The original claim of the scientific medical community, in their advocacy for “vaccine passports”, was that vaccinated persons were less likely to transmit the virus.
That narrative only lasted until studies showed that vaccinated persons carried a much larger amount of viral load and shed the virus at a more significant rate….
…So they shifted the vaccine passport narrative goalposts, and said everyone needed to show proof of vaccinations because, safer, or something.
Now, in another collapse of the vaccine passport narrative, a large study comparing vaccinated immunity to non-vaccinated natural immunity shows:
CONCLUSION – “This study demonstrated that natural immunity confers longer lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization caused by the Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2, compared to the BNT162b2 two-dose vaccine-induced immunity.
Individuals who were both previously infected with SARS-CoV-2 and given a single dose of the vaccine gained additional protection against the Delta variant.” [Data Link Here]
If the natural immunity is the preferred and more effective immunity, then why would anyone need a vaccine ID?
None of these studies mean anything to the left.
None of these studies mean anything to the GOP.
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But you repeat yourself.
Any they don’t mean anything to the brainwashed Sheeple because if these studies were important then the MSM “authorities” would tell the Sheeple, right ? That’s how they think.
Yep. Had a super depressing/frustrating convo w/ an old friend tonite.
Brainwashed.
Fed him a few facts. The good thing about him is he listens, doesn’t get crazy and shut down like so many Lefties do. But still……it’s depressing.
Two weeks ago, I had dinner with a long time friend who was vaccinated and had just travelled from Europe via the Caribbean. Halfway thru dinner, I casually mentioned I was not vaccinated. She was in total disbelief, couldn’t believe I would risk her life and her children’s lives, and left the restaurant crying. During my very brief attempt to explain that I prefer to wait for more data and her hysteria, I learned that she is sure she can’t get Covid. (Thus, her long trip ?) So I’m sitting there with someone who’s been collecting germs from 3 countries and umpteen airplanes (and probably shedding the vaccine) having a total meltdown in a crowded restaurant. A previously sane and rational friend of many years.
If she is sure she can’t get covid, why does she think YOU are risking her life?
Oh no… now you did it.
In future I would say something like this (the vaccine) is such a hot bedded topic I don’t talk about it anymore.
Wow — you should say, “From what I’ve read, you are shedding the virus to the unvaccinated right now, but I’m still here, sitting with you anyway.”
That’s close to what I say ea. time during a convo when the vaxxed ppl show their fear of c19. I make a polite point that I’m not afraid of their shedding and that we all should continue group activities and live our lives. So far, not a single person has shown interest in their shedding of the virus to others. Sometimes I wonder if they even know.
-The Covidian Cult
“One of the hallmarks of totalitarianism is mass conformity to a psychotic official narrative. Not a regular official narrative, like the “Cold War” or the “War on Terror” narratives. A totally delusional official narrative that has little or no connection to reality and that is contradicted by a preponderance of facts.”
https://consentfactory.org/2020/10/13/the-covidian-cult/
If you believe they’re brainwashed, the best approach is not facts, at first.
You have to understand their fear. You have to have empathy for that fear. When I listen, I discover they don’t know much, they have little facts, and don’t care. They have similar traits as people suffering from addiction, their brains are scrambled.
“Please, just one more shot. I promise. Just one more, please. I need it. I can’t just stop like you, it’s not that easy for me. Just one more. Just one. Please.”
If I think they can be reached, I try approaching people like an intervention, delicately.
They’re most likely suffering from mild depression or anxiety from psychological abuse(overexposure to media).
“What’s on CovidTv tonight? How many died? I need to know who to blame, who to hate. Please.”
Not suggesting this is your friend, but that’s how my friend snapped out of the milieu. YMMV.
-COVID’s mental-health toll: how scientists are tracking a surge in depression
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00175-z
It does seem that mass psychosis stems from hearing too much fake news. I am not part of that matrix. I’ll bet that one of the planned injections will run that little TV broadcast off of a chip inside of their heads in perpetuity. Can you IMAGINE?
I’m with ya. Been trying to educate a long time friend. That titanium barrier is near impossible to penetrate.
Raise you hand if you’ve heard
“If it were true it would be in the news”
Same dynamic that has kept the global warming variants going for 50-some years now.
Fascists never care about the truth.
With the exception of Senator Paul…
What Americans need to develop most is a natural immunity to slavery and oppression. If Biden and the Democrats don’t trigger it, I don’t know what will.
offcoursenation: You must be referring to natural antibidens. I was born with them.
Then it is your patriotic duty to give blood every 2 months.
My liberty has immunized me against tyranny.
https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1430639009190096900
If Fauci could only patent natural immunity, we’d be forced to get that instead.
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Giant Pink Bear for you.
You forget. The bigger profit is in the repeat business.
