Just an ancillary side note to the U.S-Russia prisoner exchange.
According to an original article from NBC, the negotiations for the prisoner swap included an exchange for either LGBTQ+ hero Brittany Griner or U.S. former marine Paul Whelan.
The Russians would swap either U.S. citizen for the return of arms dealer Viktor Bout; however, the White House would have to decide which American they wanted in return. The White House decided there was greater benefit to getting LGBTQ+ hero Brittany Griner returned, and left Paul Whelan in a Russian prison.
[ NBC Report – Archived Version LINK ]
Obviously, this context of the NBC report makes the Biden administration look bad.
A political and ideological decision within the selection of the Biden administration preference. Realizing this, perhaps after contact from the White House, NBC stealth edited their story after publication in order to eliminate the political problem.
In the original version: “the Kremlin gave the White House the choice of either Griner or Whelan — or none.”
In the stealth revised version: “the Kremlin ultimately gave the White House the choice of either Griner or no one after different options were proposed.”
Even with the modified and carefully worded changes, it looks like Joe Biden chose the trans basketball player over the former U.S. marine, which, given the arc of history, does seem to make sense.
Among the MANY repugnant issues here in this story is this:
The never ending necessity to capture a media outlet story AS IT IS AT THE TIME, so as to be able to compare it to the inevitable political manipulation that occurs when they realize the truth they told is harmful to them……or their political allies.
FJB would be a horrible fantasy football manager.
I get that he is dealing with real peoples lives.
But he sux at trading
So, maybe half the country cares.
And half that agrees with this trade.
FJB should have gotten all 3 for an international arms dealer.
He has always been a terrible poker player. Now he is senile, he is even worse. So predictable
Biden is a terrible poker player and he can’t keep a secret. There is a Chinook full of Seal Team 6 members that were destroyed because of him.
He wasn’t trading. his peons knew all along they wanted vicktor free and grinder home.
“You think they will trade a useful contact in fighting asymmetric guerrilla wars in the third world for a mutant who can’t smuggle a four-inch rectangle,” Lavrov asked incredulously.
“Yes. I had this ‘poast’ from an American underwater basket weaving forum professionally translated. It’s worth a try.”
“… My God. This might work! Who else do we want back?”
I bet MbS is laughing too
I just now finished listening to the NBC report at 6:36 with David Whelan concerning his brother Paul’s non-release.
It was the edited version: no mention that the Russians gave The Manchurian Marionette the choice of his brother or a tattooed, idiotic, partially Afro-American lesbian.
I mentioned elsewhere earlier today: The Manchurian Marionette chose the likely member of the DEMographic.
Doesn’t the Afro-American “lesbian” have a penis and testicles?
The left idiots in the WH just wanted attention and they got it. Ignore them. They hate that.
wondering what took them so long to trade for this dope smoker
Would not happen till this happened:
NOTE: Saudi Arabia Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman (MbS) negotiated the deal. Yesterday, in federal court the U.S. dropped a lawsuit against MbS for the Khoshoggi killing. The case was dismissed. The timing is transparent.
I’m still a proud American, but I’m sure ashamed of what our government has become.
I agree one million percent.
Quid Pro Joe does it again!
BINGO.
The release of the Twitter files happened.
They needed someone more like Hunter Biden is.
Black transsexual basketball dude trumps old white marine everytime in today’s world.
ESPN and the Fake News will be covering this 24/7 for the next month. The Black tranny will be on every news show for the next month alongside his wife. Once again China Joe gives the American people the middle finger laughing his ass off. The people in the military should be seriously pissed off.
Too late for co-Man of the Year???
Seriously? Let’s pretend the Demented Fraud even knew anything at all about any exchange with Russia. There is not a single thing that the Frauds puppet masters have done that isn’t plain stupid and catering to evil
So are they gonna Out this reporter also?
I hope the mentally unstable ball chucker gets triple vaxxed
Biden chooses nothing. He followed instructions. Period.
From ODUMBO. ODUMBO likes those queer people. Big Mike is stroking her
fwiw
Whelan is a citizen of Canada, the United States, the United Kingdom, and Ireland.[44][45] His twin brother David ascribed Paul’s acquisition of the passports to “probably a genealogical interest as much as anything.”[4][f]
The Court Marshall involved larceny and financial fraud, more or less.
