I saw this last night and was actually a little taken back in the exchange. For some unknown reason (though I have suspicions), instead of Alex Berenson using his time on Fox News to confront the malicious and fraudulent manipulation of medical science, he decided to attack the credibility of Dr. Robert Malone.
There could be nefarious motives for this; however, the Occam’s Razor perspective is simply that Alex Berenson carries a thin-skinned trait of social awkwardness and is unaware how his engagements with people can be off-putting. You decide. WATCH:
Dr. Robert Malone expanded on his opinion of Berenson via Substack:
“Unprofessional, rude and an arsehole to boot. But beyond that, I think we can all assume CONTROLLED OPPOSITION.”
Followed both Malone and Berenson over the past year. If we have learned anything self interest is always at play in some form. Both have provided a pathway to truth but to insult from the outset is very strange – it will be interesting to watch this play out over the next week. Berenson is a liberal and has the great Rush microphone via Buck and Clay… Hmmm. Suspicious cat, SD?
Berenson is a NY Leftist, why is this any surprise? He thinks Biden won. The election was not stolen. There is no evidence of that. Ex-NY Times employee.
Agreed. Berenson has acquired a serious case of left wing communism disease.
But, Malone seems to have a lot of class. I’ll be paying him some more attention.
You should have been listening to him, and MANY others, months ago.
Better late than never, I’d say!
Agreed. But Malone’s super fame of late has been going to his head and he needs to be a little more careful. That said, he’s one of the world leaders of the Resistance so a little bit of fire is to be expected. He doesn’t want to become a major target like Trump though because his message will get lost in all the media-driven noise.
I had subscribed to Berenson’s Substack but was getting fed up with the volume of posts, many of them self-promoting. That interchange was it for me.
No wonder our side loses so often. Maybe you would do better at the dnc… where you probably have been in the past.
Our Side,,,,,,Your Side,,,,,you are ot on mine, or America’s…Malone is doing tremendous work to stop this murderous project by the deep state.
The opposition guest to Dr. Malone, made it clear he was not able, nor capable of entering into an intelligent dialogue regarding Covid, ivermectin, or any other details specific to any part of this pandemic. The point of 270 vs 16,000 signatories was the best point of all, but the pain and anguish on Alex Berenson’s face was present before the dialogue even started.
It appears Berenson entered a gun fight only armed with brass buckles, he did not fair well.
More proof of how facts end any dialogue with a liberal, just like that.
I suspect Berenson thought he was the Top Dog in busting covid myths and is jealous of this Johnny Come Lately who has stolen his thunder and is now already going for the jugular in terms of tackling the Great Reset / Deep State geopolitical usages that the covid19 pandemic fear-fest has been serving. Berenson tends to stay in the lane of covid facts and figures, most of which are essentially saying the same thing (that it isn’t as bad as it’s hyped and the mitigation methods used are ineffective overkill) but he stays away from the larger socio-political ramifications essentially shying away from admitting that this is a new type of war and writing about it that way.
I like how Dr. Malone mentioned Utter Pradesh and their success with Ivermectin.
I receive Berenson’s updates via email. On Jan 6, he sent out the longest one to date, not having anything to do with vaccines but rather June 6, 2021, calling them “a couple of thousand idiots” “disgusting and dangerous.” Going on he called “election fraud, which seemed then and now to be a fantasy.” I read him for the facts that he links to, not to his opinions. And I’ve got the Ivermectin to prove it.
As for Mass Formation Psychosis, read the vaunted ‘The Nazi Doctors’. That’s what the 504 pages is all about. The term is immaterial which is why the Left including Berenson focuses on it. In the book, the author, a psychiatrist, calls it ‘doubling’ or ‘healing-killing’, a ‘historical collective illness’, ‘failed regeneration’, ‘the threatened community’, etc, etc.
If one reads Mattias Desmet, Mass Formation is not a psychosis, it is a form of hypnotism (yes, Scott Adams is stupid).
Mass Formation is not in the DSM, and has been identified as far back as Socrates being forced to drink the hemlock and Our Lord’s crucifixion.
Quite an interesting subject. Read Danish researcher Mattias Desmet for more info.
Did you really mean to say Scott Adams is stupid??? Makes me wonder about you.