Natural immunity protects better and longer. Even if they could profit, less to scare people with and a lot less repeat business.
Natural immunity is far superior and durable. You can get it for free.
God does not have the profit motive.
God’s motive is ALWAYS love…if He could love someone as vile as me, think of the depth of His love…something we often struggle with is this love is for EVERYONE…His wish is “NONE should perish, but all have everlasting life”
Berenson is pretty much a daily must read. A guy who should be winning journalism awards but won’t. We know those will go to the people who has lied the most and most outlandishly about covid.
Question, if anyone knows the answer — did the vaccine kill your natural immunity? I am of an older age with at least one co-morbidity, so I did get vaccinated after pondering for a long time. So, I used to have pretty good natural immunity. Is it gone?
In this data, the answer appears to be NO. But they only looked at one shot for people who had covid, not two. In health terms, the second shot does more damage. Not sure if that is when the immune system is damaged.
Also, they did not look at other immune system issues.
Deborah, this is just one study…there are multiple studies indicating lower immune responses to other viruses. It is worth investigating, especially as we head into the fall and flu season.
https://americanconservativemovement.com/2021/08/22/fda-ignores-new-uk-study-showing-pfizer-vaccine-destroys-t-cells-weakens-the-immune-system/
Deborah, They don’t really know for sure what happens to your immune system or for how long it is affected, although it does seem that those vaccinated are more vulnerable to the variants than those unvaxxed.Take a lot of Vitamin D, with zinc and possibly Quercetin to build up your immune system.
It’s a good idea anyway to take care of yourself.
If you have extra pounds, try to lose some weight.
If you get sick with Covid like symptoms go to an Urgent Care or your doctor and see about getting a monoclonal infusion of antibodies or Regeneron as early as possible.
Ivermectin is touted a a good preventative but not FDA approved for use with Covid.
It may be you will have no problem at all but the vax does not seem to stop the variants.
Dr. Bhakdi implores you not to get any booster if you’ve gotten the first jabs.
Thai-German microbiologist Sucharit Bhakdi, explains on TheNewAmerican.com (April 15, Video below).
Bhakdi is a former professor at Mainz University where he headed the Institute of Medical Microbiology (1991-2012).
https://gloria.tv/post/2M4GfhQwfvJw6JjBQVmMnfhb6
This is Real
Homie don’t play ‘dat
MP,
What I would respond to the NSW Gov’t about this is normally considered physically impossible. However, a bunch of spineless, cowardly fools like that might just be able to manage it.
How did Australia revert to being a Penal Colony?
“common sense” gun legislation
“Would you like a parole officer with that ankle monitor?”
This is abuse. This is oppression. This is tyranny. This is unacceptable.
Hope the truckers shut the fascists down.
Will they? Are they? I just saw one video of some random dude talking about it. Are they actually going to do anything, or is it just talk like everyone else seems to do?
“both previously infected…and given a single dose…gained additional protection”
it looks like just catching it helped. lockdown and mask would lessen people getting it potentially.
3 masks and lifetime lockdowns even better,
When the health department called me to get vaxed, I told them that in off season they should allow infections so that when flu season came they don’t get hammered. Common sense. Our call ended shortly thereafter 🙂 I still got my 15-20 minutes in though!
Health Department hasn’t called me. Then again I don’t answer phone calls from numbers I don’t recognize.
That is the part I do not agree with because they are still implying there is some need for the shot.
If I remember correctly, part of herd immunity is the natural booster your immune system gets each time you are re-exposed to the virus throughout your life. Once you develop natural resistance, your body has the protective antibodies. The next time you come across the virus, even though you don’t get sick again, your body still remembers the virus and ramps-up the protective antibodies to fight it off. No artificial injection is needed.
It worked like this before:
The Salamanca Republican-Press wrote: “The German radio is a creature of the Nazi regime, and one of the Nazi principles is that lying is not only permissible but praiseworthy if it will further Nazi purposes.
Same as Islam.
And Democrats.
Lying is preferred language of all cultists.
aka “Noble Lie”
God has given us everything we need to survive this world.
Dear God is so great, He blesses us in so many ways . . .
As noted by Doctors for Covid Ethics on its website, it is currently not known whether any of the major government agencies around the globe (FDA, MHRA or EMA) has independently verified, or attempted to verify, Pfizer’s data, before proceeding with provisional/emergency authorisation of Pfizer’s mRNA therapy vaccine.
https://spectator.com.au/2021/08/most-covid-patients-at-israeli-hospital-fully-vaccinated-what-does-this-mean-for-australia/
“independently”? Pfizer is thinking about renaming the FDA as the PfDA.
Like Big Tech’s incest with Big Government to do the Regime’s censorship, this is also Corporate/ State medical incest.
It is Pfascism.
