**BUMPED x2**
As the impacts of the various vaccination mandates take shape, it is worth a review of the current status as it impacts you and your family on a local basis.
As noted by a reader in Washington state, the cleaving of society on vaccinated status is having an unusual impact on many regions even within individual states.
As one anecdotal report is told, the eastern side of Washington state is essentially functioning as before the vaccination mandate; while the western side is seeing a substantial breakdown in local civic society.
Mandates by local officials are creating issues for local services. Local police, fire and first responders are leaving their jobs, creating issues for those in the leftist side of Washington state. Meanwhile the eastern, or more conservative side of the state, is relatively not impacted.
In another cleaving anecdote one business owner in southern California has told a rebel alliance member to discontinue the use of services from a vendor who does not share the leftist political perspectives of the owner; while other right-minded business owners (in the same industry) are looking specifically to gain advantage by seeking out vendors who are skilled, stable and independent.
As would be expected, the vaccination cleaving is creating two unique classes of workers and owners/operators. Those with the best expertise, skillset and work ethic all fall into the group who are more independently minded and not prone to the inherent peer pressure created by the vaccine mandate.
While the data is all still raw in this new cleaved socioeconomic environment, it does appear -in the aggregate- the unvaxxed are better workers, better problem solvers and carry a stronger work ethic. The vaxxed workforce, owners and operators appear less than.
This brings up an interesting dynamic that is still unfolding amid various regions. So the questions posed are these:
What do you see in your town, hamlet, city, neighborhood and/or region?
How are the various vaccine mandates impacting your area?
Additionally, what opportunities or challenges do you see currently? Do you see any benefits to the cleaving as it appears to be underway? Do you have any advice for readers who might be stuck behind enemy lines?
Some good news from Missouri
JEFFERSON CITY, Mo. – Calling vaccine mandates unconstitutional, Governor Mike Parson signed an executive order Thursday prohibiting any federal mandate from being enacted in Missouri.
The order bans “all agencies, boards and commissions within the executive branch of state government from mandating vaccines for employees.”
State Attorney General Eric Schmitt has already said he’s going to file suit to stop any COVID vaccine mandates as well.
Wish I lived in that state
You can and you should. There will be no rewards for dying behind enemy lines. I humbly urge you to pick up stakes and haul ass to a conservative state like Florida, etc.
Here’s the thing, I think we all know by now this doesn’t have a damn thing to do with public health. There’s just way to many examples like not considering natural immunity and suppressing early treatment protocols. At some point TPTB are going to point their cannons at states like FL & TX. They will cheat, steal, and lie that should be abundantly clear as well. We need help from people like you to fortify these states and keep them as conservative as possible.
If the elite/left penetrate most of the friendly territory we are in dire straits. After seeing what is happening in Western Nations I believe we are; again, the world’s last best hope for a free humanity.
Too many things holding back right now, but I would love to be able to skeedaddle out of Illinois.
Change your state, stand your ground.
Loss of life would be 1st on my ”things list” just sayin
We should never allow ourselves to get so anchored to a location that we can’t pack up move in a relative short period of time.
Particularly in this day at this time, get yourself to a safe zone, find a place of refuge now while that option is still available
Just stay away from the large cities.
^^^^
#1 Action Plan for anyone trapped in a state.
It’s not Florida, but we do have 4 seasons.
That is where we are planning to move, hopefully soon!
Yeah my memaw governor in Alabama did the same thing,it’s meaningless for us.
Here’s a new take on FJB ala a Simpsons cartoon to cheer you up.
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Calling it a vaccine should be unconstitutional it is a short term shot at best.
While that is admittedly better than most governors, Gov. Parson’s EO is contingent on an “individual’s sincerely held religious belief or for medical reasons;” whereas, it should ONLY be contingent upon the concept of “my body, my choice.”
As written, Parson’s EO will force many who have no verifiable medical condition or real religious reason to not accept the clot shot to lie if they wish to be exempted from taking it. NO ONE should be put in that position in order to protect themselves from the proven dangers of an experimental drug! NO ONE should be required to offer ANY reason/excuse for refusing to allow something (anything) to be injected into his or her body against their will!
You can find the full EO here>>> Executive Orders | Governor Michael L. Parson (mo.gov).
From there, click “10/28/2021 – Executive Order 10 — Protects the individual rights of Missourians against overreaching federal COVID-19 vaccine mandates”
There are really no medical exemptions if they really want to push the jab. I had severe thrombocytopenia in late childhood. Unresponsive to any treatment so spleen and auxiliaries removed. Can’t exactly do that again if it recurs. Ask almost any doctor if susceptibility to thrombocytopenia is a contraindication and they’ll say no. Even hemophilia.org took that position as soon as the jab started, with no data or track record at all. Yet thrombocytopenia was listed by CDC, NIH, FDA etc. from the beginning as a potential adverse reaction. This is not medicine. It’s not public health. It’s not even science. It’s delirium, hysterical, sadistic, misanthropic, greedy, sociopathic delirium.
I have had immune Thrombocytopenia since childhood. Every medical professional but onecstill says take the jab.
No thanks.
If the fact that they extract babies alive by C-section or inducing labor at 15-35 weeks, then kill the live baby by extracting the organs they wish to harvest does not give even an atheist a moral reason to reject the vax then what would?
Garbage is piling up……
https://nypost.com/2021/10/27/nyc-sanitation-workers-blame-de-blasios-vaccine-mandate-on-trash-pileups/
Excellent.
The rich don’t give a damn.
They can’t stop the smell! ?
Four-legged rats on Manhattan’s streets will soon outnumber the two-legged ones. Awwwww what a shame.
was watching a show about the homeless and it was mentioned by the doctor on the show that soon we will see outbreaks of the bubonic plague (spread by fleas on rodents) because of lack of sanitation across many cities. Rat populations exploding. Already had outbreaks of typhoid.
So that already happened a year or two ago in Los Angeles. They found rats downtown at City Hall that carried the plague.
All holding public offices no doubt.
Yes that’s right, we have watchmen who are currently warning about people urinating and defecating on the sidewalks garbage piling up in public places but, we’ve always had watchmen who warn of eminent dangers.
We had these special individuals warnings us about our own intelligence community for decades but did anyone listen.
