Science has already reflected the evidence of this point being accurate; however, the media have been reluctant to admit it – and in most cases media and politicians are denying it.
In a rare moment of clarity, Dr. Leana Wen admits vaccinated people are now more susceptible to the Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2, and carry a higher load of the virus than the non-vaccinated population. As a result of their vulnerability to carry and spread the virus, the vaccinated population is now the risk to the unvaccinated population.
https://youtu.be/PJbI69l4Xpg
The communists running the government will twist that one into a reason to mandate poison jabs for everyone.
Yup, she’s already spinning it, in that direction.
First it was vaccinate, to end the virus, and get our lives back.
THEN it was the unvaccinated are a threat, to the vaccinated, cause they are superspreaders, so they must get vaccinated.
NOW, the vaccinated are the superspreaders, that are a threat to the unvaccinated,…so the unvaccinated must get the vaccine (making THEM a threat to the remaining unvaccinated) so,…everybody can “get their lives back”?
I THINK I have that right, at least until the next iteration
Yes, “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, and expecting different results”, but “FANATACISM is redoubling your effort, while forgetting your aim.”
“ACCEPT the Eucharist of Satan (the jab) in order to protect yourself and everyone else, ….or I will KILL you (and quite possibly everyone else.)
And, “Hindsight is the FIRST thing you see,. .when you jerk your head outa yer *ss!”,..my favorite quote of all, perhaps cause I “coined” it?
In HINDSIGHT, even if you ignore obvios motives, the Covid government responce is proof (for any who needed it) of the fallacy of Government managed health care (specifically) and the broader concept of technocrats running things, cause they know best.
In My Cold Dead Arm!
F*ck Joe Biden, and all the Bidenistas!
They always move the goalpost. Masks are a perfect example. We started with “masks are for the sick, not the healthy”, to “wear a mask to protect yourself” to “wear a mask to protect everyone else” and then “wear TWO masks”. And yet sheeple don’t hear the warning bells.
1. masks
2. Jabs
3. Microchips.
1984, Get ready
We went from “2 weeks to flatten the curve” to “2 jabs or you’re fired”.
There is only one obvious solution.
The vaxed must be sent to isolation camps to slow the spread.
I know it’s likely you’re being sarcastic but just a reminder, a number of the good folks here have gotten the jab. They are also supporting our right not to get the jab.
I want to see actual science and accurate information widely disseminated to our populace.
I want them to have a game plan for how wrong these “vaccines” have gone to mitigate further damage.
I want them to treat the un”vaccinated” appropriately with therapeutics and and treatments that work.
I want healthcare professionals to be prosecuted if they refuse to treat patients.
I want those in charge at the AMA, CDC and FDA to be prosecuted if they pressured doctors into pushing the “vaccine”.
I want vast class action lawsuits filed against every agency or drug provider that pushed these harmful vaccines to include the unvaccinated. It should go to every citizen as it has forever changed our quality of life.
I could go on but you get my drift.
Forget being reasonable here. People are acting like a mob now on both sides. We won’t know the truth for another 5 years but that doesn’t stop the mob from yelling “J’accuse”.
You can go ahead and forget being reasonable.
But I won’t.
There would be no mobs if a certain fascist demographic would abide by ‘live and let live’. So when the targeted group-the unpricked– is backed into a corner by incredibly feral mobs demanding that I protect them by taking the very thing that doesn’t protect them, the protected, you can bet I’m going to push back harder than they can push.
From a vaccinated 69 year old, I thank you for your common sense and wisdom. I’m praying every day and starting to take my zinc, Vitamin C and D and Quercetin daily to help whatever immune system I might still have. None of us want to endanger anyone! May God’s grace show us the way to combat this evil that has taken over what used to be a good country and populace. We are still here, us normal Americans who love our country and want everyone to be free to choose what is best for them.
Thank you. You said it so well.
My favorite doctor, my inlaws, and my best friend all got it when it first came out and all we had was suspicions. I’d rather not send any of them to a camp, thank you very much.
As Orwell said, everything is the opposite.
“The Eucharist of Satan”
Now that just about sums it up.
Yeah, that was her whole point.
Some of my cousins from Maryland all got the jab so they could gamble, and they all ended up with Covid-1984
won the vax lottery.
Well, the house actually always wins in the end
What is being missed here:
She is simply pulling the lever of division in the opposite direction…
First it was fear the unvaxxed.
Now it’s fear the vaxxed.
Next it will be fear the unvaxxed.
And on and on.
Divide and conquer. Divided we fall.
I would say how about we just fear the government instead…
…But I don’t want to fear them. I want to replace them as is our right and duty.
Cannot argue.
Things were going well for the controllers with vaxxed afraid of unvaxxed, but… they messed that up.
This new scare is brought on by Biden’s mandate, which had the effect of putting vaxxed and unvaxxed into agreement on something (the gov’t sucks).
TPTB cannot tolerate increasing unity in the ranks of the sheep, so, they must take corrective action by now driving the wedge again with this crap.