PSaki will be pleased.
Good one!
I am therefore proud to be a member of AntiPfa.
It’s not about our health.
It’s all about control.
Vaccinated people still get Covid-19. Look at Israel. So the vaccine is pretty worthless.
The unvaccinated have achieved herd immunity, it’s the vaccinated who are getting sick.
https://www.survivethenews.com/unvaccinated-people-have-already-achieved-herd-immunity-while-the-vaccinated-are-now-getting-sick-as-their-vaccines-fail/
Not to Pfizer and their sponsored congress members it isn’t.
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I need more brainpower, and Treepers have some powerful brains! No minimum commitments. Just pitch in your knowledge or give feedback when you can.
@WillRoll_01 on Telegram. Thanks.
https://telegram.me/WillRoll_01 is what I should have written. Still figuring out how to use Telegram! But I know it keeps communications private.
Texas state senator Bob Hall will be holding a Facebook Live event tomorrow at 7 pm central time. It will also be on his YouTube channel.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpzhq7hLPf3Vn9tNqRZ0_wQ
The topic will be COVID-19 hospital treatment protocols and how to save your loved one from them. The guest will be
State Senator Bob Hall is solid. I attended a couple of his meetings when he was the leader of the Vanzandt County Tea Party. His guest will be Kate Dalley, who seems a bit “out there”. Her husband was the patient in this case. It should be rather interesting.
Thanks, Sherri. I’ll check it out. Cheers!
Wow. I made a mess of that while trying to edit. Sorry.
Queensland begins building a quarantine facility at Wellcamp Airport near Toowoomba
https://twitter.com/i/events/1430693589730824196
Will they model it after the quarantine facility the Chinese have for the Ughars or the quarantine facility the Nazis had for the Jews?
What the actual eff is going on in Australia?
They don’t know what’s next?
Well, I’ll tell you “what’s next”: another variant… and a few more after that… oh, and your citizens are probably going to start blowing sh*t up at some point, so… you know… watch out for chunks of flying stuff during that one hour of outside-time…
Teenage double mutant ninja variant
CTH is on a roll.
What they really need down under is the cyberninja variant.
And I hope that one spreads far and wide to 50 states here asap.
Well if they are so scared why do they still allow air travel?
I don’t care what Australia does. They were part of 5 EYES and against President Trump
Australia- Communism is coming for you no freedom
Perfectly fine Australian citizens are living under the studded Jack Boot of a irrational, tyrannical Government, run by people who refuse to “follow the science”. Shades of early-Plandemic China on the first part… and of Fauci/Wallensky Pseudoscience Protocol on the second.
One Vaxed People, One Biden Reich, One Führer Fauchi
NHS draws up plans to vaccinate 12-year-oldsChildren would not need parental consent to get Covid jabs as trusts are told to prepare for rollout
https://archive.is/ZFJqY#selection-1073.1-1077.101
“But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.”
– Matthew 18:6
Father Mike Bergero: In this witness, the Pope [John Paul II] is being true to the Gospel message in which Jesus also gave witness to the need for the solicitous care of all beings: “I tell you, whenever you refused to help one of these least important ones, you refused to help me.” (Matthew 25:45 TEV)
That article is incredible. The world has lost it’s freaking mind… I mean, this is really spinning out of control.
The caution is linked to concerns over a rare side effect called myocarditis – a type of heart inflammation – which is more likely to be triggered by second doses, and the NHS plans for the rollout to younger children also suggest that only one Pfizer dose should be given.
So they’re just making sh*t up at this point.
What’s the dosage? I don’t know… why not just go with the two shots? Mmm… could be risky… options? Alllrighty… how ‘bout one dose, then? Hmm… one dose… one is certainly less than two, so that’s good… ok, let’s do one dose!
A vaccine that will need a booster no doubt. It isn’t that rare, even the Pentagon reported high incidence of myocarditis among their vaccinated ranks. This is so disingenuous.
this is so wicked
potentially afflicting OUR TROOPS with myocarditis?
if you don’t even have a heart for them as individuals, as precious human beings who have given of themselves to defend our nation . . .
it seems to me a deliberate effort to destroy our military readiness . . .
dear God, please deliver our nation from idiots and the people directing them!
That’s ok. They are importing experienced able body males to fill our military void as we speak . Not friends of America but now days that is a asset to those running our country into the ground.
IMO, they probably should cut the dose to half at the most and measure antibodies. The young ones are capable of mounting stronger immune responses. No need to kill them in the name of health.
I fear for my grandchildren.
This is why the FDA’s “approval” letter lists half a dozen clinical studies designed to figure out risk/benefit, dosing, etc. in children… and those studies aren’t due to be complete until 2023/2024/2025.
So NHS is just winging it based on, according to the article, some imaginary “data” that somebody has collected.
