An interesting discussion between two of the world’s prominent voices Geert Vanden Bossche, expert vaccine developer (Belgium); and Robert Malone MD, the inventor of mRNA vaccines (USA).
The meeting is hosted by Dr. Phillip McMillan (UK), who previously interviewed Vanden Bossche and Malone on separate occasions. This video interview is an update on the prior conversations and predictions, along with a discussion by the two leading voices in the scientific community who urge caution.
Vanden Bossche takes the current Israeli data and shows how the widespread vaccination rate is creating pressure on the virus to mutate into variants with higher levels of contagion. The unvaccinated group has been keeping the pressure down by defeating the virus and carrying natural immunity. However, as the unvaccinated population is increasingly made smaller, the pressure on the virus to mutate increases. Subsequently, these mutations stay at higher or more effective levels of infection. WATCH:
https://youtu.be/qP31cfD3YOY?t=1030
Really interesting and informative discussion by true experts. While this country, is stuck with an incompetent mutant, whom an equally incompetent administration considers an expert.
I think we as the rebellion first have to decide just who the enemy is. What I mean is how define them. Are they stupid and incompetent or is it intentional?
I for one believe they are anything but stupid or incompetent. That problem falls squarely on the average voter. Hence why we currently have Biden. I do agree with SD however in that they do have blind spots due to their hubris.
I think this first step to actually winning this battle is simply getting on the same page about just what our enemy is. Intentional or Incompetent because those two definitions are very important to understanding just how to win this fight once and for all.
Genocidal globalists, hell bent on their One World Reset, are ‘intentionally’ gaslighting stupid and incompetent people, who are paralyzed by fear and therefore incapable of accepting the reality of where this is all headed.
And then there’s the rest of us. We know exactly what these people are guilty of: crimes against humanity. We know exactly what is happening here. And we will not suicide ourselves to please Bill Gates.
Here’s the one thing that would most likely be the match from which the US would never return. I’m reluctant to mention it but, if the globalists including the Kenyan stay on their current course without a major setback, what’s keeping them from tying the continuing monthly SSI payments for seniors to the clot shot? Win win for them. They can kill off older Americans while reducing the SSI bill
They haven’t mentioned it yet, surprisingly, nor for other entitlements.
Because they would then have to include the illegal immigrants who currently are not required to be vaccinated.
“They” unfortunately do not HAVE to do anything as they are continually showing We the People.
Agreed, yet I got my Medicare n You booklet yesterday. It included a Wuhan section. I was shocked that it didn’t have thug language in it. It said Medicare pays for Wuhan tests, antibody tests even monoclonal antibody infusions.
Anti vaxer, no. I get yrly old people vaccinations.
Agenda 21. They are trying to kill us all.
I think falsey is a very poor actor. But a good liar
I think they’re only trying to kill of 15-20% of us and they actually think they will force so many of us to get the shot that there will be no control group and therefore, no evidence that the vaccine, not the virus killed them.
Bill Gates said he only wanted to kill 10-15% of all humans. (1-1.5 Billion people with a B). But he said it.
not kill 15%, only have 15% survive.
That’s what I’ve been wondering about.
That scares the hell out of me since I’m in that group and I count on SSI. My husband’s a disabled veteran and he’s concerned too with forced suicide. We are convinced that we have already been exposed to the virus in New Orleans in Feb 2020. We take many supplements (zinc, quercetin, D3, C, Resveratrol, K, Zinc, and more) for years. I’m allergic to most of the ingredients in the jab that I don’t think I need.
Don’t give in and don’t give up unless you want to; unless you decide living with an inoculation of raw Covid-19 disease and forcing your body to fight it to live under their rule is better then living the number of days God assigned to you under His rule. “Wisdom is this, that a man know the number of his days.”
Would you not revolt at this attack on your livelihood?
They might try it with Medicare and Medicaid too.
Blacks are one of the most unvaxxed groups.
After Tuskegee; can you blame them?
If 15 million people descended on DC; it will be paralyzed? In motions and by emotions?
They would have to take notice?
Is that what it will take?
That was my thoughts exactly when it first broke out killing off thousands in nursing homes and all over the world this is their way to sterilize the young and do away with all people that actually knows wth is really going on in this country they want total control and they have convinced themselves that man is the blame to climate change when this is how the planet has evolved since the beginning the poles shift and mother nature runs it’s course and continents shift and new land forms. Yes they have poisoned the air the water and the land dug up all it’s natural resources and oil spills keep occuring yet we’re all to blame for their own greediness ,they’ve become filthy rich the elite that control the world by decimating our planet, then seek to kill us off now that they’re through with us, they can use the young to brainwash and make their slaves for the new world order, sick ..cks!
I read that Pol Pot killed all the teachers, doctors, and professionals. Simple minds are easier to control?
Will SCOTUS uphold religious/medical exemptions?
There’s the question.
That we would even have to ask that is frightening.
I have no faith that they would. Dred Scott and Kelso prove than?
Have you considered our Govt. – Tech reads everything on the internet, erases, or uses, what they read. ‘YeahYouRight” just below thinks your plan is novel. Some have thought but have not publicized this particular incentive. But then maybe your idea is a good one!
You are not the first to consider that.
Hadn’t considered that. It’s a scary thought.
I encourage Gates to go first.
I don’t believe anyone in Gates’ or Biden’s circle have gotten the real shot. Some have had an injection on camera, but I don’t believe it’s any of the actual “vaccines”
I concur.
IN the video below, a nurse dissects the theater of Justin Trudeau (and his wife’s) on-camera “injection”:
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/canada/trudeau-fakes-getting-vaccine/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS
That really does happen. More often than people think
And Hannity, Anderson Cooper, Rachel Madcow, and all others in the public eye, possibly including President Trump (wouldn’t do to have a vaccine injury there, everyone would know and not take it.)
My husband is convinced they are using saline intermittently so the bad effects aren’t all seen at once.
I argued with him but now I am beginning to wonder.
Indeed, they party too frequently without masks. And none report getting Covid before vaccine was available or afterward. What are the odds 500k people inoculated with the real Covid disease have been hospitalized, had limbs amputated, some whose limbs that contorted into pretzel shapes, cannot use their minds and their bodies shake 24/7 for weeks and 14k have died from being injected with Covid…but not Congress and not their Donors.
Any J.J. koolade left over?
Unfortunately, I am one of those stupid people and I am kicking myself for getting the vaccination. I am a senior. I am takng zinc and Vit C regularly from now on. Not sure it will help me, but, maybe mentally.
Found this today about our rotten leader supposedly getting his vaccination.
https://www.marktaliano.net/video-has-justin-trudeau-been-duly-vaccinated-registered-nurse-expresses-doubt-on-authenticity-of-trudeaus-vaccine-by-prof-chossudovsky-jab/
You may want to add Vit D and Quercetin to help the Zinc, to your routine.
Dr. Zelenko protocol.
And melatonin.
Exactly….and 5000 to 10000 mg of Vit C….if you get diarrhea, back off a little! Get some HCQ, just in case you do get sick
You ever live in Helios Coop? Ivermectin is more effective than HCQ according to my spouse a doctor. But we did have success with HCQ which we gave to Covid sick colleagues when they asked for it early on in the epidemic and they all improved. Nothing like a couple weeks of Covid to motivate people to seek a treatment. Early use might have saved them some misery. One case was particularly gratifying. She had been taking zinc and her turnaround was quick and dramatic. These are but anecdotes.
Add up enough anecdotes, and you’ve got the entire world.
+ 12mg tablets of ivermectin daily for the first five days of infection + 50mg zinc sulfate daily +5000 IU vitamin D3 daily.
(along with the vitamin C)
Thank you for this. I have ivermectin in the bottle and also ordered some 12 mg tablets but didn’t know the dosage for them. I use ivermectin monthly and have been for some time.
The number usually given is 200 micrograms ivermectin per kilogram of body weight. The warning usually given is do not overdose.
My understanding of the function of ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine is to help the zinc get into the cells.
ZStack I think its called from Zelenko and it’s 55.00 for a months supply of Zinc, C, D3 and Quercetin. I take all of those but bought individually from drug store
https://VladimirZelenkomd.com
Don’t beat up yourself. Even Malone and Steve Kirsch fell for the safe and effective clap trap. The past cannot be undone. Don’t make the same mistake again with boosters and pray for strength to weather the future. God bless.
Not “boosters”, additional shots because 2 don’t work.
Boosters 5 & 6 will be needed to counteract 4 & 5.
Oh boy, that is funny, but wish they were working on an antidote
I’m not convinced that that’s right. My understanding is that the narrow-spectrum antibodies induced by the injection fade after a few months whereas the broad-spectrum natural antibodies last longer. Happy to be corrected.
Getting the vaccination was the right choice for you and you have nothing to be ashamed about just because the public health authorities don’t explain things well and mismanage how it is presented and distributed.
What side effects have you had, if any?
Peppurr,
I have not reviewed these but saved them because most of my family are vaxed. Perhaps there is something that will help you.
Link to Removing Spike Proteins, Eliminating Graphene Oxide, Reversing Mrna Damage, & More W/ Dr. Nieusma 51:22
https://www.bitchute.com/video/F8djRQzofIF1/
Here are some additional websites offering help to those who took the vaccine:
Summary of the Spike Protein Protocol – David Avocado Wolf
https://ambassadorlove.wordpress.com/2021/06/24/summary-of-the-spike-protein-protocol-david-avocado-wolf/
Graphene Oxide Detox Protocols For The Vaxxed and Unvaxxed
https://stateofthenation.co/?p=80650
I can’t blame people for getting a vaccine that was proclaimed a cure. What I take exception to is the lies and deceit that got us where we are now.
And I cannot condone browbeating anyone else to join this mRNA experiment. If people only knew the truth it would be stopped immediately.
It sounds like you were in the correct target (at risk) population for the vaccine. However, by vaccinating those who were not high risk (didn’t need the vaccine) they are setting up a selection pressure situation to create vaccine resistant strains. Thus, we are in the strange situation where the more people who get vaccinated the more likely a vaccine resistant strain will emerge.
The other perverse learning from the video was that as the virus learns to adapt itself to the vaccinated individuals and coexist and spread among the vaccinated it will be the be the unvaccinated individuals that will serve as a transmission firewall, as they have unique immune systems that the virus has not encountered before.
A few other points were brought up as well:
1] As you continue to chase the virus with the vaccination, you put more and more people at risk for vaccine adverse reactions.
