An interesting about-face from the Dept of Labor and OSHA. Previously OSHA stated that any employer who required vaccinations must report adverse reactions as workplace injuries. However, OSHA is now saying they will not “enforce” that record-keeping requirement until May of 2022.
Essentially, vaccine mandating employers don’t have to start recording vaccination reactions as workplace injuries for another year. This is a complete reversal from the OSHA position earlier this month. The rules have now been modified as below:
OSHA – “DOL and OSHA, as well as other federal agencies, are working diligently to encourage COVID-19 vaccinations. OSHA does not wish to have any appearance of discouraging workers from receiving COVID-19 vaccination, and also does not wish to disincentivize employers’ vaccination efforts. As a result, OSHA will not enforce 29 CFR 1904’s recording requirements to require any employers to record worker side effects from COVID-19 vaccination through May 2022. We will reevaluate the agency’s position at that time to determine the best course of action moving forward.” (LINK)
Notice the obtuse wording: “OSHA will not enforce” the recording requirement. So long as everyone sticks to “don’t ask/don’t tell” employers will no longer be penalized on their workplace injuries (OSHA log) and/or insurance rate from negative results of mandated, untested, non-FDA approved, vaccines.
“So long as everyone sticks to “don’t ask/don’t tell” employers will no longer be penalized on their workplace injuries (OSHA log) and/or insurance rate from negative results of mandated, untested, non-FDA approved, vaccines.”
Bingo!
Your Life Insurance is null and void you: Race Cars, Boats, Motorcycles, Airplanes, jump out of an Airplane, Hang Glide etc etc. Even Worse if you die in a “Homebuilt” aka “Experimental” Aircraft.
So people are lining up to take an Experimental Drug? When is the Life Insurance Industry and “HR” who will take the blame for not catching the losses if people are hurt or worse?
Insurance rates go up because of this, does “Big Insurance” as a lobby group push back, especially if they go after them if they stop paying or have they already sent out the warning signal, No Mas, we are not going to be left holding this bag…
That is not true about life insurance. I don’t understand why people continue to make these outrageous statements about life insurance. Life insurance rates are based on mortality. The mortality rate has not changed.
Mortality is is multifaceted and based upon RISK. This is why there are different rated for different things like SMOKING, SKY JUMPING and as this writer suggests, most probably EXPERIMENTAL INJECTIONS. Actuary tables are highly mathematical tools used to determine the RISK of mortality.
It’s ALWAYS BEEN about the litigation, not since May of 2020 has it been about WuHan Flu.
Corporate closures, lockdowns, mask requirements (as a symbol of their “concern for safety”), all of it. It’s always been about the fear of somebody bringing a frivolous lawsuit and the cost of defending it.
Citizens, we’ve been had!
This means they got major pushback from the Country Club Chamber. So, here’s what will happen…
Before May of ’22 they will push it back to after the elections, just like they did ILLEGALLY with major portions of THE LAW nicknamed ObamaCare. And then it will just fade away, as if it never happened, or until they selectively choose to weaponize it against their perceived enemies.
With ObamaCare, they enforced what they wanted, when they wanted, and if it was convenient to them politically. It was OK to rape pillage and steal $$$ from individual hard working Americans who got hit 1st, the hardest, and the worst by that piece of crap, but those with Cadillac Plans, oh no, they had to be spared. Employers, they could wait. Medical device companies, maybe. REMEMBER, it was/is LAW, that they all passed, without reading what’s in it. They even gave themselves an ILLEGAL waiver.
“Cadillac Plans, oh no, they had to be spared” (in the beginning).
ObamaCare made my Cadillac Plan illegal.
I’m having trouble understanding this. I choose to go to the local clinic, on my own time and effort, and receive a flu vaccination. That vaccination gives my some adverse reaction. Why does that have anything to do with my employer, who has nothing to do with my medical insurance, or any medical condition. And how does this now become a “workplace injury”?
The annual Flu vaccination is a vaccination approved by the FDA. That vax underwent some 5 to 10 yrs of tests.
The covid “vaccination” is an experimental drug, not approved by the FDA. That vax underwent 2 months of tests.
If your Employer required you to have the covid vax as a condition of employment, the employer becomes liable under OSHA and DoL laws.
That’s how.
It would be different if you willingly, solely and only of your own choice, chose to take the covid vax. But if you are required to take it by the employer, then the employer becomes responsible. Also, under the Nuremberg Laws, no person can be forced to participate in medical experiments. That includes experimental, unapproved, vaccines.
Thanks. That type of employer requirement is foreign to me. Never worked at a place large enough to have an HR department handing down health policy. Always been places where it’s me and the guy who signs the paychecks in the same trenches, getting just as soiled, doing the same work. Never been given the “take a vaccination or loose the job” ultimatum. It’s always been like the pro-choice mantra where it’s my body therefore it’s my choice on all things medical.
