I am bumping this post to the top of the page and updating because, well, I’ll explain.
First, thank you. Sincere and genuine thankfulness for your fellowship. Visitors to this site continue to prove that our nation is created by, and an assembly of, the most decent, honest, generous and kind-hearted people in the world. The responses to the question of ‘why didn’t you take the covid-19 shot?’ are nothing short of remarkable.
In the bigger picture if you want to fill up your faith cup and recognize the scale of commonsense assembly in our nation, take the time to read through the 2,000+ responses.
The feedback you are providing is exceptional and trust me when I say that far more people are reading these responses than you could fathom. Additionally, the responses have reasserted my belief in the scale of our national assembly. There are far more of us, ordinary, hardworking, commonsense, pragmatic and smart people, than the self-described intellectual elites would ever admit.
In addition to the responses below, there have been hundreds of emails answering the question, which suddenly made me realize that no one has really ever asked this question before in a format that provides ordinary people with the ability to respond.
There is also a yearning to talk about this issue, publicly and with deliberation; massively so. And I am hopeful (insert grin here) this small corner of the internet is about to push this conversation into a much larger national forum. Our nation needs a big conversation about this.
If I had to pick a single phrase to encapsulate the myriad of phenomenal responses to the question I would use the phrase, “intellectual discernment”; which again provides buckets of faith that a large number of people are wide awake, albeit part of what I call a potato revolution growing safely underground.
Also, unbeknownst to front page readers I am stunned at the people in/around operation warp-speed, these are people in government directly attached to the issue, who have contacted CTH on the backside, stepped forward and said they also didn’t take the shot because, well, despite their belief in the purpose and principle at the time, things were just not adding up and ultimately seemed sketchy. They couldn’t talk (so they felt), couldn’t even hint at their concern; but when it came to making the personal decision, they waited.
I also owe it to you to answer the question of my own status, which is a big heck no – I did not take the jab.
Why? Because in the preceding years of all my research into the rapidly exposed corruption of our government, there was just no way in hell I was going to trust that same system. A system that literally was working outside the constitution and legal framework of our nation to destroy a sitting U.S. President is going to suddenly care about my health. Nope, it did not align. I also looked at the datapoint of the U.S.S. Comfort delivered to New York City under the grandest of media proclamations about impending medical doom, only to see the ship sit empty and completely unused despite the scale of the narrative that surround its purpose.
Lastly, and more obliquely, the datapoint of one of my heroes Franklin Graham assembling a NY field hospital to serve over 20,000 patients; another massive endeavor that sat empty and without use. However, prior to the hindsight, it was the in-real-time fight from officials in/around the area who tried to block Samaritans Purse from setting up the facility. If the SARS-CoV-2 issue was as great a threat as declared, then why would anyone fight to keep out a field hospital that could provide such relief. It just didn’t make sense.
Those issues, and others, formed the baseline of my inability to reconcile the key issue of ‘trust’ needed to believe in the vaccine. Additionally, I am healthy and not within any of the risk factors. However, I also feel strongly that each health decision is unique to the individual person, and everyone was making the best decisions for them based on the available information at the time; so, I carry no judgement for those who made a different choice.
As noted, I am bumping this to the top of the site so that our conversation can continue. Normally I would start a new thread, but this one is different. I don’t want to break the continuity and I want to provide everyone the ability to see they are not alone.
Love to all,
Sundance
Reader feedback request.
I was quite shocked to review a poll I took on the Twitter last month showing that 85% of the people who follow the CTH Twitter account [TLR2] did not take the COVID-19 jab.
Without any judgement implied or inferred I am genuinely curious, why not?
With the situation clearly in hindsight, and/or given all the pressure that may have been applied to each individual situation, I am genuinely curious what was it that made you choose not to take the COVID-19 vaccination.
If you are comfortable, and please understand that no pressure is intended in any way whatsoever, could you share why you didn’t take the vaccine and how do you feel about that decision in hindsight?
If you did take the vaccination, there is also no judgement in this question. As I said back in 2021 each individual is unique, each situation is unique, and each person has to make the best decision about what is in their individual best interests. So please, don’t let this issue divide our conversation.
I am genuinely curious as to the reason so many people would withstand the public and perhaps peer pressure to follow the ‘vaccination’ advice. Also, how has that decision impacted your life? Did you lose friends and family over your personal health decision? Did those relationships heal over time? Or anything else you might find pertinent to the general question.
Initially didn’t get it because the numbers for my age group implied that it wasn’t necessary.
As time progressed it became clear to me that the corrupt actors in government were trying way too hard to get us to take a jab for a virus that wasn’t a significant threat to a very large portion of the population(basically anyone from a toddler to roughly 55, the risk of death from covid is flu-like).
Then they started threatening my ability to earn a living and do social things. Also living in a heavily blue area at the time, roughly 45% of my neighbors thought the unjabbed should be forced into house arrest. At that point I decided I wouldn’t ever get their jab on principle.
