Jovan Pulitzer is helping with forensic election audits in Arizona & Georgia and is attempting to assist people in Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania to do the same.
Appearing on the Pete Santilli podcast, former Michigan State Senator Patrick Colbeck and Jovan Pulitzer get into a heated debate about the weak effort in Michigan. Things get salty and F-bombs fly as Pulitzer is very passionate about audits. [Rumble Link Here] If you don’t have time for the entire discussion, skip to the 24:00 minute mark and watch from there. [Salty Language Alert – Don’t watch this with kids around.]
In addition to being a former state senator, Patrick Colbeck is a former aerospace engineer while Jovan Pulitzer is an expert in forensic election auditing. The heat of the debate surrounds doing an audit of a part of the vote or doing an audit of the full vote in either a selected Michigan county or the entire state of Michigan. Pulitzer is passionate, but tends to take the long way to the eventual point.
[Ask me why I don’t watch podcasts, and I give you back the same answer Dennis Miller once gave the ever-rambling Hannity…. “Sean, is there a gas station between me and the end of this question, because I’m running on fumes right now“… ]
Anything that causes Demonic Pedo Democrats night sweats is good for me. And they’re ugly. There a few good looking ones. Thats what demonic possession does to humans…makes them ugly. They so ugly thier mommas wanted them baptized but the priest had to do an exorcism first. It didnt work.
So ugly when they were born the Dr. slapped their momma!
She has the biggest head, the most huge forehead I’ve ever seen on a female of the species.
Odd-looking.
Also, since she came into the public eye, I read her face become “stone-like” since she had some work done, botox, I believe.
Oh come on, ugly? Gretchen’s kind of hot in an evil queen, Cruella de Ville sort of way. I think she really missed her calling. She could’ve starred in a string of Disney hits, with her image haunting millions of children’s nightmares year after year, while the royalties pour in.
Buddy take off the beer goggles.
Two Lone Stars. That’s my limit. Haven’t woke up on the wrong side of the bed since I set it.
Uglier than home made sin!
Needs that streak of gray hair, Lily Munster style………..
For the most part you can place a Demorat female or male next to a conservative female or male and 99% of the time you can pick who is who.
That’s what mental illness does to people it brings their Fugly to the surface.
The new push from the left will be “we need to audit every county”. The idea is to bog everything down
Phil:
It’s hard not to suspect we’re being played and hustled at every turn.
The sky is blue and the 2020 election was fake.
The Mueller investigation, the Durham report, now these audits that will go on for many years.
Make Tick Tock Hannity the grand high poobah of audits. He’ll go on the air every night and promise the audit results will be announced any minute now. Til the end of time..
Hopefully, at some point, court rulings will replace vacuous headlines.
I have another idea:
That the GOPe has been cheating too, and the Democrats know this because they were in bed together.
Exposure of one exposes the other.
It’s a veiled threat to take the GOPe down if Democrats go down.
Guaranteed.
To assume otherwise would be beyond credibility.
I doubt it. That’s their nightmare scenario. FL2000 was 3 corrupt Democrat counties.
They’ll use Lawfare, and count on SCOTUS to save them.
Maybe I am just too stupid to understand a simple question: How would a State go about investigating it’s electoral integrity of a presidential election so that it’s citizens would have high confidence in voting integrity, that being defined as one man one vote, one accurate counting of the legal votes, and one assembly of all votes where a true winner is declared and is easily verified for all?
Seems to me those who shout the loudest (when over 40% of it’s State voters sense fraud) against such a thorough audit, a transparent audit, or those who do his/her best to thwart such a complete audit have something to hide or deny from the general public, the voting public, it’s citizens who they swore to represent.
The means justify the end or the end justifies the means…this is the game being played.
I note the vast number of scumbags that have been elected to office in this country, including this clown Colbeck!
Being a resident of Michigan, I absolutely believe the 40% is more like 55%. Who did that poll? What was the ratio of democrats, republicans, and independents? I would bet my dogs ????? that it is another poll stacked with democrats
Rasmussen, who usually tracks a bit left, found 55% support audits.
After the Nov. election many Americans felt that the election had been stolen, although few people believed that anything could be done about. There was a pervasive sense of resignation: Biden was president and that was it. That was certainly what establishment Democrats and Republicans (see the National Review) kept telling us.
The Arizona audit has changed everything with the result that national public opinion is changing. One result is that, more and more states are finding the political will to actually empirically examine voting results that were plainly visible but intentionally ignored.
What we’re now seeing form is a pathway that will demonstrate for the nation that the election was indeed stolen and that there are wholesale numbers of illegally cast ballots to prove it.
Steve Bannon today said that we will have our own “long march” through the 2020 elections—examining not only the presidential election, but also the various state elections. Those emerging illegal ballots also voted for other candidates. Every improperly elected official currently in office must be identified. There is a growing public opinion that supports this. This has never happened before. It should happen now. The legitimacy of our government demands this.
It also has everything to do with control of the Senate.
This is a great interview. It’s long, but the highlights are at 20 minutes (listen 2 minutes), 40 minutes (listen about 2), and 49.30 (listen about 5).
https://rumble.com/vjt3pj-math-wars-we-have-the-plans-to-the-dominion-death-star..html
Thanks
No, never had a sense of resignation, except perhaps Nov 4 (“did they really outvote us?”) but by Thursday morning 11/5, was fully engaged in the fight, all aspects.
Bannon’s great rant / pep talk that morning was a good shot in the arm – about how we owe it to the past Patriots who fought & died to get us to today. Such as the 18-year-olds dying at Normandy who didn’t even have the right to vote.
No, it has been fight and never stop and cold anger all the way.
It’s almost better this way because we KNOW we won. If they truly outvoted us, then THAT would be discouraging.
Hugh Hewitt said some cr@p around the time of the Usurper’s illegitimate inauguration. About a Trump speech that was “statesmanlike” – “oh if he behaved that way during the campaign he would still be waking up at 1600 PA Ave” – such a thought is wrong and all those who keep claiming “political business as usual” like “which demographics we lost” or “we really need to donate more, call more, knock on more doors, get out more votes” blah blah.
I REJECT any such talk or attitude. It’s complete B.S. that we “didn’t do enough” and it’s poison to believe or accept this. No, we actually WON this thing. In fact, we blew the doors off it. It was stolen thru massive fraud, plain and simple. Let’s start acting like it.
This is the hill to die on. Because everything else depends on it – border, economy, CRT, corona, etc.
Illegitimate usurpers have pushed too far. Never accept it & be discouraged. Prepare, pray, inform others. Steel ourselves to the struggle.
