According to The Boston Globe, officials in Martha’s Vineyard are holding an emergency meeting to deal with the crisis of 43 illegal alien arrivals, including one four-year-old child. The group arrived via a chartered flight dispatched by Florida Governor Ron DeSantis.
According to state representative Dylan Fernandes, “when you look at the limited housing options on Martha’s Vineyard, as I’m sure many of the folks here are aware, it’s likely we’re going to need an off island location.” As noted by the Globe …”a Zoom meeting has been scheduled for emergency management officials from the island along with people from the Massachusetts Emergency Management Agency to discuss the next step for the immigrants.”
(Boston Globe) […] Fernandes also strongly condemned DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott of Texas for sending the migrants to the Vineyard.
“To use women and children as political pawns is cowardice. Governor DeSantis is a coward,” Fernandes said. “Their communication on this, Governor DeSantis’s on this, was to jump on Fox News and beat his chest about how tough he is on immigration. It’s inhumane. It’s depraved.”
DeSantis defended the move in remarks to reporters on Thursday during a briefing at Northwest Florida State College.
“Every community in America should be sharing in the burdens. It shouldn’t all fall on a handful of red states,” he said. Other states “don’t like it as much when you get just a small, small, small amount compared to what these folks have dealt with in Texas and in other states.”
Florida’s message, DeSantis said, is that it’s not “a sanctuary state.”
“Now what would be the best is for Biden to do his damn job and secure the border,” he said.
Susan Church, a prominent immigration lawyer based in Cambridge, said a team of attorneys in Massachusetts is working with advocacy groups including the Lawyers Committee for Civil Rights and Economic Justice to interview the migrants and determine whether they’d be eligible for victims of crimes visas, based on reports they were coaxed into getting on a plane under the pretext that their paperwork would be expedited.
“They were duped in to getting on to the plane,” said Church, former chair of the New England Chapter of American Immigration Lawyers Association. “This is akin to kidnapping.” (read more)
While the apoplexy and pearl-clutching from the condescending and sanctimonious democrats is political fuel for ridicule, at the end of the day these transports of illegal economic migrants, illegal aliens, is not a solution.
Desperate times do call for desperate measures, and we desperately need to see the southern border secured, immediately. If the transports lead to backlash from Democrat officials and politicians, and that hypocrisy leads to facing the reality of the border crisis created by Joe Biden, then perhaps something positive can come from this approach.
I find myself torn between seeing this as a political gimmick yet understanding that some shift in the national narrative is needed. If this approach delivers that shift, if more people wake up to the border crisis, then something positive could be gained. However, at the end of the day these unlawful migrants are people.
Florida Governor Ron DeSantis answers questions earlier today:
Illegal / unlawful migrants made a conscious decision.
They knew / know what they are doing.
If they become part of a ‘political gimmick’ so be it. 🧐
I bet they enjoyed the air conditioned flight and were probably fed well. Small price to pay for criminal conduct.
FAUX News interviewed an illegal just getting off the plane on Martha’s Vineyard. He said we know we are here illegally. We came because Pres. Biden invited us to come here illegally. The border is not secure.
You can’t summarize it any better than that. FJB & Massachusetts hypocrites.
Sundance, I have run out of empathy for these illegals. I’m glad I have no children or grandchildren. The fact that Democrats want Republicans dead but purportedly “embrace illegals” as long as they’re a burden to the middle & lower class somewhere else just makes me despise illegals more.
It’s not a gimmick when your City/County/ State has declared itself a “Sanctuary” for Illegal Immigrants.
Sanctuary Cities are *exactly* where these people should be sent.
Frankly, I’m surprised this has never been done before, and bravo to Abbott for setting this example for other Govs. to follow.
My *only* problem w/ it is I wish they’d start sending them to the West Coast Sanctuary Cities, or the Colorado Sanctuaries, etc. . It is Too. Easy. for all these people to get back to FL., etc. from the East Coast and Chicago.
But I understand the initial impact of sending them to D.C., NYC, etc.
Limited housing options? Aren’t many of those houses just part-time occupancy since their owners have several houses and also travel all over the world? No one needs more than one house. OK, no one needs more than two houses. One for winter and one for summer. S/
I’m sure the illegals would be very grateful to stay in whatever was available.