In other words: the very first problem one must tackle is fear.
Norway reclassified covid as a virus no more dangerous than the flu and the Norse government subsequently lifted all restrictions.
“Rare moment of clarity”…Lol. You mean gently inoculating this info into the general population to test the waters in order to sell the urgent need for boosters.
We are the Government and here to help….we’re not sure how but data is coming in and we’re making an assessment.
Leaky vaccines which do not immunize and allow the virus to evolve within hosts should never be allowed. Marek’s disease in chickens is the directly applicable case in why this is a horrible policy. What had been a mild virus in the 60’s is now 99% lethal thanks to a leaky vaccine introduced in chicken raising during the 60’s. You can easily find videos of Marek’s disease to get a detailed story.
20 billion chickens worldwide are vaccinated for Marek’s disease, which has evolved from a mild illness to one that causes cancers that kill 100% of the unvaccinated in 2 weeks. The only way out is to restructure the chicken industry into small farms, and away from large Tyson-like farms. It is possible for Marek’s disease to become something that could infect humans, which could be devastating. Vaccinated chickens spread 10,000 times more virus than infected unvaccinated ones. This is our future, folks.
ADE forced researchers to abandon their attempts to develop a vaccine for SARS and MERS. They swear up and down that ADE can not happen with the covid vaccines. So confident of this impossibility that they never informed their lab rats..I mean their animal test subj…I mean their human guinea pigs of this risk.
Disgusting.
If we don’t stop the boosters now, this will go on in perpetuity. We can’t unvax those who are, but whatever mutation that happens with those vaxxed will have to play out.
How’s come we learned this pretty easily by the experts out there and it makes sense, the pressure the vaccines will put on the virus.
Those of us who are pure blood may eventually be so threatened by the vaxxers, that we may be forced to exclude ourselves from their company, and form communities of the pure blood.
A highly intelligent, highly-educated woman…who does exactly what she is instructed to do by evil people.
Does she work for CIA or CCP?
Or perhaps there’s little difference.
Difference? I think not!
China
Is
Asshoe
She works for CNN, so probably both ??
https://realcitizenreports.com/2021/05/16/dr-leana-wen-medical-cnn-propagandist-has-a-history-with-the-ccp-eugenics-programs/
Well said.
As a hospital administrator I trusted and knew well once said to me:
“When you kill people for a living there is no lie too big to tell. The worst as already been done. The rest fits neatly into “the greater good.”
Dr Birx is now at the George W Bush Institute
And now you have an ever expanding list of doctors worldwide signing this and calling out possible Crimes Against Humanity.
What happens if the number of doctor signees gets to 5,000 or 10,000?
Powerful.
If the world shouts, and the tech giants ban their speech, did anyone really make a sound?
If the sound was carried by the few that heard- YES. The tech giants are only giants in their minds and their wallets. And both of those are quaking, at this moment in history.
The High Tech Nazis are guilty of Crimes Against Humanity and mass murder! Not only have they helped Big Pharma and our government murder hundreds of thousands of Americans with crazy, anti-science policies like lockdowns, mask and vexxine mandates; they also suppressed therapeutics like ivermectin that could have prevented most of the deaths we have suffered!
Fauxi deserves the first trial, but Big Pharma and Big Tech need to follow him to the dock!
Is she saying this as justification for why we need to vaccinate the young?
Exactly
Not in that quote, but her quote may well be taken out of context and used to justify the demand.
Totally different subject. I read your post from yesterday where you cited text from an article that was excellent, and you were called out by ad rem.
I wanted to let you know I appreciated you providing the text, as I might not have read the link if you had only provided that.
Wanted you to know that not everyone agrees with the advice you were given. Thanks for proving that text to us, and I didn’t think it was too long.
“Called out”? ….for politely asking someone to adhere to this site’s guidelines? You sound like someone who is just incurious enough to require being spoon-fed.
Perhaps you’d also like to pay our monthly bills for all the extra bandwidth?
Thanks but I actually wanted to reduce that to a synopsis after I discovered that the same text was printed verbatim on the website to which I linked. I originally thought the link went to the legal document but I got that mixed up. But I was too late coming back to edit so couldn’t do much about it.
There are too many comments that are simply cut and paste from a lengthy article when a synopsis would be better and save storage space.
I hope you understand my request was coming from a good place GB. I would never intentionally say anything that would be overly critical. You are the best!
No problem, Ad_rem!
That’s my take too
They are making this worse…PERIOD
Depopulation is the true agenda….
Yes. The only way any of this makes sense is if the goal is to kill people.
YA THINK!!
Yep. I can come to no other conclusion too.
W Edwards Deming used to warn .. “Always ask yourself at each step of the process: Am I making things better or am I digging the pit deeper?”
To this Deming would say: “They are digging the pit deeper.”
Are they perhaps digging the graves for the rest of us?
Those who continue to obediently dig this pit have become but simple pawns played by others. They only contribute to the worsening depravity as they obediently act against their own interest which has typically been reduced to a matter of simple commerce.