I have a very, very serious, sober, straight arrow, much older brother. He’s the image and character of a Christian man, great father, husband. He’s 70 years old this year and never talks politics. Keeps his opinions to himself and even he said out loud…. He believes it was stolen. And I couldn’t tell you which side he’s on. He may be an old southern dem, or a staunch GOPer. I’ve never known. But he does believe there was theft. That’s when I knew the ‘average’ voter out there was as angry as those of us watching so closely.
I got through 47 minutes of this video just to stop it in disgust at the lack of respect either speaker showed the other. Did anyone watch who could give us the Cliff Notes?
Start with the first comment and work your way down.
Voilà
The Michigan Rinos have been terrible. They all need to be primaried.
Surely you jest. A Democrat dropping the F bomb. I’m shocked. Shocked I tell you!!
Jovan says this Freshmen bill gives cover to NV PA – fractional.
Yes, I’d like to understand that more. But maybe they’ll rewrite the bill now.
The original bill that Colbeck and the other Rep. assembled was for only a fraction of MI counties because they understood that only $2.5M was available for the audit and at unit cost of $3 per vote (as determined by AZ experience) they knew they didnt have enough to do the entire state. BUT…Pultizer then corrected the budgetary assumption to say that in actuality MI has $20M to do an audit – he was blaming Colbeck for not knowing the correct budget available.
Anyway, the original bill that was limited scope because of the (wrongly assumed) limited budget would give cover (as precedence) to RINOs in other states who could use cost as an excuse to only do a fractional audit. The problem is that everyone knows those corrupt RINOs would pick a known CLEAN county or counties (in NV and PA) so that the results would be “See, no fraud here. Case closed.”
sounded like the Patrick guy was trying to say the 2 Million was an error and the bill is stuck now, but they have a 20 million amendment that will definitely come in later so trust him (hope, result never comes same play over and over).
jovan said fck that – your bill is weak.
Yes that’s pretty accurate. Jovan really didn’t say precisely what made the bill “weak”. I didn’t like that at all- he could have displayed less childish emotional theatrics and gotten far more objective about detailing some of the Colbeck bill’s “weak” provisions.
Sounded to me like they’re arguing about a sampling 20% of some ballots (easier to rig) vs picking entire counties and counting everything in those counties.
They should do Antrim, another Trump county, and Wayne County. Everybody knows the bodies are buried in Wayne County, and they need to just go audit it thoroughly.
Yes I wasn’t 100% clear about what Colbecks original bill actually specified. But they did make clear that Wayne County has 2/3 of MI voters. That ought to be enough to determine the state. I thought they already found an error in Antrim county a few months ago and corrected the vote allocation there in favor of President Trump.
Antrim County’s election system was subverted in a way to prevent critical errors from stopping an upload of vote info, and likely had the memory card hack that switches votes.
Matt DePerno’s forensic team has identified these subversions in the machines as well as remote access with elevated privileges after the election. Logs were deleted so it’s hard to know exactly what went on. His website has about 20 expert reports.
Here is the page for Matt’s updates in Antrim county.
https://www.depernolaw.com/dominion.html
“but they have a 20 million amendment that will definitely come in later so trust him”..
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Is that anything like “Tick Tock”?
Yes I think that was Pulitzer’s complaint too. And they were talking about October for that to possibly happen… which is yet more delay….. IMHO.
There likely are no clean counties, that’s why they want to do a fraction of several counties. Antrim County’s voting machine audit is nearly done, the main thing they need is access to the ballots to verify the effect of the election system subversions they found.
If the budget is limited, do 100% of one county, everyone can kind of figure out which. Who had the 3am ballot drops? Those were possibly the extra ballots that needed to be printed last minute to cover the votes they had added for Biden.
And if I were picking a county to start with Antrim county is not the county I would pick. It has already been audited. I think we have the facts on Antrim. We need Wayne county PERIOD, and then all the rest.
Yep. I agree.
The Republicans want a fractional audit, so they can pick and choose what gets audited.
Bingo
This is like playing Battleship, except that you are shooting at something the size of a dinghy in a large ocean.
And your opponent gets to move his pieces any time it feels like it.
Cocaine Mitch won the Democrat districts of Kentucky.
He’s a no on audits.
Audits are state, not fed. He has no say.
This is the exact scam Raffensperger pulled in Georgia with the ‘substantial’ partial audit of Cobb County . . . after Lin Wood had them on camera shredding ballots in Cobb. Yeah, if you shredded the crooked ballots, I guess all you can do is a ‘substantial’ partial audit.
This makes me like Pulitzer a little more.
Did you dislike him before?
Isn’t it on the record ( from the Michigan hearings) obvious that Wayne county is the major issue? True that machine ‘bug’ or feature from Antrim county is very disturbing issue about whether these machines can be trusted at all.
Wayne County (Detroit) has poor and affluent neighborhoods. The turnout in the poor (black) neighborhoods was remarkably low (10 to 15%). Most predictably, the black vote was indifferent to Slow Joe. The turnout in white neighborhoods of Detroit was remarkably high (80 to 85%). The Trump voters were energized.
Normally, this would presage a huge victory for the Republican in a free, fair election (Ha!).
After midnight, the truckloads of mail-in ballots were rolled in.
This obscenity is among the thousands of common-sense pieces of evidence that this election was oh, so crooked.
Amen.
…And hand me that stack of counted ballots so I can run them through the counter a few more times.
Interesting. Thanks for the post and info.
Steven Crowder spent at lot of time discussing the huge disparity in voter turnout in Detroit.
To buy Biden’s 81 million votes, you have to accept that he was far more popular among black voters than Obama (Barack got 69 and 66 million votes in his two Presidential elections), and Biden was far more popular with women than Hillary (she likewise topped out at 66 million votes).
There is a finite number of votes available in American elections; that’s why “get out the vote” efforts are always so huge. Biden couldn’t possibly have received 81 million votes, because these voters simply don’t exist. Simple enough?
The lie that was supposed to be plausible was that Trump was hated so much that it drove Dem turnout. But that’s not really plausible, given the huge crossover vote Trump got.
We’re supposed to believe that he first siphoned off a portion of Democrat voters, and then an even GREATER portion turned out for Slow Joe (who didn’t campaign and nobody likes).
Um, no.
Yes, they are the ones who threw ALL Rs out of the counting houses and put cardboard pizza boxes over the windows. They were absolutely despicable, and PROUD OF IT.
The Antrim issue may be statewide. Several other counties seem to have some of the same voting system subversions found in Antrim County. They messed up initially in the other counties though, and the initial counting result were showing the “Natural Law Party” candidate as the clear winner for president. I think they had to fix that.
I love this freakin’ guy. Im sick of being manipulated and lied to. Gaslighting, bait&switch, etc. on covid, spying, voting…. I’m sick of their games. Straight talk is golden!
