Many people do not have the time or inclination to watch the 2 hour presentation by Dr. Robert Malone, the leading scientific research for global pandemics and originator of the technology behind mRNA vaccines {full video here}; so, I will attempt to encapsulate.
As noted by Dr. Malone, the commonsense therapeutic approach should be the primary focus, not vaccination, for ongoing healthcare systems as the COVID-19 variants will continue to evolve. Ultimately, the natural immunity process will be of greater overall benefit than vaccinations which will require continual boosters to deal with the ever-evolving variants (a similar approach to dealing with reoccurring and evolving flu strains). Dr. Malone provided support for his position with concurrence from the leading U.K. Vaccinologist in Great Britain, Sir Andrew Pollard (SHORT VIDEO):
https://rumble.com/embed/vihwmr/?pub=4
In essence, both Dr. Andrew Pollard (Director of the U.K. Oxford Vaccine Group) and Dr. Malone state that variants of the COVID-19 virus will continue to spread throughout the population regardless of vaccine status; and the virus will continue to evolve into more infectious but less deadly or pathogenic strains.
There simply is no way to vaccinate the population and stop the spread of COVID variants, because the vaccinated will contract and spread the virus just like the non-vaccinated. The vaccine approach should be targeted to the elderly and those most at risk.
[NOTE: – One aspect of the scientific concurrence between Dr. Malone and Dr. Pollard is to contemplate just how futile it is for the Australian government to continue their current lock-down approach. Every time a single person contracts covid they lock-down the entire community, but there is no way to ever stop the virus completely. The Australian government is trying to collect water in a sieve.]
Specific to the position of Dr. Malone – given the untested nature of the vaccine itself; no one knows the long-term side-effects; the benefit of the vaccine should be weighed against the individual’s current health status. Elderly populations with lower immune responses should be the target for vaccination; they are the most at risk. However, younger -less at risk- individuals will likely benefit more from therapeutic treatment after exposure *if* they experience any symptoms at all.
The problem is…. This commonsense approach is less favorable to the interests of the pharmaceutical industry and the healthcare systems that are controlled by the financial mechanisms inside the business of healthcare. Big Pharma would obviously make less money from a smaller target population for vaccination; ergo the therapeutic approach is a threat to the preferred approach of those who operate the business model. This is the overarching political battle.
The influence of the massive pharmaceutical corporations, inside the institutions of government controlled healthcare on a global basis, is massive. This outlook is the origin of the vaccinate push and vaccine narrative as the *only* and *best* solution. Anyone who raises a point, any point, in opposition to the mandated mass vaccine approach then becomes a target to be isolated, marginalized, ridiculed and removed.
Dr. Malone gave examples of how he is currently one of the targets and the level of institutional pressure upon everyone inside the healthcare system is massive. Malone demonstrated how there is only one allowed and approved narrative that must be maintained; the hive mindset and eco-chamber that promotes the vaccines as the only acceptable course of treatment and mitigation. He calls this the “Noble Lie.”
Dr. Malone contracted COVID personally in 2020, and battled through the virus with a long-term outcome of some lung damage, what he calls “long-COVID.” Dr. Malone had a resting oxygen capacity of 95%, post COVID recovery, substantially less than before he experienced the virus. Dr. Malone took the Moderna two-dose vaccine as an outcome of his current employment status, and in the hope it would assist with the side-effects of long-covid.
Malone and his wife need to travel as a condition of their professional obligations, and without a vaccine identification, he cannot visit countries to fulfill his contractual responsibilities and continue work. However, Dr. Malone did experience side-effects from the Moderna-x2 vaccine and successfully took a 5-day course of Ivermectin to counteract the vaccine side-effects. He reports this treatment course was successful.
In summary, both Dr. Robert Malone (USA) and Dr. Andrew Pollard (U.K.) feel that vaccinations should be prioritized to the elderly population, and various national health systems need to SHIFT and start focusing on therapeutic treatments for ongoing variants as the vaccine will only provide a limited amount of mortality mitigation.
I don’t think it matters. They aren’t giving up the money or the power or the population control.
You sound discouraged.
They will lose it all (the power, the money and the control) as the side effects to the shots become more and more apparent. The side effects are 1) infertility, 2)miscarriages, 3) birth defects, 4) vaccinated getting variants at the same rates as the unvaxxed, 5) increased death among the vaxxed as opposed to the unvaxxed, 6) other side effects-neurological, cardiopathy, blood clots, etc. This does not mean that everyone gets these side effects, it just means the incidence increases. Dr. Malone seems to suggest that the vaxxed would benefit from the FLCCC protocol of Ivermectin, Vitamin D, Vitamin C, Quercetin, Zinc, melatonin, mouthwash,etc. (Go to FLCCC site at https://covid19criticalcare.com/)
I know 5 people who died after both vaccines. Three were health: 80 year old male, 79 year old male, 65 year old male. Two had underlying conditions: 41 year old male and 95 year old female.
I know several people who had side effects ranging that required implantation of heart devices and one whose Alzheimers’ suddenly and greatly deteriorated.
The narrative presented to the masses isn’t getting any of that through.
Then its up to us to stop being passive and complacent and get the message through.
That’s something that we can do. Spread the message.
You know I am 72 and I have lived most of my life before FB (2003?), link’d, tw$tter (2006), and the like. I managed to get the word around on my own steam. We can now, too.
I am a practicing Catholic (though I don’t like this pope). The nuns used to say to us if each of you converted 5 people, the whole world would be Catholic. Probably not true but you get the point.
And it is sad to think about but it is not enough time yet for babies to have been born of vaxxed mothers. Someone on here reported they knew 6 pregnant mothers who were vaxxed; 3 had preemies 3-4 weeks early, 1 miscarried at 8 months, 1 was still pregnant and there was 1 normal live birth. If this is true, the word will get out on its own no matter what the MSM/high tech does to block it.
I know one person who is healthy and in her twenties trying to conceive after being fully vaccinated. It has been 6 months and no pregnancy- that alone doesn’t necessarily mean anything but we will wait and see. Women are reporting very heavy and irregular periods. It takes a while for effects to be apparent in this regard.
https://t.me/zelencoprotocol
Covid-19 vaccines don’t work and are unsafe. The inhibition of RNA dependent RNA polymerase by the zinc / zinc Ionophore approach will stop ALL the variants.
This has always been the correct approach. The stakeholders in this global crime have done everything to suppress this information.
This is because it undermines the fear and isolation narrative and allows people to return to normal living without codependency on global sociopaths.
It also turns out that the inhibition of RNA dependent RNA polymerase stops all the strains of influenza virus.
This means that a $10 a person treatment can destroy the entire flu shot and contact tracing business. The stakeholders will lose 250 billion a year.
This explains why the devolved pagans such as Bill Gates, etc oppose this lifesaving information.
Vladimir Zev Zelenko MD
What’s the protocol? The link did not work.
VladamirZelenkoMD.com
Sorry
VladimirZelenkomd.com
You left out the modification of DNA.
By that logic “real world effects will cause regime change”, all DemonRat cities would have flipped Red long ago.
Could be just a coincidence, but that might make sense with my beloved mother, who got the shot 5 months ago, and is suddenly now developing what looks to be early alzheimer’s.
Fear porn and power lust.
Israel just authorized boosters for 50+:
“Israel becomes first country in world to give COVID boosters to over-50s”
https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-becomes-first-country-in-world-to-offer-covid-boosters-to-over-50s/
Israel is projecting a significant C-19 surge in September. Israel also started seeing significant numbers of vaxxed ending up in hospitals and dying over the past several weeks… at least significant enough to not be expected, and get everybody’s ears pricked up both there and here at the Public Health level, and certainly in the public sphere. U.K. numbers as well around the same time… unexpected numbers with the vaxxed. Around the same time period, Israel also jumped out with: “Pfizer vax v1.0 appears to be about 40% effective at this point”. Other events and clinical data appears to have supported that… and in any event, within the same time period Pfizer got out ahead of the Feds and blurted out “OMG! WE NEED BOOSTERS, PRONTO!”… which is the tell. Meanwhile the CDC says the vaxxed carry the same viral load, transmit freely, and everyone should be wearing masks. That whole poop show happened over the course of like four weeks, give or take.
Meanwhile, yesterday…
“FDA Approves Booster COVID-19 Shots for Vulnerable, Immunocompromised People”
https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_breakingnews/fda-approves-booster-covid-19-shots-for-vulnerable-immunocompromised-people_3947003.html?utm_source=News&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-2021-08-13-1&mktids=d9353641815be55012ff363eaa2c5a19&est=%2BxDOYdCYV7Orf1Q6AdfNSaKo7aeu8jvdbpwU4WslpT6tQBFNZbfwzAqRFA%3D%3D
And also yesterday…
“Fauci Confirms It’s ‘Likely,’ ‘Inevitable’ Everyone Will Need COVID-19 Booster Shot”
https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_morningbrief/fauci-confirms-its-likely-inevitable-everyone-will-need-covid-19-booster-shot_3946006.html?utm_source=Morningbrief&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb-2021-08-13&mktids=97b5e1afca7cf25d4e89f16bd3b41de5&est=geMgfJnwZkWcFRl36o1f%2BQhAyWdWXkPLlzYe9j2HH%2Bf7IOCPzxbHlKVtBw%3D%3D
Key words: “Everyone” and “Inevitable”
Now… I think Israel is ~6 weeks ahead of the U.S. in terms of infection/variants/whatnot, and I believe has more robust tracking than the U.S., as noted by Malone in his presentation and elsewhere. One disadvantage that the U.S. has in this regard is that the CDC is effectively useless. Tits on a Bull Moose, as my late father would say.
