Folks, I’m not trying to bust on Ron DeSantis, I’m just highlighting the dynamic in the background to include the political players and deep connected GOP club operatives. If the truth makes me a critic, then so be it; but I’m not going to play the pretending game. Quite frankly, I’m tired of it.
Ron DeSantis is backed by the same assembly of political insiders, donors, corporations and financial backers that supported Jeb Bush. The professionally republican class know what they have in DeSantis, and he is brand organized, packaged & managed to deliver on their intents.
Former Speaker of the House Paul Ryan is as dialed in to the GOP club system as it gets. Ryan’s brass nameplate is rivetted to one of the select mahogany chairs at the club table.
Speaking Wednesday at the Robin Hood conference before billionaires Steve Cohen and Paul Tudor Jones went on stage, Paul Ryan noted the GOP 2024 nominee will be “someone other than Donald Trump.”
According to a recording of his talk, Ryan named Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, Virginia Governor Glenn Youngkin, and South Carolina Senator Tim Scott as his three favorites. {source} DeSantis fighting Disney was “really good for him, from a political perspective,” Ryan said.
DeSantis didn’t raise $200+ million, with 94% coming from billionaires and multinational corporations, for a gubernatorial reelection race in Florida. Keep in mind all of the major expenses (television ads, mailers, etc.) are coming from outside PACs and affiliated groups.
DeSantis has raised a massive war chest and he is not spending it. He has willingly accepted the positioning for a 2024 nomination effort. It is intellectually dishonest not to see what the Club is doing.
The DNC Club is doing the same thing with California Governor Gavin Newsom.
The both wings of the UniParty want a Newsom -vs- DeSantis contest.
The professional political approach is as clear now in 2022 as it was in 2014 when the clubs were organizing the Hillary -vs- Jeb contest for 2016.
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I see it fine.
The interference and patterns of interference is so obvious sometimes. Have noticed a couple of other ways Twitter messes with your account and will let ya know the next time either of the different ways occurs.
Ok…I’ll stick my neck out…
We are a long way, relatively speaking from 2024, and I know the vetting starts from here. It is a good thing we are doing it now, and it is a good thing to know who the players are and where their support comes from.
But when the dust settles and if…I say IF…DeSantis is the nominee, are voters actually not going to vote for him, or worse, refuse to vote because of the DeSantis/GOPe connection?
Whoever the Dem nominee is…let’s say Newsome…are voters prepared to see him ushered into the WH with all his liberal/Marxist/America destroying baggage because Mr Trump was not the nominee?
Would it not be better, in that vulgar saying, to be in the tent p***ing out than outside p***ing in?
The last thing…the very last thing…we need is division in the ranks when crunch time comes. There is nothing more deadly for America than to have another America hater beholding to the WEF globalists in power. Is DeSantis a closet globalist? So far we have no idea. By the time 2024 comes, there might be nothing left of us as a nation. What remains I do not want to turn of over to another Stalinist Dem.
For my part, I certainly am disappointed that DeSantis is aligning with the Ryan/Bush/McConnell etc cartel. I don’t like it. It leaves a nasty taste.
But neither will I throw the baby out with the bath. A lot can and will happen before a candidate is selected. I love Mr Trump and revere all he has done for us…and, God willing, may do again. But I will not withhold my vote in a fit of pique because the man I want to run might not be that candidate.
In that tired old phrase, time will tell. Until then, I watch…and pray. Just a few of my thoughts as this whole process plays out.
Wise words from my favorite Treeper. Here is his congressional scorecard Be well Bet!
Ron DeSantis
Freedom IndexA Congressional Scorecard Based on the U.S. Constitution
https://thenewamerican.com/freedom-index/legislator/d000621/
It really feels like a continuation of kicking the can further down the road so the elites can continue their plundering and the American Way is further eroded over time until there’s nothing left. At some point, a stand needs to be made and things need to change.
I agree friend except I think Heritage America should have made a stand long ago. When exactly would be a great argument. Perhaps the very beginning when the first constitution was ditched at the machinations of Alexander Hamilton for his banking comrades.
MIC and Banker- Financier friends are still at it. Two articles: How Private Interests and the Banking Dynasties Control Washington – LewRockwell LewRockwell.com and
Banking Crisis — The Great Unwind – LewRockwell LewRockwell.com
Agreed. I am making my stand now. The BS stops. If DeSantis needs the globalists to win, I don’t need DeSantis. To begin with, if Trump decides to run, and DeSantis gets in, I would not support DeSantis in a general. Trump has stood by MAGA and I won’t abandon Trump. I owe him that much. Trump did not need all this crap and still don’t. I do not believe the swamp will be further drained by DeSantis and his globalist supporters in the WH. Should Trump not Run, I will look at DeSantis when that time comes.
Ty.
Namaste friend CR.
I am becoming more of an accelerationist. I think it would be better to not vote for him and let everything get so bad that more people would have to wake up. If majority of people stayed home it would send a huge message and things would get so bad that maybe a new party could form. The GOP is worthless and I fear there may be no time left to take it over. I hope Trump is elected but even he plays the game and helps get more snakes elected. Maybe this time he would go all out without having to be reelected but I doubt it. The only way people will wake up is if they are hungry. Worse yet, in FEMA camps. Trump was the greatest hope and now it appears voting will not get us out of this. We have to start forming parallel communities and a parallel economy. This country is going to fracture, it is inevitable.
I have heard that argument. My older brother during the Pat Buchanan MAFA days used to point out how treacherous most of the Republicans were like CFR traitor Newt, Trent Lott & Co were. He always said the Republicans were worse than the Democrats because the Republicans would pretend to be opponents of the traitor globalist Democrats when in reality with a handful of exceptions they were not (remembering the Gingrich/Lott GOP majorities during the Clinton ChinaGate Treasonous years…….Who controls the money controls everything!
Tweedledumb and Tweedledumber
Nancy Pelosi and (CFR) Newt Gingrich Commercial on Climate Change
Excellent…
You had a wise brother.
Ty Val. Yes I did. He turned me onto MAFA during the 1992 primaries. He used to call into C-Span regularly when they were onto Free Trade/America First topics. It was so cool to listen to him talk to the guests on there. C-Span was one of the few who did not censor like so many others.
Pat Buchanan Owns Dole on NAFTA and Immigration at 96′ Debate
Yep. If the choice is a slow burn or a fast burn, I say here is my gas can.
“…let everything get so bad that more people would have to wake up wake up.”
Two more years until the next election, and every single day we are forced to take a leg lower. Every day I keep saying things can’t get much worse, and every day they do. At speed. The intent to obliterate us before that election and hand us over to the UN/WEF global government is clearly happening.
At this point, it’s probably best to just pray we are as a nation still sovereign and intact by the time 2024 arrives.
