According to a review done by Semafor of ad rates for the second Republican debate, technically the second of the first loser debates, Fox News has massively discounted the price for a 30 second advertisement to run during the broadcast.
[…] Advertisers paid a premium for airtime during the first Republican presidential debate on Fox News, but it looks like they’ll be getting a major discount during round two on Wednesday night.
Semafor reviewed the rates the network shared with one prospective ad buyer for both the first and second GOP primary debates. For the first debate, the cost of a single 30-second spot topped $495,000.
But the same 30-second spot during Wednesday night’s contest would cost just over $200,000.
Another ad buyer did not share the rates for ads running during the first debate, but confirmed that Fox was charging $225,000 for 30-second ads during the broadcast immediately after the event, and $125,000 for 30-second spots during the broadcast before it. (link)
At this point in the contest, the Republican candidates who are not supporting Donald Trump are simply showcasing their own selfish connections to the business end of U.S. politics. It really is that simple. These are not patriots who care about our country. These are self-interested representatives of multinational corporations and business interests who are paying for them to oppose Donald Trump.
I saw the following brutal honesty shared via The Twitter which deserves some attention.
“Whenever you hear someone self-describe as a “principled conservative” to differentiate themselves from MAGA, Trump supporters, populists, and common-sense newcomers to the GOP, and urge for a return to the “golden years,” you can confidently laugh it off as blissful ignorance.
For decades, these so-called “principled conservatives” have overseen and actively participated in policymaking that has degraded the family unit, delivered losses on abortion, brought you a 10-yearlong “assault weapons ban,” and ceded greater authority over and involvement of the federal government in education.
Not satisfied with the piecemeal destruction of society that they now bitch about for clicks, these “principled conservatives” carry their feigned outrage and ideological purity to the economic realm, blindly devoting themselves to protecting the interests of global corporate giants while sacrificing American workers at the altar of “free markets.”
When faced with the consequences of their neoliberalism—the displaced workers and their families, once-great American small towns and cities in shambles, the industrial core of the country gutted, and all the social ills that emanate from these realities—the response from these upstanding moralists is to hawkishly scrutinize every dollar that could possibly go toward alleviating some of the pain and suffering they caused.
In other words, “f**k off! you aren’t my concern.”
The false devotion to “fiscal conservatism” wouldn’t be so offensive if it wasn’t so easily discarded when constructing a national security apparatus that violates your constitutional rights, launching failed trillion-dollar regime change wars, providing foreign aid to corrupt oligarchs and regimes in quid pro quo deals, and subsidizing the social welfare expenses of other countries.” ~ JoMa
That’s a whole bunch of truth.
It’s the exact same thing we have been talking about on these pages since the 2012 fallacy of false choices.



We The People should take out ads and plaster them with MAGA and heckles of the grifters.
If you order now, we’ll throw in this amazing ginsu knife at no additional charge!! Use it to cut your customer base in half!!
Hey, my friend gave me one of those knives over 50 years ago; it’s still my “go to” knife of choice. 😉
Yep! But somewhere along the way I misplaced my bamboo steamer.
BS:
I’ve still got my bamboo steamer. Makes GREAT Sushi.
Grrrrr.
Can you smash it with a rock … and it still slices tomatoes wafer thin?
“Slice tomatoes so thin your In-laws will never come back!!”
Remember that actual line in their commercial?! 😄
RobJay, I think they Fox is throwing in Bud Lite for the sponsors to have at their debate “Watch Parties!” 🙄😏😉
I should start a go fund me to raise the $$ to give them 30 seconds of my piece of mind… like sh*t I scream back at headlines I read.
They’d just take your GoFundMe money and then steal all your businesses… Slowcobra.
Use only GiveSendGo f0r fundraising.
Mike Pence accidentally told the truth when he said the welfare of the United States was not his concern.
God was speaking through him.
So that was God who made Biden say that a “minor incursion” by Russia into Ukraine would be just FINE by Victoria Newland?
Actually: There is no Dana only Zul!