So here’s what I think is going down…
Israel is the tip of the spear, is Red Flagging the waning vax, and is starting to roll out boosters for 50+ to start dealing with projected major problems in September. But that’s just to nudge the boosters into the public conscience… I’d expect Operation: Able Booster in the Israeli theatre to quickly ensnare the whole vaxxed population… like by the end of next week. And they’re pushing hard for 12-year olds now, IIRC. If it’s as bad as they are expecting, I expect lockdowns as well. Waning vax + dire projections + vaccine-restistent mutations + possibly ADE + etc. etc. = potentially very bad situation.
Similarly, and just a tad behind Israel… The Feds over here are starting to roll out their own pre-Fall Operation: Able Booster, and are easing it in with “oh… it’s just the high-risk, immunocompromised! But don’t worry, we’ll let you know when it’s everybody’s turn!”. I think one could reasonably interpret the last couple of news days as: this is the ease-in phase for something much more urgent on the booster front. I think The Feds will go from “limited boosters” to “everybody’s turn” very quickly… like within a matter of 2-3 weeks. That would align roughy with Israel’s dire September projections and their (IMO) inevitable large-scale booster rollout… again, inevitable based on the information from the people who actually know what they’re doing… Malone, et al.
So here’s the thing: the vaxxed will do the one booster… ‘cuz they’ve already “committed” in their minds, and the booster is the “logical and necessary” thing to do. But, based on what we know from Malone, Pollard, and many others, we’re probably entering a Vaccine Cold War phase Real Soon Now unless Public Health strategy changes… and changes drastically. Malone calls it “an arms race against the virus”.
Back to the vaxxed… if things are going the way things appear to be going at the moment… Fauci’s going to come out around… oh… early November with “Guys… you’re not gonna believe this… but… heh, funny thing… we’re gonna need another booster in the Jan/Feb timeframe. I know, I know! But that’s just what we have to do… as Patriotic Americans… everybody ‘has to do their part’ to ‘defeat this virus'”. You know the spiel.
And then I think the poop is gonna hit the fan. I think large numbers of vaxxed will start dropping out of The Program entirely. Vaxxed folks are already starting to question things based on the viral load and transmissibility “bombshells”. The 25%-ers will keep 25%-ing, of course… VAX ME UP, BABY! DADDY NEEDS A BOOSTER!!!
And… finally… closing the loop on your comment: at that point the “money, power, control” angle will start to wane faster than a 6-month old Pfizer BNT162b2 jab at a Barnstable, Mass. “pool party”.
That’s my prediction, anyway…
Vax the elderly who will then die and save of nursing home costs. This is their mindset.
Save on Social Security, Medicare costs.
Dr Malone said to keep a sharp eye on Israel. They are ahead of the vax curve. Most of their citizens are vax’d and it will provide clues to what we can expect. Its similar to last years riots; I certainly knew after a couple months Covid was not NEARLY as dangerous as our betters insisted.
After watching Malone I understand his hesitancy to get into speculation. It could mean his medical license. Here is the ETERNAL QUESSTION……..Are we being dominated by MASTERMIND or CLUSTERF***???? Both options are bad but one is worse.
Mastermind but Clusterf*** is nearly tied for the Gold.
Mastermind= maybe Bill Gates (remember his Malthusian parents, Georgia Guidestones, and all that)
Cluster= Fauci (sociopath, loves the $$$$$$)
the Israelis, I think, have made a dreadful error in hurrying their population into these experimental injections with no idea how they will play out. Much has been discovered about just how damaging they can be. Their nemesis, the Palestinians, have not been vaxing relatively. I was honestly shocked when I read how Israel was pushing this… And utterly shocked that their collective memories seem to have been wiped. I pray God will look after them. If the predictions of ADE etc come to pass, as they seem to be, they will need all His blessings.
“…the vaxxed will do the one booster…”
No. Sometimes we get a second chance. Boosters are my hill.
They’re pushing Pfizer boosters for J&J people. This, after the Feds claimed the J&J shots were “contaminated” when the Pfizer jab ingredients were accidentally co-mingled with the J&J ingredients.
Why was that co-mingling deemed “contamination” months ago, but oh, gee, now it’s okay to tack a Pfizer on to a J&J? Why does J&J not have its very own booster?
Further, why did the FDA pull funds from the production of Novovax? Could it be because Novovax is “traditional” and doesn’t have all the extra ^&% in it?
Not asking you or ranting at you. Just tossing out logical questions.
The question for me on all of them is “Are they abortion tainted in either testing or makeup.” For the three main ones the answer is yes…all three. I’m unsure about Novovax, although I seem to remember reading that yes, it is as well. But I believe it also has the toxic spike protein. The site Children of God for Life outlines what each vax uses as far as aborted fetal cell lines in testing or composition. I checked yesterday and there was no mention of Novovax yet.
in vitro studies ALL VACCINES, ALL OF THEM are tested against human tissue.. yes fetal line tissue.
understand this .. some actually contains bfetal tissue in them manufacturing process….
but ALL VACCINES that go through phase trials, namely in phase 1 and 2, fetal line tissue is used to experimentally test how the vaccine will impact Human cells…
there is an entire obfuscated terminology used in these phase trials that attempts to conceal how fetal tissue line cells are used. but it IS aborted fetus cells.. in some cases it is replicated fetal kidney cells collected originally from an abortion that occurred in the 1959’s…
this controversial source of fetal tissue will come back up again in about 6 years . that’s when the replication “clock” ends…and that cell line can no longer have value. ..
the novavax study is still ongoing…more data is being collected..thus, far more difficult to hide the reality that IT TOO is not so good at efficacy versus natural immunity.
novavax isn’t mRNA, in that it actually contains “some” key structures of the spike protein.
. however, similar to mRNA that means ANY immunity response is primed ONLY for the spike protein..
and like the mRNA, it will pressure the virus to shift spike structure, likely select another non ace2 receptor, while CONSERVING the dangerous encapsulated RNA payload envelope. thus, similar to what happens with mRNA vaccine, the human bodies jabbed will trigger gain of function effects for c19 AND will result in far less immunity cells effective against the entire c19 genomic sequence…
the novavax only “solves” one problem (it does not force the human body to act as a bioreactor).. but the others risks and predictable effects are still there. now, in yet another vaccine…
if the mRNA vaccine had been studied properly . efficacy science objectively double blind guaranteed, we “would have known this” before releasing it… novavax and many other vaccines are subject to entirely different safeguards . and thus, we can see the data clearly whereas with mRNA ALL OF THE MOST IMPORTANT SAFEGUARDS WERE CRIMINALLY IGNORED..
nova vax isn’t going to get approval. had mRNA give through the same high standards, it would not have been approved either!
Please read this:
https://covid19criticalcare.com/covid-19-protocols/
Sorry Ad Rem, I can’t help myself. Not a doctor.
Your Right,
I don’t think science matters to Democrats. It’s all about the money and the power.
This would have never happened under a Trump presidency.
Trump is for freedom to choose and against MEDIA propaganda..
The science was there from the very beginning, but our leaders decided to take the advice of the ChiComs and use lockdowns and mask mandates! In doing so, they created Perpetual Covid; where the drug companies create an endless stream of vexxines that in turn prompt a new variant to evolve!
It is apparent that the variants are developing in countries where the jabs were tested and first used; like rats on a treadmill, if you let yourself start these experimental “treatments” you may NEVER be able to stop! STOP THE MADNESS!!
They didn’t take advice from anyone.
There were paid off ie CORRUPT.
Petra,
The videos coming out of China were communist agitprop designed to scare the Western nations! Lockdowns had NEVER been used in a pandemic before but the ChiComs bragged about how well they were working, and the rest is history!
Whether stupid or complicit, our leaders went with the agitprop, and ignored ALL previous medical science!
I don’t see it as done by the ChiComs. It was the greed of BigPharma.
Both and.
Not mutually exclusive
cantcforest,
The drug companies definitely jumped on the band wagon, but they were just following the lead of Fauxi and the Chicoms who were desperate to cover up their gain of function experiments that produced the virus! This whole SNAFU was created by Fauxi and the ChiComs; the DemoKKKrats and Big Pharma are just taking advantage of the opportunity created to amass wealth and power!
Yes we need to keep pushing the benefits to Therapeutics and the peer review studies from India that show Ivermectin provided an 83% reduction in infection rate and assisted in a speedier overall recovery for many.
Now the other study that I hope America’s Frontline Doctors will push for is more autopsies of family members who lost a loved one in in the past 30-60 days AND had 1 or 2 jabs during that timeframe.
My guess is with approaching 2+ Billion people being vaccinated that these people and other might appreciate understanding what the spike proteins are doing and if there is any ADE occurring.
I keep looking for reports on any autopsies but have only seen one.
Totally agree Bogeyfree. The politicians will eventually be forced to accept that anti virals are the answer because it is becoming increasing clear the “vaccines” are useless.