Yep.
We got here because the Republican elites sold our nation to the Globalists, all the while waving the flag and singing God Bless America.
I expect Democrats to be traitors to our country. No surprise when they trample the Constitution.
Republican elites do the same thing, only they are lying to our faces while stabbing us in the back.
It will have to get worse before it can get better, unfortunately, and even then I think it is too late.
Prepare now for the Fall of Rome.
Hegelian Dialectics. Fake Right vs fake Left
What the Left sells is fake, but they are indeed on the left hand of God.
Salutations Maquis!
Howdy Colkitto!
I agree with you that it is time to form parallel communities and economy. We can do it.
Voted to fasttrack TPP: F-
Thanks for that link, my friend. We aren’t going to get everything we want, granted…but then we never do.
And there are so many factors and forces which can and do foil, shall we call them, the best laid most well intentioned plans. For the truth of that, see what the Intelligence (4th Branch) and Judicial Department and the McConnell/Ryan faction did to hamstring and defeat Mr Trump so many times.
Regretfully, what I’ve had to admit is that it is not the President who controls things. It’s all the petty bureaucratic underlings who wield the final power.
Unless by some God sent miracle all this changes, I still rather have a DeSantis sitting in the WH than whatever foul, depraved cancer the Dems choose. We as a Republic might already be lost. It certainly looks like that to me now as the illegitimate jackboots continue to grind us all into the dirt, with no fight back by anyone in DC.
In short, I won’t sit it out. Hoping that perhaps Almighty God has a trick or two up His sleeve. We know He is fighting battles we don’t even know of. Faith and patience will be in my spiritual toolbox. I expect to use them.
Blessings always, my dear friend.
You might rather have Jeb Bush as well as DeSantis for all the difference it would make. We will not get another man like Donald Trump and now is the time, if he wants to run. He will be too old in 2028.
The whole political crowd is bought and paid for, some less than others, but Trump is the only man to take on the global cabal. Paul Ryan is disgusting. If Ron DeSantis understood MAGA he would scorn his endorsement.
If Ron DeSantis was MAGA he would support PDJT to the hilt, even at the price of his own ambitions.
Such a one might even get a MAGA nod from The Donald when it came time for such.
Yes…there are a lot of niggles here for me with DeSantis. You’ve named probably the most telling.
But here’s another thing….
Knowing what Ryan is, one has to ask…does he truly support DeSantis?
Or is he using DeSantis to be that spanner he’s desperately trying to throw into Mr Trump’s putative attempt for another term?
And if I were DeSantis, knowing what Ryan is, that’s a question I would be asking myself. How can be sure he isn’t?
He can’t because that’s the sordid unethical world of politics they all inhabit.
Or is he using DeSantis to be that spanner he’s desperately trying to throw into Mr Trump’s putative attempt for another term?
I dare say DeSantis is smart enough to know that is his primary role being offered, and that he has accepted it.
He’s smart all right, and seemingly clear eyed. I will be listening intently to every word DeSantis utters, and more important what he does not.
My exact sentiments. EXACT. ✝️
AND if he understood MAGA, he would be using those letters, saying he is not running and endorsing PDT….getting out of the way, in other words.
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Afternoon, my brother…
Just opening up an intellectual discussion in the branches. A lot of “IFs” involved. Only Almighty God knows in the end.😘🙏
The problem is that settling for a fake MAGA person (DeSantis) keeps us from doing what is necessary to get a Trump.
in most cases, a GOPe is better than a Dimm/commie but betrayal and disloyalty set the scene for future action…..RDS would have little compunction about saying one thing and doing another if it furthered his political ambitions….hard to trust one such as that to do the heavy lifting or be ready to throw down when the time is right
“… refuse to vote because of the DeSantis/GOPe connection?” Do you think most voters have any understanding of the DeSantis/GOPe connection?
Most likely not, Sharon, at least at this point. With the hated Ryan crawling out of his hole in the ground, the connection will be apparent soon enough as other RINOs join him. Just waiting for the appalling Haley to join him in hopes no doubt of joining the ticket. If that happens, we’ll know exactly where we are.
It’s a mug’s game guessing. This all presupposes Mr Trump is not the nominee. As I said, just a few thoughts running through my mind.
This all presupposes Mr Trump is not the nominee.
This all is part of the process of ensuring Mr Trump is not the nominee.
Propose and groom an acceptable alternative and drain support from PDJT, create the illusion that PDJT is not wanted or cannot win or that MAGA has moved on or outright died.
This is part of how they’ve done it to us all along, and I won’t be narrative engineered and manipulated into compliance.
Those building up DeSantis aren’t doing so in order to preserve MAGA if Trump can’t get onto the ticket, they are doing it to ensure Trump never makes it onto the ticket, and DeSantis has signed up for that ride.
I’m saying it now, I will not support him, even if it’s an act of God that keeps PDJT off the ballot, I will not vote for Brutus.
If things continue as they are, Maquis, my gut feeling is that it won’t matter. Praying otherwise.
….we are truly, at this moment…in God’s hands.
Were we ever not in God’s hands?
He is always at the helm whether we recognize it or not.
Mankind is a pretty wretched lot, and our ways aren’t his.
Truth, Harriet.
Exactly my thoughts. I’d rather go to hell in a high speed train (Newsome) than a handcar DeSantis. If it’s not Trump in ‘24 then there’s no point voting. We the People lose both ways.
Let’s get more MAGA people in CONgress in ‘22 then elect Trump in ‘24 and there’s a fighting chance.
I’ve viewed 2022 as our job interview for PDJT, not our vetting him, his vetting us.
Give him an army, and he will run.
Don’t, and it wouldn’t matter if he did.
Nicki said she won’t take second.
Who invited her?
They will if you email this article to every one in you address book.
I just did.
Get the word out and we’ll crush them at the starting gate!
I will not vote for GOPe for POTUS. No point. Same bird, two rotten wings.
I will not sell my soul for DeSantis, Youngkin or Scott.
Trump or no one in 2024.
But the problem is when Dems are in the White House we get the horrible crap we’re experiencing now.
Just remember: even RINOs won’t push to legalize abortion nationwide, won’t push to open or keep open the borders, won’t push to legalize illegals, won’t push for strict gun control, etc. Only Dems do that.
Dems are the ones who make life really awful for all of us. They really are worse than RINOs.
Dems -> RINOs -> normal GOP -> MAGA
If they play it to where it’s Damian Von Hairgel vs. Replicant Ron, President Trump would make a fantastic Governor of Florida, if for nothing else than to irritate Nan when she retires. That is the only upside I can find looking at this mess.