I say as a whole society does not listen to the watchmen
You could be right, but it may also be the case that the watchmen’s voice was suppressed to where many never heard it. Recall it was Hillary Clinton in defense of her husband who started the “right wing conspiracy” phrase that has permeated our culture so much that many truth tellers have to first prove. they are not “conspiracy nuts” as the preamble to their.stories.
And some of those suckers are as big as a small cow dog!
To fill in service gaps left by unvaccinated sanitation workers, de Blasio announced the Department of Sanitation would be nixing days off, adding Sunday tours and lengthening eight-hour shifts by four hours.
“No, there’s no discussion of changing the deadline,” de Blasio said.
https://nypost.com/2021/10/28/de-blasio-wont-budge-on-vaccine-deadline-for-nyc-workers/
They should all just quit. Working the remaining people like galley slaves isn’t going to help.
NY’ers have been thru this before. NYC had a garbage haulers (er…excuse me – sanitation workers) strike back in 1968 and garbage/trash was piled to the sky everywhere – jumbo sized rats ran rampant. MSM covered it widely back then. I remember being appalled at the city’s tolerance of that condition. But I was still relatively young and idealistic……
Aren’t jumbo sized rats those who hold public office? ?
By Jove I think you’re right! NYC didn’t eradicate the rats, they elected them into public office!
MSM covered it widely back then.
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As opposed to political and ideological garbage which has been piling up in NYC for decades…
What do you see in your town, hamlet, city, neighborhood and/or region?
Not much to be honest. I work from home, I don’t go out and do much any more since the start of this year. Mostly because I don’t want to support or bolster the economy of a blue state if I don’t have to. I go to the grocery store now and then, don’t wear a mask, no one has bothered me about it yet, no one has asked me for proof of vaccination, thankfully. I don’t go to bars or restaurants so it might be different there, but I don’t want to find out. I make all my meals at home.
How are the various vaccine mandates impacting your area?
It is threatening my job, which I might lose at the end of the year if I don’t take it.
Do you see any benefits to the cleaving as it appears to be underway?
Yes, because I know which people to remove from my life. Including immediate family members. Oh, you voted for Biden and hate Trump so much, but you don’t support the vaccine mandate that is threatening my health and livelihood? Well, too little too late. Nice knowing you.
Thank you. That’s exactly how I feel about anyone I know voted for Biden. I’m going to lose my job and my kids are going to have limited life options because of how they voted – I want nothing to do with them.
You are not alone. Ties have been cut with my brother and his clueless, flaming, lefty wife. Just less Christmas presents to purchase.
My own parents and sister won’t contact me anymore. I told them Biden was going to destroy the country right before the 2020 election and all of this virus crap was fake and orchestrated. Told them the vax was the real goal. Now they are seeing it for themselves. Sister in Seattle and now sees how Inslee is going all commie and destroying the state. Economy in the toilet and the debacle in Afghanistan.
So instead of admitting they were wrong, they chose to no longer communicate with me or my husband. Luckily his side of the family are conservatives.
This is how the democrats want us divided.
I know, it’s sad, but I feel like it has to be done. This time, no just sitting there and taking it quietly. Let them know their actions have consequences. I feel we are in a cold civil war.
This too shall pass.
I believe and hope your kids will have enough time on the other side of this to make a wonderful life for themselves.
The damage done to children these past 2 years will not be undone.
Lenin: “Give me just one generation of youth, and I’ll transform the whole world”. It’s happening. They have to see us fight back
Every circumstance creates opportunities. If you believe your life will be ruined it will. If you choose rather to take advantage of your circumstances and opportunities nothing can stop you from building new lives. Will things be the same as before? No, but do new and different things. American will not be the same as before, but God is still on the throne and will work all things together for good to those that love him and are the called according to his purpose.
Amen, Zoe.
Im with you; Dec 8 i lose my job; everyone at my work is just take it you are putting us at risk… bla bla; Im exhausted, everything that I have is being pulled away from me except my wife and daughter plus god.
Worst part is these people don’t see what is going on in the world. they go about their day like nothing is wrong with treating another human the way they do… ostracizing for medical
they want diversity and inclusion except when they feel threatened… hypocrites
In Wisconsin, the State Supreme court sentenced a man to death by denying him ivermectin. He is in a drug induced coma and is on a ventilator. The only thing ivermectin could do is SAVE HIS LIFE. So, naturally, these 4 evil judges sided with death over life.
I thought that President Trump gave us the “Right to Try”, meaning in a life threatening medical situation you are allowed to try any drug whether FDA officially approved” or not.
He did, I remember it distinctly.
That’s not exactly what “Right to Try” means in practice, and in fact it’s been in force (in a variety of versions) in 41 states since long before Mr. Trump was elected. It has been a common issue with cancer patients for a long, long time:
https://www.healio.com/news/hematology-oncology/20200303/right-to-try-a-wellintentioned-but-misguided-law
The provider has the license to prescribe, therefore no matter what the name of the law is, it’s really the DOCTOR who has the “right to try” off-label treatments, medications and approaches in a dire situation. The federal law grants some relief of liability for the provider in case the “Hail Mary Pass” doesn’t work and the patient is instead harmed or dies quicker. But a patient still can’t DEMAND that a provider try any drug that has not already been through Phase 1 clinical trials. It does streamline the process for a doc to request (of the FDA) altering dosage or trying a previously approved drug off-label. The FDA responds rapidly to these requests, (in my experience) within days. They routinely approve these requests. There’s also an “Expanded Access” program the FDA has that is discussed in the linked article. Some different parameters, and in some cases easier access to drugs that haven’t completed trials.
The power ultimately reserved for patients is the “Right to Refuse” among any treatments offered. You could think of it as veto power vs. the legislative power.
I just ordered ivermectin from PUSH online service who sent the prescription to Honeybee Pharmacy who will mail me the ivermectin. My daughter is going to Mexico next month for vacation so I’ll ask if she can get more there.
How did You get the prescription ? No doctors in Charlottesville will give one
pushhealth.com
I live in WA State & the PushHealth Nurse who prescribed it had to use a compounding pharmacy out of Meridian, ID and they mailed us the prexcription. The big box pharmacy’s won’t do it.
