This is a little goofy, and likely another expression of the Beijing dragon doing the propaganda dance. According to multiple media sources a high altitude “spy balloon” is drifting over U.S. airspace and the Pentagon has discussed options for shooting it down yet they didn’t.
It’s goofy because the balloon is floating well above commercial airline routes and, well, what could China capture via balloon that they are not already capturing via satellite surveillance. It’s just odd. {Direct Rumble Link}
I can understand not shooting it down – after all, that approach would likely then involve bits of the thing falling to the ground, which then would pose both a hazard and a need to collect all the debris. It seems more like a Beijing propaganda effort than an actual risk to any U.S. military interests.
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Washington DC – House Speaker Kevin McCarthy on Thursday night called for a briefing of the “Gang of Eight” — the group of lawmakers charged with reviewing the nation’s most sensitive intelligence information — following reports of a Chinese spy balloon flying over Montana.
“China’s brazen disregard for U.S. sovereignty is a destabilizing action that must be addressed, and President Biden cannot be silent,” McCarthy tweeted. “I am requesting a Gang of Eight briefing.” (read more)
Have no fear, the Pentagon is investigating with their best men, whoops – I mean people, or people-kind, or non-binary persons who are within what we previously called the U.S. military, or defense dept. Whatever all that is now….
Wait! That’s not a moon!
That’s also NOT Stacy Ahbrams after going to Chipotole!
Actually it’s China and their lackey Biden mooning the USA
Yes, I suspected it was straight up false flag. But now China has apologized and said it is a lost weather balloon. And that makes the MOST sense of anything heard. Can the YEEHAW crowd please put away their war drums, ffs.
And you believe it’s a “lost weather balloon”; you’re kidding, right? No, I know you’re not.
This is a good article to read. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/washington-secrets/balloons-called-top-delivery-platform-for-nuclear-emp-attack
Exactly on target. EMP is the easiest way to take down an area and put them in the dark ages. The fact that the military is willing to let this thing fly without knowing what it is carrying is amazing and disgraceful.
Yes, thanks, read it from YYR’s post.
A literal trial balloon.
If it’s “lost” then they’re obviously not concerned about it and won’t even know or care if we do shoot it down.. just goes “lost” again
What a ridiculous take.
https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonexaminer.com%2Fnews%2Fwashington-secrets%2Fballoons-called-top-delivery-platform-for-nuclear-emp-attack
Did you see the pattern the balloon has taken since leaving China?
It did not go “off course” and did not just willy-nilly find it’s way over our air space.
We have been invaded and both our military and President OK’d it.
Of course our real President said to shoot it down. . .
Go to windy.com and look at winds at the 250-150 mb isobar and you’ll see that if you were to launch a high altitude balloon from just about anywhere in China, upper level winds would carry it straight across the Pacific and over either Canada or the US, depending on which branch of the jet stream it took.
Haven’t seen its bearing latitude, longitude, altitude and how the wind might be pushing it around. It doesn’t appear to be tracking down our merry way, but if it did I’d like to try a bead on it one of my M1A’s. Nothing too heroic from the bench. And I’m liking the recent workup of 168 gr. SMKs over 40.5 grains of IMR4895, LC Case, CCI 34 primer through this ones 22″ LRB/SAK med weight tube. Thing is I can’t in anticipation find anything on its ALTITUDE and can’t be wasting loads at current prices. This thing looks to be pretty high up, no? Probably also guided by U.S. technology taken from the drone that was captured by Iran years back and sent to Pakistan and China to be reverse engineerd. There will be NO consequences this time either as things continue to spin out of control.
maybe not..
Your on the right track. I too wish you got a crack at it.
Now the invasion is the Southern and Western borders.
