Some interesting developments in the ongoing Arizona Senate audit of the dubious Maricopa County election outcome. First, Arizona Senate President Karen Fann notes an agreement between the Senate and Maricopa County for information still outstanding. According to President Fann:
“HUGE win for the Az Senate today! Maricopa settlement gives us all the data needed to complete the review of the routers & splunk log to the most comprehensive election audit in history. We got everything we need and more. Maricopa County goes home with its tail between its legs” ~ Karen Fann (graphic source link):
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Additionally, Arizona Senator Wendy Rogers announced earlier the results from the Maricopa audit will be released and discussed during a Senate hearing scheduled for Friday September 24th. {Direct Rumble Link} – Video Below:
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HUGE win for the Az Senate today! Maricopa settlement gives us all the data needed to complete the review of the routers & splunk log to the most comprehensive election audit in history. We got everything we need and more. Maricopa County goes home with its tail between its legs
— Karen Fann (@FannKfann) September 18, 2021
Well thank God for this huge victory. I must say Arizona has led the way. Arizona is very MAGA.
yeah, but I wouldn’t rejoice quite so quickly
not until I’d verified that any disk- or chip-memory in those routers (or anything that has operational logs stored) …
… hasn’t been thoroughly blanked by powerful electro-magnets, bleach-bit and similar overwriting software, or any other means of digital record destruction and monkey-wrenching
call me Eeyore if you will
My thoughts exactly.
Totally agree….happy, but call me skeptical…until the evidence is checked by our good guy experts!
Yup. Like my moniker would say “Trust but VERIFY”.
or simply a counter fit router is provided full of bs data ………this delay of evidence is criminal…
We’ll take what we can. Many of our grass root people have worked their butts off without asking for a plug nickles and will continue on to next. Its taken Arizona citizens working right along side our senate, our house of representatives and pressing them as well as pestering our AGO day after day. Arizonians are far from leaning back and taking a breather, our plans are to go after two more counties and we may eventually just do all the counties in our state. Its taken a unified effort to get to where we’re at since mid April 2021, we’re rooting for Georgia and hope they accomplish their mission too. Liz Harris and her team of volunteers did outstanding job canvasing which they started not long after the audit team started. A lot going on that msm sure as heck ain’t gona cover. We still have a lot to do and hope other states join the fight in taking back our government!
We the People of Georgia applaud Arizona Patriots. The gold standard has been established by the blood sweat and tears of the patriots in Arizona.
Georgia will diligently and tirelessly work to right this agregious injustice of theft. For there is NO OTHER path.
Yes, but the use BleachBit or anything like that would be an admission of guilt, would it not?
Yes, but that is better than allowing us to see the proof that the election was manipulated electronically by actors inside and outside of the US. I am very skeptical that these routers will be either the same ones or that they will be wiped clean. Or maybe smashed with a hammer.
While skeptical, I am grateful for the apparent victory, making the arrogant Maricopa county back down. Now…lock them up anyway.
BleachBit wasn’t illegal for Hillary.
I agree. This is too convenient after three other failed subpoenas.
If the data has been wiped the the AZ AG has a smoking gun. I would declare that wiling a criminal act to destroy evidence and arrest them.
And Brnovich (the AG) has made some GREAT moves- most NOTABLY the BIG win in the SCOTUS for our ability to OUR vote OUR way (NO vote harvesting, NO drop boxes, NOOO auto-mail in ballots) which set precedent for the WHOLE nation to the do the same and SQUASH any legal attempts against the state’s rules.
But- Brnovich also worries me, though I like what he’s done. He has a BIG taste for D.C.- he wants Kelly’s seat (who also got in bogus, just imvho).
And nobody comes back from D.C. the same. I tell my best friend in FL- if I had your Gov, the LAST damn thing I’d want is to see him leave for D.C. (‘DeSantis ’24, etc).
But, I DO hope- with one hand on my holster. The Tombstone way- NOT the tombstone way.
The agreement is that the Senate NEVER sees the data.
This is INSANE.
It was always a foot-dragging exercise.
They should not delay the SEP 24 report.
I am more worried that the Special Master, John Shadegg, is a plant who will do “democrat” which in the real world that I was born into would be considered criminal actions. He will be paid by Maricopa County.
Such as making up or changing data and never allow the Senate investigators see the actual evidence.
Or delaying all the information until after February 3, at which time all election records can be destroyed.
