The Elon Musk appearance on the All-In podcast has generated a lot of news. Below is the entire interview.
The first 20 minutes is worth watching if you do not have the time for the entire broadcast. WATCH:
(Pictured above) Elon Musk reacting to “there’s less than 5% bots on Twitter”…
Crazy like a fox!
That Chamath guy and some of the others on that panel are such left coast California apologists.
Chamath “Biden kept everything the same”. What freaking planet and country is he living in?
Peter Thiel just sits there watching these sleaze
He has them by the SHORT HAIRS. Lawsuits up the wazoo coming.
Musk is burning Twitter to the ground. False SEC filings = Wall Street will never trust them again.
Musk’s offer contingent on exposing the totally phony business model of Twitter.
https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/bodies-in-the-street-after-the-allied-fire-bombing-of-news-photo/52007416
When it was first announced he had put a ‘pause’ on his offer…..those were my exact words!
Musk just responded to the Project Veritas expose’. By doing nothing more than asking, he draws attention to people who would otherwise never see or hear about it. Moreover, the question is posed neutrally so the usual leftist framing on “editing” isn’t obfuscating the charge.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/05/elon-musk-responds-project-veritas-undercover-video-twitter-engineer-admitting-commie-fck/
Is this legit?
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) May 17, 2022
Has PV ever released anything not legit, Elon?
Pay attention.
He’s getting it out there and getting others to consider digging in to answer his question.
He needn’t editorialize and he does have some limitations on his statements whilst the takeover is in progress.
No disrespect to you.
But, does PV edit their undercover interviews?
If the answer is yes then it’s understandable the Left Wing would use that to discredit PV.
PV does edit their videos for clarity and brevity. However there full length ones are available.
It was rhetorical.
And now the world is staring at it.
Twitter is in trouble.
His answer was perfect.
It was a great way to start a discussion. Why is Twitter
(and all other social networks) partial to only one side.
Twitter is like the 1984 Televiewer, not only can US Intel listen in on everybody but it does something Orwell’s device didn’t do: create fake people with fake opinions to make normal people think they were in the minority of thought.
And fake votes create fake presidents who think they are in the majority..
And psych jobs believe they’re a part of a majority!
Which are thereby emboldened to be all anarchy and stuff.
Don’t forget paid too.
This is on target.
Actually I think that is what ZOOM does. Listen in and watch what everyone is doing, including churches, which is what the gubt has wanted for years.
All of a sudden we have a scamdemic and everyone readily adopts ZOOM and starts living out their lives there, including school children. It’s their dream come true.
https://investors.zoom.us/news-releases/news-release-details/zoom-appoints-janet-napolitano-board-directors
Ditto. I have discontinued any virtual interaction outside of work for exactly this reason.
For any reader which may not have considered this – try out the “turn on closed captions” option in Zoom or Teams. It is highly accurate! I’m sure this is all being archived somewhere centralized
Precisely George S…
From Socialism: The Real History From Plato to the Present by William J. Federer
“Although this science ( mass psychology ) will be diligently studied , it will be rigidly confined to the ruling class …( elite ). The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated.”
Bertrand Russell – study this guy because the manipulators sure do.
” Full Spectrum Dominance ” doctrine , is not just on the battlefield.
Gee this from the guy Mehdi Hasan said is no too bright
Given the size and reach of Twitter worldwide, Twitter employees work only 4 hours – wouldn’t ‘no freedom of speech’ bots set up be doing that work on top of their human workers do? Wouldn’t it be that there’s more volume of such similar work those bots (of auto-bot farms) can accomplish within a specific time frame that the humans can’t?
So if Twitter management has overstated their numbers, expect lawsuits. They better hope this deal goes through.
Elon Musk is spreading misinformation like:
Big issues and the opposite of what he is saying is true.
He is helping Democrats impeach Biden and rebound stronger than ever,
Never put your hopes on men, only God can change this mess
Pray and repent, repent, repent.
Yesyesyesandyes
The tempest is coming.
The only thing, in regards to Twitter that matters, does Elon Musk believe in free speach, so far that seems to be a yes, not sure why some want to make it more than that.
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The only thing that ultimately matters, e.g. regarding twitter bots, is for advertising statistics and revenues.
Caution that this ultimately is a business decision and Elon Musk would be okay effectively controlling the entire global “town square”. Listen carefully to what he says. It’s not “anything goes” so long as it’s not obscenity or the equivalent of shouting “fire” in a crowded theater. It’s more like, well everyone should have a platform and if anything is to be regulated, it should be transparent.
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Yup. Guy may be brilliant even well-intentioned but his thinking is along narrow scientific, technical and financial lines. Not sure about his education otherwise.
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Could just be psyching the Democrats to dump Biden in the fall…Biden has gotten some things done, however, all disastrous..,.
