Neil Oliver gives a well considered perspective of how millions of people within each nation’s population are prone to being psychologically manipulated by fear. As a consequence, there is a general outlook of anxiety amid those ordinary people who are not internally strong, psychologically independent, or carrying a strong stable mind.
Good discussion. Many good points made about how multinational corporations and Big Tech are merged ideologically with government to create one big mess of anxious and panicked people.
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Moreso than just the fear porn, there is also a deliberate campaign to demoralize us all. One tactic is theft from us.
For Mrs. Shadow and me we see that we invested decades of sacrifice and hard work and now a few evil bass-tards are trying to just steal it all from us. And like ghetto rats, they aren’t even stealing it to use for themselves, they just want to steal it and destroy it. Like ghetto scum who steal a bicycle only to ride it a few blocks then smash it and stomp on it so that nobody can ever use it again. (for those of you not in a DFL septic tank, that is what happens.) That is at least a major factor in the demoralization going on right now. It’s not the being stolen from part, it’s the senseless destruction (all while screeching that there is not enough to go around).
So very true….
Too many people have no respect for themselves.
I go to this Donut shop every morning. It is not unusual at all to see women show-up in their pajamas and slippers. There is no pride or decency.
People travel on planes in their PJ’s…..
My dad was a captain at TWA back in the day. We travelled dressed to the nines, as did everybody else.
Ah, I remember it well. Oh, for the days when individuals took pride in their appearance.
Now too many take dressing in comfort while in public to an unsightly extreme.
The first day I started high school, a teacher described an experience she had to us. She needed to run out for an errand but did not want to properly dress up and groom herself. She didn’t wear pajamas or sweats, that wasn’t a thing in the early seventies in public among adults usually. But she did well old house clothes and not put on makeup, etc.
She ran into her boyfriend and his mother, a true lady with regal bearing and great pride, and she’d never met her. If you live in the South, you can imagine from those times the truly majestic presence and beauty and pride of these older black women. They had power and presence, so many of them.
Anyhow, this striking and beautiful teacher, probably in her thirties at the time (seemed so old to me then!) related her shame and embarrassment. She apologized for her appearance later and the boyfriend told her that when you go out in public your dress and grooming reflect who you are to all who see you, not to apologize. One must assume you chose what to convey. She was of course chastened embarrassed, and was trying vainly to impress on a bunch of stupid ill groomed kids in neon colored polyester shirts and jeans and hip huggers a sense of pride. Most of us weren’t wise enough to embrace her lesson.
I didn’t grow up in the South, but I did move here about 30 years ago, and no woman even went outside for the morning paper or to see her kids off on the bus without getting showered, dressed and makeup on. Not sure if it has changed too much, but the younger set does show up in a lot of “casual” stuff that wouldn’t fly back then.
I ived in Charleston in the late 70’s-early 80’s…the ‘South of Broad’ crowd was impeccably dressed even in the Piggly Wiggly. There was also a dress code for the Navy and Air Force commissaries.
Does the old phrase, “you only get one chance to make a first impression” still matter? I agree to a point here about not apologizing for “who” you are…but people also make judgements…
The older black women that I knew, were as you describe…and very kind…mixed in with ‘power and presence” oh to find those times again! Simpler and dignified with self assurance in one’s own sense of self worth.
No standards for public or even private behavior…we have lost a lot of dignity with the onset of the ‘casual’ lifestyle. From pj’s and slippers to straps showing on one’s shoulders from underneath the spaghetti strap tank top.
The loss of dignity is what is leading to the demise of our societal norms. The loss of dignity, I believe, equates with a loss of “pride” in one’s self…while too much pride leads to arrogance (can we say HRC?)….but the basics of cleanliness and how we dress out in public…there is no second thought to appearance. yeah I know, don’t judge a book by its cover…however…appearances speak volumes of our own self confidence.
Rummage around and see if you can find Alfred Hitchcock’s movie: The Birds, circa 1950s. Everyone passing by in the streets is finely dressed. The men wear coats, ties and hats. The woman wear dresses and high heels.
If you were to fast-forward sixty years to the area where Hitchcock did his filming, you would find men wearing loincloths and defecating in the streets.
The locale? San Fransisco.
Who could have predicted in 1950 that Progressivism would rapidly lead to barbarism?
I suppose at that time
there were astute individuals who understood progressivism and could and maybe did predict the that very outcome
The Shadow knows indeed ….
Ooooh, you will be shadow banned by Twitter for daring to post that fact.
The side effects are still happening 😛
Covid-infected man, 77, develops ‘restless anal syndrome’ which left him unable to sit still (and going to the toilet didn’t help…)
U can read the article at Daily Mail if interested 🙂
Is that FJB?
I’ll take your word for it.
LOL!
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“Restless Anal Syndrome” … is that a category Sean Connery points out to Alex Trebek on “Celebrity Jeopardy”?
Boogywstew I call it the “makes my ass want to chew tobacco” syndrome!
Good name for a punk band.
I just cut back on the prune juice.
I know I have been the poster child on here of being gripped with fear
I was afraid in the beginning of Covid but not like I am these past couple of months.
It started when I saw Pierre Kory’s tweet saying that Ivermectin wasn’t working and they were demoralized and afraid.
I kept my eye on what’s going on, they doubled the dose of ivermectin and stressed to treat as soon as symptoms appear, do not wait. So Ivermectin efficacy dropped from being effective in all stages of Covid to just early treatment. They also say you must treat as early as possible because you are in the hospital by day 4 or 5.
The other aspect of my fear is that no doctor in my region that I know of would prescribe early treatment and I have a primary care doctor that I do not trust due to that and would not even read my materials.
Then there’s the totalitarian practice of not filling Ivermectin prescriptions. The pharmacists are not backing down. The other choice is the price gouging at pharmacies that are for an otherwise cheap drug.
The biggest aspect of my fear is going to the hospital with worsening Covid and being given the death drug of Remdesivir and a vent, assuring my demise or my loved one’s.
I don’t know if my husband would be able to stand up to Cleveland Clinic or University Hospital to get a proper protocol. Or myself for that matter. Look at the cases that have gone to court, one judge in Ohio ended up pulling the IVM from a patient. They have deeper pockets than us and much more powerful. We might have to take the time to drive to a Dayton hospital where Dr. Wagshul has privileges.
The vaccine mandates have been very oppressive and although not personally affected, FOR NOW, I am very distressed at seeing everyone else faced with this at their places of employment.
Our rights and liberties have been stripped.
And right now, I can only focus on my family surviving Covid and how to do it.
And then on top of it, someone here posted that monoclonal antibodies are going to be pulled in 30 days from Missouri. So another early treatment, this time approved, being pulled. For what? Why? There is no supply shortage, I had talked to Regeneron.
My thoughts exactly! And I’ve reached out to our congressman, senator, even President Trump, and all I get are form letters. Where is the truth, that there is SOMEBODY in DC that is aware, against this madness, and planning to do something about it?
I never got a letter back from Governor DeWine but this is what I wrote him before Biden put the hammer down on monoclonal antibodies and “equitable” distribution!
Dear Governor DeWine,
You have reported the Delta variant is raging through Ohio. One helpful thing you can do is to make Regeneron monoclonal antibodies available for all Ohioans without a referral that has a positive Covid test , at least for those in high risk category, but apparently, the Delta isn’t that discriminatory and I think it should be available for anyone symptomatic and in early phase. This would prevent many hospitalizations. It would be important to not have a delay in trying to get a referral as I’m sure many primary care doctors don’t even know how to write the script including the time it would take in obtaining it and the ER is too expensive for everyone to do so through there.
I hear that many monoclonal antibody treatment centers are not seeing a lot of traffic and I think it is a forgotten option.
It’s bad enough that after 19 months into this pandemic that there still is no early treatment protocol from any major health institution in Ohio and throughout the nation. Of course, there are many independent doctors that have instituted early treatment protocols with available therapeutic drugs that have a long safety record that have been successful in early Covid positive patients that rapidly recovered. The war and propaganda on early treatment is unconscionable and I have lost trust in our health care institutions.
Remdesivir should have a black box warning as it can cause kidney failure and multiple organ damage, worsens pneumonia and patient outcomes, studies have shown this. It is a failed ebola drug that should be pulled. They are not giving proper treatment in the hospital for Covid and that is why you will continue to see deaths from this. The vent should be avoided as there is an 80% increase of death. I know of a fully vaccinated <30 woman who is on the ventilator who will need dialysis and I doubt she will recover.
These vaccines have allowed the virus to still circulate as it’s not providing sterilizing immunity, it has no long term safety, many historical safety protocols have been breached in bringing this mRNA technology for public consumption. I know of many people who have been chronically debilitated by them and even died. I have a history of postural tachycardia syndrome and am not a candidate for the mRNA therapy. I also know of many who are fully vaccinated and got Covid. We will continue to see more resistant deadly strains much like antibiotic resistant bacteria each time a vaccinated person contracts the virus and lets it escape because they are not truly immunized. Endless boosters would continue to cause a decline in health.
All of this would be avoided if effective early treatments with proven long term safety records are instituted. The people see early treatment is being thwarted and are angry.
The least you can do is make the antibodies available without a referral. The NIH and CDC was kind enough to let us have that.
With great concern,
I just checked on what I had written and said for example the less than 30 year old vaccinated woman who had Covid and on the vent. She was probably given Remdesivir and was going to need dialysis. It was from a Twitter account, I think the guy is real. I just saw that she did pass away, 26 years old.
I worked in an inner city ICU a year ago, the belly of the beast. The illness I saw was called Covid. The symptoms and effects were the same. Hispanics were hit very hard. Many had received remdesivir.
People died and we could almost predict the timing…and most died of cardiac arrest, with a type of rhythm call “pulseless electrical activity” and that is almost always caused by a huge blood clot in the lungs, called a “PE”.
Its real. Why some get it and some don’t? I don’t know. So far, I have been very blessed.
Remdesivir.
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/09/doctor_claims_covid_treatment_meant_to_kill_patients.html
She probably died from the vax, not from covid. This is happening everywhere, but not reported.
Excellent letter. Kaco. ((Hugs))
Excellent letter. Too bad that nothing will come of it.
It can be used as evidence of malfeasance at his impeachment trial.
Awesome letter, Kaco! The medical “establishment” has completely thrown science out the window. With the AMA threatening physicians, we have full medical tyranny. I want to know who is being paid.
I am finding that fear is making highly intelligent people lose their ability to make sound judgments. I apply that to the medical “establishment” as well. We know this has nothing to do with our health…however, the Fauci/Gates/CCP virus can be unnerving and very costly to your health.
What astonishes me is the fact that we can NOT treat this as just another cold virus…it is indeed bioengineered to be highly virulent. You can’t think that it will just go away so you have to be aggressive at the very first signs and symptoms and can NOT let it get into your lungs. All of the ideas listed here and elsewhere are great and effective. The monoclonal antibodies are fairly new so there is also a “learning curve” on those. The actual name is REGEN-COV and is NOT approved by the FDA (which really means nothing anymore). It is also available under the EUA…
https://www.regencov.com/
I will pray for you, as well as others who are fearful.
The damage being done by the shots will be the greatest crime of mankind when all is said and done. And the CEO’s of these companies will never be held accountable as long as the experimental meds stay in EUA status.
You wrote an excellent, well-researched letter. Did it bring an equally lucid reply?
I suspect the Governor saw all the technical terminology and then stuffed it back in the envelope while muttering, “Doesn’t this man know I deal only in made-for-media sound bites?”
There’s certainly things you can do. Supplements… Quercetin, zinc, D3, C, NAC. Find a telemedicine doctor and mail order pharmacy that can get you Ivermectin now.
Also realize that going to the hospital in “4-5 days” is still a tiny percentage of people.
If you let this situation paralyze you with fear, you’re already missing out on life.
Beyond that, if you are a Christian, realize that your fate is not in the hands of any human. We are in a very temporary state of being…dust in the wind.
Thank you for the reminder in your last. I have prepared. My youngest son became ill over the weekend and I broke out the Covid war chest. It kept everyone else healthy and my son’s fever broke and he improved but then developed a dry cough and the sore throat returned. He was still Covid negative after another retest. But one has to treat every illness as if it is Covid, meanwhile scared one will miss the monoclonal antibody window for treatment.