Portico Pharmacy
Address: 3355 E Louise Dr, Meridian, ID 83642
Phone: +1 208 288 4341
We order ours directly from All Day Chemists in India. Takes about a month to get it, but it always shows eventually. I expect it to be banned here at some point. All Day also sells antibiotics and inhalers.
While in MI I got both Ivermection and HCQ from the website FLCCC Aliance. You follow directions, hook
up with a doctor and the meds are forwarded to a pharmacy you wish or if not possible then they will recommend a pharmacy that will ship them to you. I provided a donation for services rendered. It was a great resource.
I bought it online no script same people who sell viagra online no script. Also a good source for antibiotics. Takes around 3 weeks to arrive (India) so get it before you need it. If it’s too expensive maybe pool with some friends.
https://myfreedoctor.com/
You are in Cville?
I bought Ivermectin and HCQ from River Pharmacy. I have it on hand if I need it. Meanwhile our Congress has been taking Ivermectin which we peons are denied. I asked Rodney Davis, R IL13 why we have a two tiered medical system on top of our two tiered justice system. Cue the crickets.
Yup. Unfortunately, we have a 3-3 split in the court between “lawful” and “lawless”, and Brian “John Roberts” Hagedorn sided with the “lawless” justices to sentence this man to death. Sickening…
But, that’s what we get when we don’t fix our election fraud issues and allow liberals to steal our elections, including our State Supreme Court elections…
How about when they suddenly advised not to take daily aspirin anymore because it was found to help Covid. Don’t remember what the reason to not take it was. Just blatant
People w/heart conditions have to take a daily aspirin for life. They really do want us dead.
Their reason to stop taking it–it’s a blood thinner and older people have risks of internal bleeding. But this sudden change came about two days after it was found that aspirin helped those with Covid. They do hate us. That’s ok. I hate them, too. Accept it and push back.
How does a governor get away with “mandating” a vax that is not approved in the U.S.? I am in Oregon and I am sure Comrade Kate Brown is jumping at the bit to do the same as Inslee in Washington. I work with all vaxxed in a four person firm so we are under the 100 employee limit. If it ever comes to an illegal mandate, I will make my employer fire me.
Large West Michigan hospital system indefinitely postpones 10-18 vaccine mandate. RN daughter said they would have to fire 50% of staff
Glad to read that some places are finally realizing the utter foolishness of these “mandates”.
I service over 500 nursing homes in the state of Texas……..about 60-70 percent of workers are vaxed……some corporate owners tried a vax mandate, then backed down to twice a week testing(provided for by the nursing home……they have pallets of tests and ppe free from the feds……) After the vaxed starting popping positive now they test everybody 2x a week……..I’m a vendor and of course everyone wears a mask (luckily I’m in and out in 20-30 minutes)…… Since I’m unvaxed I have to add a face shield to go in………Sometimes I get tested once a week, but I’ve been tested 3 times in one day………by the nursing home free of charge………everything is inconsistent……..but a lot ov the vaxed are wondering why they got the jab……they’re working conditions haven’t change……..on another note……I was sick in Jan 2020 for about 3 days……..quit working in May/June 2020…….then the Nursing homes said I. Oils come back but had to have a monthly COVID test…..So I got an antigen and antibody test and tested positive for the antibodies…….been in hundreds of nursing homes that were COVID only…….Never tested positive…..so I’m assuming natural immunity works…..
“Since I’m unvaxed I have to add a face shield to go in.” Totally insane theater! It’s all about getting people to accept the irrational.
It appears to me (also un vaxed) that the biggest thing any more is:”SHUT UP AND DO AS YOU’RE TOLD”. … comply or else.
In my town, there is little indication of anything Kovid related; the occasional mask and shortage, but nothing major.
My employer, a well known state university in Pennsylvania has not only drank the woke kool-aid, but has also turned into Branch Covidians.
I may or may not have a job on December 9th, but I will bow to no one.
Note: been working from home, 30 miles away for 18 months now. Somehow this could suddenly endanger the work environment. Oh, and I got an EXCELLENT on my recent review.
Can’t make this sh*t up.
Also note… The second my employer even made mention of possible jab mandate, I collapsed all spending and went into full poor mode.
At this point, if I actually made $15/hour, I would still bank a bundle.
The dogs and I could survive a nuclear winter if need be.
Your move.
Well done. Bravo.
Stay strong, Baby El. Godspeed.
in the same boat, different state same geographic region. full on crazy here.
There’s a place in Heaven for all dog lovers and all other critter lovers!! I asked GOD and he told me so.
Yep, you may get the insane hero to zero treatment.
The crazies are running the country.
As sundance wrote recently, 20% of people in any organization do 80% of the real work.
The Globalarchy is dumping all of the really competent people such as yourself out into Free America to begin contributing to a parallel economy and society.
And they are working hard to make their corrupt institutions collapse from lack of productivity.
In a way they are shooting themselves in both feet simultaneously.
What the parasites cannot see is the productive, thinking, useful part of society that keeps the slugs alive, is now shifting away from supporting the system.
If you think shortages are here now, wait until this current jackboot thuggery backlash sets in.
About 10% of actual working people control levers that will hurt and hurt hard.
“What the parasites cannot see is the productive, thinking, useful part of society that keeps the slugs alive, is now shifting away from supporting the system”
Hence the recent GDP collapse that Sundance reported earlier.
Yes, Kam … the whole Atlas Shrugged, Ayn Rand novel keeps coming to mind……
Im going me, myself
“Going Galt” is finally happening for a myriad of reasons.
Hi, I work out at Space Center in Florida. They are pushing the mandates hard and have given us certain dates that need to be vaccinated. Moderna, Pfizer, Jand J.. If don’t meet requirements will be suspended for 2 weeks without pay.
However, I was able to get my religious exemption approved and will have to test weekly/bi weekly and will have to where mask all the time and social distance.
What questions were asked on your paper work. I’m hearing people are being turned down many places.
The “Pass/Fail” situation on exemptions I’ve heard of in the private sector and mil contractor areas depend on how important one is to the company or organization’s bottom line. Two folks at the same company can turn in almost identical paperwork but the “granted exempt” one will be the leader who will quit and take key employees OR business with him. Fair does not exist, existing antibodies do not work, only who or what you know or provide. Even then you may get hosed.