Pence was a pillar of religion was he not…
He was REAL bad😉
I think it was EM intent all along to expose the bots/fake account and, possibly the only intent (and not to actually purchase it). Just my opinion but why else would he air this publicly if he actually wants to own this mess.
Leverage
Leverage to do what? Buy Twitter or another reason?
Leverage to: Purchase at a lower price. Then run it like a business and make big bucks.
Do you think there is big bucks in Twitter?
230 million users.
how can you NOT make money with this size?
Sigh….You need to edumificate yourself just a bit…..
Regitiger: My understanding was that EM has already floated the idea of probably needing to implement a user fee of around $5/mo – post-acquisition – to keep Twitter a ‘mostly’ ad-free environment. So, the old business model is going to need to change substantially to make Twitter profitable. And that was predicated on Twitter’s human user base as most-recently filed with the SEC for last fiscal year. So, I agree with SD and, I think, Genesis here that the business model is fundamentally broken and this may just be EM pulling down more of the curtains hiding reality.
Asking users to pay would be a good way to weed out the bots. If it pays, it stays.
Latest numbers say 50% are bots….
If he buys it he becomes responsible for any lawsuits.
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And/or destroy it and create his own.
ANYTHING THAT IS CENTRALIZED AND HUGE AND “DOES IT ALL” ULTIMATELY IS DANGEROUS. Think about it. Even IF Elon Musk were the most benificent, wise person on earth… a few years from now he could drop dead and then what would this be.
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next do the DATA Fusion Centers. the Dwarves.
I did a search for “examples of Twitter bot tweets” and here was an example:
“Twitter Bots and Climate Change Disinformation
Automated Twitter bots are also a great source of climate change disinformation that has been consistently successful in withdrawing attention from the serious consequences of global warming. In the weeks around Trump’s withdrawal from the Paris Climate Change Agreement, a quarter of the tweets posted are suspected to be from automated accounts.”
Here’s the link, but I’m only including it because I quoted from it (seemed bias and didn’t satisfactorily show what i was looking for) : https://www.followeraudit.com/blog/how-to-spot-twitter-bots/
of course not, writing about the deception doesnt get published or promoted.
only articles saying you and I suck are allowed.
I know patriot . win (formerly thedonald on reddit) posters have documented (via screenshots), numerous accounts tweeting the same messages– verbatim. Often the accounts would have blue checkmarks too. These have been posted periodically over the past several years.
I love the joy Elon expresses while asserting how ridiculous the claims by Twitter that 95% of its users are real.
He’s a very engaging guy.
The most alluring Asperger guy in the world!
Propaganda machine – shaping public impression via Bot Farms.
(simultaneously making the majority on it feel the minority or not listened to)
Love the workings of a brilliant mind. So much of what we see, hear and read has a paucity of substance or unique insight. Elon and Dr.Peterson are stunning to hear/watch/read.
Twitter is like our voter registration systems. FAKE. FAKE. FAKE.
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I listened to most… he loves alternate energy sources. He thinks it would be no big deal to take a “tiny” 100 x 100 mile piece of land somewhere in the United States and turn it into a mega-solar energy production facility. I see his point and that certainly would be preferable to this kind of thing all over the place, but I can see issues: the localization makes it vulnerable to sabotage and attack… it’s not such a tiny area from the standpoint of the environment and animals that live there and migrate across it… I dunno…
He’s such a futuristic global type thinker. Nnnnn… for good or for a nightmare.
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the 4thbranch should put surveillance devices in solar panels and then subsidize them to put on every roof.
same concept as the 4thbranch funding and building social media platforms.
this is wisdom.
but there is a flip side also.
electrification as an engineering solution is a very food argument.
in terms of short and medium returns? negative !
spoiler: there IS a financial breakpoint where non-fossil fuel energy market is sustainable. It’s when excess capacity is available to do the “other things” that fossil fuels are currently doing:
24/7 demand supply with few disruptions.
transmodal ( long range, long logotistics, long finanicial planning ) planning.
well protected from geo politiocal/regional conflicts, policies.. insulated.
what the US gasl oil industry needs is means to compete.
one very effective means to compete is to rescind all energy green deal policies and start letting the oil flow.
God Bless America
Where does the power come from when the Sun goes down?
Batteries can’t do it.
storage is the goal.
free energy collection and storage.
Look….this guy [Musk] is one of the richest persons on the planet because he is also one of the SMARTEST persons on the planet. And do you know what very smart people who are successful do? They HIRE the best and brightest to work for them.
Musk has some of the very best advisors helping him with this acquisition….and they know EXACTLY what they are doing WRT vetting the company for it’s intrinsic value. He probably KNEW that there was a lot of squirley stuff about Twitter’s operations and fiscal foundations…and bid high in order to hook them….knowing full well that he would force them to eventually come clean WRT the company’s internals etc.