Nothing I’ve seen to this point has made me even slightly reconsider the situation. If anything the more I learn about it the more disgusted I am with anyone who pushed that poison claiming it helped people. It’s clear that some of the people involved knew what they were doing and literally tried violate the human rights of millions of Americans to force this garbage upon and divide the country further. Fauci and his allies deserve to rot in prison for the rest of their miserable lives. Though that is probably too good for these evil pissants.
#WeNeedMoreRope
did you ever see film depicting how penguins decide whether they will take to the water ?
I’ve always had a rule of thumb – find the stupidest person in the group and do the opposite of whatever they think is a “good decision”. My “point of reference” is a CNN addicted liberal who was mesmerized by the fear porn. So no “vaccine” for me and OTC respiratory hygiene has been my friend (thanks FLCCC!). I haven’t had a fever of any degree since before 2020.
I am blessed by God with the gift of discernment.
I also don’t watch MSM, not a sheep, and I am a critical thinker.
I also think I’m pretty good at recognizing the patterns of bolsheviks and marxists, or generally anyone who wants me dead.
No. My wife, son and ex-wife did not take it either.
Reasons why:
Emergency use authorization. Worlds largest human trial of an untested “vaccine”.
No informed use. Nothing on the foldout that warned of possible side effects.
Immediate quashing of information from renowned doctors and scientists against the shot.
The mandating of 6-foot distance and masks was a huge “tell”. They both were completely ineffective.
The huge push against the use of all therapeutics and nutraceuticals. Why would that be done except to maintain the EUA for the shots.
The hospital protocols were murderous. Using remdesivir and ventilation was a death sentence for many.
The contraindicative information was out there. One had only to search the CDC’s own site with papers on the subjects: the failure of remdesivir, the inefficacy of wearing masks, etc.
The final straw for me was when Pfizer tried to legally hide all information about their test results and drug development for 75 years. What the ever living Eff was that other than an attempt to obfuscate their horrendous results.
Quit talking about the vaccine with family friends that took it. I have gently provided information to them regarding Dr. Zelenko and Dr. Pierre Kory’s work to combat the spike protein development within your body.
And here’s the creepiest part of it all: reading about Event 201 in January of 2020 and seeing the sponsors of said event. CDC, NIH, Gates Foundation, China’s CDC and Johns Hopkins. Then having to watch Bill Gates come on every day for months and multiple TV channels and push a vaccine. I felt like I was witnessing mass murder in slow motion.
Lastly….Bill Gates calling for a World Health Governance.
As a follow-up. I drove to Texas and back thirty times during 2020-2021. never wore a mask. Paid no attention to mask requirements. Was not a bully about it. Just did my business which is mostly on ranches where no one cared a whit about shots or masks or Bill Gates or Anthony Fauci. A few folks said they stayed home for a week (quarantining because they had a cold and/or tested positive). But no one said is was even as bad as the flu.
Finally, when Kary Mullis explained the PCR testing and basically called Tony Fauci a fraud….I was way past done.
This clip is so important. Mullis died months (Aug 2019, age 74) before the shtf in 2020.
Because the govt lies about everything, so does the media.
Amen. If the government and media all push for something. I know something stinks. The tough part was taking flak from family and doctors that all wanted me to. And my primary doctor is a lifelong friend.
My first response was “fake info.” As a registered nurse, the info about masks was a red flag. I have always refused flu and pneumonia shots. I know that live viruses can be shed (infant getting mmr can share with granma resulting in shingles). As a former school nurse I had been through the chaos of H1N1; the pressure for kids to get flu shots IN the school; the pressure from doctors on parents to get immunizations that were not Required by schools. I was suspicious from the first time I heard fauxi speak. I actually commented here early on that I was already on Hcq, D3, Vit C, and B12 due to current health conditions, so the only change I implement was adding zinc. My entire family opposed me and followed the crowd, getting shots and more shots; they said they “did not want to hear anything I had to say,” and some refused to be around me without a mask. I did wore a mask in the presence of a son and dil, both of whom were in active cancer treatments. I have had a 24-hour episode of bronchitis but no other colds, sniffles or illness since March 2019. I do keep a supply of Ivermectin to take as a precaution when I fly or attend a graduation or concert, or go on a cruise/ senior tour. I am thankful that God has provided all I have needed and kept me safe and well.
The whole thing seemed fishy from the get go. We just decided to sit it out and watch how things unfolded. We learned how everyone in the chain was protected from liability. And I learned that the mRNA versions were the first large scale use of that drug technology for humans, and that the whole 10-11 month trial and approval process were sped way up so there couldn’t be any long term data. It’s simple, common sense. It was clear that it’s just one big, unethical, in-vivo experiment. My spouse and I decided to remain in the control group. Since then, we’ve watched as the shots were failing and the breakthrough numbers climbed and climbed.
It’s truly heartbreaking. We tried convincing our children. Got attacked and accused of spreading “misinformation” or falling for conspiracy theories. We consider ourselves casualties. Our lives ever since have been a living hell knowing that any day we could lose a loved one. One sibling of mine suffered a debilitating stroke and after a year has pretty well recovered, thank God, but continued to get boosted. We can’t prove it’s the jabs but we know they played a part. We’re going to fire our doctor who was all in on pushing this crap on people. It’s experimental and everyone knows it. Full stop.
