President Trump gave an interview to Candace Owens for The Daily Wire. The full interview is only available for subscribers [link]; however, there is a segment released by Mrs. Owens where Donald Trump talks about the specifics of his position on the vaccine and the mandates.
President Trump supports the three vaccines that were developed during his administration, and is proud of the system he put into place to develop them and get them available to the public. However, President Trump does not support mandating the vaccine or forced vaccination for anyone, and believes that people should have the freedom to decide what is in their individual best interests. WATCH:
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At approximately 05:10 of the interview, President Trump notes the specific issue of a government mandated vaccine developed by a private corporation, and the risk of corruption and conflicted interests involved. President Trump accepts that reasonable people would be skeptical of the vaccine itself and would have personal reasons not to participate.
Toward the very end of the interview Trump states he is proud of the accomplishment and will not “give up” on his belief of the vaccine development as a success during his administration. However, he sees the forced mandate as very detrimental to the economy and views the consequences of the mandate itself as a problem for national security.
Given the range of opinions on the issue of the vaccines overall, and the mandate specifically, President Trump’s position seems quite pragmatic and reasonable. He’s proud to have developed the vaccines, believes they are of benefit, but strongly respects individual choice, liberty and the freedom to decide for yourself and your family. I don’t see anything controversial in this position.

Very well stated Child.
but its not killing everyone. that is the confusing part.
Has anyone heard any safety info on the Covivax?
Who is flacking covaxin and why? No serious side effects? Even water has serious side effects under the right circumstances.
You still don’t give children a new vaccine with no long-term studies especially for a disease that they have no risk from
If Trump had been reelected, I wonder how many of us would have taken the vaccine based on his urging, completely oblivious to the danger. Does God’s mysterious ways include tilting an election?
ZERRRRROOOOOOOOOOO except for the High Risk People that would have talked to their Doctor and needed the 3 month immune boost to make it through winter to Live another Year.
it wouldnt be mandated. it wouldnt have been turned into a children’s cartoon to guilt everyone into taking it for Pfizer’s salesmen’s commision.
Not me. I was never going to take it no matter how hard he’d push. He’s not winning anyone over with this.
Millions would’ve trusted him. I believe God played a hand in getting him in and getting him out. Sort of a “see if this wakes you up” thing. What did we learn from the experience? That we can’t trust anyone and have to Do It Ourselves.
It’s all up to us. We have to do it ourselves.
Not me. It’s not an “achievement” to rush out an experimental vaccine using never-before tried medical technology in a few short months, which underwent deeply flawed, abbreviated clinical trials and NO long-term trials. That was an accident waiting to happen, and indeed, the accident did happen.
I wouldn’t have. By early fall of 2020 I knew it was not the way to go, that off would lead to big trouble.
Allowing a stolen election?
Just passing this on. Last month, “Praying Medic” was asked why President Trump originally supported the vaccine. I thought his answer was at the very least thought-provoking. (See 11-minute video in the attached link).
https://prayingmedic.com/2021/11/22/why-does-president-trump-support-vaccines/
Definitely worth watching, Eric… Thank you.
Lockdown forever = _____
Lockdown with vaccine coming soon = ______
Cabal got screwed with lockdown being ended by vaccine (PDJT played to Pfizer greed, never expected them to harm citizens)
Cabal does mandate to get the Capitalist sytem (Attempt 1 was lockdown; stopped by vaccine)
Attempt 2 is Mandates to kill business.
We were in Attempt 2 until the lawsuits reached the supreme court.
What will Attempt 3 be to destroy capitalistic society
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hope that helps thought – i did watch the video.
“PDJT played to Pfizer greed, never expected them to harm citizens.”
He seems still not to expect it. I wonder if he’s read Kennedy’s book.
Didn’t know PM was still out there on his band wagon. He is looking rather thin. I used to enjoy watching his stuff, but he is a legend in his own mind. The arrogance he used to spew was quite something to watch.
Anyway, optics is one thing, people’s lives are another. Nice theory, but time will tell.
There have been many posts on this site (almost to an excessive degree) about how the vaccines are extremely dangerous and are killing people.
President Trump then comes out and says that the vaccines are totally safe and extremely effective, yet somehow that’s not controversial at all. I feel like I’ve entered the twilight zone.
Maybe Sundance isn’t who we thought he was. Who next will turn out to be someone totally different than we always thought they were? This movie is starting to really suck.
Yeah….. um, NO!
Very interesting comment. A question I have asked myself and can even remember the thread that prompted that thought.
Sundance is a triple, no wait, make that QUADRUPLE crossing spy bringing massive amounts of emotional violence upon you.
Perhaps he’s Amish.
Yeah, that’s it. Gottabe.
You slippery devil you…
the emotional violence comment got me to see what you were saying. people not allowing free thought or opposing opinions -> could be leftists.
That’s a good one Sundance. 🙂
A sincere thank you for the continuous source of information and thought that I get from this site and the contributors.
6 degree chess ?
🙂
Not controversial? Did you read the posts above and below yours? Sundance has his view, others have their views… Sometimes views align, sometimes they don’t… That’s how it works here.
When your view doesn’t align with the left you are committing emotional violence.
Read this thread with that in mind.
I see that…
I’m just commenting on his statement that nobody is challenging President Trump’s view (‘that’s not controversial at all’) — when that is so obviously not the case. Many are. That’s all.
Not always. Questioning Trump has led to being put in comment jail.
Seriously? I find that hard to believe, but I don’t know for sure… Doesn’t seem like the CTH I know… I’ve not seen Sundance shy away from a contrary opinion.
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Can you tell us 1 thing that would stop the Lock down besides a vaccine?
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Hydroxychloriquine and Ivermectin- EARLY TREATMENTS.
Trump tried to push that too but we know what happened with that.
Trump is not a doctor. India and Japan proved Ivermectin beyond any doubt that’s why the Bide administration wants it banned. They want you either dead or your health harmed.
Constitution?
Effective treatment of ARDS caused in 1-2% of cases that leads to death in 1%?
Are you kidding?
Have you ever read anything Dr. David Martin has said? How about Reiner Fuellmich or Tom Cowan or Andrew Kaufman? These are prominent references on this site, quoted time and again as solid truth tellers..
I guess the answer to my question must be “no” because if you had, you would not have even asked the question.
If Trump had paid attention to David Martin’s letter, we wouldn’t be in this mess and he would still be President.
And Dr. Sam Bailey.
You have to pretend not to know certain things…
Uh, simply stopping the lockdown. There was no rationale for it. Ever. Oh, and as many predicted over a year ago, the vaccines have stopped nothing.
Exactly. There was never a rationale for locking down.
People rising up and saying NO!!!!
Maybe the truth is the vaccines are kind of effective, pretty safe, and are neither a miracle that has to be jammed down our throats nor part of a satanic conspiracy, just modern technology rushed into development under trying circumstances.
Not everything is black or white.
It’s my belief that the vaccines are more useless than dangerous, but The Conservative Treehouse has been pushing the theory that people are dying left and right from the vaccines.
Numerous reports say that the vaccine was created first, and Covid was created so they could use the shot. But then human trafficking isn’t real either or the equivalent of slavery. Seriously, anything where DARPA and the NWO is involved, it isn’t good. That is black and white.
The idea of making a vaccine where a nucleic acid sequence is used to make the target viral protein instead of frowning viruses in eggs or tissue culture makes sense and yes it was under development before COVID-19. The fact that they can plug in a new variant and make a new vaccine is a genuine benefit. As it is now, every year they have to pick a candidate influenza virus in April, then grow it up over 6 month to have a vaccine in October that may be the wrong strain is a real problem.
Don’t understand the point your making
All the fan bois are cool with the clot shot now that The Donald has given it his blessing.
Then they will tell you he’s not a doctor so how could he avoid having been hustled by Fauci?
The truth is Trump was swindled but to admit it would destroy his reputation as The Great Deal Maker. Thus the kabuki theater persists.
The full interview is 29:55…. It’s not a ‘six minute interview’….
The full vid was taken down.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QtzvCK5AwP0
I agree, it is pretty stunning. The evil that has been done, but yeah, it is ok if Trump says it is ok?
Sundance, how many times can you recall President Trump publicly admitting that he was wrong about anything?
That’s just it. He can’t view himself as wrong, so he must say what he does. It’s too soon to tell what long-term effects any vax will have on him or anyone.
Did he really take it? We only have his word…
Please describe a situation openly on this forum when you were wrong and it was something important as it has happened to all of us. Please submit your life to public scrutiny. Your criticisms are as hollow as your soul. What have you sacrificed to preserve this country?
Please knock off the ugly comments, PP. John Evans = a commenter at CTH. Donald J. Trump = 45th President of the United States. Surely you understand the weight difference?
Public figures are subject to public scrutiny.
John Evans is just one of many who view President Trump’s enthusiastic endorsement of the clot shot as being not just wrong-headed but pigheaded.
Your arguments are as hollow as your head.
Thanks for your point of view. Still waiting for John to defend himself. And thanks Raven good point.
I’m not Sundance, but I remember Donald Trump publicly apologizing for the words he said during his Access Hollywood interview.
Yeah I bet they just love Desantis right.
I do!
I do too!
DeSantis is also on record that he supports the vaccine; Same as Trump, supports vaccine does not support mandate.
I like DeSantis, too. I just believe DeSantis is more effective in his role as a very strong Republican governor. I’m afraid if he is elected President, he will be given the “Trump” treatment, and will be silenced.
Pathetic quitters
He should be very circumspect with his comments about vaccine safety; his enemies will use those remarks against him as the vaccines, boosters become more ineffective and possibly, harmful.
They’re already ineffective and harmful.
And because of operation warp speed, the potential adverse effects will not be known for some years. Specifically, 5-12 years, which is the length of time needed to successfully conduct clinical trials.
but the adverse effects of lockdown and Police Powers Constitutionallly implemented by Governors would be clearly known by us immediately, and right now.
no Great Reset. we are innoculated against that shit, because this country still has some Dont Tread On Me in it.
I believe that these “vaccines” were already in the pipeline since SARS/Mers & their adverse effects have long been known… hence why they were never approved or marketed until a EUA could absolve big pharma of liability.