The self-immolation in their inculcated behavior is almost ceremonial… betraying their children, their families and their ancestors who struggled to persevere that their life now being wasted and usurped by others could exist.
The other Very Smart Guy said it loud and clear: These People Are Sick.
I don’t believe her story about her father being a political prisoner. Otherwise her mother would not have got a full scholarship paid for by the ccp.
And I’m not sure how a former anti-government political prisoner gets a passport, visa, and ticket money. With money left over to hire an attorney to handle his asylum claim.
That woman is a tool of China. Everything she says is anti-American and reeks of 1000% pure totalitarianism.
Notice she says she has “to be careful because of all the unvaccinated people around her.”
That part of her quote may well be stripped out by the Fake News and used by itself without the context of her carrying more viral load because of her having been jabbed with the Quackcine – and thus making her more of an infectious threat to those who haven’t yielded to the clotshot coercion.
Exactly. the message will be reversed.
Hmmmm, can vaccinated transmit to other vaccinated…..? Yes they can- here she’s trying to say they can’t? I know it’s just a clip- but still. She’s full of it
They can’t if they aren’t sick and therefore have no symptoms.
Jab or no jab, that still applies.
I still believe Dr. Peter McCullough that asymptomatic spread is absolutely nonsensical and never has been a real thing.
I would agree about the asymptotic thing, but the “vaccine” touts reduced symptoms as a benefit. So I am not sure we can rely on that. The unvaccinated know they are sick while the unvaccinated may not.
The vaccinated may not. Correction.
It’s a dangerous combination – politicians are people with huge egos, many with a messiah complex. And most politicians, other than Rand Paul and a few others, are science-illiterate. We saw Donald Trump try to fake it and it wasn’t pretty.
For so many, on both sides, the moral law is that government must do something, anything. To do otherwise would be heartless and immoral. The lack of any useful knowledge of what to do is no excuse. And suggesting that government, sometimes, can do little or nothing, is blasphemy.
The science people can also be highly political / biased. They also rely on outside technology and know how. Who do you think is doing the mathematical modeling? Who is developing the technology?
Here’s the conundrum that politicians face:
If they do nothing and things go badly they get the blame.
If they do something and things go badly they still get credit for trying.
If they do something and things go well they get credit whether their action helped or not.
The math is simple politicians have a better chance of avoiding blame or getting credit if they do something…
Whether their action helps or not.
They have to get those good intentions out there… That’s all that matters, keeping their jobs.
Example: In our town the pols patted themselves on the back for “saving lives” when they voted to close all the parks and mandated a $100 fine for not wearing a mask in public.
No science in that decision, but hey, love us, we’re heroes who save lives, Yea!
This was a political fail, as getting fresh air and sunlight is a big part of staying healthy,
But… They never paid a political price for making the wrong decision, because they had good intentions.
What? She has more virus, but her own children have to careful around unvaccinated people????? They are certifiably NUTS.
Quite a revelation from the b****! Now shall we start working on quarantine camps for the vaccinated?
As long as my quarantine camp is beachside, well stocked and involves lots of recreation with other unvaccinated people, sign me up.
I don’t like being around the beach (to many sand fleas) I will take a mountain cabin though
I have a feeling we won’t be getting Jet Skis. 🙁
Darn it
I have such a heavy load of the Covid variant and I can transmit the virus more easily because of my vaccination, but I have to be careful because of the unvaccinated!!
There has to be an element of the vaccine that is making people to be exceptionally stupid! How can anyone not see the absurdity of what she just said?
DD
Because people learn what they’re told and then feel they’re doing the right thing.
Not one ounce of common sense, questioning, or reason involved.
She was saying she had to be careful around the unvaccinated, such as her own children, to avoid transmitting it to them.
More kids killed with GSWs in Chicago then with COVID deaths nationally. The odds are pretty low.
Indeed.
She seems to be preparing for a narrative shift, in service to the same tyrannical “solution.”
Check out Marek’s disease in chickens. We are heading for that sort of nightmare.
I have been screaming this in my head since they started attacking “the unclean”! HOW in the world can someone that is NOT sick get YOU sick? I get that some people can be carriers and not be sick but not THAT many. WE are only dangerous in their minds. No science. They have deluded people into thinking they have to wear a mask outside BY THEMSELVES!!! Afraid to breathe the air? It is quite up surd and ridiculous! Wouldn’t common sense dictate that IF said container (human vaccinated) has a HIGHER viral load than the unsick unvaccinated container (human) that the container with the HIGHER load would be the super spreader or the one to be “afraid of” or “careful around”?
So, does she recommend reversing the process? Hmmm?
We need “un-vaxxed” passports. Only those unvaxxed can partake in public life. The rest are too dangerous!
Word.
I think I have suffered with ailments since May/June because I was vaccinated as a bystander (being around vaccinated people while unvaccinated myself). Things are only now starting to normalize for me.