On the surface it sounds like two very smart people who unfortunately tend to let their egos get in the way of the mission. I don’t think this is uncommon.
Sounds like the action (if it happens) is going to come from the House.
It sounds like the Senate in Michigan needs a major overhaul.
I hope they get to a full forensic audit of Wayne County at a minimum.
I think that would provide more than enough impetus to look at the rest.
A full forensic audit of Wayne County would probably result in a large enough swing to tip the state to Trump.
And that Senatorial candidate who took a paid dive. John Jones won. Remember him? He was the disappointment of all times. He was African American, a vet, a business owner, and really likeable. Trump called him a rock star and endorsed him. He clearly won as did Trump. Then rather than fight the steal he took the Bernie style pay off and went away.
Sack of crap. So refreshing at the beginning, ends just like the rest.
Says who ? He never conceded.
“John James concedes Michigan Senate Race”
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/john-james-concedes-michigan-senate-race-gary-peters
–And it was a big one because had he fought it that would have helped steamroll the Stop the Steal movement
–It was a big betrayal and at a real key time too, absolutely gave in to some kind of pay off/pressure or whatever.
–Inexcusable. I don’t blame you for not remembering it was a floodgate of betrayals as RINO’s and Marxists unmasked everywhere.
It was a real puke-fest
“Today I believe it is the right thing to do to congratulate Sen. Peters,” James, a military veteran, said in a video posted on Twitter. “Senator, you may not remember this, but you and I actually shared a glass of scotch at a Pistons game a few years back. So, in the spirit of the holidays, there is a bottle of Johnnie Walker Blue Label coming your way soon.”
–Meanwhile Stacy Abrams still hasn’t conceded, so there’s that.
I stand corrected as that news was never projected where I’m at. North Central Michigan.
Also his name is John James
The case of John James joins the thousands of common-sense arguments that the election was crooked.
A handsome black man from a military background versus a weak white Democrat candidate.
So where exactly would the anti-James vote come from?
Preach it sir, preach.
And he was so dangerous to the Commies and their allies, our RINOS, because that was part of what was happening that was ready to make MAGA a 100 year movement.
Michigan white Dems are already jumping ship in droves, now a Michigan black man as well was ready to lead another floodgate exodus. MAGA was an all color, all background populist rise across America.
So James was set to be a real leader and so the Witchmer and co. stole a black man’s civil rights, stuffed Detroit evidently, and help comes in from MaoConnell and company.
This is truly the Steal of the Century because there were all kinds of key moments and key linchpins and flashpoints, and info streams cut off and the Reichstag Fire and cabals fortifying and all.
I am and will be grateful to all heros now.
But where was he then?
And where is he NOW?
What a zero he is. NOW he could be coming out like Big Stacy did for Dems and he could currently be involved in audits and recounts.
That man’s silence is deafening. Quite a disapointment. Someone check his offshore bank accounts.
Guess he’s a vet the way Milley is a general.
I still have FAITH in him.
I think he didn’t understand the tank roll of the steal that hit this State. He does have a business that he has to contend with which is family owned.
Myself my business comes first always has .
Good point about the audits. I always thought he was great.
My thoughts exactly on John James.
Jovan knows how big this fraud was. Everyone needs to realize their vote was compromised and stolen and thus to take it personally. Thinking it happened only in some distant big city doesn’t do that. It would allow the Patriots to just say,”Of course the big city is corrupt. We all know that, etc” This is a fight for all the marbles. The whole World is watching, doncha know?
Yes it seems to have happened in every county everywhere. They only manipulated the presidential race where needed. The rest of the states probably had down-ballot manipulation. Ever wonder why all the school boards are so pro-CRT?
Wayne County is the only county in Michigan that all 629 precincts turn in there ballots to a central counting area.
I didn’t get the impression that Sen Colbeck is very smart. He may have been an aerospace engineer, but consider the track record of aerospace engineering: Smoking wreckage. Given Colbeck’s apparent age, I’d say he was a computer jockey.
In any case he was defending the indefensible; Pulitzer flooded the zone with fact and fury.
Engineers don’t have the temperament to be go-getters. Ever work with an EE? They will drive you nuts trying to find that last elusive piece of unknown information before he can make a decision about anything. Worked with a ton of them when I was at Bose. Drove me nuts.
He’s might be cut from that cloth. For him, just being in office is excellent.
Good news.. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/07/good-idea-fulton-county-board-commissioners-chairman-calls-georgia-counties-forensic-audit-ballots/
Not necessarily good news – I’m guessing his idea of a forensic audit is not the type of audit we’re seeing in Arizona. I am also inclined to think he thinks his forensic audit might supercede Favarito’s so he can “clean up” for Favarito’s audit.
ain’t nobody good enough at fraud to clean up fulton county. nobody.
I disagree and point to how well the Florida elections went this year.
FL was the laughingstock of the nation for 20 plus years for their clown show. It also was only a couple counties.
The Democrats had set the controls to win FL, but the problem was too much turnout and too big a margin for Trump. They ran out of enough registered voters to assign phantom votes to and moved on to the next state – AZ was then called for Biden while people were still standing in line to vote.
Thank you. We have been in an abnormal situation for so long, we have been conditioned to be hopeless and passive.
We have to stick ourselves to the facts. The truth is the only thing that can heal the nation.
Beth02 I agree with you. This yaahooo thinks he can Jimmy the numbers. I’ve seen this guy on local news. He is a legend in his own mind. Bless his heart.
And he’s no Trump fan so this is important for Georgia.
Re “And he’s no Trump fan so this is important for Georgia.”
Maybe, maybe NOT…
That article from The Gateway Pundit does not include “the rest of the story.” In that article, however, there is an embedded link to one at CD Media where you will find the following…
“Fulton County Chairman Robb Pitts, who has infamously denied any criminality at all in his jurisdiction, has now asked for all GA counties to be investigated [by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation].
We are not sure the GBI does has the resources to do such a thing.
In addition, we are very concerned about the GBI getting involved at all. Using state law enforcement will provide a vehicle to stop all other investigations and possibly cover up the crime altogether [Remember how the FEDERAL Bureau of Investigation REPEATEDLY did exactly that?]. We also reported earlier that the GBI has been using ‘Happy Faces’ employees, whom we have shown via eye witness testimony to possibly be involved in criminal activity.”
Words above within brackets are my own, btw…
Click here to read the CD Media article>>> Fulton County, GA Chairman Robb Pitts Now Says ALL GA Counties Should Be Investigated, Not Just His – CD Media (creativedestructionmedia.com)
I’ve been doing political research online since the Clinton regime. The single most important piece of advice I would offer anyone seeking the truth is this: “Whenever possible, ALWAYS go to the original source of whatever information is being published, NO MATTER WHERE you first see it.”