Exactly.
https://openvaers.com/covid-data
So we will never know, will we? At least, they will never *tell* us what really happened, that is, unless they think they can hang *all* the blame on the orange man.
And, as long as he cleaves to them like a pathogenic spike protein, they can’t possibly hang him without shooting themselves down along with him.
Well said. Love your choice of words, especially in your last paragraph.
Whoa
“cleaves to them like a pathogenic spike protein”
Bon mot!
“At approximately 05:10 of the interview, President Trump notes the specific issue of a government mandated vaccine developed by a private corporation, and the risk of corruption and conflicted interests involved.”
Bingo: “… the risk of corruption and conflicted interests involved.”
Many of the most dramatic and tragic side effects are iatrogenic. They are supposed to aspirate the syringe before delivering the injeta. They do not.
The purpose of aspiration? To see if blood can be drawn back into the syringe. This is the only way to see if the needle delivery point has infiltrated an artery or vein.
Why is this important? The spike must be entrained intramuscularly. To directly inject spike into the bloodstream is to invite chaos and tragedy.
The malpractice has been spectacular. The maladministration of the dosing and the negligence and failures to ensure informed consent to an experimental vaccine, and the deceptive practices of the vaccinators administrating refusing to warn or otherwise characterize these vaccines as experimental maybe have committed actionable criminal acts against those they vaccinated.
The most spectacular malpractice appears to be a product of vaccinating into a pandemic with guilty knowledge such promiscuous use will select for viral escape, especially when the target is a retrovirus.
This brings us home to nascent RICO considerations about deliberate use of promiscuous vaccination into a pandemic surge to knowingly select for viral escape to drive endless cycles of additional booster vaccination sales to chase the product of the promiscuous malpractice selecting for viral escape that renders prior retrovirus vaccinations irrelevant. This is a money machine. A trillion dollar global money machine that never ends. The retrovirus escape goes on and on and on and on and on.
Ka-ching!!
“… Trump notes the specific issue of a government mandated vaccine developed by a private corporation, and the risk of corruption and conflicted interests involved.”
Not to mention Collins, Fauci and cohorts who allegedly have interests of some sort in the patents involved.
Filmed over 30 years ago, an entirely relevant historical fact set forewarns the questionable institutional character and potentially malignant eugenic conceits which seem to shadow and perhaps animate the modern covid fiasco. The boys have been here before. Some are grayer and more greedy, they are back again for more.
There is nothing new under the sun. Get your history lesson here:
https://rumble.com/vr8i5f-30-years-ago-dr.-robert-willner-accused-the-nih-and-anthony-fauci-of-genoci.html
I have been thinking it’s all about the money; it always goes back to greed. All the usual suspects, Fauci, Gates, et al, have a piece of the vaccine.
Yes, that Dr. Robert Wilner presentation is extremely important–he calls out the scientific fraud behind the idea that HIV causes AIDS, explains the true cause of AIDS, and exposes the corruption of Fauci and NIH:
The full presentation is here:
Dr Willner (a medical doctor of 40 years experience) an outspoken whistleblower of the AIDS hoax. infront of a gathering of about 30 alternative-medicine practitioners and several journalists, Willner stuck a needle in the finger of Andres, 27, a Fort Lauderdale student who says he has tested positive for HIV. Then, wincing, the 65-year-old doctor stuck himself. In 1993, Dr. Willner stunned Spain by inoculating himself with the blood of Pedro Tocino, an HIV positive hemophiliac. This demonstration of devotion to the truth and the Hippocratic Oath he took, nearly 40 years before, was reported on the front page of every major newspaper in Spain. His appearance on Spain’s most popular television show envoked a 4 to 1 response by the viewing audience in favor of his position against the “AIDS hypothesis.” When asked why he would put his life on the line to make a point, Dr. Willner replied: “I do this to put a stop to the greatest murderous fraud in medical history. By injecting myself with HIV positive blood, I am proving the point as Dr. Walter Reed did to prove the truth about yellow fever. In this way it is my hope to expose the truth about HIV in the interest of all mankind.” He tested negative multiple times. He died of a Heart attack 4 months later 15th April 1995
Here’s his book:
http://www.whale.to/c/willner_deadly_deception.html
Medical establishment is just as corrupt as our government. They have been committing scientific fraud for decades. Trust nothing from the medical establishment/mafia. Do your own research.
Truth
Hence booster #4 in pipeline…
His pride is in the way.
Ego
Yes it can certainly backfire on him if he doesn’t stop promoting them.
He certainly must know this and see the trap they are setting to blame him.
I cannot for the life of me see the logic in his continued support of the clot shot.
By clinging tightly to his oppressors, they can’t “isolate” him as a target without taking themselves down with him.
The little wiggle room he has left: He insists that we choose for ourselves. He never wavers on our right to choose freely.
At this point, he obviously relies on “his” people to use the brains that God gave them, if they still have any.
The others won’t heed his advice no matter what he says, anyway.
Trump’s Achilles heel is his ego, which in this case is trumping good judgment. The 2024 nomination is his to lose, and if he stays on this course, to judge from the audience response in Dallas, he may well lose it.
Yep. Too little is said about the role his ego is playing in this clotshot debacle. It is precisely, as you point out, his Achilles heel.
You an I’s achilles heel is a lockdown (dead from capitalism being finished).
Can you name 1 thing that would stop the Lockdown besides a Vaccine?
Just putting a different thought angle out there for debate.
As I responded above to yourcearluer posing of this question, all that was needed tovstop lockdowns was human will. There was zero basis for them. Period. And note that the injections have stopped exactly nothing.
Bingo
Here’s how I put it: If Trump discovered that a contractor had cut corners on the structure of a building Trump himself had envisioned, thus threatening the safety of future tenants, would he A) unreservedly sell tenant space or B) sue the contractor into bankruptcy? I would hope he would pick option B.
Ivermectin.
Can’t anyone in any position anywhere in the USA say it?
Covid.
Not-deadly to those under 30.
Really really not dangeous to those under 20.
No need to get a “vax”
Can’t anyone anywhere in the USA say it?
Ben Carson says it clearly.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/12/05/sunday-talks-dr-ben-carson-discusses-the-omicron-variant-madness/
well I’ll be damn. they pulled the video.
i know he does talk about the young not really needing a shot…but not until recently.
And….has he ever mentioned ivemectin, or hcq, etc.? (maybe i missed it all of this past year…)
President Trump heralded HCQ as the “game changer” back in March 2020, the first month of the PLANdemic shut downs. It was very widely reported.
That’s when the EU’s “prestigious” scientific Lancet journal published a completely fabricated study trashing HCQ as dangerous.
The fix was in at the very beginning..
As I understand it: HCQ+Zn+Vitamin D is what u take to prevent it (most of the time).
But if you’ve got the ‘vid, ivermectin clears it up within 48 hrs.
(That said, ivermectin was not known as a cure back when Trump was in office— but its effects on the ‘vid have been known now for ~6 months.
https://nonvenipacem.com/2021/02/04/ivermectin-whats-good-for-the-horse-is-good-for-the-handler/
Thank you. I take HCQ , Zinc and vitamins prophylaxis and I saved the big gun -Ivermectin- in case I get sick. I’m not a spring chicken and I had a cancer scare, so I’m not taking chances. I stocked up on everything.
Interestingly, CNN is reporting on problems in hospitals with patients refusing hospital protocol treatment instead demanding alternate treatment like Ivermectin. Also reports staffing shortages because nurses are refusing the vax.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/24/us/doctors-patients-threats-coronavirus-treatments/index.html
Awesome, the word is getting out even with another untruthful spin…
Without a doubt, healthcare workers are rebelling. An ER on LI had to close when the staff was fired for refusing the poison death shots.
When I was asked whether I am vaccinated, as is standard protocol on patient intakes now, I said “no” and proceeded to explain why.
The healthcare professional stopped me and, without coming right out and saying it, let me know that he was in perfect agreement.
Even my clueless Democrat husband is changing his tune. Like Sundance originally predicted, we will know the tide has turned as soon as the Lefties try to blame this whole thing on Trump.
If my husband is finally hearing about it, that to me is a shot across the bow.
I missed Sundance’s original post, ” Like Sundance originally predicted, we will know the tide has turned as soon as the Lefties try to blame this whole thing on Trump,” brilliant!
Thanks for re-posting. May you have a happy and vigorously healthy New Year, Judith. Be patient with your dear hubby. As Regan said, “It’s not that liberals don’t know anything. It’s just that so much of what they know is wrong.”
Say it.. they fight it. Edwards Hospital in Naperville, Il denied a man Ivermectin who had a less than 15% survival. His daughter went to court, won. Then Edward’s denied the administering Doctor entrance to the hospital who wasn’t vax’d. The daughter when to court again and won. After Sun Ng received the Ivermectin, he felt better immediately and removed his own breathing tube.
Did Edward’s learn anything.. no unfortunately. They still blindly follow CDC and FDA guidelines. And this is all with an Indemnity signed. They had nothing to loose.
Pathetic
Thank God for Ivermectin. It’s the only therapeutic I know of that saves high risk patients at any stage of Covid: for prevention, during an active infection and also to treat lingering, post-Covid side effects.
I wonder why that is so? Maybe, since it is primarily used to kill parasites, Ivermectin does a number on those Hydra-like microorganisms that the doctor discovered under her microscope in different batches of Covid vaccines.
Is this why the mRNA vials must be kept at a freezing temperature? I guess maybe we’ll know in 70 years or so, when Pfizer finally agrees to release all of the vax ingredients to the public.
So much for “informed” consent, am I right?
Judith… you are very informed. Bravo! Love Dr. Lee Merritt, brilliant. Everyone should be listening to Scott Kesterson’s interview with her how they are engineering control. The academics don’t believe in Ivermectin. They all can’t admit to being wrong.
This might be the answer to the hydra… time will tell. Sounds very promising.
https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/therapies/antiviral-therapy/nitazoxanide/
https://nonvenipacem.com/2021/02/04/ivermectin-whats-good-for-the-horse-is-good-for-the-handler/
They get govt money following the death protocol.
