed in the shootings, according to a Lewiston police source.
Fifty to 60 people were wounded after a man fired at several locations, including a Lewiston bowling alley, said four law enforcement officials briefed on the matter. The officials said the numbers were preliminary and could change. There were no initial signs of terrorism. (Read More)
https://www.wokv.com/news/trending/multiple-victims-reported-after-shootings-lewiston-maine-state-police-say/26XHYQCOWBG6BAHUIOTUVE2RXI/
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Governor: 18 people killed, 13 injured in shootings
Update 11:05 a.m. EDT Oct. 26:
…. A woman and six men were shot and killed just before 7 p.m. at Just-In-Time Recreation, a bowling alley in Lewiston, Ross said. About 10 minutes later, authorities got 911 calls reporting a shooting at Schemengees Bar & Grille, where authorities found eight men dead. Most of them were found inside the bar while one was found outside, Ross said.
Three people who were taken to hospitals after the shooting later died of their injuries, bringing the total death toll to 18.
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Update 10:45 a.m. EDT Oct. 26:
Maine Gov. Janet Mills said 18 people died in shootings reported in Lewiston on Wednesday, up from the 16 earlier believed to have been killed.
Authorities continue to search for a person of interest in the case, identified as 40-year-old Robert Card.
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Card a petroleum supply specialist in Army Reserve, officials say
Update 10:40 a.m. EDT Oct. 26:
An Army spokesperson told WFXT that Robert Card is a sergeant first class who serves as a petroleum supply specialist in the Army Reserve.
He enlisted in December 2002 and has no combat deployments, the spokesperson said.
A manhunt to find Card was ongoing Thursday morning.
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He enlisted in December 2002 and has no combat deployments, the spokesperson said.”
20 years and no combat deployments? That seems odd.
Petroleum Supply Specialist, basically he works at the base “gas station”. In the rear with the gear, as they say.
Though, of course, we don’t know if he has the same MOS his whole enlistment.
It’s a career.
At our buffet, one guy graduated hs, served a year or two at a major SAC base, moved to another, got trained up fueling all the aircraft, didn’t re-enlist in 1966, had a civilian job doing the exact same thing for another 30~35 years.
I have to ask …. How is it that this individual wasn’t taken out buy someone that was carrying a personal sidearm/weapon ? I thought that most Americans carry their own personal weapons ? Am I missing something here ? FYI – I am Canadian.
Unfortunately, most US citizens for conceal carry.
It’s estimated that around 100,000,000 citizens in America legally own a firearm. Of those 100,000,000, only about 12,800,000 have a concealed carry permit, so 12.8% of gun owners have gone through the rigorous background checks and training required for them to carry a pistol with them every day. In lower threat environments, like Lewiston, when involved in physical activities like bowling, many leave the weapon at home or in the car. My sense is that relaxed attitude when in traditional rural environments is changing.
I don’t believe 100m own firearms–that would be greater than 1/3 of the adult population.
I would believe there are 100m firearms, or more, in the U.S. and that would mean multiple firearms owned by a single person, which is common.
There are estimates approaching 400 million civilian guns in the USA.
I’m somewhat surprised, since it is Maine, but Lewiston is a very liberal city, and many residents won’t carry because they don’t want to be perceived as aggressors within the “multicultural” dynamic that has become very problematic. Lewiston was a problem 40 years ago, even before the Somali immigration. It was/is a shuttered mill town with drug and depression problems.
Lewiston was the location where a young Muhammad Ali (formerly, Cassius Clay) beat “The Ugly Bear” Sonny Liston, for the second time; an odd location for a heavyweight title fight.
yes it is surprising especially in Maine where a permit is not required. But it could be because it happened in Lewiston, and not a more rural area of Maine, that nobody was armed. How can you go bowling while carrying…seems to me a belt holster would be uncomfortable.
I live about an hour away from Lewiston and was following this event last night on my police scanner and internet. National media reported high death and injured counts much earlier than local tv stations. Too many people believed what they saw posted on various social media sites. Turns out the local media reported the more accurate numbers…the Governor reported them also this morning.
