Well, butter my buns and call me a biscuit… if this ain’t the biggest revealing tell in years.
Apparently Big Tech and big propaganda media, Reuters and the Associated Press, have joined together to refute the concept of “Mass Formation Psychosis”, and pushed their collective narrative into the narrative engineering system:
The Associated Press – SEE HERE and Reuters – SEE HERE, quickly rush to the “fact check” typeset to stop people from recognizing what is most likely the cause of their own psychosis. In a world where things are no longer shocking, this is, well, a little shocking, in a weird and seemingly Orwellian kind of way.
Yes Alice, the same “experts” and media who are credibly accused of creating/enabling the mass formation psychosis would like to assure us that no such reality exists. This is almost too funny.
(AP) – […] “The concept has no academic credibility,” Stephen Reicher, a social psychology professor at the University of St Andrews in the U.K., wrote in an email to The Associated Press. The term also does not appear in the American Psychological Association’s Dictionary of Psychology.
“Psychosis” is a term that refers to conditions that involve some disconnect from reality. According to a National Institutes of Health estimate, about 3% of people experience some form of psychosis at some time in their lives.
[…] The description of “mass formation psychosis” offered by Malone resembles discredited concepts, such as “mob mentality” and “group mind,” according to John Drury, a social psychologist at the University of Sussex in the U.K. who studies collective behavior. The ideas suggest that “when people form part of a psychological crowd they lose their identities and their self-control; they become suggestible, and primitive instinctive impulses predominate,” he said in an email.
That notion has been discredited by decades of research on crowd behavior, Drury said. “No respectable psychologist agrees with these ideas now,” he said.
Multiple experts told the AP that while there is evidence that groups can shape or influence one’s behaviors — and that people can and do believe falsehoods that are put forward by the leader of a group — those concepts do not involve the masses experiencing “psychosis” or “hypnosis.” (read more)
Reuters offers this simultaneous rebuttal:
(Reuters) – “Mass formation psychosis” is not an academic term recognized in the field of psychology, nor is there evidence of any such phenomenon occurring during the COVID-19 pandemic, multiple experts in crowd psychology have told Reuters.
[…] There is no evidence to suggest a “mass formation psychosis” has occurred during the pandemic, experts told Reuters. The term itself is not recognised among academics, and modern research into crowd psychology has shown that crowds do not behave in mindless or non-individualistic ways. (more)
Once a collective group creates an alternate reality of itself, in this case a totalitarian reality based on government needing to create an irrational illusion of fear that becomes part of the accepted national identity, how can anyone call attention to the outcomes without finding themselves in front of the board of inquisition who organizes the collective?
Put another way… if the pod under your bed malfunctioned, but the pods under all the other beds in the city worked, what happens when you awaken and realize you are not one of them, but you must engage in the world of them while looking for others -like yourself- whose pods hopefully malfunctioned? That is the current challenge for anyone trying to communicate on contrary evidence and yet avoid the ire from the collective board of COVID compliance who have successfully brainwashed the audience.
As a rather prescient Lewis Carroll shared so brilliantly in his novel of Alice, Through The Looking Glass:
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn’t. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn’t be. And what it wouldn’t be, it would. You see?”
So here we are.
Cheers !
How can you trust a medical system that has to redefine what a vaccine is? It s not to prevent but mitigate. A medical system that says its right and just to castrate and drug teenagers who are confused about their gender instead of giving them the help they need. A medical system that lies with every statement it makes. Guess what they can t stop the theory of MFP now it s like toothpaste out of the tube
I forgot murdering babies in the womb as medical treatments
The fact they had to come out with this indicates to me the percentage thinking of “mass formation psychosis” is a tad more than the current WH occupants poll numbers.
James C. Smith. Look him up on LinkedIn.
Malone’s theory is, simply, just that…a theory. I look forward to his research and the further exploration. Now, Reuters and AP found someone with a dissenting theory. Have at it, boys! That’s how “SCIENCE” works! Which of you is correct? Well, we don’t know yet, perhaps some day we will.
The problem here is that someone is trying to control a narrative.
What we’re seeing is a warped version of the “scientific method”. Theories are posited and, depending on the political narrative, they have to be celebrated or “debunked”. If you disagree with MY theory you’re a “denier” and, since my theory is supported by the political party in charge, you’re DANGEROUS. See how that works?
Think “Climate Science”, one either believes in anthropomorphic climate change or one is a “denier” suitable for immediate eradication. You’re dangerous. Unfortunately, it’s always the usual suspects who are out there “fact checking” and thereby taking sides. The problem is the “fact checkers” always have a political motive supporting the political powers of the times.
There in lies the fallacy of the news groups; they’re politically choosing sides with no scientific background to base their opinion.
LET SCIENCE RING!
They are doing this because they know they are losing the argument.
Believe me, I’m not going off topic . . .
Since the election was stolen, I’ve asked a simple, two-part question of those who believe Biden won 81M votes:
Precisely when did you come to believe that and why?
I’ve never received an answer. To a one, they run into the woods. For good reason, demanding repetition of the “no evidence” loyalty oath is humiliating to a degree, directly a function of intelligence and self-respect.
As I’ve been saying, the claim that we’re a “50-50 divided country” is a cruel lie. The reason the American Project has been so successful is because with few historical exceptions The Pareto Principle (80/20) has reigned in favor of our endurance as a great constitutional republic.
Suffice it to say, the American people are blessed with common sense. As a free people, we intuitively reject those who engage force, including censorship, rather than persuasion.
