Before getting to the sketchy part; first, let’s talk….
There has been a great deal of discussion about the vitriolic, almost rabid disposition of people who are pushing the vaccination.
This should not be a surprise, although it might be disconcerting to find formerly reasonable people in your network, perhaps even in your family, now become seemingly unhinged if the subject arises.
It is demonstrably true, there has been a cleaving of our American population as the debate about the COVID vaccination rages on. However, it is wise to consider the underlying psychology of a person who has been vaccinated, before engaging in an argument. You may end up being entirely correct in your position; however, an intense or combative argument? At what cost?
A vaccinated person is, as a consequence of their decision, in an irreversible frame of mind. Once the vaccination has been injected into a persons body, there is no turning back; the Rubicon has been crossed, the event horizon closes, there is no retreat. Any conversation or debate about vaccine efficacy or long-term consequences with a person who has accepted the vaccine must be weighed accordingly.
Genuine empathetic listening is needed on both sides.
The no-retreat baseline can, often does, form the origin of anger and vitriol, particularly in unstable leftists -who are, by nature of their ideology- professional blame-casters and prone to emotional responses as a matter of disposition. Therefore, it is better to avoid the topic entirely (if possible) and retain your peace of mind.
♦ Revelations over the past few years have led to the complete collapse of credibility for many institutions. The healthcare field is the latest example of a politically controlled ideological industry that can no longer be trusted to make decisions based on a detachment from their political interests.
The healthcare industry has joined the education system, the justice system (DOJ), law enforcement (FBI), the intelligence system, arts and entertainment, as well as many organizations now controlled through the prism of politics. Political ideology, as the determining factor of institutional behavior, has infected almost every facet of modern life; healthcare is no exception.
Given the nature of the metastatic corruption, very visible in multiple institutions, it is completely understandable that more people would not trust the National Institute of Health (NIH), the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) or any other regulatory body or agency now vested in the COVID vaccine.
Factually, as previously stated, the FDA final approval of the vaccines is a moot point. The FDA, just like a vaccinated person, is in a no retreat position. There is no way the U.S. FDA cannot approve the vaccines that have been sold, forced and pushed upon the entire global population. Can you even begin to imagine the ramifications of the FDA saying the vaccine was (a) unsafe; or (b) ineffective? Think about it. FDA approval is a foregone conclusion, regardless of safety or efficacy.
There is every reason not to trust the healthcare industry on the issue of vaccination(s). Indeed, their obtuse behavior, logical disconnect, false assertions and gross hypocrisy is more than enough to create doubt about the vaccine. Then overlay the lack of consequence for all known institutional corruption, and there’s even more reason to doubt them.
♦ Two key issues stick in my mind about the COVID vaccines that make me pretty firm in opposition:
(1) The fact that vaccine makers would abandon the clinical trial control group is a big red flag. The fact that vaccine makers could not abandon the clinical trial control group without authorization from the FDA, CDC and NIH is an even bigger red flag. {Go Deep}
The clinical trial was assembled to produce only one result. THAT is not science. THAT is sketchy and points to an ulterior motive. That is not science, that’s political science.
(2) The fact that data shows the vaccine provides no benefit is another big red flag. Specifically, the equal hospitalization rate of vaxxed and non-vaxxed patients. Almost every study I can find with data on COVID hospitalized cases that includes the vaccination status (not many), shows an equal percentage of vaccinated/hospitalized people to the vaccinated population in general. {Go Deep}
[ex. If 75% of the regional population is vaccinated, then 75% of the hospitalized COVID patients are vaccinated.] This statistic demonstrates the vaccine doesn’t stop serious illness.
Put both of those issues together, and overlay the demonstrably collapsed institutional credibility, and I am not comfortable with this specific vaccine.
I am not anti-VAX, I am not comfortable with THIS specific vaccination. And, again, once administered there is no retreat.
We should all cherish, respect and value the differences of opinion of this very personal issue. Healthcare is a personal and private matter. Other people have different factors, risk-factors and hundreds of considerations that guide or have guided their decision. We should all respect that; and we do not want to see ‘vaccination status‘ become a fragmentation problem for our CTH community. We are all in the same foxhole.
♦ALL OF THAT said, Dr. Ryan Cole is a Mayo-trained physician who has seen over 350,000 patients in his career. He also serves as the CEO of Cole Diagnostics, which has processed over 100,000 Coronavirus tests. Dr. Cole gave an alarming presentation that merits consideration:
WATCH VIDEO HERE
In response to criticism for his position, Dr. Cole wrote:
“I am concerned about the lack of long term safety data, because this vaccine is simply too new. We have never tried an mRNA vaccine in humans before. I am concerned about the implications of injection of foreign, synthetic mRNA and the antibody reaction which cannot be reversed. It concerns me that large numbers of individuals are being essentially enrolled in a long term phase III clinical trial for the vaccine without being fully informed of this, with no ability for recompense if injured or in case of death. I am concerned by the number of adverse event and deaths that have been reported in correlation with this vaccine administration.” (link)
I have come to the conclusion that man did not evolve from monkeys .
Man evolved from cattle … …. … although still keeping the herd instinct fully intact.
DOES THE mRNA VACCINE CHANGE YOUR DNA? (Oh yes, it can!)
One of the claims that is suppose to allay one’s fears with this gene therapy/vaccine, is that it save because it can’t change Your DNA, the informed experts would laugh at you as an uneducated rube. Well, the enclosed article is a potential game changer. It came out this past May.
https://searchworks.stanford.edu/articles/cmedm__33958444
Reverse-transcribed SARS-CoV-2 RNA can integrate into the genome of cultured human cells and can be expressed in patient-derived tissues.
They investigated a perplexing problem with COVID, the prolonged detection of severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) RNA and recurrence of PCR-positive tests have been widely reported in patients after recovery from COVID-19, but some of these patients do not appear to shed infectious virus.
what could cause that?
The researchers in the lab able to incorporate/reverse transcribe mRNA into human DNA cell tissue! Uh oh!!! Trans-humanism here we come. I will provide an explanation for how this could possibly occur with those who don’t have a science background:
The mRNA vaccines represent gene therapy and a very unfavorable therapeutic proportionality as a treatment. This could be a very involved an unnecessary treatment just to ameliorate symptoms since the vaccine doesn’t prevent transmission or death, so what’s the point?
The novel mRNA “vaccine” is a synthetic pathogen stimulant created by a computer generated sequence of mRNA. It is designed to override the cell’s normal mRNA protein synthesis functions with a substitute mRNA to create the spike protein that induces the body to produce antibodies. It is a promising but unverified technology that in its present form may do more harm than good. It most surely represents a disproportionate risk compared to alternate treatments or natural acquired immunity for the reduction of COVID infections at this time. The concern is the potential unknown risks and potential for irreversible harmful changes to affect and change the genome.
The synthetic mRNA has been genetically engineered to evade immune system detection and breakdown by replacing a part of the RNA nucleobase, Uracil, with a substitute pseudo-uridylyl nucleobase. This in effect prolongs the mRNA’s lifespan in the cell. It is estimated that the Moderna vaccine contains 40 trillion of these mRNA molecules. The longer duration in the cell makes it more available and potentially more likely to engage in the messaging process of “reverse transcriptase”.