He’s Belgian. And sometimes he does use the term psychosis but generally he sticks to ‘mass formation’ because that’s really what he’s talking about, a mass (i.e. crowd) phenomenon. There are probably several populations in that sort of state now. For example both Patriots and Progressives feel their opponents are about to crash our entire civilization as we know it and pretty much all news they consume confirms this pushing them further and further into ‘free-floating anxiety’ on top of heightened isolation from the break-down of society. So now Patriots focus on Bannon and Trump willing them to lead them out of this apocalypse and Progressives focus on other leaders who are mainly demonizing Patriots so that they live in constant fear of returning to some sort of sexist, racist, patriarchal Dark Age which will enslave them all. In other words, both sides feel that if they don’t vanquish the other that they will end up as slaves. Both sides to a certain degree have been hypnotized and the general atmosphere of isolation and anxiety caused by both the covid19 responses and the already existing political fracturing (engineered of course) makes them vulnerable to mass formation.
If we get major economic dysfunction along with war in the next few months the US population will be extremely vulnerable to being led by the nose into a Great Reset. Once people face unemployment and starvation they are much more open to any solution offered that will end that uncertainty.
So Desmet has a good point. But there is a lot more than covid19 stuff going on. It’s just the main tactic in the current asymmetrically waged world war.
Yes Desmet sticks to “mass formation” (not psychosis) because he is referring to the formation of a mass of people.
It is a form of hypnosis but is different to the familiar one. In the form we already knew, the hypnotiser is not hypnotised and is aware of that. In mass formation, the hypnotisers (the leaders eg the political leaders and health authorities) are also hypnotised but are not aware of that.
I disagree that both sides are hypnotised. The questioning types lead relatively connected and happy lives IMHO and because they lack the anxiety required for mass formation, they are not susceptible to it.
Some Patriots, but not many, view Trump as The Man to lead them out. We view Trump as one of two or three who are able to confound the deepstaters, and their political allies. We are considerably more intelligent, and fact centered than you presume. Of course, you could be trolling too,,,,,I cannot definitively determine…but it is a reasonable question.
By ‘trolling’ do you mean voicing opinions that your ‘we’ may not agree with? Obviously, those supporting Trump which number more than seventy million, are not a monolithic same-thinking group. But I wasn’t even thinking about Trump or his supporters, rather those with a generally conservative (for lack of a better word) view. Do you not think that many in that even larger group feel that their whole world is under threat, that the Republic is about to fall 0r (as I think) it already fell in 2020 having been largely a fig leaf ‘Reality TV Republic’ or RINO (Republic In Name Only) for decades, perhaps since JFK’s public assassination? Do you not think that with the multiple blows administered by Deep State Intelligence hobbling of the Presidency, mainstream Media demonization of an elected President, globalist engineered Plandemic, widespread riots calling for defunding of police and dismantling of a state that favors evil white people, a blatantly stolen election revealing that the Courts can no longer be counted on AT ALL for equality in Law, the false flag of 1/6 still being used to this day to disqualify not only Trump from running but also to banish all supporters from polite society…. do you not think this may have engendered many of the prerequisites that Desmet lays out as necessary for mass formation?
Do you not think that the whole notion of demonizing all progressives in order to ‘take our country back’ by voting in federal elections which we now know (or should) is a COMPLETE waste of time and effort is a sign of group insanity?
Do you think that only trolls would have such opinions?
This opinion may be incorrect but it most certainly is not unreasonable or unfounded. The world has gone mad this past two years and America is one of the most insane and dysfunctional countries there are right now (because it is the one most under attack by this globally waged asymmetric war).
The irony is that a Great Reset is indeed needed. The Old Normal that many MAGA voters want was so corrupt that it gave us this Current Dystopia promising a Great Reset or New Normal. Surely going back to the Old Normal or any notion of ‘making America great again’ needs to be reconsidered? Or is that trolling too?
Maybe you like Trump. I certainly did. But is it heresy or something to think that maybe he was TOTALLY outplayed when he was in the WH and there is no evidence to suggest that he even begins to understand that? Or even if he understands in some general way, does he have any idea how to do it different next time? Is this a big secret or something? Another Q-Anon like plan that we all will never know about but take on faith that he and his gang will somehow take down the Deep State this time? Do we really still believe that by electing people to go to Washington DC that we can ‘take our country back?’ Really?
Sorry, but although I sincerely hope that could be the case and I hope that Bannon’s tactics and strategies succeed, I have no evidence to back that up with. At this point I assume that the Republic has already fallen but most people either cannot see it or are in denial and until I see evidence to the contrary (just one State changing election procedure laws or decertifying the 2020 results might be a start but also far from enough to convince me – and of course not one of those things has happened) I will maintain that view.