“I keep looking for reports on any autopsies but have only seen one.” I am doing the same and the fact there appears to be no autopsies being done, despite all the deaths , tells you they are scared of what they know they will find.
Politicians aren’t the problem. Tyranny is, and you don’t convince Tyrants you stand them against the wall and “the shotguns sing the song.”
They don’t allow autopsies because they would show the modified DNA. It wouldn’t surprise me if they required cremation.
Here is some info on autopsies done in Germany. Unfortunately most is behind a paywall but there is enough that you can that supports the fact many are dying due to the jab.
https://trialsitenews.com/in-germany-some-groups-suspect-covid-19-vaccination-deaths-are-undercounted-but-not-the-majority/
The inoculated are cloaked spreaders, because their symptoms are tamped down by the shot, their infection is ramping faster than the original strain, and they remain symptom-free while they have a raging–and spreading–viral load.
Since inoculated are the only “free” people on the planet now, they engage comfortably with others with no worries about transmission (“I have Super-antibodies!”), so the bystanders get larger doses of infection.
Bystanders with a higher starting infection viral load are going to be behind the curve in fighting it off. Therefore, we should see more of every demographic, inoculated and non-, showing up in serious condition…
BECAUSE OF THE VACCINATED.
This is why everyone needs an early treatment “kit” on hand, including ivermectin, zinc, D3, C, etc.
Anyone provides that?
(Hint) Or must we get a covid test, let it pop a fake post ( use their trick against them) to.get the kit?
go to FLCCC Alliance online, read protocols, sign up attend weekly zoom sessions, they have lists of doctors to prescribe and pharmacies. That’s how we got our Ivermectin. (And forget the Covid test, my regular internist months ago told me not to take it unless symptomatic.)
https://covid19criticalcare.com/
Don’t forget that D3 needs the co-factor of K2. (Don’t buy D3 unless it comes with K2)
I’ll give an example…3 of my 4 kids took the jabs, I warned them. Two here in VA, smart kids, both retired military, IT employed big tech. Both of them, and their families, NEVER left the house in a year and a half, ever, covid freaks beyond imaginations ( I traveled the country 7 times by plane and by car, no fear). They both get the jabs in May and June and in the last two weeks, one goes to NC to a comic/super hero convention where William Shatner was(100 bucks for an autographed pic…love ya Capt. KIRK, but, ah, no. Haha) and then went to a concert in DC last weekend. The other, my son, took a 10 day road trip to Houston for an SIM football thing, whatever that is…stopping all over the place in between. These people never left their homes and now roam freely. I, on the other hand, am scared to death now to get out and travel because of what the jab is doing to their bodies and increasing my chance of getting covid, whichever variant I would run into. I have severe COPD and a heart condition and was safe before…Damn, that just ain’t right!!!!!!
I will add, me saying I was safe before…for about a year and a half before covid hit my great granddaughter, love her to death, kept giving me the rhinovirus, which IS a Corona virus. Everytime she gave it to me, four times, I had to go to the ER and a hospital stay with a COPD exacerbation. There are a few articles out there stating that the common cold virus, a Corona virus, will give you immunity against covid, which is a Corona virus( is that why kids aren’t affected by covid?? Probably, but the cdc will deny it forever). So now, I may not be protected against the new variants. That is what I meant by that.
That’s why you need to get on a daily, preventative natural regimen. (Not selling, but one example is “Seasonal Immune Support” pak by Youngevity or another company). Vitamin C, D3/K2 (liquid drops best), Zinc, Quercetin, etc. Or start seeing a reputable Osteopath.
The ‘authorities’ never meant to ‘cure’ via immunity the transmission/infection/infectiousness of this virus. The goal was to set the stage for an ‘subscription immune system model’. Moderna revealed this in a September 2016 article.
https://www.statnews.com/2016/09/13/moderna-therapeutics-biotech-mrna/
The tip off, from the above article:
‘From the start, Moderna heralded its ability to produce proteins within cells, which could open up a world of therapeutic targets unreachable by conventional drugs. The most revolutionary treatments, which could challenge the multibillion-dollar market for protein therapy, would involve repeated doses of mRNA over many years, so a patient’s body continued to produce proteins to keep disease at bay.’
Keep disease at bay by killing them.
Wow! Out of their own mouths. From this it would seem the objective doesn’t seem to be killing people (though that is inevitable by-product) but just to ensure they remain weak and sickly and in need of the treatments.
I always thought that. And we don’t know what the future illnesses may be, but they sure as hell know. Blood clots will mean people will be on blood thinners for the rest of their lives. $45.00 for a 30 month supply. What else is Big Pharma hoping people who are vaccinated will get so they can supply the cure.
Weak and dependent…. Just the way TPTB like their serfs!!!
Similar to some of the drugs currently on our streets.
Tower of Babel
Tower of bable was built by nimrod. He was a Nephilim because his DNA was corrupted. Not 100% human as God designed us. The “mighty men or giants” in the bible were the offspring of the fallen angles and human women. Nimrod also built Babylon. He was the great grandson of Noah.
The bible says that Noah and his family were the only “pure” people left on earth. That’s why he brought the flood, to get rid of all the corrupted DNA and start over.
The many secret occult societies are trying to discover Nimrod’s satanic secrets. They have discovered it with mRNA.
I would like to hear more about your beliefs. Could you share sites or blogs that talk about this? Thank you for sharing.
But what about the Microscopic blood clots that catch onto the spike proteins that are now embedded on the vaccinated’s vein wall….that will not disapate with multiple booster shots. They’re all F’ed. No way around that. Dr.Malone has videos online pertaining to that also. There are many videos from prominent doctors and scientists, you just have to look.
Oops………
Who knows, they may have an experimental bio-therapeutic for that in the works. You know, maybe a monthly dose……for as long as you’re alive. Part of the ‘subscription’.
How much blood money is enough, big pharma? Or is it that you are also the useful idiots for a darker NWO great reset, one for which you expect a seat at the elitist totalitarian table when the dust finally settles atop the mass graves of millions worldwide? Anything for money, right?
Once you understand that the hole they are trying to fill with their greed is the absense of God in their lives you will also understand that even the entire universe would not be enough to satisfy the void.
You’re too nice Sundance, I normally say that most people can’t read through an entire comic book especially knowing that if one takes all the action bubbles and wrote them down, it wouldn’t fill up a single sheet of paper.
Thank you though for posting, I’ll watch cause I like to be informed.
Big Pharma has been big Rot for decades. They are the tool used to control lives. I wish more people researched American medical history and tell me why all our homeopathic hospitals and universities were dismantled by
corrupt corporations Homeopathic physicians chased and cured Spanish flu. It’s recorded history. Big Pharma has done everything possible to remove homeopathic medicine including screw with the enormous body of research that is so promising. At least the Cubans are using it for covid. They had an amazing experience with homeopathic medicine during a leptrocosi epidemic. They know.
Yes, James Corbett’s documentary “Rockefeller Medicine” talks about the takeover of medicine by the money power and how they shut down alternative medicine, like homeopathy, that actually helped and cured people without side effects.
There is no money in preventative care via natural medicine. Our Big Pharma-driven medicine is reactionary care. Big $$$ Not to knock all doctors, but many are trained to be pill-pushers (hear your symptoms, run to the Pharma manual/guide matching drugs to symptoms, and then writing a prescription.)
Adm- Sundance
The 2 hour presentation by Dr. Robert Malone, has the wrong link :[)
Here is the right link
https://rumble.com/vl0zpf-dr.-robert-malone-the-liberty-forum-8-10-2021.html
Don’t forget this one
Link to Video
It’s not about the disease, it’s all about the vaccine.
Case in point…
“ Vaccinated man dies of Covid – doctors say it could have been worse had he not been vaccinated.”
https://www.newsbreak.com/news/2337858790890/fully-vaccinated-man-dies-of-covid-19-daughter-says-he-was-cautious
LOL! I thought that was from The Babylon Bee, but apparently it’s real.
How can one argue with that mindset? It is beyond reason, rational logic. The only thing that makes sense is to go long Moderna/Pfizer………
How would any of the Doctors know? Have any of them experienced death? On a scale of 1-10, 10 being the “worse” what was his score being vaccinated versus unvaccinated? Good grief are these Doctors or Politicians?
Right? Alex, I’ll take suffering but still alive for $500.
“Initially, she thought her father was experiencing a flare-up of congestive heart failure or a recurring infection. In addition to heart problems, Elizondo had diabetes, making him a greater risk of developing severe COVID-19.
“her father would have suffered more if he had not been vaccinated.”
Sir Andrew Pollard ;
“Elderly populations with lower immune responses should be the target for vaccination; they are the most at risk.
However, younger -less at risk- individuals will likely benefit more from therapeutic treatment after exposure *if* they experience any symptoms at all.”
Sounds like common sense to me.
Cray-cray.
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What is to prevent your employer from telling you to “stuff it,” when presented with this document? There is no enforcement mechanism here. You can’t force your employer to signify his acceptance or rejection of this document with a signature. Looks to me like a waste of time and futile hope. Enlighten me.