Normally the cell’s DNA makes mRNA to provide instructions to the cell, in this case for protein synthesis. The direction of the messaging is normally one way, DNA to RNA. This was considered irreversible but the understanding of this message coding process has recently changed. Due to the fleeting lifespan of normal mRNA, these instructions from the mRNA would not normally be available to reverse the messaging process and become incorporated into the cell’s DNA and change its genome. However with the now identified fourteen different proteins that are involved in DNA repair called polymerases, along with gene therapies and the genetically engineered mRNA, the possibility now exists to effect a permanent and unforeseen change in the individual’s genome with the incorporation of modified RNA into the cell’s DNA via the reverse transcriptase process.
So long story short, do not accept the safety argument on a molecular level with these novel mRNA vaccines. No one, either pro or con this technique can not tell you either way that your DNA can not be effected. We just don’t know yet. This is a promising technology used in cancer research but it also could turn out to be a Frankenstein technology. Buyer beware.
Lies, lies, lies
Perhaps the Treepers, and others, who themselves, or have family members, that have employers who require they get these inoculations or lose their job can share the video above of Doctor Cole, to their boss, even have the boss watch it with them, along with explaining these inoculations are still very much experimental, with no studies done on long term effects, and then ask their employer to consider delaying these requirement until the fervor to force these shots calms down?
Give the employers tools they can use to justify deferring the requirement at this time, create the means to break the spell the ‘do-it-now’ illusion the news media is casting?
The great pivot with Dr. Malone- he’s talking about how FauXi and the CDC will have to eventually go back to other therapies to treat Covid 19. And FauXi’s insistence on staying with Big Pharma new products and not using re-purposed drugs like ivermectin..
https://rumble.com/vku0vh-the-great-pivot-prediction-coming-to-fruition.html
Dr. Malone on the War room and how the vaccines are leaky
https://rumble.com/vku1mp-vaccines-are-leaky-and-have-poor-durability.html
OneHorse, I’m with you.
Once you pay Danegeld you never get rid of the Danes.
I’m for hanging them.
Hey! Nelson here. Ancestral hometown of Copenhagen. Leave those Danes alone!
Neil’s son nothing personal just a historical reference. To wit paying bribe money never works out.
“The Danegeld was a tax raised to pay tribute to the Viking raiders to save a land from being ravaged. It was called the geld or gafol in eleventh-century sources. It was characteristic of royal policy in both England and Francia during the ninth through eleventh centuries, collected both as tributary, to buy off the attackers, and as stipendiary, to pay the defensive forces”
This has been going on for a long time. Any who are taking newer Rx medications are participants in the final stage of drug testing, aka marketing.
There is no practical way to know all the drug/supplement interactions, and rare but serious side effects of a new medication, other than to prescribe it broadly.
And, a new drug is not required to demonstrate that is is MORE efficasious than drugs already on the market; only that more than 50 percent of those in the drug trials, noted some benefit.
We have been screwed, by the medical establishment, including drug companies and regulatory agencies, for many years. With covid its just becoming more obvious.
There IS no “Dr. Kildaire”, “Marcus Welby,m.d.” or “House”.
Yes, there ARE good individuals working in healthcare, but the SYSTEM is designed with two, key priorities which are drilled into each healthcare worker, and institutionilised into all policies and procedures;
“CYA”, at the individual, group, institutional and industry level; Cover Your Ass.
And, maximise the $ extracted for each patient
from the financial remuneration system of health insurance and government.
With all that those two imply, their is no room left on the priority list for heal the patient, or “do the patient no harm”.
As a result, what the system (comprised of medical schools, research companies, Dr’s, hospitals, insurance companies, regulatory agencies etc does well is make people sick, keep people sick, and kill people.
IMHO,…its a horrifying disillusionment, and understandable that many resist it.
Having worked in medicine, recieved “training” and all, I can not unsee what I have seen, or unknow what I know, …
Agree 100%
I saw this happening way before the plandemic. Managed care turned all these healthcare professionals into Nazi zombies who could no longer think on their own.
My dad was a very accomplished man who lived to 95. When he was hospitalized during the last few years of his life, the hospice people would be called not because he was deathly ill, but because he was old and in the way.
One time they were ready to let him die because he wouldn’t let the nurses put him on IV nutrition. He hated needles so they said ‘this is the end.’
I went down the hall and got him a turkey sandwich and he gobbled it up. The hospice lady said, “This isn’t the patient that was described to me.”
Nobody thought to actually feed the man through his mouth?
Dad lived one more incredible year before he was buried at Arlington National Cemetary.
Sounds like a great dad. A warrior to the end.
My GP is a really great guy and became an MD after very successful years in another field of endeavor.
He is stubbornly holds on to and is expanding his private practice much to the annoyance of the “health care” machine.
I asked him how often do hmo’s try to buy him out and he said “EVERY DAMNED DAY!”. They have threatened all manner of meyham if he doesn’t surrender but is not gonna let the bastards wear him down! I hope they don’t have him whacked.
My medical status is no ones business but mine. I don’t ask other people theirs and I avoid convos about it as much as possible and I think that’s good advice Sundance.
I would guess you had no say in it?
COVID
The “cover” used by the tyrants to usher in collapse of the economy, society, governments, financial institutions, etc.
The “death jab” to kill republics like the USA.
BINGO.
WHAT IF THE FDA IS PARTICIPATING IN A CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY?
But I agree with Sundance, there’s no way they don’t approve it. But I would submit there is a way that the people behind this may end up at the Hague being Tried for crimes against Humanity. And a lot of people involved should resign and get out of the picture expeditiously.
What do you mean, “What if?”
People are protesting this the world over. But nobody seems able to actually take charge of their own government.
I can’t talk to my own husband about it.
We aren’t getting anywhere, our own people are aiding and abetting them, as they exterminate us all like pests.
How can we all sit back and let it happen? If some fool wants to jump off the bridge I can’t stop them.
But now they want our kids.
BUT NOW THEY WANT OUR KIDS.
Judith,
So many of your posts resonate with me! I too learned about the idiocy in the medical field and the need to put everyone and anyone on multiple, MULTIPLE pharmacueticals back when I was caring for my dying father. There are multiple family members, including my husband, that I no longer can discuss any of this with. I do have several friends who are in various stages of realization who I can talk to and also the people on CTH are a life line to sanity! Thank you for being one of them!
Thank you Leet! We will get through this somehow! I just don’t think it will be easy. Faith will carry us through. ????
They are hoping to kill off, one way or another, all of their living primary creditors that have been defrauded for decades because those creditors are owed more money than exists on the planet. The jig will REALLY be up when the fiat money system collapses (soon), which is why they’re all on fire to finish the job. Any guess why the Fed refuses auditing? How about: Because the debt-credit books have never been balanced; we’ve seen the debt side, has anyone (besides the fraudsters) ever seen the credits? Guess which side is WAY bigger.
Sundance, I commend your determination to present reasoned, logical arguments about all phases of the COVID mess.