Read this article before dismissing this. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/washington-secrets/balloons-called-top-delivery-platform-for-nuclear-emp-attack
Good article. Most now claiming the right to vote in this Country, let alone be worthy of it, are likely also clueless as to these “fugos” which landed throughout the northwest during WWII. I remember reading about this a few years back. That write up conveyed more of these things launced by Japan came down in remote areas of the NW and in N. California. A hiker in western WA. also detonated one which killed him, I think this one was the first recorded https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/six-killed-in-oregon-by-japanese-bomb.
During War II the Japanese, tried hard to direct/control their balloons without real success. I believe we have reason to suspect that these did not originate in China or from the Japanese.
Someone with a good telescope or satellite may want to validate their path.
The problem with being too good of a marksman. It’s not natural from China.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoEDEGGXEAIvx2u?format=jpg
And here he is Patriots … CNN’s viewer.
Crashed in Area 56.1?
Trump says “shoot it down”; he’s right, of course.
But, if Trump were the rightful/current WH occupant, it wouldn’t be there in the first place.
If Pres. Trump (and by extension us) wasn’t cheated, we wouldn’t be facing a Economic Depression and a land war with Russia.
Nor would there be an attempted world-wide Holodomor.
Not only was President Donald Trump among the steadiest hands of all former presidents (with the possible exception of Eisenhower), but he was also the most accurate in hitting the mark, both in regard to the specific policies that he chose, as well as the success they achieved. This record of steady, accurate success belied, of course, the constant lies of the maniacal communist scribes who needed to paint a picture of a wild, out-of-control president, and all along Deep State provided all the proper atmospherics necessary to make the propaganda stick. But now the false painted picture is starting to melt. Soon people will be asking important questions, and soon, those questions will be answered.
Nobody in media, beside Sundance, has advanced this cause more than Tucker Carlson who reaches the precise demographic that needs to hear, finally, the truth.
Not saying this is happening in this case, but I wonder if balloons can be used to release chemical or biological agents?
Japan did it in WW2.
There were also Forest Fires caused by Japanese Fire Balloons in WW2 also.
The Palestinians did that to Israel just last year
EMPs.
https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonexaminer.com%2Fnews%2Fwashington-secrets%2Fballoons-called-top-delivery-platform-for-nuclear-emp-attack
Winner! Winner! Chicken dinner! Ding, Ding ding!
An EMP will approach north America from the south.
And at much much higher altitude.
For a population set up for a biological agent that only affects mrna vax recipients, it could be a very discrete delivery method.
The more I think about this the more I am believing the chicoms jerked our chains. They knew the “right wing” would go bananas over another example the junta’s incompetence. We on the right are way too predictable.
What’s next? A bunch of high altitude spy balloons floating by with a high altitude spy clown holding on to them?
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/washington-secrets/balloons-called-top-delivery-platform-for-nuclear-emp-attack
Maybe this is why they aren’t shooting it down…it may be set to EMP the entire western US.
That would be a really smart way to walk an EMP weapon into the US w/o firing a missile that would be shot down. Once an EMP goes off, it’ll be too late to do anything about it. This balloon should have been shot down BEFORE it entered US airspace. Now that it’s here, we should shoot it down, investigate what is actually its payload, and display it to the world.
The US is into balloon warfare big time. All very hush, hush, you know.
“Raven Aerostar produced a brief video in July of 2020, seen below, explaining the Thunderhead’s capabilities, emphasizing its ability to linger at extremely high altitudes over contested airspace.
OOoohhh, I don’t like their name.
Buzzard Aerostar would be much better.
I guess I won’t be able to ask what % know about EMPs anymore…
I was about to make a joke about saying that EMP was a band in the 1990’s who had a song called “Loosing my Religion” 😛
But seriously, only Pres. Trump took EMP seriously.
https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/435917-trump-signs-executive-order-on-protecting-us-from-potential-emp-attacks/
And it’s not just potential EMP attacks, it also protects the Electrical Grid from strong Solar Flares that could know the Grid down for month.
It’s a delivery vehicle for authentic Chinese food.
Probably cosponsored by Pfizer, complete with a massive countrywide drop of their new COVID mutation.
The American Government, and the American Military, are now complete global laughingstocks.