When presenting a document and having a condition to accept, think of it like a contract because that is what this is, If you go to your company and say…
“Hey, I’m willing if you are willing so either accept or reject or… refuse to sign So until you do, I’ll continue working. This co-worker or whomever is, is here to be an un-biased witness, in this transaction, Its not a threat but if you fire me, than I can now use this witnesses testimony in court, explaining to the Judge that… Your Honor, I’m not against vaccines and I love my job so I offered a compromise in order to keep my job. They refused to even acknowledge this Document so this witness is here to testify on what actions took place. Is that wrong that I offered alternatives being that even the “Fact sheets” alone plainly show that they don’t know how long this Vaccine will last, there are other “possible side effects” that they too are unaware of and so… without offering me an alternative, they showed they are prejudiced anD discriminatory to any thing else as I properly laid out.”
“This in my opinion is a “Wrongful Termination” as I never refused the Vaccine, just like any contract as your Honor is well aware, is the proper way to do things before one makes even the simplest forms of decision making and in this case, this was not a simple decision to make.”
VoteAllIncumbantsOut, Thank you for your effort to give people something to have during this insane vaccine mandate requirements.
Place those who want to jab everyone on notice.
Correct my memory for me if necessary.
Last year the big pharma interests got together for a symposium and openly stated that although they didn’t make the billions of dollars they customarily enjoy with the vaccines, they would instead make mega billions from booster vaccines.
All this before any publicly perceived need for booster jabs.
Hmmm?
99.997 % for <18 yrs old and 99.95% survivability for the non-elderly(<70) and the no co-morbidity population.
There is no threat commensurate to the risk of the jab!
Having COVID-19 is NOT even close to a death sentence.
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And yet they keep pushing it on everybody, young, old it doesn’t matter.
Why?
Not about vaccinations, all about control. Added bonus , the cash. Follow the money.
It’s the Reich thing to do.
They want to cut the population down to a sustainable level and milk the infected as long as possible.
Survivors will be probably have autoimmune deficiencies. Simple germs will have major complications (Lethal) for the human race. Just My Humble Opinion.
Face it: “Unsafe and Ineffective!”
Nothing more need be said – Mother Nature has spoken!
Indeed, even wrose, one is more likely to get the virus post vacx!
Two world renowned noted experts, state that allowing the natural immunity process is the best way to combat the variants. Both provide reasons why that is better than vaccination, and which groups should be the ones vaccinated. The problem at least in this country, is that the variants are being used politically by this administration. Power, control and a lot of money, supersedes what two noted experts recommend.
Mainz, Germany September 4, 2019.
The Bill and Melinda gates Foundation investment of $55 million in BioNTec aka, Pfizer.
PDF here, follow the Money
https://investors.biontech.de/static-files/986b445a-1fde-4be0-b23d-57ca27be9d35
When all you have is a hammer everything looks like a nail.
Still going by the assumption this was engineered as a weapon. Most weapons have a shelf life, blast radius, killing zone/limits, if you will. They are never designed to keep on killing forever. What good is it if China kills the whole world? Who will buy their cheap CR*P? It is no fun for them if there is no people to intimidate, control, and take what they can take.
There is a limit to this weapon, and it will peter out.
Now, the bad nes is they can just release another Bug if needed since there was no push back from this one.
I think this answers the questions.
https://usawatchdog.com/biden-desperate-as-vax-narrative-falls-apart-clif-high/
Indeed. It’s falling apart faster than they can lie.Code Blue!
I am beyond frustrated that our healthcare systems won’t provide proven effective therapeutics. They are not in the business of healing, but of that of making money upon our illness and death. The healthcare providers have lost the public trust, except for those who will use the right medications instead of searching for that new and elusive drug or vaccine that hasn’t been thoroughly trialed and a proven safety record.
Someone posted this yesterday, this woman had to guide the doctors into how to treat her husband. I’d like to find where she got the protocol.
https://rumble.com/vktdpt-our-first-hand-icu-story-what-is-actually-killing-people-in-the-hospital.html
Also, on the bottom right of the flccc.net front page, a video, I don’t know how to bring it up on its own, if someone can. But it is as frustrating to hear as reading that Mountain Home Magazine article, The Drug that Cracked Covid.
It’s under this headline, on the right side of the page:
Reporter Reveals How She Was Forced to Censor Dr. Joseph Varon
https://covid19criticalcare.com/
By the way, I believe I heard the flccc doctors’s podcast that ivermectin is banned in the UK and Australia and can’t even import it. Can you believe it? It was someone’s question asking what else can they do?
We expect Politicians to lie, but when our medical industry does it, that to me is beyond reproach.
Doctor said no HCQ, IVM ever. FDA doesn’t approve it for virus, so no dice.
How do you like that?
Your Dr. is a liar. Get a different Dr. Here’s a list of Dr.’s who will write a prescription for Ivermectin. I have been taking it for months now.
https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/
My doctor said no, too,
I got my script also through the Frontline doctors. Filled at Giant Eagle, but the price has now shot up. Kroger’s is still about 116 for 100 pills.
Tell other to:
Put PostIts up in hospitals that say:
” You see vaccinated people coming in with Covid, speak up please, we will figure this out if you buy us time”
Psychological operation vs. psychological operation.
This will work
Deplorable-level common sense agrees. Could be close to seven decades of experience and surviving a number of pandemics with next to zero rancor, IDK.
IMO, make a decision and stick with it. I’m in the ‘elderly’ realm but have enjoyed excellent health, zero doctors other than a few checkups over the decades, and survived all kinds of stuff, including working in heavy industry around toxins every day.
I had the virus last spring (2020) and it was less than a normal flu or cold. Oxygen never below 97%, fever never over 100, typical aches and pains, very little coughing, no sinus congestion, loss of taste and smell. No medications, no supplements, no masks, just a couple weeks of self-isolation with normal cold/flu self-care and life went on.
The psyops and government lockdowns and attacks on my business, OTOH, far more debilitating. That left me with a steely eyed stare with a focus on Communists. No peace. They gotta go one way or another. The doctors in the article can’t help with that part. God be with them in their fight.
@AlexBerenson
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ADE question for subject matter experts: if, theoretically, vaccine-generated antibodies turn out to be enhancing and not neutralizing to a new viral variant, does the risk for ADE vanish over time as they disappear?
Or are the “bad” antibodies conserved in B-cells forever?
Keep pointing out that Socratic debate is outlawed. One agreement allowed.
Antedote in America. We are genetically immune to full conformity.
What is the recovery mechanism for ADE?
This guy is just barely……on our team…..a tiny bit…and he blows it big time with his last sentence.
This is NOT about science. This IS about federal and state legislators stepping outside legal authority and destroying small businesses. In doing so governors with state legislators have murdered elderly, confiscated work, used third party private companies to silenced our voices and stole our election.
Being elected doesn’t give cover to crimes. These people MUST be arrested, trialed and serve prison sentences for what they’ve done.
I would recommend this video for everyone:
https://odysee.com/@FwapUK:1/A-manufactured-illusion.-Dr-David-Martin-with-Reiner-Fuellmich-9_7_21_-720p:5
I am not aware of whether it has been referenced in the past, if so, my apologies. If not, it is explosive in nature. In the interview, a physician from Germany, Dr. Reiner Fuellmich, interviews David Martin Ph.D., founder, CEO and Chairman of M*CAM International, a company that monitors the innovation that is happening around the world and specifically to monitor the economics of that innovation to the degree to which financial interests are being served, and corporate interests are being dislocated; M•CAM’s business is innovation and its finance. That said, he knows the vaccine industry inside out, the players, the patents, the timeline, all of it. The interviewer is German and a few times translates for his audience, so do not be put off by that, it is short. There is speed control in the settings that will help with the length of the video. It is on Odysee because you will not find it on utube. You will learn all about Fauci,the CDC, NIAID, big pharma, and more, all the lies and all the deceit. It is all criminal. If this were the mafia etc, they would all be arrested immediately for what has transpired. In fact the mafia are small potatoes vs the complete moral disregard these entities and people display. I urgently say to all readers, take a look, and your mind will explode at the magnitude of the crimes.
I have watched another longer discussion between these two men posted on July 11 on odysee. I was riveted and utterly shocked that a detailed outline of the patents of these wretched big Pharma concoctions could expose so much evil and corruption. Both men were a minefield of information… all exposing the machinations of purely wicked pharmaceutical companies and the soulless black hearted Bill Gates.
Yes, a manufactured illusion.
“both Dr. Robert Malone (USA) and Dr. Andrew Pollard (U.K.) feel that vaccinations should be prioritized to the elderly population” well I’m elderly and no way I’m getting a clot shot or myocarditis/pericarditis from one of these mRna poisonous shots either one would probably kill me! I already have heart disease and had one blood clot! Not looking to add to them! No thanks! If half the money spent on these experimental shots had been spent on testing existing therapeutics and developing new therapeutics we wouldn’t be in this tyranny of the vaccine!
I don’t think the elderly should be getting the vax since they often have other health conditions that would fall under the term “co-morbidities.” Leave the elderly alone!
Stand your ground. Best wishes!
!!!!AMEN BROTHER!!!!!
But the tyranny of the vaccine is what this whole operation was designed for.
No such thing as vaccine resistant.
Vaccine evasive, yes.
Vaccine attacting protein parked in every cell’s port.
Crime.
“I Am Legend”, the movie. Life imitates art.
Yes, I thought about that one. I think we are headed for a “Children of Men” world.
Admin…
I have two emails from you having already “Approved” my post regarding fact based sources included in the docs themselves, nothing has changed so can you please explain why now it was removed when this comment is no different than the article above and exactly the same Docs as the previous approvals given?
knowledge is power, especially to those who might Need it. Two of the sources are directly from Moderna and Pfizer through the FDA.
