From the outset in October 2020 everything around the “plot to kidnap” Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer seemed sketchy, almost silly. The goofy similarities and suspicions were familiar to those who remembered the sketchy October 2018 “mail bombing plot” that involved Cesar Sayoc.
It just didn’t seem coincidental that both 2018 and 2020 FBI exploits involved weird frameworks, odd suspects and obviously both operations just happened to culminate in October of an election year… Surprise!
Add to that suspicion all that was known about the FBI’s intense political motivations found in their activities over the past several years; including the sketchy attempt to frame candidate Donald Trump for a vast Russian election conspiracy, coordinated with the opposing candidate, Hillary Clinton; and well, suspicious cats were increasingly suspicious of the FBI engineered mess.
By the time FBI Director Chris Wray was questioned about the content of Sayoc’s Acme “mail bombs” and he said they were comprised of: “energetic material that can become combustible when subjected to heat or friction,” yes, it could have been anything from matchsticks to coffee cream, well, eyes were rolling. When the DOJ then sealed the evidence against Sayoc and all court documents behind the shroud of super-duper national security secrecy, the FBI political motives again seemed transparent.
That’s the backdrop two years later for the FBI’s vast Michigan militia plot to kidnap Whitmer…. and the side-eye from anyone who has ever paid attention to these matters.
Well, as the vast Michigan kidnap conspiracy now reaches court with six indicted co-conspirators, today we discover there were twelve FBI operatives, apparently ‘informants‘ is the new lingo for paid FBI enlisted civilians (pay attention Patrick Byrne, I digress), working inside the group on the plot.
MICHIGAN – […] “A trial in the federal case is currently scheduled for October. Monday marked a filing deadline for defense motions in that case.
Although prosecutors have acknowledged using informants to build the case, the court file to date has provided very little detail on their activities or identities save for one informant, who testified in March. According to an attorney for Franks, the government has shared ID numbers linked to 12 confidential informants but, with one exception, has not provided background on how they were recruited, what payments they may have received from the FBI, where they are based, or what their names are.” (read more)
Yes, you read that correctly, 12 FBI ‘informants‘ amid a group that had six arrests.
Put another way twice as many FBI operatives as there were Acme militia plotters.
“World’s premier law enforcement agency”. Indeed.
If I understand correctly you need a law degree to be an agent. So if these much vaunted “rank and file” are not old codgers then they’re fresh out of the college sausage factories that create good little SJWs. Their MO seems to be if you don’t have a case create or provoke one. Nothing changes until they start going to prison for these stasi tactics.
One needs a degree, bachelors suffices.
A few years back accounting backgrounds were highly sought out.
Thanks for clarifying. So my position is valid if these “noble and stalwart”rank and file arent old coots then they’re fresh out of the college system. My next bet would be these “contractors”used by theNSA are cut from the same SJW cloth.
A college degree, not necessarily a law degree, is required in order to secure a position with the FBI. Unfortunately, the corruption at the top tier has tainted the multitude of honest, ethical and patriotic FBI agents.
And, and, all the college degrees have been infected with liberal ideology for many years, so they don’t have to be taught to be corrupt…..they learned it long ago.
Yeeeeaaahh…why don’t you go ahead & just move that whole idea down into the basement.
That’ll be swell.
You’ll forgive if I ask when these honest agents are returning from what appears to be an extended leave of absence? I appreciate you educating me on qualification criteria though.
All honest agents have retired…..
a modern law degree is obtained not for purposes of compliance or enforcement but to find the loopholes and evident ways to easily violate it….only need to look at the majority JD Congress to prove my point…same way Jug Ears is supposedly a “constitutional scholar”
“If I understand correctly you need a law degree to be an agent.”
That’s not correct. I have a long time friend that is retired FBI agent. Before that he was an Air Force RIO on F4s. No law degree.
Thank you. As a few others have educated me here apparently a college degree not necessarily a law degree is required.
Don’t forget the fine rank and file…
Clear sailing since the demise of the Gestapo, KGB and Stasi…
Until I see evidence to the contrary, the FBI has framed everyone they have arrested/prosecuted since J. Edgar Hoover was in charge.
There is simply no upside to giving them the benefit of the doubt.
You still think Carter Page was the victim of something or other?
Watch Judas and the Black Messiah, an academy award-nominated movie from 2020. It’s about FBI informants inside the Black Panther Party in the 1960s.