The hunt for the killer continues.
There are a lot of traps for the unwary with changing gun laws/rules.
Probably most don’t bother in some areas.
I lived in a city that had animal fatalities from various species. People died from getting kicked or mauled every year, death rate from scumbag, above national average. One tourist was killed by wildlife after taking one step out of a university building. So carrying a gun in car or person wasn’t unreasonable.
So once I politely and firmly stopped a young thug on school grounds – after an actual assault and battery, after school. Principal seeking to punish me instead of acknowledge the problem, started trying to entrap me. One question was do you have a gun in the car because there was a seldom enforced law about schools that might nail a lot of parents then (no – only when I go rural) and I had just moved the car onto the parking lot closest to her office…
When I had enough, I let her know if anybody was going to the police, it would be me as a witness to an actual violent crime. She immediately closed down when it dawned on her where things were at. She was used to intimidating parents especially the doctors wives, for the several years of her dictatorship.
I worked at a mid sized hospital most of my working career. A nurse arrived for her 11-7 shift and was immediately met as she tried to exit her car. Gunman armed with ak-47 tried to force her back in to her car. She grabbed her 357 mag. and started firing. She missed but he dropped his gun and got away. Finger prints identified him as being wanted for kidnapping and murder. Hospital threatened to fire her for having gun on property. We ( majority) employees threatened to walk out. She kept her job and life…
reality check: most people are NOT trained and mentally prepared and capable of engaging a armed shooter. Some have the ability and the weapon and the training, but most do not. This is NOT to suggest I am opposed to citizens owning and being armed at ALL TIMES. But the reality is that “we” just don’t train our reflexes, our awareness and the kind of mentality required to aim a weapon and fire on another human being. About the only time you really see this happening with success is of course with police but with the general public what you find is that the person who engages an assailant has training and lots of it.
this is WHY I ALWAYS ADVICE EVERYONE WHO WILL LISTEN:
do you own and carry a gun? yes, good
but, do you train and not just plinking out in the field, but in a designed course that show you how to do it, when to do it, and when to run and hide and never do it. ?
noting: a concealed or open carry permit (permit or not), does NOT necessarily mean that you are ready. It just means you have satisfied the minimums.
another reality: there be monsters. Buy a gun and learn how to use it effectively.
God Bless America
Excellent wisdom here, folks. PAY ATTENTION to what he said.
If you’ve served two years active duty in the US Army, are you eligible to carry a side arm?
I don’t think military service entitles you to open carry. Must be subject to your state’s law on that.
DD214 (military) qualifies in most states for concealed carry permit without training, certificates, etc.
Can’t imagine why. My DD214 verifies my service in the USAF. I qualified with am M-16 in 1972, but never handled a weapon the rest of my service.
my instructors offer ongoing training in various scenarios.. one must keep sharp and in practice..
……and how to secure it safely.
Great advice. Don’t forget insurance – or you’re screwed in many states.
If you have a gun for security, then insurance is a MUST. You are responsible for every bullet shot from your gun.
Have you been unexpectedly attacked by an animal/criminal that you feared and shot it?
At night? The adrenaline shakes really makes aim difficult the first time but is a life lesson.
I was once cornered unexpectedly in the laundry room of my high rise apartment on a quiet Sunday morning. Thank God for my Guardian Angel. I instinctively reacted in an aggressive manner in a voice I did not know I possessed. The guy ran away. You never know until you are faced with danger how you will react. Of course, once the danger passed I was a wreck shaking all over.
Most of the people I know in Alabama constantly go to the firing range and practice shooting a lot.
Of course a lot of those people are former military because of fort benning.
I myself was thinking about going to the range a lot more lately.
But I noticed more people in the south conceal carry a lot more than I know a lot of people up in Massachusetts where I’m from.