Otherwise, you will more often than not, not get “the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.”
The following is NOT AT ALL true of CTH and I’m not saying it’s GP’s intent in this case; but, links embedded in articles are sometimes just to make the reader THINK the publisher can back up its statements. However, when checked, those embedded links too often FAIL to support claims being made and at times are even in direct conflict with those claims.
I agree, and especially with your last paragraph.
Thanks, GB!
Yep. I downloaded the VAERS data from the CDC website. 278MB. Linked to it from an ostensibly “conservative” site. The link implied that it would take you to the actual data. It did not, only to a generic CDC page.
After opening the .csv file, I found it has an easy to find column helpfully labeled “Death?”.
I sorted on that. There are only about 5,400 entries, and while some of them are for blood clotting, many didn’t seem related to the vaccine at all.
Yet there are websites out there saying 9-10-11,000 deaths in VAERS.
Always go to the source data. 5,400 is still a lot, but the cause-effect deaths of the covid vaccine are likely far less than 5,400. Which is 5,400 out of 330,000,000 doses.
but the cause-effect deaths of the covid vaccine are likely far less than 5,400. Ok, I get that this is your opinion. However, I believe the VAERS system is not necessarily comprehensively capturing all Adverse Events and Serious Adverse Events (including death) because it relies on self-reporting. So, while you’re correct that it could be far less than 5,400, it could just as easily be far more than the 11,000 number that is currently circulating.
I’m just trying to point out how inefficient our government is in transparent reporting. If the government were clear and honest, we could then have a discussion on how many ‘deaths per dose’ are acceptable for covid19
It is well-known and discussed in vaccine circles going back to the creation of VAERS in ’86 that it is vastly underreported, estimated to be only 1% – 10% of reality. It’s useful as a general indicator. The current amounts in the 5,000 range for partial year are still 30X+ more than typical full years of 3-500. The numbers and the hockey stick graph are a good indicator for concern and research.
330.000.000 doses? everyone in U.S. has had a dose?
I’m not sure (i.e, I have not personally researched that particular bit of info); but, I think in this case, “doses” likely refers to single “jabs,” not “fully vaccinated” people who have been jabbed twice. In other words, 330,000,000 doses does not equal 330,000,000 individual people.
The 330,000,000 probably also includes J&J’s single jabs which supposedly makes one “fully vaccinated.”
No, everyone in US had not had a dose. Any stats on CDC should not be relied on.
By throwing in more counties, Pitts is hoping the investigation will go well into 2022. As close as the race was, Fulton alone proves the election was fraudulent.
LOL
When they carry on and carry on… in love with their own words and drama… I normally just turn it off. I’m forcing myself to listen. ugh. Sounds like, basically, if Politicians can direct these audits that are coming down the pike, in a manner which does not uncover the massive scale of the fraud via “fractional audits”, there is no point to the audits. But, that’s my opinion.
Glad Jovan is working for the good guys.
I had to stop listening as it was giving me a headache.
Jovan he is the Man. I have followed him months ago. He has proof what transpired in all of the states in question with the election fraud.
Wow. I have never heard of Jovan. What a power house of truthful speaking. He is amazing at presenting facts. He obliterates the narrative. Patrick Colbeck seemed visibly agitated.
Imagine Jovan and Patrick Byrne teamed up? These two would be a formidable team.
DD
Follow him on Telegram
Jovan and Patrick Byrne? Both seem to have talent in creating and managing a disciplined process to discover anomalies in the voting results, albeit each would approach from a different perspective.. So theoretically they’d be a dynamite combo. But I would fear that those two super-sized egos would clash sooner than later.
What, where have you been. Jovan been on the for front of this from day one. You have really been missing out and not paying attention.
Yup! I first saw him in AZ at the hearings there, and was very impressed. He has his own very good podcast too.
https://www.podchaser.com/podcasts/jovan-hutton-pulitzer-73214
Heard of Patrick but not Jovan? I would have thought the opposite 🙂
My gosh, what Jovan must have go thru to explain (get thru heads) the benefits of his process. And do that with every state interested in audits like Arizona. Each state wanting to tweek it. !!!
I listened to the whole thing and Patrick is the perfect example of Pulitzer’s challenge.
I am grateful for ppl like Jovan Pulitzer. What a unique individual.
All 3 people in that podcast were useful
in expressing to people, with clarity, of the background, the developmental understanding,
of what it takes for people to set up, and then to complete a real, thorough full forensic audit.
[ while knowing that there are (untold) nefarious others looking for ways, loopholes, to delay and / or undermine a real audit – to spread doubt about the verifiable integrity as a part of the output data. ]
There may be others like Jovan (expertise, plus character – including courage),
but not one that too many recognize, yet. ; )
(watch out for the pretenders, the wooden-nickels sellers)
Thank you for the inside view of the developing discussions.
p.s.
(regardless of the struggle in communication and miscommunications)
Near the end,
each was also honest in recognizing each others positive assets that they brought to the mutual discussions – for the benefit of the country, and we the people.
With God’s spiritual help, and people seeking the whole truths…
…..keep on counting the legal ballots…
and keep on supporting those people that are helping that process to occur – and helping to make honest data become available….
[ as a part of the ground game ]
Love thy neighbors
[p.s. there is also the air game, the pcaps… ]
86/46 He ain’t
For the record- here in Wa. State- I just marked my mail in ballot ,sealed it in it’s ” security envelope ” and tucked it neatly into it’s mailing envelope.
I hope it gets delivered & counted, but I’ve never had full confidence that any have been counted (or delivered) over the years.
Whacko Oregon has had mail in voting for some time. I called them after the election to find out what they did to protect an honest vote and was told I could watch the counting. I figured me standing there for as long as I could wouldn’t really reveal much. It’s like a mystery – you mail your ballot in and then you get told who won. I can check my bank account, my stock accounts, my credit card accounts, view my doctor’s documents, but I can’t find out if my vote went to President Trump or that $*%&% Biden. 🙁
Mail in ballots should be eliminated along with the machines. Absentee ballots with chain of custody and only going to registered voters by their request and with id should take the place of the mail in. In person voting should be available in every state in this country.
And the photo ID and residence should be physically verified every 5 years.
Logboom,
JMO, in Washington State, your “no confidence” feeling has a high probability of being right on.
What the 2020 forensic election audits have confirmed is that “free-and-fair elections” are “few-and-far-between” in many areas of the United States of America.