It is obvious that we are in a battle of good vs evil.
But the best president America ever had does not know that and he won’t be able to lead the Republic to salvation. Nobody will.
Turn to God, it will make martyrdom appealing.
Marry Christmas
“The vaccine is one of the greatest achievements of mankind.”
It ranks right up there with the Pythagorean theorem, circumnavigation of the globe, putting a man on the moon, splitting the atom, the discovery of penicillin and pull-tab beer cans. 🙄
Statements like this make it easy to see how he got swindled by Cocaine Mitch into nominating three squishes to the USSC.
Lockdown would have me an you Dead right now.
Can you name one thing that would stop the lockdown besides a vaccine? It sure as hell isnt the American People rising up together.
We are to domesticated. Period.
Gavin has mandated masks indoors again, but most in my part of CA are “nullifying” him and the Sheriff says that he won’t enforce the mandate. That’s what stops mandates.
you are rare, and your area is rare, and you are the undomesticated that America can rely on.
you are 100% correct.
do you think the rest of the country is on par?
I think that was intended as a compliment…thank you. A good portion of our country is on par and I will stand with them. Even a good portion of CA is on par, outside of the coastal counties.
hell yea its a compliment
Trust me PDJT would prefer ‘your method’ over ‘having to do the vaccine’ to end lockdowns.
It is.
Covid 19 Hallelujah
This is the way.
If everyone refuses to play along.
It is the awesome power of We the People. When we know the truth, we know what to do.
This is what the One Worlders fear the most, people knowing the truth. Lies are their stock in trade. It’s all they know: steal, kill, and destroy.
Been doing it since the beginning.
The same strategy implenemted in India and Mexico…..
direct treatment with available drugs…
costs would have been minimal compared to what has been forced upon our country…. critical failures resulting in massive damage to our country and people..!
5 eye countries all in it together, global restructuring.
Long in the works. Kennedy’s book The Real Anthony Fauci: Bill Gates, Big Pharma, and the Global War on Democracy and Public Health lays it all out.
Read it and prepare yourselves. Truly horrific.
“We are to domesticated. Period.” ???
Nope, “domesticated” ain’t the correct word…
The correct word is: “COWARDLY.”
The Heroes that fought and died for our freedom must be spinning in their graves.
thats lessening some though. we got a kick in the butt – now we kinda know to get involved.
Oh? There are no lockdowns going on right now? Are you sure? Try move around freely without a vaccine passport in certain cities or even countries.
Sweden never had lockdowns. Not from day one.
New York City has been more or less continuously locked down. I don’t know about this no lockdown nonsense. Maybe in God’s country but not in left-wing strongholds
Sweden doesn’t need lockdowns. The Sharia hordes have everybody trapped inside their homes already. /s
As Treehouse prophet and seer, your time would be better spent coaxing President Trump to jump from the airplane he set on fire.
He was going to tout the wall as one of the wonders of the world but those dern Congressmen just couldn’t fund it!
And billionaire self-proclaimed genius Donald Trump just couldn’t figure out how to get pennies from under some other couch cushions and get it going until like 2 years into his presidency. Yeah, no need to focus on that, your BIG BEAUTIFUL CAMPAIGN PROMISE.
And all that dragon/panda crap with China that went nowhere because he took so long playing “well… maybe if you back down… we can reset things to the way they were for a little while longer…” instead of just telling them what to do because we’re America and they need us more than we need them.
I believed in a version of Trump that did not actually exist. I voted for a pig in a poke.
Lawsuits prevented the wall going up in for a long time, plus fighting for funding. Since you don’t know his facts I doubt you voted for him. The pig you voted for was probably pedo joe.
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He fought the other two branches of the govt. and he fought lawsuits against the wall before he could make progress. When he got the clearance his wall went up quickly and stretched for miles. It would have been finished by now had he not had his re-election stolen from him.
on China, he kept them on their heels, maneuvered them into a corner on trade, established tariffs and more. That kind of wholesale change in dealing with a hostile trade partner takes a long time to come through. He had companies coming home too, for a place in the USA manufacturing and production marketplace with jobs being created. It would also have come to fruition in his second term. Our economy and employment picture was one of success and upward movement with wages rising.
Then China played the covid card and made the most of it. The election was stolen. The bottom fell out of the strides PTrump made his first term despite fighting every anti Trump group, the msm and individuals that attacked him relentlessly and a govt. that impeached him.
Tell me again about promises not kept? He did more against greater odds than almost any President in our history. You should rethink what you wrote, because you missed quite a few facts, the least of which is PTrump didn’t keep his campaign promises.
Trump was, and is, so great on so many issues, and he bucked the opinions of many in pressing his policies, including those on the right. That’s why his stance on the vaccine, and earlier, his allowing Fauci and Birx to set the narrative, is so frustrating to many of his supporters. Again, perhaps his germaphobia was the hero’s fatal flaw.
Would I vote for him again? You bet.
He does exist.
Maybe this will freshen your memory of why we needed to find a man like PRESIDENT TRUMP!
OPINION
He Fights
Evan Sayet | July 13, 2017
He Fights
My Leftist friends (as well as many ardent #NeverTrumpers) constantly ask me if I’m not bothered by Donald Trump’s lack of decorum. They ask if I don’t think his tweets are “beneath the dignity of the office.” Here’s my answer:
We Right-thinking people have tried dignity. There could not have been a man of more quiet dignity than George W. Bush as he suffered the outrageous lies and politically motivated hatreds that undermined his presidency. We tried statesmanship. Could there be another human being on this earth who so desperately prized “collegiality” as John McCain? We tried propriety – has there been a nicer human being ever than Mitt Romney? And the results were always the same.
This is because, while we were playing by the rules of dignity, collegiality and propriety, the Left has been, for the past 60 years, engaged in a knife fight where the only rules are those of Saul Alinsky and the Chicago mob.
I don’t find anything “dignified,” “collegial” or “proper” about Barack Obama’s lying about what went down on the streets of Ferguson in order to ramp up racial hatreds because racial hatreds serve the Democratic Party. I don’t see anything “dignified” in lying about the deaths of four Americans in Benghazi and imprisoning an innocent filmmaker to cover your tracks. I don’t see anything “statesman-like” in weaponizing the IRS to be used to destroy your political opponents and any dissent. Yes, Obama was “articulate” and “polished” but in no way was he in the least bit “dignified,” “collegial” or “proper.”
The Left has been engaged in a war against America since the rise of the Children of the ‘60s. To them, it has been an all-out war where nothing is held sacred and nothing is seen as beyond the pale. It has been a war they’ve fought with violence, the threat of violence, demagoguery and lies from day one – the violent take-over of the universities – till today.
The problem is that, through these years, the Left has been the only side fighting this war. While the Left has been taking a knife to anyone who stands in their way, the Right has continued to act with dignity, collegiality and propriety.
With Donald Trump, this all has come to an end. Donald Trump is America’s first wartime president in the Culture War.
During wartime, things like “dignity” and “collegiality” simply aren’t the most essential qualities one looks for in their warriors. Ulysses Grant was a drunk whose behavior in peacetime might well have seen him drummed out of the Army for conduct unbecoming. Had Abraham Lincoln applied the peacetime rules of propriety and booted Grant, the Democrats might well still be holding their slaves today. Lincoln rightly recognized that, “I cannot spare this man. He fights.”
General George Patton was a vulgar-talking, son-of-a-bitch. In peacetime, this might have seen him stripped of rank. But, had Franklin Roosevelt applied the normal rules of decorum, then Hitler and the Socialists would barely be five decades into their thousand-year Reich.
Trump is fighting. And what’s particularly delicious is that, like Patton standing over the battlefield as his tanks obliterated Rommel’s, he’s shouting, “You magnificent bastards, I read your book!” That is just the icing on the cake, but it’s wonderful to see that not only is Trump fighting, he’s defeating the Left using their own tactics.
That book is Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals – a book so essential to the Liberals’ war against America that it is and was the playbook for the entire Obama administration and the subject of Hillary Clinton’s senior thesis. It is a book of such pure evil, that, just as the rest of us would dedicate our book to those we most love or those to whom we are most indebted, Alinsky dedicated his book to Lucifer.
Trump’s tweets may seem rash and unconsidered but, in reality, he is doing exactly what Alinsky suggested his followers do.
First, instead of going after “the fake media” – and they are so fake that they have literally gotten every single significant story of the past 60 years not just wrong, but diametrically opposed to the truth, from the Tet Offensive to Benghazi, to what really happened on the streets of Ferguson, Missouri – Trump isolated CNN. He made it personal. Then, just as Alinsky suggests, he employs ridicule which Alinsky described as “the most powerful weapon of all.”
Everyone gets that it’s not just CNN – in fact, in a world where Al Sharpton and Rachel Maddow, Paul Krugman and Nicholas Kristof are people of influence and whose “reporting” is in no way significantly different than CNN’s – CNN is just a piker.
Most importantly, Trump’s tweets have put CNN in an untenable and unwinnable position. With Trump’s ability to go around them, they cannot simply stand pat. They need to respond. This leaves them with only two choices.
They can either “go high” (as Hillary would disingenuously declare of herself and the fake news would disingenuously report as the truth) and begin to honestly and accurately report the news or they can double-down on their usual tactics and hope to defeat Trump with twice their usual hysteria and demagoguery.
The problem for CNN (et al.) with the former is that, if they were to start honestly reporting the news, that would be the end of the Democratic Party they serve. It is nothing but the incessant use of fake news (read: propaganda) that keeps the Left alive.
Imagine, for example, if CNN had honestly and accurately reported then-candidate Barack Obama’s close ties to foreign terrorists (Rashid Khalidi), domestic terrorists (William Ayers), the mafia (Tony Rezko) or the true evils of his spiritual mentor, Jeremiah Wright’s, church.
Imagine if they had honestly and accurately conveyed the evils of the Obama administration’s weaponizing of the IRS to be used against their political opponents or his running of guns to the Mexican cartels or the truth about the murder of Ambassador Christopher Stevens and the Obama administration’s cover-up.
This makes “going high” a non-starter for CNN. This leaves them no other option but to ratchet up the fake news, conjuring up the next “nothing burger” and devoting 24 hours a day to hysterical rants about how it’s “worse than Nixon.”