Or starting a fire “accidentally”.
Or getting Hunter Biden to assist him.
Trump won the 2020 election. Bit by bit the truth will come out. And when all is said and done we’ll see that the Biden presidency is illegal. What comes next will be a true constitutional crisis. Go Trump!!!!!
Constitutional crises means nothing to those who piss on our Constitution and wipe their asses with our flag.
Nor does it mean anything to an Executive issuing unconstitutional mandates.
Nor does it mean anything to a Congress that destroyed thousands of businesses
Nor does it mean anything to to those imprisoning those protesting against government.
Exactly!
And in the meantime our country and the whole world is being destroyed! The clock is ticking!
Trump will be declared winner of 2020 in October 2024 and will be term limited (litigation for another few years) preventing him from winning the 2024 election.
? ? ? Oh, ye of no faith whatsoever in the system.
My infinite cynicism comes from a lifetime of knowledge (from books, not the complicit media or “Republican” spew) of political history allowing me to make predictions here proved to be 100% correct thus far.
Look up the books from the mid-90s onward by James Bovard to read what would have clued you in to reality long before Donald appeared and from the 2000s onward by Peter Schweizer.
Give credit to where it is due, remember it was Arizona Attorney General Mark Brnovich who leaned on MCBOS , directing MCBOS to comply with lawful subpoenas or face with holding of Arizona government funds and criminal actions. We Arizonians have been consistent in keeping after our AG, State legislatures and Senate, our grass root people have been involved helping to expose the 2020 election fraud and citizens like Liz Harris led the charge with a team canvasing Maricopa County, volunteers contributed a lot of their time without asking for pay. That is what it has taken to get to the point where we are at today and I pray many other states will do the same. Americans involvement in uncovering the 2020 election fraud truly matters, a unified effort is what its going to take to take back our government and it all starts with your state! Cheers Frenz!
No one’s taking credit away from anyone.
Everyone’s saying what’s been obvious from Day One. The election theft masterminds and criminals have had 10 months to hide, fabricate, alter, and destroy any/all/most/some evidence of their criminality.
It’s interesting that AZ didn’t or couldn’t move forward until after the recall election in California.
You might be on to something there. I hope next Friday is not a Geraldo moment.
Report was delayed due to Rona visiting Cyber Ninjas.
It was complete and submitted before the recall election.
Yes, interesting. He waited a whole 2 days to destroy single family zoning. Wasn’t a secret though, and the Biden plan moves forward. Fundamental transformation. Ech, what a nightmare
I’m lovin’ everything about this…
…especially the part where the nothing-is-happening crowd might quiet down for at least a while… ?
Getting the routers is key – the Nov2020 data is, I’m quite sure, now deleted – however, the deletion itself will be solid evidence of a crime, I’ve heard…
Don’t get excited….Nothing has happened yet!
indeed, the fraudsters have had plenty of time to delete or falsify the router data.
Yes, that worries me.
With you 100%. They have been so resistant all among. Why cooperate now?
LOL…not a techie I can see…” falsify router data?”….good luck with that…you have a better chance of reaching the moon sans suit or rocket
LOL, a gullible semi-techie I can see
any data can be falsified.
substitute the data of a simulated ‘honest’ election
Bull roar. Crimes have been committed and they can be proven.
And nothing likely will, I fear
I actually don’t think it is key. Most of the traffic can be pulled from the deleted logs from the machine thanks to RT Studios.
The Splunk logs are massive, those are network monitoring of everything. I knew there was something up when AZ mentioned this was what being witheld. It’s a lot of information more than network traffic.
Let’s see if it actually happens, and if there is any fraud they identify.
we know the Eepublicans don’t want this out any more than the Dems do. They were integral to its success.
“Maricopa County goes home with its tail between its legs”
Can we keep it professional?
The media is looking for anything to spin in order to discredit the Audit.
You have chosen the correct name for yourself.
Gateway Pundit, is that you?
Yet you can not keep it professional after 1 statement against you.
Im not a Senator conducting a first of its kind forensic audit.
I joke around on here all the time.
MSM is reporting that the routers were not turned over.
Obviously a spin war is going on over this.
“settlement gives us all the data needed to complete the review of the routers & splunk logs”
Doesnt say they are getting the physical routers.
From a forensic standpoint, that doesn’t even make sense.