Barky’s beachfront shack likely has a few spare bedrooms. And his place is just the beginning.
Don’t forget all the rooms that aren’t filled in their mansions.
Why can’t the current illegals at MV just live on the streets there like in LA and San Francisco?
After Labor Day the population goes down drastically. The summer population swells to 200,000. The year-round residents number 17,000. There’s lots of room.
On top of that many have guest houses. pool houses and/or what most call mother-in-laws quarters.
Give them tents and let them pitch them on Long Point Beach, Lucy Vincent Beach or Lambert’s Cove Beach.
N/M
Nothing says a housing crisis like 15 empty bedrooms at the beach house…
I hope the illegals refuse to leave. I hope they open a taco shop and tire repair business on their corners. The amount of these invaders in that have been dumped in Louisiana are in millions. Notice even their kids have Ralph Lauren shirts on their backs in the pics.
Maybe MV schools can open a English Second Language (ESL) for them also. Maybe they can even file a tax return with the local teenagers SSN like they did mine here in Louisiana. Keep spreading the joy!
Let’s not forget, most of them are devout Catholics that vote red. Wouldn’t it be funny of they turned Martha’s Vineyard red?! LOL
You are assuming they are Hispanic and from Mexico. Every country in the world is dumping their prisons and monsters here-SubSahara Africa, Syria, Afghanistan, and they aren’t Catholic
If these were genuinely devout RC’s then they would obey laws about crossing another country’s border.
They steal into our country illegally and now they’re considered victims of a crime and kidnapping!!!
Looney tune idiots
Like the illegal alien girl coming off the bus and giving the double barreled middle finger to the cameras or the Venezuelan Tik Toker I saw this morning that said that the USA would be gone in two years? MS-13 gang bangers? If that’s representative of these people I have very little sympathy. Since we can’t give them free trips back to Mexico or their own country of origin, ship them by the mother loving literal box car load to blue hell holes. They want them, they can have them.
According to state representative Dylan Fernandes, “when you look at the limited housing options on Martha’s Vineyard, as I’m sure many of the folks here are aware, it’s likely we’re going to need an off island location.”
What a condescending asshole. I suppose that is the reason they call them Massholes. The American Northeast everyone, we’re freedom was born and then smothered in it’s cradle.
Martha’s Vineyard Resident Calls Police To Report A Hispanic In The Neighborhood Not Operating A Leaf Blower!!
https://babylonbee.com/news/marthas-vineyard-resident-calls-police-to-report-a-latino-in-the-neighborhood-not-operating-a-leaf-blower/
send in more planes… the hypocrisy is becoming very obvious and thats a good thing… desantis deserves credit here.. give it to him
I love Abbott’s response…at the Naval Observatory.
Let’s keep up now red states…who moves next?
SD giving DeSantis credit?
LOL.
It’s ok, DeSantis left the machines in place so Oxycodone Tsunami Crist can win and he can have some time off to fund raise for ’24.
Yes, they’re people. People we did not invite and should not be responsible for. If the Democrats love them so much, THEY should assume responsibility for them. Our State is being overrun. Crime is up. Social services cost us BILLIONS annually here in Texas. It’s not right. Period.
Love it, keep it up, don’t forget Jackson Hole WY, Colorado Ski Resorts, Entire NE, Minneapolis, Portland, Seattle, etc.
Send them by the millions, give out vouchers for bus rides to these places to everyone that comes across the border illegally.
Make it their problem and see how easily they fold. Hypocrites!
Your Slave Masters have some information for you
Oh hell yeah bus them to Aspen and Vail
Yes, these migrants are people. But, they are illegally in the US. They know that. Deport them to where they came from.
“People breaking the law”…fixed it for you.
I remember arriving in Melbourne and the name on my passport not exactly matching that on my ETA (electronic travel authority, basically a visa)…… four walls and a chair until the Oz immigration folks sorted it out, fortunately only a couple hours. Else, illegal alien and ain’t getting in, 14 hour flight back to where I came from. That’s reality as a ‘citizen’.
Send more..like all of them.
A meme of The Black Dog Tavern logo written in Spanish would be a big hit right now.