2] As you continue to give people more and more vaccinations, there is a “possibility” that you eventually will desensitize individuals to the spike protein and produce no immune reaction. This is the basis of immunotherapy allergy shots, for hay fever for example.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/allergy-shots/about/pac-20392876
3] They talked a bit about ADE. They were wondering about some of the reports claiming vaccinated individuals had higher viral loads than unvaccinated individuals. This could be a “type” of ADE, where the virus is present in quantity but the disease symptoms are diminished. In the classic case of Dengue ADE, the symptoms of the disease increase with the viral load. Anyway, their conclusion about ADE was that the jury was still out.
4] Apparently they are not doing “viral load testing” but instead relying on PCR cycles to estimate it. Thus, the lower the number of cycles, the more viral load they assume you have.
And finally, all three seemed to agree that chasing COVID-19 with a leaky vaccine will be a futile effort. Thus, eventually, therapeutics, like the unmentionable two, will be needed to bring this under control.
If the conspiracy theorists are right ( I certainly lean that way) and it is intentional, then it may not be futile if they can create a superbug which is a possibility according to a paper I read if they keep trying to fight it with these stupid vaccines. I think that is what they fear but, do not want to mention and create even more fear than already exists. As Dr. Malone stated, Israel is almost the perfect petri dish to gain data on these vaccines so I would watch them closely. He also mentioned how compliant most Israelis are to government directives, a result of living in a state of war for so long I would add. Hence they all got the same Pfizer jab at almost the same time. Ditto for subsequent jabs.
FANTASTIC SUMMARY OF THE 2 HOUR VIDEO. THANK YOU ANON
I just spent the 2+ hours to watch this (had to rewind a few times because this gets very technical at certian points & not easy to follow as a layman).
My only build is the 4 policy improvements recomended by Malone & Peter Navarro(jump to 1 hour 24 minutes in video)
What the heck took him so long? He should have had his jab in January for heaven’s sake. I don’t believe he is getting an injection with anything other than saline.
You need to be taking vitamin D3, 10,000 mgs, vitamin C, zinc, and selinium, 200 mgs. For the rest of your life. The experts say this will help protect the vaxxers.
My spouse says the MMS protocol works to rid yourself of spike proteins. Hard to get this sulphur based remedy as it also combats COV 19 – and health authorities do not want us to obliterate the pandemic. Here is one website: MMS-supplement.com (We have no connection, monetary or otherwise to the site.
Peppurr, In this video neither doctor says that older people should not be vaxxed. They say the danger is that the government is trying to vax everyone and we need the younger, less at risk to be unvaxxed and be our buffer to form herd immunity. Vitamin D is very important also, Malone mentions Vitamin D as a simple protection. Interestingly, the variants give broad base immunity to those unvaccinated.
Also, for those who are vaxxed, more is not better. So, a third shot is not matched to the variant virus and will not help. Watch around 1:29:00 and forward
Based on what was said in the discussion panel, I would encourage you to add anti inflammatory supplements like tumeric and bromelaine.
Ask your doctor if he can test your blood for spiked protein to determine whether you got the real jab or one of saline solution…
From what I understand; the problem is the spike proteins in places of your they shouldn’t be.
Your body may shed them as an unwanted invader?
Shedding has been documented.
Maybe skip the booster?
If you natural immune system can recover; you could be OK with time?
Watch for those IDE symptoms and act accordingly.
”stupid and incompetent people”, “then there’s the rest of us”, Judith, you Are “them”!
Condescending is helpful, a lesson clearly learned from the propagandists.
Intentional, 100%. Not the result of the average voter at all, due to outrageous theft, to execute this phase of their plan. Evil plays the long game.
Honestly, it’s an amalgam of stupidity, incompetence, arrogance, and specific intention.
I’m not saying that every individual pushing the vaccine is stupid, incompetent, arrogant, and intentional but I am saying that collectively they are stupid, incompetent, arrogant, and intentional.
Look at any society where totalitarians take over, what always happens? A few people are at the top of the pile who set the agenda for everything. Then there are butt boys and girls (aka toadies) who do the bidding of those at the top. A bunch of yes men and women currying favor to protect their position and privilege. The scientists, doctors, military, police, government employees, and other toadies are often very smark people always with their fingers in the air to see which way the wind is blowing. Individually they may be intelligent but collectively they are stupid, incompetent, and intentional and that’s what makes it so bad for the regular folks. (Sorry for the rambling and meandering.)
Meanwhile, the regular folks (aka serfs) do all the work and suffer working for the powers that be and their toadies.
The ones that are incompetent are so enamored with the elite that they happily tow the line and do and say whatever they are told just to be part of the big club that the rest of us ain’t in. Think Anthony Fauci, CDC director, Jen Psaki, Joe Biden, nearly all mainstream journalists.
Not stupid.
Not incompetent.
Evil.
I think an exposure of who owns or has bought Pfizer stocks would prove interesting , especially gov. officials , politicians, generals etc. etc.
“I for one believe they are anything but stupid or incompetent. That problem falls squarely on the average voter. Hence why we currently have Biden.“
1 – the stupid and incompetent are out front to distract us. The smart but malicious are working behind the scenes (note that the only Obama people who disagree with the way things are going are the ones not in the current admin).
2 – Trump won. The voters who matter didn’t let us down. The Dems stole the election, as the AZ audit shows, and the spineless Reps aided and abetted them.
I think as Malone said, many politicians just wat to look like they are doing something. Mixed in with this is true self serving evil.
My hunch is it’s intentional.
Me too.
It has to be. Why else would they be so adamant about everybody getting the shot?
Malone said about policy makers, “Give a three year old a hammer and everything is a nail.” Both doctors said we must stop the mass vaccination. Only at risk groups should take the vaccine and the rest of the younger population will get herd immunity.
I heard Dr. Malone jokingly mention “covid parties”. I remember lots of moms in the 50s and 60s getting bringing qll of their children to the home of the kiddo with chicken pox. My efficient mom brought all 5 of us over. She was not going to deal with serial sickness. We all got over it in one fell swoop.
For me, it all comes down to this. If, God forbid, I am stricken with covid, who would I want as my doctors and advocates. The team that Sundance highlights in this post is at the top of my list. They are going against the politicized narrative to care for patients. No agenda, no BS, just patient care.
Contact America’s Front Line Doctors. The last I checked you can get a $90 televisit with a real doctor who will prescribe a protocol for you that may include HCQ, Ivermectin, or something along those lines that actually works, and the prescribes medicines can be shipped to you.
A woman on the Pete Santilli show (on Frank Speech) recently told about how quickly she was “seen” and how quickly her medicines arrived and she was well within just a couple of days.
I, on the other hand, a 74 year old female contracted a bad case of covid but didn’t realize I had it until I was too sick to get out of bed. Yes, I was very sick, but I did get well and I’m just fine now. I know that is what I had, because I had attended a gathering and several other people who were there weren’t feeling well, went for testing and tested positive. 5 of them ended up in the hospital, but all have recovered. One of them, a 96 year old female, is now at home and doing just fine. None of them were placed on a ventilator.
The survival and recovery rates are very high. Pray continuously for health, take high concentrations of Vitamins C, D, Zinc & Quercertin.
I submitted my request to America Front Dr’s on Tuesday, got a call yesterday and are being shipped. I wanted then as preventative.
I contacted them on line, and within a few hours picked up my HCQ and Ivermectin “emergency supply” at my local Walmart. Push Health.com No calls, only internet chat, and credit card. Very fast.
How much is Ivermectin @ Wal-mart?
30 pills from insulinhub.com is $185 which includes shipping, coming from India (12mg tablets). ~$6.16/pill.
Go to: all day chemist dot com
Much cheaper. Shipped from India. May take up to 30 days.
Cole, that is way too expensive… In Nogales, Mexico it is about $1.80 per 6 mg pill…
I also travel to Panama regularly (8 times since January 2021) and there it is even cheaper, $1.65 per 6mg pill…
Try to find a way to get it from Mexico or Panama… Both are over the counter…
How do you know what you are getting is ivermectin?
Serious question.
Well I am from that part of the world and the Pharmacies I go to in person, are legit…
BUT I get your concern… What makes one think India is legit?
If it is OK with ADMIN, I am leaving for Panama again in one week… I can get the mailing/calling info from a Pharmacy that ‘I’ trust and I can post it and then it is up to you to take it from there…
Good Luck…
Thank you, PATRIOT. Vaya con Dios!!
Iz OK…..
TRUE.. a most excellent question. Also very important…
How do you know you’re getting the correct dosage?
Getting the correct dose of Ivermectin controls to body weight. Remember the working premise of modern toxicology: “The Dose Makes The Poison.”
That is for the horse Ivermetin, which is safe is if taken by correct amount by weight which is suppose to be listed on .the bottle.
1 ml/110 lbs.
I received 3mg Ivermectin tabs from FLCCC. For every 30 pounds of weight, one 3mg pill. So, 5 pills a day for 5 days if you weigh 150 pounds along with an antibiotic etc. if one gets sick with Covid.
I don’t know the protocol to take it as a prophylactic, but for that purpose you might try Quercetin and zinc which are over the counter.
Old Zonian here, back in the day, one could get all sorts of US type prescription meds, over the counter. The pharmacy on the ‘border’ road between the Zone and Panama City, in the shadows of Gorgas Hospital, was an effective and cost effective alternative.
Hi Aggiegirl, Zonies are still running strong down there…
Most everything in the Canal Zone and even Panama City is still very US oriented… Most Pharmacies are very legit and finding a good one is not difficult…
I see that ADMIN gave the OK so I will post something in a week or so…
What’s interesting is that my niece works with someone who is based in India and they can buy some kind of kit with everything in it for about $2.50. I had her check him to see if he could send some to me. He said you have to be over 45 to buy it and you can’t ship it out of the country. IIRC I ordered 10 ivermectin tablets from foreign country, cost was around $50. It took a long time to get them because they had to go thru customs.
I told them to diagnose me with an irrational fear of covid and write it up as novel case for the medical journals under media-itis or reality-phobia
Perfect!
AFLD are being overwhelmed with requests. Be patient with them. They are treating the sick first (rightfully so) and getting in the prevention visits as they can. That is how triage works.
I’m glad you recovered!
My family recently had something rather nasty that I suspect was the new variant. No way to prove it, no idea where we picked it up. We shook whatever it was, although it took us longer than usual.