Blue state’s and cities’ administrations have been constructed over the past decades through inserting crooked politicians through digital manipulation of the voting systems into key governmental positions….. they were not elected by the voters, they were selected by the criminal gangs running the voting systems with the support of the corrupt media.
The fraudulent elections also impacted the different ballot initiatives that have passed over the years.
The success of the forensic audit in Arizona have given citizens in other states the confidence to insist on forensic audits of their 2020 election. The key is to not look at the feds for action, the United States Constitution gives the states the responsibility for elections. It is up to us to clean up our own states and cities.
No matter how long it took, Jovan held this former politician’s feet to the fire. It is a long podcast, even drags some, but worth listening to the end. Basically, Jovan beat him to a pulp, although Patrick has a lot to say, but all said, Jovan cicles around and is the peacemaker at the end, highly compliments Patrick for his good points, which makes/keeps Patrick his friend and not his enemy.
Jovan fought like heck FOR WE THE PEOPLE, no matter how long it took. IMO a lot was accomplished here, as Patrick is working with the MI politician(s) on the bill (even though he repeatedly says he’s no longer a politician…ha), but Jovan is the real influencer here, imo.
If Michigan allows (BY LAW) a full audit, one might presume that that same LAW would include a mechanism to FULLY FUND said AUDIT.
?
WHY…
Are POLITICIANS BITCHING ABOUT MONEY?
AND WHY, is $3 of taxpayers money (PER BALLOT) TOO MUCH TO ASK to get to the bottom of this CHARLUE FOXTROT they call an election??
Would anyone BITCH about giving $3 dollars (Less than a single gallon of JoeBama GAS) to GET TO THE TRUTH?
Sadly, some would object, saying they’ve already paid excessive taxes to the state.
Personally, I wouldn’t, provided theres a guarantee the audit would be conducted as well as or maybe better than AZ’s
I agree, GB, some would.
However, if a single year expenditure ($3) provides even a decade of relief (more fair elections), it would break down to $0.0008/day
What price FREEDOM?
?
It would be a shame to take money from Drag Queen Story Hour.
You are just a troglodyte deplorable meanie phashist hater person.
I get that … alot!!
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Now if all of those funds could be redirected to Drag Races on actual race tracks I’d say that would be a solid investment!
I used to run 13s in my 4-liter Ford Ranger(!)
13’s are really good for that little 4 liter!
Must have been close to sea level.
The old race track (Hawaii Raceway Park) was ~10-15 feet above MSL. I did beat a full-blown Monte Carlo once, but only because he had trouble shifting.
AZ’s legislature only kicked in $150k for the audit. The rest is thousands of donations, some big but most are small.
Agree.
It is amazing how government can never find enough money for freedom, liberty, and the constitution.
Yet somehow there is ALWAYS money for socialist boondoggles.
Just a coincidence, I’m sure.
/s
Found an article that mapped the annual cost of illegal aliens in all 50 states for 2017. Michigan ponied up approximately $850 million. Seems the legislature could re-direct some of that cash for a necessary statewide audit.
Excellent sluething, poncedefreon!
Well Done!!
$20,000,000 (Audit) is 2.35% of $850,000,000 (illegal aliens)
You would think Michigan could “Reallocate” that tiny % (and still keep the lights on) UNTIL the legislature can “Find the Time” to pass the necessary “Bill” and refund the “Illegals fund”.
Seems reasonable to expect Michigan also received “Funds” in 2018, 2019, 2020 and likely 2021 (mass INVASION) for their efforts in supporting “Illegal Aliens”.
If they dig “Deep” I’m confident they can “Find” the $$$.
Watched that entire podcast, and NEVER watch podcasts!
I thought I had kicked the habit, but I’m back smoking the hopium…
Colbeck is such a deflector its funny. These ppl are ALL THE SAME…. psychotic, narcissistic, delay-ecperts scumbags. They cant just answer a SIMPLE QUESTION outright. They have to throw in a bunch of word salad so they can hopefully make you forget what the original question is. They’re DISGUSTING!!!
I think two things of Pulitzer. He’s a genius but a complete ass. Enough of the over the top theatrics. I don’t care what you think of the other guy. Be a professional. You can disagree without being a complete Richard to your opponent. Regardless of what they have said about you in the past, which to a viewer like myself that does not know the history between you two, debate with facts, not with childish antics.
And I just watched the first 10 minutes. Let me decide if I want to come back to this later and finish watching it. I myself just learned a long time ago that what I have to say about the other person and how I treat them reveals far more about me than it does about them.
I know a guy with over 180 IQ – his teacher told him the good news was he had this huge IQ and the bad news was that he’d spend his life having to put up with idiots. But…he wasn’t an ass although I think a lot of really smart people are.
He invented the coating that makes the stealth bomber invisible. After he tried to retire he turned his laundry room into a lab. He has many patents. Incredibly interesting guy.
Re “I know a guy with over 180 IQ – his teacher told him the good news was he had this huge IQ and the bad news was that he’d spend his life having to put up with idiots.”
And, it appears that your friend’s teacher wanted to be the first on the list for making a statement that might potentially have prejudiced him against anyone with a lower IQ.
Well…he was nice to me.
I doubt he was subject to such influences. He could figure it out for himself.
So he IS smart if he was nice to you (the actual smart ones know to be nice to the lovelier ladies).
That coating thing. I too would be fascinated hearing about that. That’s like the cloaking device on Star Trek! Wow. Sometimes inventor/engineer types can’t talk about the things they can do but if he was chatty to boot it’s like you get to be around a modern Tesla. That’s really cool, you’re a part of history!
If you do a search for “making the stealth bomber invisible” without the “”, you can find a lot of information about stealth technology.
I asked him the secret and he said “zinc”.
Prevents COVID and hides bombers!
Re “Well…he was nice to me.
I doubt he was subject to such influences. He could figure it out for himself.”
Just to be clear… there’s no need to defend your friend against anything I said. Words have meanings; and, not a single word in my comment even implies anything negative regarding him.
Saying that the teacher made a statement that “MIGHT POTENTIALLY have prejudiced him against anyone with a lower IQ” does not mean that it did in fact affect him personally that way; nor, was it intended to. All negativity in my comment was aimed at the teacher and no one else.
Oy Vey!
Touche!
There are worse things in life. The average person today is stupid… Not bad, just stupid.
Very bright people live in a different world, and often, they’re lonely. They think different things. They live in their heads a lot. There are very few people they can converse with and be understood. I know… My father had a 170 IQ, and he had a terrible time communicating with others. His head was full of different things.
Jovan is exceptionally gregarious and communicative for one so bright. I’m glad that we are the beneficiaries of that mind. HE HAS OFFERED TO SCAN ALL THE BALLOTS FOR FREE, and has LITERALLY put his life on the line, and I mean multiple death threats. He has over 200 patents to his name. He doesn’t have to do this.