Delicious to think of, CR. I keep reflecting on his age. And though he is fit now, add two more years, then add however many more until the next election for Florida governor, I suspect after 2024, he will say enough…or Melanie will😉
I hope he will be blessed with many more years of good health.
Melania… obviously…
Sorry to say Betsy if that is the outcome I will do what I have done in past years, vote a conservative third party. I never voted for W Bush and I have no regret. In 1992 I voted for Ross Perot rather than hold my nose and vote for HW Bush. I never voted for McCain or Romney either. But I did vote for Trump twice and plan to do so again.
I will make a long shot prediction. Come 2023/24 if the uniparty is not successful in dismantling the MAGA base watch for a “unity” ticket to emerge with a candidate from each party running against the unbeatable (given a fair election) Donald Trump. It truly is us against them, now it is clear.
Pops was a Perot voter. I was fascinated with his campaign and got an A- on my speech about him in Jr. Highschool.
I voted for Mr. Perot, almost knowing it was a wasted vote. In fact, I think I voted for him two times. What a disappointment he was, but it kept me from voting for republicans that I didn’t want in office.
Loved Perot, and it’s our loss that he never was in a position to do all he advocated for. Third parties have never worked.
But perhaps one day that putative third party will become the second one, with the current treacherous, self enriching GOP pushed out. One can dream….
Third parties have never worked largely because we were never meant to have parties.
True, but there are many things we were not meant to have…like a Stalinist government with their own enforcement arm, used to persecute and imprison their “enemies”, political or otherwise.
When an 87 year old woman who survived the Holocaust is arrested and charged for peacefully trying to encourage pregnant women not to get abortions, I’d say we are far gone.
Indeed.
BJ,
A fair argument. Firstly, as to your question; I ALREADY made that decision, in 2012.
Rather than vote for Romney/Ryan in 2012, I voted but left the POTUS/VPOYTUS selection blank.
Along with 8 million other registered Republican voters, I refused to vote for an obvious GOPe ticket.
And, in 2018 I refused to vote for McSally, after observing yet again how the State GOPe party used the “splitter strategy” to deprive MAGA voters of their candidate.
And yes, given the long threads on this, I would say the # of commenters here, as a reflection of the R MAGA base that WILL, in fact withhold their votes, rather than vote for another RINO has grown, astronimically.
Something all who feel as you do, should consider before accepting a RINO nominee; is it WE, refusing to vote for “the lesser of two weavils” that are “Guaranteeing” the Dem leftist/globalist wins,….or is it those who cave and don’t have the courage of their convictions, to, by action and word make it clear they will ONLY vote for PDJT, and will no longer allow themselves to be jerked around and used and abused by the Paul Ryans?
Voting for the “lesser of two weavils” is what got us where we are.
Creating a new “second party” to oppose the Uniparty, by conducting an insurgency within the existing Republican party is the ONLY way forward.
This process is ONGOING, with PDJT’s full support, and may well make this issue mute by 2024.
Never the less, what Sundance is outlining, is the machinations of OUR ENEMY; Ryan and those aligned with him want US, the AmericaFirst MAGA movement destroyed, every bit as much as Pelosi.
So, voting for a GOPe sponsored candidate is WORSE than voting for a Pelosi Dem.
If Liz had won her primary in Wyoming, would you have voted for her, “because the Dem is WORSE”?
THATS what you are doing, if you vote for the GOPe sponsored ticket, in 2024.
Elections are NOT about “Dem vs Rep” or “Lib vs Con”; they are about Uniparty Globalists vs MAGA Nationalists, it really IS that simple.
Reagan said it,..”A time for choosing”,..and every MAGA patriot has to, at some point,…CHOOSE.
Choose wisely, trillions of LIVES are at stake.
I’m old, have voted many times in my life and will never ever vote for a GOPe again. I so wish PDJT had used his ammunition to create a new party when he had 81 million of us in hand at the time, but what do I know about establishing new political parties. I do think it could have worked, we were all so in his corner. We must vote prayerfully in November.
Third parties are almost always doomed due to lever C or lower. Its a huge handicap right from the jump.
I understand all your points, Dutchman.
The comparison of Cheney with DeSantis doesn’t quite work for me. In short, he has worked for the people who put him into office, and also for those who voted for the miserable Dem who ran against him. Cheney worked exclusively for herself. In my mind, the comparison is not valid.
As I said, all I wrote was predicated on Mr Trump NOT being on the final ticket. I also said, I did not know if DeSantis was in alignment with globalists. He may be and he may not be. The tell is who his running mate would be. If it were Haley, then we’d have our answer; and as we know the Ryan/Bush crowd are really pushing her for president, but I think would settle for VP…and I’m actually thinking this is plan B for the GOPe.
IF this becomes the ticket, we will know our fate as a once sovereign nation.
As fascinating and stimulating as this discussion is, in the end, we will actually have to wait and see where we are when 2024 comes around. I suspect world altering changes will be taking place well before then. None of them good. A day or a month could make all of this moot.
…and, please, give me more credit than assuming I’d vote for the excresence Cheney because she was a GOP candidate. There are lines I will never cross, my friend.
There is a reason why they hang traitors and imprison POWs.
I understand your point, and would like to add a concern of my own.
Few people, President Trump and Elon Musk being 2 I can think of, have the money and power to thumb their nose at the “donor” class.
Any Republican who wants to replace or follow in PDJT’s footsteps needs to be able to fend off challengers, personal attacks, and lawsuits, as well as counter millions in in-kind contributions from social and mainstream media and deep pocketed uniparty donors.
Does DeSantis have that kind of personal wealth or funding without allying himself with GOPe?
Not saying I’m in favor of a Paul Ryan endorsed candidate. Ryan, who comes with significant Dem baggage in his background, was willing to damage the country to subvert the Trump Agenda that American voters approved in 2016.
But I’m watching the process here in AZ, where Blake Masters is a solid candidate for Senate to replace Mark Kelly the Astronaut.
Blake is fighting for every nickle from small donors, but without millions donated by Peter Thiel he never would have survived the primaries and would certainly not be neck and neck with Kelly at this point.
Point being, grassroots support is invaluable, and the boots on the ground are all that can mitigate the fraud and election steal. But few have the ability, especially on the national level, to go up against the uniparty machine’s money and influence.
In that respect, I understand the dilemma DeSantis finds himself caught in.
To borrow a phrase, “it’s the money, stupid.”
I would love to entertain some solutions to this issue. My brain hasn’t been able to come up with any.
On funding of campaigns; KL beat her primary opponent who had a 10:1 funding advantage, as did Mastriano and Deperno.
In 2016 primary, while Hillary scoobied dooed from behind closed door, $50,000/plate dinners with donors, Sanders kept neck and neck with her, on mostly small donations.
DJT, in 2016, spent far less than Hillary, and won.