My guess is that he will, in fact, ultimately acquire Twitter…but it will be at a price much lower than his initial bid.
Or his aim may be to just put them out of business by showing everyone that their business is BS.
Then Trump takes over with TruthSocial.
Frankly I’m a bit disappointed in the slow rollout of TS….
I think that’s because we only think about the polished successes we use now not how they were in the beginning. Remember to, all the tech that was available to FB and invented by FB along the way is not available to others trying to create a social platform. They have a monopoly on much of the tech they use to operate.
I do find it midly amusing so many people think Musk is flying by the seat of his pants on his latest “ploy” to expose the fraud that Twitter is.
The only way to do this is get a foot in the door(by getting board approval for the sale of Twitter). Trap those Twatter board numbskulls (ever check to see who is on this USD44 billion company board?) and upper Twatter management muppets, and get them to put in the terms of sale the red line number confirming the #of bots account for less than when it’s more likely 7x higher.
Head to litigation for a proper forensic discovery to a) reveal the truer(we will never get the true number) of fake accounts
b) purchase Twatter at a significantly lower price
Assuming A happens and B falls through, Twatter will have to be rebranded (good luck) and/ or will go through a series of endless lawsuits from shareholders/advertisers….
If you are interested in the Twitter bot issue, here’s a link-rich read from CognitiveCarbon’s Content at Substack. The writer claims the number of bots can be quantified by “using a number of simple to complex analytical and heuristic techniques” to determine “which accounts at Twitter were “real people” and which were not”:
https://cognitivecarbon.substack.com/p/about-those-twitter-bot-accounts?s=r
Sounded good to me, but I’m no expert!
Thank you for the link. That helped a lot!
The accounts I am most curious about are the ‘sock puppet’ accounts used to spread propaganda, but it is important to know how many dormant accounts, users who inadvertently created multiple accounts sure to infrequent use, and things like that.
Everyone permanently suspended vs the bots!
Gee if Elon Musk really was a fun loving guy this could be a stunt to actually wreck twitter without buying it via legal action and then he can move on to another social platform.
If the BOT problem is a bad as he thinks then there are two major legal issues that will create pop-corn time for all.
First, his legal team will have proven that the Financial Disclosures provided for the sale are fraudulent.
Second, if the First Point is true that means previous Corporate Financial Statements provided investors, from years past, are fraudulent.
So, potentially there are class action suits by investors, users and advertisers. Also, the SEC and FTC have to act as well due to the fraudulent Financial Statements.
The defendants would be clowns in the picture and the non-Government as well as Foreign and US Government Agencies who own the BOTS.
thats my thoughts too.
crush twitter, and make the 4thbranch rebuild something else
Billionaire Elon Musk said he plans to vote Republican in the upcoming election cycle after voting overwhelmingly for Democrats in the past. The Tesla & SpaceX CEO and founder made the remark on Monday while speaking via video link at a Miami tech conference where he discussed his views on Twitter and free speech.
what is the likelihood of bots owned by Twitter itself? just to puff themselves up?
thats their business model.
the bots are THEIRS.
I agree this is a distinct possibility. And, the Twitter-managed bots could likely be programmed to do various ‘things’ for various deep-pocketed clientele. Is this is truly where a sizeable %age of their reported revenues come from? Here’s how they record itin their SEC financial statements:
FY2020 K-1 showed $500 million in “data licensing and other” revenue (with no additional detail) and $3.2 billion in “ad revenue”.
of course the bots are Twitter’s
how else would they swarm on a favored tweet and get it “trending”?
how else would they swarm downvotes on something they don’t like – for the opposite outcome?
it’s the Twitter ‘operators’ that determine events on Twitter, from who gets trending to who gets banned / shadowbanned / etc
And, depending on how that affects advertisers’ revenues, this could be a major fraud case.
Great interview; lots of interesting insight and ideas.
Yes. I watched for the entire hour and 1/2. He is brilliant, and has a good sense of humor.
Thank you Sundance for posting this!
One of the parts of this EM video I liked, was his explanation of why he built his new factory in Texas, instead of CA.
So TRUE!
Thank you Sundance, for posting this.
Elon, Thiel, Jack, etc… read this while starting … they are enacting it with perfection.
Buy CNN too. Replace the fake news reporters.
No need for him to waste his time and energy on CNN. They have already imploded and are not worth the time of day.
Watching Musk I keep thinking: this guy is so whip smart he is probably thinking three or four moves ahead on Twitter. And obviously, by appearing on All-In he is putting pressure on the Twits to to come clean on the bots.
Elon Musk is so refreshingly open and I feel has a very altruistic side to him.
Elon took his mother to the MET Gala and started PayPal with his brother Kimball Musk.
Early on when Tesla was struggling Kimball helped Elon keep up with the car orders when Tesla was short staffed.