I had to dig deeper. Glad I did.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Whelan_(security_director)
You dug deep on Wikipedia. There’s a reliable source…not!
why are you digging in a septic tank?
Are there any sources that cannot be “overwritten?”
Whelan received a bad conduct discharge from the Marines. I have seen that in many sources other than Wikipedia. My recollection is that he used a computer to commit a number of the offenses he was convicted of at a court martial. So how did a guy who was dishonorably discharged from the Marines end up less than 10 years later as head of corporate security for a Fortune 500 corporation like BorgWarner? And have so much interest in Russia? It seems likely that Whelan actually was a spy. But even assuming that Whelan was a spy doesn’t excuse the Biden Administration’s decision. Instead of freeing the person who is imprisoned for actions taken on behalf of his country, they decided to free the person who was arrested for violating Russian drug laws (and I’m pretty sure possession of a cannabis vape is a violation of US drug laws). All because of her race and sexual orientation.
I think you’re right. They left one of ours on the field.
Him/her?
Seems to me, they just want that freak out of their country. And they got one of their assets back by letting the freak go!
Amin Amen.
Best joke seen on this so far today: “We traded a carpet muncher for a carpet bomber”.
No BATNA with these guys. If you’re not willing simply to walk away, you end up caving to an unreasonable demand. The opposite gives both strength and time to negotiate a truly mutually advantageous (and even more positive in our favor) deal. Let me guess WHO’D’VE done better–O yes, 45! Walk away and let the arms dealer rot. If the Russians wanted him bad enough, they’d have continued to talk. And what’s with the Saudi Prince’s imposing yet another condition (namely, dismissing the Coshogge (sp?) charges)? When that dismissal was announced several days ago, we knew something was up–and here it is! But even that could’ve been arranged and still gotten both the Marine and the transvestite out. It just wild have taken takes time than these clowns were prepared to spend. Sad!
Watched both NBC and Fox cover the same story about Griner getting traded. NBC focused on FJB and Gainer’s “wife”. Fox had the insufferable Marie Haarf yammering on about the decision she and Biden had to make.
NEITHER MENTIONED Saudi Crown Prince MJB or dropping the Khashoggi lawsuit. True to form, they won’t make a peep until about a week later when the idiots finally get into a rage over “the rest of the story”.
TV NEWS IS AN ABSOLUTE DISGRACE TO THE PEOPLE OF THE USA AND THEIR CONSTITUTION!
The Fake News media is NOT your friend, it is your . . . .
He has four governments, so four passports seems reasonable, says someone with just one.
‘In his first detailed interview since his arrest, Mr Whelan has described life locked up alongside murderers and thieves as a “very, very grim existence” and called on his four governments to do more to get him out. ‘
‘Elizabeth Whelan suggests the politicians will have to be more creative in this case, and preferably before Donald Trump leaves the White House on 20 January.’
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-55405134
still digging in a septic tank?
So now they can define “woman”? Are they all biologists?
Damn this fake-selected- not elected— administration to hell!🔥
You are playing right into their hands just like they planned. Ignore them, they hate being ignored.
So on balance:
Russia, OPEC and BRICS get:
Spy, arms dealer, US hater, what ever guy … there is more to this guy’s story which is why I say “spy”.
Billions in Oil sales for OPEC+ … sold to G7 nations.
No more negative publicity over removal of Spy, Arms Dealer, friend of Muslim Brotherhood and friend of JoeBama, Jamal Ahmad Khashoggi. [Note: The democrats and Bezos wanted President Trump impeached over this guys removal by the “new” Saudi power base at the time … go figure.]
The US gets:
Some pronoun thing that also hates America as well as days of media sound bites. (i.e. Nothing)
Oh and the “thing” gets millions in appearance fees. movie deal and book deals as well as continuation of basketball career or insurance payments for not being able to play.
He will likely get a lot of free weed handed his way too.
When officers of the US Miltary & local police (both are arms of the gubmint) insert themselves into a parents Facebook post on the inappropriate introduction to pan sexuality to her grade school child…
Nothing that this communist junta & its media allies does is a surprise.