Keep chartering the buses and planes. These are illegals being let in by the DemoSocialists, let them eat cake!
Unlawful migrants are people. Yes and unlawful means they are also criminal people under the law regardless.
However, these hypocrite elite politicians that allow, support and facilitate this illegality to continue on their open border WEF policies are the real criminals.
This may be a political gimmick. However, the promoted, intentional, invasion at border is and has always been a sinister political gimmick against the American citizens from the Communist Democrat Party and the Corporate RINO GOPe
Although these so called “illegal immigrants” may be pawns in a WEF world political cold war, nevertheless, they knew it was illegal when they came here for the free stuff promised to them provided by the taxpayers. These rich elite snobs in exclusive enclaves, like the Martha Vineyard virtue signaling scum, have not been, until now, affected by their open border policies.
Therefore as the old sayings go “All is fair in love and war” and “turn about is fair play”. Let the sanctuary, virtue signaling “elites” deal with their love illegal aliens, equity and ‘diversity is our strength” narrative. Personally, regardless of the political motives, I support this move by the States that have to bear the brunt of the actions of The District of Corruption Criminals. Sorry….not sorry.
Exceptional post.
100% Agree !!
Martha’s Vineyard is now the Hypocrisy Capital of the U.S.
Good post, but it is not hypocrisy. Hypocrisy is do as I say, not as I do. Feigned piousness.
This is two completely different systems.
This is you will do what we say, we don’t have any intention of making ourselves do it, and if you don’t like it, we will destroy you.
It’s much closer to fraud -lying for personal financial gain.
Anyway, I’ve said for years there are two completely different rule books, one for Team Blue, and one for Team Red. They’re telling us those illegals can’t come to Martha’s Vineyard because the Team Blue rule book says “talk like MLK, live like the KKK”.
But But But the Marxist Libs love criminal illegals. What Happened?
Who is the “we” in this poster? The people of Martha’s Vineyard? And what does it actually mean to “stand with” the various groups? Talk is cheap. How about putting them up in their own houses and form their own schools and stay out of our ours? For starters.
Ovomit’s mansion sits on 12 acres…plenty of room for tent cities
Well, that should settle it. Of course they stay. /s
“UNLESS…”
Martha’s Vineyard two weeks ago “All Are Welcome Here!”.
Martha’s Vineyard two days ago “Get These Mexican’s Out of Here NOW!!!!”.
Yeah, they are people. So what? Rapists are people, too. I don’t shed tears over them when they get what’s coming to them.
In my dad’s day that border was secure and nobody messed with a USBP Agent. I knew a pilot (later my dad’s Chief Pilot) who buzzed an illegal alien on horseback with his airplane and accidentally knocked the guy off his horse–fatally–with one of the main wheel tires. This was in the early 60s. The message that went out (even though it wasn’t true as it was not the intention of the pilot to hit the man) was that the Border Patrol would fly down with their planes and kill you if you crossed illegally. That area of the border was a ghost town for a long time after that. DETERRENCE sometimes requires force. It’s that simple.
When Silvestre Reyes was the El Paso Sector Chief (during the Clinton Administration of all things) he ran OPERATION HOLD THE LINE. They used Agents on horseback and Agents on foot from one end of the sector to the other to lock that area down tight. “DENIAL OF ENTRY” was the goal and it worked. They pushed these illegals back across the border. It worked. Then the operation ended and crossings eventually returned to prior levels.
Yes, these are people. But it’s like one of my pilot buddies told me when I was flying in Nigeria, “You can’t save them all, and if you try you’ll only hurt yourself.”
These people are going to take us down with them. In a situation where it is us or them I choose us. Because you do not get rid of behavior by subsidizing it. We are going to go down with lifeboat because these “people” are swamping it. In the end, they drown, too.
Sounds like this would be an excellent site to demonstrate how well mixed income housing works and how little impact it has on home values.
Hoooooo boy! BINGO!
Notice that the GOPe are still silent on this issue.
I’ve read there have been more than 5 million illegal border crossings since Biden took office. There should be at least one million sent to elite enclaves like Martha’s Vineyard. People who say it makes it harder to deport the foreign nationals illegally in our country are missing the point in my view — these people will never be deported under the current regime anyway, so send them to the people responsible for our open borders, let them deal with it. The southern border states have been hurt badly by the border chaos, enough is enough.