And John Dillinger was delivered to the FBI by “The Lady in Red” in the 1930s.
If the FBI is after you, better watch your mother.
The Nazi saboteurs “captured by the FBI”, were turned in by their own squad leader after landing.
Eeeeeeeeeeeexactly.
If you know any FBI agent or their families ban them from your life.
Also beware of the plants like Halper.
Specially out in public, they could be recording your conversation to use it against you.
Actually knew one before he became one. After, he was creepy and we stopped socializing with him. It was like all his poor personality traits had been emphasized. He became arrogant, short tempered and cruel. Happened also to hs friend. Both went in nice and came out a$$hats.
The FBI rank and file are all as rotten to the core as their politically appointed superiors.
Bring back Efrem Zimbalist Jr
Big fan. Also remember that his daughter starred in Remington Steele. (As in dossier)
Coincidence?!!!
Yes…and she was hot…one of the reason i tuned in years ago.
I think Efrem’s FBI was as much 60s media propaganda and indoctrination as Mission Impossible was for the CIA.
Left out EVERY lawyer show, EVER.
Who alive has ever met an attorney that is
anything like those shown on TV shows?
They are a rogue agency at this point that either handles political operations for mostly Democrats or conducts operations to hide its malfeasance. DC will not change this direction the change has to come from the local level to start choking the FIBs political allies out of DC. Then you can have legislators and watchdogs that are will to flush these bastards out of the department…and “preserve the institution “ain’t gonna cut it.
Challenge – Name one, just one, major FBI accomplishment in the last 20 years….
Keeping HRC out of prison.
ROFL! Good one 🙂
They keep dropping the ball on mass shooters they’re informed about. That’s an accomplishment.
Hoover’s name has been dragged through the mud by the left with no means for him to defend himself.
I’ll take him as Director over the current clown…
Like racism, the number of actual ‘insurrectionists’ on the right is vastly dwarfed by the demand for scapegoats. So the government fakes them and fingers the dupes who nodded along. Just like the race hoaxes.
TonyinLA: That’s the gist of it.
The story fell apart for me when I asked myself the question, “Who would want to be around Witch Whitmer let alone kidnap her ?”.
Really, who kidnaps the Bride of Frankenstein and for what ostensible purpose? Brains? A questionable motive to be sure. At least we can rule out zombies.
The Ransom of Red Chief.
The kidnappers would soon pay Michigan to take her back.
Anyone wanting to kidnap that woman deserves to be locked up…in an insane assylum!
Unreal.
Informants are paid; sometimes, quite well!
Some are paid millions.
Christopher Steele
That’s their job….that is what they are hired for….nothing but. They don’t even have to know a thing, just follow the script, sort of like the black lives matter group or antifa fascists. All of you, just shut up and do as you are told.
Hoaxes that show coordination between states and agencies
– the subway sandwhich saver in MAGA country (punched his own eye) – was a Michigan Hoax
– Charlottesville was a Biden Hoax (to feed racism angle needed for an election) -(videos of antifa and blm surrounding the women and kids and pelting with with bricks and frozen bottles and gassing them – with the Police forcing the women and kids back through one park exit they just fought through the weapons hitting them)
– Whitmer kidnapping story was a Michigan Hoax (to feed ‘domestic terrorism’ angle needed for to set up the later insurrection play)
Fact Giver: matches = “energetic material that can become combustible when subjected to heat or friction” more coordination because CNN got to open the packages and photo them for a new angle.
florida airpoint shooter – went to the FBI multiple times
florida gay club shooter – dad worked with STATE dept
florida school shooter – went to FBI multiple times
texas muhammed drawing context shooter – had FBI undercover in the vehicle with them
any more?
Who can forget Juicy Smolett, more racisssmm, Spartacus and Heels Up “lynching” legislation followed later by Bubba “Hold my beer Juicy” Wallace and his door pull.
Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio is also an FBI informant.
how could I forget that.
that was the image i Posted on twitter that got me banned. a washington post article showing the leader of PB was black.
Now there’s a white supremacist. /s
Phillip Haney was on to the San Bernardino radical islamic terrorists, but when he reported his findings up the chain, obama & holder told him to shut the investigstion down and DESTROY all evidence.
We know what happened next.
Haney became a whistleblower and wrote a book about it called “See Something Say Nothing:”.