I did that and was very disappointed!!! They never called or communicated with me. Next I knew I got a call from a hospital pharmacy in LA who said it would cost $400 for a one time prescription or $800 for 2! I tried many times to get through to the AFLD to no avail. Very, very disappointed especially because I donated to them early on!!!!!!!
PushHealth.com
I am a little concerned about Dr. Malone motives! He said on War Room that people over 65 should be vaccinated. Instead of ending these vaccination all together like other countries. What’s on his agenda? I’ve listen to all of the podcasts he’s been on. I’m over 65 and in good health and no way am I taking this vaccine which really is not a “true” vaccine!
I wondered about that also. I guess he is saying the vaccination/infection risk/benefit ratio leans towards over 65 to take the vax. But he is very against a one size fits all mandate to get the shot.
And THAT bothers me massively. Ezekiel Emmanuel says the cut off point for us oldsters (somebody’s mother, father, grandparent, brother, sister) is 75. If the jab is dangerous for those under 65, the same applies for over that age. To me, 65 is an arbitrary number. We are not changelings, suddenly decrepit and dying. No..NOT happy with that AT ALL!
Agree. It’s either an effective, safe vax or it isn’t. Which is it?
He said if you have health issues you may want to take it… he’s never said you must take it. He believes in a persons choice for all medical. Re-listen to him.
I’m sorry but he is pussyfooting around the FACT these mRNA jabs have killed people, at least 14,000 here in the U.S. they are not safe nor are they effective. It’s infuriating the creator of these gene therapies won’t really look at the monster he recreated trying to remake the DNA God created in every human being. You cannot put lipstick on the pig of covid jabs.
Exactly
When the choice isn’t safe, what the heck kind of choice is that? You don’t put something potentially lethal on the market and then take comfort in “choice”. Is that our new standard?
Upvoted this last night. Found it again this am to reread. Will paraphrase in future discussions.
I think the politicization has destroyed the trust in the medical profession. Having said that, I think that many of those who reject wholesale vaccinations for all still weigh the risk/benefit factors, and think that the older, at-risk population may benefit from the jab. I absolutely agree with you regarding getting the jab. I am nearly 65, in decent shape, take tons of vitamins to build my immune system, and will not subject myself to this experiment. I would still prefer the medical advice of Dr. Malone over those who refuse to look at each patient as an individual and want the “one size fits all” treatment for everybody.
I don’t understand 65 + or at risk take the Jab recommendation. The at risk would also be at risk from the side effects. He also acknowledges Jabs work which has not been proven.
The Jabs don’t work and are dangerous. Preventive Protocols + Therapeutics if Infected. End of Story.
Just like the arbitrary 6 foot social distancing rule. Somehow the virus is respectful of that distance…not 5’11” or 6’1″. There is nothing magical about 65. It’s just as arbitrary.
Funny how they only need six meters in the EU that I believe is less than six feet.
sickconservative: Six feet is 1.82 meters. Six meters is more than 19 feet, 8 inches.
Yes you are right was thinking yards.
a meter and a yard are approximately the same
meter is about 39 inches
yard is 36 inches
There’s that pesky 6 again. They seem to really like that particular number
actually, the EU seems to follow the WHO suggestion of 1 meter (which is about 3 feet)
here’s a link I found:
https://www.stripes.com/theaters/europe/one-meter-six-feet-how-social-distancing-guidelines-vary-across-countries-1.625118
6 x 39 inches is about 19.5 feet
1 meter is about 39 inches
is the EU really saying 6 meters?
or possibly one or two meters?
7.62 x 39 for some is quite preferred.
Dr. Malone just can’t drop the Jabs. He took them after having the China virus. Navarro pushes Dr. Malone as the second coming. This site references Dr. Malone often. I would like to see Dr. Malone debate Dr. Martin regarding the Patent situation for the Virus and Jabs.
A few public debates, broadcast, are desperately needed. As has been said if one can’t question science, then it’s propaganda. And those frauds and murderous charlatans who are pushing this stuff should absolutely JUMP at the chance to publicly show up their critics. That is, if they were honest brokers., which they are not. Liars and true monsters in my view.
Yes I totally agree.
Malone is walking a tightrope with an essential constituency-building message. Martin has a different role to play. I think we already know however they may disagree they see more in common than not.
Context is everything. Atlantic Monthly and Steve Job’s widow’s crew already tried to smear Malone into oblivion. He himself is struggling with recovering from long haul Covid. There are apparently huge raging policy arguments in the government right now. Many true blue red blooded federales are furious with Fauci, his depraved indifference to adverse outcomes, his Remdesivir conflicts of interest and unconscionably promiscuous Covid vaccination policy and an apparent epidemic of Iatrogenic deaths in our hospitals and nursing homes happening under his institutional hegemony and apparent failure to lead in a medically competent manner.
This thing is a powder keg of potential and actual adverse outcomes with extreme political, economic and military implications of far reaching consequence. The conflicts of interest driving this run deep. There are myriad competing agendas. Much evil in the shadows.
We don’t even know the half of what’s happening and what’s coming, or what really needs to occur for the outcomes we hope for to be realized.
https://rumble.com/vmy4fn-dr.-zelenko-forget-class-action-lawsuits-there-will-be-tribunals-what-if-cu.html
Thanks for the link to the Dr. Zelenko interview on 9/25/21. To quote Dr. Zelenko:
“You need a mechanism in place for dealing with fear, otherwise it overtakes you. For me it’s faith. If I ever find myself in a fear state, anxiety can only live in the psychological space where God is absent.
So if I fill the void with the consciousness of the divine, and that suppresses my anxiety, what I have done is I have taken that anxiety … and have used that as a motivation for spiritual growth.”
There is so much wisdom and medical knowledge in this interview!
The problem is Dr. Martin’s patent research is not getting wide notice. If what is reporting is not accurate it should be discounted but it shouldn’t be ignored.
I watched an interview of Dr. Malone a few months ago, first time I saw him. He said he got the vaccine because he had to travel overseas to do a lot of his work and he felt it was important enough that he decided to get vaxxed. I wasn’t sure what he meant but figured it must have been that you need to show proof of vaccine to travel to some foreign countries.
I did get the impression he doesn’t think the vaccine itself is unsafe but it is unsafe if a multitude of people get vaxxed because it causes variants.
I’d like to hear him talk about the Mrna delivery system that he invented and the problems with it and not just whether the vaccine is safe or effective.
CDC guidelines from a few years ago, for certain types of isolation procedures in the hospitals, used the “3 feet” guideline for certain PPE. My thoughts are that some politician or CDC hack decided if 3 feet is good, ‘six’ is better…random doubling it.
It’s Medicare age which mean they can control your “benefits” – always think of 65 as the age when the gubmint “owns” you from a medical perspective ?
that’s the cold vacant empty “value” of data.
the data shows a pronounced incident of risk going up from about 48 – 99, below of which had a high amount of random….this was not true as age advanced above 48…it becomes markedly clear as the age group nears 80 and so on.
just the opposite effects as you roll down below 48. Until you get to the 99.99999999 protected 4 year old children.
it’s just how this virus rolls.
the rate in which it can replicate without any interference from the human immune response is astonishing. very sars 2003ish…mers too. very same effect…across almost all age groups.
like a super cold. one that compounds rapidly…in young children the likelihood they are not getting sick is due to a very rapid response immune system coupled with that tireless quota of energy and metabolism…..so while no prior immunity, their immune systems are adapted well enough to answer back quickly before things get out of hand. For those aged groups older, this mechanism has already been stressed their entire lives…and now, faced with a new novel virus…not quite as agile, not as energetic….perhaps some health issues that makes pneumonia likely…or other inflammation issues…
there are so many different factors..
there is no special age….the data is cold and unamusing…apolitical.
I wholeheartedly agree with you on this point. These faux vaxxines have harmed at least 700,000 people that the CDC will admit to. Thess vaxxines are dangerous and for Dr Malone and Greet to pussyfoot around that and just say hey let’s just target vax is ridiculous. People are dying and being harmed by these mRNA shots and these guys are worried about pushing variants up with mas vax. Talk about out of touch with reality.
And most of the deaths are seniors by the way. As intended no doubt now.
Yeah that makes no sense at all. Those of us over 65 are, as a group, beset with more co-morbidities than younger age groups, and generally more sensitive to clotting issues, which the FrankenVaxx has been proven** to cause in the majority (about 60% ) of those who get it.
** https://citizenfreepress.com/column-1/dr-charles-hoffe-issues-vaccine-warning/
When they first started vaxxing according to age groups and were so graciously making sure that the oldest people went first, I somewhat jokingly said that maybe they have different formulas for the different groups.
Maybe it wasn’t a joke.
? You’re smarter than you think.
Agree. He should not be advocating the vax for ANYBODY, regardless of age. 20x cancer rate for those who took the jab.
Please provide your source for that claim of “20x cancer rate for those who took the jab.”
We haven’t even had follow up studies of “those who took the jab.”
Mayo-trained Physician now running a sophisticated pathology laboratory in Idaho. Don’t recall the name. There would be an error in the attribution “those who took the jab.”
In what I saw, he simply was disclosing his observations of bizarre and alarming increases in certain cancers and other diseases; increases entirely inconsistent with normal causality and patterns ordinarily seen in his pathology practice.
IT’S A HUGE RED FLAG.
That 20x was actually for endometrial cancers, as stated by Dr Ryan Cole, among at those need seen. This does not mean other cancers haven’t been observed. They most assuredly have, of all types…A lot of them sudden as well.
My brother in law got the clot shot in February. Couldn’t wait to get it. Just got diagnosed with aggressive leukemia. He’s 65.
My sister died last year of leukemia. She didn’t live to get the shot. It was diagnosed 5 years before she passed at age 85.
For Leukemia:
Glivec. Tell him to ask his doctor. It’s a standard medication for cancer, but worth asking about.
It has changed some cancers (stroma tumors, for instance) from a death sentence to beatable.
It was (I believe) originally used for blood cancers.
Just an FYI. Worth asking about- may the Light bless him AND you.
There’s many types of leukemia. Chronic myelogenous leukemia or CML is the one that gleevec is used for. Really the first example of targeted molecular therapy. Saved my life.
Thank you. That’s the name. There are other interviews but this is a start..
https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/videos/dr-ryan-cole-featured-on-the-highwire-is-there-a-covid-vaccine-cancer-connection/
He said he was seeing higher levels in the lab anecdotally and also many cancer patients coming out of remission. It’s something that warrants investigation but won’t be because their goal is to cull the “useless eaters” ahead of Klaus Schwab’s Fourth Industrial Revolution.