$ IS neccesary for a campaign, but is NOT decisive, when the Candidate has a superior, populist message.
“I understand the dillemma DeSantis is in”; well, KL, DePerno, Mastrianno faced the SAME “dillemma”, a “time for choosing”, and chose the harder, less traveled road.
I think it could be reasonably argued, that DJT really had NO idea, what he was opening himself, his family etc. up to, when he decided to run; how COULD he?
NO ONE in American politics has EVER before been subject to such treatment.
However, KL, DePerno, Mastrianno and many others, haveing SEEN how PDJT has been treated, went into politics “eyes open”, KNOWING how visciously they would be treated.
KL talks about when she first decided to run, and a slew of “Campaign consultants” showed up, applying for jobs in her campaign.
“DO NOT talk about the 2020 election, and DO NOT talk about the Covid responce.
Focus on traditional conservative issues.”
SHE thought “Hold it, THATS why I’m running, I MUST talk about it!” and so showed those consultants the door.
DeSantis, at some point had a similar experience, and welcomed such consultants as well as the $ behind them, into his ‘inner circle’.
We OWE it to these candidates, who knowing FULL WELL what they were letting themselves and their families in for, to NOT “Settle” for those who took the easy road.
Yes, there are a handful of candidates that are tough, strong,mand adept at swimming upstream.
Kari Lake is one of them. She is a force.
She has also benefitted from having a state Republican Party Chair, Kelli Ward, who is 100% MAGA and leads the movement here in AZ.
It’s hard to fight the GOPe on the state level, but with enough ground support the funding issue can be overcome.
Not sure that is as easily. accomplished on the national level.
That said , we have to keep moving in that direction.
The saddest part, and the most disgusting, is exactly that…$$$$$$$. And like you, I’ve got nothing…
Do you think DeSantis answers no questions while in private with big league GOPe donor types?
Do you think DeSantis has the gonads to smile and tell these donors to FO while under pressure to sell out?
Think about his vote for the TPP.
DeSantis wilted in the pressure cooker…in real time.
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I watched DeSantis when he was in congress, and also during his campaign for governor.
Wasn’t impressed.
He’s come into his own under a unique set of circumstances, and on his record deserves re-election as gov.
The fight is ongoing.
Some candidates will disappoint, and some may surprise us.
One can only hope, Frank, that since a lot of water has flowed under that bridge, he regrets that vote. Of course none of us knows if he does or not. Mr Trump arrived and held office after that vote and showed what could be done, and did it. Perhaps DeSantis has seen how wrong he was.
I’m not making excuses for him, I do hope you realize. More withholding final judgement until he actually gives us all a better view of exactly what he stands for on the national stage.
Let’s pray for a sinner who has repented.
Yes, beloved sis, we can. ✝️
Many great comments. I would add that what is at stake is our Constitution and foundation to elections. Should they be based upon who is bought by whom. Obvious answer is NO. But, that is what we are seeing.
If we’re to see any correction to this, a leader who is not under the thumb of the establishment and Congress must clean/drain the swamp one dollar at a time if necessary. We know Trump is really the only one that can do this.
I have a wait and see attitude right now, but I believe if Trump runs, he wins. If Trump decides not to run, whoever Trump endorses, including if Trump endorsed DeSantis, gets my vote.
I will no longer vote for the lesser of two evils because that leaves me still voting for evil.
And in the end, that’s the test..who does Mr Trump endorse should he himself not be the candidate. Agree.
There is ONE WAY TO AVOID DIVISION, and it’s easy.
De SAntis needs to make clear he is not going to seek that office. Period.
Exactly.
One might say he knows the game that is being played using his name, how could he not?
Thus, silence is complicity, he’s on Team Brutus.
Bingo. And soon. If he really IS for the issues he claims to he, he would have to do so.
He did once…maybe it’s time to say it again.
Yup.
I will never vote for any Republican candidate supported by Paul Ryan, Carl Rove, Pierre Dilecto, etc.
If You always do.
What You’ve always done.
You will always get.
What You have always gotten.
Voting for the lesser of two evil candidates gives you exactly that. We evolved into a two party system that has serious drawbacks.
DeSantis chose his path plain and simple. I would have voted for him had he not gone this route, and now I won’t vote for him because his allegiances will be to wealthy elitists. Few politicians in DC actually represent the average American because they are beholden to special interest groups.
President Trump is our guy. We had one term from him and hopefully another term will happen in 2024. Above all else I hope that the next Donald John Trump is in the wings preparing to run for office.
He alludes, but never says…I wonder why not.
Well said
I made a promise to myself long ago never to walk out of the voting booth holding my nose again. It only allows the dog to keep chasing its tail in the Uniparty circle. I won’t have it. Can’t please everyone so pleasing ones self moves into #1. I will not vote or support anyone with even a whiff of RINO establishment on him or her. I prefer to fight them in the open knowing rather than trying to figure out which RINO stabbed me and our country in the back this time. Holding ones nose is rewarding questionable behavior and does not promote change for the better.
I live in California and regularly vote against anti-Trump GOPe endorsed Republican candidates. I usually write-in a MAGA candidate who didn’t win the primary. I want to hang Democrat’s policies around their neck like a stinky fish.
“Moderate” Republican candidates are really just political opportunists. They allow the Democrat pundits say, “Republicans voted for it too!”
Well, Ryan’s endorsement is a red flag for me.
Not saying it will prevent me from voting for DeSantis, but I would need to investigate carefully and think long and hard before doing so.
The U.S. Chamber of Crypto-Fascist, Crony Commerce is betting you’re right.
I can promise you that RDS will not get one PDJT vote if they believe PDJT was stabbed in the back by unitary rats like Ryan, DeSantis, Pence, McConnell, McCarthy, Scott. Leaving a Nasty taste is a far cry from tyranny from a uniparty police state. I’m not interested in let’s get along. JMO.
Thanks so much for your candor and level-headedness, Betsy.
I will not write Gov. DeSantis off as ‘goner’ because some ne’er do well Big Clubbers have decided to latch onto him.
I pray that the good governor distances himself from these manipulators. I pray he won’t sell his soul to these devils.
Human beings will always disappoint. Let us hope and pray that Ron DeSantis does not disappoint his family and his countrymen~We the People~in this way.
Quite welcome, aDoozy. Exactly what I just said to Frank above. These are all issues we will individually have to deal with for ourselves….when the time comes.
PM MacMillan in Britain was once asked what could throw his government off course.
“Events, dear boy, events, ” he supposedly replied.
So in the end, that is the only certain thing about all of this.
There will be plenty of events which can and will blow a lot of people off course in the next 6 months, never mind the two years before 2024, and none of which we have any control over…none at all.