In the case of “Trump Must Go!,” there is no evidence that the anti-Trump alignment — anyone who was anybody, domestic and foreign — cared a whit about persuading anyone toward their objective. Their emanations were all intended as pretext for the steal. I doubt any of us here wasted much time trying to convince people of something that they professed to believe because they wanted Trump gone by any means necessary.
I get that. The “there’s no evidence” mantra was and remains fit for purpose for those who aren’t susceptible to it when it comes to Trump and the stolen election.
But anything associated with the Covid madness is a horse of a different color. Malone is so monumental a problem making the “no evidence” schtick a psychosis inducing all by himself. After all, what kind of an idiot is still on team Fauci et. al.; and if you’re not an idiot, and most of these shouters are not, when do you decide that you’re sick of being cannon fodder for the fantasy Stalinists?
Well stated, MLK. It’s all interconnected.
It’s a house of cards or a stack of domino’s ready to fall apart at the slightest puff of wind. They MUST insist that Biden won even though we know he didn’t. Just as they MUST insist that masks work even though we know they don’t.
They MUST insist that Ivermectin, HCQ and Budesonide don’t work so they can push the “vaccine”, which, by the way, is not a vaccine.
Supporting this entire insanity of claiming things are what they aren’t and claiming things aren’t what they are, is the interview Greg Hunter did with Dr. Pierre Kory. (linked above, but again here)
https://usawatchdog.com/huge-number-of-vax-deaths-its-getting-worse-dr-pierre-kory/
Good points, Joyce
The coup plotters strategy involved executing a simple “catch22” trap that said “the election has been certified, that’s it, noting more to see.”
They thought they had the winning hand ….. they had the media, the congress, the judiciary and their ace in the hole was penceeeeeee from the executive branch.
If you study the “catch-22” trap, it is based on multiple rules that block each other making any movement impossible. However, there are ways to defeat any “catch 22” trap.
Skipping to the 2021 “Decisive Battle”, President Trump upended the coup plotters “catch-22” trap by “not conceding” and keeping his 100,000,000+ army of supporters intact.
At the same time, he pivoted away from the fed-centric unconstitutional arena and moved his forces into the local / state entities which are Constitutionally more powerful than the smaller fed-centric coup plotter unconstitutional arena.
What the commie coup plotters missed ……… after all they aren’t geniuses ……..just evil doers ……… they missed President Trump playing the “trump” card.
“Let’s go Brandon!”
“The Decisive Battle”
https://tinkzorg.wordpress.com/2021/11/02/2740/
Trump introduced the vaccine to Americans. Doesn’t matter if he says mandate or not Biden said he wouldn’t either yet here we are.
People need to wake up, they are all in on it.
I just remind people that the only “proof” they have that Biden won is that the Government told them so, and the Government Media repeated it.
No American Citizen has been permitted to fully audit the results of the 2020 election. All attempts to audit the results have been met with a wall of lawsuits and hostile courts declaring that American Citizens have “no standing” in a Court to review the results of the election.
That is, as the saying goes, “all I need to know”.
With respect, I disagree. The leftwing media, on TV and in newspapers, declared Biden the winner. Well before states certified electors or Congresss counted electoral college votes.
The leftwing media used its models to make the projections. As we have learned, with global warming models and covid models (neither are science, but merely statistics manipulation), used by the left are incredibly unreliable.
The old saying, “figures don’t lie, but liars sure do figure.”
Go back to all the media corrections on Youtube at the time around the November elections.
Read all the disclaimers on EVERY. SINGLE. VIDEO criticizing what had occurred with the
steal.
Then, notice that every time Trump or one of his supporters uttered anything questioning
what had went on every single “journalist” called him a liar, or said “without evidence”.
Pull up some examples of this phenomenon for anyone that’s sitting on a fence regarding
the elections and what was pulled. For good measure, take them back for any videos on
prior, highly contested elections ( Bush 2). And ask them to find any similar type of verbage
from “journalists”, or any type of disclaimers regarding “Stringent measures are being taken
to assure the oucome of the election”.
The bullshit happened in advance of the elections. They already had all the mechanisms in
place to shout down any and all opposition. Something like this had never occurred before
with the possible exception of “truthers” being maligned prior to the Lightbringer being
installed.
Very interesting take, YTG. Not many people saw it and nobody thought anything about it – but the day after the election Joy Reid was in a segment with Rachel Maddow and Rachel kept going on and on about how hard it was on election night ‘not’ to call the election. Rachel discussed how they prepared for it, how they had numerous guests talking with them about how it was going to happen etc., and then Rachel admits how it was just so much harder to do than anything she could have imagined. Yes, it was all planned out in advance.
The CIA controlled mockingbird media is 100% evil; every one of them are traitors and should be dealt with as such.
I missed that but never watch her show although Steve Bannon says over and over that she telegraphs everything. This is very interesting, but yet, no proof…
Actually, I take that back, I thoroughly enjoyed watching her on election night 2016;)
I think you are on to something. Here is my research as to what I think you are saying.
Steve Bannon was on top of this and explains it here (10:00) where Marc Elias and Bob Bower telegraphed via the Transition Integrity Project, told us how they were going to steal the election, that Trump would look like the winner but days later would lose after the “fake” votes were counted:
https://rumble.com/vrzon9-navarro-spars-with-msnbc-host-over-jan.6.html
Bernie Sanders said this on Fallon which caught the attention of Jovan Pulitzer and motivated him to get involved with the audits:
https://ar-ar.facebook.com/JovanHuttonPulitzer/videos/october-23-2020-bernie-sanders-on-jimmy-fallon-bernieknew-theyallknew/742100886739552/
Bannon exclaimed this on The Circus prior to the election:
https://rumble.com/vrzp9r-bannon-were-going-to-get-to-the-bottom-of-all-of-it-were-relentless.html
The Dems were so proud of themselves that they bragged about it in TIME magazine:
https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/
I would only say it is important not to confuse the MSM with the government; they are one in the same.