This is one of the two…
Hi VoteAllIncumbantsOut,
your comment was approved.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/08/12/breaking-supreme-court-justice-amy-coney-barrett-approves-forced-covid-vaccinations-for-indiana-college-students/comment-page-2/#comment-7972422
I don’t know but I tried to give TreeClimber yesterday a bunch of links to legal aspects of the vaccine for her husband’s employement and it got rejected. Maybe too many links? Also, my link to your comment such as what you displayed below was removed, that was one of those that had the legal documents to the employer re: the vaccine.
Kaco….if your comment contains more than 4 links, it will automatically get held. Please, just repost your comment in 2 or more segments. 😉
Okay, thanks for the clarification, Ad Rem!
It’s been posted above, they reposted it.
when I received the document, it was very large so it was broken down into 8 pages. I’m sorry, PDF’s are not my forte, researching factual items is a favorite pastime for me. I don’t like sharing anything I cannot prove myself.
law, fact sheets, bills from governments, etc. yes, I’ve become a bit of a bore but a walking fact based encyclopedia.
My link was a link to your comment a couple nights ago with those same documents.
I have copied and pasted your 8 page as well as saved as a PDF. Appreciate you posting it, you never know if it will come in handy.
Maybe try clicking each link , copy and paste them into a word document then email the entire word document.
I know that’s not real helpful, but if your trying to save a job, it’s worth it, I know, through a friend.
Hi Vote…. I found your comment, and it appears to have been held up because it contained EIGHT links. Our limit is set for 4 links per post….so as to prevent comments containing spam from infiltrating the site. (Many links are a feature of spam messages.)
If you could break that down into TWO different posts, you would have no problem in the future.
I posted the comment for you.
Thank you so much AD REM ?
I know I can get a little wordy sometimes and I do try to keep to the guidelines but, I’m am human.
No problem! Sorry about the inconvenience of it all…..
Thanks for the hard work.
I had seen your posts before but clue challenged me hadn’t tumbled to the fact you were admin till now! ?
I think gene therapy is contraindicated for the elderly and immune compromised. I am both. Therapeutics are far more effective. You can’t have the approach of a one size fits all with a population that has various “pre-conditions” such as cancer, heart disease, etc.
Call it what it is: gene therapy.
If you are a chicken in my chicken factory then 1 outcome is for you.
Will you/me/us wake up humans from being chickenated.
Do they do gene therapy for cancer? IDK, I’ve heard friends describe their cancer regimes and some of that stuff sounds like gene therapy to me. We’re all up there in years and I lost three in the last year to cancer and none to Covid AFAIK. The most recent was the strangest, healthy, normal to dead in about 4 months. I guess each day is a gift. Seems like once they start the doctor thing it all went downhill from there, at least in recent times since Covid.
The exigent issue IMO isn’t what the vaccine is, rather the whole regime of social, political, legal and economic pressure all over one virus and one supposed vaccine. If they hit the kids with a mandate, watch the fur fly then. By ‘kids’ I mean minors. IDK, haven’t kept up, maybe they’re already doing it.
In the old days, we kids got sick and the vast majority had a week or two of hell, then got better, even during ‘pandemics’. Sure some died, none I ever knew but no doubt some did. The ‘herd’ moved on, year after year, decade after decade. Until Covid.
President Xi: “‘The Xi Variant’? What the hell is that, Joe?”
Resident Biden: “I know, I know! It’s a Greek letter, sir. Sorry, Boss!”
President Xi: “It’s my NAME. What were you thinking?”
Resident Biden: “Well, in fairness, they’re all Xi variants, sir.”
President Xi: “Oh, hell no. We built this vaccine together and then we built the virus together. You’re not going to pin it on me. Am I clear?”
Resident Biden: “Yes, sir.”
President Xi: “Yes. sir-what?”
Resident Biden: “Yes, sir, my lord and master Winnie the President Xi, sir.”
President Xi: “That’s better, Joe. Now run along. Oh, and Joe–be out of Afghanistan by the end of the month.”
Resident Biden: “Yes, sir.”
President Xi: “And stay away from kids.”
Resident Biden: “I can’t, sir.”
President Xi: “I know.”
Rest in the Vine: When the Lyin’ lay down with the Lambda: Suggested Names for All the New,
Improved BidenBooster(tm) Brand Variants Scheduled for Our Fall Vaccine Sales Campaign!
And a fan comes out of the stands and shoots everybody on the field, in the bullpen, in the dugouts, in the locker rooms and back in the club house.
Problem solved.
As the “vaccines” work less and less, the high the Royal State Aristocracy gets if they can still force the peasant class to get them gets higher and higher.
The jabs were supposed and designed to stop the spread and end this pandemic. They were promoted as such.
Well it didn’t
Now they want to pretend this jab is some kind of antibiotic like drug, that is supposed to help treat and cure wuhan virus.
Nothing they have told you has been accurate.
These lockdowns have precedent. I remember as a child, whenever I got sick, Mom always put me in bed and told me I had to stay in my room.
Rally 09/05/2021
I watched Doc Malone’s entire presentation. It is simply the best thing you can do to learn about Covid and our situation as a country and world. Doc Malone eluded to this Gent a couple times and it gave me hope. We are dealing with lunacy/stupidity/idiocy in most regards. That is extremely troubling when we are talking about our livelihood but even worse is malevolent actors. Malone would not really get into that and I understand.
Here are some notes that I took from Malone’s presentation. I posted this at a Gab profile who visits this site. Again if you have the time I urge everyone to listen to it.
listened to the entire presentation including the Q&A. I would say Dr Malone is the most reasonable man in regards to covid and the vaccines. He actually took Moderna 2x and explains why as he has long Covid and thought it might help. He also travels outside the country frequently. That being said you can tell he is absolutely concerned about ADE. He said best to pay attention to the studies in Israel. They are quite a bit ahead of us in vaccinations and rates. Pfizer decided to start their because the Israelis are very compliant and usually listen to their government.
I know this is long but cannot recommend it enough. The real concern for all involved seems to be the prospect of ADE. The vaccines appear to be waning as well and the Epoch Times released a statement from Fauci today that boosters would be inevitable for all vax’d. Malone doesn’t speculate into conspiracy but he knows why we do. The government’s authoritarian posture throughout this whole debacle puts people in their respective foxholes. The variants are real and quite contagious but not overly pathologic. Lambda will be next and the vax’d are variant factories.
This is not going to end unless we either get smarter. And I am still not convinced that is really the goal of TPTB. As Malone says its no wonder people go into their conspiratorial bunkers when the state behaves in such an authoritarian manner.
Better vaccines push the virus to evolve. Eventually, the virus becomes to smart for the vaccines. This is the bottom line.
Indeed, and so the endless calls for ever more vacx to fatten the corporate bottom line.
Until the vacx, any vacx, will not cure the infection, followed of course by dead or a natural selection process yet to be identified.
Advising to use the vaccines with a variety of proven side effects for the elderly population seems an odd recommendation? Wouldn’t side effects such as Dr. Malone experienced kill senior citizens? Wouldn’t treating the virus properly be more sensible?
Indeed. Seems he has to offer big Phram some revenue stream to be heard at all. The vaccs are trash, no one should be taking them.
Agree – definitely more sensible.
“Specific to the position of Dr. Malone – given the untested nature of the vaccine itself;
no one knows the long-term side-effects;
the benefit of the vaccine should be weighed against the individual’s current health status.
Elderly populations with lower immune responses should be the target for vaccination;”
(The symptoms can be less severe after a vaccination or maybe not) .
Pollard would never Force anyone to take it.
Continued use of the vaccines may make the pharmaceutical company’s money, but it can only end one way. Eventually, the human race will be confronted with a virus it can not deal with using the current technology of vaccinations. Even giving the vaccines to the old and sick is dangerous, because you are still teaching the virus.
The CDC, FDA, The Death Gnome (Fauci) & the Biden Regime will NEVER admit their mistake(s). They will continue the current futile and deadly (for probably millions of Americans at this point) path until …… well, no telling what ‘the end’ will be. The death of the country appears to be the end goal.
Dr. Dan Stocks (this is the doc who gave the fantastic 6 minute presentation to a school board – video went viral) was interviewed by Daniel Horowitz of The Conservative Review Podcast. This is excellent – he does not believe the issue with the upswing in cases is Delta … he thinks it is ADE and he gives a very thorough/understandable explanation of what we are facing. Also, he believes vaccinations should be STOPPED. NOW. To listen to the interview, go to the link for the podcast & look for Ep 936 | Mass Vaccination Is Causing Us to Chase Our Tail | Guest: Dr. Dan Stocks
https://www.theblaze.com/podcasts/daniel-horowitz-podcast
These may not be all the possible side effects of the Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine. Serious and unexpected side effects may occur. The Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine is still being studied in clinical trials.
And…
WHAT ARE THE BENEFITS OF THE MODERNA COVID-19 VACCINE?
In an ongoing clinical trial, the Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine has been shown to prevent COVID-19 following 2 doses given 1 month apart. The duration of protection against COVID-19 is currently unknown.
https://www.fda.gov/media/144638/download
Moderna fact sheet revised June 2021
Pfizer fact sheet revised June 2021
https://www.fda.gov/media/144414/download
The only” benny ” it has is it fattens wallets and knocks off humans.