And all you pray? I do as well…
“Would it not be better, in that vulgar saying, to be in the tent p***ing out than outside p***ing in?”
You aren’t in the tent if the GOPe are in charge.
The fact is this country is headed off the cliff. The Dems want to fly off at 120mph, the RINOs want to do the same thing but going the speed limit of 65. Should it come to it, you may find some value in delaying the death of the country a few more years.
I do not.
To be truthful with you, Sigh, what I’d much rather than the two options you outline, is for this once God fearing, God worshipping country to return to Him…in all our ways. A return to a moral and godly life.
And this is what I pray for. That He provide us with warriors who can help us. As for that, remember, He chooses those warriors oft times, and sometimes they are the people you’d least expect. I pray, in his unending mercy, he will once again shed His grace on us.
And that alone is what I’d “find value” in. He alone is the One I put my faith in. No man…just Almighty God.
(Long-time reader. First-time comment)
I pray for this, too, Betsy.
Today as I watched several small children play, carefree and enjoying their big world, my heart was grieved.
Unless the Lord God intervenes, the youngest generation – including my grands, will never experience this country as I did. (I’m old…ha)
Bienvenue!
Merci!
Not voting for the lesser of evils in a Presidential election again. EVER. If DeSantis is the GOP nominee in 2024, the election will be fixed anyway and he will be instructed to lose gracefully.
My mantra is: get rid of RINOs during the primaries, get rid of Dems during the general elections. I will not vote for DeSantis in any election year GOP primary, even if Trump isn’t running. I will vote for DeSantis if he becomes the GOP nominee.
The order starting with most horrible: Dem -> RINO -> normal GOP -> MAGA
I think that’s how it has to start. At base level and work up. That has to be solid. I suspect within the next two years, everything will change in ways we can’t possibly see now. For myself, I will wait and watch and listen….we’ll see who, for all our discussion here, who is actually running. I expect a few surprises.
The answer to your question is “yes” we are not going to vote for another “traitor Pence.”
Man, talk about the kiss of death..
hear hear SD…..tell it like it IS, not how some here wish it to be……some here have actually commented your pointing out the truth is full-blown opposition to RDS including his being Governor of your state
Paul Ryan was Speaker in 2016, and wouldn’t support Trump until the primaries were almost over and it was a done deal. I’m hardly surprised that he doesn’t support Trump now.
Just because the same bunch that hitched their star to JEB! in 2016 are looking at DeSantis to save them from the Orange Man Bad, doesn’t mean DeSantis has any control over it.
I’m sure if they thought Nikki Haley, or anyone else had a chance against Trump, they would rather support them than DeSantis.
I’d like to think DeSantis was unaware that Ryan was going to make that statement, but I suspect they had communicated in advance.
Bet you a donut he doesn’t refuse the endorsement.
Doesn’t it seem that, if they think RD can “save” them from PDT, that they know his policies are not the same– or else it would just be going from the frying pan into the proverbial fire?
Dear Paul Ryan, we voters decide who becomes the GOP nominee and the President, not you or any other TDS-afflicated loser.
Here is an outsiders view.
Here in Canada we are going through a similar political farce.
We appear to be going through the throws of a failing society.
Should PDJT not be the nominee in 2024 for me it would be game over…no more voting, no more playing the B.S. game.
We have civic elections this weekend..all the candidates rattle on about Climate Change, Social Justice, Inclusivity and other drivel.
None talk about real issues that affect real people..all issues discussed are Pablum like.
Affluence at the top end and despair and despondency at the bottom.
Without exaggeration every third vehicle in our affluent community is a Tesla, Range Rover, Jaguar SUV or other high end vehicle.
The financial services and real estate rackets fuel much of the opulence.
In the early hours of the morning on my daily walk “ crackheads” and other junkies are huddled in parks or doorways.
The wealthy are not affected, the small businesses are, as are the local builders and contractors whose property is stolen or damaged.
We have lived in this “ hood” for well over thirty years.
It was once working class..not now.
A tear down house in our “ hood” is likely valued at $1,700,000 “down”from $1,900,000 or so nine or so months ago.
Many owners are griping, and yet are unable to see that it is all a mirage.
The fibre of the community has gone, and it is unlikely to return.
Selfish,Self centred and narcissistic types abound.
We are sticking around for the grandkids and other family.
Or we would be on the move…
We have our place in paradise but can only utilize it part time for now.
Cheers!
God bless PDJT
Take your family with you. There’s going to come a time (and it seems like it’s NOW) when we are going to have to gather up those we must live near/around/with and take them with us, as staying in the places where our votes mean nothing and our taxes only go to feed the enemy…is not working. What’s that motto again? Live free or die?
Can DeSantis generate the enthusiasm and giant MAGA rally crowds that Trump does? Unlikely. The club clearly does not care if they win or loose. It’s all about the game and the money that the game generates. I just hope Trump can roll over these creeps and spend 2025-2028 DESTROYING the Democrap party.
Destroying the UniParty!
“Trumps” job is NOT to “destroy the Democrap party”; without the constant enabling of the Republicon party, the Dem party has already charted its coarse to self-destruction.
“Trumps” job, and the MAGA movements job, is to wrest control away from the Republicons, OF the Republican Party, effectively in Phoenix-like fashion, having a New America First MAGA Republican party “rise from the ashes” of the old GOP.
First step, take control of STATE Republican parties, eliminating RINOS ability to block MAGA candidates during primaries.
Then, advance a WHOLE SLATE if MAGA Candidates, who are coordinating closely with each other, AND with similar slates in other States, as part of “party building”.
Use Swamp the Vote, to Defeat the Cheat, which we KNOW works.
Once elected, this slate works to aggressively prosecute election fraud, pass legislation for election integrity, pass legislation for School Choice/parental rights, coordinate with border States that make a Declaration of Invasion in order to access tools that will enable said border States to stop the trafficing,..and thereby “build the brand” of the New Republican party, eventually making the RNC irrelevant.
I hope he destroys the Republican elites. They are more dangerous than the Democrats.
This of course also tells us who the Faux (Fox) News organization is going to be 100% biased towards supporting via fabricated narratives, fake polls, and false reports.
You’ve nailed this all along, Sundance. Chalk on the sidewalk. Writin’ on the wall. Everybody knows it. Here comes Paul.
“… the words of the prophets are written on the subway walls …” Don’t forget ‘Rhymin’ Simon’!
He’s NOT our all….He’s not even “part.”
Oh, geez!
Frank Luntz reporting on Paul Ryan’s favorite picks with a follow-up support tweet from Frum 🤡🤡🤡
Ryan – bookended by Luntz the Klutz and Frum the Crumb -tells you all you need to know … and people still think Fox is on the level ? Remember also Mccarthy is Luntz roommate . PDJT will have to fight the GOPe and the Dems , they are both on the same side – no hiding it now …
I’m voting for Trump. End of discussion.