This, obviously, is what CNN has chosen to do. The problem is that, as they become more and more hysterical, they become more and more obvious. Each new effort at even faker news than before and faker “outrage” only makes that much more clear to any objective observer that Trump is and always has been right about the fake news media.
And, by causing their hysteria, Trump has forced them into numerous, highly embarrassing and discrediting mistakes. Thus, in their desperation, they have lowered their standards even further and run with articles so clearly fake that, even with the liberal (lower case “l”) libel laws protecting the media, they’ve had to wholly retract and erase their stories repeatedly.
Their flailing at Trump has even seen them cross the line into criminality, with CNN using their vast corporate fortune to hunt down a private citizen for having made fun of them in an Internet meme. This threat to “dox” – release of personal information to encourage co-ideologists to visit violence upon him and his family — a political satirist was chilling in that it clearly wasn’t meant just for him. If it were, there would have been no reason for CNN to have made their “deal” with him public.
Instead, CNN – playing by “Chicago Rules” – was sending a message to any and all: dissent will not be tolerated.
This heavy-handed and hysterical response to a joke on the Internet has backfired on CNN, giving rise to only more righteous ridicule.
So, to my friends on the Left – and the #NeverTrumpers as well — do I wish we lived in a time when our president could be “collegial” and “dignified” and “proper”? Of course I do. These aren’t those times. This is war. And it’s a war that the Left has been fighting without opposition for the past 50 years.
So, say anything you want about this president – I get it, he can be vulgar, he can be crude, he can be undignified at times. I don’t care. I can’t spare this man. He fights.
Evan Sayet is the author of The KinderGarden of Eden: How The Modern Liberal Thinks. His lecture to the Heritage Foundation on this same topic remains, some ten years later, by far the single most viewed lecture in their history. Evan can be reached at [email protected]
JS = Joe Supporter
Joseph Stolens job approval rating must have you choking up.
The fact that Warp Speed was not immediately dismantled by the Donks like they did with all his other programs indicates the entire project was a Democrat operation from Day One.
He got hustled but is ashamed to admit it because it calls into question his masterly deal-making skills.
So, I guess it is time for CTH to switch to Desantis?
nah, lets protect Gov DeSantis. Let PDJT take the arrows – its dust to him.
Negative.
Ron will be keeping Florida red.
Bravo!
Chinese Corona virus….with a 99.7% survival rate!! WTF?
what exact time and date did we learn the survival rate?
during lockdown (no vaccine) ended around November? vaccine in December…
people back traveling around to test the survival rate when?
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you are right, but the context makes it clear why things were they way they were.
We had the data from Italy in I believe March 2020 that the average of death was 81 years old. That would tell you the survival rate and who was affected.
but we couldnt tell, because every country was locked down and not moving about. So the nursing homes were slaughtered by neglect – so until we came out and walked about the country again – the death rate could be masked and EXAGGERATED like you are pointing out.
FWIW I was pointing out that the numbers were suspect as far back as that infamous day, January 20, 2021.
theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/07/26/july-26th-2021-presidential-politics-resistance-day-188/comment-page-1/#comment-7920282
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We had a perfect petri dish – the Diamond Princess.
Exactly. Yet here we are. It always comes back to censorship and FAKE news, doesn’t it?
When will we extract ourselves from this FAKE news PROPAGANDA matrix? We never seem to have a salient thought anymore, unless the FAKE news first TELLS us which thought we are *allowed* to express.
Exactly and the low infection rate in Wuhan at the very beginning.
Yeah, and you knew this a year and a half ago, how?
Man you’re tedious. I’m thinking what the Marines day about the Navy must be true. Please impart upon us plebs your impeccable knowledge regarding how to do things right according to Dan. Is Trump a witch? Did he put us under a spell? Burn him at the stake? Thank God you’re not on the front lines. He’s against mandates. It doesn’t matter what he says regarding the gene therapy, we’re big boys and girls and he knows this. Does the “vaxx” have therapeutic values for some that exceed its potential side effects? Yes. Is it for everyone? No. Why should Trump invite scrutiny for his position. The greater good is not always clear to the unwise.
Does the “vaxx” have therapeutic values for some that exceed its potential side effects?
NO
Show your work
I think it does matter. The next President needs to severely reform if not demolish the FDA/CDC/NIH cabal, and championing Warp Speed as a model for safe drug development will not support that necessary action.
“I don’t see anything controversial in this position.”
Me either.
None of us are one dimensional and all of us change from minute to minute, whether others like those changes or not.
Trump is pro mandate.
Trump’s only solution is the vax.
Never did he mention the word Ivermectin.
He thus comes off uneducated on the subject and can only praise himself on the vax!
Not pro mandate.
It is what he did not say.
I generally like your posts. Hopefully we can agree to disagree
i agree that there are not many videos being pumped around that show him saying NO MANDATE, NO BOOST ITS A SCAM.
but I promise I have seen them.
and if PDJT was ever pro-mandate I promise you, I’d feel the same as you did in that statement.
He could have pumped his accomplishment in bringing the vax out and then went heavily into therapeutics. This would have won everyone over who is against the vax. He failed. As long as vax is the only solution, we are going to end up with vax cards and hunting down the unvaxed.
If this was a video to repair his image on his vax position, he failed. he gained nothing and only cemented the people that have had this issue with him. In that regard he is out of touch with his base.
he needs to turn it around.
i will say the FDA approved 2 products (pills) for covid treatment Today. so the Vaccine is a NON ISSUE for future people.
it still remains and issue for people that Lost their job already or took the shot.
Yes, and Ivermectin has been in use for some time in other countries. The time for Trump to fix his vax image was Today. His vax issue has been a problem for some time with a segment of his supporters and this interview did not address their needs.
Yes… The poison “vaccine” is killing and maiming people.
Trump shouldn’t be advising people to take it.
Never forget how the vaccine is administered is of enormous importance. Failure to aspirate the syringe can lead to the vaccine being directly injected into the bloodstream.
Aspirating the syringe will pull blood out of the body into the syringe if the needle has compromised the bloodstream. If so, the syringe gets tossed and they try again.
Injecting the spike directly into the bloodstream is an invitation to chaos and tragedy.
Some folks may not understand the significance of your statement.
Even when injected into the muscle it doesn’t stay there. The mRNA gene editing technology is a giant human experiment.
This is true but it is only part of the problem and a relatively minor part. Because the spike proteins are cytotoxic and because the MRNA is reprogramming the cells to produce it, and overall because we have no idea how long this affect will continue, the whole thing is insanely dangerous and the VAERS database proves it: even at a dismally low reporting rate of 1%.*
*Harvard Pilgrim study, 2010, funded by CDC
And both of those pills are dangerous.
i hand you a pill. to keep your job. you walk away and put it where you want.
Not if they use a pill popper on you, and then tell you the pill is only good for 3 months. You must come back to take another pill, and another pill, and another pill.
Yep. That’s what I’ve read so far.
It’s all about the patents and who gets a piece of the royalties. There needs to be a serious public airing of where the royalties go and what amounts are paid to whom.
They heap lofty praise on “Pharma” but the business is the same old industrial chemicals and patent medicine business cultures of the 19th Century. Eugenics. Phrenology. Behavioralism. Tabla Rasa.
We are the new Tuskegee Experiment.
Glissmeister, do get Kennedy’s book, The Real Anthony Fauci.
They’ve already excavated this termite mound, and they show where All the tunnels go.
Well now, if the FDA says it is ok, then it must be ok. God forbid a $2.00 pill that has been around for 60 years work compared to a newly created $100.00 a pill that has not been properly tested.
$1000
From what I have read so far, these are approved for use under very restricted conditions only.
You must be in the early phase of covid infection. They cannot be preventively used. They cannot be used in late phase prehospitalization. They cannot be used during hospitalization, IIRC.
If I learned anything from the Great Reset, it is this: We need to have the courage of our convictions, and we need to stick to our guns.
We also need to prepare for the Lefties going all Australia on us. That’s the next illogical step these totalitarians will take in their Great Reset “purge.”
Their whole PLaNdemic is sheer lunacy!
Sheer lunacy…
AKA
POPULATION CONTROL
Couldn’t have said it better
He did try to offer up other treatments and got hammered. Remember the bleach thing? He was right on that, he didn’t articulate it quite right, it doesn’t matter though, because he was going to get hammered no matter what he did or said.
I agree w/you though that this video was meant to be damage control and it only has made things worse for him.
The recent interview with Owen’s said no mandate…free choice.
Of course not. See how many out there are delusional? They hear what they want to hear, and not what was actually said.
President Trump has *never* advocated for a vaccine mandate. Never! If these same hysterical nitwits want to toss themselves off a cliff, how can *we* stop them?
This is where his genius kicks in: People hear only what they want to hear and he knows that.
No he’s not! You must be tuned in to CNN! Your comment comes off as uneducated on the subject.
You have gone off into the nether-lands.
There are none so blind as those who will not see.
There are none so deaf as those who will not hear.
Off the rail….take it elsewhere.
If you stitched together all those clichés you would have a quilt large enough to cover your intellectual nakedness.
The statement Trump is pro mandate is a blatant lie. He stated so many times. As is the statement his only solution is the vax. He pushed hydroxychloroquine. He never pushed Ivermectin because it was not known at the time it was effective. You do not think clearly.
PDJT learned the hard way with simply suggesting he heard good things about HCQ resulting in immediate demonization and banning of this lifesaving medicine, outright promoting anything after that was clearly hazardous to the health of those that stood to benefit from them.
I know, I hate that he couldn’t have gone full throttle on promotion of therapeutics and nutriceuticals, they could have saved so many and obviated the cursed Vaxx. He got played, hard.
Still, I am struggling to understand why he doesn’t have a team assembled to promote the genuinely effective and provably viable solutions now, it seems Treepers are far more aware of these prophylactics and protocols and confident in supporting them.
But he knows about it now.
He mentioned Hydroxychloroquine…early 2020….
( Then the media, nih made it taboo… while np was having ccp party in San fran…late March… )
He is not pro mandate.
He expressly stated on previous occasions that the choices should be up to the individual.