Meanwhile…
“Officials, experts warn against using COVID-19 vaccine in kids under 12”
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/569242-federal-officials-experts-say-not-to-use-covid-vaccine-in-children-under-12
While full approval of a drug generally allows for “off-label” use outside the prescribed population, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said there’s still not enough data about the safety of the vaccines for children in that age group.
“That would be a great concern that people would vaccinate children, because *** WE DON’T HAVE THE PROPER DOSE, WE DON’T HAVE THE SAFETY DATA, NOR DO WE HAVE ALL THE EFFICACY DATA, ***” acting FDA Commissioner Janet Woodcock said during a media briefing Monday.
“We need to get the information and data on uses in younger children. They are not just small adults. We’ve learned that time and time again,” Woodcock said.
etc. etc. etc.
Ms. Woodcock now needs to be fearful for the safety of her pets, and the insertion of compromising information onto her devices by the devils whom we also call The Powers That Be.
How sad that this is the first thought when reading a statement like this!
In WashDC kids 12 and older can receive any “appropriate” tax without parental consent. Not sure if that predates the fauci virus.
Everyone knows natural immunity, is vastly superior, to any vaccine. That is, everyone but democrats and the pharmaceutical companies.
Oh… but they know.
This was never about health.
If the Cominterny vax is for overseas use only, these troops are being coerced to use the same old EUA vax. Isn’t it supposedly illegal to coerce an experimental device?
Was the whole point of this bait-and-switch to give all our troops some Chinee precursor poison? After all, look at Biden and his Cabinet. They are a wholly-owned subsidiary of China, Inc..
They seem inordinately interested in jabbing the troops. When the Fake SecDef was installed, he said our own troops were the enemy. I guess this is one way to weed out patriots. In either case it weakens the force, and that is an ongoing goal of the Junta.
They’re not just interested.
The plan is to court-martial every one of the 800,000 so far not vaccinated.
I said it before on an earlier post, so I’ll say it again (with feeling):
If you get vaccinated you’re more likely to catch the bug you’re vaccinated against, so you will need booster shots every six months to keep from getting the bug worse than if you were never vaccinated in the first place.
What idiot came up with this idea of a useless vaccine? And when did this become science?
And it causes micro-clotting, impacting oxygen intake from the lungs and makes the heart (which is also damaged from the micro-clotting) work harder (sounds like a recipe for a heart attack).
So, in sum, once you start the regimen, you’ll be getting shots every six months which cause micro-clotting and if these effects are cumulative (anyone want to take bets on that?) I wonder how long before the shots kill you.
So on my next visit to my primary I’m telling her that there’s no way I’m committing suicide. I’ll probably find my cardiologist and renal doc in my corner.
I suspect more physicians than we realize have realized what is really going on between Big Pharma, Big Universities, Federal agencies including NIH, CDC, Medicare and “non-profit” Foundations. Covid has fully revealed that Politicians and MSM media are in on the collusion, too. The challenge is to find those caregivers who will assist with wellness rather than plug the patient into the Big Pharma mousetrap.
What’s the Valneva COVID-19 vaccine, the French shot that’s supposed to be ‘variant proof’?
Its NOT an mRNA vaccine at all–nmore like the old fashioned flu vacs
God finally consents to an interview about COVID
God, did you make humans to be free? To have freedom?
Think it through. You don’t MAKE freedom. Freedom exists. You can only try to take it away. And I didn’t.
So if someone says he doesn’t want the COVID vaccine—
He’s free to refuse. But he has to pay the price. When the government or a corporation clamps down and mandates the shot, it’s a tough situation.
Where do you stand on the vaccine?
I can speak with authority on the human immune system. I created it. Vaccination is supposed to be a rehearsal for the real thing, right? The antibodies and the T-cells swing into action and neutralize the protein or the piece of the virus that’s injected.
Yes? And?
Well, if the rehearsal goes well, then why did you need it in the first place? Are you catching my drift? If the rehearsal is a success, why wouldn’t the real thing be a success without the rehearsal?
I hadn’t thought of it that way.
Nobody does.
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2021/08/25/god-finally-consents-to-an-interview-about-covid/
Sweden has almost zero covid deaths in last 30 days. Herd immunity has been proven to work.
https://m.republicworld.com/world-news/europe/as-sweden-reports-nearly-zero-covid-deaths-experts-criticise-govt-laxity-over-new-variant.html
NOBODY on MSM says ANYTHING about Sweden. I was wondering how they were doing, figuring that their herd immunity would help bigly. I also wonder about their vax rates and their attitudes regarding vax
Well, we have herd immunity too.
So many people have asked how come a CoupVID-19 test done today doesn’t test for the delta variant?