I had all that you posted and more, based on various studies. But my son still had breakthrough cough and sore throat and this morning he said he tasted blood in his mouth after coughing. So we went to his pediatrician this afternoon and he’s on a Z-pack. The Covid supplements weren’t cutting it.
I have 90 pills of IVM and four tubes of apple flavored horse paste. My husband’s IVM is coming through one box at a time a week at a steep price. It’s outrageous.
On top of that, when I did take IVM, it surprised me so, it was a hyperclearance of my head and I perspired for 30 minutes, all unexpectedly, on the 2nd dose, it took my breath away. Got a pulse ox now for my nerves as much as watching 02 sats. I also felt pain and pressure behind my eyes for three days and in my frontal sinus after IVM. I almost wanted to go to an ophthalmologist but I held off because I don’t want to screw it up for anyone. I am the exception with medication sensitivities but I’d rather try Regeneron at this point.
I’ve been suspecting more and more that I’ve been affected by vaccinated people shedding. I’ve had some physical and neurological issues since June as well as my anxiety being stirred up more so. It’s very much like my being in the throes of taking Flagyl 6 years ago and I’ve been through and sat by my father while he passed away two years ago without feeling like this. I know it’s stirred up the POTS again that the Flagyl caused as it had slowly faded away as well as the heart arrhythmias.
What was the source of the IVM that gave you those side effects?
Was it an Indian Pharmacy?
Edenbridge. I mean it when I say I have medication sensitivities but not to everything. I do know I have no reaction to penicillin still, thankfully. I had full confidence in IVM having no side effects. My husband says to me he will make me take it again! But this was at the regular dose, God knows how it would be at this double dose.
Honestly, I am suspecting i have a leaky brain barrier or possibly a gene that gives me this sensitivity. I sort of read about it later.
It’s very sad that we all must distrust the medical profession and turn ourselves into physicians. Hang in there. Someone wrote there has been a 14% decrease in covid cases over the past couple weeks.
Thank you and I really appreciate having this place to vent about it.
Also, the Treepers that post about their ethical doctors give me hope, I wish I could find someone here.
Although our school district has daily cases they are reporting, I see our county is supposed to be starting the down slope on this variant.
I pray they get it together before the next one, we need early treatment period. The vaccine boosters are not the way.
Our grandkids and daughter are living with us at the moment.
The kids are in school and come home with sniffles and coughs. Like in the years before, first week of school, first cold.
We are on quercetin C D and zinc. Also other supplements.
Doing well so far.
That’s good to hear, we are having a bit of a surge in this area.
Supplements really do help.
Have you ever tried or read about Ayurvedic medicine?
I like the holistic approach.
We fought a revolutionary war in the midst of a smallpox pandemic a thousand times worse than this.
Exactly! How many times have I heard the refrain “ I no longer trust my doctor”?
Anxiety doesn’t help, either. It creates a kind of hyper vigilance in the body and in the mind that tends to zero in on any signal that might indicate danger and the mind and body are off and running. I wish you well and hope you can carve out a space of peace within yourself. You’re going to great lengths to take care of yourself and your family. At some point, I hope you can be reasonably content with all that you’ve done and exhale.
Thanks, Sarah, I know you were there when I was sounding the FLCCC alarm on IVM! Damn, that threw me for a loop. I was at peace before all that and before the war on IVM now. Now a war on the monoclonal antibodies??? it’s very sad at least what our medical establishment has sunk to.
These are, indeed, challenging times. We do what we can (I’d say you’ve got that base covered) and dig deep to find the confidence we will get through.
It is sad, criminal in fact, what medical care has become. But we can only control so much and then we cope. You are quite likely far more informed and well stocked than most Americans.
In the case of covid, the search for all the right meds to have on hand and finding them can become a bottomless pit of activity. I hope you won’t let it consume you because at a certain point in the quest to help yourself (and your family) you’re starting to harm yourself.
Anxiety can be addictive on a deep unconscious level. The body pumps out stress hormones like cortisol and adrenaline and there’s a strange rush of energy (even if it feels crappy). I hope you can shift the activity in your brain so your body can settle a bit. It’s hard. But I think you’ll be better for it.
Sending prayers and good wishes….
Thank you, I had to do the search and it was stressful, it took me over a week, I think, to figure it out, I think finding the right dosages, forms, and brands were the hardest part, also considering the fillers, too.
Yes, indeed, it makes me feel inflamed at times, and I know that’s not good.
I have an appointment with a naturopath this coming week and I hope she can help me out with some good supplements to help my issues that I had neglected all this time. It’s not acute anymore, it is chronic. It makes me wonder if there would have been something to offset the effects of the Flagyl.
Thanks very much for the reminder and good advice!
Meditation helps too.
Stress is very bad for the immune system.
“It is sad, criminal in fact, what medical care has become.”
The AMA is a medical cartel. As with OPEC, the goal is to restrict supply and drive up price.
They have been phenomenally successful.
Good post Sarah Lee!
Not sure exactly where I read it, but most likely Treehouse, Refuge on Twitter, or Epoch Times. Might have been in an article or a comment.
That said, someone wrote that they had asked an elderly man about his experience with Ivermectin. He had told them that he couldn’t SEE for a few hours in the morning. But after that cleared up, it was ok.
I’m not sure if he was talking about just on the days that he took it, or every day. I’m sorry to have some missing info there, but I did want to let you know I had seen that about vision. That part greatly interests me, too, and my Covid Cabinet is also stocked with Ivermectin.
I wonder if the fact that IVM is widely used in Africa for River Blindness could have anything to do with this.
Anyone having contact with one of the Patriot Doctors, please see what you can find out and let us know!
Thank you, I am seriously considering a consult with one of the knowledgeable doctors about it. Yes, it seemed like my eyesight was also diminished and it concerned me. Also, my chest felt constricted that evening and into the next day when I took the 2nd dose and I’ve never had an anaphylactic reaction to any medication, it was really strange but it sure cleared the brain fog and my internal fever! That was gone for those three days, too.
I don’t want to frighten anyone off about this because this is a life saving drug, just wish I could get answers to my questions and there are no doctors here to talk to about it.
I’ve been on .3mg/kg ivermectin daily orally for 11 days with absolutely no side effects whatsoever. This is a very safe drug with a wide range of tolerance. Certainly, individuals might have unique sensitivity to it, but more likely one is seeing the effects of the virus on his body or even in the process of being killed, rather than the effects of the drug. Naturally it is illegal for me to give my covid -infected 96 1/2 year old mother any medication, but she is doing well, too.
There has been an outbreak of Mucormycosis in India. “Black mould” enters through the nasal passages and could lead to blindness and death if untreated.
Ivermectin was used to good effect against COVID in India but does it somehow open the user to to another disease? Is this correlation or causality?
The best way forward would be for physicians to prescribe and carefully monitor Ivermectin’s effectiveness against COVID and watch for side-effects.
Now that COVID is politicized, dissenting voices are being suppressed and doctors are actively discouraged from adopting this approach.
When the truth is finally made known, we may discover that we have been negligently murdered by our own government.
I have a friend who takes IVM for lupus. Sge has to have her eyes checked every year because it can cause detached retinas. She has not had a problem, but that would infer that it is possible for it to have an effect on the eyes.
I took IVM for a month. 5 pills a week. No side effects.
And that is a normal report! Glad it went well!
The reason my husband is afraid of horse ivermectin is the carriers that then Med is in. Check to see if it is propylene glycol or anything else not good?
I can’t remember which we took. Not sure if we didn’t take bad one before he read label.
I think one has it and the other doesn’t. Also, hcq is what we use at first sign of sore throat Mr. Bio tells me it is a cure for common cold as well.
Someone got the manufacturer’s ingredients document from the company and posted it, I know it’s in my bookmarks. I got so many it’s hard to fish it out. This was the apple flavor Durovet (sp).
Now, I was fearful of HCQ because of potential psycho or neuro effects, although not as bad as the original chloroquine. That’s another reason I was very gung ho on the super bullet of IVM, at least until delta.
I was wondering why you asked about an Indian Pharmacy?
I ordered some IVM through one.
I haven’t received them yet but I am concerned now about ordering from them.
Luckily, I am not sick now.
In retrospect, I wish I had contacted Frontline Doctors instead.
I would be very interested if you have any information about this.
Thanks
If you can secure a local pharmacy to fill, I’d do the pushmed that Kleen posted about below. It was a big rigmarole with Frontline Doctors this time with my husband’s order.
I’d like to know about ordering Ivermectin from one of those Mexican pharmacies on the flccc.net and if that would be authentic and safe. You hear about people getting meds from Mexico because they’re cheaper before this but I’ve never done it. And you never know because now there is such a desperation for this drug.
The American pharmaceutical cartel hates competition so it’s illegal to have meds shipped from abroad.
Not for Mexico, they can ship stuff all day long, but if the shipment is caught in our customs, our freedom loving gov will confiscate it and destroy it. So you will be out of money.
If not caught, then you get your meds.
Many Pharmacies in Mexico are run by the drug cartels so be careful with that. Some are well know to be bad news.
I’m not familiar with the pharmacies there, but just research before pulling the trigger.
If the Drs on this flccc have license here and in Mexico then you are fine. Totally legal and probably safe.
Canada is the same, many drs are licensed in the US and Canada and through them you can legally purchase meds from Canada.
The FLCCC have pharmacies listed but are not really endorsing them at the same time. Also one in Canada that sends Indian made pills.
There’s also compounding pharmacies but I’d rather have the 3 mg in case I have to adjust my dose.
I have seen some news about counterfeit drugs being shipped from various places. I can see how that would happen.
I have done it for a particularly expensive medicine that wasn’t covered by insurance and where I live people do it all the time. It’s fine. I have a friend who is seriously disabled and she gets all her meds by going to Yuma, Arizona and walking across the border. I have other friends who are multi millionaires who travel to Mexico for all their dental care from Northern California. He was even a hospital administrator. IMHO it would be authentic and safe but the prices seem to be going up.
Thanks for your information!
I live in NY.
Doctors are not allowed to prescribe IVM or HQQ for Covid.
Pharmacies are not allowed to fill the scripts if they know it’s for Covid either.
Gov. Cuomo mandated this by EO. It said Doctors and Pharmacist would loose their licenses if they didn’t comply.
I don’t know if the EO is still valid now that Cuomo has resigned.
However, I don’t know of any Doctors who will prescribe or Pharmacies that would fill the prescription here in NY.
I know people from many parts of the state and noone has been able to get it.
I’m concerned about the IVM I ordered being authentic. Supposed to be from India Pharmacy but phone # was from CA and it’s being shipped from Canada.
Thanks for your reply.
Best wishes to you and your family.
I wish you the best and I don’t know either and would like to know. All I can say is that I’ve seen others post elsewhere that they’ve taken the Indian made version.
I missed the FLCCC podcast tonight so I don’t know of an update, but I wish they could say we can just get these other brands instead of us having to hound pharmacies and their corporate headquarters that doesn’t do anything when there is an urgent need.
What you could do is get a tablet evaluated at an independent lab, if you can figure out where to find one. I know someone did when they thought the Edenbridge wasn’t working, it tested just fine and was what it stated. It was probably because the delta needs a higher dose.
Thanks!
I was thinking of taking it to a pharmacy that is local that does compound drugs to see if they would test it for me.
I’ve used them before.
Florida has many pharmacies that fill a prescription for ivermectin. I found a compounding pharmacy in Vernon, CT https://www.pioneerhealthcenter.com/
I received my ivermectin promptly using an approved mail agent for a small fee.
Thanks for the information.
Stay well!
I have a bunch coming from India. Why do you ask?
There has been some chatter about Spanish nursing homes that have successfully (100% is the claim) treated with mostly OTC medicines since Spring of 2020. I posted a link to one of the articles in the last day or two but don’t recall just which article. It may or may not be true, but it makes a lot of sense to me. A key element of their protocol is to stop the colonization in the sinuses at the outset. Treat with basics (Claritin, Zyrtek, or equivalent) to clear out your sinuses at the first signs. Repel the invasion before the beachhead is fully established.