Show your source for this. I smell BS.
Z pack and antihistamines works wonders, and they’ve known this for a long time.
Malone’s position always seemed to be for elderly and vulnerable to get vaxxed if they want. That was the initial plan. The problem has come with vaxxing everyone.
I’m truly shocked that healthy, even pregnant millennials have run to get shots, and many people had their kids injected. No normal person suggested that, and it’s the root of the variants now.
“The problem has come with vaxxing everyone.” No, the problem has come with an understudied, rushed to market, unsafe and ineffective vax. It’s simply not ok to just vax some, choice or no choice.
Don’t take it. Cover yourself by ordering nutraceuticals and using vitamins and minerals mentioned above
Zinc, C, D3, Quercetin, etc.
Our immune system diminishes in effectiveness as we age and so even healthy seniors don’t have the systems they had ten years prior. Plus, most seniors have at least one problem for which they take pills, things like HBP or high cholesterol, and others have type 2 diabetes or borderline type 2 like me.
That is why he recommends the vaccine for those over that age.
There was one researcher whose name I just can’t recall who was concerned that the rhesus monkeys tested got Lewy bodies….plaque leading to dementia from the vaccines. The monkeys got in after one week of the shot. He said, “Let’s see what happens to our senior population in 6 months to a year.”
That is what I worry about. I’m 73.
He is right that you are better off getting the vaccine than not at your age.
Why is everything here a conspiracy or an agenda?
He is right.
Except we still don’t have long term data on side effects. The recommendation for over over 65 to be vaxxed is based on chances of dying from Covid. It assumes side effects will be minimal which we all hope will be the case. God only knows.
The assumption is that there will be no other side effects other than what is already known. I wouldn’t believe it personally. Just another roll of the dice.
measuring and weighing risk in this particular format (pandemic, post epic, breadown phase), takes on much more refinment, information, and nuance also.
this virus is no longer novel!
not to the body
not to the mind (we are aware of many factors about risk of c19)
and also we have MORE information about the mRNA vax..
so it is also no longer novel.
one is novel and thus particularly stressful to the body and those other to the mind.
the choices are then based on a totality of knowledge and experience. It no longer feels like rolling the dice.
before:
i heard about this thing and it is scarey….I’ll give up a lot more freedom and security for some protection. that’s the mentality when pandemics first break out. people freak out..but they go in the direction of higher levels of safety…even if unproven to provide such safety. this is normal.
after: (almost 1 year before any mRNA vax gets into a single arm, outside of 2 phase III trials, and during that 12 months….people were infected, people did go to hospital, people did die..and did so at a not so comfortable rate…it happened pretty quickly…and all the mandates, lockdowns, policies, censorship, shadowbanning, stolen election).
yeah, I don’t know too many people sick from covid anymore.
why are they pushing boosters? the cases are going down
if we needed to jab more people, why are cases crashing anyway?
the lockdowns are costing me a fortune in losses
I’m am ready to return to my normal mode of life and community.
I have rational doubts and skepticism about this mRNA gene therapy.
I don’t trust fauci
I think the lab leak is being covered up to prevent world war III.
I think the lab leak was intentionally by the CCP to capture more financial markets, economic power, and political influence.
I believe the election was stolen and the virus pandemic was used to create a ghost in the machine, wrinkle in the matrix kind of paradigm that laid the ground for massive and broad scale election fraud.
I don’t trust the so called health authorities of my own government.
I think when you apply this logic and reasoning to the 65 plus age group, there are going to be a very high percentage of THOSE PEOPLE who might consider the risk with clear eyes and decide, yes, I will risk getting sick or even dying from the vax.
BECAUSE THAT IS HOW CHOICE SHOULD HAPPEN.
you make the very best vax you can, and you put it out there to save some lives.
well, in my opinion: this entire PROBLEM WITH MRNA could have been avoided in the first place and certainly solved by now. And yet, we see the central government continuing to push mandates!!!
so it’s not about the mRNA anymore.
It’s now about trust and faith?
I think those are that never got the jab are unlikely to be convinced of getting it. And for those that got one or two will not get more.
it also happens to coincide with a very fast a large shift in new cases here in the US. Record lows for lots of states and as a whole, case numbers are about what they were in march 2020….but with a virus that is no longer novel. I think we are in good shape for now. But these potentials for mutations are definitely going to continue to be a risk no matter what happens in the united states. The best strategy from this point forward is to direct all focus on regeneron facilities broadly available in each state withing 1000 miles apart of each other. And developing and repurposing antiviral and other therapeutic drug.
my particular wish list:
get going with the c19 virus vaccine (classic coke recipe, hold the mRNA and other gene editing tech)….just your good old fashioned denatured, attenuated, weakened “live” virus. Just let me know clearly if you used human tissue in the testing phases?
if so, again, becomes CHOICE.
God Bless America
You are in agreement with this site.
I think no blanket age rule should be made. Some people at 73 + are doing just fine and it would be crazy to put an unsafe, untested potentially harmful concoction in their bodies. Even at advanced ages the survival rate for Covid is something like 94 %.
Would it also be fair to say that you are not overweight or obese, unlike 75% of Americans?
Dr. Malone has always promoted first and foremost a PATIENT SPECIFIC approach based on individual risk assessment.
Yes. He advocates for a way for individuals to calculate their own risks toward the end of the panel. He wrote an op-ed for Peter Navarro about possible public policy that was published in Washington Times
I don’t think Dr. Malone has a bad motive. He is a virologist concerned about the way the vaccine is being promoted. Many have been vaxxed already. They do discuss ACD at 1:42(autoimmune response) which is a potential risk when a new virus strain emerges.
Fear is a danger too. We have to overcome that and be sensible.
Malone says 1. Don’t overvax 2. Early intervention with anti inflammatory medicine/monoclonal antibodies/Vitamin D 3. Rapid at home test kits 4. Don’t be afraid.
Do not fret about catching Covid. Unless you have a serious co-morbidity, your survival is >98%.
The emphasis should be avoiding the vax.
Ahhh, critical thinking at it’s finest!
98%? Closer to 99.8%.
Agree with your sentiment.
The emphasis is lowering suceptibility. Many of the comorbidities discussed are lifestyle dependent and can be reversed or significantly mitigated by changes in diet and excercise.
Viruses gonna virus.
Meanwhile, Norway ended their pandemic this week and released their people from bondage. The pandemic is over.
Norway Official: COVID-19 Can Now Be Compared to the Flu as Country Removes Pandemic Restrictions
By Jack Phillips
24 Sep 2021
https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_morningbrief/norway-official-covid-19-can-now-be-compared-to-the-flu-as-country-removes-pandemic-restrictions_4014597.html
Japan has gone to wide spread use of Ivermectin and their cases, hospitalizations and deaths have plummeted in a week.
If thats not proof I don’t know what else is.
You are so naive. That is not a double-blind something something test. / S
You are being sarcastic but it would be best if there were more randomized clinical trials instead of anecdotal case reports.
There are RCTs that show benefit to ivermectin.
That is more impressive than observational trials with no controls.
In the end, nothing succeeds like success.
Seems to me if the anecdotal cases are very large in number the randomized trials might not be as necessary. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/09/huge-uttar-pradesh-india-announces-state-covid-19-free-proving-effectiveness-deworming-drug-ivermectin/
So-called randomized controlled studies are a construct created by Big Pharma to prevent the public from accessing cures.
Big pharma has ensured no control group exists. However, if any real science gets to be done there is significant vaxxed versus unvaxxed for data gathering and analysis which may be more beneficial in the long run.
The brain washing is not working on all human forms.
Does Australia know about this?
I must watch this later; I heard Dr. Malone on Sean Hannity radio a couple of days ago and he said the vaccinated are super spreaders and they are infecting the unvaccinated. Hannity almost had a coronary and tried to get Malone to say that the unvaccinated could get it in other ways, but Malone,stuck right to his original statement, vaccinated are the super spreaders. Hannity went to a commercial.
FOX has some of the strictest vaccine mandates out there and Hannity took the shot so he’s probably terrified of any negative news on the faux vaccines.
yep…don’t think you will here him repeat what Dr. Malone said.
Hannity will not put his paycheck at risk.
Which is a testament to his true character as most Americans including me could live several years off his annual income. No, its more about being in the big club that we ain’t in than about the money.
Be assured, Hannity got a placebo. Anyone in a position of power/influence/wealth isn’t getting the poisonous shot. Have you heard of many famous/wealthy people dying from the vax?
Me either. Yea, a couple but not statistically equal to Jane/Joe doe numbers.
So Trump didn’t get vaccinated nor did he recommend it?
I don’t think he ever really got vaxxed. He recommended it but did not support mandates or coercion.
Funny you say that! I was just talking about the same thing with a friend the other day. Like, really?!!!! We see pics of Fauci, et al getting “the vaccine.” Pllllease! Those are saline shots!
I have noticed that too. The vials control to the batch. Were there was the intent to do so, they could easily fill a batch with saline only and tell no one.
And no one would be able to tell the difference if the vial wore a label to complete the masquerade. Those delivering shots are not likely testing contents of the shots being given.
It’s a chilling thought that leads to unthinkable motives as to why they would do such a thing. Then there are personal experiences of blokes like this …
https://odysee.com/@thecrowhouse:2/MUST-WATCH-Funeral-Directer-John-O'Looney-Blows-the-Whistle-on-Covid:9
I would be too. In fact I am afraid for my family and friends who are vaxxed.
In discussions with my naturopathic chiropractor the best bet is to take ant inflammatory supplements and boost their natural immunity with other supplements. Lifestyle changes like diet changes and quitting smoking will also boost immunity.
Fox is dead to me! Hannity and Tucker should quit, but they wont, talk is cheap.
For me, dead and buried deep.
Talk is very profitable to them — $$$$$ millions of dollars….. can buy a bunch of talk…
Money or principles? They have chosen money over principles, I can no longer stomach listening to either of them, Hannity especially.
Apparently two “fully vaxxed” co-hosts of gossip mongering show The View had to be abruptly dismissed from the set, in the middle of a live show, because their test results just came back showing they were positive for the China Bio-Terrorism Virus and #HeelsUpHarris was in the house on due on set any moment.
Of course, #HeelsUpHarris is allegedly also “fully vaxxed”, so one would naturally think why bother. She’s “fully vaxxed” right? And it is “safe and effective” right?
‘The View’: Sunny Hostin and Ana Navarro Test Positive for COVID-19 on Live TV!