Just before he was about to release updates to the book he was killified under irregular circumstances.
the FBI and NSA spying on Americans didnt stop Phil Haney’s suicide did they.
These Crime Fighters are some Real Tough Cookies! Ephram Zimbaless Jr would be proud!
Aside from the outrageous misconduct on the part of our Justice Department, how can they look at themselves in the mirror?
What do they see? I’d really like an answer to that, because this is insane behavior.
Do they think we are all deaf, dumb and blind?
Everyone should be concerned with the timing too. They did this to interfere in the national Election.
YES!
They. Don’t. Care.
Who can hold them accountable?
The woke p***y “general” Milley? He couldn’t punch his way out of a wet paper bag.
In reality, there aren’t a whole lot of “us” to be had any more, they DO think the majority are deaf, dumb and blind, because most of the younger generations HAVE BEEN brainwashed in school for years before they became of age and don’t even know what is going on.
“What do they see? This:
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“In case of election, break operation”
The Dozen Dopes and Their Six Dupes.
Using those calculations— how many “operatives” participated in the pre, post, and on 1/6?
Aren’t there five to six hundred political prisoners being held without bail? So, ten to twelve hundred operatives?
one released on bail, cant use the internet as part of probation.
The sparse presence of the Capitol Police on that day has been noted by many observers. My guess is that almost all of them were there, but not in uniform, boosted by large contingents of other undercover federal agents.
How ever many have been charged times 2 is the going amount right now. Could be more but probably not less.
The Fake Killing of Ashli Babbitt
https://people-who-did-not-see.blogspot.com/2021/07/the-fake-killing-of-ashli-babbitt.html
Yes, and remember this? Sundance posted in February . . .
Everything Wrong With The Capitol Shooting In 21 Minutes Or Less ~ 2/8/21
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what is different – it is over an hour
Yes….. have watched it several times.
So, is she still alive ?
FBstasI
FB-lie
Director Smelliot Mess is on the case. He will get to the bottom of things and might even find the FIB’s reputation under one of those stones he turns over.
Here’s a thought. You know all those local cops who are retiring or outright quitting in disgust? Well, when Trump takes office again he should just fire the entire FBI payroll and hire all those former local cops to replace the whole lot.
The Fibbies branch of the DOJ. Eric Holder built this gang of fools to advance his Communist Apparatchik’s agenda. Barack Obama was always very pleased with the AG and his tactics.
There were no kidnap plotters. Whoever was arrested was essentially kidnapped by the Joebama administration.
Should one decide your going to attack tyranny of government note the words of Sun Tuz
“Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.”
Sort of remember Trump saying something similar…..like why would you let y our enemy know in advance what you were gonna do and when you were gonna do it.
I have to wonder if that 2:1 ratio applies to the felonies committed as well.
At what point does the FBI become the domestic terrorists
They have long past that point.
the day a governor orders the sheriffs to remove the feds from their state.
Trump should have issued an executive order declaring the DOJ/FBI a terrorist organization and arrested all of them, including Barr and Wray and sent them to Gitmo.
FIB ignored warning about the 9/11 terrorist attacks, Boston bombers, Florida gay nightclub terrorist attack, ignored the plot to kill Pamela Geller, and on and on and on and on. ….
Essentially, the fbi tried to kidnap the governor of Michigan.
What a completely corrupt institution.
Entrapment.
Pelosi, capitol police, antifa and FBI conspired to entrap peaceful MAGA protesters and change the event from a peaceful protest to an “insurrection.” FBI, Pelosi, antifa and capitol police were the real insurrention.
So basically, we have the FBI paying people to create plots that would not otherwise exist.
Just like making people testify to entrap them on perjury on a fake Russia collision investigation.
Yep! To further and carry out their ideaological agenda.
legally THAT is called entrapment when the police asset is the initiator of the plot
Same way they set up the “deadly insurrection”. This time they actually stormed the capitol. Jan 6th was a total set-up.
The FBI and DOJ have turned into Goonland.
A pack of slavish brutes.
How does the FBI keep up this standard of excellence after losing Comey, McCabe and Swivel Head Strzok ?
It appears that the 99% actually learned the same unethical, underhanded, anticonstitutional methods as the 1% ……
Fictitious Indictments Bought. That fascist bureau is one of the first that must be torn down and its leadership thrown in prison.
Oh, my there’s my other favorite cat….I can relate !
This means the FBI plotted to kidnap WHitler…They should be arrested without bail. They’re insurrectionists!