I’ve stated previously that I researched this topic thoroughly as soon as Covid became a news item. There was strong argument from the beginning that hydroxychloroquine and zinc was therapeutic. The evidence built despite the institutions, led by Big Pharma, trying to suppress any mention of therapeutics or prophylactics. In my thinking, the therapeutics were so effective that all of the attention paid to masks and lockdowns was just noise. So too with the untested vaccines, the agencies rush to ignore protocols and start injecting people.
The sad part is that although I haven’t taken any vaccine, about half of my family has taken a vaccine. I failed to convince them that my line of thought could be better than the money grubbing institutions.
You failed because the idea of the “money grubbing institutions”–and the rest of the government through the media–was to drive home the idea of fear! It’s almost impossible to reason with anyone when they are afraid of losing the most precious thing they have…their life.
I have also failed to convince three of my four children from taking the jab. My thoughts now, at age 70 with two major illnesses, that I must keep myself healthy in case I have to bury my children. How utterly sad is that type of thought? But I must have it in all reality. Plus, I read an article that the therapeutics were fought hard against because the big pharma could not have gotten EUA if there WERE these types of medicines that would help the against the virus.
I am also sad that I failed to open the eyes of my only brother and sister. They are the only ones I have and they both took the killer shot.
You tried. Don’t beat yourself up with guilt. Your siblings made their own decisions and that’s not on you.
Y’all need to hear this woman. Chilling.
From what i hear, this guy is building Nuremburg 2.0….
Hear that.. employers who are MANDATING these lethal injections?
BACK OFF before you get on the wrong side of history and the NUREMBERG LAWS. This is no joke and ignorance is NO EXCUSE!!
If I were injected I’d be picketing every drugstore and doctors office still pushing these lethal cocktails. Get out there and DO something!
BE SEEN AND HEARD before your obit says Delta variant!
Amazing! Her story should be heard by everyone. It explains a lot about what’s happening today and HOW it is coming to pass. This is a repeat of the Holocaust.
The information/policies she describes are detailed in Bonhoeffer, Eric Metaxas’ biography of Dietrich Bonhoeffer, whose father was an eminent psychiatrist in German in the early 1900s. Dietrich’s father and mother were able to get out of Germany, into England, and were not part of this wickedness that they understood was coming. Several of the Bonhoeffer family members (most of whom were recognized professionals in German society/education) worked diligently from the 1920s in political and military opposition to Hitler, and several lost their lives because of their efforts.
Another old volume, Bright Valley of Love, details the day-to-day experiences and deaths of children who were swept up in the policicies she describes, many of whom were put to death.
Whistling, thank you for providing this video; very, very informative. If I remember correctly, Reiner Fuellmich was instrumental in assisting with the Volkswagen lawsuit. He is currently working on an International Class Action lawsuit (Covid). He is a very determined individual and I have fingers crossed that we hear from him very soon.
This is the video that Sundance needs to share. This is what I am feeling with ever fiber in my body. This is why I was born to these times.
This HOLOCAUST SURVIVOR knows exactly what is going to happen if we don’t pull together IMMEDIATELY to battle a terrible evil. ☠️???
Might be time to make it personal
Just Like the left does
Start picketing at thier homes
Isolate the target
I think I even know where my Governor lives
The responding MD from St. Luke’s response is totally emotional. That don’t cut it in medicine. Empirical Studies are what matter and what setse precedent for treatment. Statistical evidence is in the vaccine has not inferred immunity on anyone, and statistically the injuries and deaths from the vaccine are undeniable. Studies on Ivermectin treatment of COVID show that it works to kill the virus statistically. There should not be mass immunization of a vaccine approved or not approved if there are viable treatments available. There is research and the statistics to back it up exist here. Meta-analysis of Randomized Trials of Ivermectin to treat SARS-CoV-2 Infection https://covid19criticalcare.com/wpcontent/uploads/2021/07/AndrewHill7-6-21paper.pdfIn October 2020, the FLCCC Alliance developed a preventive and early outpatient combination treatment protocol for COVID-19 called I-MASK+. It’s centered around ivermectin, a well-known, FDA-approved anti-parasite drug that has been used successfully for more than four decades to treat onchocerciasis “river blindness” and other parasitic diseases. It is one of the safest drugs known. It is on the WHO’s list of essential medicines, has been given 3.7 billion times around the globe, and has won the Nobel prize for its global and historic impacts in eradicating endemic parasitic infections in many parts of the world. Our medical discovery of a rapidly growing published medical evidence base, demonstrating ivermectin’s unique and highly potent ability to inhibit SARS-CoV-2 replication and to suppress inflammation, prompted our team to use ivermectin for prevention and treatment in all stages of COVID-19. Ivermectin is not yet FDA-approved for the treatment of COVID-19, but on Jan 14, 2021, the NIH changed their recommendation for the use of ivermectin in COVID-19 from “against” to “neutral”. (see our press release).
Our life-saving MATH+ Hospital Treatment Protocol for COVID-19 (available in several languages), created in March 2020, is intended for hospitalized patients. The recently developed I-MASK+ Prevention & Early Outpatient Treatment Protocol for COVID-19 (this page) is designed for use as a prevention and in early outpatient treatment, for those who test positive for COVID-19. The protocols complement each other, and both are physiologic-based combination treatment regimens developed by leaders in critical care medicine. All the component medicines are FDA-approved (except ivermectin), inexpensive, readily available and have been used for decades with well-established safety profiles. Download it here. https://covid19criticalcare.com/covid-19-protocols/i-mask-plus-protocol/. They also have an in-patient protocol. Their website address is https://covid19criticalcare.com/ . Referral information for treatment is there. As a retired Physician Assistant who has an auto-immune disease I have Ivermectin in my medicine cabinet and I plan on taking it if I get a respiratory illness. I will not let a political agenda that has castrated our medical system take my life. Don’t count on your local Doctor to treat you with this life-saving protocol. Take action and have medication available if you fall ill with Covid.
Thank you. I have been taking Ivermectin since May, in hopes of treating long Covid. People should not hesitate to get the therapeutics they need NOW, to have it on hand for themselves and their loved ones *before* they get into trouble.
I hear the latest spending bill actually regulates the sale of over-the-counter supplements like Vitamins C, D3 and Zinc and Quercetin. Unbelievable!
CAN YOU SEE THEM NOW?
These people are coming for us NOW. Is anybody hearing the alarm ? Pretty soon doctors who dare to prescribe any lifesaving therapeutics, even vitamins and supplements, will lose their licenses.
It is time to FIGHT BACK. We need *everybody* in this fight. Those of you who took the injections already, have a small, and rapidly diminishing, window of opportunity to save yourselves and the rest of the world. WE NEED YOU IN THIS FIGHT. ☠️???
Pretty sure I got the “Rona” in March 2020 while vacationing for several weeks in Florida. I went for months assuming that it was just a sinus and /or respiratory infection that wouldn’t go away and was messing with me. Then a cough that nearly made me think I would pass out. I Never got tested. Since I was away from home, my physician started me on Antibiotics and Prednisone. Worked OK for a bit, but came back. I went a second round, albeit she wasn’t happy about doing that. But it did clear up all but left a wheezing. I never felt bad except for one day during this whole time. When I got home she prescribed a rescue inhaler to stop the remaining wheezing and later started me on Symbicort to help heal any damage that had been done. I’m finally getting back to what I consider normal. Been a long road, but truly just an inconvenience for the most part. But I would do it all over again to stay away from that shot!