Fernandes also strongly condemned DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott of Texas for sending the migrants to the Vineyard.
“To use women and children as political pawns is cowardice. Governor DeSantis is a coward,” Fernandes said. “Their communication on this, Governor DeSantis’s on this, was to jump on Fox News and beat his chest about how tough he is on immigration. It’s inhumane. It’s depraved.”
According to state representative Dylan Fernandes, “when you look at the limited housing options on Martha’s Vineyard, as I’m sure many of the folks here are aware, it’s likely we’re going to need an off island location.”
He doesn’t see it. They are so condescendingly arrogant, so smug, so sure of their own righteousness that they cannot see their own blatant hypocrisy.
No one ever went broke betting that liberal are hypocrites. People should be made to live with the real time effects of their hypocrisies.
But, they are sophisticated on the Vineyard.
/s
Using women and children as political pawns is cowardice?
But using them as fake voters or replacements for US citizens is heroic ?
Of course Fernandes sees it. He is a BS artist. All of the Ruling Class Elites know damn well exactly that DeSantis and Abbot are simply countering the elites’ game and throwing it back into the elites’ faces. But those same Totalitarian elites are well-practiced masters at lying through their teeth, virtue signaling, and pretending to be victims in front of their buddy media’s cameras and microphones.
Funny it isn’t inhumane when Biden flies illegals to states in the middle of the night.
Am thinking there are different categories of “illegals.”
There’s your illegal who was duped into getting on a plane for MV. Harmless sort of person, probably uneducated and far too trusting. Or desperate.
Then there’s your illegal with a definite predilection to engage in Antifa-type activities.
The feral illegals are the ones being flown into populous American cities, because that provides anonymity.
Someone, somewhere, is making the distinction between the two, so that Illegal 1 gets the sympathetic news coverage and Illegal 2 stockpiles bricks on city streets and learns how to blind a LEO with a laser.
There doesn’t seem to be many other options than these antics to bring MSM attention to the border crisis. The hyena was just on MSNBC saying the border is secure. KJP, the spin master, says this everyday to reporters. Fox seems to slowly, like molasses flowing in January, elevate this crisis home to the general masses. It certainly comes off as a gimmick, but no publicity is bad publicity, right? Maybe this will bring much needed sunlight to this horrible, dark, demonic game Xiden and company are playing with our border. These people are being trafficked, exploited, and abused. Every town is a bordertown thanks to this administration. That makes this crisis everyone’s crisis!
“when you look at the limited housing options on Martha’s Vineyard, as I’m sure many of the folks here are aware…” ?
Huh? MV averages about 200,000 during Summer season, and off season population is 17,000. Summer season is ending now, do the math, there’s vacant housing for tens of thousands.
I live in downstate Illi-Noise…Chicago will do what they have been doing for years now – They have been shipping welfare people down state – They will do the same w/ the illegals
So it’s kidnapping when DeSantis sends illegals to Martha’s Vineyard and human generosity when the feds deliver illegals to FL or any other state.
It’s not a gimmick
It’s the dem playbook from rules for radicals
RULE 4: “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.”
If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules. (This is a serious rule. The besieged entity’s very credibility and reputation is at stake, because if activists catch it lying or not living up to its commitments, they can continue to chip away at the damage.)
The left is not interested in a real debate, only the end results. I believe using their tactics may bring them to the table. It also wakes up the run of the mill Democrat in those areas. We need to make them defend their position or they will stay on offense. Their flank is vulnerable.
Hey Boston Dem voters – what do you think of that?
Typical progressive hypocrisy: Illegals for thee but not for me.
During 2021 Latin America and the Caribbean (LAC) received 127.6 billion dollars in remittances, which constitutes an annual growth of 26.0%, the highest registered in the past 20 years. This was nearly triple the level in 2005, with the highest growth rate in history. 🤔
2021 marked a year of historically high remittances to Mexico, with the country receiving over 51.6 billion dollars. 🧐
Tax the remittances.
these unlawful migrants are people
soylent green is people too
American citizens are people. We’ve been being abused by these other “people” for far too long.
ENOUGH.