I can’t speak for “the north”. But I’ve traveled, extensively. Here is what I’ve noticed. It’s not really about the threat level that causes people in a community to bear arms. It’s more or less a tradition, passed from generation to generation. In my community, it’s not uncommon to see people carry EVERYWHERE! I’m talking about mawmaws and pawpaws too. We live along the I-10 corridor…a notoriously dangerous highway that will bring loathsome types. Word gets out. Calcasieu parish is not a soft place. The crime rate therefore is lower. people are more protected because of this deterrent effect. I’m convinced of this to be true. But I also realize that wearing a gun, isn’t the same thing as being prepared to get into a fire fight. Please refer to the advice given earlier about that. I’ve been to many many different states, counties, cities…It’s usually beyond the large cities where you see open carry, concealed carry…armed people doing their everyday lives. And yes, we have some of the lowest sexual violent crime rates in the nation. That isn’t JUST because its a solid christian society around here. Nope. Women know how to shoot and they are not afraid to show force. I’m convinced this has a deterrent effect. In other places where the crime rates, property theft, etc are very high…it’s the damnedest thing to notice how few people are armed. That is also no coincidence.
God Bless America
“I thought most Americans carried their own personal weapons.”
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Translation: I totally believed whenever American media says, “Americans are gun crazy and almost always armed to the teeth”.
STOP BELIEVING MSM LIES.
THE TRUTH: Majority of Americans do not exercise their Constitutional right to carry a firearm on their person.
On second thought, Charlie Forrester, don’t believe what Thus sayeth.
No, you tell your friends and immigrants that we all packin’! When Americans are born and they cut the umbilical cord, they leave about 5 inches with the baby and wrap it around a cute little derringer–the derringer’s serial number is on the birth certificate.
Now don’t forget to tell folks–every granny, cashier, and pickup truck driver in America is carrying, observing, and “twitching like a finger on the trigger of a gun.”
Most people believe that they don’t need a gun because they can call the cops.
My cop friend said that you better have a gun and know how to use it. Because when the sht hits the fan, the cops are going home to protect their families and it everyone for themselves.
Regardless, when a criminal is at your door, you have seconds or split seconds to make a decision. If you think calling 911 is your best option then, we will be reading about you in the papers.
“When seconds count the police are only minutes away (if you are lucky).”
It is not the ‘duty’ of a private citizen in lawful possession of a firearm to engage an active shooter, but it is certainly their choice to do so.
There are many MANY variables to consider as whether or not to engage.
Unless one has cover to shoot from or the element of surprise, a person wielding a pistol is no match against a rifle.
The objective of people people that I know that carry, if caught in a similar type of situation is to retreat to safety.
If there is no choice but to engage to be able to survive from slaughter or great bodily harm then so be it.
I conceal carry everywhere, but even so, I follow one simple rule, discretion is the better part of valor.
Agree.
My question exactly above ^
Also, all those people and no off-duty Police Officer, Trooper, Conservation Officer, Park Ranger, any number of Federal LEO? What are those odds?
The POS didn’t go to a coffee shop or an establishment that cops frequent, and yes, LEO’s do have places that they prefer to gather at, just like any group of employees that go out to have some fun.
I’d bet a cup of coffee that the POS did some homework and reconnoitered which places were most vulnerable and least likely to offer resistance.
Oh, btw, has the manifesto of the trans boy/girl that shot up the elementary school been released yet?
https://gab.com/vindex_veritatis/posts/111300895534399373
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I hate to always be the conspiracy theorist, but… These are photos of the Maine mass shooter and Robert Card from Maine, who is accused of being the shooter. I have a concern.
Note Robert’s shirt. Lisbon is a small town near Lewiston Maine near where the shootings took place. The LLHCHL with the little horse-shoe on it is the Lisbon Left Hand Club Horseshoe League. Mr. Card is left-handed.
The shooter is clearly firing his rifle right-handed.
The website LLHCHL. COM was just taken down.
What if this is another Lee Harvey Oswald scenario. Many suspect the CIA has a portfolio of mentally ill individuals around the country. When an act of violence is committed that embarrasses Biden and the democrats, the CIA feeds local law enforcement one of their patsies. Mr Card, being schizophrenic and recently hospitalized for hearing voices, is not going to be believed when he says that he is innocent.