And if the American People don’t do something about it soon, we will be, too.
“Stop the Russians”? These clowns can’t even shoot down a hostile balloon, maneuvering itself across our Heartland.
Why not shoot it down? During Bush or was it Barry, they for e us to land a military jet in china…and then kept the jet.
That was an EP-3.
I’m seeing people suggest it isn’t being shot down because it could detonate a payload if it has one. This makes little sense to me:
If it had an EMP-capable payload, blowing it as far away from the Central US would seem the way to go. Blowing it over Montana would limit how much territory the blast would blanket…
Of course, if Washington + the CCP are partners (actually employees of the Davos Crew) as I guess – then – our government letting it reach the middle of the nation where it could blow a payload for maximum effect – would make sense…
The press conference just held quickly veered into parody.
Fun fact: people love saying the word ‘balloon’ and will use the opportunity to say it as often as possible.
What would you call it?
Barroon, obviously.
FOUND ANOTHER FLAG OFFICER to TAKE Admiral KIRBY’s job
https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/watch-live-pentagon-holds-emergency-press-conference/
Kirby had some sort of ‘breakdown’
Thats leftist propaganda
So, you’re the one holding it up with all this hot air you are spewing… “… 70000 feet where the satellites orbit…” – c’mon, man, here’s the deal. That’s just f*&king stupid. Do your homework before you come back with you next load of tripe.
Very deep!
The only silver lining to this abject humiliation of our Nation, by a balloon no less, is that if PDJT can ever retake the Presidency (a gigantic “if”, requiring an electoral miracle with five unchecked voting-corrupted swing states), he now has full justification to purge out the entire US Military command structure. They are total failures.
It has been entirely infested with compromised and intentionally incompetent actors ever since Obama purged and completely politicized it. We are now increasingly seeing the results of that institutional corruption.
And their failures of conduct, even in the face of hostile intrusions directly into our inland airspace, now amounts to de facto treason against the Homeland.
IMO the destruction of the military started with Clinton’s don’t ask, don’t tell … followed by him effectively rifting academy grads & quality officers by promoting females and minorities instead … the bushCARTEL and Obama slaughtered and maimed over 10,000 of our best … now this braindead Prop and his “General” with a chest full of participation ribbons – are recruiting illegals for automatic citizenship … while China openly spies on America.
Not taking out the balloon shows that —
The US can’t take it out.
The US is scared to take it out.
China told Biden to leave it alone.
Suppose Biden really did order it shot down and the junta generals disobeyed.
This is much more interesting as it exposes him as the propped up facade we knew him to be.
Not So Much Excitement Since “Balloon Boy”
Door #3, Monty!
It’s difficult to do signals (comm) intel from space especially sub microwave frequencies. It’s also difficult to broadcast from space. My guess is this balloon is not just watching and listening but is also broadcasting. Perhaps spoofing mil GPS signals, C&C comms, jamming, etc. Not unlike how they were interfering with Navy ship guidance systems that were causing the crashes a few years ago.
Also, believe it or not, things like balloons are a great way to infiltrate airspace where radar systems are tuned to look for very specific profiles that a giant balloon does not fit. It could have been an experiment in how well they can control it from afar and send it where they want it to go without detection.
There’s no reason they can’t force a controlled decent by putting a few rounds through the balloon. I’m sure they can even snag the gondola in the air using a helicopter once it’s partially descended.
To steal from the left, the issue is optics.
And the optics of this entire incident are terrible for the US Government, and its ‘vaunted’ woke military.
They look like complete weaklings, afraid to defend America’s own sovereign airspace.
This guided spy balloon should have been shot down days ago, as soon as it entered Alaska. And not allowed to wander across the Nation, and survey the Heartland from Nebraska to North Carolina.
It’s worse optics than Sputnik.