I think Jovan did what it took to “force” this guy to hear the music — no more nice politician BS talk – just straight, in your face talk. Patrick “heard” and he particularly changed his tune imo when Jovan said he was going to teach the people how to understand the politician double talk and how to put the pressure on them until they learned that they, the politicians, were going to do when the citizens wanted and not what the politicians wanted. Patrick then gave his sweet-talk-last comment and spouted out everything ever citizen would want to hear him say.
Jovan talked to him the way Patrick-politician need to be talked to — straight in your face talk that the politician was called out for who he was. No room for niceties nor squirming. Sadly, the Dems have set this stage. We are fighting for our very country. I no longer care if the person fighting for me doesn’t sound like Pollyanna. Those days are over in this arena.
Agreed. Very well said. Dems created this. Time for nicities long past.
We are at WAR. The war is very real. Not sure why people don’t understand that.
Pulitzer makes me think of Abe Lincoln. Abe was always the smartest guy in the room, but he was so smart he didn’t care what the others guys thought of him. Lincoln was goal-oriented, not ego-oriented.
If proving that you’re the smartest guy in the room is your primary motivation, you will not succeed in politics.
Every Party has smart back-room boys. They almost never succeed in front of the camera, or in running for office.
Re “Pulitzer makes me think of Abe Lincoln. Abe was always the smartest guy in the room, but he was so smart he didn’t care what the others guys thought of him. Lincoln was goal-oriented, not ego-oriented.”
Too bad Lincoln was not smart enough to follow the Constitution. Or, maybe I should say it’s too bad he was so “goal-oriented” that he chose to violate the Constitution and/or the Framers’ original intent…
Either way, he was one of the worst presidents in U.S. history. So much so that it’s easy to understand why he was Obama’s favorite president!
In my opinion, comparing Pulitzer to Lincoln is an insult to Pulitzer and an unwarranted upgrading of Lincoln’s worth…
Lincoln may not have invented double-speak and telling different groups different things based on what he thought they wanted to hear; but, he sure made good use of both tactics. That’s proved by the number of contradictory statements that can readily be found in a list of Lincoln quotes.
The positive persona most people have of Lincoln today is a result of the same kind of media manipulation that is used today to hide the true negative nature of modern day politicians who, like Lincoln, see the Constitution as a obstacle to their goals/agenda.
Remember… to the winner (and their lapdog media) goes the spoils; including, the power to write history so that it makes the winner look great.
He probably does mean tweets, too. ?
There’s a big difference between an effective tactical fighter like Trump verses a straight up ass like Pulitzer. With Trump, both sides stick around for the fight. Our side, because we just love to see the other side get their ass kicked and it’s entertaining AND effective at drawing in new Trump supporters both at the same time. And the other side sticks around too because even though their guy is getting destroyed, they just can’t seem to look away. Or they’re too stupid to recognize reality.
With these two, I suspect there was a significant number of people like myself that just walked away because between Pulitzer’s theatrics and talking over the other guy, there was nothing entertaining about it or any facts/points that I could follow that made me want to stick around. Which is a shame because I’ve thoroughly enjoyed hearing him talk before and heard him give presentations before.
I definitely think Pulitzer’s methods should be used for all the audits as they were for AZ. But I won’t waste my time listening to him in this type of format again.
I will.
Both talked over one another.
Both interrupted.
Imho, much of the “Dramatics” from Pulitzer were his way to demonstrate (while NOT interrupting), that when talking, the politician talked like a politician.
I saw frustration in Pulitzer.
Dramatic… yes
Irreverent… yes
I much prefer that than someone droning on and on for 30 minutes only to say that the people have to wait until the politicians “Do Something”.
He’s a friggin POLITICIAN…
DO SOMETHING!
Thanks LafnH20. You’ve given me some good points and a different way of maybe seeing things. To the point that I’ll go back and finish viewing the podcast. That’s the kind of thoughtful commenting that I’ve grown to really love about this site over the last several years. I was hoping that Oldersoul would have responded the same way, but I guess they just wanted to leave a snarky, shallow hit and run reply to my original post.
You are a good man, Justanoldcowboybill!
As promised, I went back and finished watching the entire podcast. And I’m glad I did. Thanks again for getting me to rethink my original viewpoint. And that is why I make CTH my home.
Most Welcome, Justanoldcowboybill!
As I’ve read through the comments this morning (after watching the video, again), I too, have questioned my original viewpoint.
No matter what I “Think” about the “Personalities”, or the “Language”, or the demonstrative (or not) behavior, the fight we find ourselves in is a fight for the truth.
I’m all for decorum…
and it has it’s place…
However, it seems, from time to time, of less value, than returning fire.
Imho…
Jovan has a process which leads to the Cold – Hard – UNVARNISHED Truths which benefit the American People ; Truths that are, by their very nature, irrefutible.
The politicians have a process which leads only to more process and “Politicized” truths which benefit the politicians; Truths that are, by their very nature, negotiable.
“While we shall negotiate freely, we shall not negotiate Freedom.”
– John F Kennedy
Freedom, negotiated, is not Freedom.
If I had replied with my thoughts after viewing it, your thoughts would have been mine, except I wouldn’t have been able to voice them near as eloquently as you have. It’s just the cowboy in me. Lol!
Thank you, Justanoldcowboybill!
Most Kind!!
I appreciate your thoughts, as they got ME thinking. That’s one of the GREAT THINGS about The Treehouse!!
In fact, a thought just occured…
While watching a “Podcast” a couple days ago, a gentleman was explaining a mathematical theorem (I think) with respect to the election.
A bunch of “this + that”, over “sumthin or other”, divided by “whatever”. That kind of stuff. ?
After a few “this cancels that out” magic tricks ?, he was left with a simple equation.
My “thought” that occured…?
E + P = D
Elections + Politicians =
DISASTER
How’s that for some “on the fly” – “Back of the Napkin” math?!
HA!!?
If only I had you for an interpreter over the years, I could have figured things out a whole lot quicker with a lot less time of scratching my head going “what the hell did he just say?”.
Great, walk away with your sanctimonious nose in the air.
Because of Jovan lack of people skills. Was the first reason why they listened to him.
We should keep in mind that Mr. Pulitzer’s life has been threatened. He is in the front line of battle. Most of us do not understand the risks that he is taking.
Donald Trump/Dennis Miller 2024!
/only half-joking (always thought Dennis was brilliant, especially after his post-9/11 political epiphany)
It seems that J. Pulitzer has an unbreakable patent on the kinetic Testing he is pushing and the the Big Tech and some politicians want to use it without cost or i would not be surprised if they have developed it themselves but cannot break the patent and copy right and are trying and end around. Sounds about right to me. All politicians and big industry are all related by blood to the Hunter Biden and Family..