All computer models are inherently open to manipulation.
A computer program is no more than the instructions written by the programmer. All models are simplifications of the real-world thing they are modelling, that’s why they are called merely “models”. The programmer chooses the simplifying assumptions. A competent programmer will choose assumptions that make the model reasonably close to reality. A bad-faith programmer can choose any assumptions to produce any desired result.
It’s the modern tech version of “Choosing appropriate false premises, I can produce the valid logic for any unsound conclusion you desire.”
That is the perfect summary of the 2020 election.
There certainly are a significant number of psychotics on the left and more than a few on the right. But there are also a very large number of sane cynical bad actors on the left that are using any means necessary to gain and hold power. The idiots and the deluded can be woken out of their spells if presented with enough counter evidence or popular opinion changes but the hard core that is motivated by either anti-white racism or money, the two strongest motivational forces known to man. These are the people that have seized the levers of power, not the ninnies that are afraid of their own shadows.
I totally agree and that is the solution as explained by Desmet Mattias. Example: China or North Korea, whose people are prevented from hearing anything but the approved narrative so only believe what they are told. Mao did the same thing. It is bizarre to think that that is exactly what is being attempted here in the United States of America and even more bizarre is that some don’t question it or even worse, condone this censorship. Desmet explains that the only way to get people out of their hypnotic state is to gently, non-confrontationally, keep telling the truth. I decided after reading the bullying FB comments being made towards patients in the very hospital that I worked in for 25 years, patients being berated when someone tried to set up a “Go Fund Me” account because this patient was “unvaxxed,” that I needed to do something. This behavior would never have been tolerated if you substituted the word “jew” or “black” but here it was on my local newspaper and hospital’s FB page. The articles they posted seemed to invite these attacks. I decided I didn’t care what any of my “vaccinated” friends or family or co-workers thought and started countering these comments with facts and called and end to this bullying. I started to notice more and more begin to do the same where before, the negativity seemed to be accepted by one and all. Desmet confirmed my decision as well as explained what I was witnessing here. He said it will not be easy though as being on the “team,” so to speak, gives many a sense of purpose, a social bond and an explanation for their “free floating” i.e.,not connected to a specific reason, anxiety.
Nice work, but let me sum it up more succinctly: I quote Gobbells
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie.”
And Hitler wrote about it in Mein Kampf .
What hilarious is that if you hit Wiki, “Big Lie” those asshats use Trump as another example.
Make of THAT what you will.
An explanation of the Big Lie, by repeating a Big Lie, the ’20 election was all perfectly legal.
But, of course, the fact checkers say this isn’t true. Just ask 6 million Jews.
Science, Fact Checkers, Consensus of Experts, Democratic, Democracy – All of those words are bullshit with hijacked meaning to manipulate the Sheep
I really mean it — three, yes just three ineluctable truths, combined as condition precedent, explain where this great nation is at the moment:
1) Trump won in a monumental landslide despite all of their malefactions
2)Trump refused to concede
3) Biden et. al. have governed disastrously
Something akin to The Law of Conservation of Energy from physics applies in politics too. All of the negative energy they have forced into our national life cannot be made to disappear. It can only be converted to another form. With each passing day, more Americans are coming around. MAGA was 75-90M at the end of 2020. What do you think it is now in the broadest sense of the term and growing every day?
Whatever they intended, the anti-Trump/anti-MAGA alignment has bought themselves an internal struggle over whether to completely abandon Consent of the Governed or adapt to survive and win free and fair elections another day.
They do have an immediate salve that is obvious to me at least. They know they have failed to make Trump the dirty dog. Period. Their best move at this point would be to sail Pelosi’s ship and give her the Cuomo treatment, even if initially behind the curtain as a threat. That would soon be followed by the same by McConnell. That would sufficiently turn the page to protect them from Speaker Trump in the next Congress and, with or without him, a Republican majority giving it to the worst of the worst in the Democrat minority good and hard.
“Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds”.
Precisely.
carl sagan has a great quote: extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
updated, Karl Savant: Extraordinary criminal conspiracies require extraordinary criminals
extraordinary lies, need extranonordinary counter lies. the pendulim of sheep minds arent swung by facts always.
This again goes to prove there is a “them” behind all of this and they have an Agenda, a Satanic Agenda
Meanwhile, there are legitimate “pod free” real doctors and scientists who are giving facts; not the nonsense of “everything would be what it isn’t” from Dr. Robert Malone to Dr. Pierre Kory:
https://usawatchdog.com/huge-number-of-vax-deaths-its-getting-worse-dr-pierre-kory/
And that is why I have decided, from now on, to answer anyone who asks or demands to know why I am not jabbed, to simply say, “I got several second opinions from internationally known specialists and learned that the dope is not right for me.” Inadequately tested, obviously ineffective and manifestly risky.
That response reminds the numbskulls of the concept of ‘informed consent,’ which all of them certainly demanded before mass formation psychosis.
In an era where the corruption of the medical professions has been revealed, doctors like Malone, Kory, McCullough, Gold and so many others have become my docs regarding COVID, including some who have prescribed therapeutics in case we need it.
Are we not being pushed into telemedicine, virtual visits by the medical establishment. Well, we are using it.