IMHO it’s because the alpha is gone. That’s right. Our herd immunity killed it. Several of the Honest Doctors stated that we reached it sometime in June or even May. Some simple math on the number of people jabbed PLUS the number who likely caught the alpha and recovered shows percentages that were perfectly respectable back in the days of Honest Science.
We have the delta variant thanks to “vaccinating” into the teeth of a pandemic using a leaky “vaccine.” We don’t yet have herd immunity to it. But judging by delta’s greater contagion – my bet is, we will have it in a shorter overall period of time than the alpha took.
The problem looming is the fall/winter flu season when jabbees will likely catch both delta and the regular flu, especially if they get a third dose. I know someone here has said that the immune system is only compromised specifically for the CCPVirus and its variants. But, my question – how do we know that? Dr. Bhakdi says that the damage the spike proteins do is to the body’s “killer lymphocytes.” And from how he presented it, I didn’t get the impression that they differentiate between viruses, they just attack whatever cells they think are harmful. The jab makes them think that healthy cells are harmful.
And even with that, if we didn’t have tyrants who will push insane lockdowns, more jabs, and make all useful therapeutics illegal, we would probably get through it in reasonable shape.
Did he just say we can lower the population with new vaccines?
Read up on Paul Erlich and John Holdren. https://faculty.washington.edu/stevehar/Ehrlich.pdf
Anyone up for a rebellion?
“CONCLUSION – “This study demonstrated that natural immunity confers longer lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization caused by the Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2, compared to the BNT162b2 two-dose vaccine-induced immunity.”
If I were the suspicious type, I would suspect the FDA was very aware of this study and what they were finding prior to their approval charade with PigPharma.
The person with naturally acquired immunity was exposed to the whole virus, not just a point on the spike protein.
Yes! And that is why any variants containing any pieces of the original virus will be recognized by the immune system. Natural immunity is always best!
The World Health Organization recently altered their website to delete the concept of natural immunity, in favor of vaccines instead. I’m serious!
The WHO did something similar in 2014, when Ebola hit our shores, in the name of ‘virus justice.’ While first responders answered “fever travel incident” calls in hazmat suits, the WHO deleted reference to Ebola passed via saliva droplets.
I might change my VoteAllIncumbantsOut to “Tech-NO-Logical Thinking”
Just a thought, if someone wants it, take it.
Yes, the Vaccines will never replace our God given immune system.
The clot shot gives herd immunity against everything, when your dead your immune to most all infectious diseases.
Except if you are dead you have no immunity to stop you from voting Democrat. In fact, you have a compulsion to vote Democrat.
you get to vote Dimm/commie in perpetuity though
studying critically the saga of Spanish flu should have given sufficient evidence that even one of the worst case pandemics are flattened by natural immunity.
but you know…science.
isn’t really science.
it’s a word that globalist elites toss around and pretend no one notices.
the c19 virus was engineered and the mRNA vax was designed to give supercharge capability.
first you drop a highly transmissible respiratory virus…then you enhance it with a vax.
that’s how you do great reset
that’s how they did it.
noting:. CHINA IS NOT USING MRNA.
a point many seem to ignore.
A nephew had natural immunity, but the college he attends still demanded the vax and, sadly, he relented.
It is very hard for young adults to curtail their activities for two years in a row. These high school and college years are milestones they will never get back.
Our knee jerk compliance has basically ruined their young lives!
Everybody wants to get back to their old lives. Targeting innocent children, and punishing them with these death jabs is beyond the pale! Crimes against humanity!
So help us God!
Japan halts use of 1.63 million Moderna vaccine doses over contamination
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2021/08/26/national/science-health/moderna-vaccinations-suspended/
Japan is excellent when it comes to testing.
The U.S. banned all private testing of cattle for madcow disease. So Japan tests all the U.S. beef that they import from the U.S.
Japan is our best surveillance system.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-madcow-tests/court-bars-meatpacker-tests-for-mad-cow-idUSN2928450820080829
Does no one find this laughable what the FDA is saying here… I bold & underline the word for you all.
FDA’s review of the available safety data from 37,586 of the participants 16 years of age and older, who were followed for a median of two months after receiving the second dose, did not identify specific safety concerns that would preclude issuance of an EUA. FDA’s analysis of the available efficacy data from 36,523 participants 12 years of age and older without evidence of SARS-CoV-2 infection prior to 7 days after dose 2 confirmed the vaccine was 95% effective (95% credible interval 90.3, 97.6) in preventing COVID-19 occurring at least 7 days after the second dose (with 8 COVID-19 cases in the vaccine group compared to 162 COVID-19 cases in the placebo group). Based on these data, and review of manufacturing information regarding product quality and consistency, FDA concluded that it is reasonable to believe that Pfizer-BioNTech COVID‐19 Vaccine may be effective.