Nimble little minx!
Love that movie…
He’s just collecting his payoff for January 6.
Is he still clinging to his Bible … like the Pharisees clung to their Torah?
Proved it January 6, 2021.
The Ugly Bunch.
Nothing to offer but self-serving high-sounding rhetoric.
The smallest ankle-biters on the Faux American stage.
Asa is out of the debate tonight … Which begs the question, who is Burgum?
(I don’t care enough to look for it ..)
A worthless governor who paid people twenty bucks to give him a one dollar donation, only way he could meet even the low bar set by the RNC to get on the stage.
Yeah, tell me that’s not a big donor scam.
So I got this text today and I responded. Do you think AI unsubscribed me or a real person?
🙂
Lol I do that all the time!
Today, Jordan, grow a pair!!
I usually replay with Trump Won or Biden Didnt Win
I like to think its a real person who read it but Im pretty sure is all on auto bot. But think about the snowflake who programmed the algorithm that reacts that way to FU. haha
Butt hurt agorithm
i text back…”is this hillary?”
Igorithm –
Igor grabbing the wrong brain for Herr Doktor Frankenstein
That’s excellent! 😂
“MomenTIM”
How infantile.
I bet there isn’t anyone over 30 running the tech side of these losers’ campaigns…and it shows.
I keep reporting all those “also-ran” text messages to Apple as JUNK … but they just keep on coming …
Maybe you should adopt Mass’s technique. It seemed to work.
I made a short cut for my standard response: I’m MAGA, Bitch!
I add an FOAD for any running against our Champion.
I answer with: MAGA!
Yes Mickey. A big middle finger to them all
When Mike Pence told Tucker Carlson that he was more concerned with the Ukrainian people than American voters, he let the cat out of the bag because he accidentally told the truth! People need to wake up and realize that our so-called conservative leaders have been selling us out for decades! I feel like the ship is slowly starting to turn but fear that the damage under the water line may be too severe to keep us afloat long enough to make the necessary repairs. But God…
Every time I hear that sound bite I just want to hurl.
That lineup of reminds me of some cheap publication I saw once detailing the bargin prices for mail order brides from Uganda
they have mail order brides from Uganda?
Big Mike ??
That made me LAUGH
Advertizers
Are wasting there time with me because I don’t watch fox news. I don’t have cable tv nor do I want cable tv. I also don’t watch the partot talking local tv news.
The only exception is if a tornado warning is out.
The icon on my tv reads, “local fake news”.👀🦨
$ 200,000 dollars or Mexican pesos? Inquiring minds want to know!🤔
Nigerian Naira. 440:1.
Wrong on both accounts….it’s Vietnamese Dong.
No more yanky my wanky!
Donger need food!!!!
Excuse me sir, you take Dong?
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Maybe tonight will be the night they ask about Nikki’s boy toys. Shouldn’t they get at least the same amount of bandwidth as the alleged Trump porn star? And the CRAZY woman from NY who has a cat named Vagina.
Who wants to know how the Oval Office will be treated? All business 24/7/365, like President Trump, or monkey business like Slick Willy?
Who stands for freeing Assange and all the J6 prisoners?
Who stands for our veterans? Their healthcare still sucks, and they were apparently not even mentioned in the last horror show called a debate.
And the CRAZY woman from NY who has a cat named Vagina.
NO Mycroft. You shall remain silent!
When it is important to stand with Trump for the country’s sake, Vivek is in it for himself.
…as they all are.
You will see a lot of.
I found my treasure ads.
Trump likes Vivek Ramaswamy due to his business owner presence. He is mad at Nikki Haley. DeSantis turned on him so Trump is not a fan at all. Christie is mean and too nasty, he’s out. Pence is the Judas who will once again try shiving Trump softly. Fox will make of fool of themselves and lose more viewers.
Trump will give a great speech to the auto workers union members.
Tucker Carlson will come out a winner no matter what happens.