No one will continue to look for the real terrorist.
Mr. Card will most likely “commit suicide” soon.
A terrorist attack will be white-washed into a call for gun control. Exactly the opposite of what America should be doing to defend itself right now.
Picture described here
https://media.gab.com/cdn-cgi/image/width=619.6363821029663,quality=100,fit=scale-down/system/media_attachments/files/151/407/141/original/c2f7e684a25fb1ac.webp
Interesting observations. As many people know, Lewiston has a large Somali Muslim population. Could be a false flag event and very well be a jihadi attack, but if that were actually the case it’ll definitely be buried.
That man in the picture is not “Robert Card” if there really is a man named Robert Card.
I agree, that man is thinner and younger than Robert Card. They attempted to disguise the weight difference with bulky, loose fitting clothes, but his face reveals the truth.
The photo of Robert Card shows a hair growth pattern in the opposite direction of the “active shooter”
Every. Single. Time.
Of all the video/camera shots they could have posted of him, they chose one where his head is downward and sideways, and his mouth and chin are covered.
Sorry, I just saw the other photos published where we do see his face. His face seems thinner in the gun rampage photo. I maintain they could have posted a better photo of his face.
An AR expels the spent brass out and to the right rear. For a left-handed shooter the hot brass would be flying towards your shirt (or down the inside front) which after the first time they do that, they switch to shooting right-handed. No real mystery here.
Never fired one so thanks for the info.
OK. Good explanation. However, the two men in the separate photos look nothing alike; they appear not to be the same man. Perhaps there is an explanation or one of the photos is incorrect, but as of this moment, something doesn’t match up.
That is one of the many things I hate about ARs. AK is so much better, user friendly weapon.
Deflector brakes mitigate that problem. I train both ways, you never know. But I also train with pistols on both sides, cross-eye targeting, it’s a minor challenge. Can’t tell you if I am right or left dominant any more. I jsut know I cannot bat right-handed worth a darn.
I shoot left handed and have not had this issue with the platform in 3 different upper receivers/calibers. It is true that the ejection port is in line with your nose but:
I’m not saying you are wrong and you cannot get hit, I tend to get hot brass on my support arm when prone or shooting from a bench rest. Exercise safety and always wear appropriate eye, ear, head protection, and if necessary long sleeves (like we learned in shop class). Now I have had hot brass from a pistol go down my shirt but I was in a booth at a range and it ricocheted off the partition.
Part of the issue with your theory is that not everyone is dominantly left-handed or dominantly right-handed. For instance, I do a lot of things left-handed such as writing and shooting a gun. But I throw a frisbee and football with my right hand. So he may just be a left-handed horseshoe player and shoot right b/c most guns are made for righties.
Not my theory just something I found interesting so passed it on.
I’m mostly right handed – activity dependent – but left eye dominant.
Causes problems let me tell you. My brain is cross wired LOL
Yeah, thanks for passing it on. Just trying to poke holes in any and all theories. Who knows at this point.
Yeah, my brain must be kind of cross wired too lol.
I throw left handed but bat right handed. I shoot right handed but shoot a bow and arrow left handed. In the state police I was trained to shoot from both sides. I write right handed and kick left footed. I’m pretty balanced.
That’s a stretch on wearing a LLHCHL shirt means he shoots left-handed.
Remember he was a shooting instructor, so it’s likely one of his students gave him that shirt.
First thing my wife said today: CIA is involved. This guy must have been brainwashed. MK Ultra anyone?
I’ll bet $1000 that he has been prescribed at least one SSRI drug in his recent past.
he spent two weeks this past summer in a mental health clinic. Some have speculated that it was a VA hospital because this guy is a vet. It has been reported that he was hearing voice and one of his ex-wives has a restraining order against him. Maine does not have a red flag law.
NOT a pedophile. That’s another Robert Card, different middle initial, different address.