For a few dollars you can purchase generics of those brand names and have on hand. For a few more dollars you can purchase at-home screening tests for privacy, something that would be an issue if you need to follow sound advice and hop a plane to someplace sane.
Thank you. Yes, I understand the virus replicates fast in the nasal passages as well as throat, we are all using this Betadine iota carrageenan nasal spray when out in public and returning home. I also got some betadine throat gargle, which is a lot more soothing than the Crest mouthwash that burns my throat to where I can’t tell if I have a sore throat from that or something else. I also have done the Neil med nasal rinse with a few drops of betadine for myself and I had my sick son do it, too. No one else will do it for now, but they didn’t feel ill.
I will look into the antihistamines but those might play on my nerves, maybe not the rest of the family, though. I know I can’t take Pepcid either after a couple experiences of trying it, but it didn’t injure me like the Flagyl.
Ditto on the Betadine throat gargle, which DOES contain iodine.
It seems to nip a sore throat in the bud when used at the first sign. Very soothing, too. Good to use before bedtime.
I would recommend using an iodine solution named Lugol’s Solution from this website: https://www.jcrowsllc.com/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIkLmV78qm8wIVmaCGCh3nCAkZEAAYASAAEgKXqvD_BwE
You can make a nasal spray with it or even take drops of Lugol’s solution orally.
Thank you, Wood Elf!
I will try the 2% for starters.
Yes. Use nascent iodine. Any nascent iodine will do. Dad was hypothyroid. You learn to McGuyver a lot of stuff.
Speaking of stopping the colonization in the sinuses, Betadine nasal spray, which does NOT contain iodine, can be helpful.
It works mechanically, so to speak, rather than medicinally in that it encapsulates the virus cells and renders them unable to penetrate healthy cells.
Plus, it’s natural; it contains a form of sea moss.
Yes! That’s what I got, but from a Canadian pharmacy as Amazon wants an arm and a leg and no one else carries it. I ordered 8 bottles for the 4 of us and it was a bit of an investment but still cheaper per bottle from there. I also have XClear but it’s also kind of harsh and prefer the Betadine Defence Nasal spray.
Yes, I get the ‘Canadian packaging’ one also because as you say, the price difference.
Not only is this a good defense (always use it before going out), but I can attest to its effectiveness in treating symptoms.
A few months ago, I was having a major allergy or sinus attack – or something! One nostril completely blocked, eyes running like crazy. I used the Betadine Defence Nasal Spray as directed —one squirt in each nostril, and within 5 minutes, I could freely breathe through both nostrils, and eyes completely stopped running! It was nothing short of miraculous for me!
For that reason, it has become a staple in this household.
Price has fluctuated from 9ish dollars to $30.00.
I believe it!
So, the day before my son got sick, I had a somewhat sore throat that morning (of course concerned) and oddly, left jaw pain when opening and closing, out of nowhere. I have no dental issues that I know of.
Anyway, ironically I read a post someone made here about the Betadine gargle which was an article on The Blaze about how now they are ripping the Betadine treatments and even Betadine made a statement on their website about how the gargle won’t treat Covid. That made me look into it further, also knowing that the FLCCC has it on their protocol. I had been using that Crest which wasn’t very comforting.
I found some that evening and used it and 80% of the jaw pain was gone almost right after as well as that sore throat! The next morning after trying it, it was gone 95% and then later completely.
My concern now is that it is sold out locally at the national chains and it looks like the Drug Marts around here where I did find it, it was on clearance. I got it at a good price but now I’m wondering if they are stopping carrying it because it does work! Geez! At any rate, I now have 5 bottles.
And then that Neil med nasal rinse. That sure cleans the gunk out! It is strangely invigorating after using, I do not heat it, just room temp distilled water.
X Clear gives me a stuffy nose after, not too fond of it but it’s more available.
I’ll have to look into that Neil med nasal rinse. Never heard of it. Thanks!
There’s something very sinister going on when they make effective non Rx products AND meds harder to find, as well as more expensive, or take them off the market completely.
Evil.
Oh, now I see the nasal rinse thing is a whole apparatus. Don’t think I can get into all that.
I like to keep it simple when I can.
I hear ya, I had never done a nasal rinse before this! But it’s not that complicated. What I am dragging on is the investment into a Puremist if we would need it. Then you have to think about getting an actual nebulizer if you would need budesonide. The Neil med was only when ill, not a daily like the nasal spray! it was only 12 at Drug Mart and I saw Walgreens wanted 27! So check your prices if you change your mind!
Nebulizers are easy to buy on Amazon for about $50. I have one by Wave medical products that I have dropped three times and it still works well. Because I have COPD, I have used Albuteral for nebulizer frequently in the past(it’s cheap), and it has a greater volume of absorption than the puff. I’ve used it daily since I have been infected, and it opens things up well.
Kaco, I looked into the Neilmed rinse again, and I see it’s not an apparatus. I was wrong to say that in a previous comment.
It seems to work on the same principle as a Neti Pot, which I have used on occasion in the past.
I got spooked out of using it, though, after seeing a (Dr) House episode, where the patient’s problems were caused by an amoeba that traveled to his (her? long time ago) brain from using a Neti Pot with unsterile water. ? ?
Silly, I know. I may pull out the old Neti, give it a good cleaning and if I do use it, the water will be distilled and/or boiled.
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Saltwater helped me.
You brought back a childhod memory. My mother used to have us gargle with salt dissolved in water whenever we had a sore throat. A cheap remedy for poor people.
I copied your post from yesterday to my list of covid protocol suggestions from the treehouse. Here it is –
Between March and April 2020, 84 elderly patients with suspected COVID-19 living in two nursing homes of Yepes, Toledo (Spain) were treated early with antihistamines (dexchlorpheniramine, cetirizine or loratadine), adding azithromycin in the 25 symptomatic cases.
Those are regular over the counter allergy meds. I cetririzine is Zytec and
loratadine is Claritin.. I have use both but the Zytec makes me sleepy so
I usually use claritin during the daytime.
Certainly sounds like you are prepared.
I know the virus and medicines can affect everyone differently.
I’ve worked around quite a few people that have wound up sick with COVID and had symptoms around me. I have been fortunate enough to stay well.
But I am also around vaccinated people alot…and I have been in a constant state of having to clear my throat more than usual for months. So I can certainly understand the concern about shedding.
Take care of yourself. God is good.
I know, and appreciate your post. I think what really stirred me up about this virus is the FLCCC and their warnings! So, that coupled with a poor healthcare system here is very anxiety inducing. The irony is we’re supposed to have the best healthcare systems here in NE Ohio and they can’t even come up with any kind of good protocol after all these months. And Cleveland Clinic doctors tell me still to this day, there is no treatment for Covid.
Dr. Malone warned against the Ivermectin horse paste – said it was for horses and not humans due to a different chemical composition. When using ivermectin, it should be the made for human tablets.
Thanks, I did use the Edenbridge. But I have seen a lot of accounts about the horse paste and the other ingredients are nothing to be concerned about as well. If it’s life or death, horse paste it is. I know in that article, The Drug that Cracked Covid, they did use horse paste among the peasants in South America.
I stress, I am the exception, though, I haven’t seen any other reports about the pills or otherwise and don’t trust the propaganda that came about those so-called hospital reports. But it just adds to my stress. I will take it if I have to, I think.
I used the FLCCC site to find a provider( Janna Mustafina) who gave a Zoom presentation before she would prescribe ivermectin. Here is what I learned: If you have asthma you should have an epi-pen available due to potential allergic reactions FOR THE FIRST DOSE, people with liver disease should not take it. People using anti-viral meds for HIV or Herpes-daily should NOT take ivermectin. If you experience nausea you should drink more water. Don’t take quercetin on the same day as you take ivermectin.
Kind of doubting him on this. The 1% liquid IVM is easy to dose properly, and many have used it successfully.
It is the carrier. Check labels. One is made with propylene glycol.
Dr. Malone spoke about veterinary Ivermectin preparations during an American Thought Leaders interview. What he said there was that he was familiar with the horse paste. He has horses. He is taking the human Ivermectin tablets for his long COVID. He said he would never take the liquid for animals.
The way he phrased his commentary was rather sly. He actually did not warn against using the horse paste although he did point out that it is formulated differently and to different standards than the human preparation. He even pointed out that Ivermectin is dosed by weight and the dose is the same for humans as for horses. That part of the interview occurs during the first 12 minutes.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/part-2-dr-robert-malone-on-ivermectin-escape-mutants-and-the-faulty-logic-of-vaccine-mandates_3981859.html
Yes, and from what I hear, people have been using the horse paste before Covid. Apparently, IVM has a big safety dosage range, too. I remember asking the doctor on mine if I would lose weight, she said, oh, there’s no worries there. And considering the FLCCC doctors are doubling it.
No doctor will tell you it’s ok to take the product made for horses. If you are interested in doing that you should read the ingredients of the horse paste and check it out with people who are doing it. Amazon sells it, read the reviews.
Dr. Malone took the Moderna vaccine because he wanted to travel after already having Covid and long haul Covid at that. (Should you be traveling with long haul Covid? Isn’t he still contagious?) His judgment on a personal level is not great.
Now he criticizes the vaccines and says they shouldn’t be given unless you are over 60. If they are bad for under 60 aren’t they also bad or even worse for over 60 year olds? I realize he is trying to weigh the risks for Covid vs.side effects but you could argue that since his career has been in developing vaccines and working with the FDA and CDC he is still an insider and biased and doesn’t want to come out against the vaccines completely.
What you wrote is very interesting….about your reaction to IVM….I thought it was just me, the pressure at the front of my skull while on IVM… Good to know someone else experienced same for future reference should I use again.
Stay strong…I am certain your son will recover…make sure that he is well hydrated on top of all else you are doing for him.. I might add that the zpack didnt help me, but doxycyline did……but these drugs all act differently person to person….
I will say this:
I was afraid while sick with COVID because I had no life experience to fall back upon to give me the right tools to fight this frickin thing, and nothing I did helped me….but while in Galveston seeking salt air I went to an Urgent Care at the beach.
This Urgent Care had to be the nicest Urgent Care I have ever been to…fully stocked with free healthful food and snacks and drinks…clean and the nicest staff. While there, I began to cry because I wasnt getting better, my lungs were heavy and I was very weak…my ‘fight ‘ was depleted…I admit I was afraid…doctor and Nurses reassured me and gave me such insight about Covid that I had theretofore never read nor heard…and I have read a lot.
I left so reassured, so full of inner peace, and my ‘fight’ returned.
The point of my story above is that weeks later while going through the papers they handed to me while at this Urgent Care I read that they are in fact a Christian based Care Center…
My trek to Galveston to get well brought me to them, and they renewed my strength via words and medicine.
So…please hold onto your Faith when you feel fear rising…He is there within and around you….I have always believed that, and this experience reinforced that belief…
Take care….
Thank you so much, Kathryn, your story has touched me so. I believe God led you there. Thank God you are well and he led you to caring people.
I appreciate your relating to me about your IVM experience. I really would like to know more about it. It didn’t injure me as it went away but it was a little scary and my eye muscles felt very uncomfortable when moving them. I tried looking it up to no avail.
Advise from ER nurse given to my friend.
If you are fighting COVID
and your temp stays up to 102-106 go the hospital, that is the only way you will get Antibiotic & steroid for Covid, which will at least help you fight it some. Do not wait, until it’s to late, they will either admit you or send you home to fight it.
At home treatment:
1. You are to sleep on your stomach, at all time with Covid. If you can’t sleep on your stomach because of heath issue then SLEEP ON YOUR SIDE. DO NOT LAY ON YOUR BACK NO MATTER WHAT!! It smashes your Lungs, which will let fluid set into your Lungs.
Set your clock every 2 hours, while sleeping on your stomach. Get out of bed and WALK 30 min. NO matter how TIRED you are or WEAK!! While walking make sure to work out your arms. This will help open your lungs.
2. Breath in thru your NOSE, and out thru you MOUTH. This will help build up your lungs, plus help get rid of the Pneumonia, or what ever Fluid you might have building into your body.
When setting in a recliner, sit up straight do not lay back in the recliner, it will smash you Lungs. While watching TV walk during commercial. Then relax again straight up.