I would be more concerned with the FDA concluding a 2 month human trial was sufficient.
How come they left out the total in the first group but gave you the total in the second group (162)?
But how do these numbers come about, knowing that healthy people very rarely get life-threatening COVID-19?
In fact, among the 40,000+ test subjects of the Biontech/Pfizer study (7), just 170 COVID-19 “cases” occurred (about 0.4%). Of these, 8 occurred among the vaccinated (1x severe), whereas 162 in the unvaccinated control group. The 8 cases in the first group equal 5% of the 162 in the second – therefore, 95% protection!?
FDA conducts double blind study.
what this means is they close both eyes when they see something that doesn’t fit the narrative.
So 162 “cases” out of about 36,000 people is a reason to vax?
The implication appears to be that half of the 37 586 people were given a placebo so 162 out of 18 793 would be the percentage used to justify shutting down the free world and ushering in an obedience based mandatory medication system (ie less than 1%)
Even more concerning might be the 1063 they “lost” track of and whether they represent a randomized 50/50 split with the placebo group or if, in fact, they were all fully or partially vaccinated – ie On basis of the data provided, the 95% efficiency could actually be a reference to the 5% probability of being lost at some point between the first vaccine and 7 days after the second one.
That vax was at least two Covids ago anyway.. the vaxxed are being hospitalized now. And not just for Covid. There’s this thing about side effects..
The 7 days thing looks suspicious to me as well.
For the follow the science crowd, I have a question. If their science told them that two shots were good, why are they pushing a third shot now?
Is it because their science is telling them something they previously ignored? How could their science get something wrong so quickly? If they are wrong about needing a third shot, what other science have they ignored or missed?
Or could it be there is very little medical science involved and all of it is political science?
They are gluttonous and 3 or more shots is better than just 2. Their gluttony also puts them at higher risk of comorbidities.
Because the scientists in the finance department at Pfizer told their salesmen in Washington DC that if they didn’t sell the other 200 million doses they had already made then they would not get their bonus checks, aka “campaign donations”
Because they only went seven days out from the shot. SEVEN days! How ridiculous is that!?
The funny part is that all the records of (fake) PCR-positive tests will now further play against their ‘get Vaxxed nooooow’ narrative.
Goal posts moved too far. Opps.
A tiny bit of justice
Meanwhile , Down Under in Australia.
A dedicated regional quarantine facility will be built near Toowoomba….
But they already have one at the airport in Brisbane. ??? It the new one for domestic use ?
@AnnastaciaMP
Are they building camps near you for ‘ refugees ‘ yet ?
see something , say something
They will remove us from our homes and put the fugees there. The camps are for us – to learn to concentrate.
I am 51 and got the J&J vaccine, as did my wife who also had COVID. My 17 year old son had it, my 15 year old daughter has not. I told my son and daughter not to get the jab, their age group has virtually zero risk of complications from the natural infection.
And, I may not be a virologist, but I do remember enough high school health and biology to know that natural infection with the actual virus conveys immunity; and all a vaccine does is attempt to replicate the immune response without the symptoms of the illness. Complete nonsense to suggest that somehow a manmade vaccine is more effective than actually surviving the disease itself.
And PLENTY of people – in fact most I know that have had the shot(s) – experienced the symptoms of the illness.
Make sure your will is up to date.
Unacceptable USAFirst.
reminds me of the old joke “What is the difference between a Doctor and God?… God doesn’t think he is a doctor…these virologists think their manufactured gene therapy poison is superior to the body’s natural defenses…talk about arrogance
the same high school science class teaches the basics on critical thinking, logic, etc.
if the vaccine was superior to the naturally acquired immunity, a legitimate study would prove that.
yet…on both of the 93 day mini phase 3 trials…there was no attempt to sample a baseline (a true control of unvaxed people outside of the study…a true double blind).
and worse, the placebo group data was spiked by offering them the vaccine…
which means there is NO CHANCE of establishing how effective the vax is compared to natural acquired.
efficacy is a very simple scientific process.
the reason these drug companies spiked the ball and spoiled the study is obvious.
they could avoid peer challenges..they knew the data of a true double blind would show the vax was of no value over natural acquired immunity.
by doping the data and spoiling the study…they realized a result that they could then narrate from a purely subjective arbitrary anecdotal angle.
this isn’t science.
it’s fraud.
it’s criminal
it is the great reset.
In times of universal deceit telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.
> vaccinated persons carried a much larger amount of viral load and shed the virus at a more significant rate
Which may explain why certain people insist that everyone be vaccinated.
O.K., but in order to have “natural immunity” one must first be infected with Covid and survive. The death rate among the non-vaccinated population is 2.58%; the death rate among the vaccinated is 0.5%.