24 Sep 2021
https://finance.yahoo.com/video/view-sunny-hostin-ana-navarro-184802320.html
I would like to ask what test is being used that actually differentiates between the original COVID19 and the Delta variant. As, from what I understand, COVID19 has never actually been isolated, how is the Delta variant being identified??
By the way, there is a theory that the ‘Delta variant’ is actually vaccine response…….
One ICU nurse (something I read earlier this week) calls the Delta variant the “vaccine-injured”. Her words.
Show your source for that, please.
Stew Peters tv rumble has an archive of multiple testimony from multiple healthcare professionals.
How about the authorities show their source for their bogus claim that folks have Delta in the first place? Burden of proof is on them.
If the PCR can’t distinguish between original corona and regular flu, then how in the world does it distinguish any variant? CDC announced months ago that they were retiring the test in Dec for this reason.
About a month ago some administration health official at a presser was asked about a Delta test, and they had none, no answer.
They have made bold assertions, fantastic claims from the start, with nothing to back it, and government health authorities and media have simply shoved it down our throats. Accepting it all blindly without “source”.
For that matter, where are the double blind studies that masks of various types work?
That 6-foot distance
works? (as to earlier discussion I believe Europe was mostly 1 meter not 6 meters / 19-20 ft).
Where is the scientific source that flipping a mask down is ok during eating?
That closing bars after 10 pm or restricting how many drinks you can buy stops corona transmission?
I’m not sure which ‘that’ you are asking the source for, but if you’re talking about the Delta variant being a vaccine response, look for the interview with John O’Looney. He is a funeral director in the UK, who has cited the morgue activity that he has seen, pre and post vaccine. You can probably still find it on Bitchute, if you look for The Crowhouse. It’s been wiped on most other sources.
The CDC and other health departments use genetic sequencing to monitor for mutations.
https://www.cdc.gov/amd/training/covid-19-gen-epi-toolkit.html
If you listen to the interview between David Martin and Reiner Fullmich (linked here, although most of the other sites carrying this have been scrubbed:
), he advises that the genetic sequencing for the original virus has never been completely done, but only portions have been indicated, and that this can be manipulated depending on what portion of the sequence is being outlined. Additionally, he advises that parents for these illnesses were applied for over 10 years ago. I believe no information that is presently coming out of the CDC, or other government funded health departments. None of what we are seeing is about a virus.
The Great Israeli Experiment Findings:
Israeli media admit to their people the vaccines don’t work, question booster altogether.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/aawp4Jqzawh2/
Wooo-wheee!
There sure is ‘interesting’ and passionate commentary posted to that video.
Not like here where people coolly and dispassionately debate clinical data./s
Don’t tell me someone there is finally waking up!! My gosh, they’ve had enough data for even the blindest believer in this bioweapon to start questioning. Israel has been one massive laboratory for German Pfizer. Did they forget all their history??
Maybe their history is a bunch of bullcrap just like Covid. Ever think of that?
I see your still at it Phil. Your thinly disguised antisemitism is obvious.
Disguise? What disguise? I don’t see a disguise.
When I get my tablet next week I will be getting Stay Safe by Dr. Steven Quay. This e-book was published in August 2020 and Dr. Quay explains why a vaccine is not the answer.
Dr. Quay has been on the leading edge of mRNA since its discovery and he testified the origins of the Rona was in a lab as there was no where in nature in over 4,000 catalogued structures where the CGG-CGG dimer (linked amino acids) has ever been seen whereas it is a common assemblage in a lab.
Excellent article on Sterilizing vs non Sterilizing Vaccinations. Worth the read…
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=243127
Can anyone validate the accuracy and correctness of the contect in this Denninger article?!
Thank you!
It is. Spelling it out and naming names of those complicit in coverup at the least…at the worst (I fear) accomplices in genocide.
My family Dr who knows the deal pointed out to me a few years ago how the Medical system was changed to “Health” system as the Soviet Bolshevik Democrats gained power
Language is always being manipulated. A very dangerous thing. I’m beginning to loathe the word “health”, almost as much as I detest the word “science.
110% correct. In the movie “Disturbing Behavior” the plan is behavior modification of students by making them cyborg and other methodologies. At the end of the movie the main “scientist” used the phrase “Science is god” which always stuck with me. I see now how in the minds of many useless idiot liberals, Bolsheviks, etc science is their religion. And science can be manipulated, falsified etc to suit whatever demoshevik criminal enterprise or cultural marxist agenda they want implemented
It absolutely is their religion, false as it is. Which includes the ridiculous climate change. Even the substitute pope is a believer, replacing God with Mother Nature. Now shutting the Vatican’s doors to those who refuse to submit to his beliefs.
Ah hem, it’s “The Science”/s.
I bought some nitric oxide nasal spray from a pharmacy in Israel
It is called enovid
A study is being done at phase III clinical trials but it isn’t approved for sale yet in the USA (FDA is dragging its feet)
I got it for $70 per bottle in Evay but just found a pharmacy that will sell it and ship it to me for $40 per bottle.
It has a 95% efficacy for killing all the c19 virus in the nose within hours
In the study it killed all the virus in a petri dish in 2 hours. The study was published in late August. It is legal in Canada but not yet available for sale there, just Israel has it (and its becoming available in india).
Perhaps it is a silver bullet for both the vaxed and unvaxed.
It was VERY hard to find. Damn the fda!!!
How did you get it,please be specific
https://www.israelpharm.com/online-pharmacy/enovid/
Povidone-iodine is much cheaper & easy to find. You dilute it to make a nasal spray & can also use it as a mouthwash. Also, cetylpyridinium chloride-containing mouthwashes in inhibit severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) and reducing the risk of viral transmission.
Some source links:
https://lewlewmedia.com/cetylpyridinium-chloride-containing-mouthwashes-shown-to-inhibit-sars-cov-2-in-oral-cavity/
In Vitro Efficacy of a Povidone-Iodine Nasal Antiseptic for Rapid Inactivation of SARS-CoV-2
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32940656/
Doctor George Domb is an ear, nose, and throat specialist in Redding.
He has been practicing for more than 40 years and he says he has a simple way to prevent the spread of the coronavirus. Doctor Domb says combining “Povidone Iodine”, brand name betadine, with a saline nasal spray is a powerful way to kill coronavirus.
https://krcrtv.com/news/local/redding-doctor-says-he-may-have-a-solution-to-prevent-transmission-of-covid-19
thank you!
I’ve heard good things about a nasal spray called Xlear, which is pronounced clear. Yes, it was anecdotal but it won’t hurt to spray Xlear, 2 to 4 spurts, twice a day, up your nasal passages. I bought it at Walgreen’s for $12.49 for a 1.5 ounce bottle.
I just ordered an 8oz bottle of Betadine solution $15.38 and three 44ml bottles of saline sinus spray $5.30 from Amazon. Follow Dr Domb’s instructions of 1/2 teaspoon per 44ml bottle of saline. Cheap insurance and thank you again Esmeralda for the tip.
I just ordered…….
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Wow – you work fast LOL! Glad you found the info/links useful.
~Es
“It has a 95% efficacy for killing all the c19 virus in the nose within hours”
That is apparently also true if you inhale the mist of a 3% solution of food grade hydrogen peroxide in a low cost home nebulizer. That also helps to clear your lungs. Dr.Dave Marquis recently posted a video recommending that as a preventive practice, and as a therapeutic regimen if you get light symptoms.
Ref.
Also a 1.5% saline (“hypertonic”) solution used in a Neti pot or in a nebulizer can kill most or all of the covid viruses in your nasal passages; also can help clear your lungs.
Ref. https://haidut.me/?p=1634
Dr Mercola published a very good article covering this on Sept. 16, but it has since been deleted along with all other covid articles else older than 48 hours. I recommend everyone sign up for Mercola’s newsletter emails so you can see his excellent articles the day they are first published and download them to your pc before he deletes them.
Thank you GB
I received this link this morning showing that common OCT allergy medications and a few other cheap OTC meds and supplements, with Azythromycin were proven effective in April and May 2020.
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=243683
OTC, not OCT
“However, as the unvaccinated population is increasingly made smaller, the pressure on the virus to mutate increases. Subsequently, these mutations stay at higher or more effective levels of infection.”
Oh, no kidding?!
And yet, we the unwashed are the cause of it all.
Turns out we are what’s keeping the sheeple from already being sicker than they are
COVID giants, my a$$
Think about this
Two men highly respected and quoted often on this site, Dr David Martin and , Dr. Reiner Fuellmich want nothing to do with these Covid giants.
While the giants go on and on dissecting the proclivities of cov2, both Martin and Fuellmich know cov2 is a fraud which does not now nor has it ever existed
The giants make money as long as the Covid idea stays alive . Martin and Fuellmich are trying to kill the cov2 idea
Where can I find Dr. David Martin and Dr. Reiner Fuellmich’s websites?
Here is Dr. Fuellmich’s website.
https://www.fuellmich.com/
I am not sure if Dr. Martin has a website. I have only seen his interview with Dr. Fuellmich. I believe Dr. Fuellmich has all of Dr. Martin’s patent information.
I found Dr. Martin’s website (his company).
https://www.m-cam.com/about-us/
Covid 1984: Better Demoshevik/Bolshevik Revolution in America via ‘science’
Just make Ivermectin OTC and stop censoring info then the covid is over.
Condoms, birth control, needles, methodone, and what else are all free for the asking, but Ivermectin ist verboten at any price.
Spoke with my sister last night. She and her husband both had covid, recovered. Then both decided to get the vaccine. What the hell??? If you had the measles and recovered would you rush out to get a measles vaccine. If you had polio and recovered, would you rush out to get a polio vaccine?
Maybe you should tel them 1)they are at higher risk for blood clots with the vaccines and 2)they will also feel sicker than if someone who didn’t have covid previously.
Carrie, You and I would do a deep dive into this stuff because it is important to us. Doing a deep dive, condensing it and being able to communicate it has become impossible. When someone asks me “Why won’t you get the vaccine?” The only thing I can say, is that I’ve done my research and made my decision.
I sent this study to my GP and I couldn’t believe it when he admitted one of his patients had this happen!!! You have to understand I live in Communist CT- the doctors all do the goose step behind the CDC. But I’m not giving up- I’ve been bombarding him. I just sent him this interview with Vander Bossche and Malone…
I am doctorless at this moment. I live in an area with a very liberal University health care system, (more than one) where everyone toes the party line. They don’t want to hear from the “plebes.”