The routers are the evidence. Access for reasonable examination, either directly or by a mirrored capture, is required under usual computer forensic standards.
And under the Agreement, a mirrored capture of the router appears excluded.
Looks like we lost another one.
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“Maricopa County goes home with its tail between its legs”
Karen Fann
The traffic logs (aka netflow and/or acl events) are typically not on the routers due to size. They send them to a logging platform like Splunk for archival, search, alerting, and analysis.
They need to see the traffic logs to show voting systems were communicating over the Internet. They are hoping to get that info via the agreement.
I’m still skeptical in a few ways:
1. Who knows if the Special Master that was select is on the good guy or bad guy side.
2. The experts being hired could be good or bad actors.
3. There is a narrow time frame identified for review. In these types of situations, games are sometimes played by knowing selecting the wrong date ranges.
4. This causes more delay waiting for the data.
5. There isn’t much transparency in the process.
6. There are still places for lawyers to play games in the process.
I hope that my skeptics views are unfounded. The State had leverage so maybe they did get what they want. Time will tell.
In the meantime, release the report.
Not being an IT guy, I googled spank logs and found this, “Removing data from Splunk is possible by using the delete command. We first create the search condition to fetch the events we want to mark for delete. Once the search condition is acceptable, we add the delete clause at the end of the command to remove those events from Splunk.”
What does this mean, “Once the search condition is acceptable”? Who determines “acceptable conditions”? Is that traceable? Would the deletion activity be recorded or is there a blank slate?
So could nefarious activity be searched and deleted without a trace?
If the Splunk log events are deleted, those actions are also logged. There are ways to eliminate those logs those by setting the time frame they are kept to be short so that they are deleted.
In the end though an absence of evidence is also evidence. It can be proof of intentional tampering for example.
The reference to “once the condition is acceptable” really means a “match”.
Said another way, when you run a search you are looking for something or some criteria to match on. For example, if the bad guys did all their work from a certain computer, it has a specific address. You would search for that address to identify their bad activity. Conversely you could search for that address to delete that activity, if you have the lrvel of access to do so.
What you say is plausible. If the logs are not hosted locally on the primary equipment, my only question is where are the traffic logs physically hosted?
And from that answer would come a list of further questions regarding data integrity (both in real time creation and recording, and as archived) and certifiable chain of custody for examination.
The logs would be stored on the Splunk nodes (conputers). In the IT industry Splunk is heavily used for centralized storage and retention of logs. They can be used as evidence in court cases and part of chain of custody. As with all things digital there are ways to tamper. There are often ways to identify that tampering too. It is a cat and mouse game.
Ok, now that I have looked into Splunk, it appears to be a data management platform that is either hosted via the cloud or at an enterprise level.
So that is my first question: where were the logs physically hosted?
I presume at the enterprise level, which implies that the scope of the original subpoena should have included those machines and their data drives.
And if the County somehow relied on a third-party cloud hosting target, that makes this even more messy, and raised a host of additional issues.
The glaring simplicity of this Agreement, not even including a schedule or a descriptor allowing the creation of a schedule of data targets for examination, creates a Pandora’s Box of fights and delays down the line … which the State is assuming the risk of in delegating final determination to an outside party.
I would have fought this fight a little differently. But we’ll see.
In the event that law enforcement is involved, the physical computers running splunk could be seized if they are running the within the county. Seizing the cloud version would be much harder, though they are still running on virtual computers in the cloud so it is possible.
The thing is, the local Sheriff is not friendly to the investigation (see news today on his statements).
The Special Master agreement may work out and may not. In either event I think the County is just creating more evidence of their wrong doing. The coverup is worse than the crime may be true here.
Corrupting an election is a terrible crime. The communications by a network of bad actors trying to cover their tracks would expose the criminal conspiracy behind the voter fraud.
Well … most cloud based data services allow local mirroring and or copying for redundancy, loss of uplink operation, and disaster protection. But that begs the question. If the primary host is in the cloud, all the copies, whether locally mirrored or otherwise, will all contain the same compromises and corruptions (absent versioning).
I suspect the data was hosted on local machines, on local data drives. It is all about the data.
As this is not a criminal matter and physical seizure may create other target hardships, a redacted mirror copy, certified by the extracting outside forensic technician, could have been extracted in satisfaction of the subpoena.