Even if many consider it ‘trolling’ to express it out loud. And I do so because I believe it helpful for more of us to consider these possibilities rather than just going ahead and doing the same thing again and again whilst expecting a different result.
Yes, many of those questions are legitimate and are not trolling.
The past two or six years have proven that governments govern for the detriment of the people. The Old Normal is definitely not where we want to go. We need an Other New Normal.
Mattius Desmet is a late arriving, lightweight to the revelation of the forces and names behind cov2.
This man, David Icke, has been on that and related subjects for many years and his revelations are easy to understand, coherent and broad based. In this interview, David Icke is joined by Dr. Tom Cowan and Dr. Andrew Kaufman both of whom express beliefs which are, for the most part, in line with posters on this website.
https://davidicke.com/2021/12/08/david-icke-dr-tom-cowan-dr-andrew-kaufman-true-healing-conference-2021/
I keep loves to hear himself bloviate, and thinks the world is run by lizard people.
David Icke’s voice is not heard in mainstream professional milieus. What is happening with people like Dr Malone and McCollough et alia is that these are well established, highly respected professionals with experience in the relevant fields. Dr. Malone for example works to this day with DoD on infectious diseases. David Icke is a fringe internet pundit who carries no weight in such circles; indeed most people therein have never heard of him and never will. I am not saying anything against Icke – though I haven’t personally listened to him in over 20 years – but you are comparing apples to oranges.
So, you like leftists at the Faux.
Please to put your ethereal comment down to my proletariat level of comprehension. 🤷🏻♀️
Canceled my paid Alex Berenson SubStack subscription. Reason: uncalled for ambush of Dr. Malone.
Nicely and accurately phrased.
Well said.
Agreed. It seemed childish and narcissistic
There is much criminality in the “science” field, starting in university, continuing through grad and PhD degrees, and becoming even worse through the professions of “medical” and “scientific” “research.”
The PTB have been after Dr Malone for decades. Dr Malone has not played the game well throughout his professional life (Dr Malone has ehtics, poor man).
The PTB started gunning for Dr Malone in the 1990s when a campaign was begun for the Nobel for work done by others based on Dr Malone’s patented (self-admitted serendipitous) discoveries. Yes, the Nobel is rigged as well, just like the Academy Awards for movies.
Patrick Bet David (Valuetainment) interviewed Dr Malone last week, and Bet David, by being confrontational and dogged, drew out the sordid details of how “Science” really works in this world.
It leaves one wanting a shower after.
When Mr Fauci says he is “Science,” believe him. After listening to Dr Malone & Bet David, you will agree.
When they tell you who they are, believe them.
Dr Robert Malone on Valuetainment
2:21:24
https://rumble.com/vs44ry-dr-robert-malone-on-valuetainment.html
https://rumble.com/embed/vphyo2/?pub=4
“ Yes, the Nobel is rigged as well”… I think awarding the prize to Obama confirmed your assertion.
Dr. Robert Gallo, Fauci’ buddy, would do ANYTHING for the Nobel…Like stealing credit for discoveries made by the hard work, of those in his lad (think, Frank Ruscetti, etc al), Luc Montagnier (the man who actually discovered HIV), ad nauseum.
Even Judy Mikovits, in her incessant web of lies, knew what an ambitious and odious man he was and is.
Have you read this, presumably by his wife? It looks real enough, to me.
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/history-how-mrna-vaccines-were-discovered-jill-glasspool-malone-phd
Thoughts if you care to.
To my knowledge, Fox has yet to mention anything at all regarding election integrity. Even the ‘great’ Tucker Carlson and Dan Bongino will not utter it. Just strategic silence like the rest of the legacy and social media. Someone has gotten to them. Not sure if it is money, blackmail, or threats to their family but it certainly appears to be the case. Curiously they cover the FBI scandal, Ukraine, and Covid but will not touch election fraud.
Ever not talked about something to avoid the horrendous results?
If Not, your Not Smart.
This man has it down!