Thank you Sundance. I take this quite personally as my family members have taken the vax. People have to realize that if a wild virus comes through this fall, many of the vaxed could be vulnerable to it as their immune systems are compromised and they don’t know how long this gene therapy remains in your body.. . This includes the young who are vaxxed. Take Vitamin D, Quercetin, and get out in the sun.
Educate yourself
Very effective, simple and common sense answer to the virus. Maybe we could get Dr. Malone to take Fauci’s place. If we had a real media they would be interviewing him in prime time or questioning Fauci regarding Dr. Malone’s analysis.
Unfortunately it is all about power,control of the people, division of the people and money. Money for the drug companies for never ending boosters and a portion of their money will come back in donations to the the dems that push the propaganda of fear and desperation. And the beat goes on . . .and on.
I notice “laboratory tests” were mentioned twice. Have the lab teats been greatly improved? If not, given the tests now being administered were never intended for CV, of what use are they.
“ The Australian government is trying to collect water in a sieve.”
No, that’s not what they’re trying to do. You have to see beyond the surface. It’s about control. Absolute control.
Correct
Any Corporation/Company/Organization/Public Entity
Best Take Council from Dr. Malone, he is Not a Stand Up Comedian.
This reminds me of when my grandkids were small. Their doctor told my daughter not to give them a lot of medicine for colds and such and not to use anti bacterial products as they need to build up an immune system. I thought that was about the smartest doctor I’d ever heard. We need to do the same thing. Build up our body systems to survive, not become dependent on drugs.
Hey you might want to check this out…
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-the-white-house-is-reportedly-wary-of-a-vaccine-mandate-for-interstate-travel/ar-AANi9ZM
They want to mandate vaccine passports for interstate travel. So far they say they’re not considering it, but you know they totally are.
The Taliban have got this issue worked out !!!
https://insiderpaper.com/taliban-banned-covid-vaccine-in-paktia-afghanistan/
Odd but predictable why the government will pay for vaccines & boosters but not for blood test to determine if one has immunity thru antibodies of havin a symptomatic COVID virus.
Read the other day where CDC has changed their definition of herd immunity to only be attainable from vaccines. Took out the part about natural immunity from having been infected but survived. That is enough to show their motives.
In my state I would have to drive four hours to get the test which neither the government nor insurance would pay.
Natural immunity also protects against the variants. We need a CDC that is apolitical and not in bed with big pharma.
The CDC takes ‘justifying their existence’ to extremes, even for a government entity.
Anticipating the “vaccine” rollout, the WHO changed that definition last November.
We don’t need The CDC at all. They cannot find enough new diseases to justify their existence so they fool around trying to make new ones. Big pharma can’t wait to find a new way to kill us all.
While the finacial viewpoint of the “Required Clot Shot” crowd is pretty obvious, after all they’re making billions. Even the financial angle seems weak compared with the communist style control the pathetic leftist govenors are using just because they can. Why not? They were able to steal elections with them
The CDC is a private corporation just like the federal reserve is not federal. The interests of the CDC are the interests of big pharma, $$$$. The CDC is corrupt and compromised and we should not listen to a word they say, IMHO. How many of the so called doctors in the CDC have actually treated covid patients? Dr. Zelenko, who has been directly involved in the treatment of approximately 6000 covid patients (including Trump, Giuliani, Bolsonaro) calls the vaccine a “death shot”. Dr. Zelenko uses HCQ, Ivermectin, and other common cheap drugs to treat covid with great success. This approach is in direct conflict with the CDC and big pharma, because there is no money in it. If I recall correctly there was an article posted to this site that admitted Trump was treated with Ivermectin.
Dr Zelenko says he treated Rudy Giuliani and world leaders like Netanyahu and President Trump.
joebkonobi, with all due respect to “We need a CDC that is apolitical and not in bed with big pharma.” I am reminded of my Pops always saying, “And if a frog had wings, he wouldn’t bump his azz when he hops”!
Say what you want about Rand Paul but hes right about this…they cant arrest all of us just refuse to abide by these Fauci/cdc/obiden/big pharma edicts. These uniparty bastards are planning to keep doing this. All it takes is for a population to say NO!
what is so alarming: hearing average everyday neighbors repeating the fiction that we will only reach herd immunity when everyone is vaccinated!
oh it’s even worse.
let me summarize
a. the CDC/NIH refused to perform a baseline serology before any vaccines were jabbed…that would have been scientifically objective…how well did those that acquired good antigen results fair compared to vaccines! refused to do that! so there is NO MEANS to scientifically measure the most important factors in a pandemic!
b. the drug makers, as CTH has reported, “lost” control group protocol in the 93 day mini phase 3 studies…not just lost the data, but spiked the ball and against every single principle of scientific method, garbaged the data by jabbing the control!!! that’s not just a mistake… it’s effing criminal!
c. CDC/NIH refuses to recognize antigen positive tests from natural immunity as a perfectly acceptable health policy factor…the entire health policy, restrictions, mandates, travel and social mitigation strategies have ignored the value of knowing the antigen status.
spoiler:the vaccine does not work ..natural immunity does work…we already know this by examining CDC own collected data…in late Dec 2020 to June 2021, cases, severity, hospital, and death data crashed…this could not have been attributed to vaccines…not enough jabs or time for that to happen. .so we KNOW this drop was attributed to wide scale herd immunity…
why has cases gone up since then?
the vaccine has significantly pressured the virus to mutate …so now there are at least 7 new mutations of significance that are quite different than c19 parents…all due to the pressure of the vaccine.
how do we know this.
the changes have occured ONLY in the spike protein structure…the vaccine pressures ONLY the spike protein to shift!!!
the encapsulated payload structure and RNA weapon is virtually unchanged with trivial mutations!
the real danger will happen when we begin jabbing children…it’s not difficult to imagine how this will increase the risk by magnitudes of order how the vaccine will be pressured to select for other cells beyond ACE2.
you see, children so not have the same immune response …so their bodies, becoming bioreactors for the mRNA vaccine to produce spikes will result in all manner of illness and also present the virus with a completely NEW pressure yet again to select into something very harmful.
take heed.
the reckoning is coming
Regitiger, great brief. I hope everyone reading this takes a copy, uses it and passes it on. Yes “the reckoning is coming.”
Today I read these questions posted by a friend (a healthcare professional, by the way) on social media right after watching the entire Dr. Malone video (so glad I watched to the very end! Excellent information!) :
“Trying to understand when exactly- asking someone to take a vaccine that is going to help keep them healthy and potentially save their and other people’s lives became a violation of their rights? And if so, what right are we exactly protecting? The right to catch COVID, the right to die, the right to unfounded or irrational fears, the right to deny reality, the right to misunderstand, the right to get other people sick, the right to make the pandemic drag on?
Or is it to exert a rather adolescent attitude and right to reject being told what to do because you don’t like the government or your doctors and feel they are out to get you?
Or is it just the right of refusal and if so, under the circumstances, is the exercise of that right ethical? Willingness to self examine and some honest dialogue can help resolve a lot of this.”
I know it is pointless to respond, but I have penned several responses in my head to this. My thoughts are certainly fortified by the Constitution classes I am taking online offered by Hillsdale College ( highly, highly recommend anything put out by Hillsdale, one of the few colleges in our country refusing ANY government $$). I think we all need to formulate our response to the attitude reflected in my friend’s post, namely, “if we think it is in the best interest of the most people, then we have the right to tell you to do it.” I am afraid the time might come when the government will mandate these shots.
If I point to out to this person exactly what Sundance summarized in this article, I will be labelled as spreading misinformation, but I am doing tons of research and have come to a different conclusion than the medical establishment and government. I am endowed by my Creator certain unalienable rights such as life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. I do not consent to be governed by unelected bureaucrats corrupted by $$ and power. How would others here concisely and constitutionally respond?
For starters, they aren’t “asking” us to take it. They are demanding and threatening us. Secondly it is not a vaccine, it is genetic manipulation. Right now it is experimental. Soon the FDA will pretend to find that it is ok to give it full approval. But it will still be genetic manipulation, not a vaccine. What gives anyone the right to force me to take a shot that manipulates my genetic activity, experimental or “FDA approved”?
Yes I do have the right to “catch COVID, the right to die, the right to unfounded or irrational fears, the right to deny reality, the right to misunderstand…” As for the right to get other people sick, what proof do you have that my not getting the “vaccine” makes other people sick?
And the only one “making the pandemic drag on” is the corrupt CDC and our government officials.
Please watch Dr. Cole on this subject. It is new and put on recently by Frontline Doctors.
https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/videos/dr-ryan-cole-stopthemandate/
Agree. This is must see. Dr.Malone posted this video on twitter today.
Along with Sundance, Malone may end up being one of the heros exposing the Big Lie.
@rwmalonemd
Thank you so much for the link. God Bless.
This is not quite the place to put this comment but I want to say that we have had people form our (former) church, leaders included “asking ” us to wear a mask to show our love for our fellow man.
Just a few days ago we were “asked” to take the vaccine for the same reason, again to show our love for our fellow man.
So be prepared to be hit from all sides and every which way including bogus religious leaders trying to make you look like a real creep that does not “love your fellow man” like you should if you do not take this vaccine.