Remember when JFK was President and so intimidated when Krushchev pounded his shoe on the table … that he did nothing while the Soviets slaughtered the Cuban Freedom Fighters, seized Cuba, put their puppet Fidel in as “president” and brought in nuclear missiles pointed at the USA … did nothing as the Soviets walled off East Berlin and occupied Eastern Europe … did nothing while the Soviet Union swept through South East Asia as Allies for the VietCong and North Vietnam … all in just 3 years … while marching Hollywood Starlets and a Mafia Mistress up the back stairs of the White House … then somebody assassinated him … yeah … Biden is worse than JFK.
Wile E. just upped his game – and provided Acme Balloon Inc. with invaluable advertising.
🙂
I think this might be that long lost balloon with young Kurt Russell on it from Gilligan’s Island…..
Does it have a higher or lower carbon footprint than an airplane?
So this is a helium balloon. Now having played with helium balloons for well over 55 years, you don’t have to blow them up to bring them down. A nice big string attached to the structure below them with just the right amount of weight drops them down nice and slow without doing any damage. Now I’m sure that since these balloons have been used for surveillance for close to 100 years our military has come up with ways to capture these and bring them down intact. So this media blitz smokescreen about blowing it out of the air is pure B.S.
Next, these relatively low tech Balloons can carry pretty large payloads. In WW2 the Japanese used them to drop bombs on the enemy.
A small Nuke detonated at 100K ft elevation would take out the grid – an EMP attack.
I have no idea why we don’t consider this to be a dry run for the possibility of an EMP attack in the future.
In any case, take the damned balloon down safely and see what it’s carrying – gather the intelligence.
What ‘intelligence’ ( obfuscation )
would be trusted to gather… ?
For example:
What’s Durham looking into…and for how long…?
Is someone investigating durham…?
hmmm…
At one time some nasal astronauts radioed their home base:
‘ Houston, we have a problem.’
[ at that time, problems were solved, with devoted, good intentioned, teamwork ].
Some problems today, still are solved. Good.
Other problems, many…are obfu$cated…
p.s.
someone’s
‘Investigated’ the sabotage of nordstream gas Pipeline ( in Baltic sea ).
( underwater gas distribution line from Russia to Germany)
And the results of investigation are… ____.
Crickets chirping for months
…
Which is quite telling.
Yet, people know.
Wow. Those Chinese people are really bad.
I guess I should start developing an inflexible hatred of them and support transforming Taiwan into the next Ukraine, a place which I suppose I am now expected to forget about entirely since Ukraine has achieved total victory over
Xitler, I mean that poutine guy.Have I correctly expressed what the US government wishes me to take away from this discovery of sinister Sino espionage, or do I need to further correct my thinking?
The Regime could just let the thing go by, publicly saying “we’re just going to watch the little ChiCom toy float by.”
Can we put up a SIGINT platform or a Rivet Joint or something and blast it with some Cardi B, or better, a bunch of South Korean “K-Pop.” At high-gain. Then splash it.
Looking at the reverse-engineered path, this thing almost immediately crossed into Japan’s ADIZ so we had to have known about it well before the Aleutians or Canada. With apologies to Jimmy Breslin, this is the gang that couldn’t shoot straight.
I’m old enough to remember when the Soviets shot down U2s, and the USAF scrambled fighters at the first whiff of a domestic airspace intrusion.
This ‘thing’ from China should have been shot down the moment it entered Alaskan airspace, with no less urgency than if it were a jet bomber or ICBM.
The essential purpose of national defense is to defend the Nation.
The issue is not what it is, or what has happened. But that our Government and its military allowed it, and are allowing it, to happen.
This is a 21st Century Sputnik moment. With all the negative optics implied.
I’ll say it again: It makes the US Government and its military into global laughingstocks.
I remember when both the US and Soviets shot down civilian airliners.
But I digress.
You really believe that we had no visibility into a large object traveling through a Polar route?
Your post caused me to revisit the old DEW Line films. Interesting stuff.
I note that if there’s anything government running right now in the area around Montana, including large portions of Idaho, Wyoming and the Dakotas, it’s running dark.