Getting a ‘no copy’ examination via a Q&A conduit does not seem particularly robust, considering there was a subpoena with all challenges exhausted.
Agreed it is most likely on premise not cloud SaaS based, if for no other reason than due to cost.
Imaging drives is possible however based on the number of nodes involved, drive sizes, potential use of solid state drives, and other factors, sometimes full drive imaging isn’t the ideal option. Some Splunk deployments have tens or hundreds of terabytes of storage per server. In those cases, simply running the searches you need to run on Splunk and exporting the results is adequate for evidence collection.
From what I’ve seen in articles, Cyber Ninjas will be directly involved in the collection of data so I have some confidence there. The rest of the process, I’m not so sure but it’s the cards that have been dealt.
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AZ Senate originally offered to image routers in place AND MCBoS agreed until they got with their lawyers that is…their physical custody is NOT a requirement to copy and investigate their contents
After their lawyers explained how much prison time they could get, they changed their mind.
Just a distinction that makes no real difference, for their low wisdom believers.
Let’s hope that is the technical upshot.
We always fought for the physical evidence, because the original physical evidence is usually the best evidence when expert opinions start getting challenged.
I find the lack of a data mirroring provision unusual in the alternative.
Get to it!!!!!
The Gavin Newsom victory in California’s recall election is being billed as a huge vote of confidence for Joe Biden and his performance so far as president. But the question is, did Newsom actually win? And if he did win, was the margin of victory actually as large as was reported by the vote tabulators?
I wish I knew; however I will never, ever believe newsom won.
Ballot harvesting is legal in Ca and the Dems are very well organized.
GOP, NOT.
well CA has deemed it so but what they are doing is NOT legal…they are collecting unfinished ballots and FINISHING them….THAT is voter fraud on an industrial scale
Well he did.
If every Republican voted it only counts for 30% of the electorate.
And the reason lay at the feet of California GOP.
The goal needs to be convince Democrats Californians deserve better governance.
RNC did not endorse any Republican.
RNC did not focus on why Newsom should be removed.
CA Republicans preferred to fight each other than combine their resources to defeat a tyrant.
And that carpet bagger Cox with his bear ad shows just how stupid RNC consultants are.
The thought of the RNC makes me nauseous. What a joke.
I agree. I’m here and nobody likes his job performance. And whatever happened to that “mask deal” he made with China in the early spring 2020? (The masks never came) And all that “Great Nation State of California” he’d declare at press briefings? There were so many signs all over CA for Trump, maybe 3 for Biden. Statewide. Trump parades, car rallies, it was pretty obvious Trump would win here. And defeating affirmative action decisively, picking up red seats and………..Biden wins? Then we love the direction things are going so much we don’t recall Newsom? Give us a break. He’ll probably get re elected when we’re suddenly having four plexes built on our once quiet single family homes too – oh now you can divide up the lot and sell it too!! Fun. Next, no parking, what was a two or three car driveway will need room for 12 – better get rid of those.
This was a beautiful state when I was a kid. Long time ago. It’s sad.
I agree Elizabeth, Newsom or some one with the exact same political views will always be the governor of California for as far as I can see into the future.
I really use to believe that the hard working Patriots that were putting up such a great fight there could make a difference and change things.
Now with the way these elections are being stolen nothing will change until we get rid of these evil political leaders.
In the PRC (peeples repubic of californicate) of the USSA, the truth is always elusive.
The vote was wisely turned into a Dem v. Trump vote.
I’m a native Californian. The LA area and the Bay Area are blue and don’t let anyone tell you otherwise.
Californians are into symbols and Trump represents to them “no class.”
Yes, a significant proportion of Californians are indeed shallow. Period.
Until the Hispanic population has turned totally against Dems, this will be the result in CA.
May as well count LA to SF and all parts in between + SAC as blue areas because they are heavily so…North of SAC and east of the San Gabriel Mountains from SB up to Yreka is dark red including most of Orange and SD counties along with Lancaster/Palmdale in N LA county
Interesting that you mention that. There were over 8.1MM mailin ballots received before the day of voting. If you look at the numbers reported, they only approach 9 MM votes cast and tabulated. Which means that dayof voters, mostly R’s were only 800K-900K dayof? They are suppressing the dayof votes. Anecdotal reports of precincts were reporting long lines so your speculation makes sense. Newsom gave his speech at 8:45pm, 45 minutes after the polls closed. Maybe Newsom would have still won, but the margin would be a lot less. He is thought to be a Dem nom for Pres in 2024, so his 11:45pm EASTERN time would have a national audience.