No military deserving of any respect would have a fascist goon like Lt. Col. Schilling anywhere in its ranks.
US Military Tries to SILENCE Elementary School Mom Concerned About “Pansexual” Posters
https://choiceclips.whatfinger.com/2022/12/08/us-military-tries-to-silence-elementary-school-mom-concerned-about-pansexual-posters/
NJ Mother Targeted By Military Official And Local Police For Voicing Concern About Pansexuality Posters At School. The Police Chief called the admin of this Facebook group to say that the concerned mother’s post should come down.
Goons like this may have always been in the military, most wouldn’t have been stupid enough to out themselves on social media.
IDK what position this guy holds, but he’s completely overstepped his authority and broken regulations. I can’t see him professionally surviving this. Of course, this is Biden’s 🤡 world, so who knows.
Since the Lt. Col & the Police Chief we’re both acting in their capacity as agents of the communist junta, both gubmints (local & federal) can be sued for violating the constitutional & civil rights of a sovereign citizen.
Their illegal acts would become their worst nightmare.
That is, IF you can get a court to listen to the case.
The transgender athlete that refused to enter the court while the national anthem was played and refused to stand showing her hatred for The United States Of AMERICA is set free while a United States Marine Oath and honor bound is left behind to rot !
So much for no man left behind !
I wonder why none of our services are meeting their recruitment needs ?
Anyone go a good guess ?
If Trump wins in 2024 maybe he can trade Biden and Mr Whelan for Snowden.
snowden get russian citizenship week ago….
Slight correction: Griner is not a she. Do not buy into his mental delusion.
I wonder why we have any service people left at all. I’m not at all surprised at all than no more want to enlist in the bad corps.
There is a third American in prison. Marc Fogel. Similar circumstances to Griner (flew to Russia, had pot in their possession, sentenced to prison – 14 years for Fogel). Biden left TWO Americans, not one. The entire episode stinks. Should have been all three or none. And Bout should NOT have been the trade bait.
Who in the hell are these people running this country???
Stupidity and senility in action: a disgrace to our country and its values.
What country? We have none left, and certainly whatever it is called it has no value any more.
The core Americans whose progenitors created the greatest republic in history, are being culturally altered by subversive insurrectionists and purposefully displaced by the flotsam and jetsam of the world.
We the progeny of those brilliant statesmen, stand by in shocked denial that such a travesty could be perpetrated upon us, impotently discussing each cataclysmic event as it plays out before us.
Something has gone awry in the gene pool of the intellectual and ethical giants who made our heretofore superb lives possible. God forgive us for our utter failure to protect and preserve his glorious gift.
It does, and we do. Don’t conflate citizen views and values with those of the leftists in DC, please.
This has that dunce Anthony Blinken written all over it.
Not trans, just a lesbian.
Not lesbian, just trans
Let’s all play the game of the Left.
We disagree with the actions of Griner release? Boycott:
NBAWNBAAll sponsors of the NBA and WNBAAll advertisers on the alphabet networks who say this trade was positiveAdd more if you like. I’m starting with all of these.
Before Griner, Whelan was never mentioned by the WH. Now it’ll never be heard again.
Don’t advise your kids or grandkids to go into the military.
https://americanmind.org/salvo/become-undraftable/
Good article but 17,000 Americans did not die in May 1968 in Vietnam. That was the total for the year.
Griner was Guilty of her crime, Whelan is being held on fake espionage charges.
Griner hates America, and should be the one left behind. Let’s not kid anyone, Biden chose her because she’s black and Biden hates white Military men.
Biden did not do the choosing. He doesn’t know what is going on anymore. His left fools in the wh are in charge.
Meanwhile, J6 political prisoners are held without bail for over 2yrs on trespassing charges.
FJB
That’s the real disgraceful scandal.
Very difficult negotiation, a pot smoking basketball player for a significant arms dealer and terrorist. It took 9 months because Putin was laughing for 8 of them.
This entire administration is run by criminals, creeps and perverts (CCP). About the best you can say is you are glad an American citizen was freed. As to reasons, it is pretty obvious the choice is what it was.