Obama will be watching the movie “The Birdcage” and dream of…
I want to apologize to those frequent posters who may be reading my posts. You most likely have noticed some of my comments have gone to the nasty, even somewhat personal side of the fence. I am a senior citizen, considered a combat veteran by our government while I consider myself one lucky son of a bitch. Certainly I have issues–neuroses which I try to recognize/control as best as possible, all the while considering myself to be neither liberal nor conservative; yet I am both, I want to keep my values, where I seek to be constructive in today’s society (ala Eric Hoffer). I have spent time in higher education yet know very little even as friends from time to time compliment me on my thoughts/insights.
I sense a major confrontation coming to the fore and am losing patience as my life rounds 3rd base. Bitter–yes in many ways, independent to such an extent I don’t take crap from anyone, yet seek friends who share their values and open affections.
I have for over 50 years watched a serious movement toward government centralization to the federal side where the inbalances are way too obvious…we need to de-centralize back to the States and realize the rabid (not so hidden) pecuniary sell out by our elected officials. The social realities in the USA are terrible, the little guy/gal are getting raped like never before. Lying has become standard procedure.
I am now at the point where I don’t want to spend my monies feeding those who vote and support the democrats and their pals. My anger is rapidly moving to the fork in the road…and I don’t think I am alone in such feelings.
I truly love and admire this site and those who come to learn and share…like my local VA hospital, it is home in many ways where I know I have people who will stand together and fight for the primary ideals this country and especially our Constitution has created.
I will do my best to temper those angers which are operating within me. I don’t want to be that person of 55 years ago, young, ignorant and one who follows orders from those who think they know best.
I don’t think anyone likes getting raped, as we most certainly are!
👆👆👆 This will be one of those posts you remember and hearken back to in the weeks and months and years ahead.
This former Army E-5 salutes you, RJ.
Never noticed comments that were considered offensive. Being of similar age , I realize I have up and down periods.
Reacted to an $800 water bill by threatening the lawn guy (in fl. ,Couldn’t understand a word he said). Told him if he ever stepped on my property again I would s…t him. Do I always react so aggressively?
These are frustrating times for people of our generation who fought for our country and believed in hard work and honesty. And now to watch this insanity that goes on everyday.
This too shall pass and pray and help others.
(((((( 💞 ))))))
❤ ✝ US
George Will was a “principled conservative” .
He then supported and encouraged others to vote for Hillary Clinton in 2016 because of his principles.
President Trump has exposed all the “principled conservatives” as frauds.
MAGA 2024!
You mean a “compassionate conservative”?…..or was that burning bush II?
George Will like John Kerry isn’t really Irish!
after 8 yrs of the Kenyan, four years of Trump in the WH and 3 yrs of persecution of Trump and his allies, it all becomes crystal clear who is a “conservative” and who is jus a “con”. This primary is all about themselves and their pockets. period. Karma will come to them like an unlubricated dildo
If FOX wanted to stir up a lot of real interest in the debate they would have RFK JR in the debate to destroy the War Pigs and Pharma Pigs all at once!
That bloodbath would be worth watching!
I won’t be watching just like I didn’t watch the first go round. These pretenders don’t interest me.
I will find a movie to watch.
If I can’t find any good movies, there is always the drama and challenge of organizing my sock drawer to be higher on my priorities than the loser debate.
I listened to Trump speaking to the UAW folks. If they listened, they’ll vote for him.
Please President Trump buy several spots and use them the mercilessly thrash the GOPe
Are you kidding? They would take his money, and not air them. “So sorry, our mistake…”
Is there any chance at all that PDJT had a sit down with one or two of them at some point? That he wants them in the race to split up the never Trump vote? Having Nimrata and Black Jeb in SC to push Neocon Ron to fourth place certainly doesn’t hurt.
Thanks for posting JoMa! Perfect!!
It is incredible that they do not get this. Maybe they do and there is just a lot of pretending going on. But if that is the case, they cannot possibly believe this will work out well for them. We The People are far beyond FED UP!