Leaving aside the matter of the best man for the job, there is that little matter of his earning a term that was stolen, that anyone with any sense of justice would insist be rectified…
The Eleventh Commandment according to Ronald Reagan is, “Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican.”
Especially now when the midterms are so close and democrat operatives are up to their shenanigans.
Patriots must hold their nose and vote for the republican candidate, no matter how bad they may smell. Once we have secured our government then we can work on eliminating the rinos. Lets not form a circular firing squad.
….“Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican.”….
Now consider how that approach can be used by an abuser, to keep the abused in their clutches.
Get rid of the Dem Party first.
GOP voters have proven that they are willing and able to vote out their scum, eventually.
Dem Voters have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that they will NEVER vote out their scum, no matter how badly it bites them in the A$$.
So>>> get rid of the Dem Party, then get to work on getting rid of every single remaining RINO.
Terrific…abuse is precisely what is going on.
Cheers!
Eliminate the RINOs during the primaries, eliminate the Dems during the general elections.
I will not vote for DeSantis in any GOP primary. If he ends up being the GOP nominee, I will vote for him because a Dem would be worse.
Nope.
I refuse to sanction my own destruction, and that is precisely what the GOP elites are planning.
You mean we’re going to”secure our government” with the club at the controls?
Dreamer.
So, why doesn’t that apply to PDT? He’s been loyal, said at a recent rally to vote up and down the ticket. Why doesn’t the party owe him the same loyalty?
Well, I left the Party in 2020 because Mitch, and Ryan too, helped overthrow us. So I guess I can speak freely since I’m not a “fellow Republican”.
There’s a lot to like about DeSantis. But he was in DC for 6 years. He didn’t stir it up. All I know is he voted for TPP.
I know this: I don’t want another Establishment Pony, even a MAGA-flavored one. I want someone who will burn it down, rip it out and salt the earth behind them.
This Rough Beast must die so Liberty may Live. Anything else is pretend.
Don’t forget about Ed Rollins PAC running run the phone petition to draft DeSantis for ’24 as advertised on Fox that I posted about the other day.
I believe this is where the Precinct Strategy will come in. If MAGA is the Republican Party, don’t they appoint the delegates? What I’m afraid of is the RNC doing to Trump what the DNC did to Bernie twice. Didn’t seem to matter what the voters wanted. This will get nasty if the will of the people is subverted again.
Not entirely sure if I have a grasp on the delegate issue, so feel free to educate me.
Bernie was a willing participant twice. He made bank both times. Also, he’s not a Dem, and should never have been allowed to run on the ticket.
Both wings of the Uniparty have always engaged in deception with their voters.
They SAY the party remains neutral, until after the primaries, which is a lie.
They use the primaries to “gyn up” the base; to build enthusiam, and to market test issues and policies the eventual candidate will campaign on.
And YES! RIGHT NOW local, distric, county and State parties have people in ‘positions of authority/responsibility’ that WILL be running primaries in 2024, running State Conventions in 2024, and selecting YOUR States representatives to the 2024 Republican National Convention,…delegates who either will, or will not fight for PDJT to be the 2024 nominee.
Standing on the sidelines, or sitting in the bleachers, or watching the game on TV is NOT AN OPTION.
GET in the game, NOW.
Yes, thanks, I will. I’m working the election but you’re right, I’m thinking the delegates are the only way not to get robbed
I don’t disagree with Ryan’s overall point that the nominee will be someone other than Trump. What will be telling is whom Ryan endorses in the primaries. DeSantis has recently lashed out against woke corporations, corporate authoritarianism, and the WEF, which is 180 degrees from Ryan’s position. Ryan is part of the GOP wing that thinks big business should be able to do whatever it wants to individuals, and he’s never had any problem with wokeness or grooming in schools. So whoever Ryan ends up endorsing in the primaries will probably be someone who agrees with him on those issues, which so far DeSantis hasn’t. Though suspicious, I haven’t heard anything persuasive against DeSantis compared to other potential nominees. What I want to know is if he is a neocon on foreign policy. I wish someone would ask him about Ukraine.
Interesting thing is: Who had all those positions back when it was not safe to do so and took all the flac for it?
Uh-huh.
TPP is a pretty danged decisive foreign policy and trade policy litmus test, and RdS failed it.
Unfortunately, many regular voters aren’t aware of DeSantis’ record of support for TPP
No one who is America First would ever have supported TPP.
You’re right it’s a litmus test.
And perhaps Paul Ryan picked them to sway them away from supporting Pres Trump.
My crazy deep state conspiracy against PDJT taking office. Brandon retires early due to health. Harris, after very briefly serving deicides to retire= read huge multimillion dollar board job. She will be rich beyond dreams. By then either a GOPe will be VP(in a deep state bipartisan move), or it will go to now Speaker McCarthy. Either way the place holder GOP RINO new POTUS will muddy up the waters for the presidential campaign. With such a mess Ronnie D will decide to put his hat in the ring to calm things down. It is a win- win for the deep state. They get rid of Brandon, Harris, and PDJT all at once. Too much coffee…I know.
McCarthy has not campaigned here in CA at all. Hmmmm AND during Newsom facing recall he didn’t show up either. It’s a joke.
If DS was smart he’d decline this “kiss of death.” Nothing says “RINO” more than Paul Ryan (unless it’s The Turd-le).
They evidently don’t know how despised Ryan is.
Is DeSantis tone deaf?
So the former running mate of the former Republican Mitt Romney is endorsing DeSantis? Color me shocked! /sarc
Tim Scott is named to cater to the GOP virtue signalers to show they are inclusive of POCs and LGTB et al.
NO NO NO NO NO
NO!
Sometimes, when the bigwigs and big givers smell a winner, they go for a piece of him despite differences on policy or priorities. Also, Ryan was once a good guy. Don’t be too quick to judge
Ryan ran as a Tea partier, he was a trojan horse. Never a good guy.
Woah. Does everybody remember how ryan let biden sit there and LAUGH AT HIM for an hour straight and never even said “What’s the matter with you,” but acted like it was a regular debate? In other words, he took a dive to freakin’ joe biden because everyone knew ryan could beat biden– so they allowed him to just sit there and laugh.
That was despicable. I remember him painted as being a good guy, but he was doing THAT as the same time, so I can’t remember him ever actually BEING a good guy.
P.S. That was the VP debate, remember?
I have had a bellyful of these Billionaires.
Sploosh! Can we flush this? It’s so big and bad and awful.
I think Ron DeSantis is an honest man. His 350K net worth says that to me.
On the other hand, he isn’t even remotely competitive with only 350K dollars to his name. So, he has to raise mega-bucks from Daddy Warbucks. It’s just reality.