What if all the informants were the plotters?
Nashville Phone Hub
Las Vegas
J6
What’s next?
Wait! I thought it was DOJ policy not to do anything “political” in an election year … esp. that “surprise” month of October …
I want to know who is funding this jaunt? Better not be the tax payers! And if someone else is funding it then it better be counted as income on their tax returns!
Sorry, accidental wrong topic post.
The DOJ is a crime syndicate. Makes the Mafia look like choir boys.
The Mafia mostly killed themselves. The DOJ is killing us.
Me just thinking, the Fraudulent Bureaucracy of (useful) Idiots more than likely set the whole thing up. After all these so called called plotters were from a white supremacy group and fit the MO they are trying to prosecute. Christopher Wray could actually be worse than his predecessors Comey and Mueller. How can that be possible. My bet that’s his “intent”.
“Well, as the vast Michigan kidnap conspiracy now reaches court with six indicted co-conspirators, today we discover there were twelve FBI operatives, apparently ‘informants‘ is the new lingo for paid FBI enlisted civilians (pay attention Patrick Byrne, I digress), working inside the group on the plot.”
Suspects, all.
Cesar Sayoc’s devices were complete hoaxes. Whatever “incendiary material” they may have contained, they had no ignition circuits or triggers, so they could never have exp!died.
Even the “timers” were props. They were actually adhesive-backed digital “dashboard clocks” that didn’t even have a programmable timer or alarm circuit (necessary if they were to be used to trigger an ignition)
Granted, he was a pathetic person, but he never intended to hurt anyone. To this day I wonder if he was “encouraged” (harangued) by FBI provocateurs into committing his stupid acts?
Almost certainly the Fblies was directly involved.
Sayoc suddenly aquired the money to decorate his van in new decals and someone went to lengths to hide his prior political inclinations.
Further, two of his “bombs” needed to be hand delivered without postmarks or commercial courier to make the news cycle timing. The FBlies never bothered to investigate those deliveries that Sayoc couldn’t have physically done himself.
The fbi has become a national embarrassment. At one time the bureau, was a respected agency. Today it is little more than a keystone cops organization. Incompetent and corrupt as well.
They are a national disgrace and enemy of the people.
It smelled bad even when we didnt have this information. So the much vaunted “rank and file” did what they did on 1/6 and played instigators and provocateurs. Seems to be their MO…when they have no real case 5he6 just create one. Nothing will change until these bastards start going to prison.
“We don’t have enough people crazy enough to go along with our goofy plan to fill a VW Beetle. We need more guys. Can anybody get us, say, 12 more guys? This has to look like an actual evil plot.”
The FBI-to-perp ratio was 2:1. Kinda makes you wonder how many dozens of people the FBI had on the ground in D.C. on 1/6 agitating and instigating to create the pretext for arrests…
This incident will warm the cockles in the slimy heart of Peter Strzok.
The play book is to contrive the crime, search out potential crime participants, introduce crime facilitators to the arena and, as necessary, assist the duped participants to execute the crime.
This comes off as a cheap plot in a farcical movie and not the reality of the top criminal investigatory agency in the USA.
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When so many alleged law enforcement are provoking law breaking, it is past time for the U.S. Marshals to round up the law-breaking FBI on as many charges as possible so that our secret police never again see the light of day.
I wonder what Americans think about the Rule of Law now when they see the names………..
Pence, Barr, Wray, McConnell, Graham, Kavanaugh and Barrett
No!!! C’mon man, you kidding me…
Mostly they would just say that…..there are too many who don’t pay any attention to what is going on. Probably most of them can’t tell you who their own Senator is. I’m amazed they even know what time it is.
Heck with the JFK files or the UFO files…….
When PT takes office again in 2024, IMO his first move is to declassify and expose all FBI communications and files from 2016 to present for ALL Americans to read.
May happen, but they (the public) would never bother to read it themselves.
I say it again: how many “major” crimes would there be if the FBI didn’t actively try to get people to “commit” said crime?
No wonder they protect antifa/blm.
It’s their people doing the dirty work for them.
Seems to be a common tactic for the FIB…when you dont have an actual crime to prosecute provoke or fabricate one. But please dont blame the pure and noble rank and file.
My favorite cat on-line!
The corrupt FIB is desperate to prove just how dangerous White Supremacist groups are. Along with Pres. Trump supporters.