3. Use Purmist personal vaporizer with distilled water only at least 2 times daily for 20 minutes.
4. Eat at least 1 or 2 eggs a day, plus bananas, avocado, asparagus these are good for Potassium. Smoothies of Blue Berries, Strawberries, Bananas, Honey, tea spoon peanut butter (if you can eat Peanut Butter.) I was told to eat Berries.”
With the DIARRHEA which almost everyone get, it can wipe your potassium. I drank Pedialyte, Gatorade Zero, Powerade Zero & Water with Electrolytes.
The nurse told me not to drink anything Cold, drink straight from the bottle, or warm it up.
Water with Lemon, and little Honey, Peppermint Tea, Apple Cider, what ever you can drink.
NO MILK PRODUCTS, or PORK MEAT.
5. Vitamin’s D3, C, B, Zinc, Probiotic One-Day, and what ever other Vitamins you can take.
Tylenol for fever. Mucinex, or Mucinex DM for drainage, plus helps out on the COUGH, you will get.
If you do not start feeling better and are getting worse, go to ER.
Egg has Vit D
Thanks, Kleen! I’ve seen this post before and copied it. Maybe it was from on here.
I wonder what’s up with the pork, though. I can see how milk can add to the congestion.
Here’s another one, when you take ivermectin, make sure it’s with food. Otherwise, it will be only a GI effect clean out and you want it to go to your bloodstream. If you had parasites, you take it without food. But with food for Covid.
White blood cells disappear for a while after eating pork. Take a blood sample and they’re nowhere to be seen.
Agree LBK – I have never been afraid of covid – because I am trusting God with my life, not the evil, corrupt government. Also, as soon as I heard about this virus I knew without any doubt that it was just another attempt to get rid of Trump. They will say or do ANYTHING to accomplish this goal. For me, it was just a little too coincidental and convenient to be legit. I noticed in the grocery store today the Inquirer has a headline about covid being a hoax. Maybe this is the beginning of the truth getting out. Sad it had to come from from the Inquirer but – whatever.
I needed to hear this – thanks!
Betadine solution is good to have on hand. mix 1/2 teaspoon in a 44ml saline nasal spray. couple sprays each nostril 3 times a day. Mix a little lighter and gargle. Another treeper posted the link to the doctor’s testimony and I could tell it was sincere and honest – why not – no money to be made – prolly means betadine will disappear
Here’s a good one,
And this guy demonstrates it!
Precisely so. Bless you for stating the truth with such clarity.
Kaco, the minute that you test positive get on a non-stop flight to Orlando Florida and go directly to the DeSantis Clinic for monoclonal antibodies treatment! There are probably dozens of non-stop flights from Cleveland and Cincinnati to Orlando each day. Do your research on the addresses of the DeSantis Clinics and hotels in the Orlando area. Take charge of your life and be happy!
Wow, that would be good, who knows if they would mandate a Covid test now before flying. But when my husband travelled there two or three weeks ago, I prepared and sent him a map of all monoclonal antibody places near where he’d be! I had that comfort of knowing, although I did send him with a bunch of pills and some IVM in case.
Isn’t it awful, another early effective treatment we’ve heard great things about and it is either being restricted or pulled! These people are so evil.
What about the poor thin guy at age 39 with a wife and two kids, fully vaccinated, but died of Covid a month after diagnosis. No underlying conditions and good BMI, so would not have qualified for the Regeneron.
I fully believe everyone should be able to get it. Enough screwing around with these dangerous vaccines that will not end the pandemic!
Hi,
Would you mind telling me where you got the IVM from?
I don’t think it’s the easiest, but through America’s Frontline Doctors. I had no problem when I did mine in June and filled it locally with Good Rx but we waited too long for my husband’s supply and it took a while to call him, then the pharmacy wanted like $500 for 60 pills so we transferred it but we’re still paying through the nose, and they will only send it as one box a week. No one else will fill it locally now.
If you have a pharmacy that will fill it, I suggest going through what Kleen as posted below, they can send it there rather than the AFLD’s Speak with an MD who only sends it to one of their pharmacies.
I got mine through a doctor on the list of American front line doctors.
On their website they list states with doctors.
But now pharmacies are not honoring prescriptions.
Good luck.
Thanks Kristen!
can you explain what text can conclusively diagnose COVID? Where does such a test exist? Can you explain?
Michael, I have responded to you many times and have checked back to see your response which is none.
This biological weapon from China is real. They have isolated it to test certain drugs and supplements against it many times. I did post that to you.
can someone explain to me how a positive test result means anything when we know the PCR test cannot accurately diagnose anything? This is sheer madness at this point, what people believe.
When I hear people say they got covid for the second time… yeah… false positive.
Kaco, the minute that you test positive get on a non-stop flight to Orlando Florida and go directly to the DeSantis Clinic for monoclonal antibodies treatment! There are probably dozens of non-stop flights from Cleveland and Cincinnati to Orlando each day. Do your research on the addresses of the DeSantis Clinics and hotels in the Orlando area. Take charge of your life and be happy!!!
What life has taught me is that at least 90% of what I worry about never happens.
Look at the facts, only 10% (apx) of our population has gotten COVID and of those 94.4 (apx) overall survival. Personally, this past year, I have had 4 cousins and two friends pass away this year, all untimely and non from COVID.
Wake up everyday giving thanks, living well and healthy, pray for inner peace and strength for you and your family. It is so hard to break the anxiety cycle once it takes hold. I hope you can Kaco. You are a really bright, intelligent woman and you WILL handle whatever comes your way. Trust yourself.
I know oldschool, I am just trying to prepare so I can relax but it’s hard knowing that there is NO ONE here locally that will treat us right.
When I took my son to the doctor this afternoon he told me his chance of dying of Covid are practically nil. I don’t know if he’s that up to date as his own affiliation has reported so many kids in the ICU with Covid here. Of course, they could be lying. But I also don’t want him suffering from long Covid either. The doctor also said how good natural immunity is compared to the vaccine if he would get it. Also said that the vaccinated are carrying much higher viral loads. We did have a little debate about the vaccines, I know he’s vaccinated. I said there was a 1000% increase in adverse effects compared to vaccines in general and I wish I could get some understanding from the medical conmunity why I don’t want to risk myocardiitis in my son with the high incidents reports.
BTW, I thought of you, another vaccine protection protocol, this one from @veryvirology. Not a doctor, but you can look and consider, thought of your son.
https://covidcandy.net/chronicle/vax-prophylaxis-and-autoimmunity-lecture-adam-gaertner/
I have now decided not to pursue the Niacin/Melatonin thing as well as a form of Niacin for hyperlipidemia. Apparently, Niacin is the only B vitamin that can be toxic to the liver in high doses and I already have inherited non alcoholic fatty liver disease that my mother and brother have already died from. I don’t want to injure it. My mother was a health nut and not overweight, my brother drank wine frequently, it’s like throwing gasoline on a fire.
I should add my father on the other hand, was on brand name Niaspan for years, but he had no underlying liver issues and was fine.
So sorry to hear about the sick kids in your area.
We have no children or teens in the hospital here at all.
None are in for anything, perhaps we have a more relazed outdoor style of living that helps us keep the kiddies strong but so far so good.
My I have one daughter in law working as a RN at one local hospital and another one working at a different one here and I asked them how many sick children there were in our valley hospitals (3) they said they would check and get back to me.
They did and told me that we have no sick little ones and none have been flight for lifed out in several months.
We have had a few senior citizens flown out because they have ongoing problems with heart disease or diabetes and tested positive for covid.
People who have these kinds of complications are usually sent to Colorado Springs for treatments that our small hospitals can not provide.
But I guess we have sent only a handful out and our local hospitals seem to be doing well in caring for what ever health problems our area has.
That’s great you don’t have this surge and don’t have to worry about this business. It is reported our school district has the third highest Covid cases. We are in a county outside of the Cleveland/Akron metro, somewhat rural, but we’re actually in town and not in the rural school districts.
What if you believed (try it just as an experiment) that you have prepared so much, not just in terms of learning and amassing medications, but mentally, that if you got covid, you would manage, you would handle it?
What if, even for just a moment or two, you told yourself that you’ve done an amazing job preparing on every level and if you get sick, you will navigate those waters like millions who’ve come before you and those that will follow?
What if you took a breath and remembered that the chances of getting seriously ill from covid are incredibly small and even if, G-d forbid you did get seriously ill, you would make your way through it like so many who’ve come before?
What if you realized that in the bigger scheme of things there are many things that could make you very sick and they don’t all have cures or even great treatment, but we don’t focus on that infinite list of possibilities every day because it would freeze us in fear and render us unable to go about our day and our lives?
Try it. It can be powerful to shift the idea you have of yourself, even for a few minutes, just to get a taste of confidence and to crawl into your adult skin and realize you’re very very capable and actually very very strong.
Thank you, Sarah for your very comforting words. I know I will have to take a break from the news and this website again very soon, at least a little bit. When I did it helped some.
Okay, so everyone here knows I am being very cautious about Covid this time around. The nasal sprays, etc. being done. They know I’ve been studying and preparing to do the best I can.
So last Friday, my son called to ask if he could go to the Pep Rally and I relented. And that evening he wanted to go to the homecoming game and I said yes. I didn’t want to restrict him as I did a couple weeks ago. I told him to do his nasal spray.
But after he got home later that evening in his room, he called my husband, his father, and told him he was getting sick and he was worried about my reaction. My husband then told me, that was our son on the phone. I did stay calm, but was shaking getting out all the pills and passing cups to everyone! Putting on an n-95 to go in my son’s room. I opened his window some to vent and was spraying Lysol in the air, also to cut down on the virus.
But I did stay calm throughout this little ordeal.
So after Saturday’s negative test and his fever and chills, etc., that did break later with a dose of Naproxen and the later day round of supplements, Sunday, he was basically recovered. I was amazed. Did it really work? No one else got sick. But then the later breakthrough sore throat and dry cough with him has left me thinking maybe it wasn’t as effective.
The doctor today said it was probably the RSV and he has bronchitis. Someone here said I could have given him ivermectin, at least a couple of doses.
I think what’s so frustrating is that I think this virus can be handled but no doctor, at least nearby, will do it. So near and yet so far. It’s disturbing, I can go on the Ohio Dept of Health and see a list of lies written about the vaccine, too. This is what we’re up against. Willfully bad science. It is a crime against humanity.
I will read over your words again and digest. Thanks, Sarah.
You’re welcome.
There are many more things I could say all with the intention of helping, but at a certain point I think all the advice, guidance, care, etc just becomes more noise that fuels the noise you already have going on in your head.
I will leave it at this: From reading your posts, I think you are stronger than you know.
Understand your concerns and proactive nature, which is why I am know you are up for almost any challenge. Sounds like your doctor is reasonable at least. Remind yourself of the odds and what you see. I have a very tight rule that really helps me stay out of the extreme fear cycle, Believe only what you see and know. If you don’t know of children sick and hospitalized, don’t believe it. I know here in our hospitals the COVID cases are less than 1 tenth of what they were last year. So for all the talk of “the deadly delta”, not seeing it here. I try to stay “informed” and keep my mind open, but I don’t take anything, from any source as gospel. After almost 2 years, I don’t know of one single child/teen who had anything more than a “flu” (older kids at worst) or needed hospitalization. Our system here is 1800 beds with a sizeable pediatric unit, nada. We know full well if pediatric cases were on the rise the msm would be leading with it trying to vax the kids.
Agree on the niacin. I am as skeptical of supplements as I am of rx. At times moreso. After reading the information you posted and sharing similar conditions, I got back “on the wagon”. I searched up 10 best ani oxidant foods and best ant inflammatory as well as cholesterol lowering. They all go hand in hand. That is the approach for me, absent of symptoms.
Be well Kaco.
If you’re looking for other possible treatments, I thought this was interesting: https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=243683
Cliff notes: consider an antihistamine as prophylaxis.
Very wise words and beautifully said. And, yes, indeed, I think that first sentence is so true. Anxiety tends to anchor itself to “what if’s” and anticipation of disaster. In most cases, the thing feared doesn’t happen and if it does, the person handles it far better than the anticipation of it. And I think that applies to good things as well as bad. Stress and anxiety take hold around good and happy events, as well, such as weddings, births, vacations, etc.
one of my dad’s favorite sayings:
Nothing is ever as good as it at first may seem
Nor is it as bad as it at first may seem
Thank Sara Lee, as are yours. You are so right on anxiety over good events as well. Many a sleepless night spent in anticipation of a happy event.