Thank you for your service Dan.
Excellent post.
Can you tell me what kills more people?
a) Socialism via Lockdown (Great Reset)
b) the vaccine
Can you tell us 1 thing that would stop the Lock down besides a vaccine?
He could have admitted that Ivermectin is effective, safe and inexpensive but that would diminish his self-image as the man who brought to life one of the great achievements in the history of mankind.
Can you tell me what kills more people?
a) Socialism via Lockdown (Great Reset)
b) the vaccine
Can you tell us 1 thing that would stop the Lock down besides a vaccine?
Yep! There is only one solution, the vax!
You trolls are pathetic and lack any ability to reason in less than absolute terms. Things are seldom as absolute as you describe. The inability to detect reasoned nuance within a particular position is a hallmark of intentional ignorance. Again, to all you divisive commie newcomers, we see you. And for all you oldtimers who are siding with them, it’s pathetic. Did any of you ever have a family or play a team sport? You fight for and with your own. Thank you, Sundance for all you do.
I don’t have a problem with his point of view either. I’m 75 in good health, take care of myself and I had two hits of Moderna. It was my call, but a certain segment of MAGA see this as selling out. I don’t care if you chose not to. It’s your body and I shake your hand and believe masks are worthless. The left is doing everything possible to split our unity over this issue and we must reject it at all costs.
I am in a similar place and it is disappointing to see a substantial part of the CTH commentariat making pronouncements that anyone who takes the vaccine is stupid or evil. That is clearly not Sundance’s or Trump’s viewpoint. This is the mirror image of the left…
It is all depressing because this whole covid pandemic has divided families, friends, churches, and even political allies. Many of us have lost business because of lockdowns and mandates, it is a civil war without firing guns. It will take many years for this country to heal but we are far from that right now.
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ThePowersThatBe do not want this country to heal…
I guess some people believe this “stupid or evil” about people who take the vaccine and I can see how people would take some of the comments to mean that.
I do not believe it. Some may read that into my comments like “Pureblood” or “Clot-shot”. My arguments are against the vaccine. NOT the vaccinated. IT IS NONE of my business what course of medical treatment people decide to take.
But I am really sick of hearing the medical profession, Big Pharma and Big Government telling me and other UnVaxxed. to “take the shot” “take the shot”.
Worse, they want to MANDATE the poison death shots. It is hardly a “choice” the way it’s being pushed. And I don’t think that those who take injections are giving their *informed* consent. Not with Big Harma hiding the ingredients.
It is a fact that Big Pharma criminally opposed any good treatment for the rona.
Out of fear you trusted and gave them more power to impose their jabs on us.
Don’t think you won’t be judged for supporting criminals with your personal decisions.
I am only in the same team with people who share my moral values.
The PowersThatBe are doing almost everything they can to scapegoat the Unvaxxed, the Purebloods…
Outsiders
Outcasts
Outlaws
His ratings must be falling. It came off slightly better than a Kamala rebuild video.
There are several very good books out now on that explain in horrific detail what went and continues to go on, especially RFK Jr’s on Fauci, and Breggin’s COVID-19 and the Global Predators: We Are the Prey (or similar). There’s Pandemia by Alex Berenson. There’s all kinds of information being pumped out by the front line docs, and Malone, and Navarro for crying out loud. Is PDJT simply ignoring all of it?
Man you’re smug in your criticisms. So maybe make your argument as opposed to referencing the works/exposes of others. What in your glorious eminent wisdom allows you to impart upon us what we should all plainly see simply because you see it that way. Again, you seem incapable of seeing the nuance that exists in most cases (ie where reason must be employed). Do you believe that all Trump voters are anti-vaxx as you and I are? Do you believe Trump wants to run again for president? Do you believe that the 10 or 20 or so of you who are lambasting him on here for his position are the majority? Do you even necessarily believe they’re not trolls? Are you actually a troll? Do you believe that reasonable people take medical advice from him? Is his position causing harm to reasonable people? Show your work.
Who’s mandating it? Trump?
Stupid…..those folks were never Trump fans if that is truly their position
Just reading the comments here, one would definitely assume that this is a anti-Trump website.
Or it simply proves how divisive the President’s comments are. I personally know more people who have died from the jab than COVID.
I personally was almost killed by Regeneron due to anaphylaxis. 4 pills of hcq cured covid for me. The President’s statements are troubling.
Yet many who have taken the shots have had no issues. It is a decision on personal healthcare that each have the right to make. Just as the unvaxed should not be ridiculed so should the vaxed not be ridiculed. It works both ways.
Would I prefer PTrump speak up about the therapeutics as well as the vaccines? Yes. However, he is a lightening rod for every leftist media hack out there who would immediately turn his comments into hysterical and false statements. I still think he’d be better off stating the truths, but it’s his decision.
People will have to decide how important the President’s opinion on this subject is to their loyalty to him. So be it.
Not many people are talking about the fact that at least 50% of the injections are placebos. I suspect it’s actually more like 85% because I can’t imagine they could ramp up production for worldwide injection of people with genetic experimental therapy in such volume. Be that as it may, big Pharma has admitted that at least half of the shots are saline solution only so those who got lucky and did not have a reaction very probably have had a placebo shot.
This is a long-term Russian Roulette deal where you are not going to be able to get lucky every single time because they intend to keep injecting you forever with whatever they feel like putting into your body.
Australia has ordered enough of this to inject each of their citizens 14 more times. Think about that for a minute. They don’t intend for you ever to be done with it.
And yet you fail to mention That he didn’t coerce you into taking it…
But the current Illegitimate Fraud is giving it his all to force it upon you.
Constructive criticism should be welcome.
Instead of hyping the vax he should have spent time on therapeutics. As long as the vax is the only solution we will be stuck with mandates. He could have opened the envelope but instead hunkered down in his foxhole leaving us to take the bullets.
He had an opportunity to shake the box and blew it. What he said was a nothingburger and just came off as him tooting his own horn.
Please…you are really getting annoying with your crying and whining, whining, screaming, stomping your feet and jumping up and down…
“I am Right.” !
“President Trump did not say or do exactly what I wanted him to say or do and I don’t like him anymore and I am going to whine, cry and scream and jump up and down and holler how wrong he is and I hate him!”
Feel Better?
Now, how does this attitude really help anyone around the world?
Did it solve the problem?
Oh please. The mirror is reflecting.
In a lot of instances it has been a life and death issue ……. That matters
Therapeutics are the solution now and everyone with a voice and a platform should be speaking up about it. Other essential points are, no vaccines for kids, and stop persecuting dissenting doctors!
Constructive criticism is indeed welcome, but I hope you know it must be reciprocal.
Your statement about Trump being pro mandate because he didn’t say explicitly in this interview that he wasn’t pro mandate is egregiously in error, and very, very reckless.
The Candace Owen clip shown here on this site clearly features Donald Trump saying he is against mandates. He has also said this repeatedly at his rallies. So, this point of yours is clearly, and probably willfully false.
Also, the President worked very hard to bring therapeutics to the fore. Would Biden have done that? Would Fauci have done that?
The problem of availability of therapeutics is a scandal Trump has nothing to do with. The medical machinery of the United States has been shamefully colluding and conspiring to bar these, and were also aided by Communist Media Inc. in order to denigrate and ridicule their use.
I doubt anybody with a public megaphone to express opinions would (or should) make medical recommendations to the general public. It would be asinine to do so due to liability vulnerabilities. Granted there is currently a waiver exemption in place for these vaccines, but certainly not for therapeutics, and absolutely not for third parties to be egging people on to use, specifically speaking, therapeutics, as opposed to other treatments.
The President has a traditional (and correct) approach to medical remedies and procedures, i.e. to foster research and development of products and procedures, and let people make their choices. It’s nonsense that a president of the United States should be advocating or encouraging, forcing or mandating that people take vaccines against their will, or to use any other medical product or service, or to undergo any medical procedure.
However, one point of yours is quite valid, namely the critical importance of therapeutics in ending the lockdown culture. However, states are free, nonetheless, to be asinine in this regard, and a president would be powerless to stop it.
So what else would you have liked the President to say?
bertdilbert’s bitterness is palpable, so I’ll add this additional comment.
I myself have felt bitterness about the President’s decision to allow the Nation to accept the crapola of the Fourteen Days to Slow the Spread, and all that followed. Those with good memories will remember that I went against the grain of comments (and was pummeled by others) on this site because I saw too clearly where this socialist wet dream was leading. I also thought that President Trump had been so magnificent in countering the madness of the Left that I felt he had the guts to stop this transparent insanity. This is something that I continue to regret to this day. It is, nonetheless, a mental error (one that I lapse into continually) to expect that Donald Trump, whose presidency had been so wildly successful, would risk an election defeat over an issue that he had no clear expertise in. It would have been fool-hearty to politically posture on the subject of a crisis that could have so easily exploded in his face and turned a certain victory into an upset loss. In the end, it was simply wiser to let this pandemic crap play out, get reelected and then use his presidency to set America firmly on the right course.
A lovely couple I know had lost a young son to cancer just days after he began to practice medicine. At a chance meeting in a coffee shop, the couple explained their emotional ordeal and thanked me for my note of condolence. Then the wife said something that is applicable to the topic we are discussing. She said that besides the emotional strain that this premature death of her son had caused, she also had to deal with great anger against her wonderful husband (who was sitting right there listening!) because he had always solved every single problem throughout their married life, and did so with such marvelous success, but that now, with the tragic death of their son, could do nothing to change that sad reality. According to her, this was her greatest challenge: overcoming the disappointment that her wonderful husband was not really omnipotent.
Does this not apply in a way to this new variant of Trump Derangement Syndrome??
First, Trump did not lose the election, it was clearly stolen. Anything he did in office was not responsible for his loss. No matter what, they were not going to allow Trump to have a second term. It is useless to imagine had he done something different there would be a different outcome in the election.
I was one of first if not the first to come out against Trump’s position of going to war with the virus. Like you I took heavy slings and arrows. I called it Trump’s biggest boondoggle. It would be the worst business decision of his life.
I excused Trump due to his age and the large number of friends he would have that fell into the at-risk population and could not fault him for that.