Try finding a doctor that doesn’t look at yup like a moron.
Dumb. Now that they’ve had Covid, they have 20x better antibodies through natural immunity. Getting a vax will ruin that.
I know. ?
Local medical center now mandating vax. Those who have had COVID, have a 12 month exemption. This is the 2nd time in as many days that I have heard this 12 month immunity coming directly from medical professionals.
Thanks Sundance.
An absolutely fascinating and brilliant discussion.
https://mobile.twitter.com/indepdubnrth?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
The link is to a doctor whose name is
Dr. Marcus De Brun
He has very interesting and important information about the mRNA and DNA vaccines.
Before Covid was let loose, research on mRNA /DNA vaccines showed they can cause cancer, among other things.
I’m over Robert Malone and this peddling the vaccine for the high risk and refusal to call out this experimental gene therapy as potentially dangerous. Yes, the vaccinated are driving the viral mutations, because their immunity is inferior to natural immunity. We don’t have to be careful about interpreting data. We have to end this madness and arrest the people who pushed this insanity. They’re trying to backpedal now that their lies are unraveling, and these scientists who were given a platform were there all along for plausible deniability.
I totally agree. Dr. Malone is conflicted. He took the Jabs after having the China virus. He pushes the Jabs for 65 + and at risk. Why would the at risk take a dangerous Jab? Also Jabs don’t work . Where is the evidence they work?As I mentioned I would to like to see him debate Dr. Martin. My guess he wants no part of that. I would like to see this site address Dr. Martin’s claims.
“I’m over Robert Malone and this peddling the vaccine for the high risk and refusal to call out this experimental gene therapy as potentially dangerous.”
Ms Psaki….is that you?
Dear Lord, watch the video again. (or maybe watch the whole thing?)
“EXCESS DEATHS”
Stinky Pooty, When has Psaki ever questioned the safety of the holy vaccine? If you’re gonna tag onto my comment, come with something better than calling me a lefty for challenging their narratives. I’m way past take it if you want. That went out with free donuts. I don’t have an acceptable death rate or patience in general these days.
100% with you.
I just ordered a mask that is printed with “This mask is as useless as the idiots that require it.” High “shipping” charge, but it seems to be just the right message.
It will make wearing a mask to the local Kroger almost worth it.
Tiny grains of sand in the gears are still … sand in the gears.
that is harsh – I’m a Kroger shopper in the free state of Indiana and no masks required for months now.
“ The ascendancy of more transmissible (and possibly also more pathogenic) Delta strains is a consequence of the worldwide vaccination campaign. This is now the most salient and the most important side-effect of our vaccines. They elicit antibodies that select for more aggressive SARS-2 lineages, which escape vaccine-induced immunity by replicating in the lungs of infected people faster and earlier.”
https://eugyppius.substack.com/p/the-conservation-of-corona
And every time Delta is discussed as “more highly transmissible” they neglect to say it’s also “less deadly” which is the usual pattern with evolving viruses that travel thru populations.
True, but the vaccination is causing people to contract immune complex diseases. Its not a reaction its a serious blow to the immune system as a whole. Think lupus.
Again Dr. Martin. Dr. Malone dispute his claims.
Do you have a medical degree in epidemiology or evolutionary biology of pathogens because if you don’t you should realize that you are “choosing” one expert’s opinion over another’s because of your own biases. I wouldn’t know what those biases are but I know that you have them because all human beings do.
Your choice is NOT because you are an expert yourself and thus take issue with one if these expert’s opinion because of your lab research experiences or clinical experience.
Don’t take it personally, but something other than expert knowledge and experience is making you “choose” one and shun the opinion of the other. One makes you more comfortable than the other.
As Sundance pointed out last week or so, those who went ahead and took the shots have an emotional need to believe they made the right decision. To think otherwise would mean they had to worry they did the wrong thing and will pay for their mistake.
However, the same can be said for those who chose NOT to take the shot. They too have made a decision that makes them need to believe they did the right thing or else worry that exposure to the virus might hurt them.
I said Dr. Malone address Dr. Martin’s claims. Dr. Martin claims appear legit. This has nothing to do with me!
This site chose a side. It chose the side of Dr. Malone. Just pointing that out.
Take it or leave it.
Did you all listen to the full debate between these two learned men? Should I now listen to a debate between two different learned men? Professionals disagree, let us see where they do agree and go from there? Don’t vax everyone.
Malone and Greet had a lot of good info, some of which went over my head because I am not a doctor who has spent my lifetime studying virology like these two. I am sure I would gain more understanding if I listened to them a few times more.
Malone has had Covid and he has had the vax, trying to help his long term Covid symptoms. He also has tried Ivermectin, with good results. He is not pushing something he has not tried on himself.
Malone invented mRNA technology but he does not own the patent. Now, that might bother him.
There is nothing new here from either of them. I would like to see them address the claims Dr. Martin has made.
Also the China virus is not Lethal. It’s a Plandemic. Nothing more than a bad Flu. Dr. Malone prove otherwise!
Each party has an emotional need to feel justified or right. Great. When it turns out it’s a bioweapon to cull the elderly and render infertile the young, how will we cope with that emotional insult?
I just like to see Dr. Malone confront Dr. Martin’s claims. They might not be true. I tend to think they are correct because the information Dr. Martin provides is in the public domain. The Virus and Jab are not novel. They have been around for about 20 years. There is a long disturbing history.
Except the unvaxxed can always decide to take the shot as long as they are not infected. The vaxxed can only decide to not take the booster, but then they will be considered to be unvaxxed by the CDC goons.
You are setting too much store on degrees and so-called expertise. Degrees were given to people who were at the bottom of their medical school class. Some don’t think for themselves and haven’t read the medical literature the people on this site have. I have been printing out peer reviewed articles on early treatment and handing them to my doctors .
To a one, the doctors have not seen the literature and take it hungrily.
Malone must be biased as the “creator” of the mRNA vaccine.
People really do need to see this. I have seen this interview but it should be seen by everyone. These government medical terrorists need to be fully exposed and held responsible for their crimes.
It’s not friendly to America so it will be suppressed by both sides. There is nothing novel about the China virus or the China virus Jabs. They go back to early 2000s. Dr. Martin goes back to that time period. He was involved in exposing this back then. This is a non novel virus to push a non novel failed Jab (both go back to early 2000). A Jab in search of a Virus! It is a Plandemic that goes against the China virus is a “threat to mankind” types.
Boshe in Belgium seems to be very focused on making sure that the vaccinated are not blamed, as if we would blame them, for spreading covid. But the example shows that we unvaccinated dispel many more covid variances than the vaccinated do. So, the vaccinated are much more susceptible to suffer from alot more covid variances than unvaccinated persons who have acheived natural immunity. Call it a leak if you want to, but I call it a rip off. The vaccinated would have been better off if they had never got the shot. What happened to “First do no harm…”?
Both are conflicted. They will not give up on the Jabs. They make good points but in the end still can’t give up the Jabs.
Earlier today, Allison Morrow interviewed Dr. Mollie James. They left YouTube for the 2nd part of the interview so that they could speak freely without being taken down from YT. I like this doctor.
“Covid ICU Doctor Quits Over Vaccine Mandate”
https://rokfin.com/stream/9390/Covid-ICU-Doctor-Quits-Over-Vaccine-Mandate
How do they explain the fact that the delta variant arose in December 2020 in India before there were any significant number of people who had been vaccinated anywhere, let alone in India?
Similarly the mu variant arose in Columbia in January 2021, also before any significant number of people were vaccinated, let alone in Columbia.
All the variants arose before vaccination was even slightly widespread.
The idea that the vaccines caused something before the vaccines were in play is logically fallacious.
RNA viruses like COVID or influenza mutate easily because RNA is inherently unstable (unlike DNA) and especially so because they have a single strand of nucleic acid, no second strand to proofread against unlike double stranded nucleic acids.
The vaccines protect more against the original viral sequence they were designed against than new variants but that does not mean they “cause” the mutations to occur at all.
Different environments can cause certain variants to survive while others die off. Climate is a factor. Think of India’s horrid heat and humidity. Population genetics play into this as well. Certain pressures are put on the virus by the genetics of a population group.
That we live in an age of airplanes is the reason the virus went to all parts of the globe where it met with these different selection pressures.
They have stronger immunity than developed nations because of regular exposure to environmental pathogens, and they also have a superior diet with fresher, plant based food using abundant spices that contain potent anti inflammatories like turmeric and capsaicin. You have lower obesity and related diseases like diabetes that lower your immunity. Sorry, but it all starts with diet and exercise. They won’t mandate that here.
But the point remains that the variants showed up before the vaccines. The vaccines cannot have caused the variants to arise. Mutating and making variants is what RNA viruses (like coronaviruses and influenza viruses) do for a living. They are unstable, have only one copy of nucleic acid (no proof-reading possible) and it is no wonder there are variants. Influenza does this every year.
The mRNA vaccines are against the wild type (or at least the prevalent early mutant). Whereas the vaccine provided some protection against the wild type, delta could gain access and set up an infection. Delta was more able to spread and survive.
Where is the proof the Jabs protect against anything?
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… you still have an immune response and there is still viral reproduction and shedding.
The point is that the vaccines increase and optimize the environment in which the virus can select more serious forms of itself, and by mass vaccinations give these more serious forms of the virus a better and more broad breeding ground.
Vaccines will increase the likelyhood to eventual certainty of a resistant viral strain, by putting selective pressure.
Without the vaccine there is still pressure to evolve. That is why we are not a bunch of monkeys swinging in trees in the Amazon because we had selective pressure to evolve as well. Every organism on the planet does. If we do not adapt we go extinct.
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“Cause is not the right word”. Bossche does a good job of explaining how the vaxxed are shedding more of the variants and increasing their spread.
Jabs are not needed. It’s a Plandemic. Just follow a Preventive Protocol and have Therauptics available if infected.
Dr. McCullough said in one show that India was using the Sinovac vaccine, which is known to not be as effective. Likely leaky and driving variants. Many Indians believe the border skirmishes with China last year was a sneaky way for China to import delta into India.
When did that vaccine show up in India?
The vaccines protect more against the original viral sequence they were designed against than new variants but that does not mean they “cause” the mutations to occur at all.
They discussed this in the video and specifically say that vaccines do not “cause” mutations.
Mutations are the result of the inherent imperfect nature of nucleic acid replication.
They will occur naturally WHEREVER THE VIRUS IS.
The emergence of new dominant variants will be driven by SELECTION be it NATURAL or ARTIFICIAL.