Fox News and Rupert Murdoch:
Unfair
Unbalanced
Unhinged
It’s a pukefest!
Frankly, you could pull any regular Joe MAGA supporter off the street, put them on that debate stage and they could articulate more convincingly to the public what Americans want/need in a POTUS than any of these RINOS.
Since Haley is viewed as the new first loser, expect her to get the most scrutiny from the others, leading to her falling back and Trump to gain a few more points.
What a waste of time and money!
That’s what the Uniparty does best BW… they can’t help themselves… it’s an addiction issue.
They’re not competing for first loser they’re simply vacuuming up corrupt donor dollars.
Lets face the truth, with few exceptions, politics invites every crack pot, uneducated, corrupt, degenerate, with an ego and an opinion to take the reins of this nation.
What do we do? We give it to them!
Our “look at me” culture, that values style over content, has doomed us to the abyss.
Consider when President Trump wins…in order to make meaningful change he is going to HAVE to fire EVERYONE working in the federal government and ALL the brass in the military.
I just do not see it happening.
I don’t recall hearing any of these candidates say he was a fiscal conservative. Or any sort of conservative. They run from that word. Fiscal conservative should not become a pejorative. It is honorable. But the Democrat lite that has become the Repub party as you describe is dishonored to the core, is illegitimate and these candidates for the most part are hacks and frauds. I can listen to Vivek, but the rest leave me stone cold.
Hahahahahaha ha … looks like the few viewers of this clownish side show are gonna see LOTS and LOTS of Fox Promo spots. Gawd … the boredom and banality of it all would put me to sleep faster than inhaling a rag soaked in chloroform 😴
🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
There must be a snuff film’s worth of blackmail on Mike Pence for him to even show his face outside his home, much less this garbage.
Chris Christ too.
“Massively discounted”, eh? Will Pfizer then run even more of their “Safe and Effective” Booster
adlies tonight?George Bush left office with the lowest approval rating ever recorded for a President, and set the stage for a radical Marxist to win the next election. That is the past the GOP longs for.
Please don’t make us look at these traitors – just put Loser No. 1, 2 etc. in the boxes.
Thank God I have plans for whatever night that’s on. Makes you wonder if the Meathead v Gruesome debate ads will be a fire sale. 😂😂
HAW HAW !!!!!!
Is a qualification for a candidate to be invited to debate to have raised in the last month at least as much as what Fox can charge for a thirty second spot of air time?
Thank you Sundance.
I’ve copied this … “Whenever you hear someone self-describe as a “principled conservative” to differentiate themselves from MAGA, Trump supporters, populists, and common-sense newcomers to the GOP, and urge for a return to the “golden years,” you can confidently laugh it off as blissful ignorance.
Reminds me of the bushCARTEL … “Thousand Points of Light (NWO)” and “Compassionate Conservative (giving the RATS everything they want)” crap !!!
Amen to that Twitter thread. Amen.
GET RID OF CHRISTIE FROM THE DEBATE AND TRAITOR PENSE, DESANTIS AND HAILEY.
Fox however is still pushing little Ronnie, front and center
Every Republican who persists in this charade, rather than backing the clear and the worthiest Republican front runner, Donald Trump, has to be treated as suspect going forward. It doesn’t matter how affable he or she is, how enthusiastic the feigned support of MAGA goals, that person is a wrecker, a spoiler, and on the wrong side of American history.
Anything short of exiting the race together with a full-throated endorsement of the clear and obvious leader of the party, and an equal condemnation of the unprecedented election interference being orchestrated at every level, is unacceptable at this point.
NOBODY CARES!!!
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Captain K’s Viewing Guide to Republican Debate Night 2.0
https://skeshel.substack.com/p/captain-ks-viewing-guide-to-republican
There is a ‘debate’ tonight?
Does anyone still watch Fox?
Its tonight?
Welcome to Murdoch’s House of Discounted Halloween Horrors and Frights
Dang it’s like I need to sign up for twitter just to see replies.
The real job for the media tonight is to launch Gavin Newsom –
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