This sounds like all the lawyers and politicians and drug manufacturers have threaded the needle on this one, to where we must participate in experiments with unapproved drugs, but with just enough approval to avoid Nuremberg laws, yet not enough approval to hold drug manufacturers liable if things go wrong.
There are many employers trying to enforce it,
Many colleges have send out notifications. one can’t enroll.
Try this on for size, some crazy posted on FB not once but several times that if an employer does mandate COVID vaccine then the employer is responsible if someone get COVID, supposedly from the non-vaccinated person.
they got shut down really quickly.. But that is just some of the garbage people are getting from ??? and then reporting as gospel
Suppose they started a war & no one but the enemy showed up?
We do not have to consent to taking an experimental medication!
Am blue around the gills, but I repeat:
We stand together.
Or, we fall
individually.
If the employer forced vaccination on their employees OSHA said it would be recorded as a workplace injury, now they have changed their minds.
They didn’t change their minds, they’re simply saying the reporting requirement won’t be enforced for one year, until May 2022.
Buying time for 12 months for the results of the untested vax to be covered up by CDC replications sleight of hand and other cover up schemes.
Common sense got overruled; again.
OSHA does not override laws passed as a result of the Nuremberg trials.
If they do it anyway, it’s going to be too late to learn much about Hitler & the Nazi experiments on human beings.
Your employer isn’t requiring you to take the flu shot.
There’s a fine line between requiring an employee to get an experimental drug and coercing them to get the jab via separate workplace rules. A very fine line at that.
But different rules bases on something like a health decision is discrimination.
play the game but better
Definitely. In fact, I would call it a hostile work environment to discriminate between employees when they don’t consent to experimental jabs.
In accordance with federal HIPAA privacy laws, healthy employees are not required to disclose their health information to anybody.
The fact that employers are expected to check health status and then advertise the employee’s health status to everybody via masking, is a clear violation of Federal HIPAA privacy laws.
The fact that employers accept only narrow excuses like doctors notes or religious exemptions, demonstrates that plain old, voluntary consent has been summarily denied, which makes the employer’s vaccine policy a mandatory one.
Employees that refuse will be charged with insubordination and terminated. Wait and see.
I’m sure you’re right.
So if all those who don’t want the vaccine for whatever reason, employer has lots of syringes, & vaccine… but too few employees.
They jumped the shark. Nobody wants more onerous Covid-19 workplace regulations than the ones currently in place.
Nobody wants to spook their employees. It’s impossible to find workers as it is these days, with everyone on Covid relief content to sit at home.
Imagine divvying up your employees, tracking who is who, and then having to figure out who is mixing with whom at any given time.
No mixing without masks on is an onerous policy to implement. “Everybody wears a mask” is so much easier and legally sound, as well.
I don’t think employers will take it that far. They don’t want the inevitable lawsuits and unemployment claims.
This is all a bluff to trick the employer to coerce the employee. Employers avoid the snare by applying OSHA’s most restrictive safety rules across the board: everybody is masked. End of vaccine story. End of liability.
There are currently two medical facilities requiring their employees to take the jab. It is happening:
https://www.pennmedicine.org/news/news-releases/2021/may/penn-medicine-to-require-all-health-system-employees-to-receive-covid19-vaccine
There is a group of Penn Medicine employees trying to start a class action lawsuit against the facility for any employees who do not want to take the vaccine. They’ll be the litmus test to see just how far our freedoms have eroded.
Or Hep-B or meningitis or whatever?
There are PLENTY of employers who DO require you to get a flu shot. These will be the same to “try” to require a Covid shot. So far, many are coercing employees to get it.
True, and I can understand it in certain, very restricted situations. But the huge difference is that the flu vaccine, which is a true vaccine and has been run through the proper vetting process, none of which apples to this mRNA shot.
A question: Are employers who require employees to take proven and properly approved vaccines exempt from accountability for those drugs?
Yes they are….2 flu vaccine injuries…the employer denied they were from the flu vaccine.
The difference is the Covid-19 shot is experimental medicine that cannot be mandated. That’s why the drug manufacturers were already released from liability, as volunteers waived all liability to participate in trials.
People who are being coerced to participate in experimental trials due to punitive workplace restrictions are no longer volunteers. That’s why the employer will assume liability for any resulting injuries.
Some do, ie hospitals
You can lose job for smoking weed at home.
Watched it happen many times to good people.
Under California law, adults 21 or older can use, carry, and grow cannabis (marijuana, weed, pot).
Buying cannabis became legal for adults 21 or older January 1, 2018.
After work place injury everybody is drug tested.
Smoking weed at home can cause loss of job,house,wife and family.
don’t know if this is old hat here but just found out about the change in classification and testing for the vaxed vs. the unvaxed which seems clearcut fraud:
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/caught-red-handed-cdc-changes-test-thresholds-virtually-eliminate-new-covid-cases-among
Other than pure politics, what is the incentive for an employer to require the COVID shot? Or might it be that they fear the legal wrath of jabbed employees who will sue for being placed in harms way, and since they are apparently now a preferred class, their claim wins out over the non-jabbed’s claim of being put in the same situation?