I still haven’t seen the final 100% tally…Real Clear Politics had 72% of precinct in…and that’s where it stopped…I also think the Covid scare, as frustrating as it is for us to understand, had a big effect…for better or worse, older people here are still scared of it…older people vote..and they were all just handed ballots in the mail…Elder said he was going to get rid of all mask and vaccine restrictions, and I think that scared older people into voting for Newsom…I’m not blaming Elder, he said what I wanted to hear, but some of the sheep got scared…plus, there are twice as many Dem registered voters in CA than Republicans, and they were just handed ballots…in the end though the state as a whole voted to continue this insanity, and that’s a tough pill for a lot of us out here to handle.. I’ve driven around the past few days just wondering what’s wrong with a lot of the people? and is there any way to ever reverse this? For such a beautiful state, there is a gloomy feeling here now…but we’re not giving up…and I’m not leaving…there’s lots of sand at the beaches we can use to throw into the gears
You can print a ballot from the Cal SoS website and mail it in and Gavin won by 4%. Do you really think Gavin would have survived an all paper, vote in person election?
I can’t help but think something smells.
That’s why we need to be the lead dog!!!
I don’t, but the questions is what happens?
There’s nothing wrong with your nose. Shadegg is a McCain guy from way back, and there are way too many ways he can use this agreement to completely stop any further investigation of the routers. Read the agreement: https://www.maricopa.gov/DocumentCenter/View/71353/Agreement
Appears the County wins with this agreement. The authority of the Senate is basically turned over to a Special Master hired and paid for by the County. The Special Master, thus the County, has complete control of the inspection process and what information is released and his decisions are final and cannot be questioned by the Senate. It appears the Senate must accept the answers to their questions as final. Seems like a license to lie and deceive. The Special Master gets to pick the one to three tech specialists without any input from the Senate.
Wendy Rogers tweet that the Senate got everything, including the routers and splunk logs is very misleading. All they got are ballot envelopes and a Special Master hired and controlled by the County who has complete control over the inspection process and what data is released to the Senate. IMO, This will not turn out good.
Wonder if it has anything to do with Sussman and the potential for Elias.
Not likely.
I figure the router info has been wiped or at least altered. They might already have it and if it has been altered someone is going to jail.
I doubt they need it to prove their case.
Jail is good enough. Many people in jail.
so the lesson is, number 1… cut the funds.
Right…..so Karen gets proof of result changing fraud. So what?
That pretty much takes the award for stupid question of the year.
Oh, you think there is some possibility of reversal of the presidential outcome?
Silly boy.
The best that happens is discrediting of Dem election fraud operatives.
So you think no fraudsters will go to prison?
You might get a low level crumb, all the same that Durham is offering. Means nothing.
What you won’t get is a reversal of the election and a PDJT before 2024.
The number of truly uninformed commenters here is err….surprising.
If Fann’s statement is correct, Katie Hobbs has some explaining to do.
So two more weeks?
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In somewhat related news, the Maricopa County Attorney will return to work on Monday, having been on ‘mental Heath’ leave for weeks after treatment for alcohol addiction and an eating disorder . . .
I am singularly unimpressed by all these wieners … all the audits should have been completed by December … of last year … instead, we may see others done by this December … maybe … a year late and a buck and a quarter short.
And when the results show the PDJT won, all they’ll have to offer is … oops … sorry … it’s too late now to make a difference.
Ineptitude by design.
And for the voter …
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You are mistaken.
Screwed, let me tell you about screwed. DR. Frank said this cheating has been going on for 20 Years! Not, just in AZ, but in every state.
This could mean that you and I have elected very few people in the last 20 years!
After the last five years I have unfortunately becone a skeptic. The AZ BOC has probably been given money by the DNC etc. I hope I am wrong but I will be surprised if there are not more to this agreement than what we are getting. I pray it is a big win but have become a trust but verify guy.
It is wise to be skeptical, but unwise to be cynical.
No. No. No.
This is a BIG mistake.