How did you go about the religious exemption? Trying to figure how to get one for my wife if her company starts pushing it. We are in FL too on the opposite coast.
info for religious accommodations (the real term for describing them, they have only recently been called exceptions/exemptions)
Liberty Council https://lc.org/exempt
https://www.coreysdigs.com/health-science/covid-19-resources-medical-legal-forms-jobs-other-critical-information/
Im at KSC myself. I refuse to let them discriminate against me with masks or testing if the vaxxed are not doing the same. Vaxxed infect others just as easily…per the CDC
I live in Oregon and work in Washington. The owner of the business where I work is not pro vax and will not require it until there’s no other way out. He said that when that time comes, I can transfer to our Oregon facility and that might buy me a few more months. I’m a Tool Design Engineer for the Tool and Die industry, I manage a Tool and Die department at a mid sized company, my garage is fitted with manual machine tools and I can design and manufacture dies from there, as well as general manual machining (job shop).
I was self employed at one time and what I learned is that I’m a much better design builder than I am a businessman. With a slowing economy it will be even more difficult to try to make it work but I will try before I give into a repressive totalitarian state.
Your skills and abilities will be very much appreciated if this all goes south. Many in many industries KNOW that worker shortages will get worse due to mandates, retirements, and premature disabilities and deaths due to vexcine side effects(my sister succumbed to the J&J “rare” clotting issues). Might be a good time to confirm your own supplies and possibly find a true friend of similar mindset who is a good businessman and possible partner.
I’m in SC, near the border of Augusta Ga. Everything here is pretty much the way it was before the shamdemic. We have to wear masks in the doc or hospitals but, everywhere else we have been its voluntary. My family doc didnt even ask if I had gotten or wanted to get the jab. Even in Augusta, no one asked me to put on a mask except MCG. I actually haven’t heard anyone talking about the jab except the Augusta mayor on tv. They are offering $100 to take the jab.
We’re in the SC midlands. Most people walk around without masks. They’re pretty much “over it”. Only place that requires is the hospital or medical facilities.
We live in the beautiful S.C. Lowcountry. Masks are not required but some stores suggest you wear a mask. Most people show their faces.
One exception, last week in the deli line at a local grocery, a masked Karen loudly chatting with her masked friend opined people who did not get the clot shot are utterly stupid. That apparently was directed at the long line of unmasked shoppers. The Karen said she had signed up to get the booster shot, and could get it because she had connections. Perhaps she knows Dr. Fauci.
at a local grocery store a masked Karen exclaimed to her masked friend that people who have noT had the clot shot are really stupid.
In Southern Oregon, woefully short of hospital and nursing home staff because of the many former “first responder heroes” who have no job because they refuse The Jab.
In our local hospital, temporary staff have been brought in at greater cost to fill in for the formerly employed locals. AND no requirement for the temps to be vaxxed!
That’s just in your face wrong. How can you fire the unvaxxed then hire replacements that are unvaxxed? Could the fired just go work as a temp?
Heh, all the temps are from out of state or foreign.
They don’t need to be vaxxed since they aren’t staying long.
/s
It shows that the mandate has nothing whatsoever to do with health, and is just about punishing the experienced workers who refuse to comply. And also destroying businesses and the health care system.
It’s about destroying the United States of America, the first step (outlined in excruciating detail by Richard Cloward and Frances Fox Piven) towards the creation of the United Socialist States of America.
sounds like a lawsuit–fired because unvax but position filled by an unvax.
SW Miami-Dade. No mandates, stores are starting to take down the plastic shields between the customer and cashier. Most people moving about freely. However, there are still idiots wearing masks in a car with the windows up. Yeah figure that one out. Some things are out of stock in the stores, not much but some things. Prices are up for everything.
I simply don’t believe the percentage rates they boost about people being vaccinated.
Agree. They are motivated to inflate the vax rates.
Just like the “death due to Covid” rates.
Western Waukesha County here. No mask, jab, social distancing restrictions. Locals respect each other. Deep Red Territory. Never-ever-ever-ever go to Milwaukee. This area is humming with corn and bean harvests.
In Texas, Abbott already addressed the issue by prohibiting this vax mandate as condition of employment. A friend got Covid and when her doctor called in the ivermectin prescription to a certain Walgreens she discovered the pharmacist picks and chooses who she prescribes it to. My friend was one of the lucky ones but we can get the paste at the feed store so no one is worried. I need new glasses and as I called around I noticed the national chains force masks on you. When I pushed and asked why not have the employees wear five masks, all I got was it was company policy. I told her I would take my business elsewhere and went with a LOCAL optometrist who believes in freedom of choice.
In the swamps of Jersey it’s biz as usual…
https://nj1015.com/in-sting-videos-aides-say-murphy-plans-post-election-vax-mandate/
https://m.facebook.com/FreeNJKids/
Indiana State Police are offering jobs to Chicago police officers who choose to avoid participating in the vaxstermination.
Vaxstermination.That’s ,PERFECT.I’m stealing that one.
My gift to you.
My new word for the day!
Thanks.?
And me ?
Me too?
I live in the Adirondack park in New York State. The park is about 6 million acres and is heavily regulated. As you can guess there is a multi-generation welfare problem-it is relatively easy to go on unemployment if you work a couple of weeks a year, and that is what happens. The town that I live in, Lake Placid, has been forced to bring in students from Europe for the tourist season, and has done so for many years. The owners of small businesses are working around the clock to survive now because in addition to the usual lack of enthusiasm for work there are the mandates. In summary, things are worse but it is not a new problem, just a worsening of an old one.
My employer is (apparently) a federal contractor and has made the (admittedly reluctant) decision to force everyone to get vaccinated.
I’ve applied for a religious exemption based on the fact that vax developed using aborted fetus cell lines is an abomination. Their decision is pending so keep a prayer for me if you can spare one.
Just a tip:
As part of your employer’s due diligence on the exemption, you’ll be challenged on whether you take a number of common medications that were also developed using these fetal cell lines. Be prepared to forsake these (which is the right thing to do, imo).
Stay strong out there ~
The another path is that most religions have strong prohibitions against self-harm.