Have you looked into taking NAC? Check with your physician, but I believe it could help.
Had never heard of it, but checked it out. I’ll ask her about it next visit! Thanks for the heads up Miles!
You’re welcome – I hope it helps!
Also, be aware that the FDA want to make it prescription only – it’s available over-the-counter at the moment.
I also read a very interesting piece of research this week (sorry, lost the link), that indicates taking nicotine lozenges for 5-6 days can help following a bout of Covid (something to do with aiding the body destroy the spike proteins that’ve been absorbed by monocytes) – I got a box of hundred 1 mg lozenges just in case, and I’ll take about 15-18 a day (over a 15 hour period) if required.
What is NAC?
This is NAC:
https://www.iherb.com/c/n-acetyl-cysteine-nac?gclid=CjwKCAjw3riIBhAwEiwAzD3TiQwa2Ay_FDX44ln9xleoy5DP1lyzijQAKNVMZkLnrtmmiuUfGvcDehoCh-MQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
Amanda has included a link. If it’s something that you think might help (and after checking with your physician), buy it while you can – apparently, the FDA want to make it prescription only!
Misinformation is being spread like crazy on both sides. It’s become a battle of fake narratives.
Care to expand on what the “fake narratives” are on “both sides”?
Or to define who you mean by “both sides”?
Or what you mean by “misinformation”?
Do you believe this “misinformation” has been EQUALLY “spread like crazy” by “both sides”?
Which “side”, if any, do you believe to have the “bully pulpit”?
Is the side with the “bully pulpit” not then spreading the MOST “misinformation” by far? Explain why not, if you believe not.
Since there are only, by your own definition, TWO sides (“both”), then are you then saying that CTH is spreading misinformation and fake narratives like crazy? As in “crazy, anti-vaxx, tin-foil hatters”?
And if so, why are you here?
Sloth is a troll.
gda: BINGO!
Was stunned when a man I considered a strong believer in the Lord told me he was getting the vax so he could fly to Aruba for his wedding anniversary. “I’m going to Aruba, no matter what!”, this saint exclaimed. Inwardly I shook my head and said nothing.
Stunned again when a well loved and respected elder told me he’d taken the stuff. “I’m not sure it was the right thing….” he said, and then trailed off. “Give me your email address so I can send you some information”, I said. “NO! I have a nervous condition and don’t want to worsen it by hearing anything else about Covid or what’s going on”, he answered. “There goes another saint, shot down in flames by the enemy; the same enemy he so skillfully warns us of from the pulpit”, I sadly thought to myself.
Believers should be aware the Bible teaches that the beast and the prophet arise from the world system (“cosmos” in the original Greek manuscripts; hence our word “cosmopolitan”) of government. And yet some believers still believe our government is good and has their good in mind. 98% of those in my assembly have the world’s blinders on. Another elder told me I should be careful to not “get caught up in conspiracy theories”.
This fine man’s not heard any facts or presentations from me about my “conspiracy theories”, but adopts the view that the few things I have talked broadly about, are conspiracy theories. And yet, a member of the Sanhedrin (who secretly followed Jesus’ teachings) told the Jewish officials “Our law does not judge a man before it hears from him, does it?”? So sad and discouraging that today’s believers are quick to call their own conspiracy theorists without taking time at all to listen to facts.
But I digress.
“Be wise as serpents but innocent as doves”
“The wisdom of the prudent is to understand his way”
“Do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits”
“Work out your salvation with fear and trembling”
“But when these things happen, look up, for your redemption draws near”
“There is a way which seems right to a man, but the end result thereof is death”
Polly,
Can empathize with your situation, have a similar one with the congregation that I attend. Appears that 85% have gotten vexed. Many that should have more smarts but alas no reasoning ability.
Appreciated your six admonitions.
POLLY:
I have been floored the most by my friends who are believers. They tell me they did their research before getting the jab, I politely ask them what exactly their research entailed and they either become defensive and then dismiss the question or they say they read information available on Facebook or their Doctor told them it was safe and effective. Not ONE read anything that said the vaccine was not safe. I had one who told me that the vaccine was rigorously tested just like other vaccines, I said how could it have been since we are less than a year and half into covid, and most vaccines are tested for 5 to 7 years before being brought to market, she just stared at me. Since you are a student of the Bible I just recently learned that the Greek word for sorcery as used in the book of Revelations is PHARMAKEIA!
I believe people, especially older people (maybe?), are getting the jab because they trust their doctors. Their reasoning is that doctors are the experts about medicine and know more about this than they do, so they follow their advice.
They also probably still trust the CDC and other government officials, even if they believe the election was stolen. They think government agencies (because of laws and liability and all that) still have their best interests at heart. They do not realize that the agencies, many doctors, and other “health officials” no longer care about the law (and neither do the courts) and no longer care about people’s health but, instead, are only concerned about forwarding their own agenda.
Be patient with these people–our shift in worldview about these things didn’t happen overnight. There’s won’t either, and, in fact, if done too quickly, can cause severe depression.
Thank you for the sound advise and I agree with you. I have found some in my friend group and family who do not want to face the truth about what is happening and I suspect it is because to do so would be just too much for them to handle.
I told the witch-doctor…..
Whoseyore:
Psalm 139:16
Your eyes saw my unformed body; all the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be.
I too believe God is protecting those who belong to Him.
Draw near to Him and He will draw near to you, Polly.
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
If you are going to take a stand on the hill…choose another destination than Aruba…
Yeah, well we don’t attend church because most church goers couldn’t locate any of the verses you quoted. There is a dedicated love of man’s word and a studied disregard of God’s Word. I don’t want to be part of that group.
Ephesians 4 tells us what the purpose of the leaders are in the congregation. Guess what are they training the saints of to the full measure of love to do the work of the church ?
CS Lewis in Abolition of Man (copy-write in 1946) said we create men without chests and then expect them to act with virtue and honor.
The failure of most congregations is that they take in these “men without chests” when they have finally bent the knee of the heart to Jesus but them fail to train them up to that full measure of love which includes renewing the mind so we don’t think like the world.
This. Is. Not. A. “Vaccine.”
A vaccine exposes your immune system to a sample of dead or attenuated virus so that you now recognize it – which is called, “immunity.”
These potions, which have never been tried before and which are not “approved,” cause your body to produce a pathogen. But then, your immune system destroys the cells that are producing it … no matter what nor where they are. Easily the cells that are most likely to take it up are the epithelial cells which make up the walls of your arteries and veins. But it could also be taken up by the platelets of your blood. Or any other vital organ. Or your muscles. Or even your skin.
This is the obvious reason why one young woman’s feet and hands rotted.
Vaccines are not whats needed. Exorcisms are whats needed .
That and people have to be held liable for all of the side effects. It’s the only language politicians, companies and universities speak- money.
My Brother got his shot a few days ago, and im praying out of my mind for him.