Shadegg is a McCain Acolyte, a Never Trumper. This agreement gives him absolute control over which “computer experts” will be hired. The County can refuse to answer any questions they want, Shadegg can refuse to answer any questions he wants, and Shadegg will not be required to write a report. The agreement further says that after Shadegg’s investigation, the Senate will make no more demands of Maricopa County. That will be the end. No recourse. Karen Fann got snookered! Read for yourself: https://www.maricopa.gov/DocumentCenter/View/71353/Agreement
I read the Agreement. Fann got taken thoroughly if this is the settlement. There is no reference to physical custody of or access to the routers whatsoever. Simply that more “questions” will be asked of the County. And that to the extent that the County’s computer equipment can be searched, no copies can be made.
As an aside, but in my opinion as a retired practitioner, this is a poorly drafted settlement agreement for a forensic technical examination such as this.
A quick search of Shadegg tells he knows jacksh’t about computers, routers, networking or anything related.
He is also a McCain Crony and has nothing good to say about President Trump. He’s cut from the same cloth as those RINOs on the Maricopa County Board, and he’s probably going to do nothing but obstruct and delay. The agreement gives him a hundred ways to shut this investigation down.
The 1st thing I noticed about this agreement is that I did not see a time frame included–no start or end date except for the photographs of ballet envelopes not previously sent will be sent by September 22nd.
2nd thing I noticed is that the “Special Master” may pick 1 to 3 computer experts to help. It will be interesting to see how many he picks, who they are, and what their qualifications are.
3rd thing I noticed is that there is a lot of ambiguous language with multiple possible meanings leaving the Special Master to make final determinations.
We shall see how it goes. I would have preferred just enforcing the legal subpoenas instead of a “settlement”.
That was my first thought too. No time frames.
In 2022 we will be wondering if we will ever hear anything
I really despise compromise when there is no need for it
One of my mantras. No more compromise. None.
Compromise is why we are where we are today.
Question: there still not has been a canvassing , right, just a partial canvass?
Peter Navarro on Bannon all the time has always claimed the key to showing everyone the truth will come from the canvassing.
Anyone know about the canvassing? I thought they had NOT done it. Why, I don’t know.
not affiliated with the group that did the audit…an independent group led by Liz harris did a large canvassing effort that you likely saw some of the results reported last week
One enemy at a time. The MCBOS has nothing to do with the canvass, but everything to do with the servers. I suspect that the servers, together with the evidence already developed, will provide sufficient justification for an audit that even the DOJ cannot deny.
Maybe by November 2024 they will prove that Donald Trump won the 2020 election…if anyone is still alive in the USA to read about it.
Shut up and keep taking your booster shots. Lol
I wouldn’t trust for a minute that the drives, disks, memory cards, etc. have been kept intact. I’ll bet any incriminating information has been wiped clean. (“What, you mean with a cloth?” Sorry, we’ve heard that excuse before.)
I also hope that the Senate did not have to make a deal for no prosecution in order to get the subpoenaed information since they had all the leverage.
ALSO a crime…ALL records of an election are to be maintained at LEAST 22 months after said election
Good things are going to start happening …much to the dismay of the doom and gloomers.
I hope you are right.
lots of them on this site…….
Not really a victory. The deal calls for the appointment of a “Special Master” (former AZ Congressman John Shadegg) and Shadegg’s job is to answer the AZ Senate’s questions about the routers. Shadegg has the exclusive right to appoint his own tech team. The AZ Senate will not have direct access to the routers and logs, under the control of their own professionals like the ballot audit. The deal has the smell of a scam. Those routers are the crown jewel, and the AZ Senate just gave up direct access to them in this “deal.” In forensics, you need complete and total access to data because in a fraud situation, you don’t know what you don’t know. Huge mistake to allow a third party to control what you know in a fraud investigation. If you don’t ask the right questions in the right way, you can get snowed over by a third-party. Another defeat snatched from the jaws of victory. Deeply bothersome. It’s the Republican way.
A third party forensic examiner is not uncommon in non criminal settings. This is not a criminal investigation context where seizure of evidence has occurred. However, the parameters of the access to the computer data have been poorly defined, which can be fatal to a thorough examination.
This has implications greater than an ordinary criminal investigation. This is the fate of our democracy, and the AZ Senate just caved and gave away its access to the crown jewels. Everything in that agreement is nebulous and poorly defined. The Special Master can give insufficient answers and the AZ Senate will have no recourse to follow-up. The AZ Senate got completely snookered, and our democracy will pay a steep price for it. AZ could have been the first domino to fall, but now without a full and complete independent examination of the routers, the audit itself will lose credibility in a legal fight over decertification. The AZ Senate could have built an airtight legal case with access to those routers, but they completely blew it!