I saw the list of common medications that the Commies are using to challenge the religious exemption.
The majority of those drugs were made before fetal cells came into use. It’s another bluff.
Here is the list of drugs I saw…
Tylenol. Ibuprofen
Pepto Bismol. Maalox
Aspirin. EX-L ax
Tums. Zocor
Lipitor. Zostavax
Senokot. Benadryl
Motrin
Tylenol Cold& Flu
Simvastatin
Sudafed.
Albuterol
Preparation H
Enbrel
MMR vaccine
Acetaminophen (name brand is Tylenol).
Claritin. Zoloft
Suphedrine Prilosec
Azithromycin
Varilix
Havrix
Thanks.
Prior to 1983 there were no fetal cells. Most items on that list have been around since the 50s and 60s, some even earlier. Take aspirin. You know that aspirin has been around since the 40s. There was no fetal cell research then. Why would anyone believe that aspirin was developed using fetal cells? Tylenol same. Preparation H same. I could go on.
See the link I posted above to Chojun.
They have all kinds of drugs on that list that were developed before those babies were aborted – they are playing games with that thinking to catch you or have an excuse to deny you your legal exemption. The key thing is they could test everything against fetal cell lines it’s not the same as developing something using aborted babies.
In honesty you already legally have an exemption – your employer grants an accommodation.
Water has been used in testing with fetal cell lines…
The common medications to which you refer were NOT developed using fetal cells line. Access this link at cogforlife.org. Please read and distribute it far and wide. https://cogforlife.org/2021/09/21/14-medicines-fr-matthew-schneider-claimed-use-aborted-fetal-cell-lines-but-do-not/. This false information must be challenged because employers are using it against people who are against the shots for ethical reasons.
What are those common medications?
the key phrase is: ‘never knowingly took medications developed using aborted fetal cells.’
and btw much of the information out there on common drugs like tylenol, etc using fetal cells is actually false. Verify what you have been told before you forsake something you use.
You do NOT have to “prove” your religious exemption. In fact, the less said the better. Employers are required by law to accommodate sincerely held religious beliefs.
Alaska Railroad rescinds vax mandate.
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/10/alaska_railroad_emrescindsem_vaccine_mandate_for_employees.html
In Fort Wayne, Indiana I am unaware of any mandates at all. Almost no one is masked and the one I know personally who does mask and requires it in his small shop is also immuno-compromised and had a recent transplant so that’s more general “any bug could put at death’s door” than Covid specific.
We’re also a city where you can openly wear MAGA hats and even the local Democrats are pro-life and shut down the attempts by Antifa/BLM to riot last year so this isn’t terribly surprising.
Actually, Indiana has put out word that it will welcome any doctors/nurses/law enforcement from Chicago who were fired due to their mandates. Our governor’s a bit of a squish, but our state legislature passed a law that basically neutered his ability to unilaterally declare mandates and the State AG is backing the legislature.
We also have a squishy mayor in Fort Wayne. He won’t shut his pie-hole about the wonders of the jab.
Those interested in more friendly employers might try redballoon.work (matching up freedom-loving companies with freedom-loving workers).
Quite a bit of angst in North Alabama as exemptions are not being accepted by some employers.
Damn,I just posted my report in the fjb daily thread,then I see this.
Bring it over here.
I’ll try.
Well Treepers here is my report from a Navel “misspelled on purpose ” shipyard. Today they fired about 6 to 8 hundred people. I submitted my nazi vaccination papers yesterday,.I’m still employed. I happened to find a pharmacist that was also a member of the Resistance, he even billed the company insurance for the shot, to help me create a paper trail.The Resistance is GROWING!%^>. My coworker asked did I have any adverse effects, I told him I didn’t feel a THING?.WE have a saying amongst the workers that goes something like. If you ain’t here you can’t f em.
Long live the TREE,thanks for listening, rant over .
Our memaw governor didn’t help, she declared an executive order against the mandates, but it only applied to the state agencies under the executive branch, no help for us,attorney General hasn’t done anything, no religious exemptions accepted.
We have had so much fraud inflicted on us for the last 9 months, I figured turn about was Fairplay.
That’s close to what I posted on the daily fjb thread.
I’ll report more later… – – – …
Update the company says 2 hundred people, fired.
Where? What company?
Naval shipyard,in LA,lower alabama.
I believe as states see the impact of local mandates, the state governments will impose statewide mandates so the whole state suffers equally.
I am in VA we don’t have local mandates and the state government worker mandate still allows testing (aren’t they generous?). VA is especially impacted by the federal, military, and fed contractor mandates will be interesting to see what that causes economically in the next month or so.
I do know VA is already desperate for school bus drivers, teachers, and support staff – so any mandate would possibly shut down school cafeteria services and bus routes. One of our larger counties had virtual school due to staff shortages last month. This is all without mandates so it should be interesting if McAwful “wins” as he’s promised vaccine mandates.
VOTE
I work in Orange County CA for a privately held company based in San Diego. We sell computers and security services to a wide range of customers in the area across all business and government sectors (except Federal) and we sometimes provide on-site services to local school districts and depts of education. So far only those entities are requiring proof of vaxx or a current negative Covid test. The company owner’s stance is neutral to negative on the jabs.
We are also seeing (just barely) offsite meetings with customers whose companies or sites have a mask mandate.
Signs in stores for masks are all guidance-only and I see a random mix of muzzled and bare faces.
Living in the Salinas/Monterey region in Central Cailfornia under the governor’s promise to mandate vaccinations to children in grades K-12 as soon as next week, I personally know of several families pulliing their children out of public schools and begin home schooling. Interestingly enough, these families are from differing walks of life, political stances, race, and other demographics. As a neighbor told me when asked if he would be letting his 2 young daughters be vaccinated, “It’s one thing for my wife and I to get the vaccine, but it’s a whole different matter for subjecting my kids to an experimental vaccine”. I have neices pulling their kids out of public school and is in the process of beginning the home school route.
Parents beware, there is a plan to vaccinate students without parental consent in many schools across the nation….after the fact you may have grounds to sue but by then too late, kid is vaccinated.
Down here in SLO County its much the same, many upset parents. I will homeschool all my grandbabies if need be, no way are they being used as Pfizer’s guinea pigs. Of course, homeschoolers will be next on the list.