What GVB demonstrated is that the selective pressure by OVER vaxxing against ONE SPECIFIC TARGET will ARTIFICIALLY drive selection toward a specific variant.
So, in the case of DELTA, LAMBDA, MU, etc…….a non-sterlizing vax based on the S Protein from original or ALPHA allows more of those variants (and perhaps future ones) the opportunity to become the predominant ones. And the higher the number of vaxxed, the higher the number of those variants.
Rewatch the section where GVB goes through his slide.
Show me real proof that the Jabs stop anything? I haven’t seen any. Both of these Doctors are conflicted. They can’t drop the Jabs.
The China virus is not novel and the Jabs are not novel. They both go back to the early 2000s. Watch Dr. Martins interview. I would love to see Dr. Malone and Dr. Boshe face of against Dr. Martin but my guess is they wouldn’t want any part of that.
This is a Plandemic designed to push dangerous Jabs that have been around for about 20 years. Same with the virus. Same with the PCR test. None of them are novel. It’s all about control and $$$!
First, SARS-Co-V2 is a bio weapon. It is a chimeric tripartite virus with enhanced pathogenic properties. This mutates more quickly than your average coronavirus. Plus they have about 160 of them in the lab ready to release on the public plus twice as many vaccines I’m sure.
The mRNA vaccine works by disabling your innate immune system, so the RNA can slip into your DNA without your body recognizing it as a foreign intruder. It then programs your cells to make the spike protein so that your body recognizes the virus and learns to create antibodies against it.
But it doesn’t do that for awhile if ever. It’s never been actually proven to work. So, you have people creating mutations walking around with higher viral loads as acknowledged by the CDC, a symptomatic basically super spreaders.
The injected are the infected. They are the ones driving the mutations.
But still the virus is not killing people at an alarming rate. Maybe it will down the road after this PO S Jab. More likely the PO S Jab itself kills more people.
A virus must mutate or die. This is why mutations are always less lethal but more infectious than the original. if the virus kills the host it cannot replicate and will die out. The vaccine is specifically targeted for one type of COVID…all this was explained in the video. Maybe watch again. Its in the slides from the Belgian doctor.
Viruses don’t have to mutate to persist, but even if we assume this is correct and that the virus must become less lethal and more infectious, you are making the case that vaccination causes pressure for the COVID to become more infectious and less lethal. Which is quite all right. We will all have it, eventually.
Here’s another chapter to this:
https://rumble.com/vmlz42-funeral-director-john-olooney-blows-the-whistle-on-covid.html?m
Informative.
I wish more experts, politicians, etc.. would also talk about how this is just a flu that is slightly more dangerous for persons over 65 than an average flu. Overall deaths in 2020 were no higher than any other year. Covid is a scamdemic. Any increase in deaths in 2121 will be from ‘vaccines’ not Covid.
Thank you.
Exactly! Unfortunately people / organizations / companies / Left and Right are milking the situation.
That was a great discussion; really appreciate this being posted.
TWO thoughts on all the vitamins, friends-
DRINK water. You’re gonna need it to process all that stuff. I’m not saying don’t take them, PLEASE do. BUT- you do your kidneys worse damage if you don’t flush the excess through, well.
And take them with a MEAL. Take 2 at morning, 2 at night- or 3/3, whatever.
Don’t hurt yourselves trying to save yourself. If your pee is coming up ORANGE (it can, believe me) DRINK YOUR H20!!
WATER- not (just) soda, beer etc (I drink both, I understand). WATER, FOOD- split them up. God bless you ALL.
Thank you for that information.
TIK TOK……for real!!! Guys get your house in order!!! These guys are the real deal and this explains why Walensky overrode the FDA. They are concerned about ADE You know all the BS we heard last year about Coronavirus well get ready its actually going to be real.
Thank you for posting SD. I believe this is the issue of our time. Sure there’s plenty of crap to worry about but this brings us to the pinnacle. Here we are folks and if it goes south you better know STHF. Stock up NOW!!!
Here’s something interesting from the Federal Register about the virus. It proves Pres. Trump was right all along: SARS-CoV-2 is the China virus. The modified messenger RNA injection is a countermeasure against a biological agent.
The big surprise for me was the HHS secretary’s specificity that it was “a public health emergency that has a significant potential to affect national security or the health and security of United States citizens living abroad and that involves a novel (new) coronavirus …” The declaration mentions nothing else about other citizens affected.
If memory serves me correctly, Pres. Trump took a beating when he tried to ban travel to and from the U.S.
Here’s the summary:
DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND
HUMAN SERVICES
Office of the Secretary
Emergency Use Authorization
Declaration
AGENCY: Department of Health and
Human Services.
ACTION: Notice of Emergency Use
Authorization Declaration.
SUMMARY: The Secretary of Health and
Human Services (HHS) is issuing this
notice pursuant to section 564 of the
Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic
(FD&C) Act. On February 4, 2020, the
Secretary determined pursuant to his
authority under section 564 of the FD&C
Act that there is a public health
emergency that has a significant
potential to affect national security or
the health and security of United States
citizens living abroad and that involves
a novel (new) coronavirus (nCoV) first
detected in Wuhan City, Hubei
Province, China in 2019 (2019–nCoV).
The virus is now named SARS–CoV–2,
which causes the illness COVID–19. On
the basis of this determination, he also
declared that circumstances exist
justifying the authorization of
emergency use of drugs and biological
products during the COVID–19
pandemic, pursuant to section 564 of
the FD&C Act, subject to the terms of
any authorization issued under that
section.
DATES: The determination was effective
February 4, 2020, and this declaration is
effective March 27, 2020.
The Jabs were patented (falsely) in early 2000. They are not novel. Same with the China virus.
Trump issued a national emergency in March, but Biden’s EO references January 31. That declaration is backdated to January 27, which is legally suspicious. January 28 is when FBI arrested Dr. Charles Lieber for selling state secrets to China. They also picked up two of his Chinese students in Logan International with 21 vials of bio weapons. They’ve known for a long time what this is and where it came from. Lieber is funded by the Rothschilds, who bailed out Trump’s businesses several times over the years. That’s why Trump talks up the vaccines. They aren’t safe or effective. The manufacturers have openly talked about their depopulation goals for decades.
Very interesting take. I tend to agree that someone got to President Trump regarding the Jabs.
Trump recommended taking the injection, but after the bad reactions started being reported, I never heard Trump say anything to encourage taking the injection without also saying that everyone has a right to say no. Even after the mandates, he still says everyone should have a choice. He did not recommend the booster.
I know of no proof of the Rothchilds bailing out his businesses several times over the years, but I’ve heard a lot of gossip about President Trump. It is certain that very few people in his position could withstand the the spotlight he has been through, with so little being true in the end. In fact, most people wouldn’t come out with as little solid proof of dirt produced against President Trump—least of all, anyone in Washington DC, mostly those seeding the gossip.
If you could provide links to proof of those bailouts, I would appreciate knowing reliably sourced facts.
For those that do not have the time, go to 1:32 or so…..both of these experts say stop these mass vaccinations!
I know exactly what Dr. Malone advocates. He and Navarro made it known awhile ago. Personally I am totally against the Jabs. This site agrees with Dr. Malone and others of the same view (Jabs for 65+ or at risk).
The Jabs don’t work and are dangerous. Jabs need to stop!
Flu Vaccines are in general an area covered and overseen exclusively by
the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. Although both gentlemen, Geert
Vanden Bossche as Robert Malone MD have worked at Solvay
Pharmaceuticals for the development and production of new design flu
vaccines [1][2], and hence have hands-on experience in the field of
research, design and production of over-the-counter flu vaccines,
today, both are laureated into Kammertisch emeritus Professorships,
who, with regards to the current administered mRNA vaccines, are
positioned into theoretical Gedanken only experiments. This approach
towards the careers of scientists, who have come of age with renounced
experience, sounds very familiar in a branch of business where a single
patent is connected to billions of revenue within a single fiscal year.
A third Giant of COVID-19 research is of course French virologist and
Nobel Prize winner Luc Montagnier. The difference between the previous
two gentlemen and this bold French frog, is that although Vanden
Bossche and Malone deliver a fruitful contribution to the discussed
problems, and also Montagnier in a timely manner warned for
antibody-dependent enhancement of the new COVID-19 jabs, Vanden Bossche
and Malone sofar never uttered a harsh word about their mutual
patent-holding pay masters. Montagnier does not have this problem, and
certainly put on the alarms in a timely fashion this summer with his
statement on May 27, 2021, when all was still well in Israel, and
basically conveyed the same analysis as of todays discussion [3][4].
[1] Solvay Pharmaceuticals Receives Major Pandemic Flu Vaccine Development Contract
ATLANTA, May 4, 2006
https://www.georgia.org/newsroom/press-releases/solvay-pharmaceuticals-receives-major-pandemic-flu-vaccine-development-contract
[2] New flu vaccine process from Solvay
25-May-2003 – Last updated on 18-Jul-2008 at 22:22 GMT
https://www.outsourcing-pharma.com/Article/2003/05/26/New-flu-vaccine-process-from-Solvay
[3] Antibody-dependent enhancement and SARS-CoV-2 vaccines and therapies
Wen Shi Lee, Adam K Wheatley, Stephen J Kent, Brandon J DeKosky
Published: 09 September 2020
PMID: 32908214 DOI: 10.1038/s41564-020-00789-5
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32908214/
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41564-020-00789-5
[4] Kevin Sorbo @ksorbs · May 27
If the vaccine works then what do you care if I take it or not.
Emmanuel Jones @emmanujleo
Replying to @ksorbs
Nobel Prize winner Luc Montagnier….Watch
Thanks Kevin!
For PJones…
Thank you for the patent information. This needs to get out. This is why I would like to see what the Dr. Malone and Boshe would have to say to Dr. Martin. I am sure Dr. Martin has a lot of similar information regarding patents.
Buddy of mine got the injectable liquid. Dosed it per kg weight of person. Doesn’t inject it.
Where is the “SARS-COV-2” Animal Model???