Yes, but technically it is not a criminal matter at this time.
Nevertheless, the subpoena allowed physical custody and presumed assess for examination, and that appears to have been surrendered away to an extent under this agreement. A supervised direct and/or a bilateral direct examination, or an examination of a certified mirrored copy, is the usual course in these matters, depending on the level of contention.
Unless, as someone above has pointed out, the relevant dataset is physically hosted elsewhere other than these routers … in which case the routers are of limited value. And then I would have a list of questions about that data host.
I withhold optimism until we understand who Shadegg hires to technically support the forensic review.
It’s hard to believe that the “Fourth Branch” will allow the following to take place.
Assuming they get routers & splunk logs without prior tampering and the election databases were connected through routers from both on and offshore computers modifying or flipping election votes, then the IP addresses on the routers and servers should confirm. Information obtained by Lindell, for example.
This of course is explosive, not only for the AZ, but for all the States.
“The Fourth Branch also has access to U.S. election databases {LINK}, and can control the outcomes of electronically recorded voting data in every state. That level of influence is used to protect itself from the American people. Ultimately, that is why the Fourth Branch must be destroyed.”
Jack Sellers of Maricopa county, who is working with the coup plotters to hide the router evidence, barely beat his opponent by around 500 votes in that election. Ill bet he actually lost
Go Deeper:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/07/maricopa-county-board-supervisor-chairman-jack-sellers-close-ties-china-fighting-hard-senates-2020-election-audit-maricopa-county/
Seems to me, this reverberates far beyond Az.
Many other States legislatures, are trying to follow the path, trailblazed by Az., and have encountered exactly the same Lawfare delaying tactics.
This should now give them encouragement, to keep pushing.
I do not expect one day to see the election results nullified, and Biden escorted out, and PDJT sworn in.
But, its one more false narrative, in a series of false narratives, being exposed.
Every time that happens, WE gain ground, and the enemy loses ground.
And thats a good thing. So, lets celebrate a win, and renew efforts in other States, to conduct full forensic audits.
Jumping ahead with the possible negative repercussions from this audit. This report could be the start of more audits in AZ in order to understand and confirm how long this cheating has been going on and what downstream officials were not elected by the voters.
Remember what DR. Frank said. According to his investigation, this cheating nationwide has been going on for 20 years!
Here’s a recap of the highlights of the interim report from not too long ago:
70k more ballots received than requested.
10k voters added to rolls AFTER Election Day than cast a ballot in 2020.
Election Server was hacked during the election.
Remote access WAS available.
All access logs were wiped in March, 2021.
Original & duplicate ballots were not marked and can not be identified.
The number of votes certified did NOT match the number of votes sent to the audit.
The hearing on 9/24 should bolster these facts nicely AND – GUESS WHO HAS A RALLY SCHEDULED THE VERY NEXT DAY IN THE FRAUD RIDDEN STATE OF GEORGIA…❓???
The AZ Senate just got roasted. Looks like the traitors are going to win the 2020 election steal. How could they be this stupid? The AZ Senate held all the cards, and then just folded. Simply unbelievable.
“This agreement is a step in the right direction to putting this nonsense behind us,” said Chairman Jack Sellers, District 1 in a statement. “The Cyber Ninjas will never be able to touch the routers or access our data. An independent third party can confirm what we’ve always said: the election equipment was not connected to the internet and no vote switching occurred. And our residents, law enforcement, and courts can all rest assured that their data and equipment are protected.”
https://www.abc15.com/news/arizona-election-audit/board-of-supervisors-az-state-senate-reach-settlement-on-the-election-audit-subpoena
The Special Master that the AZ Senate appointed has — and this is not hyperbole — been repeatedly paid tens of thousands of dollars by a company ran by a member of the Maricopa County COS.
there is NO reason for taxpayers to be on the hook for purchase of new electronic vote machinery, maintenance of existing electronic vote machinery, OR continuation of a fraudulent contract with Dominion
MAKE SURE the deep state does not pick the Special Master. If the router is / has been tampered with, find the SOBs and hang them.
well…in that case…I’m worried. If this truth is about to come out, then cue the false flag distraction that will come out just before anything is disclosed…and it has to be on the level of a 9/11 event…….. “look squirrel”.