At this rate they will end up requiring all those with natural post-infection immunity to the CCPVirus to give blood to the vaccinated, or go to jail.
I know that sounds nuts, but it’s the only crazy tree they haven’t climbed yet!
All the more reason to put us in camps.
For their own good.
Give them time, they’ll climb that one and then find a few more.
And then there is the UK funeral director sharing what he is seeing and his thoughts.
He puts the focus directly on the jab.
https://www.stopworldcontrol.com/report/
WTF.
It’s only common sense which I pointed out here as soon as the breakthroughs began and it was found that the unvaccinated can have 251 times the viral load of the original variant while being in many cases asymptomatic. This video is cued to that exact point in this Sep 25, 2021 video:
CORRECTION: “that the VACCINATED can have 251 times the viral load of the original variant”
The Lancet pre-print. AstraZeneca’s vaccine in these cases:
Transmission of SARS-CoV-2 Delta Variant Among Vaccinated Healthcare Workers, Vietnam
31 Pages; Posted: 10 Aug 2021
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3897733
“Viral loads of breakthrough Delta variant infection cases were 251 times higher than those of cases infected with old strains detected between March-April 2020.
Interpretation: Breakthrough Delta variant infections are associated with high viral loads, prolonged PCR positivity, and low levels of vaccine-induced neutralizing antibodies, explaining the transmission between the vaccinated people.”
The Delta viral load was 251 times higher in their VACCINATED study subjects than in patients with the original strain who could not have been vaccinated because the data was taken before the vaccines existed.
Both these Doctors are conflicted because of their pasts. They can’t give up the dangerous Jabs that don’t work.
Who are you referring to? NOT those two I hope because if you’d watched my linked video you’d know that yoru claim is exactly the opposite of their positions and any brain-dead establishment slander of them is due to the truth of their position.
They even laugh at the ignorance of one key slam against them by showing that it is an ignorant, brain-dead misrepresentation of their position.
You are brain dead! Why promote Jabs for any reason that don’t work and are dangerous for any reason? There is no reason to Jab anyone! All that is needed is Preventive Protocols + Therauptics if Infected!
And, BTW, due to the factors I pointed out, it takes nothing more than common sense to realize that the asymptomatic vaccinated with their huge viral loads and long PCR positivity would be the most likely to be super-spreaders because they won’t even know they’re ill and will go to work and out into the public rather than isolating.
You don’t even need to watch the confirmation from those two MDs to realize that.
Why not?
Because the Jabs don’t work and tare dangerous. I don’t support experts that push Jabs for anyone. All that is needed are Preventive Protocols + Therauptics if Infected. You or anyone else are free to take as many Jabs as you want.
The woman is mental. Parse her reasoning. It makes no sense. Mental illness, thought disorders and personality disorders in the legal, medical, academic and institutional communities are legendary.
Perhaps Wen is truly a poster child. Of what, you decide. She seems 100% sincere. It’s as if the delusion that consumes her is total, stitched up tight and all comforting.
She reminds me of the Moonies from years ago.
Do you hear the buzz of the Cluster B?
That’s why we call them Branch Covidians.
She will use this as a reason to vaccinate children – to protect them. She says she has to be careful of because her higher viral load and they’re too young to be vaccinated.
And not as smart as some probably think.
The jab created Delta and here we are…
Thanks political scientists, you know sheet.
More people are awake than most think. As usual, much like the transgender issue, the media would have us believe that 90% of the country want their boys to be girls and their girls to be boys. Not true.
One of the things that is opening people’s eyes is the NFL. As an example, the Dallas Cowboys are being decimated with players entering the Covid safety protocol. This is happening all over the NFL, and everyone knows that they have strong-armed their players and staff to get the jab.
The authorities and media can push their BS about “well, thankfully they have been vaccinated so that they won’t get it as bad” but this just does not sit right with the average person. The authorities made the mistake of calling it a vaccine. You can’t just change how people understand that word overnight. People have been bullied into publicly “going along to get along”, but they know it’s BS.
There is a very different feel to the fear porn being put out this time around. Retail clerks and doctor’s office staff have their masks on under their noses and whenever I make a comment, they just roll their eyes about the “deadly” virus. I went to a specialist last week. They handed me a mask. I never put it on. Nobody ever said a word, including the doctor. They just don’t believe or care this time around.,
I have to remind myself all the time that whatever the media narrative is…..it’s a lie. They ARE afraid as spoken so well by Neil Oliver earlier today.
Ryan Tannehill the QB of the Titans is the poster child. He vehemently and publicly resisted the Covid-1984 jab until he publicly stated he was forced to take it. Shortly afterwards he got Covid.
One of my close friends is now calling himself Switzerland in the argument, though he is a lifelong kneejerk Dim.
This weekend he casually remarked that he’s seeing a lot fewer people with masks on. And this is in blueMA. I had thought they same thing myself but was wondering whether it was just my wishful thinking.