I’ve been to 3 protests this week at the Cape Canaveral Space Force Station and Kennedy Space Center. 200 folks or so at each at least. Our great Sheriff, Wayne Ivey, attended the one this morning and gave a speech. Absolutely great guy. He goes up and down the line carrying on conversations with EVERYONE. Definitely America’s Sheriff. Good response for the most part from car drivers. I’m a KSC contractor. I will not vaxx. I will not submit an exemption even tho I could…I shouldn’t have to.
The free state of Florida is doing just fine. A constant flow of snowbirds and blue state snowflakes are flooding our state for a breath of freedom. No Europeans yet but Canadians are showing up again.
Too bad our snowbirds aren’t smart enough to see that Florida is doing better than New York and that they should stop reading the propaganda from the New York Times. I have a buddy from New York that I recently spoke to who was spouting off how Florida has the highest COVID infection rate and most deaths in the country. He believed it with full sincerity & nothing would convince him otherwise. People are going mad. I wonder if they’ll ever look back and realize they got snookered majorly?
Idiotic, when in fact Governor DeSantis is showing that FL has the lowest rates in the nation.
It is a mixed bag here in Florida, Corporations still have workers wearing masks when more than half of the customers do not and many like Publix have lost quite a few employees over their internal jab mandates. Liberal population centers here are like another planet if you spend most of your time in the sticks like I do. I am waiting for eastern 3/4 of Washington and most of Oregon sans Eugene, Salem and Portlandia to cede and create Greater Idaho, which my friend who lives in Boise seems rather excited about. Back in Florida, Burger King is starting folks at $16 and hour with proof of the Kill jab cocktail.
Guess I’m never shopping a Publix again – and I never ate a BK so really can’t boycott them.
Publix has no such vax mandate here in GA so I’d be very surprised if it had one in FLA either. I have relatives working at Publix here in GA and they have a mask requirement for employees who have not been vaxxed, but that’s all.
Buddy they are pushing the vax, My pharmacist left because they FORCED her OUT, she wasn’t scared to tell me on her last day. Many bag and stock folks as well.
Do you know if the BK mandate is corporate and nationwide or by franchisee?
Dunno.
SC publix do not have a mandate…is it just at the headquarters?
Not sure. I do know Publix has a very strict employee culture. A few former employees describe it as almost cult like. I do know that they didn’t like the mask mandates because of the Very Expensive facial recognition software they use to scan shoppers criminal histories in order to help Loss Prevention officers keep an eye on would be shoplifters. If they keep raising prices, I might as well go shop at Whole Paycheck Foods.
I’m retired in commifornia in Orange County. 65-70% are vaxed in my city. I keep my mouth shut about vaccines since I didn’t drink the kool aid and I don’t wear a mask except in medical facilities. No problem with church. It’s been open since May 2020 with no mask mandates. I went back in June 2020.
I think the vax mandate is gonna to lead good people to start new ventures. Most businesses are bloated anyway and even talking of letting people go to improve profits is “mean”.
A lot of people will come out better off having quit and moved or started a new venture. Some won’t, but we need to help those as best we can: offer a job, donate some money.
Last night we went to a local Woodinville, WA (suburb of Seattle) restaurant where we know most of the staff really well. The restaurant until recently had a sign on the door saying “we trust you – if you’ve been vaccinated you don’t need a mask”. So I walked in without a mask. I was stopped by a waiter I didn’t know who demanded that I put on a mask and show my vax card. All this so I could walk a few yards and then sit down and take the stupid thing off. It’s absolutely idiotic.
Is this an actual law or do our “officials” just think of something, say it and then we all have to do it regardless if it makes the least bit of sense?
I hope you walked out
Did you ask to see proof of his drug or syphilis test?
King County initiated a voluntary vaxx-pass for restaurants recently. My understanding is that the restaurant gets to choose their policy.
Here in Jefferson County, WA, we have had mandatory vaxx-pass for all restaurants since September.
Restaurants in my area made patrons do the same thing when all of this madness started. They made all wear masks through the doors and to your table where once seated you could take it off. I commented one time to the waiter that I barely survived the covid by escaping just in time to my table before it got me. He acknowledged how stupid he felt by enforcing that misguided policy.
Small town in SC – While most people walk around with no masks with no backlash, only place I see a lot of masks is in Walmart. Those I know who have been vaccinated had it way back when it began and now have changed their minds. We pretty much go about our own business. I own my own company where I do NOT mandate masks nor do I require the injections as I’m against. Most of my clients are very verbally against the injection or masks. Heard a lot of bad things from medical workers – saying if you get sick, do NOT go to hospital if you can help it because you won’t come home. They’re waiting until your oxygen levels are too low and too late to give and then injecting you with some other substance that seems to be killing most.
Phoenix metro area, Arizona – healthcare majorly impacted. Pharmacies reducing hours, some as bad as 5-day 9a-7p with ‘hiring techs with signing bonus’ placards everywhere. Pharmacy benefit managers (several fortune 100 companies) with local presence doing same, sweeping up the grunts with signing bonuses and fighting over those who got the jab. My personal company (major pbm) reporting 50-70% of production employees haven’t submitted proof, some of that i’m sure is laziness but we’re looking at 800 people being “exited” come January. Not counting the people who are getting out now while they can, because why wait to be fired and fight with everyone else in that boat?
On the other end, grocery stores and convenience/ gas stations seem unimpacted, they’ve got hiring signs up but customer lines are normal and no significant delays.
There are no mandates that I am aware of here, in the tippy top of GA… I have many friends that have decided to get the vaccine. One of them went yesterday for her booster. She kinda scolded me for being a decliner,, but,, it was one quick comment, and we just moved on. Thinking a bit, husband and I are both retired, and live simply. We may not encounter certain mandates at a workplace.
My husband has had Guillain Barre.. You can look it up, I will spare the details. No way on earth will he ever get the vaccination. Nope, not gonna happen. And, I will not disparage anyone that has made the choice to get vaccinated. I wish you well, sincerely.
What do you see in your town, hamlet, city, neighborhood and/or region?
Very little impact, except tourism, as the local area is more of a subsistence economy. What remains after the first phase of Salem’s mandates last year appears to be pretty stalwart.