Perhaps jaded by the massive criminality that has heretofore gone inpunished, I’ll be convinced of victory when criminals are prosecuted and punished. Until then I remain hopeful but not blindly assuming anything.
The hill is near insurmountable as our own tribe conspires and plots against us. They need to be first in line at the gallows.
Still need the Dominion key fobs and administrative passwords to be handed over to Cyber Ninja.
Dominion ran the election not the State of Arizona. They had all the power and all the responsibility and they refuse to cooperate. How can we trust their technology if they won’t open it up to full forensic audit? The only reason they haven’t been open and transparent is because they know their tech is hot garbage with a million security vulnerabilities. They know they didn’t follow established best practices with security. They know cheating occurred and they know they will get caught red handed if the internals of their systems are laid bare.
Dominion is less trustworthy than Brian Laundrie at this point…
How is the board going to hand over the passwords that they’ve consistently insisted they don’t possess?
Let’s not be negative about this but rather see it as a start to get your Country back to normality. See it as a Yuge wall that is taken down brick by brick.
Here we are ten months after an election that had multiple states with voting irregularities, anomaly’s and statistical improbabilities. One state AZ actually has a forensic audit in process that appears to be a forever process going from one delay to another. One thing is certain in my mind, the evil players in the JoeBama administration and their accomplices the corporate owned media monopoly will make an extraordinary effort to debunk any audit findings that would give cause to decertify the AZ electors.
When will you geese understand….. it matters not how much fraud is demonstrated by audit, Biden or Kamala or the next VP are there until 2024.
But we should listen to a snipe?
Sheesh
Yup, you coup plotters, you geniuses, have got all 100,000,000 + of the hard working, patriotic Americans boxed in with your commie-catch 22.
No way out, says the gang that couldn’t cheat straight.
Wow.
This will be new territory for our form of government, and no one knows exactly how this will play out.
I might just order cable again just to watch Rachel Maddow melt down. And F Fox News, F Fox New, F Fox News
That really would be a great day,
Madcow bawling on live TV
Fox News Bret Baire being made to deliver the news of how Fox news was promoting false information.
That would be a good day.
Now a great day would be Biden and Harris have been thrown from office.
First rule of liberalism is that you never admit that you are/were wrong, because admitting to error could damage the blind faith of their believers.
The left will claim victory no matter what.
Remember how Hillary Clinton’s Rose Law Firm records disappeared. only to be found a long time late on a table in the White House? I’ll bet those were not tampered with. /s
We have been dealing with criminals controlling our politics for decades. But the vote must be fair, right? /s
Yeah, but what did they do to that data before they gave it to you?
They have to worry that white hats already have a copy of the data, and that tampering will compound their crimes.
And another two months pass, getting closer to February 3, when all the voting materials can be destroyed by law. After that, it will just be up to lawfare to question every single thing about the report and show they cannot duplicate their findings.
Gee where have I heard that before..
Careful: These criminals on the board have promised to give up this data before and went back on their words.
Is it a huge win?
Please pardon my skepticism, but why would they suddenly capitulate and cooperate at this point? Have they managed to destroy or manipulate the evidence by now? I don’t trust those people. They’ve been less than forthright and less than forthcoming.
I suspect they have a bomb or a mine planted so that when the “good guys” step on it, it will blow up in their faces. The MCBOS are evil and not to be trusted.
“Stop the winning, stop the winning…… we can’t take any more winning.”
If the left can’t win they try to spoil it for everyone, actually they do win if they turn everyone into cynical discontented bitterhearts. To the dark force, damaging spirits is more important than winning battles.
The perps have to worry that white hats already have the content. And that insiders have already come forward and made plea deals.
LOVE Senator Wendy Rogers !!!!!!
If you have not signed her Decertify Petition yet, Here’s the link.
https://action.wendyrogers.org/DECERTIFY/
It’s about to cross over 1 Million signature and her goal is to have at least 1 million signatures by the next Friday when the Audit report is released.
Our bench of potential candidates for federal elections and political appointees keeps growing.
Yet, the goal posts for the big reveal have been moved out to the 25th. Anything can happen between now and then, so don’t hold your breath.
I am skeptical but it looks like the perps will not be able to stop the process. Now I think it is a matter of who goes to prison, and how much time they will get. I hope justice is brought to everyone that cheated down to the individual.