With numerous animals supposedly testing positive for “SARS-COV-2” around the world and the warnings about humans infecting their pets, one would think it should be very easy for virology to produce at least one animal that experiences the same symptoms of disease as humans in order to establish an animal model to accurately study the “virus.” However, this is not the case and there still is no proof the toxic cell-culture goo can create the same disease, let alone be considered pathogenic-THIS BIGGEST SCAM IN WORLD HISTORY-WAKE UP! This website has an enormous amount of information PROVING that in the history of the world, viruses have never been proven to be pathogens. This goes for the grand-daddy of them all too, Spanish Flu.
https://viroliegy.com/2021/09/23/non-human-primate-sars-cov-2-animal-model-study-2020/
First of all is the virus novel? How was this proven? The same Jab technology was used on animals for Coronaviruses going back to the early 2000s and with devastating results. All the information is in the public domain. I would like to see some of these Jab industry people face off against Dr. Martin. I don’t see them getting anywhere near him because they know it wouldn’t end well.
I listened to Dr. Martin several months ago and was impressed (and somewhat alarmed) at what he revealed. I admit I don’t remember all the details but I do remember him going over patents from several years back and explaining them.
I have listened to others before and since then, such as Dr. Malone and Geert Vanden Bossche and others whose names I can’t remember. There’s a lot of information to absorb from all of them and I appreciate having them as sources.
I’m not as critical of Dr. Malone but I do get your point, I think. If Covid is not the novel killer virus we have been told it is, then everything else is fake. No need for vaccines or lockdowns or masks or total capitulation to our “rulers”. We are wasting time arguing about who should or should not be vaxxed or what help or harm vaccines can do when the real question should be “Who is pushing the covid lie on us and why?”
What is the illness people are getting and some are dying from? Is it a bad form of a flu? I know when my son had it, he said it felt like the flu. Others have said it was a weird thing they had never had before.
I would also like to hear Malone and Martin discuss this. Maybe their areas of specialty are different and that is why they are looking at this differently?
If you get to the 1:29:00 mark and listen from there the discussion goes to policy. Interestingly, the only way to reduce “infectious pressure” is to stop mass vax (according to Geert) and let the younger people go, be free to do their thing and live their life. Herd immunity will not be reached with the vax, but the unvaxxed relieve the pressure on the virus. If you are unvaxxed and get the variant you will develop wide based immunity and the variant is less deadly.
So, stop mass vax and let the younger people be the buffer. Malone compares the policy makers to a child “If you give a 3 year old a hammer, everything is a nail.”
There is no need for the Jabs that don’t work and are dangerous. Both Dr. Malone and Dr. Boshe are conflicted. Look at the post above by rmstock. They can’t give up the dangerous Jabs!
This is a Plandemic! The controllable virus is not novel. Same with the dangerous and non working Jabs. Also the suspect PCR Test. They go back to the early 2000s. The patent chains show all.
You do realize Robert Malone has had Covid, taken the jab and tried Ivermectin?
Yes I know all about Dr. Malone. He took the Jab after having the China virus. Yes he also took Ivermectin for long China virus. The problem is he still pushes the dangerous and non working Jab for people 65 + and the at risk. That is my problem with him and others that hold a similar view regarding the Jabs. Dr. Malone is conflicted in my opinion (same with Navarro because of Warp Speed). Rmstock’s post above has some good information on patents. I am sure Dr. Martin has much more. You and the people that run this site are entitled to have a different opinion.
That was a very satisfying discussion and I highly encourage everyone to listen to the entire thing. I did it while deep cleaning the kitchen. There is a lot to digest. I had to pause and look things up. Dr. Malone alluded to it but seems to not be fully aware that US policy toward the “planned endemic” is corruption rather than incompetence. I may be wrong on that.
My two biggest takeaways are (1) I am so grateful to Jesus for putting in my soul to resist the vx at all costs. For a people pleasing rule follower, it has been very difficult and anxiety producing. (2) The vx side effects are likely immune complex disease.
I could listen to these real scientists all day!
These Demoshevik Branch Covidians need to be replaced asap
Quite sad, but a most worthy remembrance in light of the Demoshevik Branch Covidians propaganda
From what I have gathered, if you have already been vaccinated and are over 65, then the booster may be beneficial. According to Dr. Malone, the most risky time for Anti-body Dependent enhancement is in the waning phase of the vaccine. It looks like the waning phase is now about 6 to 8 months after vaccination.
For those over 65, the booster shot probably provides short-term benefit by reducing the risk of severe disease and hospitalization. Depending on your individual health, a short-term benefit may be the top priority. Some individuals over 65 (or older) may be more focused on the short-term than than others. I believe that is why Dr. Malone is recommending the shots for older, more at risk people.
Based on all of Dr. Malone’s comments, I don’t believe he is recommending the vaccine to healthy individuals who are currently not vaccinated. As of today, I can see the benefit of a booster for those who are already at risk and who have already been vaccinated. However, we need to get off the vaccine train at some point because, as Dr. Malone said, frequent vaccinations could make the immune system stop reacting to the virus just like allergy shots. Whether a booster is good or not depends on each individual’s situation and health.
I am not promoting boosters or vaccines. I am not vaccinated and don’t intend to be—and I am in in a high risk category based only on my age.
I’m over 65 and vaccinated and I will not be going back for more. I was very healthy before I got the shots. Not on any long term meds, not even thyroid meds which is pretty common for women my age. Not sure what my health is right now. I feel ok but will see what happens.
I look at like this. I am riding on a speeding train that at some point is going to go over a cliff. I may get killed by trying to jump off before that happens, but if I don’t jump off before that happens…
I’m getting off. I will put my faith in God.
PS The 6-8 month timeframe for me is Oct. to Dec.
Very informative video. Thanks,CTH for posting. I have one question regarding infections caused by vaccinated individuals producing variants. It makes sense that the vaccine is uniquely effective against the Wuhan virus as it was designed to do. And we have learned that the vaccine is ineffective against a mutant virus that manifests as the virus mutates to survive. So a vaccinated individual may host a decreasing collection of the original Wuhan virus as well as the possibility of mutants which are reproducing. If the mutant turns out to be highly infectious as some seem to be, why does that particular individual not suffer from the emerging infectious virus’s effects?
you might be wondering about some “new” things.
subtle, secrets that are known by everyone, but few actually recognize for what yet are.
first the questions..(these are not solely US centric questions btw ..these are global questions)
1. why is YouTube and other social media orgs now changing shadow banning, censorship, and otherwise ejecting material they once determined offensive or conspiracy, or racist, or fake but NOW allowing them?
2. the release of certain falsifiable evidence that the election WAS STOLEN…the c19 virus WAS engineered to perform bioweapon capability… mRNA was developed to enhance the already pandemic level effects? Why the relaxation 0f restricting these facts now?
answer:. those THINGS have already accomplished the purpose… concentrate ALL POWER into a small global shadow collective!
understand where we are NOW.
revealing the “truth” is NOW permitted in order to increase terror..
what you may have had doubts about, are now being published…freely, openly…your worst fears.
this increases terror.
“look what they have done to me! and now they are proudly displaying the power…even showing me how they did it!”
this is terror. this is the beast DECLARING IDENTITY AND SUPREMACY.
definitions matter…real street level definition matters more.
the thug who wants to be feared and respected must eventually demonstrate power to everyone..so flaunting the power is essential to developing.fear and terror to maintain it
you are now allowed to reveal truths because it helps fulfill the immense power of control the Corruptors have already established!
already established.
remember…these are evil and vile and insufferable reprobates, scofflaws… but these Corruptors are very intelligent… very effective.
their weakness of course is similar to anyone else.
physics ..
when you have determined the list of Corruptors…then you may perform physics.
my goal is to supply the US based physics list.
that will not be enough
you must do your part too.
you must take these actions because you have an obedience to God that has primacy.
you will know what to do and when
God Bless you all
Great Read by WHO on covid morbidity rates etc.!!!
https://off-guardian.org/2021/09/22/30-facts-you-need-to-know-your-covid-cribsheet/
Most recent JJCouey video on why the variants are coming from the “vaccinated” not rose un-vaxed.
https://m.twitch.tv/videos/1159285424
Opening stuff can be skipped w/o loss.
Also, need to watch soon, because he usually takes them down when the next video is rolled out.
Note that Couey has been saying for a long time that Vanden Bossche and Malone were/are correct.
Another aspect of this is the suppression of viable treatments (Ivermectin or OCQ) to maintain the “Emergency Use” approvals from the government(s). And with the approvals come blanket immunity for the manufacturers and administering medical staff. People are succumbing to Covid and the truly horrible cytokine storm who could be saved with the Frontline Doctors Protocol. Until you have to agree to pulling the intubation tube from somebody with irreversible lung damage who is otherwise healthy, you really, really don’t understand.
The monster Fauci and his enablers see statistics where we see tragedy.
And they WILL pay.
I acknowledge and respect these scientists. People like Vander Bosche who spoke early on about the mistakes and risks associated with mass vaccinations during a pandemic gave me the immunological strength mentally and physically to refuse the jab. Because they are scientists I appreciate their unwillingness to acknowledge the multiple elephants in the room. These looming mammals refuse to acknowledge science and persists with their political science despite every reasonable expert screaming the obvious. Dr. Malone made it abundantly clear the political science in the alphabet agencies. When is someone or someone’s going to herd the elephants in the room and levy charges of crimes against humanity, call in The Hague and initiate trials like Nuremberg? Enough is enough!
Sundance,
[due to other prior mixed messaging going on, from others, main media…too many others to list… ]
Thank you for posting the Doctors talking to each other – for us to listen and to learn.
Top notch Dr. discussions, both high level, and parts of the talks are summarized, and made simple too – for people to put into day to day actions, with more clarity of thoughts. : )
Thank you Dr. Malone and Dr. Vanden Bossche – and ALL of the many, MANY truly caring people across the world that have been diligently working to evaluate the medical situations – and the working solutions and working to share the whole truths with we the people.
Thanks Doc.
(some of God’s children, sharing Gods’ gifts, with us…)
Wow !!!
HIS truth is marching on… glory, glory… (hymn of the republic)
Sundance, Thank you for sharing this video. For those who may be put off by almost 2hours, start at 1h23m30s.
A remarkable aspect of the discussion is the implicit premise that these three heroes wish to objectively address the evidence and work to mitigate the adverse affects of SARS-CoVid-2; almost wholly avoiding the “political crisis”.
Below in at least one comment (I have not read all) is an allegation of “genocide”. …
I offer this interview: https://rumble.com/vkrdx6-dr.-zelenko-speaks-to-a-rabbinical-court-in-jerusalem.html
A bit difficult to watch listen to at first, because I am neither Israeli nor Jewish; I am a Christian who knows the difference between devote members of the Jewish Community of Faith and those whom simply call themselves “Jewish” (primarily for the benefits of “victim-hood”). Watch and learn.