President Trump, otoh, is already rich and doesn’t “need” the deep pockets of rich donors.
So, Gov DeSantis is better served by holding onto his integrity than he is by selling his soul. Wonder how he’ll pull off staying clean???
President Trump badly needs donors. He isn’t going to self fund. He’d have to sell substantial assets to do that. He needs around $900 million if he is going to run. The donors who supported him in 2020 have moved to other candidates, which is why I don’t think he’ll run.
Maybe this is just Paul Ryan rubbing his stink on DeSantis to damage him?
It pains and terrifies Ryan to see one effective GOP State Governor, let alone 2 or – shudders- 3.
If Kari Lake wins in AZ., look forward to Ryan endorsing removing her before her AZ. term is up to become a Prez candidate for ’24.
POS.
Yep – sounds like a sleezy move he’d make.
It strikes me that both the Dems and the GOP have not yet caught up to the “new communication” that the internet hath wrought.
The Dems think ALL their voters live on Twitter. No.
The GOP thinks ALL their voters read the WSJ and/or watch for Karl Rove on Hannity. No.
They don’t know anything, really.
Frum? Ryan?
They are our enemies.
How can anyone think we don’t know that Ryan.
There was a time I actually respected Paul Ryan. This was before he received the nod as VP pick by Romney.
Ryan was a wonk, a budget wonk. He worked long and hard over all those numbers, a lonely job when neither YOUR party nor the other party REALLY WANTS YOU TO ACHIEVE ANYTHING. At the time, I guess poor Paul didn’t understand he wasn’t supposed to come up with anything that really would provide for a better economic future for his young children.
Then came the VP debate: Ryan v. Biden. I’ll never forget the shell of a budget wonk I saw get his head handed to him by the likes of Biden. Ryan was evidently told to be especially deferential his elder, and as a result, he came across as young and inexperienced. YOu really have to foul up to make Old Joe look smart, but that’s what happened.
I knew then Ryan had been “turned.”
That was the end of him for me.
All he did was sit there and let biden laugh for an hour. Biden only handed his head to him in the sense that ryan looked too young and inexperienced to call him on it. I’ll never forget that, as I was astonished that it was painted as a real debate and no one in the corporate media (of course not) said anything except that biden (cough cough!) “won” !
I will agree with Sundance if DeSantis recognizes, accepts, or thanks Ryan for his endorsement. If DeSantis is quiet, I’ll write it off as Ryan trying to split DeSantis and Trump.
That’s all you need to know about DeSantis lol.
Trump is the ONLY choice.
Paul Ryan’s endorsement could quite possibly be the kiss of death.
So Ryan is looking to get rid of two of the most effective GOP State Govs. before their full terms are up.
Says exactly what we already know about Ryan.>>> Can’t have good, inspiring GOP Leadership inspiring more good GOP Leadership on the Sate Level. It’s against *everything* Ryan stands for.
Gotta stop that nonsense before it travels farther than Kari Lake, right Ryan?
I’m a fierce DeSantis supporter but I can’t argue that endorsements by Satan’s minions is not a good look. I’m not writing off DeSantis but I am on high alert.
President Trump should run as a Democrat.
I had hoped that by this point in history Paul Ryan would have been swinging from a lamppost. I hope DeSantis has people that read the Treehouse. There is no way I’d vote for DeSantis now unless he comes out very strongly and vocally that he does not want and never asked for Ryan’s endorsement.
Ryan’s endorsement carry’s the same weight as Pence. MAGA loves DeSantis but I believe MAGA will turn away from DeSantis if he seriously throws in with the establishment. It was evident DeSantis was racking up wins for Florida and they were being floated in the right places. DeSantis can not be elevated to the MAGA thrown after 8 months of manufactured high publicity moves. That trust is earned. Trump has paid his dues and is still standing with MAGA after 6 straight years of abuse. Most of that abuse coming from a broken DOJ and Democrat House and Senate if you throw in the RINO and the closet RINO. And there are many. Trump is still standing and I will stand with Trump until he decides differently. Go this route and Republicans keep the WH. Lets not forget Ryan gave the house away in 18 to contain Trump. The losses and Ryan induced retirements seen to that.
I like DeSantis’s performance, to be honest. But there were others who pushed back against federal authoritarians. DeSantis rose to prominence because he could engage the fed on a national level we could all follow. Why exactly is that, when there are other equally gifted leaders and thinks rebutting the federal abuse and overreach?
I don’t love Noem after she caved to the female sports things but not going to rewrite history – she was the ONLY Governor who never locked down her state. She hosted Trump at the 4th of July. So many “leaders” caved it’s just disappointing.
I watched DeSantis 3 hour forum about Covid and then he lifted a lot of restrictions ( after Trump called for re-opening Easter 2020) I always like these Republicans until I don’t.
Yep and his backing by Kenny Griffin who is buying himself immunity from federal prosecution seals the deal for me. DeSantis elected will be a blip on the way to complete wokism
This entire post and comments make me ill.
Which part?
Best laugh I’ve had all day.
Another way to look at it is that the GOPe Club knows they’ve lost control, and they no longer can push someone like Jeb Bush or Mitt Romney on the Republican party. It’s not that Ron DeSantis is one of them. He’s just the only one who isn’t Donald Trump that they think could win the Republican nomination. And since NeverTrump is the only ideology the GOPe has left, that’s good enough for them.
I would avoid Ryan’s endorsement like the plague.
DeSantis has done a lot of good in Florida
but will be hamstrung if beholden to Ryan and his cronies in a presidential race.
Anyone can polish up a CV to create an image — i.e., his governorship is proving a mighty handy tool in that regard.
I liken it to a couple’s courting phase; you don’t ever really know your sweetheart/intended until after the ceremony.
And the eagerness for tying the knot blinds one to the other’s myriad faults.
At any rate, Florida’s governor seems exceptionally ambitious — and that makes him susceptible to all manner of intrigue and the whittling down of his integrity and his character. I mean really, Paul Ryan?
Whew! I was just about to say, “Coveted”? It’s the kiss of death.
In any event, Ryan is not supporting DeSantis. He is (trying to) sabotage Trump. The gambit has already failed. But Ryan is not smart enough to understand that … yet.
The operative words there, as Frum knows very well, are “if defeated.” Those insiders count on the country believing a “defeat” is what they say it is, a “challenge” is what they say it is (that is, fine for dims, not for others), an “insurrection” is what they say it is ( 300 FBI-led protestors but not a 3-day siege of the WH) and all the rest.