This is a church that we left behind when our pastor sent us an email March before last during the first lock down telling us to ” do what your government tells you to do”.
We are still hearing from them, they say they do not want to “lose us”.
Go figure.
Thank God you left that church.
And certainly hope anyone getting pressured in such a way by their pastor does the same.
Pastors can be paid off just as politicians, judges and scientists to promote an agenda.
Be smarter than the Serpent.
They miss your money,
“We are still hearing from them, they say they do not want to “lose us”.”
My church lost me last year for being woke idiots instead of tending the Lord’s flock. I won’t be back, but I certainly have found the Lord without their “help.”
By the way, the only “adolescent behavior” I see going on is all the people putting their fingers in their ears and saying, “I don’t want to hear this!”
Grown-ups can have discussions and listen to both sides of the story and have an open mind. Grown-ups want to know the truth and they seek out differing information. They don’t censor it.
Paraphrasing another here: The biggest anti-vaxxers are those who are vaccinated that insist we wear masks and be locked down to avoid infecting them with COVID.
Its simple, really.
The narrative pushed by BigPharma, Fauci, CDC, NIH, FDA is inaccurate and wrong. Their position is illogical and is unsupported by the very double -blind control studies they claim to prefer. It is a money grab by Big Pharma in disregard for the welfare of the public.
If they allowed open, critical analysis by world renown experts like Geert Vanden Bossche and Dr. Peter McCullough among others, and if they did allowed open discussion and did not “push”, coerce, and force the vaccine, their position would not be as suspect.
But because of their censorship and coercion, they have undermined their credibility. I for one no longer believe them at all.
It is an argument that you raise of Plato v. Aristotle. There is nothing “adolescent” about it. It is two different ways of looking at the world: An elite running things v. the individual acting on his own inalienable rights. I thought we answered that on July 4, 1776.
If that didn’t answer it , I suggest you look at our “elites” . Do you want them making your life decisions for you? Joe Biden? Nancy Pelosi?
If the government mandates this shots, I still will not take it. Period.
They took the wrong turn on January 6, 2020 by denying the hearing of our grievances concerning the 2020 election and staging a bogus assault on the capital and then accusing 80 million plus people of being domestic terrorists. Now you want to convince me with an untested experimental drug that you’re looking after my best interests.
The narrative is a lie. They lie and we know they are lying.
Strange thing is, they will suffer too, so what is the reasoning? I know money and power but we all live here. Totally ridiculous. I say this: IMPEACH BIDEN AND HIS GROUP OF LIARS.
“I thought we answered that on July 4, 1776.“
Did you forget that Tyrants never take “go to Gehenna” for an answer?
“The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed by….”.
Jefferson
See Kipling’s “The Old Issue.” “No Truce with Kings.”
The Drive to Tyrannize is endemic to our species.
The only remedy remains what it was.
Sic Semper Tyrannis.
Look at the Flag/Seal of the Commonwealth of Virginia.
That Bastid ain’t ever getting up again.
But his Great-Grandson will try the same shiite again.
That is what it takes. Every time, every generation.
Liberty REQUIRES the Death of Tyrants.
Defenders of Liberty must be zealous to smite and slay.
Where the Gehenna is THAT?!
The Founders knew that.
Heck, our Fathers and Grandfathers knew it about Hitler and Tojo!
We have dis-remembered it to our children’s cost.
Will we “gird up our loins” or no?
Well said. I might add that these pro vaxxers relying on the three letter agencies to carry their argument is an appeal to authority which has no logical merit. If these authorities explained and proved what they are claiming, and if we didn’t have access to hard objective data that challenges their opinions – only then might they have a case.
Well said. I will add Trudope to that pair, other Canadians read, appreciate Sundance and the Treepers.
It is not pointless to respond. Such people need to be confronted. They expect us to sit there, shut up and take their juvenile rantings.
As one of Steve Bannon’s guests said this week, this is not the time for tolerance but the time to make enemies.
If your friend doesn’t like what you have to say, he’s threatening your basic liberties and so is not your friend.
Speak your mind. Out loud and publicly.
As one of Steve Bannon’s guests said this week, this is not the time for tolerance but the time to make enemies.
No, our enemies have already marked us out.
It is time to destroy our enemies.
It is coming to that Paul Ashley and I hope to Heaven it does not go much beyond that.
We will soon find out.
I agree. Being the “silent majority” is one of the reasons we have reached this point. We have allowed the other side to say what they want when they want; we have given in to their “being offended” by ideas that don’t meet every part of their dystopian vision. Do away with the “silent majority.”
Your friend’s pondering is based on the initial assumption that these RNA injections are a proper vaccine. None of the downstream thoughts matter until that initial assumption is addressed. If it was me, I would be convinced by the data, as reported by the CDC, WHO, and doctors like Malone, Pollard, Heisenberg, and Nobel Laureate Montagnier. All the data is out there, ready to be consumed by anyone willing to find it, and it all tells us that the injections are less than worthless. Not only do they not prevent contraction or transmission of covid, but the injections themselves have harmed or killed untold millions (if we apply the Harvard Pilgrim meta-analysis to the covid VAERS).
Ultimately, though, your friend may be building a comfortable sort of mental box to live in. By talking as if they are doing the right thing, they won’t have to feel responsible in the future if this “vaccination” program is ever exposed for the eugenics movement that it likely is. Imagine having to bear that guilt, knowing that you casually murdered dozens of innocent people just to keep your middle-class paycheck rolling in. It’s not something most of us would want to accept. So you may never convince your friend to change their mind at this point. If this eugenics movement is exposed in our lifetime, I expect there will be a lot of suicides among our healthcare workers.
“The right to get other people sick?”
Do not let them get away with that accusation. Remind them that the vaccinated can spread the virus/variants as well. Of course, recently the Left adjusted this accusation to suggest that while the vaccinated can spread it, they are less likely to do so than the unvaccinated. To that I ask, “Data please?”
Did Obama’s birthday party become categorized as a super-spreader event? Quite the herd there.
Evidently they are finding an uptick in outbreaks following the party.
If I only scrolled down a notch more!
I just read that Martha’s Vineyard is now a hot spot covid after that party.
Haven’t seen any info on it.
If true, They are probably taking Ivermectin, that unless therapeutic. ????
When a government goes out of its way to control people by lock downs, vaccine passports, censorship, bribes and coercion to shill for even more vaccines that even they say are not working, the people have every right to dissent.
There is a reason for all the open borders, the censorship of anything anti-government, the same lame talking points and draconian measures taken by all these countries. This is a world wide planned agenda and the people pulling the strings appear to have specific goals in mind. To keep pushing more vaccines when they are not working, and the idea of dissing proven therapeutic is very troubling.
“The right to get other people sick?”
Do not let them get away with that accusation. Remind them that the vaccinated can spread the virus/variants as well. Of course, recently the Left adjusted this accusation to suggest that while the vaccinated can spread it, they are less likely to do so than the unvaccinated. To that I ask, “Data please?”
As to the other points your friend made, the rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness are for each individual to decide for themselves. Your friends argument that they must protect us adolescents from ourselves is horrific in the sense of how unaware they are of what they are saying, of where that leads, namely, totalitarianism.
Yes, these people are not thinking rationally. Yes, it is not logical how they think. It is not the least bit Constitutional. It also is to be blind to history–of what happens when out of fear–whether that fear is based in reality or not–one trades their liberty in exchange for supposed security.
We shake our heads at their lack of logic. But this is where we have to remember that totalitarianism has a legit “spirit” or “zeitgeist” behind it, an intangible yet real influence on people’s hearts and minds to such an extent that even if not especially the most educated are susceptible to its influence. Such historical, repeatable “isms” have demonic influences behind them–demons that sort of sponsor and champion such destructive ideas which repeat themselves throughout history when people forgot the destructive end that these ideas cause (what the ancient Platonist Greeks called “daemons” or what St. Paul called the “principalities and powers of the air”)
Again, we are dealing here with something that goes deeper than that which can be decided through logical discourse, through data-based science. It has a spiritual component to it. A fanaticism. You can’t reason with fanatics. Totalitarianism can’t be reasoned with. It can only be fought against and defeated or it inevitably will defeat you. Patrick Henry said as much.
I don’t take experimental medications whose efficacy at preventing death can’t be demonstrated statistically.
Efficacy of a tetanus shot can be shown.
If 100 people get tetanus, 90 will die. If 100 vaccinated people get tetanus, none will die. That’s efficacy, and it can be shown.
To show statistical efficacy of the Covid vaccine, how many humans would you have to study?
Let’s say 1 in 1000 will die from Covid-19. (99.9% survival rate. )
That means 1,000 in a million will die.
(Actually, this is more likely to be 500 in a million, if the survival rate is 99.95%.)
So, to do the study to show efficacy, you must take one million vaccinated and one million unvaccinated with the same characteristics, and you must get all of them infected.
Then you want to show that in the vaccinated sample, significantly fewer than 500 die.
And to get statistical significance with numbers that small is impossible. It can’t be done. You can’t control for the confounding factors.
So, efficacy can’t be tested.
The numbers you’re seeing in the news media that compare vaccinated with unvaccinated don’t even qualify as observational studies. That is junk.
Furthermore, there are plausible causal mechanisms of long term, irreversible damage such as blood clotting, sterilization, diabetes, and auto-immune disease due to the vaccine — but no tests have been done to exclude these.