Thanks for fact check.
Pulse nightclub
Parkland school
Dallas slaughter of police
SC church shooting
Las Vegas
California country conservative bar.
California terrorist shooting.
These are just a few of the extensive list of what “Deliberately Slipped” thru the Fan Belt Inspectors fingers and other LEO
Watching the news today and MSDNC, CBS, and ABC are all messaging like crazy with tons of police optics to “protect” us. Read Tocqueville’s Ancien Regime in grad school and learned that police don’t save us from leftist revolutions. No, the police are necessary to implement leftist revolutions.
When these stories start to die down, will be looking forward to the “exciting capture” by brave law enforcement story cycle.
Just downloaded it. Sigh. another must read.
Today, in the big blue abyss (cities and states) the cops are paid to be complicit with the NWO agenda.
They do it for a paycheck.
Just doing my job.
“There were no initial signs of terrorism.” Every cloud has its silver lining, I guess.
I’d say random murder is a terrorist act???
It’s a helluva lot more terroristic than standing one’s ground at a school board meeting.
Or even protesting outside and inside the Capitol building.
For all those looking for accurate updated info, please use links below. They are to a local Maine TV station and is a reliable source. Beware of posts on social media.
https://www.wmtw.com/article/maine-mass-shooting-manhunt-robert-card/45653863
https://www.wmtw.com/article/live-updates-lewiston-maine-mass-shooting-robert-card/45651829
A few of his apparently conservative viewpoints being touted by the left mentioned in that video.
Also: “He was committed to a mental health facility a few months ago yet released just two weeks later. Why and who made that decision given Card had openly stated his intention to do exactly what he did?”
How does a person who admitted he was hearing MK Ultra voices in his head to commit a mass shooting not get his guns confiscated by the FBI or ATF?
Something is rotten in Denmark, and it’s not the cheese.
when the wash cycle is done.. we will find out. it does stink to high heaven.
…POLICE TOOK SUSPECT FOR EVALUATION IN JULY…
…HEARD VOICES…
I posted this earlier, being an ex-millitary man he didn’t trust his Uncle Sam and kept a cache of un-registored firearms elsewhere.
How hard would it be for….
AI to enhance the video….
into whatever the cia/doj/fbi needed….????
Has this guy been found?
Or has the story been rabbit-holed?
at the time of writing this comment, he has not been found. Two varying reports…he headed to Massachusetts via rt 93 or he hopped on a jet ski at the boat launch in Lisbon, Maine where his abandoned car was found. I listened to this last night on my police scanner. Helicopter from New Hampshire was on scene to assist in the search.
Why I’m armed every day, every where, all the time. You’d think somebody in Maine of all places would have shot that bastard, eh?
The antidote to crazy evil murderers with guns is good sane and law-abiding Americans with guns.
Get armed, get trained, then practice, practice, and then practice some more.
We all have a moral obligation to our family and each other to do this.
Shape-shifter: HIS FACE.
https://x.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1717530766387855835?s=20
shooting and lockdown at joint base McGuire-Dix-Lakehurst in Jersey
TV news announcement
‘all clear’ issued
TV news
In my opinion,
I say there is the usual suspious nature of this being used as a distraction and to violate our 2A Constituional Rights.
For instance…. the photos provided are not of the same person and there is no verifable dates for the photos shown, etc.
The shooter was following a muslim, paki who is an assistant prof at ME in Orono. The prof is 42. He is a so called terrorism expert, international politics. WHY was he following him? Not long ago an islam convert, male, 19 was arrested in NY. He was going to blow a mosque. He belong to a muslim terror group. He pled guilty. He is from that part of ME. May or may not have an impact on the shooter. My question: was Robert Card an islam convert? Oh, prof’s name is muhammad asip nawaz. I ran across a report he is on Interpol wanted list. May or may not be of importance. Educated in Pakistan. PhD from KS.