Where did you see a tweet from Doctor Kory that Ivermectin isn’t working? This is literally the first I’ve heard of it. I would have to see it myself to believe it. Too many people want to Stampede us over the cliff with fear. God is in control not these idiots.
And remember there are fake accounts in the names of real people. If you don’t think the left is capable of putting out scare pr0n in like that oh, well, they are capable of absolutely everything.
I should add Pierre Kory contracted Covid himself. That’s part of why he changed the prophylaxis to twice a week because he was at the tail end of his weekly dose when he got it.
It’s not true that he contracted covid. I remember when you posted it but that turned out to be false information.
What, it was in the weekly update4 that week. His daughter got it, too.
Hmm. A good person I know in health care debunked the story, but it sounds like they were ill-informed. If it was in the weekly update from FLCCC, then that seems like a very reliable source for that news! The good news is, that he’s fine and so is his daughter. Since it’s too late to edit my comment above, I will reply to myself to correct it. Very sorry and thanks for hopping on to share how you found out about it.
Correction to my comment about Dr. Kory contracting covid. It seems my information was wrong and Kaco had reliable info about this. Sorry to Kaco and Treepers who read my comment. I don’t want to spread fake news, that’s for sure.
They’ve since updated their protocol, changing IVM prophylaxis to twice a week and doubling the early treatment dose among adding other things.
But I’ve been scrambling to assemble things myself since which has added to my stress.
A medical professional who tweets that he is demoralized and frightened is a medical professional I think I would avoid.
He’s kind of well known and had testified at a Senate hearing about Ivermectin. He is part of Dr. Paul Marik’s Frontline Covid19 Critical Care Alliance. I have been following Dr. Marik’s protocol through the Eastern Virginia School of Medicine since early last year. Then this alliance was formed. The website is flccc.net.
Here is more about this team by this article earlier this year. Long but well writen.
https://www.mountainhomemag.com/2021/05/01/356270/the-drug-that-cracked-covid
My impression is that Dr. Kory is carrying an enormous level of responsibility, stress, and compassion. He is really on the front lines. In an ideal world, an doctor wouldn’t send a tweet so loaded with that kind of emotionality. But he’s human and given all he has done for the world (some think he should be nominated for the Nobel prize), I think he deserves the space to speak as he did. Not ideal, but one small deviation from months and months and months of truly amazing work, and in the context of such a hostile environment no less.
Dr. Kory seems to be the real deal. I didn’t see this statement, so have no opinion on its legitimacy. However, since Dr. Cory has been fighting this for almost 2 years, I imagine he IS getting REALLY TIRED of dealing with it all!
Every health care worker in my area is feeling despondent and exhausted.
Kaco, let me ask you again. What test currently in use can accurately and conclusively diagnose a COVID case? Can you explain that to me? The fear you people are under, this unholy spell, is pure madness.
“In summary, we see nearly all PCR tests going above and beyond the 33 value and well beyond Professor Bustin’s 35. The arbitrary Ct values make the PCR test results absolutely MEANINGLESS beyond the fact that it does not actually detect any “virus” but only small fragments of RNA never proven to belong to one. Randomly choosing a Ct cutoff can be the difference between whether one is positive according to PCR or not. With how easy it is to manipulate the outcome of a positive/negative result as well as the fact that there is no evidence backing up the arbitrary Ct values chosen to determine one positive or not, there is absolutely no way the results of these tests should ever be trusted”
https://viroliegy.com/2021/09/28/pcr-ct-values-arbitrary-meaningless/
Michael, I will post this again to you, maybe you will watch it. It explains all your questions.
https://odysee.com/@FrontlineCovid19CriticalCareAlliance:c/flccc-weekly-update-28-july-2021-covid:6
I think many of these posters may be “fear porn plants” ? Planted on sites like these perhaps to sway opinions ? I’m with you , none of this adds up on the ground as far as anything Ive ever witnessed .
I posted what is going on where I live and then expanded on it by answering posts back to me. I’ve been here since summer of ’16 but don’t recognize your username. And Michael seems pretty new, too, and keeps posting the same website and never answers a reply back to his posts.
A friend of mine went through a drive-thru covid testing. He dipped the swab in a bottled water and handed it back. Four days later he was notified he tested having covid.
Four days wait!
So drinking water may cause Covid. Given enough cycles, one can have any result.???
I follow FLCCC very closely and it’s my impression that he never said that. What he did say was that treating the Delta variant was more challenging. As a result, they adjusted their treatment protocol by, among other things, doubling the dose of IVM and adding monoclonal antibodies.
You can go on his twitter and retrieve it, Sarah. A lot of responses to it was that they appreciated his honesty. What I said was that was the start of the alarm, with that tweet. His weekly update after it was more reassuring that they are handling it, but that, of course, is with their own hospitals.
https://odysee.com/@FrontlineCovid19CriticalCareAlliance:c/flccc-weekly-update%E2%80%948-11-21%E2%80%94dr.:1
And about the 12 minute mark is where he reported he got Covid. So, I don’t appreciate you calling it false info.
I corrected my comment and regret how forthright I was in my words and tone. I’m sorry. There’s an enormous amount of information flying around out there and it’s not always easy to tease out what’s accurate and what’s not. A contact of mine in health care told me that story about Dr. Kory was debunked and I believed them. I corrected my post and that’s the best I can do. I’m correcting it here again. I am human and make mistakes.
Thanks, Sarah, no grudges here and I appreciate your posts to me. Maybe you can get back to your contact about it!
OK. And I already did reach out to my contact after our exchanges last night.
All I have heard about Ivermectin from those who had Covid and used it. Is within a day or two they started feeling better.
That is indeed the clear majority, in fact, I would say everyone else takes it and feels better with no ill effects.
I read something on Dr. Kory’s FLCCC site which indicated that some of their protocols had changed due to Delta. There are rules for “Chronic Prevention,” “Post Covid-19 Exposure Prevention,” “Immune Fortifying/Supportive Therapy,” and “Early Treatment Protocol – First and Second Line Agents.”
It is very important that you refer to the FLCCC website fairly often. They change the protocols when they see the necessity. I need to check today, but the last one that I have was September 1,and it was different than the initial protocols due to Delta.
Yep. I agree, Kaco.
My biggest source of “fear” around this whole mess is knowing that none of my Doctors have my back.
They cannot be bothered to read even the simplest articles about early treatments.
2 out of 3 didn’t even care what my Vit. D levels were. I’ll give the 3rd one that at least.
Pray that the Med. people who are quitting will start a parallel HC System, cuz right now that seems to be the only way out.
Thanks for understanding, sunnydaze, and saying it so succinctly. It is very distressing I have no faith in the healthcare system.
I had posted earlier when my husband saw his PCP today, he told my husband there has been no deaths from the vaccine. Talk about misinformation! At least he secured monoclonal antibodies script from him should he need it, which was his purpose outside of checking labs.
Yes, it is a huge let-down when you find out your Doctor is just as gullible, naive and politically driven as the rest of the slaughterhouse sheep.
I heard today someone was able to get ivermectin at a uh hospital recently,for a very ill family member but they had to demand it. Guess what, the person had a turn for the better very quickly after getting it. They had also been given monoclonal antibodies but it didn’t work for them.
That’s good news, but also bad news about the monoclonal antibodies! I wish you could tell me which doctor somehow. So glad they are doing better.
It’s okay to be concerned. My best friend has diabetes and caught it and I was very worried for her. When my husband was working at the hospital they were putting him in the COVID unit with no protection, and we had a brand-new baby. I was worried for my baby, then, too. It’s alright to be cautious.
I hope your friend recovered well!
And congratulations on your baby! I think I remember you talking about going to be having a baby soon.
She and her family did indeed recover. Unfortunately she was one of the first in line to take the jab, back before we knew about all the terrible side effects, so that’s a new worry…
Thank you. =) We like him rather a lot.
How do you KNOW if anyone caught it when we KNOW the tests cannot diagnose anything?
“In summary, we see nearly all PCR tests going above and beyond the 33 value and well beyond Professor Bustin’s 35. The arbitrary Ct values make the PCR test results absolutely MEANINGLESS beyond the fact that it does not actually detect any “virus” but only small fragments of RNA never proven to belong to one. Randomly choosing a Ct cutoff can be the difference between whether one is positive according to PCR or not. With how easy it is to manipulate the outcome of a positive/negative result as well as the fact that there is no evidence backing up the arbitrary Ct values chosen to determine one positive or not, there is absolutely no way the results of these tests should ever be trusted”
https://viroliegy.com/2021/09/28/pcr-ct-values-arbitrary-meaningless/
Because there is some kind of virus going around with slightly different symptoms from flu, and one of those symptoms is loss of taste and smell. My friend and her family experienced that loss of taste and smell, and didn’t get it back for several months after otherwise recovering.
Fear lowers your immune system.
Dr. Vladimer Zelenko has treated over 6000 covid patients successfully. He’s trained 100’s of doctors in the Zelenko Protocol.
It works. He’s been nominated for a Nobel Price in Medicine.
Here is his website. You see that it has a Prophylactic protocol. What to take BEFORE you are sick.
There is also a Protocol that helped his 6000 patients recover.
It is based on your risk category.
There is also the monoclonal antibodies that you can get in the first week of being sick – this is what Pres. Trump used.
(I think it was Dr. Zelenko that helped treat Pres. Trump.)
People have figured this out. Dr Zelenko has a store on his website.
Dr. Zelenko’s Website
Half way down the home page is his Protective prophylactic protocol
Also…
Treatments if you develop Covid symptoms. (you have to choose between low or high risk)
I see he even offers consultations,
Thank you! I have looked at it from time to time. The FLCCC has added a lot of medicines I cannot take or question, like the anti-androgens among other things that aren’t available like the Nitazoxanide, nobody’s going to prescribe this stuff.
I might consider a consult with Dr. Zelenko, at least to answer some questions, I’ll try to figure out the budget for that!
https://www.pushhealth.com/for-patient
You can get Ivermectin, HCQ and Z-Pack here same day or next
I got a prescription sent to my pharmacy in about 10 min or so after filling out the online form. $45 for Ivermectin.
You can choose your pharmacy to have the prescription sent to. If for some reason they can’t fill it, call around and have this pharmacy to transfer your prescription to another pharmacy. I used Walgreens and no problem.
If you get Fauci’s virus call your Dr and ask for Regeneron/ Monoclonal antibody. It’s either infusion or 4 shots.
Somebody told me you have to ask for it.
@LauraLoomer
·Sep 20th
I took the Regeneron shots.
It’s 4 Regeneron shots at the same time.
You can also get the infusion which is one infusion once, but the Regeneron shots are free in Florida at the state run Regeneron sites.
It’s one dose. Administered once. Either 1 infusion, or 2 shots in your arms and 2 in your stomach.
@LauraLoomer
·Sep 20th
I took Regeneron.
I also finished my 5 day course of Azithromyacin today, but I’m also taking Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquin.
And then I’m taking a supplement called OrthoMune that you can get over the counter that has Vitamin C, D3, Zinc, NAC, and Quercetin baked into one pill. A bottle of 120 pills is $40 at the pharmacy. Cheaper than buying all of the vitamins separately.
I’ve got NAC as well as Bromelain, which have had good studies that’s worth a try. Didn’t stop my son from developing a breakthrough bronchitis, though. His doctor said today he thinks it’s RSV and I said I had asked the Urgent Care docs about that, too, as I heard that was also going around here.
She sounds like she has a bad case of it, wonder what happened. She needs all three meds, IVM, HCQ, and Regeneron?
I did see someone post on patriots.win that they finally got relief with monoclonal antibodies because the IVM and HCQ they took wasn’t touching it.
She just wanted to get this over with quickly. She took everything she wanted and bounced back fast.
Oh, so the Joe Rogan treatment! He threw the kitchen sink at his also.
What state was your Walgreen’s store located? I also used pushhealth.com, got a scrip, but could not get it filled anywhere in Texas. I’m still waiting for my scrip to be filled by the preferred pharmacy in Staten Island, NY.