While I continued to take flack for my position, a growing number of posters came to the same conclusion. Within about a week the sentiment drastically changed as churches were closed.
When the story of the mark of the beast is written, Trump will figure prominently as the one who rushed to market the tool that was used to enslave us.
Agree.
When the story of the mark of the beast is written, Trump will figure prominently as the one who rushed to market the tool that was used to enslave us.
Yes, that’s how I see it too.
Here are the glasses I see through. I live in a blue city where you now have to show proof of vax in order to eat out. The ultimate goal is the passport. The passport will require a vax. The best way to fight the vax passport is to show a vax is not required due to treatments which dramatically reduce the risk of the virus.
If Trump wants to take credit for the weapon we are being beaten with, that is his prerogative. He could offer up that Ivermectin is being successfully used and question as to why it is not available here.
Trump is a private figure now. He owes us nothing. I have no expectation at this point he is going to change his vax tune. As you can see many have a problem with this. Trump can resolve it or not.
Sickens me.
Yep, how will Trump ever get the pivotal CTH voting bloc if he takes the vaccine and even (gasp!) took a booster?
The controversy is not about whether or not Trump or others have taken the “vaccine”.
The controversy is about Trump continuing to urge people to be “vaccinated” with a “vaccine” that has been proven to kill and injure folks.
Exactly. That is just it, it isn’t a vaccine, and it is controversial for a man that so many love and admire to be telling people it is ok. In another lifetime the shot would have been shelved.
That arguably is most certainly not responsible for saving tens of millions of lives.
We’re discussing one of the few topics where many of us disagree with the best president that I’ve voted for. Anti-Trump website? That’s hilarious.
People on this website who are espousing this anti-Trump vaccine BS are playing in the hands of the enemy within.
That is the enemy who worked really hard to divide this country, bring us into the biggest election steal in the history of our country and are now continuing the divisiveness so the CCP take total control of our country by the election of 2022.
If you cannot see the campaign that is now playing out, then there is no hope for winning the War.
“People on this website who are” hell bent on espousing nothing but “feel good” crap and refuse to see and understand the truth of the matter “are playing in the hands of the enemy”.
Here it is worded as simply as I can:
THE CLOT-SHOT IS POISON. IT KILLS AND MAIMS PEOPLE. EVERYTIME TRUMP URGES PEOPLE TO GET “VACCINATED” WITH THE CLOT-SHOT, TRUMP LOSES A PORTION OF HIS BASE OF SUPPORT.
IF TRUMP CONTINUES TO TOUT THE CLOT-SHOT, BY 2024, HIS SUPPORT WILL BE NIL.
Like it or lump it, that is the truth of what is going on.
Call me a “troll”, call me a “never-Trumper”, call me anything you so choose, but calling names is not gonna fix the situation.
Well said, Tojak.
Perhaps they are just critical thinkers that can look at all sides to see things differently, and perhaps they just have a different opinion from you? Oh the Horror!
Do you not see that the CCP introduced the virus as a bioweapon, and as a means to destroying liberty in the West and instituting one-world communist government? That Trump was duped by this, believing his great friend Xi would never do such a thing, that in the face of such a “crisis” Fauci and the other corrupt swampocrats would act in defense of the American public interest? Trump can’t see “the enemy within.” He thinks they are his friends.
Thanks for the sit-rep, General.
Not me, I am PRO TRUMP still have my bumper sticker from 2015. Not going to throw the baby out with the bathwater, but I think he has a Pro MRNA vaccine problem.
Best case: it all just goes away. Worst case: problems with the vaccine become too numerous for the FJB admin to hide. In which case President Trump will take a big hit.
Promises made, promises kept. : )
I think it’s more of an anti vaccine site or reaction ……
Many many people have seen up close and personal the harm these shots have done to their loved ones …hence the criticism of president Trumps continued support of a shot that is hurting people … it matters to the people who have lost loved ones and its not about President Trump it’s about what he has and has not said about this matter
and the interview in full with Candace Owens was troubling
Promise made, promises kept.
A rarity from inhabitants of dc…
Many are trolls, chasing the dream of separating PDJT from his supporters.
You wouldn’t recognize a real troll if he/she walked up and slapped your face.
I’d like to know if he was back in office, is he going to be run over by bureaucrats again on the pandemic or anything for that matter?
DeSantis seems to be more forthright in keeping control on how his state is run re: Covid.
I don’t want any Fauci’s running the show again.
I am also disturbed that he is well aware of the early treatments, Dr. Kory said he did get ivermectin in the hospital, and yes, he also got Regeneron’s antibodies. The Frontline doctors also said, they did talk to his people or something in a podcast, he is well aware of their protocol. They did try to help.
There’s too much silence in people we’re supposed to trust, people are needlessly dying.
Fauci cost Trump his second term by killing the economy.
Trump’s greatest regret is likely that he did not dress Fauci down in public and tell him the while he valued his opinion on medical matters, lockdowns and shutting down the economy were above his pay grade and it would not happen on his watch.
I will go out on a limb and say that whoever is pulling Biden’s strings will realize that Fauci is keeping things shut down with every new variant and dopamine hit of power he experiences, and they need to get the economy out of the ditch to avoid wholesale slaughter at the polls in 2022. Therefore they will ease him out. I am surprised they haven’t done so already. I thought the reveal that Fauci funded gain of function research was the start of that process. Maybe the revelations of emails between Fauci and Collins coordinating suppression of discussion of the advisability of lockdowns is step 2?
I’ll rethrow this idea out here, i think it does help see why PDJT does somethign we dont like.
A) democrats, the true voters, were petrified of the virus and wouldnt leave their home without a bad (edit – bag) over their head
PDJT is the President of Democrat voters and Republican voter. he did the rare of caring for the dem voters that most others presidents wouldnt. because they arent for AMERICA.
1) The vaccine – helped those petrified dem voters come back out and try capitalism again. and saved them from Venezuela via the Great Reset.
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and honestly some Democrat voters today are seeing PDJT as not so bad.
Trump is EXTREMELY undisciplined in his speaking style. Those of us who like him can handle this. Those who don’t go completely crazy over it.
Not once did he use a prime time address to look directly into the camera and say, “Stop running around with bags over your heads you stupid snowflake candy ass left wing robots. You’re gonna be fine. Snap out of it.”
Would have helped a ton.
PT45 won the 2020 election!
Maybe they think they have the elections taken care of (again)
How do you convince a stupid public when they see people dying? The born and bred nihilists, children of Republicans, spoiled brats, and narcissists? They saw thousands of elderly, and unfit dying. They didn’t have the brain to realize it was also FLU season, and they don’t have the brain to realize we are now once again in FLU season. The media and greedy pharma have attributed every death to COVID. When was the last time they talked about the 10 million deaths a year due to smoking? Its a political game and they OWN the narrative.
Death by Protocol pays quite well if you can sandbag, censor and generally prevent the adoption of early treatment in the general physician population.
$13,000 per patient-covid association during hospitalization.
$39,000 per invasive intubation of covid-associated patients during hospitalization
Then clean up the mess and scrub the evidence with kidney failure inducing experimental medications.
As a matter of policy, who put this into motion? Who wrote the legislation and policies that created the underlying situation?
You want the truth about the hopelessness Trump’s role, read the Scott Atlas book. The entire medical/medschool/public health establishment needs a vigorous weaselectomy.
https://www.amazon.com/Plague-upon-Our-House-Destroying/dp/B09G76TKRM/ref=sr_1_2?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIv6KO0IT89AIV7RvUAR1yBAM9EAMYASAAEgKSZ_D_BwE&hvadid=241924497555&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9024242&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=5858875056071247326&hvtargid=kwd-790460045&hydadcr=24664_10400965&keywords=scott+atlas&qid=1640335196&sr=8-2
It’s gaslighting. And I think there are many who sense Trump is gaslighting us also with his insistence on the effectiveness of the vaccines, and touting their safety. Not speaking out on getting early treatments.
I would have thought the Beagle story would have been mini-Mengele demise since America does love her pets.
Bill Clinton had the good sense when he was going too far left to bring it back center so he could win a second term, these idiots in charge are just too greedy, and have the fear of it they don’t destroy America now their chance will be lost. The Beast, aka Hillary was to have it all wrapped up by now, but Trump put a kink in their plans. Based on what the red-head from hell says I don’t foresee them changing their tune. On the plus side a ton of them are not running for re-election so they have a clue, but we still are a long way off from the election, anything can happen.
Corrupt election officials and judges (e.g. Penn S.C.) prevented a presidential election.
Have been thinking of you…. Very glad to see your name pop up. How are you feeling today, Kaco?
his typing is a positive indicator =]
Her! Elle est une vrai femme!
Hey, Sarah, I missed this last night! Thank you! I’m sure you’ve read my replies above! I’m more hopeful I won’t end up in the hospital but am concerned about lung infection.
“Silence, like a cancer, grows”… Simon and Garfunkle
After everything they did to injure him, doesn’t he have good reason?
He supports the vaccine. Everyone should have that choice. Millions don’t.
But does he support mandates? Is the vaccine costing millions of people their livelihoods or are the mandates? Did the gun kill people or did the shooter kill people?
Unplug your ears…HE says over and over and over again: “I do not support mandates”.
But that is just not good enough.
Give it a rest.
He has stated many times he is against mandates and for personal choice.
which part of that simple standpoint don’t you understand?
Exactly.
1 thing I know is… every elderly and young person can be slaughterd in Communism – and without the vaccine we would be WAY PAST lockdown. and into something that looks like the Presidental Thread image.
There is no right answer with the mandated vaccine crap, or with the assault on our country trying to lock it down forever.
stick together if you can. this is the Fog.
For all reading here tonight, please consider this possibility…
This ‘plannedemic’ was supposed to be for Hillary Clinton to ‘manage’.
The United States were supposed to be a gift to the UN ((Barack Obama, UN President (funny title), remember?)), because the victory of the American colonies against Britain created the NEED for the Global Reset (The ‘up until then’ global dictatorships were shocked and needed to take back the worldwide serfdom the USA ruined).