How much did Michigan PAY to use Dominion software?
I remember when Cue Cat came out. I got one free. Pulitzer was there with the first free bar code reader. Being first does not sometimes mean getting the credit, but the technology is now in everyone’s phones and it turned the tide on a locked technology of Bar Coding. The ankle biters attack him for it, but they have not clue how this cheap tacky thing changed technology to an open platform.
His credibility is really high with me, unlike the guy that claims to have created email.
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Shiva didn’t create the actual technology “email”, but an email program named Email, very early in the game. But he doesn’t tell you that.
I believe that Jovan has offered to scan all the ballots FOR FREE.
Yes fair elections matter but until the cesspool of entrenched employees with agendas are purged what’s the point? They will push their agendas and resist anything against their beliefs.
Ya, you are right. What’s the use.
Don’t forget your Hemlock cocktail tonight.
I utterly despise these people, govt employees… Lazy, entitled, dumb, unimaginative, dishonest. Puke.
So we can all look forward to October 25 or whatever when the people will confront their representatives who better have completed the audits so we can all be reassured that Nov. 3rd will never happen again.
Problem is Nov. 3rd already happened once and that one time was enough to destroy the United States of America.
…unless…unless, the ‘diamonds are returned’.
🙂
That’s really catching on. Perfect, perfect.
Less than 14 months until all ballots can be destroyed..
If they haven’t been lost, misplaced, moved to a corn field, spontaneously combusted or flat out stolen… already.
In case anyone is counting
Let’s also do a quick audit of those polls
that inflater O’Bidet’s job approval to “49 %”
It’s much lower as a quick audit of internals demonstrates
Poll-dancing: Is Biden really at 49 percent approval?July 17, 2021
I’m told he got 80M votes so it must be true.
Patrick Colebeck is/was considered the darling of the Conservative wing in Michigan politics. He lost the 2018 Governor primary, by a lot.
From what I just viewed…
Colbeck is a beta male jackass. I will never, ever, support that jerk. He’d never ever win anything again anyway. This is a true picture of what Michigan citizens have for representation. Ugh.
Jovan Pulitzer is the man Michigan needs for its 2020 election audit process.
All the contested cities have not been governed by a Republican Mayor for eons. Detroit since 1962, Philadelphia 1952, Pittsburg 1934, Milwaukee 1908, Atlanta 1879, Madison 1856 except four very spaced short terms. Most of the times Dem win elections in these cities with 80/90% majorities. The respective Counties are of course dominated by the Party of the Donkey as well. So, their electoral results cannot be trusted given that in these places everyone from the janitor to the Board of Supervisors is a Dem or a RINO who can live in such toxic environments.
I understand fraud was found also in small counties like Antrim, MI. However, if we are able to prove fraud in those Counties around the big cities, and put them under receivership to get real results, Dems would lose the contested States for another 200 years.
The same thing should be done to fight corruption and criminality in these places.
The Dominion CheatWare Fraud however is international. It subverts the Framers’ federalist checks and balances within America by running the same CheatWare program across 30 states. And then bypasses even our national sovereignty by being tabulated in Shenzhen and accessible by Iran and others.
#CheatWareMustGo!
Assuming the Receivers aren’t corrupt.
Love that quote by Dennis Miller! Classic ??
Watched the entire episode. A businessman vs. an ex-politician/engineer.
Jovan is brilliant and calls out Colbeck’s lame responses, like saying he wanted everyone on board with the process. Translation “bipartisanship” which will only water down the effort. I‘d get frustrated just listening to weak excuses too. Imagine the number of pols he’s had to deal with in this process. Many are either uninformed or disinterested. Too much work. Not up for the fight. Jovan is a fighter. He knows what needs to be done and isn’t willing to settle for less. We need fighters.
After watching the Giuliani and Ellis hearing before state legislatures last year I came away with the impression that most of these officials are mediocre at best; not like our Founders who were truly vested in getting it right.
Good times produce weak men.
I am with Sundance on Podcasts.
Speech and debate clubs must not exist anymore.
<…debate clubs must not exist anymore>
We should talk about that 🙂
Wait, let’s hear from the other side of that, first.
Well, Jovan was probably a geek and never would have taken Speech or Debate anyway.
Open the books in a controlled way or understand you are under question. Period. All of my life’s work as a soldier, engineer and volunteer firefighter has been subject to review by ANYONE in which I will pay the consequences. Politicians have not and therefore cannot be trusted until proven otherwise. Justin Riemer at the RNC anyone!? Gawd… These people make me sick enough to run for local office.
Oh, goodness. Stupid male ego vs stupid male ego. For what more should we ask?
Pulitzer is correct, of course, but Pulitzer makes Pres Trump a choir boy with all Pulitzer’s insults and sarcasm. Unneeded, but Pulitzer is still correct.
Colbeck is a politician, all that one could ask a politician to be, beginning with dishonest.
Colbeck is definitely NOT an engineer, no matter what he says. Was reared by an engineer. A real, licensed engineer. Colbeck is not an engineer.
Did anyone notice the desk clutter and strewn papers all over Colbeck’s desk?
After all the vitriol, it would seem some progress was made. Not much, but some. And that’s a good thing.
When your genius guy has no filter, you know what you’re getting.
When your smooth talking guy exudes filter, you know what you’re getting.
When you want the problem solved, go with the unfiltered.
AGREED
“male ego” – we’re in a fight for survival, truth is needed, style notwithstanding
Well that was enlightening.?
If you can’t debate in a civil manner, not many people are going to stick around to hear the conclusion.
Pulizer could learn to dial it back, if he is as smart as he seems to think he is.
Ad hominem attacks, yelling and inane repetition do not bolster his position in my opinion.
I’ll wait for the transcript.
If you’re in the position of having to assess by proxy, you’ll fail with quirky savants.
If you know the subject matter, you’ll know whether he’s gold or lead.
I don’t care about his reputation.
He gets the job done.
Was it uncomfortable? Yes. Was it eye-opening? I hope so. Was it inspirational and motivational?
Only if your own self-righteousness doesn’t get in the way.
Which is why Trump faced an uphill battle from the day he declared until today: indifferent people and worse, turned-off people, because he was “coarse”.
Heh. Freedom hangs in the balance, and people are tiffed about verbal affection.
Funny thing about tyrants: they cut to the quick, not wasting the serfs’ time getting the message.
I can tell his patience is spent.
Exactly. And rightly so!
I will take Pulitzer’s passion over Colbeck’s educated c’est la vie arrogance any day.