Now, the dam is breaking on this horror, and we’re bracing for the backlash as loved ones begin to realize what they might have done to themselves and their children.
At least we tried. And tried…
due diligence
informed consent
spoke openly and often about what was/will happen
soon learnt who the zombies are
always known people were happily dumb – was shocked at how deeply entrenched this is
very difficult, isolating, became calmly self-aware – now peacefully enjoying the show
almost voyeuristically
broken bonds have proven permanent
new bonds (very) slowly forming
chose to retire and drop out
One interesting thing I have noticed in reading these comments is how many of the non-“vaccinated” simply retired. I wonder how much this has influenced the “worker shortage” we are apparently experiencing in the U.S.
Probably quite a bit. Never fear, though, the USA has a recent habit of flooding in Indians (etc) to take jobs. I think that was part of the plan.
My entire family did not take it ,( except current military), because the federal government can not be trusted with our lives. They have proven that over my 70+ years.
My personal DNA says fight those who seek to control me. I’ll gladly accept all of the flaws and mistakes that I make before I bow down to the ones you force on me.
God works with me, directly, and those that claim God desires me to “follow the citizenship rules” my answer is that I follow a higher citizenship.
I’ve never gotten a flu shot and quite simply my initial reaction was to wait and see. The more I saw the less I was inclined until I was convinced there was an issue with it. The suppressing of early treatment pissed me off and the whole political theater was ridiculous. Confining healthy people made no sense and the medical community seemed to have lost their minds and ethics.
I followed Dr Zelencky’s protocol and started on quercitin which has been one of the best supplements I’ve ever taken. My usual 2/year colds disappeared and my allergies were significantly abated. I haven’t been sick a day since 2019. I changed little of my usual life, worked every day and the only thing that changed was my work out routines. My gym closed and I never went back although I still have my trainer once a week.
This has been biggest fraud and crime on humanity in my life time at least. I am sorry for the people who followed the sheep and suffered because of it. I’m not sorry for the branch covidians who have lost their minds. I have lost any faith I had in the medical community and immensely respect those in the medical community who bucked the masters at threat of their livelyhood. But on a percentage they are few and far.
I have learned that the China Virus with the MRNA shots brought desparit groups together. Someone who I thought I’d never listen to was Naomi Wolf. See, I remembered her from the Al Bore campaign in 2000. She was the PR behind the boor or for that matter Robert Kennedy Jr.
I also never in this world thought I would listen to Naomi Wolf, much less develop a healthy respect for her – she’s a warrior ad a patriot. Someone else I previously shut out was RFK Jr. The man deserves a medal for his book on Fauci, lawsuits he’s bringing, etc. Do I totally agree with Naomi or RFK Jr on everything? No … but they have proven to me they love this country, are concerned for their fellow human beings, and are fighting the evil/tyranny that is afoot. The Age of COVID has made for some strange bedfellows, that’s for sure …. frankly, I’ve shed many I formerly thought as friends who said ugly things, were intolerant, and proved to be ‘fair weather’ & ‘only if you agree with me’ types. Now I have new ‘friends’ of a similar mindset and goals.
Why RFK? He’s been fighting big corporations for quite a while.
Facism is to be fought not embraced.
By Feb 2020 I knew all of Covid was built on a lie. A lie that could only take hold of the world through intentional deception, coordinated by government, media and doctors.
Knowing the corporate players in such fascism were medical and big pharma, I knew taking their injections would lead to a fate far worse than catching a virus.
When we all saw the massive govt, media, education and pharma organizations acting AND reacting in concert it was clear we were being hosed by all.
It took an event like this to reveal the evil infrastructure going on. Why everyone couldn’t see it was the truly scary part.
Did the NSDAP mandate vaccinations like this one? Experimental drugs? They pushed healthy lifestyles so I’d be surprised, but I haven’t looked it up.
Bayer’s funding of the Nazi party and support of Mengele never seemed to come up at the “world court”. No surprises.
The roles of the “industrialists” including Bayer are discussed even by today’s fascists but not pursued.
https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/how-big-business-bailed-out-nazis
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/bayer-accused-of-involvement-in-nazi-medical-experiments-on-jews-1.154523
I am a retired RN and have a healthy distrust for all rushed medications and vaccines, we took a wait and see attitude and the outcome bore out as I thought.
Our family for the most part took our decisions in stride, friends either remained or decided we were wrong and decided they couldn’t continue having a relationship with us.
Indeed, who would put an experimental drug into their body knowing little of the short-term and nothing of the long-term side effects? Stories about otherwise healthy people and young people in particular dropping dead on a daily basis are not normal.
I’ve been wary of the medical ‘industry’ for some time. Appendicitis? Yes, surgery. Back ache? Not necessarily. The new mRNA items were not tested. I researched and found Drs. Malone and McCullough.
I had already walked away from my job due to PC/woke ideology being pushed. So, no pressure.