Love your reply. Here is more info on what informed consent should look like for these experimental injections by the very attorney who is fighting for the cause, Tom Rentz.
https://vladtepesblog.com/2021/07/11/attorney-tom-renz-testimony-on-informed-consent-for-the-mrna-shots-given-for-covid19/
Thanks for the link. Renz described a very appropriate informed consent for these drugs.
As a native Ohioan who has lived outside the state for decades and as someone who has attended hearings on healthcare legislation in the Ohio Senate long ago, I was keen to learn the outcome of the proposed legislation to protect state citizens from discrimination based upon their personal treatment/injection choices.
Did the democrat(rino) governor, Mike DeWine, veto the bill?
OMG! I thought of you immediately when I listened to this as suggested by another commentator on this thread. To counter attack the authoritarian narrative, use “humor and ridicule!” This explanation, although it uses alot of psychological words that may add to the hysteria and why Desmet doesn’t like the term “psychosis,” explains his theory quite well.
They are going full Oz….the Scarecrow didn’t need a brain, he just needed a diploma….the lion didn’t need courage….he just needed a medal….well, we don’t need an official “diagnosis” in the DSM #23 or whatever it’s up to…. We just need to open our eyes to see what is happening around us…..
I see lots of irrational behavior….what do you see?
DSM 23? Body dysmorphic disorder
Sorry – I posted the link to Greg Hunter’s website for the interview with Dr. Pierre Kory (in which Dr. Kory is expounding on the same circle of lies that Sundance wrote so eloquently about above), but the interview itself is also on Rumble:
https://rumble.com/vs7c9i-huge-number-of-vax-deaths-and-its-getting-worse-dr.-pierre-kory.html
Retired Magistrate here: My husband and I were talking the other day about how just about everyone we know has bought into the narrative that everyone who gets covid will die; only the government can save you and individual liberties don’t matter when there is a pandemic. We looked at each other and said “maybe we are the ones that are wrong” and then…nope we might be on an island but it is an island that is based on research, common sense and trust in our LORD and SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST.
Does that mean that we don’t prepare, of course not. I have on hand on the protocols that I have read about that work; i.e., Ivermectin, Dr. Zelenko’s Z Pack, Hydro coming in from India (should be here next week) Zicam, Nasal Spray and other items. The most important is an oxygen meter. As long as our levels are where they should be, we are good. We both had covid in January 2020 before anybody really knew what is was. Talked to our family physician about it and she agreed. No, I don’t want to take an antibody test and be on record with the State of Ohio: nope, no way.
Well, we are off to our small country church to worship JESUS with fellow believers. Everyone enjoy the day that the LORD has made.
I Keep wondering if I am wrong myself. Am I misinterpreting what I am seeing? Then I get scared, confused and I PRAY for clarity and calmness. Every time, the fear goes away. I know we are right.
Amen amen
Marcia – Mrs. Boss and I are off the grid too. No reporting to the state OR insurance companies, or our primary care doctors. We paid cash for Doc in the Box treatment for “possible pneumonia” and got our IVM through cash-only doctors and pharmacies. Subscribed to Z-Stack too. Glad to share the same island with you guys.
Early on, we received prophylactic HCQ from AFLDS and upon discussion, one of my doctors agreed to write an Rx for Ivermectin which I filled, then he wrote for a refill. By then, I was never able to find a pharmacy locally to fill the 2nd Rx. Recently, I received a “CYA” letter from him stating that he has discovered that Ivermectin was “very dangerous” and advised me to return any unused pills to the pharmacy. Apparently, the AMA had him by the —–!
P.S. I have also purchased x2 from India but I understand “they” are intercepting these orders now and I’m prob busted w this admission.
Yes, pleased to find like minded folks. Praying that our inept #SCOTUS gets straight w the info before making a decision that will affect the lives of all in this country.
Both my orders from India arrived, packaged discretely. Some are getting through.
We get in the back of the bus and let God drive! Let Go and Let God!
It is so nice to listen to common sense and reason. I do believe you have all of the protection you need, a previous infection. One recommendation the FLCCC makes that doesn’t seem to get much notice is betadine nasal spray that kills the virus in the nasal pharynx BEFORE it has a chance to metastasize into Covid 19. Being a nurse for 40+ years, but anyone can obviously see, “Come back when you turn blue,” is the dumbest advice ever given, and being a magistrate, you would probably have to judge rather harshly any doctor who advised this nonsense as malpractice, not misinformation. Prevention and/or early treatment and informed consent have always been the norm before the #AMA started providing #talkingpoints and threatening doctors with their license if they didn’t comply. What is shocking is the number of colleagues who have gone along with them.
Yes, a strong faith will help guide you, no matter what the Marxist Pope says!
CIA KUBARK
Depersonalization
Facts are, this is military grade psychological warfare.
You beat it by going to a TIME before the swallowed OP material.
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What needs to be mentioned here is just how effective TV news is. We all gas on and about social media, but nightly TV news is shockingly effective. Every time I see the d3vil Norah O’Donnell I shudder, but she’s good at here job. She delivers those lies and propaganda like the pro that she is.
In political science grad school I tried studying communications, but the faculty thought it was just more information faster so of little concern. However, it is actually far more than that, as we’ve recently seen. Learned about this from Bill Moyers in the late 80–turns out he was remarkably prescient.
Image and Reality in America with Bill Moyers,
The Truth About Lies [click here]
Bill Moyers Essay: The End Game for Democracy [click here]
That’s why I no longer watch any television news, and have collapsed my TV watching down to the commercial-free subscription stuff that I can dial-out the propaganda when I want.
I stopped watching ALL television in 1970. Saved YEARS of my time.