I loved when Elon Musk was asked what mistakes were made when they built their first car factory.
Musk replied “everything down to the paint was wrong.”
I can’t think of anyone that’s achieved what Elon Musk has that possesses such humility.
I bring up all these small antidotes regarding Elon Musk because the very fact that Musk expects to make mistakes as he invents and constructs such amazing things is why he is so successful.
Its also impressive that Musk remains close to his family which is typically an indication of stability.
Imagine working in a company where the CEO wants you to try different approaches and at the same time doesn’t expect the end result to be easy or ultimately successful.
We do learn so much by our failures but in practice here in the United States many brilliant minds have been stifled because there’s no patience and everything is about cost and time frames.
It is very easy to donate to charity but what Elon Musk is attempting to do is improve this country and the world.
Musk sees where this world is headed and is trying to do what he can to educate and warn the majority of what’s planned.
Musk understands how harmful censorship and propaganda is to the future of the world.
Twitter is a nice start because many may not understand his likely motives but at least Musk has their attention.
Brilliant – exposes and destroys Twitter without spending Billions!
Is it my computer being blurry or is mustache cut off in the middle and there is facial hair only on the ends at the corner of his mouth?
The real question, will he be called to testify in the Heard/Depp trial?
Elon Musk slams Biden: ‘The real president is whoever controls the teleprompter’
Musk also warned that if US ignores ‘obvious’ cause of inflation, it could end up like Venezuela
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/elon-musk-biden-real-president-teleprompter?intcmp=tw_fnc
Elon Musk on Project Veritas hidden camera Twitter expose – “Is this legit?”
Here’s the video:
Musk to Benny:
Yes is the answer -Project Veritas has a number of Twitter internal emails like this:
https://michaelsmithnews.typepad.com/.a/6a0177444b0c2e970d02942fab3064200c-800wi
Musk also lamented the decline of the state of California. He said the Golden State was once “the land of opportunity” but it has become the land of “taxes, overregulation, and litigation.” He said, “There’s got to be like a serious cleaning out of the pipes in California.”
He insisted that “there’s got to be an above zero percent chance of Republicans winning in California.”
Musk said last week that his acquisition of Twitter is in hold pending details about spam and fake accounts on the platform, yet he added that he is “still committed” to the purchase of the social media company.
The more Elon talks the less sense he makes. The dems controlled by unions and lawyers and the GOP by big business and religious?
That is such 1980’s political analysis it is laughable.
Also, the point of the twitter takeover is not current conditions but the changes Musk could force on the company.
Re: Tesla. They have the worst repair history of any car on the market. And, Tesla drivers drive like old women on the freeway.
What I like is when Musk condemns those who wont have kids “because the world is a terrible place”
He says take a look at history-it was way worse in the past.
He is right
He says we cant overpopulate the world and if we dont the world will die with a whimper while we are all in adult diapers!
Audit finds half of Joe Biden’s Twitter followers are fake
https://trib.al/iU8GpYv
When Elon talks about a recession and how the govt throws money at people who do nothing for their fellow human beings
He says we need to have an “economic enema”
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The Golden State is cooking its golden geese
I have worked with people like Elon in the past. They have vision and the engineering skills to make it happen. Back in the day they were called industrialists. We don’t have enough of them anymore. Nowadays we are stuck with way to many vulture capitalists.
Twitter is screwed. Elon is not a fool… he’s a liberal for sure but thoughtful
Twitter will be destroyed or he will rescue it from its own demise
He puts his money where his mouth is. You have to love it.
Musk is a moderate but only about one thing. Free speech. His description of who owns the Democrat party and Republican party are in part true but anyone who has seen what the Democrat party has become and still supports them either supports ending America and our Constitution or is totally misinformed. Although in his case I wonder if he’s just disinterested. There is no way I personally can change his mind set as far as Democrats go and of course why should there be trust in Republican politicians so let him think what he wants. I do believe him when he says he is for free speech so changing Twitter to a free speech platform would be a good thing for the country. I am not impressed with his other beliefs which seem to not include our Constitution which the Democrats in particular are violating non-stop.
The SEC won’t investigate a front for another three-letter agency that is Twitter (and Facebook, and Google).
Facebook is even worse…
Google is more into censorship (YT) and manipulation (Google search), but won’t shy away from false impressions and clicks either…
You cannot verify anything they’re telling you. How can you trust them?
They all are in business of manipulation and spreading propaganda.
They have been defrauding the advertisers for decades.
This is one big fraud perpetrated with full knowledge and consent of the U.S. government.
Big Tech should have been a big RICO case. This is organized crime!
That whole thing was worth listening to. Interesting man.
It appears Musk has them in his sights, finger on the trigger, slowed breathing, mind telling him, ‘easy now – don’t rush’.