Seems to me send up a U2, I see them over CA pretty regularly, and check it out. Probably already did and just aren’t talking about it.
Indeed, Oldersoul – the entire chain of command all the way up to Milly and Austin are derelict in their duty, either thru incompetence or malfeasance. Leavenworth, if the former, and firing squad, if the latter. Right now, no lawyers, no delay, no hearings.
By the map, it also appears to have flown right over Kodiak Isl., where we have coast guard.
I don’t understand why this ever made it inside our air space.
I guess our “leaders” are reaching across the aisle…😡
Wonder if General Milley got a “heads up” call from the Chinese re the arrival of the balloon? Remember he is the General who informed the Chinese that he would alert them if President Trump launched an attack on China. Amazing that he is still a general.
These guys make Jimmy Carter look like an international bully.
The only thing they are proficient at is killing American citizens.
Would this not be the time for some savvy governor to get on the stick and order their state’s ANG to do the work the feds refuse to do? I’m thinking that’s the age we’re living in.
So nice having domestic enemies for “military leaders”. Thanks, Commie Ø’Barry.
Not a big concern , not worth a shoot down BLAH BLAH BLAH BULL SHIT !
Let some hobbyists fly a model drone over a nuclear missile silo and see what happens 😱
This is a coverup for God only knows what ?
Ukraine failures of the Biden administration and Victoria Nulands CIA screwups , Joes ChiCom Cash Hunters laptop or the energy , food and economic crisis that is the reality for average Americans during the strongest economic fantasy in American history! Joe thinks everything is great 🤪
99 Red Balloons!
99 Luft Ballons…lol
In any case, FJB all day long and the horse he rode in on. The country has never been so at risk.
As if there wasn’t enough fear and doom going on…
But, I digress. Back to mucking out the barns where I expend all that righteous indigation that keeps piling up.
Crazy as it may seem…..perhaps not the case.
I have a fading memory of many more numerous reports of foreign nation ballistic missile subs performing routine operational patrols off each coast during the Obama administration.
If the US Military can’t tell with extreme level of certainty that the balloon does not have an EMP Capability – allowing it to cross our border + reach the middle of the nation makes no sense to me.
If 90% of the lives of the nation are at stake, you MUST be certain it cannot do an EMP…!!!
Entire US MIL chain of command is derelict or treasonous in this. In my day, they would have been shot within 24 hours. Oh, wait, I’m still here, what happened?
I started saying in 2020 after Covid was released – when someone would say an EMP would never happen because of Mutually Assured Destruction – That assumes our Military still capable would be ordered to retaliate in the chaos that ensued…
Maybe some of them think it is at least possible now those orders won’t come…
“Every nation has the government she deserves.” – Joseph d’Maistre
We are in bad shape as a nation. It’s surreal how almost nobody cares about America as a sovereign nation in Washington.
Open boarders wide open south snd north, education, Chinese fentanyl, Covid, and culture full of perversion and dementedness, transgender mania,
our food sources being trashed and controlled by foreign enemies, Chinese buying our farmlands and nobody cares.
That’s what you get with a completely polarized culture/polity.
Lets just hope & pray that balloon doesn’t have a nuclear bomb on it and gets lit up at that altitude once it reaches the heartland of this country and cause an EMP
Test run for an emp, biological or chemical attack
Nope; it’s either an overhead delivery of Fentanyl or a reminder of how they can distribute Covid- 23 faster.
Big bad Biden regime is all big bad-ass on campus when it comes to backing Ukraine to fuel a war funneling billions of dollars and war equipment over there while simultaneously raiding and arresting US Citizens for protesting against his cabal but when China meanders all over the USA on their own terms flipping the bird at us all the Spy in Chief himself runs and hides afaf.
Just hope he doesn’t trip over his dress scrambling to take cover in his basement
Was old Joe the real Manchurian Candidate?