It’s because in MA the rule is that the poked do not have to wear a mask. Only the unpoked have to wear them.
What I find very concerning is that the vaxxed apparently carry a similar viral load as the unvaxxed, but often are not symptomatic.
This means they are going about their normal routine, and act as superspreaders, infecting both the unvaxxed and vaxed who’s vax induced immunity wanes rapidly a few months after being vaxed.
In addition to being superspreaders, they do not feel ill so even if they are inclined to use early treatment protocols, reducing their viral load and therefore their spike protein load, they don’t treat since they are not actively ill.
Does this mean they don’t present as actively ill until well past the easily treatable first week or so of viral activity, at which point they are loaded with spikes and end up hospitalized well into the critical inflammation stage of the disease?
Could this account for the increase in hospitalizations in highly vaxxed countries like Israel?
“This means they are going about their normal routine, and act as superspreaders, infecting both the unvaxxed and vaxed who’s vax induced immunity wanes rapidly a few months after being vaxed.”
EXACTLY! See my posts above along with the cued to relevant portion video.
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Don’t worry too much. We live in a soup of toxins, trillions of bacteria and viruses. We are all walking around with a load of crud in and on our bodies.
We don’t get sick often from people who are not themselves coughing, hacking, sneezing… That’s “asymptomatic spread.” Largely disproved and extremely unlikely unless you’re in closed indoor quarters for an extended period of time witn the buggers floating around. Open the windows, get fresh air, take your vities.
I’m unvaxxed, and intend to stay that way. Prepared for early treatment if needed.
Concerned much more for the vaxxed who have no understanding of what’s going on and feel “safe” because they have their magic “passport”.
You are 100% correct. The virus is not deadly for over 99% of the population if infected. There is no need to give people a dangerous Jab that also doesn’t work. Follow a Preventive Protocol + Therauptics if Infected.
Exactly, o counsel.
And of course – wash hands frequently. Always has helped and still does.
There is no way to spread the virus without symptoms / being infected. Where is the proof?
CDC said early on that the vaxed could spread it asymptomatically.
That’s when I knew we were f*cked.
I believe Dr. McCullough who exploded this myth.
Oh and I spend long days all the time with a crowd of vaxxed people (because that’s mostly all there is in my area). We hug, shake hands, share food, sing together, whole nine yards. (Most don’t know I’m unjabbed.)
None of them has been symptomatic except one who was in my house for a few hours in that condition. I washed my hands. I haven’t had a single sniffle since Thanksgiving 2019.
Asymptomatic spread is just not a thing. I worry far more about some of the side effects some of them have experienced that they would never in a million years admit might be jab related.
Me too.
The CDC can’t be trusted.
The CDC lies. Michael Yeadon in one of his videos was very clear on the subject: If you have enough virus in your throat to spread it, you’re going to be sick, and you will have symptoms. Asymptomatic people do not spread respiratory viruses.
But would that not be the point? The vaxxed will do the work of being spreaders! Totally planned if you ask me, not that anyone has! Haha!
is the delta variant, D.V., just code for “Death by Vaccine.”
Murder by Injection.
lethal injection
This is coming to a head very very soon. And if they don’t physically hold us down very soon and force a vaccination, the dam will burst, the criminal lethal vax hoax will become common knowledge, and there may be blood in the streets.
In spite of that, people like Wen and the Victoria Premier are still extremely confident. What do they think they know? Are they ignorant of the rage boiling outside of the walls of their liberal camp or do they have something else planned?
This is precisely why a Doctor came out last week and said, basically>>>> If anyone should be in quarantine, it’s the vaccinated.
It’s also why I am being careful right now of being indoors w/ vaxed people.
Luckily, I’m in a climate where it’s possible to meet outdoors w/ people most of the year. Cuz frankly, some of my favorite people *are* vaxed.
That doctor you referred to
https://www.ukcolumn.org/video/frances-long-time-vaccine-policy-chief-covid-policy-is-completely-stupid-and-unethical
Thanks, Try.
Couldn’t remember who it was for the life of me.
Glad you looked it up and linked it.
Live your life! Follow a Preventive Protocol + Therauptics if Infected. The odds are WAY in your favor. There is no reason to take a dangerous Jab that doesn’t work.
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Yes. They are more of a risk. I am hopeful, however, that at a point these vaxxes will stop, and hence stop forcing the evolution of more dangerous variants.
In the meantime, I’m unvaxxed (I strongly suspect I caught this crud in late December 2019 but under no circumstances ever would I go get tested)… I’ll take my chances along with my daily quercetin, zinc, C, D and other vities.
Same here but add prophylactic Ivermectin as per FLCCC.org
The odds are WAY in your favor. There is no reason to take a dangerous Jab that doesn’t work.
The odds are WAY in your favor. There is no reason to take a dangerous Jab that doesn’t work.
Stupid vile idiot wants to vax her children to protect them from her vaxed self.
Can’t make this stuff up.