Dang!! Awesome. I quit in 2005. Never looked back. Even in airports or bars…i would tune out and put my back the liars.
cable tv is by far one of the most persistent antagonistic forces that a human being will ever encounter. It strips your brain down to emotional levels and compromises your ability to rationally act.
facebook “news” is even worse, given IT CONDENSES the most destructive and emotionally compromising “news” ON PURPOSE to maintain its business model.
When I go to church, there is a “season” for talking and discussing real world problems and challenges.
This is balanced overwhelmingly by visiting the TRUTH: that your relationship with GOD will carry you through ANY situation you might face.
THAT is the difference.
what are you feeding your soul?
THAT is how you overcome “this world”.
Still say “Yahoo News” is the absolute worst, worst, worst.
Because you can watch the instant propaganda jump into action
as soon as any possible threat to the almighty narrative pops up.
They also have the most character assassins on board that help
them achieve this goal. Instant outing of any poor snook that dares
to utter the truth against the big boy’s wishes.
D’accord! For most under 40s it seems to be their ONLY news source.
10 to 1 the only media Sotomayor digests in her little bubble are NBC news, the NY Times, and the Washington Post. The only people who read the briefs in the vaccine mandate cases are her woke staff.
she a puppy dog. that is where she is, because she does the right tricks for the current occupiers of America’s government insurrectinist.
Fundamental Change = was the battle cry of a True Inssurectionist.
It was quite revealing.
There is a reason that all of the Communication Degrees reside at the most leftist colleges, which may be what you are alluding to. I will check out Bill Moyers. The problem is, before I really started paying attention, I wasn’t able to sort out wrought from naught. Luckily, I grew up in a Christian home and had a basic value set that I could kind of tell the truth from the fanciful. When BO was campaigning about all of the wonderful things he was going to do, I remember thinking, “Yeah right, how you going to do that?” An internet video I watched late at night gave me a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach and was the hallmark of my enlightenment. It started out talking about the birth rate in America, how we were barely even replacing ourselves. Many stories about the “browning of America,” dotted the news for years. “Hey, no prob, I’m no racist, marry who you want,” I remember thinking. The internet video on declining birth rates in America then began to show lights going on across Europe. The lights represented the numbers of migrant Muslim families, each with 7, 8-10 children. “Wow. the UK better wake up,” was going through my head when suddenly, those lights started going on in NYC and spreading one by one across the US. I sat back in my chair and all of the lessons my Catholic parents taught my 7 siblings and me about having more children to represent and replace us, lessons I had dismissed, finally having only 2 children starting at age 34, came rushing into my head. My parents somehow became much smarter that night.
Governments and Media (contrary to the belief that the media is dead) are taking full aim at the apathetic 50% who dwell between the believers and the resistance. So far a large majority of that 50% still follow the Government and Media as factual authorities. Governments (National to Municipal) and the Media rely on these people having a comprehension and memory span no longer than the time between news broadcasts. That is the reason Governments and Media can flip flop the messages at will to suit the need of the situation.
Our job is win the information battle by widening their vision and the comprehension that will follow.
This is not rocket science…once the flip flopping messages come into view the rest will follow as Governments and Media undo themselves even with their own “on the record” words and actions. No need to argue with “new facts” or “points of view” just compare and contrast their (Government’s and Media’s) OWN WORDS over time.
It works and you avoid the need for dueling expert arguments.
and thinking of oneself as one of the “smart ones” as opposed to the rubes in flyover country REALLLLLLY works against a person waking up, and I’m speaking about the 50% (or 40% or whatever) people kind of in the middle, going along.
I know for a fact I’ve got a high IQ for whatever that is worth, and I am in the “resistance” camp, so IQ is not the predictor. What I WILL say about that is that I also know for a fact that “rubes” are not unintelligent. But maybe don’t have the ego issues that “believers” have.
What do you think?
Ah…where is the ego in simply pointing out contradictions spoken or written??
Where is the ego in simply asking a person to compare and contrast present vs past???
IQ’s and “Egos” have zero to with that form of argument. It IS NOT condescending nor even contraversial to ask somebody to look and compare.
No where did I use the word “unintelligent”. It is a matter of asking somebody to expand their vision and apply their own common sense.
I think you over think the issue and answer proposed.
Agreed. I believe it is largely about ego. People don’t want to face cognitive dissonance, because their egos are deeply vested in what they have believed, including their beliefs about “trusted” sources of information. And those sources taught them to abandon their prior love of Trump (from The Apprentice, etc.), and to instead believe he’s a “racist” etc., which belief then got embedded into their egos. To admit the election was stolen, is to shatter their egos, and that HURTS!
And herein lies Mass Formation.
Nothing says there is something to this than when AP and Reuters collectively state there’s nothing to this.
Not only that, but they were the ones who surfaced the “original” something that we are now told never existed.
That notion has been discredited by decades of research on crowd behavior, Drury said. “No respectable psychologist agrees with these ideas now,” he said.
As I recall, the vast majority of psychology studies/experiments are not reproducible . Sham experiments. Sham conclusions. Then held up to discredit actual observations. Is that what the ‘respectable’ psychologists agree with?
I guess Drury is saying that only ‘fringe’ psychologists subscribe to the theory? Taking his cues from Fauci and Collins?
Mattias Desmet, the originator of Mass Formation made popular by Malone, states that the “psychosis” word is not part of his theory and denotes a negative stance which is apparent by the pushback we see today. Indeed, the MSM is creating years of additional research for Professor Desmet and his students.
https://rumble.com/vrxr3n-tpc-653-dr.-mattias-desmet-dr.-robert-malone-dr.-peter-mccullough-mass-form.html
Funny, though, this info has been out for sometime and this video in Oct answered alot of questions for me at the time as to why some were seeing the #RedFlags and others weren’t and why those that couldnt see them had become so uncharacteristically hostile.