I refused the vaccine. All it took was 10 minutes of research to conclude that the vaccine was dangerous. And yes, I took grief from my wife, and close friends for NOT taking the VAX. I missed a cruise with my wife, amidst a mountain of BS from friends to “just get the vax, it will better for everyone.” Not happening. I’m retired, and there is no compelling reason to get the kill shot. I don’t necessarily feel vindicated, but I do think that not getting the shot was the right decision. Friends that got the shot are in a continuous cycle of getting covid, over and over again. Their immune systems are shot. And five years from now? Who knows… I have little trust in doctors, and my doctor at Dartmouth/Hitchcock does not even ask about the vax anymore. I told her no, period. Good luck.
I looked up Pfizer offices in my area…ALL of them were closed. Then the federal employees that were exempt from the shot. Finally NO illegals streaming across our border was required to get a jab.
Bottom line federal and state governments are murdering citizens and back filling with illegals.
I reluctantly took the first two pfe shots. I am 81 now, and with the videos and stuff on news I watch, and many co-morbidities, I was scared. And I knew of FIVE Miami physicians who had already died from corona; all were younger than I.
It was my best judgment, therefore, to take the first two.
After the second pfe shot, I developed anemia and “lost” about 10 to 15% of my red blood cells. I did not find a “specific” cause but it was a month or so after the second shot.
I had good access to HCQ and ivermectin; I was pretty sure pfizer caused my RBCs to screw up; and I read your wonderful articles all the time. And I’ve not taken any boosters.
My usually reasonably intelligent family, some MDs, some friends, ridiculed me…and have not reconciled. F*ck them.
About 4 or 5 months ago, My Beautiful Wife tested + for covid. Right away I put her on ivermectin…and I started on it myself the same day albeit I wasn’t yet positive and had no symptoms. I did become + two days later; had the slightest cough; and 100.5 fever for a few hours; and that was it.
After this much time, and so many years studying your astounding abilities to discern and explain things, I have decided to NEVER take another gov-sponsored shot.
I actually believe they are trying to kill us.
Please keep up your amazing work, Sundance.
I’m convinced I had covid in Nov/Dec 2019. The shots were experimental. I figured I had natural immunity.
The coercion was suspicious and I’m very stubborn.
No major consequences befell me re relationships, job, etc. I was lucky.
I’m very happy I am unvaxxed and that my adult children, mom and one brother are also.
me too. I am fairly certain now I had covid winter of 2019 (likely Nov). However what happened was I had that feeling that something was coming, that is was potentially very bad. But, I never really got sick, never got past the impending feeling, as I immediately treated with anti-immune elderberry and vit c. probably drank a lot of bone broth. I worked through the whole lockdown, never got sick. Thankfully I am in FL and lots of places never closed.
Same story here. Less than 24 hours of symptoms in November of 2019. Never got it again.
Like you, Audrey, in Nov 2019, my wife and I became sick with an upper respiratory illness that lasted 8-10 days. We each stayed home and survived and chalked it up to “the flu”. When the pandemic was announced in Mar 2020, we were grateful to have gained the natural immunities that we knew came with the illness. It would have been exceedingly foolish to take an experimental vax. Our daughters and their families also experienced the same and remained unvaxed. Only one grandchild (out of five) was coerced to take the vax while she was a grad student in Kansas (no ill effects so far).
My wife and did not get the shot for various reasons. Starting with the Dimond Princess, based on the hysteria that cruise ship should have been adrift at sea with everyone dead. John Ionedis (?) produced a study early on siting absolute risk vs relative risk of dying from Covid. We saw early on that the clinical trials never looked at sterilizing and transmission prevention of the shot. I worked for a pharma company supporting drug development and understand the traditional steps involved in proving, stability, efficacy and safety , it can not be done in 4 months. My wife is a research behavior scientist who is well versed in informed consent and was appalled at what was accepted as “consent” ie you can get these fries with a shot. We had a good friend who died from a clinical trial, although it was 2 decades later, it affected his life greatly. In the end we were in a position where we could both loose are jobs and still be ok, so we refused on principle. After ww2, there were guidelines put in place so this would never happen again, how soon we forget.
Fauci made a claim that he had never heard of a vax side effect occurring more than 6 months after a shot.
I feel many here have a real distrust in Gov’t, but don’t leave out the push to shame you for not protecting others.
The fear porn was very real and deep from the start just adding to my suspicions.
Me and my spouse knew vaccines can’t be rushed through the process. One of us had a stroke after the shingles vaccine. Also, once we learned it was an experimental mRNA vaccine, we knew there would be no way in hell.
By the way, we need to get clear on the damage that the COVID engineered virus does to our bodies. Yes, the shots are tragic, but we need to better understand how the variants have damaged us as well. That’s on Fauci, too. I’ll tell you, when I got COVID, it was the strangest virus I’ve ever had – like an activist running around in my body doing damage (eyes infected, sensitive patch of skin, headache, post-nasal drip, stomach upset, back and leg pain for days, even restarted my period after 2 years post-menopause). Yes, I’m fine now – but that was a very weird, all over the place set of symptoms – like it just woudn’t friggin’ leave me alone, would just hop on to some other part of my body. So what the heck is going on with COVID itself?