Exactly, next she’ll appear on TV to say:
“Oh I’m so relieved that FDA approved it for kids… now I can keep them safe”
Here’s the trick:
They are appealing to emotion, which is how the sheeple are led.
We sit here and say:
“that doesn’t make any sense at all, is she stupid?”
because we are the Minority who are critical thinkers who are led by REASON.
That’s the age-old divide, emotion vs reason.
Most of the vaxxed have fallen prey to the emotion of FEAR
(those who have been coerced didn’t have fear of C-19, so the powers-that-be made a new fear: the fear unemployment).
The unvaxxed look at things, and using reasoning skills, say : “99% survival? I’m not afraid of that.”
I just don’t know how to trust any expert any more.
Sammith Maker: Simple. Don’t.
Expert in what? Most people in this field of study rely on outside knowledge / technology.
I trust a few.
Only those who do not work in any government or bureaucratic capacity.
Which is why China Joe is pushing it so hard!
So, a vaccinated person carries a huge viral load and can pass COVID-19 to an unvaccinated person. How? If one doesn’t have symptoms, as in an ‘asymptomatic vaccinated person,’ does one infect via osmosis or what? It makes much more sense that a vaccinated person gets COVID-19 because the dopey vaccine isn’t a vaccine at all – using the original definition of vaccine as giving immunity, not just protection or whatever. Retired nurse, here. None of this adds up. Gonna live my best life and ignore this stuff – and carry sand in my pocket.
You have to have symptoms if you are infected. That is the only way you can pass the virus.
Your last sentence is spot on. This virus kills less than 1% of infected. The odds are WAY in your favor!
Stop the Jabs that don’t work and are dangerous. This is for everyone especially the at risk. Follow Preventive Protocols + Therauptics if Infected.
“So basically, everything that we were warned could go wrong is now happening and therefore, we need to double down and continue doing it, with even more urgency!” Dr. Leana Wen (/sarc)
Pretty sure that I am not the only one that sees all of this as a last, desperate attempt to scare/force enough people into getting jabbed to make sure that there is no longer a large enough control group to prove that it IS the v@xxs and NOT the virus that is causing most of the serious illnesses and deaths!
Maybe the college kids can start chanting “End the vax!” at the football games.
“F*** the vax!”
I look after my two elderly parents who got their second dose in late July. I refuse to get the vaccine at this time. I am around them all day and have not been infected yet. I am really concerned about them getting a booster. Could that be the one that injures them? This is all so confusing. Even amongst the experts who are cautious about the vaccine there is disagreement.
You used “amongst,” must be a Brit. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
I use “amongst” a lot as well. Then again, I have been influenced by Masterpiece Theater. 😉
Regarding the headline, I’m not sure that’s what Wen was saying. I think she was saying that because the Delta variant has such a high viral load that even those who are vaccinated carry, well, a very high viral load of the virus and therefore can spread it easily. I don’t think she was compared vaxed to unvaxed in terms of ease of spread. And maybe that’s not what the headline is suggesting and I just misunderstood it.
I think she was saying that because the Delta variant has such a high viral load that even those who are vaccinated carry, well, a very high viral load of the virus and therefore can spread it easily.
Correct.
The unvaccinated carry the same viral load. They are equally infectious.
It has been posited variants are more likely to originate in the vaccinated. This remains unclear. As is the timeline for how long the “Covid” virus dumbs itself down for better survival (less deadly).
If you look at the # cases vs. death rate in the US (Cases/DR), you will see it is about 1/3 what it was last year. This is either because, 1) the virus is less deadly, or 2) the vaccine(s) help prevent death (but not cases). The statistics do not differentiate. Therefore, the proponents of either theory will claim they are right.
Given enough time, and honest license, data/statisticians can work this out.
Not holding my breath.
That’s what happened at my place of employment. The Company offered $100 dollar gift cards to get the jab, some responded, and soon after we had a break out of Covid-1984.
I know of MANY people who got the shot and then got covid. I also know of injuries and deaths after taking it.
TAKE IT OFF OF THE MARKET!!!!!!
The Leftist tyrants need to all get on the same page. Mandating the poison jab KNOWING that it causes people to become infected and become super spreaders is CRIMINAL, so firing people for refusing to become infected super spreaders should also be CRIMINAL.
The whole interview is here starting at 3 minute 20s:
Part in clip starts at 14 minutes 30s.
This woman is scary. She says “you can’t trust the unvaccinated” essentially calling them liars. And she does this with that stupid smile on her face that makes it even more creepy.
I know God teaches us to love our enemies, but sometimes it is really hard.
What is the logic behind “proof of vaccination [PoV] or a recent negative test [RNT]” requirements?
Even with a PoV you can still both catch and pass the virus, and under such systems there is no proof you do not have it. You are therefore far more likely to have, spread, or catch the virus than someone “only” with a RNT. Additionally your natural immunity, and those of others with “PoV,” is compromised upon exposure to any variants.