Though through questioning, it doesnt sound like hes had any of the side effects others have told me that they have had.
There is a resistance here in Australia, Nurses, distribution staff and the makers of the vaccines themselves. Im really hoping he got a saline injection.
The tyrants are accelerating the blitzkrieg:
https://thelibertydaily.com/it-begins-boston-court-takes-custody-of-biotech-executives-14-year-old-child-to-force-vaccination-against-parents-wishes/
Reminiscent of similar adolescent sex change issues. You have no right to raise your kids if you disagree with the mainstream.
In Washington State schools can administer testosterone to your thirteen year old daughter not only without parental consent but also without notice.
That’s why our daughters moved to ldaho and charter or parochial schools.
This is not about a virus.
This is war. Has been since this started.
World War Xi.
The important comparison I have not seen by those raising the migrating spike protein alert is vaccine vs. actual COVID infection.
(Perhaps it’s there and I just missed it, in which case I’m eager to be educated.)
Because obviously SARS-Cov-2 also invades cells, and its mRNA causes production of the entire spike protein. In fact the entire virus is reproduced, spike protein and all.
So is it the case that the vaccines’ spike protein can enter the circulatory system, where it can land on ACE2 receptors throughout the body (or simply clog up capillaries with its rough surface), but the actual virus cannot?
Put another way, if the vaccine’s spike migration risk is being measured only against that of non-infection, that would seem an important detail to include. If migration via the vaccine is worse than that of the virus itself, that detail would likewise be helpful.
Just from memory I think you might check Dr. Byrum Bridle. Dr. Robert Malone may also have commented. There are others but cannot recall them right now. Dr. McCullough perhaps?
From what I have been able to figure out the virus uses the ACE2 receptor to enter your cells where it then geometrically replicates.
Ivermectin blocks this ACE 2 connection. Second Ivermectin inside the cell also prevents the virus from disabling your cells emergency alarm that its being highjacked, speeding your immune systems reaction time, plus interferes with the rate of virus replication rate itself.
Absent a strong immune system and without ivermectin the virus eventually fully saturates your body causing micro clotting, cell death, and inflammation. The very same problems we see with the spike proteins of the clot shot. Imagine getting trillions of tiny microscopic wood slivers throughout your body.
Ivermectin though blocks the same ACE2 receptor that the spike by itself also uses to attach to our cells, most importantly in cells that make up our capillaries where they cause micro clots, oxygen starvation, cell death and inflammation.
The mystery to me is why everyone doesn’t have the same experience? I have to think its a combination of poor quality control
(some get more poison, some less) interacting with their overall existing tissue health level and immune system strength.
For example a perfectly healthy 12 year old dying of heart attack could be the result of poor quality control, he received 10x what he should have, BTW I recommend 0x. Come to think of it, do the even reduce the dose level for your body size?
On the other hand you have someone that already has serious heart problems and even low dose pushes him over the edge. This is why its very likely given what we know that even people that have taken it and are ‘fine’ could expect to see health issues that only those much older typically have.
Another factor, is how much of the poison escapes your arm muscles and how fast. What if one shot goes into the deep lower blood flow portion of the arm and another shot goes straight into major vein or artery and spreads rapidly through you body.
Some people may also be naturally better at producing spike proteins from the jab.
We just don’t know at this point. All for something that has similar death profile of the seasonal flu.
One of the major differences is how your immune systems responds to the whole virus. It tunes T-cell against at least four different polypeptides (protein fragments) on four different portions of the protein coat. The vax only stimulates against the spike protein. It is why natural immunity is stronger than vaxxed immunity.
As to your actual question a natural infection generally first occurs in the epithelial cells of the upper respiratory tract. The immune system is brought to bare and generally keeps it isolated to that area. In the worst cases it gets into the lower respiratory tract and into the blood in which case you get the same affects as the vaccine.
With the vaccine you are guaranteed to get it into the blood stream and thus distributed to all the organs. With a natural infection most cases do not progress to that level of involvement.
The dirty little secret is that other respiratory viruses can do similar things to organs if they get into the circulatory system via the lower respiratory tract (lungs)
That’s why Dr. Richard Bartlett promotes the use of Budesonide via a nebulizer. Reduces the inflammation in the lower part of the lungs. He even tells of a lady who came off of a ventilator and recovered because her husband demanded the use of the Budesonide. I have a good friend who is just getting over covid and it was the Budesonide (via a nebulizer) that put her on the road to recovery.
All we (those who want the truth) have to do to prove the people criticizing the vaccine is get X number of doctors to get x number of vaccinated individuals to have a blood test, a d dimer to see if they have microclotting.
I watched a video a month ago by a practicing doctor who had many patients come to him post-vaccine and say, “I just don’t feel well.”
The powers that be tried to appease us after word of people developing clots broke, but they only took imaging tests to find the BIG CLOTS.
The d-dimer tests will show not where there is clotting but IF there is clotting. This doc ran those tests and something like one-third or half (don’t recall) of his patients showed d-dimer positive tests.
ON them, he ran further testing and found micro-clotting. He maintains that the middle aged and older will die in 1-3 years from plaque in the vessels.
I think you are referring to Dr. Hoffe- here is his discussion on bitchute- super scary stuff
https://www.bitchute.com/video/mZHA2u71pBwk/
This may interest you, look it up and come to your own conclusions:
Watch for the continuing rise in the sale of anticoagulants (blood clots).
Sales of Eliquis are going through the roof!! Pfizer and Bristol-Myers co-developed Eliquis, an anticoagulant, they share revenues from the drug.
Pfzer sales of Eliquis up 16% for this past quarter ending 6-30-21
Bristol Myers sales of Eliquis up a whopping 29% ($600,000,000+) for this past quarter ending report (6-30-21) over last year’s same quarter.
Can you say Blood clots?
Bristol Myers – Bristol Myers Squibb – Bristol Myers Squibb Reports Second Quarter Financial Results for 2021 (bms.com)
Very interesting. I’ve wondered if perhaps part of the larger plan by big pharma and their benefactors was to trigger a cascade of costly health problems via the “jabs,” thus ensuring a never-ending need for doctor visits, diagnostic tests, and, of course, drugs, drugs and more drugs.
Eliquis is expensive!
It was around 63-64% tested positive for clotting on the D Dimer test.
Sundance Thank you for such a thoughtful article! ( as always!) Dr. Cole’s video was just awesome. It really brought home the failings of the experimental “not-a-vaccine”. I noted on previous posts I did indeed get the 2 Moderna shots back in Feb-Mar. At the time I thought I made the correct choice. Now after hearing about all the bad effects on the human body I would have said no the the shots. I am taking high doses of Vitamin D, C & zinc in the hope of staving off any bad reaction/conditions that may come from the jabs. Since the shots don’t work, looks like now all of us–vaxed or not need to pray for God to protect us from getting the Covid. BTW that picture of our President Trump & Dr. Fauxi– his look at the gnome says it all.
Add quercetin & NAC to your supplements. And get ivermectin if you can. I’m in Canada,and it’s next to impossible here. Quercetin is somewhat of a substitute.