My dad, 91 years old, had the 1st jab 1-31-2021 due to all the hype and COPD. 6 days later had a stroke. 2 weeks in hospital and 4 weeks acute stroke care. Came out very well except for aphasia. Returned home and continued therapy. Had second dose about 3-15. Ten days later sent back to hospital for low blood pressure and afibrilation. 3 more weeks in hospital trying to control his heartbeat and BP, and 5 weeks in rehab. New diagnosis of congenital heart failure. Never had a heart issue in his life. Before this his doctors all said he was the youngest 90 year old they had ever seen. Given 2 years max to live. Luckily he is still with us and going strong.
I think this is one part of motivation to do this. Think of all the money saved in social security. The jabs are killing even healthy seniors who might have lived 10 or 20 more years. The fear porn really targeted them. They also are on Medicare which generally gives you no choices of doctors. The Medicare docs are towing the govt line on health.
The only R i know who got one is my SIL and my Son and Family who used to be R we dont talk about that but i think he/they are L now and my Grandson who is SIL Son. But every Dem i am aware of or see around took them. Far as i know, in Colorado there haven’t been any of the Heart/Clot or issues that i have heard of and im on Web 24-7. But the Batches differ i read. I pray and cry inside my Family shamed me early on for NOT doing it, i read to much info right off the bat, i will NOT be mandated to take one, to put something in my body i have no idea if it will kill me or not. I can kill my body already in other ways. I will never take one, nor do i trust Dr anymore, School Boards, Town Boards, Govt, nope . thank you for your Questionaire Sundance We also take all the Vitamins and i will say tho i dont leave the house anymore, Hubs groc shops or Hardware, we have no reason to go out. That helps keep us healthier i think
I didn’t because it is too close to the Mark. It is my hill to die on. I was ready to lose my marriage, my home and my job – fortunately, I lost none of them. My wife argued against me, but in the end didn’t get the jab either. Family ties are still wounded, but pure blood is thicker than water.
When one of the vaccine companies (Can’t remember if it was Pfizer, Moderna or J&J) when asked when they would release their formula, they responded with something like in 55 years. That’s when the Mrs. and I knew not to take the vaccines.
I have..
And always will have..
TRUST ISSUES. Alternate news sources saved my family.
I did not get a jab nor did my husband.. I have serious drug allergies in addition to hypertension, there was never any “science” that indicated the jab might be safe.. As for as my husband he said “I don’t believe the bullshyt you’re peddling, not gonna happen”. My daughter didn’t get it due to nursing a child. My SIL got it and ended up in the emergency room with Myocarditis..
My Son actually caught the chynaflu before they had a test for it. He and his work crew had to take an Uber to the emergency room while running fevers.. his was 104 when her got there, all 4 had been sick for days before they decided to get help.. He was part of a test group used to help develop an antibody strain to help those infected.. He was sick for 13 days, had he not been supper fit he might not have fully recovered.. He once stated “leave it up to the Chinese to develop a virus that wiped out the fat, and sickly yet leave the homeless alone”
I’m inherently skeptical. Watched Covid since before it left China on the Johns Hopkins tracker.
Major red flags appeared rather quickly. Populations I thought would get hit hard didnt (Favelas, African regions, dense Indian cities).
Then I quickly picked up on the lies and the “unquestionable” science.
Didn’t take long for me to think “Perhaps I should wait and see how this turns out”. The more I waited, the worse the propaganda machine went; from the 5 governors that killed nursing home patients to the departments of public health.
The big thing – I kept myself very informed from my usual internet sources.
Good points – and I remember thinking that COVID would wipe out the homeless populations in CA’s dirty cities.
Thought the same thing… and it never happened. Just another data point indicating it was nowhere near as serious as “they” were saying.
I didn’t take it, my husband didn’t take it, my 2 adult children did not take it (they have no children).
Actually it never crossed my mind since I have never taken any “shots” other than what was required as a youngster back in the 50’s-60’s going to school and college. I’ve worked in a hospital and was never required to have any “shots” of any kind for anything and I worked in government, same applies there.
My husband has had to have more shots because he travels around the globe (or did before he retired) and still teaches in the US, but his classes were diminished greatly during that period of time and he wasn’t required to take the jab in order to teach, in fact, they cancelled classes in all Blue states.
Our family physician did not push it, in fact he refused to take it. My son’s doctor didn’t push it and agreed with my son that it was not a good idea…but he doesn’t push flu shots, and all that jazz.
My neighbors took it, 2 against the advice of their doctor. Those who I know that took it had Covid and one was extremely ill and hospitalized. I have no idea about anyone taking boosters, because it appears everyone is now hushed up about it.
My sisters were divided, the 3 sisters that took it; 2 had strokes and the oldest died, yes…they killed her; they live in NY and PA. The 3rd sister that took it is still alive but I have no idea of her condition, she lives with her grandchildren.
2 of my other sisters refused to take it; they live in upstate NY, in the Amish Country (Buffalo area) and it did not affect them one way or the other because they are both in their late 70’s, live in a rural area and are rather self-sufficient.