If you “only” have a RNT, odds are extremely low you’re carrying the virus and/or are capable of passing it on to others. This is true for others with a RNT you may come into contact with. Furthermore, the natural immunity of you and others with a RNT is not compromised upon exposure to variants.
So what is the value of demanding RNT proof from “unvaccinated” people when the “vaccinated” are just as susceptible to spreading the virus, and might be more at risk upon exposure? There is none. It makes no sense to demand a RNT from only part of a population when the entirety of that population can catch and pass the virus. There is no increased “benefit to public safety” in this scenario; in fact, public safety is at higher risk.
The entire “Vax Pass or Test” scheme is political in nature, and is designed to harass, stigmatize, and psychological wear down resisters through constant testing to force their compliance with injection mandates.
To sum up these injections a) do not provide immunity, b) weaken one’s natural immunity, c) do not prevent one from spreading the virus, and d) are driving variant mutations. As a bonus, it also carries risk of serious long term complications.
So how exactly does a non-injected person with RNT proof pose a more serious risk to the overall health of a work environment, school, stadium, restaurant, or hospital than an injected person lacking such proof? The exact opposite is the case. We know someone with a RNT is not a carrier, while the “vaccinated person” may be, is in fact exponentially more likely to be, a carrier.
A recent negative test can become a positive within an hour, and vice versa.
Case in point: The women who got pulled off the View because of a positive – at least one of them tested negative an hour later.
The tests are pretty much useless, except to politicians who took advantage of them to spread fear.
COVID tests are a moment in time.
Oh, C’mon Keeler, you are THINKING too much…. Didn’t you listen to the vaunted expert? Just relax and follow your emotions. s/ 😉
James Corbett, surely one of the best bloggers out there, has provided access to a comprehensive set of measures we can use to fight back, together with his assessment and applicability of each one. I strongly recommend you check it out.
https://www.corbettreport.com/solutionswatch-vaccinemandates/
USA Today is out with a fact-check already citing “conspiracy website” Natural News.
I know vaxxed people who have gotten COVID from unvaxxed COVID positive people, but I don’t know of one single unvaxxed person who has gotten COVID from a vaxxed person who wasn’t COVID positive and sick.
We would have so many pediatric cases if vaxxed were superspreaders. There are large numbers of households with vaxxed parents and unvaxxed kids. Their kids are fine.
From what I’ve seen only COVID positive people spread COVID, regardless of their vax status. So tired of all the segregation, blame and misinformation. Would love to shelve the term “superspreader”
When I see it, I’ll believe it.
I am with you on this one. If you have symptoms stay home, if not go have fun. Just like we do during flu season (if that is still a thing).
Yep, common sense.
I agree. You have to have symptoms to be infected. This asymptomatic spread crap is BS!
agree saberman, with the exception of about 24 hours before symptoms you are contagious and can spread, just like the flu and many other viruses. But the “asymptomtic” spread, and the lengthy incubation period is BS. If you know you’ve been exposed, self isolate for 48 hours, if no symptoms, carry on , you’re fine.
My husband’s vaccinated sister brought home Covid to her young unvaccinated son, and he got sick about a week later after she was asymptomatic Also, my husband’s other sister’s brother in law who is vaccinated brought home Covid to his young unvaccinated son.
The Delta is affecting the young more so than last year’s virus.
Thanks Kaco. These are the first asymptomatic vaxxed folks I have heard of infecting others. This is frightening if it continues.
BTW, still looking at all the supplements in your last response. Taking notes, making lists. Lots of good info.
My son had a sore arm after vax, but said co workers were calling out sick after 2nd vax. He gets his next in 2 weeks.
Hold on, I mistated this! I meant she got over it and was asymptomatic but still positive a week later, her son and her husband were negative in the beginning while she was symptomatic but then her son got sick about a week or so later after she didn’t have any symptoms.
I am sorry for the confusion! My main point is that she brought home Covid to her unvaccinated son.
Oh, and thanks for looking into it! I am probably going to get the slow dose melatonin but start with the 3 mg, if I need it, and am also going to get the Niacin 250 mg slow release when it is available again. I don’t want to start at 500 due to my liver. But I hope it might help the cholesterol.
Gosh, I hope your son does well, I’d consider aspirin and the CoQ10, something!
Someone posted this video on this article somewhere, can’t find who yet, but would like to see all the documents he is citing throughout. They must be public or part of what was released FOIA.
https://rumble.com/vk2bya-exclusive-dr.-david-martin-just-ended-covid-fauci-doj-politicians-in-one-in.html
How do you know for sure he got from them? Also the tests are not always correct. It could be Rhinovirus which is common with children.
Yeah, overused word, but then how would we refer to the V.P.???
Meant Vice Resident…. V.R. Kumala
Ohhhh, thanks for the clarification! In her case, perfectly acceptable and accurate.
So if you are vaccinated, do you become a super spreader till the end of time?
I would get your heart checked.
No, eventually it kills you. It was never intended to make one immortal.