Just a comment. There is NO trans anything. Just a mentally ill man pretending to be a woman. We need to stop using the language of the left when it comes to describing these sick people who deny their God given DNA.
I can only speculate how an insult like this move will play on the minds of our soldiers, to learn that this hack of a commander in chief set loose a person responsible for moving the arms of war that kill your fellow soldiers, in exchange for a man pretending to be a woman while simultaneously leaving a US soldier behind in that Russian jail.
Blood of future soldiers killed by this arms dealer just released will be on that transvestite’s hands along with this hack of a commander in chief.
FJB
I love that “Big Stupid Government” tag. For IT sure is. Why would they even ask for that person to be released when she doesn’t even like America…..I say let her stay in her ‘chosen’ country. Don’t bring her back here since she hates it. Let her stay somewhere else, not here……WE DON’T WANT HER ANY MORE THAN SHE WANTS US. Is it like so many other things I’ve noticed…..because of her color? As far back as life goes, there has always been a problem with one color or another; one race or another. We need to stop it now. Everyone was (used to be) created equal, but not any more……If you are white, your are bad, if you are not white, you are good….don’t care what color you might be…..that is what the U.S. has come down to anymore. All I can say is- again……I’m glad I’m old and hope I’m gone from this world before these idiots take over the whole thing – like they plan to. I used to think that was a long time coming, but not any more…..short time is now in the headlight.
Trump would have gotten both of them without giving up Bout.
Biden and crew think they “won”.
Leaving a Marine behind and instead getting an America hating dopey lesbian makes sense to some but not to most.
The world once again laughs at the fool on the hill.
This doesn’t surprise me at all. They had two choices, a man who served his country or a lesbian who hates her country. They were always going to pick the hater,because their ideologies are the same.
Give us Barabbas.
A distraction. Meanwhile, George Soros dumps another $50 million into his democRAT supporting PAC.
The Big Guy’s 10% cut of the book deal and movie rights will net him much bigger bucks with Griner than with Whelan, Follow the money…
Wow.
OFF TOPIC: Sundance is on Twitter currently trashing the fake MAGA influencers aka John Cardillo, Karol Markowitz, David Reboi etc. Just gotta say I’m loving every minute of it. I’ve watched these guys sneakily nudging followers away from Trump for over a year now. Thank God for Sundance. I just wish Jesse Kelly and Johnny Joey Jones were in the group pic so they could get trashed too. Thank you Sundance….by their temper tantrums I would say you’re right over the target.
Piece of garbage
I think this is another reason why Brandon chose Griner over Whelan. Per wikipedia:
Whelan supported US President Donald Trump and, after Trump’s 2016 election victory, Whelan posted in Russian Президент Трyмп Вперед!! (President Trump Onward!!).
Yes Serena. Tucker Carlson just informed the rest of us in the dark people! Who knew? Funny now why would Joe Pick him?
Is this ‘trans’ person an intact male? In other words, a man playing on a women’s basketball team?
According to Tucker Carlson, Paul Whelan is a Confessed ‘TRUMP SUPPORTER’. Let that sink in.
And sadly … The NYT writers were On Strike today … and couldn’t plausibly deny the NBC reversal. Priorities. I guess?
Donald J. Trump would have gotten a better DEAL.
And the ruskies would also have paid a lot of rubles and been thanking him!
Queen Pelosi and her
CourtCapitol Hill Press Corps.Liars for a Liar.
Remembering how Obama traded 5 ter ror ists for Bo Bergdahl, the deserter who left his post. Democrats must suk at poker.
Joe Biden to Paul Whelan, incarcerated in Russia for 4 years, upon choosing Britney Griner who has only been in Russia a few months: “Clap, you dumb bastard!”
And she was charged with crime and he clearly wasn’t.
Charged, tried and convicted!
I don’t understand the entire matter. She was guilty of breaking Russia’s laws of drug possession. Why shouldn’t she serve her sentence. Why should the American government interfere in a situation where the person pleaded guilty.
100%. Add in the mix, she/he played in Russia for many years prior. Griner knew, or should have known, not to challenge the system. Elitist mentality.