Or you can make your own quinine (same as Quercetin and a little weaker than hydroxy).
There are other articles on the net that give you dosage. You only need a bit. Don’t take with Q or Hyd. This is needed to facilitate entry of zinc into cells.
https://godskingdom.org/blog/2020/08/homemade-hcq-quinine
There’s a photo somewhere of President Trump at the Alfred E. Smith dinner a few years ago and he has that same look directed at Hillary Clinton.
This website went from a great place with real truth-based information to a horror show of stupidity. Neither Sundance nor anybody commenting here it knows anything about vaccines RNA or normal or the immune system or statistics or anything else; it’s just hideous to come here and read though it’s just dumb and crazy people. Please just stop it! none of you people know anything medical. I used to come here all the time for actually accurate information about Russia gate. And I can’t come here at all anymore. I get dumber when I come here.
refute something stated in the article.
(nothing you said I can even comment on, because it lacks statistics or anything else in the response)
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help me understand why we are crazy or stupid.
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i need you to understand something very clearly. We did a EUA for the experimental try to NOT OVERWHELM OUR HOSPITALS. every move we did was to NOT OVERWHELM OUR HOSPITALS. It had NOTHING to do with supporting the marketing of a vaccine forever.
Did the hospitals EVER attempt to give ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine to any patients early on?
I think that would be a big NO. In fact they Pooh poohed it all day everyday instead of embracing these Therapuetics while hundreds/thousands died.
The hospitals were just as politicized as the CDC, the FIB, the DOJ and every agency in our government.
BF, I’m surprised you didn’t remember the $$ hospitals received for admitting CoVid patients and the $$$$ they received if patients died from COvid (or motorcycles).
Don’t feed the trolls.
Just flag them as such for all to see and move on.
Blood pressure will improve
Dawg, please share accurate information about vaccines, RNA, the immune system, and statistics. What are we missing?
<Dawg, please share accurate information…>
Dawg can’t do that Jeff, because he said he’s not coming here anymore.
Such a shame.
Super bummer.
You’ve never found the uncontaminated studies on hydroxychloroquine. You’ve not read how successful it is as a therapeutic. I’ve already posted some in this thread. Look.
I’ve worked in the medical and clinical field since 2005. Your writing suggests education without intelligence. It’s easier to fool someone than it is to convince them they’ve been fooled. Peace be with you mutt.
And there are a lot of people who have gotten the vaccine with zero reactions or side effects. If all of those chimed in and said that would any of you change your mind? OK then, stop telling us about all the bad without the vastly larger good.
I believe I saw last week 200k or so reactions with some deaths but there have been 150 million shots.
Would any of you stop driving because my cousin got hit and crushed under a big truck? Didn’t think so.
VAERS reports about 1% of the cases of harm caused by the vaccine, so there’s that. Also the spike protein is attracted to ACE-2 receptors in the epithelial cells that line vessels. This can cause tiny blood clots that impede healthy blood flow leading to death from heart failure. Based upon d-dimer tests at least 30% of the vaxxed test positive for this. Who knows what other injuries are lurking around the corner for the vaxxed. Glad I’m not one.
The jab doesn’t work, so why risk side effects on something worthless?
Make that zero reactions or side effects…so far. Watch for increased susceptibility to a whole host of medical conditions that will not necessarily be directly connected to this ersatz vaccine as well as a reduced life expectancy.
If the media would stop blocking reported experiences of side effects, then people would be free to garner the full scope of information – the good and bad (side effects) – and then be able to make a truly informed decision. When information that can determine one’s life, or death, is kept hidden natural skepticism gets a strong foothold.
Side effects exist, they can be deadly, so with no open acknowledgement or societal discussion for people to freely share experiences that may lead to learning who might be vulnerable this game of pretending they don’t exist, and can be deadly, screams political stagecraft, and not a beneficial one.
Attitudes change when a loved one dies from a ‘vaccine’ side-effect knowing that loved one had no idea death could be the result. That the majority of the people who receive these inoculations may not have any side-effects is wonderful, but that in no way diminishes the risk that these inoculations scream the partakers are playing a dangerous game of russian roulette.
We wouldn’t try to force someone else to drive or not drive.
Let everyone make their own decision.
Y’all can’t seem to do that
Tell us how Orange Man hurt you.
Go home to mommy!
Regretting the shot huh?
Then don’t come here.
Problem solved. For all of us.
“None of you know anything medical”? And how do you know this? Posters do not usually list their professional accreditations, ie MD, DO, PA, NP, etc. It sounds more to me like you are worried because you took the mRNA shot. Millions did the same thinking it was the right thing to do at the time. Millions more took a “wait and see” approach as they saw through the ShamDemic from the get go.
You should definitely stop coming here for sure.
Us dummies don’t deserve to get lectured by someone as smart as you.
But yet, here you are.
My guess is you did not watch the video Sundance linked by a respected doctor who runs his own diagnostic lab and knows a thing or two about health, vaccines, RNA, the immune system and statistics.
Bye
You are welcome to leave and as you do, please be sure to share all of your wisdom and insight.
Okay, so why are you here, then? No sarc. It’s a serious question.
I am sorry you are being presented with information that conflicts with your opinions. Perhaps you would be more comfortable in the echo chamber over on Huffington Post, or the Daily Beast, or Facebook or really anywhere else on the internet. There have been NUMEROUS MEDICAL DOCTORS, PATHOLOGISTS, IMMUNOLOGISTS, etc. who are quite knowledgable who/interviews have been posted to this website and I for one am very grateful for that information. Why would you want that stopped? Are you saying the doctor’s video who was posted along with this article by Sundance is a liar? A kook? Dumb? Crazy? The Mayo Clinic doctor not smart enough for you?! Maybe it isn’t coming here that has made you dumb but your terrible attitude toward anything that conflicts with your opinion.
And to think Delhi reduced their cases by 90% in 5 days once they began giving Ivermectin out to everyone who could take it.
Now imagine how many more people world wide would still be alive had the Health leadership not Pooh poohed hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin as early treatment Therapuetics.
Instead of immediate care for the elderly and sick they chose to wait until the vaccine was ready.
Now we have the vaccine and now we have a rise in cases with many scientific experts saying the new variants are actually coming from the vaccinated.
Again, would the world be in the problem it is had the health leadership embraced hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin back in Feb 2020?
I think not and maybe that was the plan all along.
Time to get the communications!
Yes, yes, yes. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I wasn’t an anti- vaxxer but I am now. After what I’ve seen with Covid and the people involved with pushing this vaccine, I no longer trust them. They are already introducing mRNA flu shots. No more vaccinations of any kind for me.
Same here. I can see I was too trusting of the FDA before this plandemic. My eyes are opened now.
Covid-19 natural immunity compared to vaccine-induced immunity: The definitive summary
6 Aug 2021
By Sharyl Attkisson
https://sharylattkisson.com/2021/08/covid-19-natural-immunity-compared-to-vaccine-induced-immunity-the-definitive-summary
“The real problem is to define when human life is worth living and when it has to be eradicated.”