How are the various vaccine mandates impacting your area?
Haven’t been personally impacted, however I only interact with a small portion of business and avoid government humans as much as possible.
Our Sheriff already published that he won’t be enforcing mask and vaccine mandates at the law enforcement level. Locally the area is historically very conservative and more of a haven for rugged individualists.
I think this winter will be very telling. Winters are hard here. If someone or a business fails, it’s usually during winter. Main improvement I’d like to see is more local coordination. That’s up to all of us though. No person is an island.
I’m in Syracuse NY, which at the moment has no mask mandate. I’m retired, thank God, so no employer mandates to resist. Not long ago I attended a protest, primarily of health care workers, against vaccine mandates. There were several hundred people, downtown, and we had a lot of support from passing motorists. I observed no instances of pushback.
Where I regularly go, almost no one wears a mask. There are signs outside stores requesting the unvaccinated to wear a mask, but I ignore them and no one hassles me. Church, Bible study, farmer’s market—no issues.
But this is New York, and I live in a blue city, so who knows what will happen. My plan, no matter what, is quiet resistance.
Hawaii? No “cleaving” whatsoever. Unlike the mainland, I don’t see rural areas as having any difference in outlook. I guess from watching footall and baseball on TV, they finally will allow unlimited people into outdoor sports, but only if masked and vaxxed. The only exception now is on military bases; at least the army doesn’t require a mask (if you are “fully” vaxxed by your own determination) and no vax pass to be seen. It’s rare now to see a troop in a mask, though in the commissary maybe 50% (people conditioned from state edicts).
Houston, TX
Most things seem to be pretty ordinary. It’s a bit goofy still seeing many workers in grocery stores and waiters still wanting to wear masks in spite of not being forced to. Otherwise the only area that seems really impacted (from what I can see) are schools.
I saw that some schools were asking if people would volunteer to help out with serving food up in cafeterias, which meant people weren’t wanting to go back to working those low paying jobs and the schools were greedy enough they’d prefer begging people to work for free than offer to pay more. There’s also the masking being done in schools in defiance of the governor’s order.
I do Uber driving so I see a lot of the city and how different parts of it behave and the only area I see often wearing masks is at some schools and college campuses. It’s kinda funny going by the bars and clubs and seeing how everything there is 100% back to normal, unless you count the Uber rules where people can be snitched on the app about if they didn’t wear a mask so people get masked purely to hop in the Uber for 5 minutes then hop out and take it off as they enter clubs where they don’t wear masks. You can pretty much guess it’s often the extremely liberal passengers that are most religious about wanting masks and even maybe putting windows down in addition to wanting to talk about masks and vaccines constantly, versus the obviously right wing passengers that seem more into chatting about places to eat or where to go party (I mostly drive at night).
I have found it a little interesting how many people hadn’t heard that monoclonal antibody treatments were free (I’m at least pretty sure they are in Texas). Cause I had people that commented on how that’d be too expensive for most people to ever make use of, when in reality it’s getting offered for free in Texas like it is in Florida.
There also was a stark change with the way Uber handled drivers last year. They started doing regularly doing promotions, like very week from Mon-Thurs and Fri-Sun, before Corona they’d only do those sorts of promotions on rare occasions. Last year the promotions would regularly be things like “Drive 40 trips in [period mentioned] for $200 bonus”, so it was two of these promotions each week adding up to a nice chunk of change every week for those wanting to work. As people have started going back out normally the promotions have tapered off to the point the current promotions are more like “Drive 40 trips for $20”, which actually isn’t that bad since the increased demand means more surge prices that even things out. So it was essentially Uber putting their system of drivers on life support which they’ve been able to largely stop here.
Folks better call ahead before showing up at a facility for monoclonal antibodies. I checked around up here in East Texas. There can be charges to see a doctor and charges for the facility and infusion services. If a person already has a primary care provider, he/she (not they) probably can obtain an order via a phone call or email through the healthcare system’s portal and avoid a charge for a visit. The price for the hospital’s infusion center in Tyler was several hundred $$$s a couple of months ago. An urgent care chain charged around $800 and did not take Medicare or Medicaid.
There are some state-sp0nsored infusion centers that can be found on the Texas Department of Emergency Management’s map along with the private centers. The state-sponsored one may be completely free if someone shows up with the required doctor’s referral/Rx. I don’t know.
These questions (and answers) are so important to so many.
People that have been locked out of social media information so they do not really know (unless they are in a big group) how effective their stance is, and whether they should give in to the pressure.
Perhaps …. just perhaps………. they can get some good information on their locality………..and I for one really hope so!
I live in South Florida and some stores still have signs encouraging masks & social distancing, but it is personal preference & no one says anything. Unfortunately, some businesses are finding ‘legal’ ways to violate Ron DeSantis’s executive orders. For example, you can’t go to a concert (Ticketmaster, Live Nation) without a vaccine passport or a Covid test. Or You can’t go to a show at the Miami Arts Center (probably same for FtLauderdale & West Palm Arts Center) without a vaccine passport or a Covid test. So the liberal counties & liberal ‘mainstream’ companies are still defying the science & Ron DeSantis. That being said, it’s still way better than living in any liberal state.
Never forget that the WHOLE purpose of the mandates is to further divide and weaken us!
I spoke to my sister yesterday and she told me about her and her hubbie getting their boosters! I know that I will never be able to get her to see the horrorific experiment that is being perpetrated on humanity by the fascists of Big Pharma, Big Tech and the government media complex! In fact I may have to resign myself to the possibly losing ALL of my siblings to this insanity! But I will NOT be forced to bow before ANY human agency; to God alone do I kneel! Instead I will seek out like minded rebels around me, and try to build a community that will make it through this storm!
Remember that there is NO statute of limitations for murder or conspiracy! The Covidian cultists will never be able to reign comfortably until all truth and freedom is buried under their lies! Speak Truth to all who can hear, and only act in righteous anger for the justice and liberty of self and others!
Thank you, Sundance, for keeping the light shining! My prayers go out to you and yours!
My husband was notified that our insurance will be going up $100 per month ($50 for each) because we choose to remain unvaxxed. He sent me a form to request a religious exemption, which is part of the annual sign up and it’s a request for “Religious Exemption” for work exemptions, not from the additional fee.