TX, North Texas area. No issues at all.
Ohio. The guy told my husband he basically was a conscientious objector and he “has a right.” He said some Walgreens are filling it but not him. I have no idea what Walgreens are doing it.
A. CO usually has religious beliefs that he can’t take human life. So by not filling it, he is potentially contributing to the death of a human.
Figure out which county is the most conservative near you and call the pharmacies there.
Thank you, we had a script but no pharmacy here, including Walgreens, as well as Columbus area would fill it! I wanted to use the Good Rx, too.
We have a script, but no pharmacy and was not going to pay the prices of this one they sent it to. It was transferred to this other pharmacy but we are still paying through the nose. Wish my husband would have done his at the same time I did mine which was back in june.
I am so sorry you have to deal with that. Try calling around, I would search the most conservative County near you and try their Pharmacies.
Super conservative County, try there.
Yeah, maybe Holmes! Amish country, good idea. Maybe we can get the rest of the prescription transferred there.
Can you explain the fact that in every single animal study, they could NOT infect the animals with this purported novel new killer virus? would you care to read the facts about this purported novel killer virus?
https://viroliegy.com/2021/09/25/where-is-the-sars-cov-2-animal-model/
You can do much for yourself to prevent Covid and a lot of other stuff by boosting your immune system. First, take Vit.D3 daily:5000IUs/day. No, that’s not a terribly high dose. Take magnesium and Vit.K2 with it. They work together, and the K2 will make sure the calcium created by the D3 goes into your bones and doesn’t stay in your bloodstream. Also take zinc and quercitin. They also work together. The query iron helps your body utilize the zinc. This WILL keep you well but it would help a lot to get rid of your stress (try St.John’s wort to calm you down). Last but not least, start trusting God. Every day. In all circumstances. Pray that he’ll remove your fear.
Thank you for your words, I did learn to take the K2 MK-7 with the D3, but I’m afraid my system can’t handle more than the 2000 units of D3! I thought about trying twice a day. I do try to get out in the sun some, too.
I have stocked up on a lot of things for this and it did take a lot of research as well as finding good brands.
I am thinking seriously about adding magnesium glycinate, I hear that form is good for the nerves and doesn’t cause the laxative effects.
Only people who experienced death do not have fear for death. Does that explain death? Yes it does. It is going to happen and do not fear death.
Did you ever consider death is the blessing sin the curse? God had to remedy sin. Imagine living forever in sin. Think about that and death loses it’s scary face.
It’s fear that is the sin and people want you to fear, everything.
If you wish to understand fear a bit let me give some light.
We are constantly surrounded by spirits. You never deliberately seek interaction with spirits except the Holy Spirit and every word is tested by Gods written word. To seek out any other spirit will be destruction to yourself. It is forbidden in the manual.
When you live with fear it is Actually spirits that are close by directing that fear. As you embrace fear more spirits attach to you who love fear.
You must immediately reject any fear. It’s possible, but you must replace it, Faith is the way.
The same with spirits of faith, they come to us as we entertain faith. As we grow in faith more spirits of faith promote that faith in our
lives. Adam walked with God in the cool of the day! No fear.
If you read the manual it does describe in stories these interactions but, most people have no desire to understand these things.
I myself want to know why
and how we gain in faith. Fear is the opposite side and if allowed, will control every aspect of your life, just as faith does and did with Jesus. The difference is faith is rest and is comfort, fear is torment and intrusive.
Remember when Jesus said “get thee behind me Satan” and also “Satan has no place in him”? he had no fear only faith, and could not sin. Temptation is not sin.
If you just use common sense you see in this world that people of like minds gravitate to each other. When we leave these dirtbags behind there will be no hindrance as a spirit.
It’s also why it is so vitality important to focus on the love of God in all things and seek him in all your ways, while you can.
One day you will be either repelled or drawn to him in
spirit, and nothing will stand in your way.
Thank you for these kind and Biblical words. I come from a family of great faith. I also have been trained in the medical field and know what a mess we’re in. But I must also let the worry slip away.
Philippians 4:6-7.
Also Psalm 91. That one really comforted my grandmother when she was in fear. Her house had been broken into and her neighborhood was turning bad. She came to the table and opened the Bible and it fell to Psalm 91. When she came to the passage about the angels covering with their pinions, she actually felt the angels wings around her shoulders and heard them rustle. I will never forget her telling me about it.
As far as I’m concerned, a p-Harmcist that doesn’t fill someone’s IVM scrip is guilty of attempted homicide, and will vote accordingly as a juror. (all kinds of secondary implications)
Any lawsuits or altercations will be less favorable to the Harmacist, like aggrieved family members.
I know, it’s a travesty. I don’t know how they can ignore the testimonies and the studies.
They have to ignore to drive the plan through. We don’t know yet fully what the plan is, but there definitely is a plan.
It’s obvious they want you not to be healthy. The regimes all over the world want you vaxxed at ALL costs. It’s not about health or they would let you get what cures you.
It is scary.
But don’t back down.
Hold the line.
We’ll get through this.
There are more of us than there are of them.
The vaxxed people are just scared and are doing this by not thinking and not researching.
Keep your body intact.
We might be the saviors.
Thanks, Kristin, I don’t want the vaccine at all and I know Covid can be tricky but I think there’s a better chance of overcoming that than a lifetime from the high risk of injury from the vaccine or even death.
It’s hard to believe they are trying to force this faulty vaccine at all.
Thanks for the encouragement!
Great name, by the way and you spell it just the same! 😉
My father liked Kiersten and my mother liked Christina, it was a compromise. She got the spelling from Ricky Nelson’s wife.
Kaco, you are not alone. Like I said before my bookclub only wanted vaxxed to attend….not seeing that notice any longer but i quit, not participating in events that divide us.
While pregnant my mother was reading the trilogy “Kristin Lavrans’ daughter” ….
Be well Kaco. You are doing the right thing.
I got Ivermectin when I first got Covid (36MG a day). In 4 days went from 104 to 97.5 temp. COVID other effects gone. Plus it took away my inflammation . I haven’t felt this good in decades. I now only take a third of the dose twice a week for inflammation.
Wow, glad you are doing well. That’s what I hear, that the IVM really clears everything up. It’s a wonder drug. Anti-cancer, too.
I really appreciate everyone’s words of support, comfort, and advice tonight! It really has helped in an almost impossible situation. Almost being the key word. We will have to conquer this issue as well as the fear.
Wait, now ivermectin is ineffective?? Would you be able to provide Dr. Kory’s tweet??
Here is how one family brilliantly did a work-around the hospital’s dangerous covid protocols and saved their mother’s life by stealth-treating her. https://sarahwestall(dot)com/familys-stealth-mission-to-save-mom-in-the-covid-death-ward/
My resistance continues.
“I don’t know if my husband would be able to stand up to Cleveland Clinic or University Hospital to get a proper protocol.”
But you may be certain that Mike DeWine will do nothing to ease your distress.
The Dayton trip sounds like your best option if Dr. Wagshul will accept you as a patient. I wish you the best possible outcome.
Stop being so fearful. Have you not seen the graphics posted by Sundance of the survival rate? It’s >98% unless you have really serious co morbidity.
Take your Vit.D, C, Zinc and quercetin daily and you’ll be fine. (Just remember to rotate the quercetin 30 days on/30 days off to prevent kidney damage).
…and DON’T go to a hospital!
Reporting from the land of Inslee:
https://mynorthwest.com/3169682/wa-medical-commission-discipline-misinformation-vaccine-exemptions/
A journalist and I had a private conversation in May. She had interviewed a child psychiatrist who was disturbed by the depression and generalized anxiety he was observing in young patients even after they were allowed back into the schools
I pointed out to her that the kids were trapped and heard the doomsday reporting on the news. I told her that what they heard was “We’re all going to die!” every time the news came on. There reporters were busy hyperventilating about COVID but did not balance out their reporting with actual death rates/100k or x/cases. The kids were not exposed to the information that COVID does not kill healthy kids.
She has done COVID reports since then but has kept the tone much more positive. She has children too and would not wish to cause unnecessary distress in the course of doing her work.
“Use of fear to control behaviour in Covid crisis was ‘totalitarian’, admit scientists
Members of Scientific Pandemic Influenza Group on Behaviour express regret about ‘unethical’ methods”
https://web.archive.org/web/20210706124612/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/05/14/scientists-admit-totalitarian-use-fear-control-behaviour-covid/
Until recently, I used to frequent a non-political board for a diversion. Most of them are coastal lefties. Not until this spring did they emerge from their bunkers to try to eat at a restaurant outside on a patio. While we had been dining indoors since June of last year. I almost commented, “I forgot you were all living in the Eastern block!” But these people were deathly afraid. One guy moved from Seattle to his house by a lake to escape all germs and hunkered down with his wife there. I think he’s moved there permanently due to the increase in crime in Seattle, while probably still voting for leftists.
Early this summer, I was walking on a sidewalk in the middle of the day. in an uber-leftie city. A woman in a mask and I were approaching each other. She looked rather uncomfortable. Finally, she crossed a little grass strip and stepped down onto the street while apologizing, “You just really can’t be sure what one is supposed to do these days.”
Bless her heart. She seemed so miserable at that moment.
Yeah, and catching Covid outdoors is practically impossible.
Yes! My 13 year old perfectly healthy grandson who lives in a Lib town thinks he would die or be hospitalized if he got c-19. We are terrorizing our kids!
We aren’t, my friend. They are.
So true Beverly.
My 15 and 16 year old grandsons are doing really well, they have researched covid and the vaccine and have decided not to take it.
There is a tweet some one shared with us above with a medical doctor tweeting that he was demoralized and frightened, this man needs to be relieved of his position.
Does any one here remember how over a year and a half ago we were told that we needed to go into lock down for two weeks to flatten the curve?
Any one here remember the panic in the news and the exhausted nurses napping on the floor or in a bath tub because they had worked themselves to unconsciousness and JUST COULD NOT GO ON.
The fear, the panic, the photos of patients hooked up to machines and looking just awful.
The stories (lies) of bodies piled up outside NYC mortuaries or New Orleans mortuaries.
Tweets from doctors and nurses about how exhausted and frightened and how they had never seen anything like this before and did not know what they were going to do because this was overwhelming their hospital and ….and……and…..and…
They pushed the Panic Porn Button HARD (mostly lies) and we fell for it not knowing any better.
I sense that now, for some reason they feel the need to push this same button once again and to see if they can get us all to freak out and do what they say yet once again.
The leaders are really going FULL NAZI down in Australia and I think this is something they want for the whole wide world.
But they MUST keep us terrified and panicked to get it done.
So we have a choice.
To calm down and find out the truth, or to throw in with the ones who are running the show in Melbourne and Sydney.
They want us terrified and afraid and hunkered down, weak.
I choose strong.
They are fine so far, attending school in person playing on the sports teams as allowed and trying to enjoy what little social life is left out there.
They are not terrified but try to practice good health habits of eating well and getting out doors to get some nice exercise.
They do not have the fear and anxiety that many write about, do not know why.
Their 12 year old sister is fine also, she is really happy to be getting back to school in person full time and loves the school clubs etc.
Maybe it the area or something, my son and daughter in law do not have cable or satellite TV, only streaming .
They do not have news blaring from the TV 24/7 they rarely even turn it on, even the kids think it is boring.
Maybe some kids are being exposed to endless news stories most which are not even close to being true.
When my husband and myself are around them we try to be truthful and find the facts. Covid can be dangerous if you are elderly with comorbidity factors.
We try to talk to and to answer their questions the best we can, if we can not answer them then we try to help them find the answer.
10 steps to Genocide.
We are well on our way.
10 steps with visual aids.
What 2 reasons did that woman in the first video give?
In the last 3 minutes she lists the enemies of freedom.
They are trying to make women eligible for the draft. They are trying to genocide the people of the USA… the people who would otherwise remember freedom and liberty.
They plan a world war as they destroy NATO and all US allies are turned away from the US.
We stand a better chance of seeing Pelosi tell the truth than the COVID virus taking you out. Those are some good odds.
Think about it. If they can not tell, that you have COVID, while you are alive. Then it seems less probable they can tell, if you died from it. BUT, they never get any arguments from the victims.