Hey, but at least we don’t have any more mean tweets from Orange Man Bad (total sarcasm, of course)
probably trying to pick up joes garage door code
I’m going to go out on a limb and say we shouldn’t have a Chinese spy balloon floating over the United States of America.
Communist China has done the following things to the United States
-Steals our intellectual property
-Hurts American manufacturing
-Supplies our enemies
-Distracts Americans on Tik Tok
-Kills our citizens with Fentanyl
-Bought Joe and Hunter Biden for treason
-Flies a spy balloon over our country
And what’s Joe Biden doing about it? Nothing.
Maybe if the Biden Administration wasn’t so worried about banning your gas stoves, they would have seen this Chinese spy balloon coming. This is not some hot air balloon, it has a large payload of sensors roughly the size of two city buses & the ability to maneuver independently. It was a mistake to not shoot down that Chinese spy balloon when it was over a sparsely populated area
What sensors were on the balloon? Asking for a friend.
Where is Luke Skywalker and C3PO when we need them?
Poke a few holes in it and it will deflate and drift to the ground.
Fixed it.
If this balloon had an EMP would the Pentagon say so or say it is just a surveillance balloon?
In lieu of shooting it down, why not some small punctures in the balloon. A chance to bring it down almost intact would allow inspection and determine threat against the US.
This balloon is just a ploy.
A TROJAN HORSE.
China will send many more balloons like this to get us USED to them.
China wants us to consider the balloons as being HARMLESS.
The last balloon China sends will be carrying a NUCLEAR WEAPON that will cause a massive EMP – electro-magnetic-pulse that will take down our defences just prior to China’s attack on the USA.
Biden is a fool.
Bingo! From 2015: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/washington-secrets/balloons-called-top-delivery-platform-for-nuclear-emp-attack
I think you forget how “everything “ that has and is happening since the steal is all theater ..imho🤣👍
🇺🇸💪😀👍
I do not really disagree, but you must understand that some people in the military or national security apparatus are probably also part of the audience rather than players on the stage. There is still utility in putting out a semi-believable story.
The lack of a response to destroy this intruder demonstrates the chinless, spineless, chestless wonder that is the Dhimmierats Party.
No. you need to read Wiki’s NEMP page. you don’t get good coverage until you’re 200-250 miles aaltitude,outside of the atmosphere. a balloon delivered EMP would only be a local-area coverage. get too low in the atmosphere,and EMP extends about the same radius as the blast and thermal effects,due to the Compton Effect.
also,the delivery method is too risky and inaccurate,much too much time for discovery or loss of the device.
But if three balloons were sent and not detected, as this one almost was not, then what followed the initial EMP attack, or nuclear attack, could be held off until the three infiltrating devices were successful even if that took several attempts.
Supposedly, the Mongols one time got past the Great Wall of China by using an almost identical technique. Every day they sent out amounted Force to come not very close to the walls. As the Chinese within the walls did not venture out, the Mongols day by day came closer, but the size of the force they sent tended to diminish, seeming to indicate dampening enthusiasm. Then one day the Mongols rode out and instead of stopping a few yards closer to the wall than the previous day just started Galloping at full speed toward a gate that had been left open.
I don’t know if the story is true, but I know it came from a Chinese source, and so it probably represents part of the background mythology that helps them decide on tactics.
Mapping the ground for destructive path of the weather they will generate, weather warfare, question is, is it possible yes China is playing for keeps, like the Russian they are at war and know it. America needs to get chip off the shoulder when the truth hits it will be too big to swallow.
Exactly right that is a radar mapping array below it.
Satellites are way mo’betta for sensor mapping. Aside from monitoring and evaluating our C2 response-thrash, the only valuable takeaway from a balloon’s recce mission would be air sampling and weather-related…IMHO.
Recall also that the WWII Japanese balloon program was a science project to evaluate potential distribution of bio-warfare agents against people, crops, etc. Sure glad nobody does that anymore/s.
And ground penetrating radar would show missile silos or some hidden National command bunker that most of the country is completely unaware of.