Apparently the “experts” at the AP & Reuters never heard of Orson Welles radio broadcast of an adaptation of H.G. Wells novel, “The War of the Worlds“, and , as well, never heard of the mass hysteria it caused in a lot of the listeners…
Must not have happened… (sarc/)
I have a bachelor of science in psychology. Important distinction from bachelor of arts. I’m the labs and experiments Type more than the tell me about your mother type.
Still, my Creator has gifted me with discernment and excellent people skills. Many people have wanted to label me as an empath but I tend to shy away from it due to its new age connections in secular circles.
I am a Christian, an ordained elder in the Church of the Nazarene and I work in behavioral health, tho not as a clinician.
I said all that to say these “experts” are only playing word games. Had someone called it a phenomenon or an effect rather than psychosis, they wouldn’t be able to make their specious argument.
For instance, consider the bystander effect/phenomenon which we are all fully aware of as there are tons of instances where someone was raped or while others looked on and only got out their cellphones to record. I
And just exactly how did Jim Jones get all those people to drink the Kool-Aid? And what about those people with their Nikes and purple face coverings waiting on their comet?
the first thing the enemy always does is to mess with words so we spend more.time argung about and establishing meaning than fighting the enemy.
What needs to happen is new descriptions must be created so that we have the upper hand, the way Trump used “fake news.”
So how would you label a phenomenon of collective brainwashing? How would you package for mass awakening the idea that a boogeyman was created by a certain group and deliberately perpetuated by the corrupt fake media for the sole purpose of controlling the actions of millions?
In Malone’s recent interview with Jan Jekielek at Epoch Times, he confesses he has not studied psychology, and reports from his expert source that “psychosis” in the context of “mass formation,” is overstating it. Key is that the entire society felt a non-focused anxiety due to Covid, then Fauci led us to believe vaccines were our only hope, which 30% of the people hypnotically accept and believe, and therefore are prepared to treat the unvaxxed as the existential enemy. Calm, intelligent voices continuing to raise questions with contrary evidence is being met with hysterical appeals to the hypnotized. Thank our founding fathers that no one has totalitarian power in our country.
Yes, very perceptive and this was corrected by Desmet here. The “psychosis” needs to be dropped from the term “Mass Formation” as discussed by Professor Desmet whose theory Malone was discussing with Rogan.
https://rumble.com/vrxr3n-tpc-653-dr.-mattias-desmet-dr.-robert-malone-dr.-peter-mccullough-mass-form.html
Keep in mind the AP, UPI and to some extent Reuters are supposed to be “unbiased and not for profit” sources of news for other media outlets to use in building stories.
Look at the websites for UPI and AP, they “share” reporter pools with the MSM and members of the ownership as well as media operation boards of directors serve as directors of the AP and UPI. Reuters is a allot harder to see as they are a mix of privately owned and pooled resources.
The articles from source (AP, UPI and Reuters) to Glass or Print on Media ARE CIRCULAR stories, with outlets using themselves as sources.
Brainwashing is real and it is very difficult to break. Ask anyone who has had to rescue a loved one from a cult.
this is what’s happened on a global scale.
How to solve it? Isolate sufferers from the MSM connect them to loved ones who will facilitate healing and not say I told you so.
I’m uneducated beyond high school but I went to the “college of common sense and experience”. (My made up term).
The first time this mass formation psychosis was mentioned, it occurred to me that it was like an addiction. Take away the source of the addiction and eventually and sometimes with a lot of hard work, it will fade.
Hence, I agree with your Isolate sufferers from the MSM.
But a person has to be strong to accomplish that result. We don’t have many strong people in the USA anymore but we do have many wimps and cowards (with the exception of most Treepers). I don’t have any inside information but IMHO, we’ve already lost this information war.
I watched an Epoch Times video this morning (1-1/2 hours) featuring Dr. Peter McCullough, a very bright and brave doctor whom I admire. Been aware of him since the beginning of this covid debacle. The video was chock full of information, but Dr. McCullough was arguing both side of it….from the vaxxed side to the unvaxxed side.
He changed sides so many times, my head was spinning. Just not sure what to think about this development.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/part-2-dr-peter-mccullough-on-omicron-realities-and-vaers-reports-on-vaccine-injuries-and-deaths_4188071.html?&utm_medium=email&utm_source=promotion&utm_campaign=EET0108&utm_term=1for2M&utm_content=trend1
Sorry Ad Rem. I think I broke this page with that Epoch Times link I posted. Tried to remove it but was too late.
I don’t believe we’ve lost the information war. In fact, quite the opposite. The MSM cannot control the signal. Like trying to herd cats, independent media voices on independent platforms get the word out vety effectively
This is a positive development. The fake news media calls out the circle-jerkers of academia to bail out the political Judas Iscariots of governments around the world. The scum of the earth continues to reveal themselves. We’ll see who reaps the whirlwind.
There was an interview with psychiatrist or psychologist on the Epoch Times several weeks ago and he called it Mass Hysteria Psychosis…I like that better anyway..no one knows what formation means, but they know the word hysteria.
Watch and learn.
https://rumble.com/vrxr3n-tpc-653-dr.-mattias-desmet-dr.-robert-malone-dr.-peter-mccullough-mass-form.html
This tells me they were woefully inadequate at silencing Dr. Malone! The fact that it took this long tells me they have no idea how to defuse all the truth bombs he’s been throwing out.