So we’re supposed to be afraid of a 97.42% survival rate, if that number is even correct. The death rate amongst the vaccinated is going to increase due to ADE and blood clotting. I’m concerned for them.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/i1i7oOnXuyOq/
The death rate is much lower than 1%, unless you are referring to obese octogenarians.
I read a report yesterday that they are calling any death that occurs inside of two weeks of being vaccinated is listed as a non- vaccinated death. So seems they are not only hiding deaths as a result if the jab, they padding the non-vaccinated death stats.
Numbers like that mean nothing. There is no way to tell how many people had it with little or no side effects.
In general, the same people affected by the virus before the vaccines are the ones affected now. age , comorbidity, etc. The shot wears off quickly and gives you some other health issues you didn’t have in the first place. It’s the people that aren’t as old and don’t have comorbidities that the shot is hurting. Look at the amount of stroke and heart attacks in younger people. The non covid death rate is up maybe 16% in the UK, why??? The shot experiment has become a nightmare and they need to get everyone to take it so their crimes are not evident. This is now a money and CYA operation.
Does anyone still wonder about being affected by the vaccinated shedding spike proteins?
I haven’t been feeling well, I related some of it on the other “hope” thread article. But I have wondered. I remember someone asking on here about it if anyone has been feeling dizzy after being around vaccinated people. Well, I have had some weird symptoms, starting with some feminine issues that seems to have been resolved of late after the major initial vaccination rates last May/June. Then the dizziness came three weeks ago and I’m still dizzy and foggy headed. I have wondered if I have spike protein in my system from the vaccinated and that’s what’s also contributing to my nerves. How in the world would some be able to tell? Can they draw a lab on this?
I was reading the other day again on America’s Frontline Doctors, they said that Pfizer’s original approval application to the FDA had talked about the possibility of spike protein shedding on “page 67”. Does anyone have this page or their original application? I’d like to read it. I can’t find it on there.
I got infected from spending time with a vaccinated women who coughed while we were in close proximity to one another. I know she was vaccinated because she told me that.
Infected with Covid? I am Covid negative but I wonder if any of the spike protein shedding per se that has given me some symptoms as if I were vaccinated.
Vaccine effectiveness against transmission of SARS-CoV-2
Data are limited to assess the effect of the vaccine against transmission of SARS-CoV-2 from individuals who are infected despite vaccination. Demonstrated high efficacy against symptomatic COVID-19 may translate to overall prevention of transmission in populations with high enough vaccine uptake, though it is possible that if efficacy against asymptomatic infection were lower than efficacy against symptomatic infection, asymptomatic cases in combination with reduced mask-wearing and social distancing could result in significant continued transmission. Additional evaluations including data from clinical trials and from vaccine use post-authorization will be needed to assess the effect of the vaccine in preventing virus shedding and transmission, in particular in individuals with asymptomatic infection.
from page 48 (of 53) of “Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee Meeting December 10, 2020 – FDA Briefing Document”
https://www.fda.gov/media/144245/download
I would take Ivermectin as it clears up long haul Covid-19 spike proteins, so why wouldn’t it clear up the shedded spikes?
Ignoring natural immunity is the most disgusting policy in this entire COVID travesty.
It’s not logical to discard or downplay the human body’s natural ability to develop antibodies, T cells etc. But by ignoring it, billions of additional dollars can be made on vaccines. It seems that the intoxication of political power and the greed factor are major drivers in most of the misguided COVID policies.
Yes. I can’t find a way to post the meme. But re Fauci:
” I know millions of you lost your jobs because I scared you with FAKE VIRUS models. But this has been a complicated psychological operation and economic collapse was part of our agenda. “
The whole covid fiasco is nothing other than an excuse for fascists to take away our freedoms. I for one refuse to comply. My liberty has immunized me against tyranny.
Note it says at the end that getting a jab adds ” protection” to natural immunity. Nope, sorry- still not gonna take it.
“If natural immunity is the preferred and more effective immunity, then WHY would anyone need a vaccine I.D.?”
Well, since those who have been vaxxed carry a higher viral load, with inherentlygreater potential to spread the virus, they SHOULD have SOME clearly identifiable way to be identified,…a vaccine paper, to show if asked,…SHOULD be required to wear masks,…ALL the time,..perhaps we should even put them in camps, to seperate them from an unvaxxed society.
Or, perhaps we need ‘passports’, or papers clearly showing we have NOT been vaxxed?
Sorry to any treepers (or others) that took the jab, but many of us saw it coming, and passed.
Seriously, will THIS finally break through, and cause a significant # of “useful idiots” to awaken to the truth?
Or, will they continue to be led down the garden path, by MSM and Big Tech, and take the boosters like good little citisens, and be outraged at us clingers, who refuse?
Time will tell,..