Good, sensible video with lovely brogue from person interviewed.
As to table at end of post, even at age 85+ the death rate from Covid is
2.83%.
I’ll take my chances. Seem like good odds to me compared to having a big, brass ring drilled through my nasal septum & being dragged by a rope through the ring by some fanatic waving a syringe of the vax & boosters ad infinitum.
Agreed the changes are very good. And we’re all going to die one day. And we’ll all die from something. I say it’s high time they added covid to the list of things that can kill someone, especially an elderly person and call it a day. I don’t say this glibly. I think every person needs to do whatever they feel is best for them and their family when it comes to their health. But we have got to stop acting like covid is going away. It’s not. And as far as I can tell, a year from now, it will hopefully be nothing more threatening than the common cold.
chances, not changes.
If you wish to dwell on death, here are CDC numbers from before the Fauci flu got all the print,,,,,
FastStats – Deaths and Mortality (cdc.gov)
Yes. If I happen to catch it, Ill stay home and ride it out. If I happen to die, so be it. No one lives forever, and only the Lord knows when your time will come. By faith I am prepared.
In the meantime Ill do what Ive been doing since before covid was ever on the horizon: practice good hygiene, cover my cough, and be aware and distance myself from others who appear to be ill. Pray for our country.
I agree with your well said post and I carry a small bottle of nasal spray with a 1/2 t spoon betadine 10% solution. Keeps bugs out of respiratory system. Gargle it too. Couple more otc supplements and then trust Jesus.
Everytime I see all these mask zombies staggering around, I think there’s a whole lotta people out there who must think they are going to live forever….as for me, I’d rather die than surrender the unparalleled quality of life our American forefathers provided for us…this pandemic has been a Rorschach test on who wants to live their life to the fullest versus who wants to cower in their house in fear
Perfectly encapsulated brutalus1..
We do not wear masks. Get lots of very nice checkers at the stores. They are pleasant and probably wishing they didn’t have to wear one.
I always ask checkers about them wearing a mask. I have yet to talk to one who wishes they did not have to wear one.
I just tell the masked girls they have a nice smile. They always laugh.
Many have been terrorized into thinking that if they get the fauci flu they will be in the .3% that die.
Yes…I also think a lot of people are enjoying embracing their Inner Sloth
Reminiscent of a few lines of scripture , John 12:25. We used to consider vampires the damned , hell now everybody wants to live forever ANY cost if you know what I mean . Good comment .
My job is gonna enforce as of dec 8th. I’m willing to do anything to not get it, but I hold all the insurance (health etc.) for my family. I have no idea where to go to get outta this. Soooo DAMN MAD!! AMerica deserves everything shes gonns get, I guess, the way everyone just rolled over and complied. The spirirt of America is gone. Everyone is just fat and complacent staring at their f@cking phones.
Look at something like Medishare.
I don’t know anything about your situation, but I’ve been paying for medical insurance for decades. My family never meets deductible.
I have high deductible insurance currently, and it’s cheaper to negotiate a cash price with a doc than it is to deal with co-pays and follow up bills when insurance doesn’t cover.
I’d have already switched, but I have employees on my group plan not eligible for Medishare due to smoking.
Christian Healthcare Ministries is also a great option.
yes. Used these folks for coverage when I got laid off until I reached 65
Are you on CHM? I looked into several a few years back. That was one of them.
Curious about your experience with it.
I have had CHM for years. They are very good and always paid any claims I had. Wonderful people and this is a great option for people.
Why wait, go get your shot,you have already made up your mind. I repeat don’t walk, run go get your shot.
The whole situation may change by Dec. 8.
I’d hang on. And look for alternative employment in the meantime, JIC.
^^^^THIS!
Stop. IF there is no other option. Sometimes better things come along.
Try looking into these legal avenues.
https://lcaction.org/vaccine
https://vivabarneslaw.locals.com/upost/889925/vaccine-mandate-protest-letter
Also,
https://righttorefuse.org/advocacy-materials/
https://www.deconstructingconventional.com/post/how-to-overcome-the-pressure-to-get-a-covid-vaccine
“My job is gonna enforce as of Dec 8th”
If it just insurance coverage you need, quit and find a Direct Primary Care doctor – very affordable.
We could have ended this by refusing their masks, We can end it now by refusing to take their poison.
What next will those who survive us, say they could have done to stop global fascism
Your family would rather have you stay alive and healthy. Why risk this for a shot?
Don’t take the jab. Period. Those who say they have no options are WRONG. The tyrants want you to believe it but don’t surrender to their intimidation. The jab will not save you because it does not stop the virus. It will not save your family because it is a dangerous poison and your family will likely not have you around if you take the jab. NO JOB IS WORTH BECOMING A SLAVE TO TYRANTS.
Insurance is not life itself. Don’t lose your soul clinging to a deadly serpent who lies to control you.
My husband’s company sent email not to worry bc the lawsuits would push it out. I told my daughter to hang tight and she found she was not alone.
No. We are not rolling over! My daughter who is very introverted is standing up and taking classes from prof who told her on first day of class she should die for no jab. He tortures her every class. He made another girl cry in class. Kids flee his class during tests bc of the stress. She and abt 50%of her college unjabs are ganging together. Forbidden to go on class trips, they go on their own. My husband will go contract if they change their minds abt jab. Hope for the best but plan for the worst. Best wishes.
Neil had so much more to say – if it wasn’t for the Hannitus interuputus wannabe. When will these people learn that their guests are more important than they are..
Speaking of Covid Obsession Idiots, I was in an upscale beauty salon today for a haircut. When checking out, I saw a showcase of acrylic rings for sale. Half of the rings had a script with the word “vaccinated”, the other half for sale were “plain”. It made me so sick that I seriously have decided that after 9 years of giving this owner my business, I will not affirm this level of stupidity. She also sells masks which she buys from China stating that “we are a global economy” never mind the middle class from which this twit came is being sold down the river of destruction. I am convinced more and more each day that the average American is totally illiterate and stupid.
This is the latest fear porn being pushed by the corrupt leftist msm, the local NBC affiliate in Houston had a lengthy segment on how mild the flu season was last year and how bad it will be this year! The cherry on top is that it’s very possible to get both the flu and Covid-19 at the same time! That’s why everyone needs to be vaccinated and get a flu shot. That it’s safe to get the Covid-19 vaccine and the flu shot at the same time! The seriousness of the reporters had me rolling my eyes! Good grief the entire report just oozed fear! If Covid doesn’t kill you the flu will unless of course you are vaccinated and get a flu shot! We have to get rid of the current fear porn media!
The Academy of Ideas has produced a brilliant video illustrating how mass psychosis has been created in the past, and now in the present, by using fear as a tool of oppression. COVID is the latest iteration. The video is called “A Killing of The Mind”. I think you will enjoy it, and better yet, hope you will share it with others.
I watched this a few weeks ago. Excellent video and answered a lot of questions I had on WHY are folks not seeing this.
I’m glad this video s still around.
I hope some one posts it on Rumble. Wish I knew how.
It’s the most enlightening thing I have seen in years.
We should talk about the CDC reviving “gun violence research”.
How about “quelling” access to guns? The left are masters at language manipulation and serving up crap they peddle like a 5-course meal in a 5-star restaurant.
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2021/09/28/obama-urges-national-gun-reform-senate-needs-to-quell-easy-access-to-guns/
Yeah they need to be slapped back in line – HARD – on this, NOW!
Guess they don’t have enough “WORK” to do or perhaps they’re getting bored with ALL COVID, ALL THE TIME?
What does gun violence have to do with DISEASE control?
Nothing. It was all a plan to steamroll us.
Overwhelming the brain with multiple assaults. Keeping the street levels up.
The health establishment has been chosen as the primary vehicle to usher in tyranny – emergency powers and all that entails.
The CDC is not a branch of the fedgov. It is not a fedgov agency. The CDC as a private organization sucking up tax dollars has not right to pontificate on American rights.
Sidney Powell posted to telegram an interesting video about how long our elections have been stolen. I’m sure we all remember the “hanging chads” – interesting thing is, I worked with some of the people mentioned in this video and I remember bits and pieces of some of the incidents, and yet at the time I had no clue what they were really involved in!
https://rumble.com/vn49ai-murder-spies-and-voting-lies-the-clint-curtis-story.html
When someone tells big LIES, pretty soon you don’t believe them. Nothing they say is nothing but a lie. This is what the local news sites are doing. Lies about the virus. Lies about who is in the hospital on their deathbed. Lies about how many people have taken the shots and boosters. I don’t know about any of you on this site, but I DON’T BELIEVE ON WORD THEY PRINT. THAT GOES ESPECIALLY FOR THE OREGON GOVERNOR.
When the panic button is first pressed and the story is that a bat came into contact with a pot of soup in a market in some far flung corner of the world and then somebody ate that pot of soup and then worldwide panic ensues whilst the world population plays simon sez with world leaders and then 2 years on somebody is able to articulate that it was a con, well, yeah, i’m at a loss for words on what this says of humanity.
Proximal Origin, was published on Feb. 16, 2020, and would be used by Fauci, other scientists, and the media to promote the natural origins narrative, while simultaneously condemning any lab leak theories as conspiracy theories.
edited to cite source:
https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Real-Anthony-Fauci/Robert-F-Kennedy/Children-s-Health-Defense/9781510766808
Can you imagine if they had been honest about what they knew about all of this at the time?
Everything would have been different.
Fauci deserves to be executed for what he has done to this country and the world.
It wasn’t just a lab leak – it was a lab leak from a lab doing dangerous research that they funded and were very familiar with.
What they did was a completely criminal cover-up.
I hope his trial is televised .
WOW.
check out this 60 Minutes report from the 1970s about the swine flu vaccine. Really amazing. Nothing has changed
Tell your kids that this is what real journalism used to look like. Show it to them. I can’t stand Mike Wallace but he did a good job on this report. Check out the CDC guy in the 1970s. They’ve been corrupt slimy bastards for a long time.
And those of us old enough remember the CDC being corrupt slimy bastards in the 70’s.
In the Army during 74-77. We were forced to take newly developed swine flu vaccines
Remember it like yesterday as our battalion literally marched to multiple vaccination stations for the forced jab.
Someone posted this video a couple of weeks ago. Glad to see someone posting it again. It is timely, to say the least.
My husband tells me his parents got this shot! Before they pulled it. Thank goodness they survived but talk about blind faith.
It was the last flu shot my folks got. They both actually got the swine flu from it.
Makes me think of how they bullied and stampeded people to get on the cattle cars.
They terrorized them.
Government corporate terrorists.
Wow Sundance u posted a boatload of information tonight! I may be up all night reading & maybe posting on the different posts
I’m gonna cheer for Claire Wolfe one more time and then I’ll hush up, but this point she makes in
https://www.clairewolfe.com/blog/2021/09/20/our-job-part-i-groundwork/
is absolutely on point and straight to the heart = I. have taken it to mine to live in Truth.
“5. The most potent vision is rooted in what Solzhenitsyn, Havel, and contemporary author Rod Dreher might call a determination to “live in truth.” Totalitarianism is based on the lie that a small, powerful group can control a large, complex society filled with endlessly varied individuals. The most common way to attempt to cope with totalitarianism is to obey, and even loudly proclaim whatever ideology the bosses promote at any given moment — in other words, to submerge your real self into the tyrannical order, to “live within the lie.” Once you determine to step out of the lie (whether your reasons are religious, philosophical, pragmatic, rebellious, desperate, or merely fed up), you enter a new realm. A realm of freedom and perils, but a realm in which you finally, blessedly, get to be true to yourself. Then … culture flows downstream from character.”
We have lost life long friends over this.
When you have no faith in God, you live your life in fear.
I need a new tribe.
We really do need to band together. More are moving to red states, we’ll find eachother.
I learned a very long time ago that I have no friends. That’s partially on me too. I’m not a very good friend to anyone.
I’ve tried very hard, but I cannot be friends with idiots. I can only tolerate people who are filled with Light and Truth. Finding a tribe like that is a lifelong endeavor.
The only fear I have is fear of the Lord.
My friends that have not been vaxxed think the same way I do. My friends that have been vaxxed respect my choice not to be vaxxed, as I respect their choice to have taken it.