PRESIDENT OF GHANA Nana Addo Dankwa Akufo-Addo tells the entire country about the SATANIC NWO plan
https://www.bitchute.com/video/KYSXn6cYPWDN/
what a prayer!!! Amen Amen and Amen
Dr. Robert Malone is spot on. He is not alone. Thousands and thousands of highly respected and accomplished scientists and medical professionals all over the world are speaking out against the non-efficacy and dangers of this “vaccine”. Those who have accepted this vaccine wihtout doing the research into the risks surrounding it will pay a price in health issues going forward. I personally know four or five people who have suffered greatly as a result of this vaccine. This now includes one family member. Worse yet, those who have unwittingly accepted the vaccine propaganda are enablers in the insane push for the criminal vaccination of children. It’s sickening! By the way, Donald Trump is right in the middle of this vaccine fear and hysteria with his continuing recommendation for mass vaccination. This position is not supportable and he should be called out on it right to his face.
100% Truth!!
He has changed his position,,,,which was most likely politically based, as he early on spoke HCQ, if you can remember.
He still believes in HCQ , Ivermectin and Famotidine as therapeutics to fight the covid virus.
Dayum, Dr. Malone is the best. Clean up on aisle Fox. I will watch Malone anywhere. Fox still makes me cringe.
malone fans may or may not like this piece which appears to me to have been written by his wife.
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/history-how-mrna-vaccines-were-discovered-jill-glasspool-malone-phd
I’m not vouching for it; it just showed up on a search – so, don’t blame me!
Very interesting post. Thanks for sharing.
Mass formation psychosis✔️Verified (Call it what you will)
“(Albert) Speer was moved to the point of rapture, felt himself to be “drunk” or in an altered state of consciousness, ….. He was describing a classical experience of transcendence, an ecstatic state of feeling outside oneself and swept up by a larger force that could connect or reconnect one with ultimate spiritual principles. From that day on, he belonged to Hitler and came to share his sphere of omnipotence and power, so that he could describe the whole Nazi era as “like a dream.” He remained confused by the power Hitler held over him, dating back from that first speech.
Speer was referring to the almost continuous sense of transcendence he and other Germans experienced during the Nazi era. This quality of transcendence associated with the regime could help one avoid awareness of one’s corrupt and self-serving behavior, as was surely the case with Speer and others.
‘The Nazi Doctors’, Lifton, 1980, pg 474-5
Yes, but Hanlon’s razor died in 2020 so I’m assuming evil on the part of Berenson.
Berenson Spoke from Ignorance. He was properly corrected, and kindly, by Dr. Malone.
Will not waste my time finding out what Berenson has to say any longer.
I left a comment/question after a data analysis Berenson published on his Substack. It was very sincere and respectful question about whether an anomaly he pointed out could be partly explained by including another variable. He deleted my question, so that made me say “hmmm…”
The scientists I like are at Doctors For Covid Ethics, a European group. This link is an interview with a Dr. Michael Palmer and Catherine Austin Fitts, an American Investment Banker. Dr. Palmer states that Malone was involved in the first mRNA technology, but he wouldn’t consider ‘new iechnology’ an appropriate description because it never worked. He says that scientists messed around with the mRNA vaxs during the 90’s and gave up on it. They were surprised when it was used for the vaccine for covid and knew in the beginning we were being fed bullshit. Malone has not given them any helpful info in all of this. He should have been speaking out against the vax from the beginning.
They also believe we are under a global coup by the central bankers. Their end objective is to get the passport. Money is to be made digital and with that card, they can track us, monitor us, and control us by shutting off our money when we do not comply to whatever. There is lots on that site, lots of educational stuff.
https://doctors4covidethics.org/on-mrna-vaccine-toxicity-and-the-political-agenda-behind-vaccine-passports/
Dr. Malone, in his original interview with Bret Weinstein, spoke several times about his many years in the bioethics of pharma. He seemed very, very devoted to it, from a moral point of view. I was impressed.
I can imagine, with that history, that he was a thorn in the side of MANY regulatory and pharma entities.
In fact, I may go back as rewatch that show. It’s on Odysee now.
When everything becomes political, truth takes a back seat to petty bickering.
https://rumble.com/embed/vq1i2v/?pub=4
Malon owned patents that expired. He did research on rats and gave up on the technology. and they completely changed it and went a new technology for the vaccines He isn’t the sole creator, but his wife said he was unbelievably pissed he didn’t get credit for the mRNA tech.
Alex is certainly not an A hole. Malone as well as a host of other scientists have developed this tech over several decades. He could have phrased things differently. The point about disagreement, discussion and censorship, however, was spot on.