I’m surprised they haven’t uncovered a sexual misconduct accuser. /s
So Dr— Ph.D. —Mr Drury claims there’s no such thing as “mob mentality?”
-That mob mentality which is another word for this “Mass Formation Psychosis,” has been discredited.
Really?
I have personally been in dozens of riots. I watched as large groups of individuals morphed into a singular entity of a criminal and primitive mentality. How otherwise normal folks then engaged—-en masse— in violent behavior. That only after disruption and diffusion tactics would the mindless mindset be broken and the people dispersed. Whole section in libraries are dedicated to this subject.
Ask any cop ever involved in crowd control….with years of experience. You’ll get the same answer.
These clowns are lying their collective asses off, doing their damnest to convince us that black is white and white is black, up is down and down is up.
Don’t anyone believe it.
yes. this will backfire on them.
Respectfully, however, Mattias Desmet, whose theory of Mass Formation is being discussed, requests the removal of the word “psychosis,” from the title of his theory.
https://rumble.com/vrxr3n-tpc-653-dr.-mattias-desmet-dr.-robert-malone-dr.-peter-mccullough-mass-form.html
What do the call the Jonestown and Heaven’s Gate groups? Cults. How is this different from the Mass Formation Psychosis theory? We look back at these tragedies in disbelief. Why were the German people willing to follow Hitler? What brought them to that point? Then when forced to visit the concentration camps after the war they were horrified, the spell was broken. We need to break through the illusion created around Covid.
Whenever they start a sentence with “there is no evidence” you know whatever follows is sketchy at best. They like to play word games. Dr. Desmet, the psychiatrist who posited the MFP theory prefers to refer to it as Mass Formation because people aren’t likely to buy into the idea that they’re psychotic. Would the experts cited refute Mass Formation?
Little by little I’m making inroads with my own siblings. Two are fully awake, two are at least open-minded. Two others are still out of reach. For Christmas we sent four of them them medicine kits to have on hand if they or their families get Covid. One, who is jabbed and boosted, has never acknowledged the gift. It’s okay, but it tells me they won’t even consider the possibility that the jabs aren’t everything. Time will tell. The truth eventually comes out.
COVID is, and always has been, an overblown panic. Yes, the virus is real; and yes, the death toll is much higher than seasonal flu especially for the elderly and those with certain comorbidities. And yes, it does kill healthy young people in far greater numbers than the seasonal flu.
However, the entire response has been predicated on the idea that we can stop the virus its tracks until a vaccine is available to wipe it out. That is simply untrue. The lockdowns did nothing whatsoever to stop the virus, all it did was marginally slow it down at enormous expensive to the economy, society, and humanity.
We would’ve been better off had the government done nothing and let COVID run its course.
repeat that in ad nauseum
We would’ve been better off had the government done nothing and let COVID run its course.
We would’ve been better off had the government done nothing and let COVID run its course.
We would’ve been better off had the government done nothing and let COVID run its course.
We would’ve been better off had the government done nothing and let COVID run its course.
Ah hah, the #GreatBarringtonDeclaration.
After they Grubered the public with impossible math into ObamaCare
and successfully brainwashing the public
Getting away with the brainwash even as ObamaCare obvious mass financial failure (22 of 23 exchanges bankrupted)
Then the pull the Clinton Russia Hoax which is documented they all knew it was a Hoax in 2016 and acted on it anyways…
Successfully brainwashing most of the public into believing it’s real even though it’s obvious such things as there was never a Russian Consulate in Miami…. Getting away with brainwashing most of the public for 3 years
Now they say it’s impossible to do what they’ve been doing the entire decade already
I’ve studied psychology for seven decades and my own decades long research all over the world, ‘in person and on the ground’, has convinced ‘me’ that so called “psychologists” only know what they’ve been told which has no bearing whatsoever on reality. The reality is that with almost 9 billion people on the planet you have almost 9 billion different and totally separate personalities that are collectively “hive minded”, else there would be no societies to ponder the question! Mass hysteria can exist with only two people or all almost 9 billion people! *Trust me…*… Ever been to a soccer game in Argentina?
mob mentality. which is why Alinsky developed all of his rules based on keeping a mob formed at at the ready (hence the constant agitation of social issues to keep the mob TOGETHER and READY for action)
Exactly and the basis for #IdentityPolitics.
Sounds to me more like the old joke “It works in practice, but will it work in theory?”
Interesting the only name appearing in all references is, not the inventor of mfp, but, instead, a guy named malone.
Who is not about to step out of this misdirected limelight to inform anyone he is not the creator. Another example of what a self serving creep that malone is.
There seems to be more and more discussion (mfp being one) about who are the forces are behind the pandemic and what is the end game . I find mfp to be a kind of scatter brained approach to that question and so, doesn’t move the ball downfield very much.
On the other hand, the latest worthwhile discussion I can find is between Mike Yeadon and Reiner Fuellmich here: https://www.bitchute.com/video/GDEYQXoLIOhT/
Although the main issue involves the vaccines and their danger, Yeadon points out he thinks there is someone or something, as yet unknown, driving all this. He doesn’t know who it is; but is convinced that persons behind all this are trying very hard to remain anonymous as they implement their game plan.
I find that Yeadons’ notions correlate with what’s been expressed by David Icke, here ,as an example https://davidicke.com/2021/12/08/david-icke-dr-tom-cowan-dr-andrew-kaufman-true-healing-conference-2021/
Wrong. https://rumble.com/vrxr3n-tpc-653-dr.-mattias-desmet-dr.-robert-malone-dr.-peter-mccullough-mass-form.html
You know that you are directly over the target when the flak flies up, while everything on the radio insists that you are not directly over the target.