On the other hand, I have family members that are really pushy about the vax, and it has strained our relationship to the point where I dont like to be around them as much, my mom in particular.
You only have one Mom. I lost mine before the Covid crap, lockdown etc. started, by about a year. Miss her every day.
Also remember being on a first name basis with the ER Staff. There were highs and lows, realized early on, that there had to be an advocate for the patient for everything, mistakes can be made. Intentionally or unintentionally mistakes will be made.
Doctors really hate to be questioned, especially when you refuse to take their medical babble. Telling them to explain so that you can understand to make an informed decision.
We are … “Beyond Thunderdome”.
heading to Barter Town in the a m to pick up some ivermectin.
https://images.app.goo.gl/bFA5N45J6LnRjqQH9
they mostly come out at night …….. mostly
Heh. Showed kidlet that last Sunday evening after suffering through Revenge of the Sith because he wanted to. He hid behind his hand half the time. LOL!
? French Tennis Star Says He Regrets Getting COVID Vaccine, Now Has ‘Series of Problems’
https://resistthemainstream.org/french-tennis-star-says-he-regrets-getting-covid-vaccine-now-has-series-of-problems/?utm_source=gab
Fauci trying to block Kennedy book.
https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Real-Anthony-Fauci/Robert-F-Kennedy/Children-s-Health-Defense/9781510766808
Consider buying it and then writing a review and posting it at Amazon. We have enormous economic power and power in numbers. Help make this book soar to No 1.
Was reading some of the advance reviews written by well known people. Here’s what Robert Malone wrote:
“I thought I understood what was going on from an insider POV. But this is mind-blowing. Anthony Fauci is playing precisely the strategy that he developed and tested during the HIV days. Bobby is on fire in this manuscript. The depth of information and facts, all carefully cited, is mind-blowing. It is a must read. I think it will really help clarify what has been going down here.”
—Robert W. Malone, MD, virologist, immunologist, molecular biologist
love your pies by the way, sorry old man humor. i will look up the book on Amazon tx
Heh heh. I love those Sarah Lee pies, too. Almost as good as Mom’s.
Just pre-ordered this book. Thanks!
Wow I will look at his book. RFK jr speaking the truth
Just pre-ordered it. ?
https://patriots.win/p/13zNAyVHk1/first-joe-rogan-now-ben-garrison/c/
Meanwhile, “”Democrats Vote AGAINST COVID Tests for Illegal Immigrants Entering U.S.”
Link: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/09/democrats-vote-covid-tests-illegal-immigrants-entering-u-s/
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/australias-corporations-rebel-against-governments-draconian-covid-lockdowns
Fear porn divides, and the MSM is the king in that respect. Bidets stalinesque delivery of his 6 planks of mandates a couple of weeks ago was over the top. A friend of mine commented that had the govt, bidet, and their trusted MSM, not pushed the vax like they did, more people might have gotten the jab. This is intentional, and is meant to illicit a response. The more violent, the better for team bidet, and their narrative driven MSM. These people are pure evil.
funny video ivermectin remix. YT pulled 130,000 videos today somehow they missed this one, thanks for posting G man
Exclusive Eyewitness Account: I Saw Over 1000 Bodies in Zhongnan Hospital of Wuhan University
Inconvenient Truths by Jennifer Zeng
Jennifer’s exclusive interview with a medical professional who has worked at Zhongnan Hospital of Wuhan University during the peak of COVID19 pandemic, from Jan. to Mar 2020. In order to protect the eyewitness, his voice has been distorted.
Timecode of main sessions:
0:00 Inside Zhongnan Hospital of Wuhan University
8:04 The Actual vs. The Reported Numbers
9:43 Why Did So Many Die?
11:18 Death Toll in Wuhan
12:39 “I Wasn’t Scared, But I Was Hurt”
14:17 “I Saw Military Trucks Loaded with Soldiers and Guns”
19:32 What Happened to the Bodies?
22:15 The CCP Government Refused to do Tests
25:22 “Most of Us Lived as a Zombie”
25:50 “I Never Trusted the Government. I Gave Up on Them”
27:55 When Did The Situation Peak?
30:32 An Incident That I can’t Get Over
32:28 By Default,Treat Everything the CCP Says as a Lie
35:22 Dr. Li Wenliang’s “Suspicious” Infection and Possible “Murder”
https://magainstitute.com/time-for-mass-mask-revolt-hawaii-students-suffer-abusive-mandates-and-shame-from-their-principal/
mcm-ct.com on Twitter:
“A few months ago I posted the text of this segregation bill/detention camp bill being proposed in NY state…thinking it would never pass – BUT WOULD YOU KNOW IT…its now apparently slated for a vote and expected to pass”
NEXT THING YOU KNOW …. THEY’LL TAKE MY THOUGHTS AWAY !!!!
Megadeth – Dave Mustain
Genocide has always been the goal of the left. Weather (climate) fearmongering wasn’t working. But a massive propaganda campaign that began in China & went ‘viral’ did the trick.
Workers Who Maintain Supply Chains Warn of Worldwide ‘System Collapse’The International Chamber of Shipping, a coalition of truck drivers, seafarers, and airline workers, has warned in a letter to heads of state attending the United Nations General Assembly that governments need to restore freedom of movement to transportation workers amid persistent COVID-19 restrictions and quarantines…
https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_breakingnews/workers-who-maintain-supply-chains-warn-of-worldwide-system-collapse_4023717.html?utm_source=newsnoe&utm_medium=email2&utm_campaign=breaking-2021-09-29-3&mktids=f525732bd8b53a3c6d830e7f73155587&est=mLtNksR9RbpTXP87YnS%2FWxLUSsfPCZeni3plb11h9kuSScHR79QWA6qUhGxAPebyWyU%3D
From mental health perspective. Anxiety triggers the basic survival/trauma responses of fight, flight, freeze or fawn.
We may see all of these in our own lives in different contexts. We are definitely seeing all of them as a country. Try not to be too hard on the people who are shut down or just dont want to hear it. It is majority subconscious.
For all of us, What is needed is an anchor in safety/certainty.
With almost all cultural institutions in a state of dynamic collapse, those without an authentic anchoring relationship with Jesus Christ have no safety and will act accordingly.
The first steps toward healing our collective broken psyche is to keep as much structure, order and ritual as possible.
This stabilizes you and yours.
Next, invite those in your sphere of influence to join you in your stability. Do this in limited numbers so your stability influences the other. Too many unanchored people together amplifies the chaos.
when they ask why you/your family doesnt seem to be affected “by all this b.s.” you can explain that its because of your vibrant relationship with the Creator of the universe and His Son.
the ritual and structure doesn’t need to be elaborate or expensive. My family goes bowling after church the first Sunday of the month. We go to church Sunday and Wednesday. We get Little Caesar’s on Fridays.
The Bible tells us how we defeat tis evil. Revelation 12:11
They triumphed over him
by the blood of the Lamb
and by the word of their testimony;
they did not love their lives so much
as to shrink from death.
[Or joblessness]
Psy Ops are a key part of a Regime Change Operation.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/oG8gfPMUZK4F/
The use of fear, panic, and anxiety are powerful and violent tools manipulated by those in power against civilizations. These tactics are used to inspire the fear response repeatedly and to get people to (re)act in some way, very similar to that of pavlovian conditioning. The more this psychological tactic is used, the more the fear response is hard-wired into humans.
What if it just elicits more Mickey Finger and defiance? I am not afraid of the ‘rona, the goons in government, or death. I am afraid of God. I’ve been jobless. So what? I’ll make it and so will my people. I can still make a primitive camp and live off the land. My main emotions these days are hatred, rage, and total and complete defiance. TPTB can peddle fear to Karen and Darren and their tripple masked little Dakotas and Madisons.
In a nutshell: this has all been done on purpose. If you haven’t watched videos on Event 201, do so. All of this…the psychology, the marketing, the introduction of a ‘pandemic’, etc, has been planned.
Apparently, as Neil Oliver says, this is now going to segue into ‘climate change’. There is a reason why the EU vaccination passport is called the GREEN PASS. Could this be more obvious to thinking people???
Resist. Just don’t comply. Smile. Be content with life. Go about your day as you always did. I do this every day and give the maskholes and Branch Covidians pitying smiles that tell them “You could be me. You really could. Just ditch the fake fear and cowardice.”
I should add that I read Papillon at a young age. I just hope I am not reduced to eating roaches.
What is sad is that he is completely correct on everything he has said but thankfully more and more people are starting to turn to citizen journalist for their information because they have woken up to the non stop lies told by the main stream media all around the World. I only have one of my original social media accounts left and that is FaceBook and on just about every one of my fact based, peer reviewed and scientifically reviewed posts they slap a big false information warning on it but thank GOD we now have Getter and Telegram where you can still post the truth without fear of censorship the only problem with these new sites is well they are new and not a lot of people have an account with them yet. the same goes for YouTube, there is Rumble and BitChute that still allow you to post videos without fear of having them removed as long as you stay within the limits of a decent societal acceptance, yet People still always go to YouTube. Then you have GOOGLE as the main search engine that a great majority of people still use and they are perhaps the biggest censors on the internet right now, they will show you the real factual truth but you have to go to page 25 or higher sometimes to find it if you you can find it at all, for example when I searched out Ivermectin I had to go to page 37 before they showed the factual information about this drug being a wonder drug and that it even won 2 Nobel Prizes in Scientific research and Medicine where as on duckduckgo it is right there on page one but even now duckduckgo is starting to censor more and more because they use AWS (Amazon Web Services) as their host server farm and I guess Google/Alphabet have started to get onto Jeff Bezos to start threatening duckduckgo with being shut down just like they did to Parler when it first came out as a free Speech Social Media Platform.
The only way the World is going to get their freedoms back is if every citizen of every Country joins together as one and when the tyrannical Police start attacking some innocent person like they just recently did to the Man in Australia who sat on a park bench removed his mask so he could eat his lunch and 7 Police officers attacked him and beat him so bad they put him in the Hospital with several broken ribs a collapsed lung, fractured eye socket and severe cut on the bridge of his nose from kneeing him very hard 5 times in the ribs and people just stood by and watched in fear without trying to help. Until the people come to the rescue of innocent citizen’s from these power mad Police the Power mad Police are going to keep pushing their power until they start actually killing people for just not wearing a mask and the people will cower in fear. The World needs to unite if there is ever going to be an end to this giant overreach of power by their governments.
I’m loving Neil. One thing that jumps out at me here, his statement about people being conditioned not to think for themselves. That is so true, and not just of the Democrats. People will do anything to avoid exercising their brain. So many people hibernate their entire life.
Thinking for yourself leads to having to take responsibility for all kinds of things. Better to not do that and go along with the herd, so many people decide. I think we have a huge percentage of the population world wide who now can’t think for themselves.
Friend of mine in New Zealand is suddenly afflicted with debilitating anxiety attacks. So bad he is on extended medical leave and will have a different pposition with his company when he returns.
When he told me about them, first thing I wanted to ask was: What vaccine did you get, and when did you get it?
I know he’s been vaccinated, like many Kiwis he’s on board with the government plan.
“The Manufacturing of Mass Psychosis, Can we ever return to normal”
This observer sees an inverse correlation between levels of fear and degree of reformed belief held. Specifically, Calvinist Presbyterians appear to be handling the global scare campaign better than most. Sincere, solid Christian beliefs insulate the faithful from the fears of this world, because said believers know this world is passing away. However, based on the behavior of pastors and parishioners, and on words spoken from pulpits, Reformed believers appear to be least affected by fear porn, and are more likely to be carrying on normal lives than either their Catholic, Jewish or secular brothers and sisters. I leave it to you to divine why this is the case.
I know I don’t speak for everyone here, but I know I’m in good company as I say this:
I WAS NEVER SCARED. NOT of this disease. Not for a single second. We have seen the swamp do things of every type and we all (mostly) suspected this is just another of the things they do — create a disaster and leverage the disaster to gain more power and control.
I’m scared for this country, however. I’m scared for this country because of what they are doing at its core and I’m scared because other people are simply not seeing it. I don’t know if we have “enough” people yet to stand up and say “no more” and expect to be heard..