I’m going to repeat what I said earlier: these illegals will be dumped onto Cape Cod.
For those of you who see the words Cape Cod and think of Patti Page, the Kennedy Compound, and sand dunes let me dispel those delusions. The woods around Barnstable are full of homeless tent camps. There are pan-handlers on the street corners of Hyannis, and in its K-mart almost every sign is in Portuguese. Outside the Falmouth Wal-Mart, homeless people are living in the bus pick-up shelter. It is not uncommon to find discarded needles on residental streets.
Many of these people “experiencing homelessness” are part of the large and growing illegal community already present on the cape. The 2019 attack on a MAGA hat wearer, which made national news, occurred in a Falmouth restaurant; the attacker was an illegal alien from Brazil.
If things are this bad here, I cannot imagine what it is like along the southern border. But this hardly a promised land untouched by the ravages of illegal immigration.
keeler,
I hear you, I also have been making the same observations.
I guess I have been too disgusted to talk about, alcoholism, drugs and pot, pot, pot, epidemic, within every age group.
Did I miss the statement from POTUS OBAMA… Shouldn;t he be
welcoming those folks…
So some Americans want to help, others can’t be bothered. Money talks, then hands the problem off to someone else and goes back to sleep. Actions speak much much louder than lame words.
I think that these illegal aliens need to be delivered to all the wealthy Democrat suburbs in the US. Every one of them.
If these were only people who were seeking a better life for themselves, they could come here legally. BUT….they are willing to do criminal acts to get here, knowing that they are criminal acts. How willing are they, once they get here, to do more criminal acts to get things they want because they just want? A friend had many small things stolen by an illegal alien she hired to do housework until the friend suddenly realized that things were missing. She isn’t wealthy, just someone who was trying to help a needy family in coordination with her church.
And they are people who want the freebies – free money to support them, free housing, free meals, free education, free healthcare, free phones, free drug paraphernalia – without any loyalty to our country, without any plans to repay the generosity, without any plans to help build the US.
I see so many of the elements that led to the downfall of the Roman Empire….devaluation of the money, political military leadership, a corrupt ruling elite, free grain, bread, and circuses, total immorality, wasteful spending and debt, and the waves of barbarians who were used as an underclass of labor and the ranks of the military, changing the cultural cohesion of the society.
I commend Abbott and Desantis…There needed to be more national attention to the border invasion. Their actions have been nothing short of brilliant and it also revealed the hypocricy of the left in ways the left could not combat besides resorting to the usual name calling and of course, resorting to themselves as victims.
If Texas and other states absorb all the illegal immigrants that is tantamount to sweeping the problem under the rug. And flying them to other locations in the middle of the night is deceptive. Send the illegal immigrants in broad daylight to all the politicians who say there is no problem. Let the politicians answer the question as to who is going to pay to shelter, feed, clothe the millions of illegal immigrants.
You wanted to be a sanctuary city, start acting like it.
Yes, they’re people. And punishment is highly effective at deterring criminal behavior in people.
They got dropped off in one of the wealthiest elitist enclaves – literally an island of rich people – in the world. This is a human rights offense akin to serving imitation crab in California roll at a free sushi buffet.
Get used to the word “fraud” when it comes to liberals. They’re frauds. They demand unlimited immigration as long as they don’t have to see it or feel the effects. They prosecute non crimes by others and ignore real ones committed by their own. They raise inflation while claiming to reduce it. They claim to love people but kill babies. They rig elections while claiming to champion “democracy”.
Frauds, they’re all frauds.
Do not let them get under your skin like this. It’s how they beat you…they know you’ll try to be “reasonable”. This is a war. We are not required to play by the Left’s rules of warfare.
Punishment deters behavior.
Pain is an excellent teacher. Matches can burn, dogs can bite and illegals can ruin society.
I was listening to Wilkow this week on the Patriot Channel. He was going off on this very subject. He said they are all getting taken care of on our tax dollars of $$$ millions. They all get cell phones when they arrive. They are fed, given clothes and money and free healthcare. They are also mainly males. Some Americans are being robbed, raped, or murdered by some of them and many judges not all let them go.