However, is anyone being honest about the actual “public health threat” allegedly posed by these “spreaders?” The disease has a 99.7% survival rate. But the vaccines do not. This is not the Black Death. This is not even the Spanish Flu.
It’s not even a summer cold in most.
Delta, delta, delta … saying nothing about lambda or R1, even on the CDC web sites … and delta has already peaked. Out of Sweden, everything’s back to normal … herd immunity and now this COVID is just another nasty cold.
The government’s been pushing this too hard and no longer can be believed, especially since they’re letting illegal aliens and Afghan refugees enter the country with nary a shrug (and bugs up the yazoo).
why is a chinese double agent allowed to say ANYTHING in America about the china virus?
haha. Hope this copies out correctly.
Viral load?? What on Earth is all of this talk about viral load? I cannot believe so many people are STILL buying into all of this. Here are the facts. SARS-CoV-2 has NEVER been found in/isolated from a human and subsequently purified and tested in a healthy host, sequenced, photographed and biochemically characterized as a whole unique structure. It is and always will be a notional construct, the material existence of which has never been established. The genome is in silico only, it’s NEVER been found in nature. Let me repeat that so it settles in. SARS-CoV-2, the origin of which is unknown, has NEVER been isolated from a human being, and has never been established as causative of COVID-19. EVER. Since the sham started this has been the case. Worse, viruses have NEVER been proven to be pathogens..EVER. No virus has EVER been observed in vivo in an animal or human being. Which is why this talk of viral load is laughable. It’s a myth. They’ve lied to us for decades, since 1954 to be precise, when they started using indirect cell culture methods to prove viruses were pathogens because to that point they could not prove it by direct method. So show me the studies on how the quantify viral load in humans, I’ll wait. I tweeted to the Wen NUMEROUS TIMES with scientific data, she won’t engage me, because I will shred her on the fraud that is virology. You all need to go to the below website and learn the truth. Because trust me, if this continues, if so many BILLIONS of people continue to believe that viruses are pathogens, we are going to lose civilization. They are using the fear of a virus to break down society. It is working, you only need to look at Australia. America is next, don’t kid yourself. You can’t fight back without knowledge
https://viroliegy.com/
Oh, and Canadian Christine Massey has collected FOI responses and court documents from 107 institutions in >20 countries. Every challenged institution has failed to provide or cite even 1 record describing purification of the imaginary “COVID-19 virus” from any patient sample, by anyone, anywhere, or proof of “its” existence. In case you want to review the FOI documentation, here is the website
https://www.fluoridefreepeel.ca/fois-reveal-that-health-science-institutions-around-the-world-have-no-record-of-sars-cov-2-isolation-purification/
Oh, and for those that would mock me or call me a conspiracy theorist, I’ll provide my email address if necessary and we can debate via email. I would go so far as to make a financial wager that NO ONE on any of these threads can show me a single study proving that SARS-CoV2 causes illness in humans. They never proved it in animals either. With numerous animals supposedly testing positive for “SARS-COV-2” around the world and the warnings about humans infecting their pets, one would think it should be very easy for virology to produce at least one animal that experiences the same symptoms of disease as humans in order to establish an animal model to accurately study the “virus.” However, this is not the case and there still is no proof the toxic cell-culture goo can create the same disease, let alone be considered pathogenic-THIS BIGGEST SCAM IN WORLD HISTORY-WAKE UP! Again, the below website has an enormous amount of information PROVING that in the history of the world, viruses have never been proven to be pathogens. This goes for the grand-daddy of them all too, Spanish Flu.
https://viroliegy.com/2021/09/23/non-human-primate-sars-cov-2-animal-model-study-2020/
So what are people dying from then? Before the vax. Maybe I don’t understand your premise.
It’s not a virus any more than it’s a vaccine.
They are poisoning people with a patented lab (computer) -engineered self-replicating spike protein that infests every organ and bodily system, eventually causing death through whatever inherent weakness an individual may have.
It’s diabolical, because the deaths are scattered among dozens of “causes”. Unfortunately, (for TPTB) some of those vulnerabilities are causing significant numbers of deaths in very unusual ways.
This makes things stick out as being out of the ordinary. Example: youngsters getting Myocarditis.
I am stunned by what Michael just posted and Lurker furthed explained. I need to wrap my brain around it awhile. Thank you both for excellent posts.
From what I’ve read, viruses exist inside the body. Their job is to eat away or discard dead cell debris to keep us healthy. Viruses are a good thing and we want them. I am not even sure they travel outside the body.
Lastly, I am not even sure ANY viruses have been isolated. EVER. If they reside inside our bodies and never venture out, then that makes perfect sense that none have ever been isolated. Viruses are the perfect scam for the medical community because they are invisible and can’t be seen or proven. You just have to believe……
Plandemic! End of Story!
If they were never isolated then they would never have been able to do all these studies with different things to see what kills the virus. Of course, these are thing the CDC will not tell you to take to treat the virus effectively.
I will look over your links but I think viruses have been isolated.
I take it the prog love affair with her is over?