Something is off. If he was truly mentally ill, why was he released after only 2 weeks. If he was on some prescribed drugs, what are they. Did he self medicate? Why weren’t his weapons taken after receiving mental health eval? It has been reported he is on fbi watchlist. It has been reported he threatened to shoot up a guard military facility in ME.
Robert Card owns or owed several properties in ME. AND he has at least 6 liens against him since 2017. He is not so mentally ill that he couldn’t plot, plan and carry out this heinous crime, and get away with it. (so far)
In my opinion, we put that label of mentally ill, on crimes too often. Humans are evil. Anyone who murders is not in a right mind. But to use mental illness as an excuse is getting old. He is evil. Dangerous. And they let him go to do his evil deeds, and take lives of innocent people! How mentally ill is that? fbi, law enforcement? His family lives in the area. The Card lumber company. What say the family?
I wonder what type of training Card would have been taking at West Point?
Police Took Suspected Maine Shooter for Evaluation in July, Yellow Flag Law Not Triggered
Police took Robert Card, the person of interest police are seeking in connection with Wednesday’s shootings in Maine, for an evaluation in July 2023 after he acted “erratically,” according to reports.
Card, an Army Reservist, had caught the attention of military officials after “acting erratically in mid-July” while taking part in training at West Point, the Associated Press reported. Police in New York were called and Card was taken to West Point’s Keller Army Community Hospital for evaluation…
…The question raised, considering the involvement by police, is why Maine’s yellow flag law did not come into play?
Breitbart News noted that Maine has a yellow flag law that allows police to petition for temporary confiscation of a person’s firearms.
Maine Public Radio (MPR) explained that the state’s yellow flag law had been used 22 times to take away guns during the timeframe of 2020 thru June of 2022. MPR suggested the yellow flag law “could be a model for gun control.”
https://www.breitbart.com/2nd-amendment/2023/10/26/police-took-suspected-maine-shooter-evaluation-july-yellow-flag-law-not-triggered/
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7+-hours of police scanner coverage with excellent commentary. Interesting.
I think he’s shot himself near his favorite hunting/ shooting range.
Nobody functions normally most of a life. Then, is without remorse after this atrocity.
MK Ultra
Why is this being ignored. He had had mental issues off and on, heard voices telling him to shoot people at the base. It’s in the article. They knew this and just released him and let him go, with all of his guns, after they knew this about him! This is Maine too. The base where he was are RESPONSIBLE in these deaths. The same thing happened in Ft. Hood, he was being reported to high officials for his weird behavior, and they did NOTHING. Apathy enables EVIL. “It added that law enforcement said Card “recently reported mental health issues to include hearing voices and threats to shoot up the National Guard Base in Saco, ME.”
Any bets FBI knew who he was? MK-ultra over the edge..
Shots heard at the compound.
Neighbors knew he was to be avoided.
As many have predicted, the evidence is likely destroyed to predict events leading to his decision to become a shooter
The timing is impeccable. The gun used is the target of the government to take from our possessions.
IRS agents are much sounder in spirit to be the ones armed and protect our freedoms as they take our money for “taxes” to be used for the purposes of the government that no longer works for us.
We still need more information as usual, but the media s already full of conclusions and the same “solutions” for us to trust them for.
The solution most here in Maine will choose is to weapon up.
My son who has a plane tracking app sent me a pic of police circling an area in New Hampshire 7:40 PM Eastern
Update
https://www.youtube.com/live/FgwB4tWpbRY?si=FuwAmdY6naXBTe0g
I was afraid that this shooter was LEO/military/veteran etc. As soon as I saw the picture, manner in which he carries his firearm, number of victims/deaths- my gut feeling was correct, he knew what he was doing…
The MSM and Democrats are going to come for AR’s off of this and the RINO’s are going to cave…
Police and other agencies have surrounded a home on Meadow Road in Bowdoin Maine and are using an intercom announcing, “Robert Card, you are under arrest. We know you are inside. Please come out with your hands up. We do not want anyone to get hurt.”
https://www.youtube.com/live/-LQgP_c_nNU?si=su12eJvdAlhlAgnM
Police have surrounded suspect’s past known residence
Agenda Free TV livestream
They are executing a search warrant at the house, and demanding he come outside with his hands up.