So, Fractional.. If 3 people are in a room on fire, two run out and one dies.. The Democrats will say its racist fire and two Republicans ran home so they could go to work the next morning..
Colbeck makes a big thing about being an “Engineer” when he doesn’t seem to know the first thing about setting up a QMS (Quality Management System).
PDCA -Plan > Do > Check > Act, is the fundamental concept.
1) Plan what you’re going to do.
2) Do your best to have labor implement the plan.
3) Check the work to see that the actual outcome did conform to what was planned.
4) Act on inconsistencies (feedback) to put the process under control.
Colbeck is trying to be the authority here while appearing to act in a rational way towards compromise with other lawmakers. Steps 3&4 above need to be enacted otherwise classic “Design By Committee” will be the outcome of his approach.
Compromise is what has got U.S. to this point!
How can one think that a compromise on elections Issues would lead to anything but issues because of compromised elections?
AUDIT EVERYTHING!!
It would be revealing to do an ISO style audit of governments all over this nation/world. I’m held to very high standards at work. Why shouldn’t they be? Are they actually following their procedures? Doing what they say they will do? Do the programs they foist upon us actually achieve the objectives? Are the corrective actions actually effective?
Dr. Pulitzer is smarter than all of the politicians and lawyers in the nation put together. He doesn’t need to put up with their crap. He just wants to help save our Republic to the extent that he can.
He ain’t doing this (and there’s quite a lot of ‘this’) for himself.
Also, the criticism of his ‘style’ bugs me a bit…..
remember Obama/Romney/Clinton etc and their slick deliveries?
It is not what (or how) you say it – it is what you DO that counts!
Random sampling only works if the errors are distributed randomly.
If instead there is some sort of pattern, then a random sample could miss it entirely.
In an election where FRAUD is alleged, based on partisan considerations, it is likely that the fraud may be confined to areas that the fraudsters control.
THAT is why the entire state must be audited.
Matt_SE,
Exactly ……… good point. There are some cases where 4-5 counties make up the majority of the votes in a state so doing those 4-5 counties completely would accomplish flushing out the fraud that would flip the election.
Agreed Matt_SE.
They know they cheated.
They know where they cheated.
They know how they cheated.
Sure…
Let’s let them decide where to look for the cheating…
They know which ballots are dirty, and those will magically never be part of the “random” sample.
Many posters on here believe the f bomb is unforgivably rude. But interrupting someone and talking over them to keep them from making their point isn’t?
Pulitzer is a bit eccentric, but he’s exposing the double-speak demonstratively and providing essential clarifications. Folks like Patrick Colbeck is why we are in the mess we are in. He’s so controlled it hurts. Even the less controlled are ultimately still controlled. He’s a big time waste. Rome is burning and he’s ponificating.
Rome is burning and he’s
pontificatingprofiting. (There, fixed it for you)Emergency Use Authorization in effect with borderline mandates but the government is pushing product regardless…and the inoculators have negotiated top dollar.
Fraud is everywhere, yet auditor is having to fight his way into contracts.
Reconcile that.
Stick with it, they are big boys and they hugged it out in the end.
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My representative in NJ puts Colbeck to shame….. and this is NJ.
STOP MAYORKAS!
Unmasked The Truth About The 2020 Election (rumble.com)
Short, concise, factual and made to share, an excellent overview of the 2020 Stolen Election.
#HereIsTheEvidence
#EveryLegalVote
#BidenIsAWholly-OwnedSubsidiaryOfChina,Inc.AndAStoneColdPerv
How wise and telling / informative (and candid) of Jovan to say he wouldn’t tell all.
~Won’t show all his cards so the cheaters won’t know where/how to cheat –more/again.
Let’s say I have a magic wand that has secrets I will not disclose to you, BUT I can wave my magic wand and identify fraud.
You protest that you cannot know the secret of how the want works, so you say no dice to using it.
I say, how do you answer to the discrepancies exposed, forget about how and why I chose them. Answer for the fraud uncovered.
The critic of a black box audit is really driving home the black box nature of the voting tabulation system itself.
“My audit process can’t be secret, but your vote tabulation method CAN be? But, I am the auditor. Your system must be laid bare before me, else no one can possibly have confidence in your system.”
How the h*ll does it require a trade secret software and hardware combination to count votes whereas stone-age civilizations are able to perform with better accuracy and security using ink and paper?
I wish Jovan could avoid some of the name-calling and needling. The debate became unwatchable. In any case, I side with Jovan, and I do see all kinds of politician-speak from Pat.
When it comes to what is a “fractional audit”, here’s what I think. It is far far better to audit 100% of one county than 10% of 10 counties. A county is sort of a “unit” of a state election. Each county handles the election and the county results are then added up to get a state total.
A 10% or 20% audit of a few counties will most likely not turn up fraud or major errors. Especially since the county would be tasked with choosing the “random” sample, and if they participated in fraud, they know where the bad ballots are and will make sure they don’t get picked.
I feel like Pat’s idea is just to say they’re doing a forensic audit but he knows it is a useless one and will reinforce the big lie that the 2020 election was the cleanest and most secure election ever. He is obviously part of the problem and tries to pretend that he is not. He seems like a total snake to me.
I think that AZ. had allowed donations to help fund the full scope of work of a full forensic audit.
It sounded like MI. was trying to match a 10% of budget with a 10% scope of work to do a partial audit of 83 counties…
whereas it was suggested in the dialog of the podcast to do a 100% audit of the largest populated county – and thereby, have some conclusive data as an output.
( which then, pending the verfiable output outcome,
could stimulate or defuse interest to followup with auditing other counties.)
Perhaps MI ( as they work to overcome the reluctant people – and adhere to State statutes) is gathering some momentum?
See ‘decision day’, below.
Imho
Love thy neighbors…
p.s.
Prior to State certifications of electors,
how much do people currently trust the quality, or accuracy of recounts and selecting the proper electors during the 30 days between Nov.3 and Dec.8 ? ( including Veterans Day and a Thanksgiving Holiday weekend… )
Love thy neighbors
Do Wayne County, and finish Antrim.
JULY 24 EVENTS YOU WON’T WANT TO MISS!
Both events are in Grand Rapids, and many of the speakers will be at both events. There will opportunities to network, meet the speakers and the Stand Up Michigan team.
This is a Stand Up Michigan event with other supporters.
This what’s happening in Michigan while everyone here is moaning and groaning.
And whaddaya know – isn’t that Jovan’s bar code invention right there? Sweet!
I go with the guy who changed the world over the politician who protects the status quo.
After all – we are seeking to change the world too, back to normal from the evil that the enemy is attempting to foist upon us.