IMHO, Dutchman, they didn’t want to kill us all at the same time. It would have been too obvious so imho they used saline solution mixed in with the real EAU’s. Russian roulette for those vaccine takers. That’s why some are fine and others are sick and dying. At least that’s what my devious mind would do. Or some doses are more potent than others.
To finish the job the reoccurring jabs will do. Although if I were running the euthanizeation campaign the next jabs would be more effective to my desired outcome and the real fear and division of our great nation will be when the bodies start to really die in the streets and pile up. If depopulation is the desired result and they have come this far, they won’t stop here. With the hospital staffs quitting and hospitals no longer available it makes depopulation even easier.
I have relatives that I love that have taken that EAU’s and berated other members of their own family for not doing so. I know a lot of us are in the same boat and we pray for them so I’m affected by this also. But my devious mind goes back to the video of the Yugoslavian girl’s warning to the USA about how they divide and concur. You see even in our own families.
It also occures to me that they now have a damb good idea of the number of sheep versus the the opposition.
I pray GOD speed us out of this hell we have made for ourselves. Ya’ll have a blessed day and ” live the best life that you can”.
On my darker days, when our town supervisor touts an 80 percent injection rate, I think about how many less traffic jams I will contend with. And how much more toilet paper will remain on the shelves.
But then I remember the Green New Deal (no cars) and all the boarded-up businesses. And most of my friends, family and coworkers will be gone.
Is it really too late to walk this back? What would God have us do in such a world?
PSA:
Hahahahaha
Stump the Luntz…
and ‘they’ say Trump supporters are brainwashed?!?!
So, Frank, are you and Andrew vaxed?
LOL “GOP?”…he is as reliable GOP as Mittens Romney…ask Karl Rove the “architect” another narrative designer who parrots the globalist line
Well, if President Trump got injected like he did, doesn’t that make HIM a Trump supporter? He’s the one who agreed with President Trump, the UN-injected did not.
OMG The first link to “large study comparing” …
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1
Is sponsored by none other than:-
As long as you are alive, you will get vaxx’d again and again….until you’re NOT alive…
I wonder how many vaccinated people will opt out of a 3rd (booster) shot?
Most of the younger people who took the vax still have no idea of what they were getting themselves into and will not bother to get a “booster”. Hopefully they will be ok without it and their youth will save them from any serious health issues.
The study can no longer be accessed – Error: 520. It’s for our own good, comrades.
Fully expect Biden* to decree that no unvaccinated person henceforth shall receive Medicare benefits or social security payments. That will flush out the heretics. Once known, those individuals will be placed into leper colonies. Oops, I mean Internment Camps, transported via box cars. Upon arrival, each one shall be tattooed and offered reeducation. If declined, a shower shall be provided. All assets to be seized by the federal government for dispersal to the diseased illegal masses flowing through the southern border.
Meanwhile, editorial boards are pushing businesses and unions to require these experimental drugs. I suspect a large batch of the “vaccines” are getting ready to expire.
Why get the old vaccines now? They won’t work against the Delta virus or subsequent mutations. I say get off the vaccine merry-go-round now before booster shots, rely upon your herd immunities if you are a reasonably healthy person and be happy.
NO VACCINES FOR ANYONE.
what do they care if they “expire”…it does enough damage when its “active”…Big Pharma seems more concerned with the bottom line
Actually the more expired the better. Put it in the microwave for few minutes and then let it cool back down to room temperature should do the trick and completely destroying the nano-lipid particles or the Adenovirus for the J&J.
Has anyone done a study of the financial status of the pharmaceutical companies BEFORE Covid? I wonder if they were making money hand over fist, or if vaccines are a way of recouping their losses? It’s always all about the money, isn’t it?
Yes. Dr Shiva has. In a word, Affirmative.
It’s more about control and depopulation!!!
Nor just recoup losses. Mandatory, biannual flu/covid shots is a hefty, baseline revenue stream for these companies moving forward.
Think drug addicts. If they quit they want to die.
If you don’t get the newest booster, you will die.
Built in dependency.
And if you DO get the newest booster, and the one after that, and the one after that, etc. you will die.
Eventually
I watched a documentary that showed they have been losing money for many years as “drug manufacturers”….they find much more and safer profit in “vaccines” and their profits this calendar year have exploded
Yup. Safer profit with these “vaccines” especially since they are exempted from liability.
Can’t some hackers do something about those profits? Perhaps send them off to pay the national debt or something?
When we talk about the uniparty, these are the types of people we’re talking about, right? Not the rank and file but the CEOs, board members, and/or big investors?
THEY are the ones that can afford to buy governments, along with their better known Big Tech counterparts, and the ones that out in the open like Gates, Bezos, and Soros.
They own democrats and republicans alike. They are the enemy, along with the tools they employ.