We also don’t know where they came from. They are not required to be vaccinated like we are so they bring in all kinds of diseases. The children are put into the schools which overcrowds classrooms. Then, they hire special language teachers. Some of the children and adults are also kidnapped and sold into sex trafficking. The drug smuggling is off the charts. I can go on and on. This whole thing is a serious disaster.
The RNA vax can be lethal. It would be a crime to give it to illegals.
Absolutely agree, words like hypocrite aren’t going to get it. They just laugh it off, their voters don’t care until they are affected
Statement:
’Not enough housing on the island’, they said?
Oh, ok, our bad.
Solution:
Send along enough tents to cover for the shortage.
There, FIFY.
I think that there are empty bedrooms in Obama’s house on Martha’s Vineyard. I’m sure he’ll be a welcoming host.
And his newly installed giant propane tank can handle the extra cooking and hot showers.
J Brown I am going to add, “and chocolate is an ok color.” For MOoshell.
Martha’s Vineyard has a year round population of around 16,000.
During peak summer vacation season there are over 100,000 people living on the island.
Certainly they can house 50 “dreamers” during this off peak time of year /sarc.
The comment, “we’re going to need an off island location” gave the entire game away.
Well done Govna!
PS: the island is very rural with lots of open space. It’s basically open farm country in between the few big coastal towns.
I think it will shift the narrative. Something has to.
If only their homes weren’t from all over the flipping planet. Are you aware of the origins of these people? It isn’t “Mexico.” It’s from all across Africa and the Middle East as well as southern and central America.
This statement sums everything up…
Susan Church, a prominent immigration lawyer based in Cambridge, said a team of attorneys in Massachusetts is working with advocacy groups including the Lawyers Committee for Civil Rights and Economic Justice to interview the migrants and determine whether they’d be eligible for victims of crimes visas, based on reports they were coaxed into getting on a plane under the pretext that their paperwork would be expedited.
“They were duped in to getting on to the plane,” said Church, former chair of the New England Chapter of American Immigration Lawyers Association. “This is akin to kidnapping.”
“To use women and children as political pawns is cowardice. Governor DeSantis is a coward,”
Fernandes is projecting, like all the dims do.
What happened to Liberals quoting “Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses”? First thought is to shuffle their huddled masses off to someone else. No spare rooms on MV? At the time when this poem/plaque was placed on the Statue of Liberty there were a little over one billion people on earth, now seven, how many billion do we welcome in?
“Where the banana grows, man is sensual and cruel”–attributed to Ralph Waldo Emerson.
“. . . these unlawful migrants are people.”
Whose house do you suggest we send them to? How about those communities that established themselves as sanctuaries for these same people.
Martha’s Vineyard is full of multi-bedroom mansions. I’m pretty sure about that.
Haven’t ever seen MV, but I know that the other places that Millionaires/Billionaires escaped to (like Bar Harbor) had a lot of those. So, I imagine, MV is the same.
IOW, plenty of roof space to sleep under. Plenty of *large* yard space to build temporary housing on, too. (Views of your very own Private Beach as an added bonus!)
And> in Bar Harbor anyway, most (ALL?) of those mansions were empty in the winter cuz the wealthy escaped to their homes in FL., Hawaii, etc.
So that just opened up MORE space.
Heck, you could fit 1oo people *comfortably* in ONE of those places., if you count all the extra rooms>>> libraries, dens , extra LRs, etc.
Not to mention, they even had mega Greenhouses to move outdoor plants into for the Fall, Winter and Spring seasons. They were lovely, mainly empty, and heated all winter.
Just thinking this “lack of space ” thing thru logically here.
“They were DUPED into getting on a plane”?????
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yep. The narrative makes it sound like they were herded into boxcars.
Illegals are people too.
/s
Pitch some tents and allow them to dwell on Obama’s beach front. Is it private property?
-Or, perhaps the loving…. Obama’s will open their security fence / wall
and enjoy them living on their lawn.
-party ! 🎊
I usually try to post more insightful comments, but this time all I can manage is “Mwuahahahahahah!”
These “wonderful folks who are all just here to do the work that Vineyard residents just won’t do” … are gonna be ferried over to Nantucket Island … the conservative version of Martha’s Vineyard. Damn it Jimm! These are PEOPLE, not Tribbles!