Thanks, Frum. You opened a lot of eyes today. My mind was already made up– you don’t steal someone else’s earned presidency. his movement, his issues, his attitude and stance, etc….that’s not just disloyal but a sign of bad character. So I was already slotting RD in the 2028 slot. But if he does not speak up for MAGA soon (using those letters, not just stealing the issues and the bold stance), I won’t even be considering him for ’28, and neither will a lot of others.
No more establishment, thank you.
I find it fascinating that these ass clowns like Luntz talk about candidates as if there were not 100 million Trump only voters!!!
Let’s put it this way. SD has been right on this RDS (and any other) candidate all along. If Trump doesn’t run. Maga is over and done. Unless he can persuade the faithful to vote someone else. Anyone want to guess as who PDJT would recommend? It may be why Trump waits it out. IMHO, it’s PDJT or no one. HE and he alone can win this back with the support of the 100 million MAGA.
I’ve read all if not most of the comments on this thread. And while I can understand that some are reluctant to distance themselves from a possible
Desantis run & selection I have only this to add…
The 2020 election was not stolen from PDJT, it was stolen from We The People! We deserve to have our rightfully elected candidate fulfill the mandate we provided. If we were to then reverse course & accept the “devil you know versus the devil you don’t” alternative then we are sending a clear message to the GOPe & other establishment swamp creatures that we (MAGA Nation) are defeated, have forgotten their deceptive tactics & have now moved on from their corruptive & deceptive behaviors.
It would be another generation before we would ever get the chance to course correct this tyrannical ship.
PDJT in 2024 or nothing!
PS: it’s 15:50 CST in Texas & Dan Crenshaw is still an Oxygen Thief!
The Paul Ryan endorsement should be the kiss of death for DeSantis’ presidential run. This needs to be broadcast everywhere.
Paul Ryan sucks and the rest of the Republican base knows it. “If defeated, he’d go peacefully”. Well shove it where the sun don’t shine Frum! PDJT WAS NOT DEFEATED; HIS VICTORY WAS STOLEN! And if you don’t believe that, then you’re an idiot. Or maybe you do know that because you’re a treasonous conspirator!
These clowns just don’t get it. The Republican base is MAGA and will support President Trump no matter how much money they throw at any of those guys. They threw hundreds of millions at low energy Jeb in 2016 and how did that work out for them? How many millions did they throw at GOPe candidates in the primaries this year, only to see them fall one by one to MAGA opponents who had far less money? Did they expect Liz Cheney and cryin’ Adam Kinsinger’s J6 BS committee to take PDJT out so one of these guys can take his place in 2024? How has that worked out for them? Cheney is out on her ear now and WY wants nothing to do with her, but I’m sure there is a uniparty lobbying job for her someplace in DC.
I’m a Republican Party volunteer, Texas GOP delegate and election judge. I’ll be coordinating block walkers all over this county for 2024 and I’ll be doing that for PDJT, not some Paul Ryan yoyo!
This guy lost a debate to Joe Biden.
No, he did not. Ryan totally owned him. Ryan came across as an extremely knowledgeable, likeable person and Biden as a pushy, loud and rude A hole. I saw the entire debate. I’m sure it’s on video some where. That story has taken hold but it is 100% wrong.
you are absolutely right Bstew..what Biden did was a joke..but the narrative went out that he “won”!!! anyone who had eyes and ears saw how bad he was….his snake persona was front and center.!!!!!!!!!
But you didn’t notice Ryan’s snake eyes? His split tongue! His TWO HEADS
I know, I don’t know how to post pics, that have been around forever on the net – on THIS site. I did it once and forgot how. I’m speaking of the common two-headed rattlesnakes that flooded the animal pic market a few yrs ago. and another one of a snake that flew at a man[‘s head and sank his fangs into the man’s NOSE. The Profile Pic, the man was still screaming.
I hate not being able to post them. At my age, I KNOW how RARE they are – actual photos.
So while you are watching “The Dangerous One”, Ryan gets you right on the NOSE!
And you NEVER???? Saw him coming?????????? He is BOEHNER’S BABY, and his PROTEGÉ BROS are Kevin McCarthy and Eric Cantor.
That foursome have more pics together on the Net that ANYONE AT ALL ELSE does.
PAUL RYAN???
He may have SOUNDED intelligent, but he IS the HARRY REID of the House!
He will LICK Biden’s BOOTS. He will most likely also play with Biden’s leg hairs for him, too. Just like McCarthy.
Maybe you missed this at the end of the article:
David Frum: “Maybe you don’t like DeSantis’s manner or record, but he’s a recognizable normal US politician. If defeated, he’d go peacefully.”
And DeSantis is who RYAN wants to run in ’24 ????
“He’ll go Peacefully”?????
Yeah – SURE he beat Biden in the DEBATE.
What difference does THAT MAKE if you’ve already THROWN the ELECTIONS to whoever replaces Biden in ’24???????
Buckethead was just being himself in that debate.
When the establishment ignores the fact that no candidate has any realistic chance to beat Trump in an election, it tells me the fix is in. They did it once before at the expense of thousands of lives and livelihoods in the form of a fake pandemic. Media is there to apply the spray paint as usual.
I always thought Dole,McQueda,Jackass Romney ran to lose on purpose. So I do believe you are right
Again?
Election fraud for me but not for thee.
LOL!
YEAH!!!
RIGHT OUT LOUD!!!
David Frum: “Maybe you don’t like DeSantis’s manner or record, but he’s a recognizable normal US politician. If defeated, he’d go peacefully.”
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but he’s a recognizable normal US politician. If defeated, he’d go peacefully.”
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normal US politician. If defeated, he’d go peacefully.”
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If defeated, he’d go peacefully.”
he’d go peacefully.” ……… Peacefully…..
“Coveted”?
By what standards and values?
The RINO Swamp?
I suspect Sundance was exercising blackbelt level of sarcasm.
Oooo….nice gravatar! 😉
Oh, you DO, Do you!!!
hehehehe
Yes, by RINO’s. Pretty clear that Sundance was being sardonic and referring to what the Swamp would consider “coveted”.
This one hits close to home. I bought the Paul Ryan scam in 2012, which made me accept Romney. I thought the “fiscal warrior, strong beliefs, standing firm,” sale on the Lyin’ Ryan was based on reality given who was selling it – the “conservative” media.
I have not and will not forgive Ryan for his hypocrisy, duplicity, and support for globalism. I do not have more contempt for any political person than I do for him. As to his supposed conservative bona fides I was fooled, I bought it, and I am not in a forgiving mind about it – it is personal.
I have been mostly just observing the DeSantis discussion, but this endorsement is toxic. My jaundiced eye has increased by several notches.
Does anyone remember when Ryan was called “Shark Eyes”. Creepy creepy . Slicked back hair and Romney’s running mate. How Trump must hv detested him
Agree!
Yeah! THAT was PRICELESS!!!