Josef Mengele
” Skynet decided our fate in a micro-second , extermination ! ” – Kyle Reese
The Terminator
Thank you Sundance for posting the Rumble link to Dr. Cole’s slide presentation and speech. As you said it is difficult for conservatives who have not succumbed to the peer pressure and fear porn about the virus/mRNA jab. My senior neighbor got the shot and not long after was hospitalized 10 days for pericarditis, blood clots, and pneumonia. He came home a week and back into the ICU on a ventilator where he died a few days later. I do not think the neighbor’s family gets the connection to the shot. Another good friend of ours was diagnosed with Covid and still got the vaccine. She is now having serious lung issues which she never had before in her life. Both these people match exactly what Dr. Cole said could happen as a result of the spike protein inflammation.
SD,
May I suggest that if possible you always post on Rumble?
Personally I am done with YouTube unless it is to see parts of my favorite movies. And several posts on here I find were later deleted by YouTube.
Its a weaning process for sure, but worth it my brother. Just a suggestion if you can swing it.
The longer it goes the happier we are we didn’t take it.
White House Refuses to Endorse Vaccine Mandate for Migrants Released into U.S.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/08/07/white-house-refuses-endorse-vaccine-mandate-migrants-released-us/
But if youre a US citizen returning from a foreign country, the vax mandate still stands. Joebama wants to destroy the US starting with more mandates as the illegals create an increase in the numbers of infected. Lockdowns on the horizon? You betcha for at least the blue states.
Let’s see……..
1) Migrants better know as illegal aliens don’t have to take the rape shot.
2) The CDC employees don’t have to take the rape shot
3) All military men and wome MUST take the rape shot
4) All healthcare workers except CDC workers MUST take the rape shot
5) Now all people in NYC MUST take the rape shot
6) And many companies are forcing employees to take the rape shot
Hmmm……..
So Fauci and crew who funded the Gain of Function research which led to the great virus escape gets rewarded by not having to take the rape shot
And all illegal aliens who may be carrying in and spreading the virus get rewarded by not having to take the rape shot.
Anyone see a pattern here?
I see the globalists saving those who will do their bidding and work for slave wages, while getting rid of those they don’t need.
They need everyone out of Manhattan so they can buy up the real estate on the cheap. So those residents are mandated for the injections to get them out of the way.. Slave laborers, however, get a pass.
Only 10 years ago..
” They Live ” was a prophetic movie
So was “Idiocracy”.
Actually, more and more I’m inclined to see “V” as a possibility for where we’re at:)
Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled. – Mark Twain
The first front is to educate people that haven’t taken the jab but are on the fence.
The second front is to tell people that have taken the jab and have serious problems their are various off label medications that have been proven safe for decades that might help them.
The third front is to educate people that are being forced to take the jab, that the medications above will help prepare their body for the clot shot attack. Ivermectin is known to block the spike protein (of both the jab and virus) to attach to the ACE 2 receptor of your cells.
Most important is to convince parents that they must protect their chikdren
I agree but if the Parents have already taken the jab you most likely need to penetrate everything that Sundance wrote about in order to save them. Not any easy task, but when it comes to kids, who clearly can’t have informed consent its a battle worth fighting for given what is at stake.
Still an outsider trying to tell parents how to raise their kids is hard enough; let alone when the parents shut down and won’t admit that they may have made a serious error themselves.
That’s why if the deed is done its best to focus on testing to see if their is damage and treatments.
As I have said in other posts the quality control could be really bad with these mRNA jabs. It could be they all got lucky and received very little of the poison.
They aren’t keeping them that cold because they like the expense. Its what they had to do to keep the poison active. My guess is that you want the one that has been sitting out at room temperature the longest. Just a guess though.
You never know some pharmacist may be throwing this stuff in the microwave before the dispense it.
I had a very hard time keeping my mouth shut when a coworker announced she was taking her 12 yo daughter to get an injection because her school was pushing it. Mom had already been injected. I knew she wouldn’t listen.
Completely agree with SD about not trying to have a discussion with ‘The Vaccinated‘ as they are not receptive to critical thinking.
Only 5 years ago we had another ‘big issue’ that was dividing family and friends, people being unfollowed on Facebook, relatives no longer being invited for Holiday Dinner…That happened after the election of President Donald Trump.
At this point if somebody starts pushing the vaccine to me, I’m just going to look at them and say, ‘The power of Christ compels you, the power of Christ compels you‘. ?
“Completely agree with SD about not trying to have a discussion with ‘The Vaccinated‘ as they are not receptive to critical thinking.”
Huh. Guess I’ll go back and re-read SD’s article, because that was not one of my take-aways.
Rather, I thought the emphasis was on empathy – from and for both the vaxed and unvaxxed.
I wish they would have empathy for me and my children. But they all seem to be waiting for their green passes so they can go back to enjoying their lives, without so much as a thought to our plight as the shunned.
The problem is what the mRNA is doing when creating spike proteins. Doctors are now finding that this leads to clogging blood capillaries and microscopic blood clots. The condition is called Pulmonary Artery Hypertension. Those capillaries that bring blood to the lungs become clogged and the person loses oxygenation and becomes short of breath. There are other problems as this can affect the brain and heart as well. This is a good reason to not get additional boosters if you have already been vaccinated.
Here is a website and video in which Pulmonary Artery Hypertension is explained. The D-dimer test can detect the level of blood clotting in a patient.
Link to article and video Citizen’s Free Press – Dr. Charles Hoffe warns on endothelial damage to blood vessels — Microscopic blood clots… 9:17
https://citizenfreepress.com/column-1/dr-charles-hoffe-issues-vaccine-warning/
Good point. Once a person accepts the vaccine, that decision is irreversible. I suspect that, at that point, there is really little to be gained by discussing reasons not to get the vax.
Lou Maria, will you share who you know in SEA? I asked my internist last week for a prescription for Ivermectin . She told me in good conscience that she couldn’t prescribe it and began railing on me that I had to get the vaccine. Am in need of a physician in the area who has not succumbed to the rot and in a city this liberal it’s like hunting for a needle in the proverbial haystack.
https://covid19criticalcare.com/ivermectin-in-covid-19/how-to-get-ivermectin/
Thank you so much for posting that, Miles.
They were indoctrinated to follow the propaganda disguised as science.
Employer Mandated COVID-19 Vaccine: Exemptions for Employees Including Veganism…. Can employers terminate an individual’s employment for not taking the jab? READ THIS Now and SHARE!!…
https://www.conservativebusinessjournal.com/2021/08/employer-mandated-vaccine-exemptions/
Confronting mortality is life biggest challenge. Covid (hysteria) now asks people to face this immortal human task, that was often the origin of the world’s great religions.
It is not about “covid”. Covid is only a surrogate. The hysteria is the difficult journey accepting one’s own mortality.
Vaccines, masks, shunning, banning – all totems to ward against this existential fear.
America needs a spiritual vaccine – not an experimental dirty physical one.
Can’t argue facts, when the existential driver is fear of one’s own mortality.
The better question is: How have you made peace with the fact you will someday die?
This.
Because two of the people most opposed to hearing about my views on the experimental gene therapy jab, social distancing, etc. are pro-life Republican Trump supporters who share the same religious views I do.