I had a terrible case of shingles about 4 years ago and even then my doctor (OMD) would not recommend the shingles shot. In his words: “The CDC lies and they do a terrible job with vaccines. If anyone takes the Shingles shot, they become sicker and have serious side effects. This year, it seems they may have corrected some mistakes, so if you want to take the Shingles Shot, it’s up to you.”
I never took the Shingles shot. He’s the best doctor I’ve ever had and I hate doctors.
That’s just an example of how I view all of this.
I will admit a few of my friends did offer they got the shot, I did not comment. 1 or 2 of them I never heard from again, so I have no idea if they are well or not.
That’s what happens in retirement you move several states away from your circle of friends.
Our decision didn’t affect us that much; when my husband went to the doctor’s (depending on which one), there were different rules regarding the masking but nothing about mandatory shots.
We live in the woods on a lake in NE GA, are rather self-sufficient (our last vegetable garden was about 4 years ago), however, I know how to prepare for ‘winter’, so we are usually stocked up rather well and I cook from scratch (about 60 years experience raised on a family farm) and we make do with what we have.
“2 of my other sisters refused to take it; they live in upstate NY, in the Amish Country (Buffalo area)”
Not sure if it is close to our place, but we are rural up there and no one in the immediate area was rushing to get the shots. People are more self sufficient.
However, the daughter in law of our neighbor had one of the first lots. A year later, diagnosed with cancer. Not sure if it is related, but odd…. 45 years old.
I became skeptical of the “science” behind the shot, when we were told to get it, EVEN if we had already had a confirmed case of COVID, and had a natural immunity. I didn’t need a measles, or mumps, or even a chicken pox vaccine, because I’d already had a natural infection, therefore an immunity… So, why did I need this shot? Did the science regarding infection/natural immunity change? Seemed kinda sketchy, so I decided, that I’d go with what I knew about other vaccines …. And say no to getting the jab —- I’d already had natural immunity from a previous infection. Easy decision. No hesitation, no regrets.
I was breastfeeding our seven month old when the Air Force released its vax mandate guidance. I’d been talking to our Med Group commander about getting a medical waiver (he was on board), but then SecAF decided that breastfeeding moms had to get the vaxx. They wrote it into the friggin’ guidance.
I went into my commander’s office the next morning, after a long talk with my husband, and told him I was separating. The commander broke down; in a 48 hour period, 10% of our squadron decided to drop their papers rather than get it.
There was not, and is not now, one scintilla of evidence that this is safe for pregnant and breastfeeding mothers. Plus, I was donating to the milk bank at the time; even if my baby could handle it, what if it hurt some micro-preemie in a NICU somewhere? No thank you. The government might have had the authority to order me into a hazardous situation, but that authority does not extend to my children.
I should add, one of my in laws is a doctor and went in on this COVID fear mongering hard… it’s left wounds in the family that everyone else (all vaxxed) seem desperate to ignore. It’s damaged my relationship with sibling and in-laws, but at least I haven’t been fully cut off yet. I really have to watch what I say though.
That took some serious courage. God bless you for keeping your child safe. You wanted to serve your country, and I applaud you for that, too.
17 years in uniform, the labor of my adult life. It’s infuriating. Thank you, but I still feel guilty about it.
When the mandate came down, maybe 30-40% of the unit was vaccinated. Almost none of the pilots had gotten the jab. A majority of them ended up taking it simply because they knew they couldn’t be replaced, and the country couldn’t afford to lose them. These are guys who fought to keep their kids from getting it.
The reason compliance in the armed forces was so high was, in part, because we understood they were holding our national security posture hostage. And I thought I couldn’t hate the Democrats more after the Obama years…
Republicans did not stand up to stop any of this or even to ask any seriously hard questions, other than for raising funds. We have no representation in the govt.
Thank you to all of you for your sacrifice.
Thank you for protecting that baby. To me the idea of taking anything but vitamins, let alone a new technology vaccine, during pregnancy is just nuts. When the American Pediatric Society began advocating shots for all pregnant mothers I was just astounded. The APS decision to recommend this was a ~willful decision to not do a risk-based analysis. Based on the data a young mother had no risk of death from covid higher than ordinary flu. I am unaware of any guidance suggesting mothers take a bunch of vaccines to protect babies during pregnancy. But the risk to the baby from the vax was likelihood of Low x consequence of infinite = Moderate to High risk.
Nobody has held this disgusting professional society to account. The question has not even been asked and pressed. If there is a study looking at miscarriages subsequent to vaxing I have not seen it. But, if even one extra death due to vaccination occurred, it was entirely unnecessary, and it may directly be blamed on this group of “experts.”
Far from forgiving these professional scientists for panicking during a health emergency, they should be publicly held to account. There’s a price attached to being a professional when you are wrong.
Do we really want a world in which the most innocent are treated the equivalent to farm animals? I bet those smug leaders of APS dont view their own grandkids like that… or maybe they do.
When the homeless population wasn’t immediately wiped out, I knew it was all BS.
Exactly!
Not to mention the relative lack of deaths in Nigeria, India, etc. If this thing was truly awful, you’d see soaring death rates in the places that have the worst health care. But no…
when I saw the cartoon (meme) of the two rats in the cage, and the one rat says to the other “have you taken the vaccine yet?” and the other rat replies, “no, I am waiting for the human trials”. that helped me to decide, Not for me.