I wonder if he’s actually inside????
Turns out that what they are announcing through the loudspeaker is ‘Standard Procedure’ and does not mean that they actually know that he is inside the house
Oh well…….
ABC News says the cops found a suicide note written by Robert Card to his son.
ABC says the police searched the entire residence and found nothing. The police are leaving this scene.
Maybe more here than meets the eye. An ex-Army guy goes on a killing spree in Maine. An active shooter alert at a military base in New Jersey. Someone runs the gate at a military base in Texas, turns around and flees after being fired upon. Later, supposedly caught nine miles away, but no description of who it was. Just seems too coincidental that it all happened on the same day. After what happened in Israel I’m suspicious that this is all a warning to the US of what could happen here. But worse, I no longer trust the government, and media, to tell us if it is.
Thank you. I share your suspicions.
My cousin’s son was the owner of the bar and grill. Sadly, he was one of the victims.
For those wondering why nobody was armed, it is a very liberal city. Those of us that have a more conservative inclination stay out of Lewiston and live rural.
This guy should not have had the ability to be armed and should have been in a mental health facility. He said he heard voices and threatened to shoot up a reserve center.
This tragedy could have been prevented. But, because the liberals here decided to do away with the mental health facilities and put those people back on the street, this is what happens.
I agree. I understand that it is almost impossible to get actual therapeutic care. They simply fill you with Pharma Poison and consider you good to go.
It’s criminal. Or should be.
A society is judged by how it treats its most vulnerable citizens, and I am absolutely appalled by the high rate of homelessness in America, particularly among veterans. What a travesty.
Didn’t this guy come to them saying that he wasn’t feeling well upstairs before this happened? Is this confirmed?
Early on I came across something or another about a woman claiming that Card had come into the clinic where she works that very afternoon.
However, due to the continual rampant lies and misinformation virtually everywhere online, who knows if this alleged sighting is true.
Several years ago I came across information, where I know not, that it is almost impossible to get psychiatric care due to strict insurance rules, and that most people hospitalized have to be discharged THREE DAYS later.
I did not research this, it’s just something I ran across.
I worked as a psychologist in psychiatric hospitals in Maine for many years, and it is not really that way. Presentation at an emergency room with serious symptoms pretty much always gets you admitted. State funding can be obtained when needed, Medicaid, but this guy was already hospitalized for two weeks, I understand, last summer. That would say he has/had some kind of funding. The usual course of events in cases like his apparently is goes: hospitalization, medication, remission of symptoms, and release. Two weeks is a pretty good time to get him settled down again. Trouble is, they often then stop taking the medication and go back to where they started in a matter of months.
All that being said, whether someone seeing him in a clinic would pick up on the severity of his condition is another matter. Auditory hallucinations usually say paranoid schizophrenia, and those folks usually tend to be, well, paranoid and to reveal little or take off at the drop of a hat.
When they catch the guy they should test him to see if he has any hallucinogens or other drugs in his system.
https://x.com/wokesocieties/status/1717585131446194589?s=20
Fascinating.
At 1:12 pm EDT
NY Post …. Maine mass shooting: Live updates and latest news
Maine shooting live updates: Sheriffs with guns drawn race up street where suspect Robert Card’s sister lives
https://nypost.com/2023/10/27/news/maine-mass-shooting-live-updates-and-latest-news/
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NY Post …. Maine mass shooting: Live updates and latest news
Law enforcement officials pushed their next press conference, first scheduled for 2:45 p.m., to 5 p.m. (Presumably EDT)
https://nypost.com/2023/10/27/news/maine-mass-shooting-live-updates-and-latest-news/
Maine mass shooting suspect Robert Card found dead after two-day manhunt: sources
https://nypost.com/2023/10/27/news/maine-mass-shooting-suspect-robert-card-found-dead-after-two-day-manhunt/