When they use exactly your terminology and insist that it isn’t so, you know that you’re using exactly the right terminology.
People are not responding “rationally” to any of this, and they’re even exhibiting “Stockholm Syndrome.” It’s a textbook example. Absolutely textbook.
And yet … This is how they “explain” the phenomenon of Trump.
There’s no “evidence” of mass formation psychosis (MFP)? What more evidence does one need than a Supreme Court justice–who allegedly read and pondered multiple briefs containing irrefutable evidence (truths, not opinions) about vaccine efficacy and pandemic statistics–nevertheless spouting the MFP narrative, the very obvious lies that form the basis to diagnose the disorder?
Frightening, isn’t it. I think the world was aghast with mouths wide open when she said that.
This video has may have been shown here before.
But I just now found it working through a web-maze starting with Dr. Malone interviews.
If only college psych courses would include/use! the writings of the men in the attached ‘After School’ video.
“MASS PSYCHOSIS – How an Entire Population Becomes MENTALLY ILL”
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A revelation to me, beginning after the 10 minute mark the video goes into how a fearful (and manipulated population) is maintained. It explains how tragic events are mixed with a period of calm, then another tragic event, then calm and on it goes. People don’t have a chance to get over the prior tragedy before the next one hits.
Now I can better see the reason for the planning/implementation of ‘false flags’ and tragedies. Maintaining fear.
So, I just wanted to express my appreciation for learning these things. And for being here with SD and crew and you people whose insightful comments will take an even deeper meaning.
Thank you for this further explanation.
We are in war for the truth American people have no clue that propaganda is legal and is full swing 24 7 MSM just propagandist but people wake up get coffee and turn THE NEWS this has been slow rolled over years .
Satan’s greatest accomplishment is convincing the world he does not exist.
Adolf Hitler could not be reached for comment…
It would be interesting to read what those same experts had to say about the Jonestown mass suicide ..
As for brilliant Lewis Carroll, when the nonsense world becomes too nonsensical with heads spinning, “truth breaks in with all of its matter-of-factness”(thanks Frost) about a $4.50 can of canola spray, up from a $1.99 a year ago, and $4.00 gal gasoline, up from a $1.87 and the only added variable in the equation is a Biden administration.
Love this article by Sundance.
The mass formation psychosis is directly over the target and because there are not a helluva alot if ‘respectable psychologists’ coming out of academia(in fact most are marxists) it is laughable Drury stated they don’t agree!
The question I have is this: why are some people susceptible to this mass formation psychosis snd others not?
Has Malone addressed that? If so, could someone point me to that source?
Television. No television no psychosis.
A: The source:
Beware the cornered rat. Very dangerous creature.
I just listened to the interview with Malone. McCullough and Mattias Desmet who is the Belgium Professor that has researched and presented this theory for months. It has been attributed to Malone who was just discussing it with Rogan. Since then, the subject has when blown up. What Desmet wants clarified is, it is termed #MassFormation, no psychosis after it and that is what these psychologists are arguing about. We need to quit adding that 3rd word to describe Mass Formation, a theory that needs to be credited to Mattias Desmet who has studied it for years. Be that as it may, these freakouts are giving Desmet years of research material to prove his point. A new Mass Formation seems to be occurring creating a new social bond for those who don’t believe the very behavior they are demonstrating. Listen to and enjoy this discussion . It answers alot of questions.
https://rumble.com/vrxr3n-tpc-653-dr.-mattias-desmet-dr.-robert-malone-dr.-peter-mccullough-mass-form.html
I would like to include this interview from Oct 2021, of Prof Mattias Desmet discussing Mass Formation. This answered alot of questions months ago for me as to why some people could see the ridiculous #RedFlags and others couldn’t. His theory has been out there but Malone and Rogan brought it to the forefront, and, as stated, the MSM is providing years of research material for Prof Desmet and his students.
“Crowd psychology”?
If A has a psychology, B has a psychology, and C has a psychology, and together they form a crowd, then what is the psychologist studying if not their collective psychology AS A CROWD? If the psychologist says the crowd has not psychology, per se, then what is “crowd psychology” in the first place?
… but “Asymptomatic Spread”, masks prevent the flu, “Social Distancing”, gender reassignment treats gender dsphoria are a thing?
Who do these people think they are, cause they obviously can’t even discern that they’ve shredded all their credibility?
I hope this doesn’t stray to far from main topic
Has anyone been following this story out of Texas concerning a new vaccine created by Texas Children’s Hospital and Baylor College of Medicine ??
I just looked this up but I have not read anything on the subject. This is where Dr. Peter McCullough worked, maybe he has addressed this?
https://www.bcm.edu/departments/pediatrics/divisions-and-centers/tropical-medicine/research/vaccine-development/coronavirus-vaccines
Spread it everywhere. Dr. Malone said the same thing in his podcast interview with Joe Rogan. Potentially over 500,000 dead Americans from the Establishment’s sinister and intentional decision to block early treatment medications for Covid.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/01/maria-bartiromo-disgusting-know-fact-hydroxychloroquine-ivermectin-work-treat-covid-video/
Did the author think our computer screens are 3 feet wide? 🙂
Some browsers will let you set the width. Right-click on a comment and see if there is a menu option called something like Inspect Element.
If yes, choose it, which will open a developer tools panel. Look for a CSS panel named something like Rules. In there, look for a CSS class named “#wpdcom”. In there, look for a style named “width”. Set width to “1000px” (say). If there is no width, add a line “width: 1000px;”. If all goes well, the comments will be displayed in a box 1000 pixels wide. Until you reload the page or do something else which resets the setting you changed.