This is why the left hates humor…. too much truth leaks out.
The government has always lied to the American people and this situation was no exception. They lied out of the gate and knowing Big Pharma’s unethical tactics to deceive people, I would not go near that poison. I didn’t trust it, it wasn’t tested adequately and they way they obtained the EUA was questionable. Plus, I try not to even take any petroleum based drugs—so no way on this. Could you imagine the world we would have if they would have been honest and said “go outside, start exercising, move your body, eat well and get some sunshine.” But no because deception, greed and control has always been the playbook. Let’s see what happens now as people keep dying and suffering from adverse reactions. And what about the blood? Who is going to want contaminated jabbed blood? I certainly don’t.
I didn’t take the shots because I have followed the corruption and posion that is big pharma for decades. The pharmaceutical industry is not one that looks for cures, only bandaids at best. So many people are injured from synthetic poison and medical malpractice each year. One must treat the cause of the problem, not mask symtoms. Almost no doctors and companies are willing to do this. The medical industry is built upon the model of money. You are their source of power. They feed on you continually, rarely even helping, almost never curing. To cure you, damages them. Only lifelong drug subscriptions are preferred.
A pharmacological prison of poison is being built throughout America. Be careful what you take, what you eat, now more than ever.
I did get the shots (won’t call them a vaccine). I but tried hard not to, but my son’s fiance had breast cancer (and chemo) at the time and I was pressured into the shots. I refuse to get the boosters, though.
My wife got COVID early on, before the shots, got both shots, then got COVID again. I never got it.
Not vaxxed. My skepticism started young… I’m an AF brat. I was vaccinated until hell wouldn’t have it & I still got measles, chicken pox & mumps.
I got 1 flu shot 16 yrs ago followed by the 1st flu of my adult life. It knocked me on my caboose for 10 days.
I swore I’d never do it again & I’d keep my immune system healthy instead. I started researching this virus in Jan 2020. By May? I landed at the EVMS protocol put together by Dr Paul Marik, the Chief & Chair of Pulmonary and Critical Care. I never looked back. Finally caught the ChiCom flu in Dec 2021 & sailed through with IVM & minimal symptoms & discomfort.
No ramifications other than societal, most of my family was already gone & my kids aren’t crazy or followers. My employer stopped just short of mandating vaccination so I worked all the way through lockdowns & I’m still working. I consider myself blessed & I thank God for all of it.
I’m a chemist. I was working toward a PhD in biochemistry. I was going in for knee replacement surgery the same time a lot of folks were getting sick with the virus. I’m in the New Orleans area and we were one of the first hot spots for COVID. 14 days to slow the curve™ occurred while I was recovering.
Whispers of an mRNA vaccine in the works & time on my hands as the world shut down but my online access to science literature wasn’t allowed me to look into the nitty gritty of mRNA technology.
I saw mad scientists deluding themselves into thinking this was a technology they could control or predict accurately.
Then they had this whole vaccine rollout in record time but even the scientific community couldn’t get access to the literature behind it.
Another red flag.
On top of all that, when the “vaccine” rolled out, no one had isolated the intact virus. It was always assembled in fragments according to a genome that China supplied the world.
That put me in the “Not even if I have to live in the swamp & off the land”, “Just shoot me, it would be more humane” category for taking the jab.
Warned my kids, warned everyone I could not to take it. Kids listened, others were a hit or miss. Job mandating it was #1 reason folks I know took it.
I pray for them every day. One gal in her mid 30s had a stroke, thankfully a small one, no obvious damage to her motor functions. I knew she had gotten the jab, told her to take an aspirin a day to stop her blood from forming the dimers that lead to clots. She stopped taking the aspirin, but doc has her back on it now. I hate that this happened and continues to happen.
“no one had isolated the intact virus“
When the only “Approved” solution is the mandatory injection of an “Unproven” substance, I have a tendency to be cautious.
Call it a quirk.
Im 73 male and healthy. Had the first virus version b4 it was identified. Nasty but I recovered just fine. Jab was experimental so I declined. Had Omicron, not nice but less than first version. Jab sounded dangerously untested
After watching the VAXXED documentary a few years ago I lost all trust in Big Pharma and was also well aware of the many lawsuits Big Pharma had lost in court for their fraudulent practices. So, when hydroxychloroquine was mentioned and bandied about as a possible treatment in the early days of Covid I did research on that drug and went that route using it as a prophylaxis . Then later Ivermectin was being encouraged by online doctors that I came to trust so ordered that med and used that as a prophylaxis.
The fact that the govt., politicians, celebrities etc etc etc were all trying endlessly to push, coerce, bribe & mandate these “vaccines” on the public strengthened my resolve to never take one.
I’ve recently discovered through Sasha Lapytova who worked in the industry for 25 yrs that the jab is a bioweapon and it’s the DoD who is behind this circus. She has a substack which is quite enlightening.