What makes these two people different from me is that they’re about twenty years older and have health issues that I don’t.
I appreciate Sundances pointing out the psychological “human nature” aspects of attempting to debate on the Vax, and other issues.
I have recently percieved another psychological, human nature aspect, after having debates with a neighbor, on many issues including Civid.
Its about “disillusionment”; firstly, in order to have disillusionment, you first need an illusion.
Two universal, key aspects to illusion and disillusionment.
The first is, if you percieve someone living under an illusion, no amount of words or logic will pursuade them to abandon their illusion.
Think of the married person, the “last to know”, living under the illusion their spouse is faithful.
As a friend, you become aware the spouse is being unfaithful,…do you tell?
No, if you do they will call you a lier, and break off the friendship, and you won’t be there to help them, when some time down the road they walk in on their spouse in flagrante.
Secondly, once they have (and this applies to ALL incidents of disillusionment) once this has happened, and they experienced disillusionment, they can’t “unsee” what they have seen, or unknow what they know.
So, more broadly if someone is under illusions that the 2020 election was the freeest and securist election in history, or that Fauci knows what he is talking about, etc,…
There is no way, no amount of words that will convinced them they are under an illusion.
And, as you have experienced disillusionment, there is similarly no amount of words or logic, that will cause you to unsee what you have seen, or unknow what you know.
Disillusionment is a narrow, one way door. Each has to go through it on their own, and for themselves.
You can’t push or pull them through it, and they will adamantly, aggressively resist any such attempt.
And, its a one-way door; much as you might like to, you can’t go back to “the way it was”.
The lament of the disillusioned;
“If only I didn’t know NOW, what I didn’t know then!”
Finally, BECAUSE those living under an illusion, desperately want to cling to that illusion, ANY words or actions on your part, that even peripherally challenge their illusions, will trigger this strong responce.
This is why those who choose not to get vaccinated, are attacked bythe vaccinated. Its why ANY suggestion to audit the election results is attacked.
Hence, the disillusioned, recognising the futility of trying to persuade the illusioned may strive to adopt a “live and let live” approach.
However, those still under illusion, as an aspect of denial, cannot accept such an approach.
Simply knowing that some (the disillusioned) exists, is threatening.
Hence, my neighbor can not, and will not “agree to disagree” and “drop it” despite my willingness to do so.
Every time we have an encounter, he revisits the same issues, thinking he can persuade me.
He so WANTS to believe the medical establishments primary priority is our health, whereas I know its not even on the list.
He wants to believe the NIH and CDC “guidelines” are for our collective wellbeing.
He wants to believe the 2020 election was valid,..
To believe otherwise is simply too terrifying,..
These illusions we WANT to believe, have the solidity of mountains; we could climb them, and stand atop.
Once disillusioned, we realise they have no more substance than clouds in the sky.
But, the disillusioned can NOT, thru words or logic, persuade those functioning under illusion, any more than the illusioned can persuade the disillusioned.
All the talking, articles, commentary, citing of facts and logic in the world can’t change that immutable reality.
Your excellent post here further narrows down what Tomas Schuman was describing when he spoke of demoralization of a society. When you speak of illusioned people, what I see is people so demoralized, that in their attempt to grasp something real, they are willing to accept as fact, things that would otherwise seem irrational. The invisible man in the sky argument liberals use to mock God/religion for instance. The Disillusioned are those that, “have seen the strings” as Sundance puts it. The great comedian George Carlin must have been in this group, he said “Question Everything.” People living in a state of illusion do not question, that is the problem.
Now this brings us to critical thinking and why our education system is in the state it is.
Wonderful insight.
It is hard to let go of an illusion when it forms one of the 3 foundational pillars of one’s life. They’re world, their life, would never be the same, so they will hang on for dear life to not let it be upturned.
Dutch,
Have your neighbor listen to to the Dr Hooker recordings, lead cdc scientist admitting they hid data showing link to autism and black male babies with the mmr. Admitting, while under congressional investigation the department head had them shred docs. She later went on to work for…?
Bet you can guess.
Those are provable facts.
HAHAHAHA!
Covid Outbreak Hits Carnival Cruise Despite Every Guest and Staff Member Being ‘Vaccinated’
by JD Rucker
August 5, 2021
Per CDC the vaccinated are infecting EVERYONE.
Maybe they contracted Covid from a mango.
Those that lose their lives, shall gain it, and those that save their lives, shall lose it. If you know what this statement means, there’s hope for you.
Ooh. That is deep. So those who are murdered in cold blood will find salvation in Heaven because God has mercy for the innocents. And those who “look away” to save their own earthly lives will suffer eternal damnation in the hereafter.
Makes sense. So how do I live my life here without throwing anybody else under the bus?
It really is pretty simple how the battle between VAXED and UNVAXED will be decided.
If we are right possibly within 3 -4 months there should be a huge increase in VAXED people either dying or having some serious health issues to the point that it is becoming obvious.
If they are right then we should see massive deaths coming from the unvaxed people over the next 3-4 months.
But the reality is IMO a huge portion of the unvaxed have been taking Vit D, Vit C, Zinc and Quercetin for awhile now and may even have a supply of hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin on the ready if they come down with something serious so the unvaxed most likely won’t die since 99.95% recover under 65 easily.
So if you are the left you know this so what do you do?
Demand everyone gets the rape shot so the results won’t be obvious as there will only be one group, the rape shot group.
Sound familiar? it should as this is exactly what they did with the people in the clinical trial. They contaminated the control group so going forward there is NO CONTROL Groups.
Who does that, especially on an experimental, never before used technology (mRNA) in humans before?
I think we know the answer.
“view from the moon”…….
after the Russia-gate hoax
after the take down of General Flynn
after the corruption of the FISA court
after the stealing of the 11/3/20 election
after all the purposeful censorship
after the betrayal by Pence especially as the head of “corona task force”
after the set-up of American patriots on 1/6/21
WHY WHY would we believe these evil psychopaths?
My words exactly. Don’t these people use their brains?????
A very compelling video. Everybody should watch this.
How the narrative has changed. Here take this, so you won’t get as sick if you get the virus (not saying that is true) from here’s a vaccine that prevents you from getting sick. It’s supposed benefit is now what a therapeutic does.
Yep. As predicted…
https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2021/08/07/delta-plus-covid-variant-detected-san-francisco-bay-area/
“Delta-plus is not the end of the story. Until more of us get vaccinated we’re going to have these reports of weird other Greek letters and combinations of Greek letters — we might even run out of the Greek alphabet,” Dr. Chin-Hong said.”
It wouldn’t stop even if everyone were vaccinated. They will keep using bogeyman variants to move the goal posts. Because they can.
To my fellow lab rats, guinea pigs, monkeys and sheeple. Follow the science. You have a right to choose . It’s time for pitch forks, torches, tar and feathers and rope .
BREAKING: CDC NOT MANDATING ITS EMPLOYEES TO BE VAXED
https://rumble.com/vktt26-cdc-does-not-mandate-covid-19-vaccine-for-employees.html
https://creativedestructionmedia.com/investigations/2021/08/07/breaking-cdc-not-mandating-its-employees-to-be-vaxed/