Donald Trump and Party got in the way. They panicked. This is what I wrote to friends tonight:
“Stick it out to the end of the interview. Things are much clearer now.
President Trump had a very bad decision or an even worse decision to make. He made the correct one.
Oh…IMHO”.
DJT had to find a quick solution to the entire planet’s citizens being killed off by shutdown. If we had been in Hillary’s world, most of us would have been dead within about three years.
Our economies would have certainly collapsed.
The Chinese would surely have come up with a final solution of one shot to “cure” people. Soylent Green territory. As a brilliant strategy against total destruction within one to three years, PT challenged big pharma, fought the FDA for EUA and made sure this was a consolidated event. The only unfortunate issue is that it seems the EUA has a protocol that allows 3 to 6 month trials, so big pharma gets away with no long term trials.
Bad versus Worse.
“ I saved a lot of lives.” PDJT
Thoughts?
yes.
What kills more people?
a) Communism via perpetual lockdown
or
b) vaccines taken by choice
the vaccine ended the lockdown and Emergency Powers done by GOVERNORS not the President.
Indeed, WB! This is why he wanted the most vulnerable and choice. He had to make a decision.
this is the sick decision i’m assuming General had to make.. knowing deaths are coming either way.
at least he took the shot too, thats putting himself in the same risk as he would others.
Damn right brother!
Remember the timeline. Patents on the ‘formula’ virus and the mRNA shots were in place prior to the ‘event’ in March 2020.
Fauci said it would take five years to create a ‘vaccine’. President Trump ‘trumped’ their scheme. He found the way to pressure the FDA.
PJT used their evil EUA, and PT turned their evil carve-out against them.
I believe this is why the pharmaceuticals did not want to announce until after the election. They all knew they had alternatives at the ready!
They were apoplectic about a positive event they were forced into, played like villains, and President Trump KNEW! He pretty much said so.
I am also not sure PT took a shot, but Regeneron? Almost like his doctor knew? Not certain.
hell yea
imagine 5 years of Lockdown in America. we would Venezuela
Yes, this was the really horrible alternative. I believe PT blocked it. Hopefully.
But Ohio was already out of lockdown mid June of 2020 and restaurants open. It was the coastal blue states that were bad. I remember people online from certain states finally coming out of their bunkers spring of 2021, I felt like saying, I forgot you were living in the Eastern Bloc!
President Trump said that he was taking HCQ as a precaution.
OMG, Whiteboard!!!!
I just realized that according to FDA EUA, if the pharmaceuticals had an mRNA fake vaccine shot for a formulated mRNA virus from January to March 2020 (or even before), they would have had the EUA approval from April to July/September 2020. This is why PDJT kept to HIS timeline!
This is the reason PDJT kept saying that the ‘vaccine’ would be coming out soon. It seems as though the FDA and big pharm illegally stalled an EUA. Alas, they stalled until after the election in November.
Am I crazy with my timeline? anyone?
Here’s a novel thought. No lockdown. Head for natural herd immunity.
Lockdowns don’t work. Flattened curves only prolong the virus.
This entire thing was botched.
I agree WSB. Up until today I too had been concerned about PDJT’s pro-vaxx stance, even while he (thankfully) insists on individuals’ freedom of choice to get jabbed or not. Then I watched a video and read an article (different sources) about President Trump’s “life-saving stance” on the quackcines (my term for the covid vaxx).
Light bulb went off – I now fully understand his words and apparent position.
Watch video linked below. If you want to skip his explanation of the coming huge change in our currency, skip up to approximately 30:45 and watch to the end (about 30 minutes). This is Clif High who has been posting videos for a few years and has been very informative about the globalists long-planned plot and moves against most of humanity. He explains in detail what is behind President Trump’s statements about the covid vaccines, especially in the recent interview with Bill O’Reilly..
https://www.bitchute.com/video/WVUaNNbB02yA/
watching..
first sentence was smart
moving 2 groups to convergence.
a)protecting Dems because they are Americans (wouldnt leave home petrified of virus
b)supporting Reps that want freedom (get the damn vaccine make it by choice and move out of lockdown)
TY! GB, nice to see you! I cannot reply or even find responses unless I open my office (different machines, so excuse me if I do not respond in a future convo!
Will watch!
Not buying that Q nonsense.
To paraphrase “he saved hundreds of millions because they would have died in the 10-yr lockdown until 2030 by allowing millions to die now”.
Really?
Wow! I agree 100%, WSB. You have stated this better and in greater depth than I have yet seen. I believe you are correct.
THANK YOU!
The Left wants to divide us on this, and I for one have harbored some brief doubts against Trump over this.
Importantly, Trump can’t explain this.
And as Whiteboard notes below: “at least he took the shot too, that’s putting himself in the same risk as he would others.”
We actually don’t know for sure if he took the shot. I suspect a lot of the DC crowd claim to have taken it, but didn’t.
True
TY, Veg GOP!
Then spread the word. Just copy and paste my note up top. Send to others with SD’s link.
My comments may not be 100% accurate but at least others may consider.
I truly believe that PT had a horrible choice to make. This was a preplanned event. A horrible one.
The vaccine, so-called, was in their back pocket the whole time. There was no actual vaccine development in the few months of Warp Speed.
The bioweapon jab was as pre-planned as the pandemic it was paired with. The patents that pre-date the pandemic show us this.
It was called a vaccine to make people want to take it. The great success of the Trump economy, and the prospect of 4 more years of that, forced the One Worlders to accelerate their depopulation plan, which President Trump was aware of.
Already have, WSB, before seeing your reply! Merry Christmas and God bless you!
I don’t believe Hillary would have had to face covid, at least to the degree that PTrump did. China handed the left/globalists the perfect gift to get rid of the thorn in their sides-PTrump-and his millions of supporters once and for all. It worked. So far anyway. But we are still here and we know what they did.
The end of the story hasn’t been written on all this yet. Imo.
The 2021 was a Reset. Hillary was supposed to be in office to commandeer over this panic. See Event 201 or The Rockefeller Paper in 2010.
https://thefreedomarticles.com/amp/2010-rockefeller-foundation-paper-plan-exploit-pandemic/
J’ai te me manque! Merveille te voir ma soeur!
Maquis!!!!!!
I so love to see YOU!!!! Je t’aime, Maquis! March on!
She was supposed to win.
The EU/UN/WEF/Davos/Uniparty sycophants of Mr. Global went ahead and made their moves anyway; perhaps even accelerated the timeline. Let’s see if the can rehabilitate HRC to replace Heelsup and replace the Pederast in Chief.
PLANDEMIC the movies. Mikki Willis. Watch ’em all.
Except Moderna had gotten the spike protein from the Chinese before the virus hit the U.S. or something like that. The vaccine was already in the works.
No, this was already planned out, the money making via Big Pharma was indeed, planned.
DeSantis does not have the gravitas to be a transformational president. Stick with Trump.
We don’t need a transformational president in 2024. We need a common sense president who cares more about American liberty than he does about his own ego. DeSantis will fit that bill just fine.
Your slip is showing.
We have mixed feelings over this leader, with his flaws. Trump’s appeal largely comes from his stubbornness. As long as he is stubborn with the right people, (such as International thugs), we will look the other way. His failure to acknowledge the danger in these vaccines may not play well. But at least he will allow us to be free. Perhaps we have a Biblical precedence for this. ArtaXerxes did not protect the Jews, but he issued a decree that they could defend themselves (Book of Esther). Maybe that’s what we have here.
if the vaccine is dangerous. the LOCKDOWN returns to “save us”
if PDJT supports the vaccines until they stupidly approve ivermectin and HCQ under their cute packaged labels (FDA APPROVED TODAY) then its CHECKMATE.
no more lockdowns.
a lot of people suffered. more people would have died under a perpetual lockdown that ended capitalism and brought in Ruling from the Top and deciding who is essential or not.
they would have KILLED EVERYONE.
I think it’s a false choice – lockdowns or vaccines.
How’bout neither?
Protect the vulnerable with short term quarantine if in an area where there are outbreaks, make hcq and ivermectin available to the general public both as prophylaxis and early treatment, and voila! Herd immunity!
Oh wait…no one would have gotten obscenely rich at our expense – literally, had we followed such a simple and effective protocol.
Silly me.
the democrat and RINO Governors wanted a lockdown to end capitalism.
none of those governors were interested in saving or protecting 1 single life.
the court was the only place to end their DeClared Emergency giving them Constitutional Police Powers to lockdown. the powers ended when a vaccine was available.
unless you think the people in those states would rise up and end it.. domesticated.
Well, and why was T rump mad at Kemp for ending the lockdown in Georgia?
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/22/politics/trump-pence-georgia-governor-brian-kemp/index.html
Yeah, I remember that and being disturbed by it.
“I think it’s a false choice – lockdowns or vaccines.
How’bout neither?“
That’s not how Whiteboard rolls. There is no possible alternative to Hegelian dialect that man is able to consider.
So why hasn’t Hamman been lynched yet?
There is a Telegram channel called They Say It’s Rare that collates Twitter tweets about first-hand vaccine injury accounts (before they are censored and taken down). I wish President Trump would spend 30 minutes reading those anecdotes before speaking again.
It is difficult to sit in two chairs at the same time.
Maybe not so difficult for a Gemini – the twins.
I take it you have never witnessed a grocery store where the shoppers driving electric buggies have their buttocks overhang both sides of the seat by half-a-foot.
Only for skinny folks… folks with a big butt can easily do it.
“… he believes [the vaccines] are of benefit”
It’s not controversial. It’s just wrong. The injections are ineffective and dangerous. The system that created them, much of which was in place prior to the formal creation of Warp Speed, is a terrible basis for safe drug development.
There is no question in my mind that we – and the world -would be better off had Warp Speed not happened and we instead had focused on treating the vulnerable population with therapeutics that were known to be effective by summer of 2020.
Trump saw some of that correct path but unfortunately was steered away from it. Knowing now that he was right about that, I wish he would champion it now as he did then.
Along with the FBI, the FDA and it’s Pharma- philic relatives must be drastically reformed. Unadulterated praise for Warp Speed won’t promote that.