I am assuming after the deadline the company will be mandating the vax. There is no other reason for the form to be part of the annual sign up. We are in New Mexico.
I thought ObmCare eliminated (further eliminating the existing one) the pre-existing conditions issue. Can’t deny coverage for pre-existing stuff…. Maybe you should inquire about the legality of this uplift. .
Aggiegirl, in Blue Sector 1, Chicago suburbs…DOR 55…
One hears commercials for compliance about every 15 minutes. Stores not enforcing mask mandates, except maybe Petsmart.
People are another story…there is an abundance of peeps who continue to have an opinion on what or how your chose to pursue and avenue of health care. Drives this nurse insane.
The Mag Mile is suffering due to the increase in crime because of the lack of policing and prosecuting the criminals. Car jackings in the Windy City continue. Violent crime is increasing in my little hamlet…had the first armed robbery during day light hours, in years…
have you seen the cook county dept. of public health vax ad that runs nearly every commercial break?
it’s a hypnotically creepy exercise in brainwashing 101.
the entire commercial dialogue is “we’re doctors, trust us, the vaccine is safe” repeated over and over in somber monotones.
it’s really disturbing.
not a believer in the zombie apocalypse, but i think we’ve found our first zombs….?
What’s going on in Los Angeles? It’s hard to tell, as the edicts and timelines change every day, and the state, county, and city compete for the title of “Most Virtuous.”
I live here too, and it seems to me that there are still a lot of people at home that will not go back to work, and would rather spend the rest of their life on the dole. Whenever I go over the hill into Burbank, life seems to be much more normal aside from all of the masking, which is an LA county mandate.
The city of LA vaccine mandate for inside businesses, salons, restaurants, malls, etc. is set to go into effect on November 4th, but I read that they won’t be officially enforcing it until the 29th. I think that churches and grocery stores are not included in the mandate.
I guess I’ll need to find a new hairstylist in outside of the city. I have started doing all of my shopping and errands outside of LA anyway, as there are freaks everywhere in LA now.
I am waiting to hear when governor hair-gel will institute his mandate for the schools because if I have to homeschool my currently private school 11th grader through the rest of high-school, then we will be liberated to move out of the $hit #ole that is Los Angeles.
Hubby is one of the only employees at his company that even goes into the office full time, and several of his co-workers have arranged permanent work from outside places like Hawaii or Nashville, so that’s what we can hopefully do eventually.
There is no coming back from the damage done to LA by the left. And it’s going to get so much worse very soon.
This email invitation from the local group called WeThePeopleSaukCounty,
https://www.wethepeoplesaukco.com/
Describes the costs and heartache in just a few sentences…
‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
On Wednesday, October 27th, 2021 at 9:26 AM, <[redacted]@charter.net> wrote:
My husband works here, my family would appreciate the support. He is one of the guards standing up and saying no. He is our families main support for income and insurance for 6.
If you can’t make it and are a praying person please pray for us and those affected across the nation.
If not us, who, if not now, when.
Thank you, [redacted]
—————————————–
From: “wtpsaukco”
To:
Cc:
Sent: Wednesday October 27 2021 5:47:10AM
Subject: Prison protest 11/1
Good Morning,
For those able to make it on Monday, 01 November to the Oxford prison attached is a map with the location.
(Federal Prison about 30 miles north of Sauk County – sometimes known as a Club Fed Location)
The hours are from 3:00 pm to 5:00 pm so that those working can come off their shift and exercise their first amendment right.
Bring signs, bring flags. I sign I thought of was: EUA says I gotta say!
This represents the fact, yes fact that the emergency use authorization language explicitly states that individuals have the right to refuse this “vaccine.”
As is so often the case government threatens us with legal actions that our individual financial resources can’t withstand so we cave.
But be sure, there is NO FDA approved vaccine available in the U.S. all our employed under the EUA and that gives everyone the right to refuse them.
If I don’t see you Thursday at 6 for our regular meeting I look forward to seeing you on Monday at 3:00.
Thank you for being who you are!
[Redacted]
The corporate vaccine tyrants probably know it’s illegal but also know that 1) most employees don’t know, 2) those who do have neither the time nor money to fight, and 3) that many if not most courts are corrupt and on the side of lawlessness.
As a musician I travel to different areas to work.
My gigs In Memphis have been postponed again. I work for a large corporate chain part of the Darden group. So corporate America is concerned.
Meanwhile the small Mexican restaurant I play every Thursday night 3 blocks from my house is holding steady.
Memphis is masks by order of the county health department.
Mid- to (Columbia) is free and open.
I spent a week in Russellville Arkansas and it was easy.
Memphis lifted the mask mandates today.
50-60 Naval shipyard workers were protesting outside the gates of Kings Bay Naval Submarine Base this morning. Word on the street is upwards of 30% of the skilled workforce are about to be let go due to the federal mandate. This is a direct impact on national security.
LeskoBrandon!
Live in suburbs conservative area of town – about 1 hour northeast of Atlanta.
Travel back and forth.
In my town- still see some folks with masks but no social distancing, folks hugging each other, some physicians are now making masks “voluntary” versus mandatory, masked folks generally not Covidian nuts in that they do not attack you for being unmasked. We are seeing shortages but nothing too bad. You do have Nuts walking with masks but those are fewer and fewer. We have some signs looking to hire folks but have not felt a shortage of workers in the grocery stores, restaurants and stores. The large box stores such as Walmart and Kroger (that I largely avoid) – they do appear to have more empty shelves and less workers. Lots of folks have left these big box stores and working for l local, smaller moms and pops. I get the feeling we are ignoring DC, politicians – and living our lives, being civil and at some level happy.
Atlanta is a different world. Masked idiots abound including folks running with masks!! Mind you last week we had a few days in the low 80s! You have “COVID monitors” in hospitals reminding folks to fully cover their nose, wear mask, social distance….Yard signs abound advocating for controls to save our planet. Climate change hogwash.
All I can do when I wrap up work in Atlanta and contain my feelings of ESCAPING! Back to hometown USA.
Plan to move further north into rural area as we are seeing large influx of folks from out of town and state.