Be careful with Sasha. Lot’s of very high quality disinfo out there floated out by our lovely intel community, likely intended to discredit those who consume and propagate it. I point you at self assembling graphene spiders, magnetic arms, and drop dead suddenly, among many others. They have been more often seen over on Gab, but are now infecting twitter also.
There’s a great new movie touching on this subject on Amazon. It’s called “Vengeance”. Watch out for the surprise ending. Will make you think…
I don’t do experimental drugs, especially those pushing them also tell me I can’t attend Church.
We did not take the jab because we are in general anti-vax. I was reading posts from Dr. Zev Zelenko and he gave me the truth. Also Dr. Pierre Kory and Greg Hunter are brilliant truth tellers. All glory to God. Praying for the vax injured and those who lost loved ones.
First of all, vaccines for flu don’t work. The only year my mother ever had flu – was the one year for some reason she had a flu jab. Flus mutate quickly – vaccines for flu don’t work. Secondly, it soon became evident that there were excellent alternatives, in particular ivermectin. Third, I then learned about the experimental nature of the jabs – when they started to make them mandatory, it became my business to research them – clearly they were not safe. Fourthly, while it cost me my job, I could manage without income. Over all of that, there is faith.
Probably 1 of the 1st here to take horse paste, not claiming to be the 1st but just posting about it from the beginning on TCH.
My trust in Gov. was discarded as a young Marine at 19 years old. The Gov. lies to us everyday.
That said, Sundance as an explaination to the picture atop this article of the 1 lone red figure with his/her hand raised and your question ” Without any judgment implied or inferred I am genuinely curious WHY NOT ” there is a wonderful and probably true, 2 minute clip of a very smart young woman on twitter who explains ” How I can wake up my friends and family “. Her post on Twitter is at 12:39 PM on Jan. 2 2023 and her name is Laura Matsue.
I am sorry, I still have not learned to link stuff LOL . A special hello to lolli in ” GOD Bless Texas “!!
I did get the first two. My parents were both in their 90’s and I had a brand new granddaughter. I didn’t want to risk passing it to them. I also work for a medical practice and there was a lot of pressure….Get the shots or get tested regularly. I’ve never tested positive. My parents and grandchild all had it. I had mild side effects after the shots. I will not get any more. I’ve told my employer I will leave if it’s required.
The nursing home that my Mom was in did not require visitors to get the shot but eventually required that I take a Covid test. I refused.
Daily, I checked my Mom out of the place and visited with her on the bench outside the facility. She in the wheelchair and me on the bench. They couldn’t legally prevent that kind of visit.
We are both almost deaf. (Especially me.) The mask always blocked communication for both of us.
A nurse saw us outside without masks and reported me to my family.
My family called the facility and signed papers to forbid me from checking Mom out, exceeding the legal Covid protocol.
I then could only visit Mom through the windows,
My children and I often sang hymns and even took our little dog for the forbidden window visits with Mom.
Finally, hospice was called in when Mom showed some signs of departing this life.
The facility said I could not visit without taking the test.
I prayed and my children joined me.
Finally, they facility relented.
We all visited Mom in her room and sang “Jesus Loves Me” to Mom.
6 of us in her room wearing gowns, singing. 3 generations.
What a day!!
Mom suddenly got better and hospice withdrew.
Then we were forbidden again from seeing her without taking the useless Covid test.
A couple of weeks later, the whole Covid thing blew over. No explanation given.
Just like nothing ever happened.
I saw her in her room just before and after she died there.
The whole thing was an experience and a miracle for me and Mom.
She was 101 years old during all of this “healthcare.”
God is good. We will never forget this trial and blessing.
This whole thing felt like Passover, somehow.
I am lifted by this holy story. thank you.
My God… what they did to us is not forgivable. I know the instruction to forgive, I even know it’s for me and not them. But the cruelty and stupidity of it all is just too much for me right now…
Experimental gene therapy did it for us. We participated in the control group. We all did contract c19-delta, with prayers,used Ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, vit D. We came through it and have not caught any of the variants to date.
I was worried about my husband getting COVID, so I did order HCQ from FLCCC doctors for him specifically.
I attended elementary school in large city. Once we took a field trip to the city’s Chinatown. We ate at a restaurant where the drinking water had a pronounced amber tint. I called attention to this novel coloration and was told, by everyone, that the water safe to drink.
I was the only person not to drink the water. I was also the only person, teacher and chaperones included, to not get sick afterwards.
This experience reinforced my natural tendencies towards skepticism and cynicism, particularly towards those in authority. These tendencies were further reinforced by the results of my last flu shot a few years later, which included a 103F temperature.
As I have mentioned in the past, one of my areas of interest is structural fires. One of the things I’ve learned is to move in a different direction than the crowd. The bigger the crowd, and the faster it is moving, the more important it becomes to head in another direction.
I do not think there has ever been, and hope there will never be, a larger crowd moving faster than the one which stampeded towards the amber glasses of water being set upon the world’s table in late 2020.
Instinct and experience screamed at me to head in the other direction, and I did.
There were those who felt it was the best decision for them. I do not look down on them for that, hope that they were correct, and wish them well.
Brilliant analogy … I’ll keep my water bottle with me, thankye. 👍