Dr. Malone, who is often looked upon favorably by many here, also states in one of his many videos that the vaccines are safe and effective. President Trump is caught between a rock and a hard place. Personally, I wish he would stop talking about the vaccines and focus on the damage of the forced mandates.
i agree. the videos are promoted enough of when he does say No mandate, or when he did say no mandate at the oreilly event.
its just that we dont control the media funnel (Nunes Book). maybe I should try to post videos of him saying no mandate.
Dr Malone has recently said the covid injections are not really good for anyone especially children
I forgot which show but it was recent, last week.
It’s all a matter of personal risk assessment IMO.
Job of the medical profession was to present a fair assessment of risk, and allow freedom of choice thereafter.
These shots were a classic case of PDJT’s “right to try” and should have been confined to that – no liability would have been understandable.
I believe that, once the problems manifested themselves, that PDJT in his 2nd term would have fired Faulsi et al, done the right thing, and pushed the therapeutics hard.
But I guess we’ll never know for sure.
He should never have locked down. He had the chance to be the greatest President. He blew it.
👎
Remember, the Democrats and news media argued successfully that lockdowns were a state and local issue under Article 10. President Trump couldn’t prevent the lockdowns.
the Governors locked down, not him.
hope that helps
BS!
He didn’t blow it, he was backed into a corner, his own VP worked against him, not to mention all of DC and the media, the whole world. What he is blowing is his opportunity now to do some repair work.
You seem to labor under the misapprehension that the President is a King.
He will probably be gone in two years because he vaccinated, so he should just go away
SMDH!
OMG!
Are you God?
Now, tell us how you feel about the illegitimate fraud squatting in the WH.
Trump should get off the vaccine bad wagon. Just stop talking about it. He is losing a great deal of support.
He should point out he was happy with the job his Whitehouse did in trying to get a vaccine but is disappointed that they don’t work as advertised. Beat up Big Pharma and talk about treatments instead.
Remind people how the media made fun of him for trying to come up with treatments. They even accused him of telling us to drink bleach! He needs to change the way he saying things.
he may now, that the FDA did the checkmate move, and approved pills to take the place of vaccines.
today approved. today. no more vaccines exist. no more lockdowns possible. we are simply in a election year now. not a communist country (via perpetual lockdown where all capitalism ended) killing me an you for the stuff we say on this site.
I like where you’re going with this, WB.
And at the same moment some of the honest doctors are predicting the Moronic will be a Christmas gift of herd immunity…
the pills are under an EUA….. testing has not even begun to be completed….only short term limited testing….
The Merck product has serious issues as it is a potent mutagen and can end up being toxic in the longer term…. effect upon the virus is unknown…. the drug wil make it mutate…. into what is unknown … the same goes for human cells as well….
The pfizer pill is a protease inhibitor that interferes with rna transcription within the infected cell – but testing on it is early as well…
I wouldn’t go that far.. the new pills are very likely another deadly alternative that we don’t want or need, but I do appreciate your optimism.
I think the cat is out of the bag as far as mRNA injections go, but I don’t know if the cows have come home or the fat lady is singing just yet.
Send him an email and explain your thoughts to him.
He loves hearing from his fans.
There it is!
pure evil:
Pfizer is Buying a Cardiovascular Biopharma Company for $6.7Bn. | NYPlace Media
Pfizer is knowingly maiming people with their vaccines and then using that inside information to sell them more drugs for the injuries caused by their first drugs.
Sadly, duly re-elected President Trump now sounds publicly no different than Dr. Franken-Fauci. The difference is this: President Trump truly believes the “vaccines” are great. Fauci also says they’re great, but understands the entire evil agenda behind them. President Trump remains clueless.
President Trump is sincere–and sincerely wrong.
Big Pharma is using that sincerity to push these poisons and the poisonous agenda behind them.
That’s the problem. The President does not see this as enemy action. He will not even mention VAERS deaths. He doesn’t comprehend how this was part and parcel of the Coup against him–and against us. He doesn’t recognize his enemies–or ours. If elected a third time–and allowed to serve–he would fire Fauci but leave intact the entire Vaccine Industrial Complex and the Bio-Medical Security State-apparatus. That is a HUGE problem.
It’s not Warp Speed, Mr. President, when they’ve been planning this for years.
I love the man, but this is unacceptable.
Nor can it be glossed over by citing Mandates.

Money First, Depopulation Later
But Money First
Rest in the Vine: Pfizer = Murder, Inc.: #COVIDNurembergNow
its only money first because of Greed. they should of done depopulation first. to late now.
…and you DON’T think he knows this. Since when did you get in the ring and take the blows? As President, he stood up for all Americans and accomplished many good things for us. President Trump can take care of himself and shoulder his own burdens. You don’t like his position, fine…deal with it. ..you do you!
“ If elected a third time–and allowed to serve–he would fire Fauci but leave intact the entire Vaccine Industrial Complex and the Bio-Medical Security State-apparatus. That is a HUGE problem.”
I think dismantling the Medical Industrial Complex is up to We the People. All the medical professionals that have been rejected for jab noncompliance are very likely to become part of a new and better system.
Diseases should be addressed by seeking the cause of the imbalance and giving the body the nutrients it needs. Drugs certainly have their place, but the “pill for every ill” approach is a poor excuse for the real practice of medicine. Doctors and nurses know they are killing patients with their hospital protocols. Shun these individuals.
In many countries under communism, they created islands of sanity. They created subsystems that made sense and functioned. It was part of how Poland was able to throw off the oppression. Only the people could do it. There is great power in refusing to submit and comply with tyranny.
I agree. We must dismantle the Apparatus. That’s why we cannot have someone in there actively protecting them.
Please impart your glorious leadership upon us JS. We all await your approval with baited breath. When is your first rally? Do you intend to subject yourself and your family to public scrutiny and desecration for the good of your country? Please expound on your glorious plans for us, your faithful MAGA subjects. A Trumpless MAGA movement? Who coined that phrase again you putz?
I view it as PDJT is a huge weapon. and disarming us is not helpful to us. its almost threatening
“We all await your approval with baited breath.”
Is your breath baited (sic) with worms or minnows?
Just so we’re clear here, are some of you asserting that if Trump spoke out against the “vaccines” the mandates would stop? Everyone in the regime would just throw their hands up and say “darn it, you know he’s right. Let’s just stop the madness.” If so you’re more insane than the commies. If Trump spoke out against the mandates the effort would be escalated a million fold. Were y’all even in the country during his term? TDS people. It’s real. He’s just saving us from it again. You doubters have lost your minds.
I’ve followed CTH microscopically for the last six years and I’m familiar with the regular posters
during this time.
However every time President Trump takes a supposedly controversial position on an issue out come the new posters
with generally one objective, to weaken DJT’s base. You can’t trust Trump, it’s over, he’s finished, they mostly chorus.
And their next target is the CTH.
If you’ve become a doubter, just follow Sundance. Simple as that.
And to hell with the trolls.
No shit!
Exactly 💯
Thank you Bruce! It is not possible that I could agree with you more than I do. Trump has proven his mettle and earned his reputation on the field of battle against the beast. The trolls and doubters? Not so much.
And by error of omission I left out Sundance. Sundance has also done as Trump has done with actions and not just words. I know who I’m inclined to trust.
And its right in line with the washingtonpost narrative 12 hours ago..
critical thinkers are an enemy of this hive system. we dont see and then regurgitate. we debate
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-becomes-vaccine-advocate-despite-his-base-e2-80-99s-skepticism/ar-AAS5QPP
A lot has changed over the past several years. Many people who never would have questioned any doctor (or Republican leadership) do so now.
And more critical thinking and individual decision making is a good thing.
President Trump has far better intuition than average. I don’t like what he is saying about the “vaccines” which I consider bs — but I love the way Trump is making his enemies’ heads spin, and activating TDS, to enable TDS-afflicted persons to be able to question the “jabs”. Maybe. We’ll see
yes, we definitely question the entire medical system now.
a owner of a hospital can fully control every doctor there IS TERRIFYING and was never known to me.
doctors repeating the same salesmen’s pitch about a product verbatim – was terrifying to see.
he won’t be finished by this because there is no alternative
and the elections are going to be stolen again because nothing has changed.
Most of these efforts are fortunately very transparent.
They are not sending their best.
“If you’ve become a doubter, just follow Sundance. Simple as that.”
Life is so much easier when you let others do your thinking for you, isn’t it?
I won’t get the clot shot but don’t care who does, don’t wear a mask but don’t care who does. That’s pretty much the outlook around these parts.
One of the main issues I’ve had is doctors declining to treat their symptomatic patients!?! Why not treat sick patients?! And since when are doctors not allowed to treat their patients with off-label meds?! What happened to the Right to Try law?! Why did natural immunity get thrown out the window?! PT45 didn’t do this, Governors, officials, bureaucrats, CCP-CoC=UniParty Media Mob and BigPharma did. Why has Governor DeSantis been the only governor to step up and consider/help ALL his people instead of running around like a carnival barker hawking just tests and “vaccines”? It’s all nuts.
I’m still shocked that hospital administrators have the balls to not adhere to court orders demanding Ivermectin be used when there is Right to Try, thanks to President Trump.
I know! And doctors not treating symptomatic patients blows my mind! Since when do doctors not treat sick people? Is it mainly people whose doctors don’t treat them when they become symptomatic who are ending up in the hospital?
They are facing loss of all licensing and credentials and the ability to remain doctors.
The honest independent ones are the real heroes. But it’s yet another arm of the new medical dictatorship.
That’s my belief “is it mainly people whose doctors don’t treat them when they become symptomatic who are ending up in the hospital”?
I’ve thought this all along – as soon as doctors such as the Front Line doctors and Dr. Zelenko, and all the other doctors we’ve come to hear about, Dr. McCullough another – stepped up to let us know, some very early on, how they were treating their patients, who were not only being mostly kept out of the hospital but largely surviving.
I had Covid this past January and essentially was told “call me or 911 if you start having breathing difficulties”, but otherwise was told there was nothing that could be done. Besides my personal experience, I know of several others treated the same way, and the same story is/has been told all over alternative media.
it seems that you have to care a bit more
the people who are taking the shot are the same that allow doctors to decline treatment
no treatment for you!