There is a reason vaccines require ten years or more of study before approval.
There is a reason only 5% of vaccines become FDA approved from first concept to final study.
Tell him that, and let him think.
From what I’ve read, the 95% efficacy number we keep hearing about is based on the manufacturer trials run last year. The 95% number only represents how the “vaccine” group did. When that is compared to the control group (before they tainted it) the relative efficacy showed only a 1% advantage for the “vaccine”. Of course we’re now seeing even that small advantage evaporate.
Yes! I also read that the test group was only approx 20 people, after they had whittled down others who did not take the two required shots to remain in the study. Reportedly, some test subjects failed to meet the protocol to remain in the “trial” when they were too sick to take a second injection!
So these sick “one shot” test subjects were dropped from the study as though they were never in it to begin with?
So.. we base the fate of millions of healthy people who have had no statistical problem with Covid-19, on those twenty “remaining” test subjects who seemed to be OK for fifteen days following the injections, and thereafter the “study” was essentially ended?
They quickly eliminate the control groups so there could be no before and after injection comparison in outcomes?
They refuse to autopsy tens of thousands of otherwise healthy people, who died subsequent to the injections, to investigate if there may be a problem with these experimental trials after all?
They now claim to be certain that the injections, that have not yet had the benefit of even one year of study to date, are already proven safe over the long term?
Really?? REALLY??
The FDA has made irreversible mistakes in the past. And, when people say, “Follow the science,” we can ask, “But which scientists? There is not a consensus among them.” Those getting their “science” spoonfed by CNN are being malnourished.
“Those getting their “science” spoonfed by CNN are being malnourished”
And it seems that a whole lot of GOP pols have only been watching CNN for the entire run of COVID.
That person is not your friend. They are a would be NAZI that would turn you over to the camps in a heartbeat. They are also a liar or a completely incompetent healthcare worker.
You are so right LULU and a whole lot of people are going to find this out the hard way pretty soon.
There is no talking to these kind of people, they do not listen.
We are fast on our way to having a government that is controlled by a bunch of drunks, addicts and psycos.
Every single policy that Biden has put in place in the last 6 months has destroyed everything good about America and broken down everything that Pres Trump has tried to build up.
I don’t think that we can depend on state election audits or court cases much longer.
Yes. I agree. But we do need the *proof* of these stolen elections to surface, so that those who will not tolerate tyranny have an irrefutable Constitutional right to take back their nation from these backstabbing usurpers.
I don’t know what kind of schooling this “healthcare professional” went through, but anyone with a brain can put two and two together all that is wrong with this “vaccine”.
For one, big red flag, there are no long term results of adverse effects. They also inoculated their control group.
Two, I have saved every incident I’ve come across of the adverse effects. And it is very much underreported. There are a lot of people that have been injured or not feeling well still. I just read a review on iherb for a supplement, that someone said helped their chest pain from the vaccine, for crying out loud. None of this stuff is being reported to VAERS. There’s been a lot of deaths, too.
Three, like it or not, there is viable treatment. That is probably the biggest travesty of all in this. I know people can suffer from the same side effects of the vaccine with survivable Covid but early treatment would prevent a lot of this.
Four, I will echo, even if the FDA does approve, the history of trying for a coronavirus vaccine has had very bad outcomes. And the mRNA vaccines have been a failure in animal trials. In fact, there is testimony in a Senate committee meeting, they did no animal trials for the Covid vaccines.
So, if this “healthcare professional” did not know about all this, that is his problem. You know too much and we should have the freedom to decide whether the risk outweighs the benefits. And so far, with the new mutations, it doesn’t help much. And new untested boosters, will not be any more convincing, in fact, less so. They want to be the guinea pigs, go ahead. We have had to gather our own informed consent and we do not give it.
It’s the denial of treatment with therapeutics that bothers me the most. People have died because the medical community is either so stupid or so gullible or so scared or so greedy that they deny their patients therapeutics that would save their lives. Thanks to Cuomo, my mom’s doctor can’t even write a script for ivermectin.
For any doctors out there, what the hell ever happened to the Hippocratic oath?
The company I work for is making money, a lot, on these vaccines, supplying materials for the manufacture of them. And the management is in lockstep with the CDC, pushing vaccinations. I was on a call where a board member was growling about “encouraging” employees to get vaccinated by removing COVID pay for the unvaccinated who get sick, but keeping it for the vaccinated in case they get sick. The unvaccinated need to use their PTO. At the time, vaccinated could remove their masks, but unvaccinated needed to stay masked up. Real passive aggressive bullying. I’m sorry, I’m not putting my health at risk taking a poorly studied vaccine just to line the pockets of the company owners and stockholders. Particularly when there’s well known therapeutics available!
They deliberately created a lethal bioweapon inside of a laboratory. Then they unleashed it. They denied safe treatment to sick patients. They created and then weaponized a pandemic.
And now they expect perfectly healthy people to bite their shiny red apple to make all our problems disappear?
Where have I heard that one before?
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1) This isn’t about them asking; this is about them forcing. Even absent a law on the books, the pressure applied from every angle equals “force”.
2) We are not the heavy handed ones. We are fair minded. Its not like*we* are forcing *them* to reject the vax.
3) The right we are protecting is our autonomy as individuals to affect our own well being. Does this friend happen to be pro-choice? In our case we are protecting ourselves against potential danger while remotely, possibly, putting someone else at risk. A pro-choicer wants to similarly protect herself, but by directly and undeniably killing an innocent.
4) The passive aggressive quips about selfish adolescent attitudes is unfounded, bullying and bigoted. It is in ways worse than an assault on one’s physical body. It is a rape of another’s mind and soul to scandalize their inner concience with such unfounded ugly characterizations.
Personally, I seek the common good and will sacrifice for it, but my requirement to the community ENDS when it reaches the point I must have put something put in my or my families’ bodies that I feel may be harmful.
Here’s a good link:
18 Reasons I Won’t Be Getting a Covid Vaccine
https://www.deconstructingconventional.com/post/18-reason-i-won-t-be-getting-a-covid-vaccine
We all can see the lies used to brainwash the masses into subservience.
One of our challenges will be to destroy their lies.
Let’s brainstorm a little and come up with the top 10 or 20 lies told by the medical tyrants with corresponding references. There is something about being lied to that is more powerful than facts and experts that can be rebutted by others or censored all together. Once falsehoods are exposed and truth accepted we can ask why.
1. The government lied about how dangerous this virus was to the general public. Unless you had serious existing health problems people had a 99.98% survivability.
2. The drug corporations the CDC and the NIH lied about this being a ‘vaccine’ and it being the only way to reach herd immunity.
3. The drug corporations the CDC and the NIH lied about the ‘vaccine’ being safe and effective. There are many serious side effects including death.
You can still get the virus and pass it to others.
If we continue this refine it and provide references it can be a good tool to convince the propagandized public
We need backup to prove almost every lie.
The most concise reply? There cannot be a society without individuals, but there can be an individual without a society. The village must defer.
The answers are along the lines of:
1 The vaccine is not a sterlizing vaccine (ask him if he knows what this is?)
2 The vaccine does not help to keep them healthy. In every heavily vaccinated country cases and hospitalizations are climbing with variants amongst the vaccinated only, in low level countries the cases are remaining small (ask him why this is happening?)
3 By not preventing transmission, it does not help other people (ask him how a person who can now transmit a disease without apparent symptoms, unlike the unvaxxed, is helping those around them?)
4 by not being sterlizing it creates a pressure to induce more deadly strains (ask him to read about Marek’s disease), ask him why people get 2 polio vaccines (1 sterlizing and one not – why do they just not give the IPV?)
5 catching covid is minimal in impact to practically everyone without co-morbidities (add in the stats). Ask him what monomania is and how people with Hypochondriasis are diagnosed? – if a healthy person 30 years old kept going to the doctor worried about dying from influenza, wearing a mask, gloves and wiping every surface down with alcohol what would the reaction be?
6 as the average age of death is 82 and even then you need to be pretty unhealthy – ask him what the actuarial risk is for your age from this compared to other activities and what then are unfounded and irrational fears of risk misjudgement compared to other risks?
7 ask him why, if safe medicines/vaccines can be produced in 3 months that everyone knows is safe by looking at the design of the drug we even bother to run any clinical trials at all? All medicines/vaccines should then be known to be safe in advance by design. Why spend 15 years and $10 million dollars to demonstrate something that is already known. Why do most trials then fail either through unanticipated toxicity problems, or show up unexpected longer term side effects, or failure to show longitudinal benefit?
8 ask him why all the vaccines are mrna or variants of this approach? – why not a regular attenuated virus, we know how to do this and its been isolated according to the NIH so it should be easy? Why are there no other mrna vaccines for anything else if its been around 20 years? why was the only adenovirus vaccine for HIV withdrawn? Why use a chimpanzee adenovirus for the J&J vaccine, instead of a human one?
9 why would you not want a mild illness to circulate and provide antibodies to the general community. This is how we treat influenza and other respiratory viruses with similar fatality rates.
10 do adults not look at risk factors to draw conculsion, but adolescents become over focussed on single issues (clothes/sub cultures/music etc) ?
In saying all this I doubt anyone will listen as its either you can see the contradictions or you can’t it seems to me.