Oh, and how can they legally justify requiring a drug approved only under an EUA (when there’s not even an emergency) when they don’t also require the taking of fully approved vaccines, such as for the flu, a disease that kills more working-age people than does COVID? Oh, wait. I forgot this has nothing to do with either health, science, or logic.
they fear the legal wrath of jabbed employees who will sue for being placed in harms way====just curious….HOW are the “jabbed” (ie vaxxed) employees “in harm’s way”? Seriously…the jab/vax is supposed to protect them….right?
So what I want to know is why take the poison shot if I am STILL not protected from the virus? I only want the shot if I can then go stand in an unventilated room FULL of chinese-virus-infected individuals and be SAFE….
This is something I’ve also wondered. Why are states, employers, businesses all on board about this “ Vaccine”? There must be some financial incentive behind it. The pharma companies are clearly making billions, they must be incentivizing businesses to mandate it as well. Flow the money, again!
Employers are not on board with it. They are being “guided” by OSHA and Dept of Labor. But so far employers can still get rid of the hot potato by applying the same mask rules to all.
This approach is acceptable as it errs on the side of workplace caution (masks are required at times, so employers go for more restrictive, not less). There is also no coercion of employees when everybody is treated exactly the same.
Not exactly the kind of strategy that makes me suddenly believe that it’s a GOOD idea to get the jab.
I know, right? In a twisted logic this rightly makes the vaccinated seem the liability, as nobody wants to be holding that hot potato when the expected downstream health issues surface. Surely not the vaccine manufacturers, who were shielded from the get-go. And now the insurance companies will foist liability onto the employers. Just at a later date.
Because the “guidance” falls short of a mandate (how can anybody mandate an experimental drug trial?) prudence dictates that employers not take the bait. *If* the employer adopts separate workplace rules for the vaccinated, they are thereby creating a hostile work environment for the unvaccinated.
That gray area between mandate and voluntary essentially disappears, and the employer now owns the hot potato.
The answer for employers is to simply pass the potato by holding the line with masks for all employees regardless of vaccinated status. Err on the side of caution until the mask mandate is lifted completely.
CDC investigates dozens of reports of heart inflammation in teenagers and young adults about four days after their second dose of Moderna or Pfizer vaccine
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9608675/CDC-investigating-heart-problems-teenagers-young-adults-Moderna-Pfizer-vaccine.html
Although it saddens me that people will be harmed by FauXI’s mad scientist experiments, I love that the CDC’s overreach has now highlighted the conversation they’ve been keeping under wraps: vaccine trials gone wrong.
FDA will approve in warp speed time. Corrupt does corrupt. Then what?
If the FDA prematurely halts the experimental drug trials to approve the vaccines, then everything hinges on whether the vaccines will then be mandated and, if so, who accepts the liability for mandating them.
Right now they’re trying to punt that football onto some unsuspecting employers, who don’t realize they will assume this liability when they inadvertently become the enforcers of vaccines in the workplace.
Once they make their billions, what’s the incentive for big Pharma to complete the studies required for approval from FDA? The incentive is gone. The only incentive I see is in boosters. The boosters are going to be the meat and potatoes for pharma
Indeed, the supposed “studies” already seem to be an afterthought. Who is tracking these test subjects?
Where is all the data? Who is assuring that the drugs are safe, when it’s far too early to make any assumptions?
These experimental drug trials are supposed to last until 2022-23, depending on the drugs used. Volunteers vs control group are supposed to be compared and results evaluated after several years. Not months. Years.
“Essentially, vaccine mandating employers don’t have to start recording vaccination reactions as workplace injuries for another year. ”
Somehow I doubt this is in compliance with other vaccines required by employers.
On the other hand, what is to stop an employee from demanding a report be made anyway?
Employers can’t prevent workers from filing a workers comp claim. The claim may or may not be accepted by the workers comp carrier, depending on the circumstances of the claim. A vaccine injury becomes the employer’s liability when the employer exerts pressure to get the vaccine.
Employers should be completely neutral -like Switzerland- when it comes to vaccines, experimental or otherwise. Let the authorities that be mandate them.
While some states are stepping up and passing bills to stop various tyrannical edicts, they need to up it a notch and pass a vaccine bill of rights that, among other things, prohibits employers from requiring medical treatments for employees except for very particular instances.
Banning tyranny done only by government agencies is not good enough.
May be worried about ability to pull off another massive fraud effort on the scale of 2020 election to win local and congressional elections in 2022, if the demo-commies stay on the current path. May 2022 puts this beyond the 2022 elections and before the 2023 Primary Season, leading into 2024.
Allows for allot of focus group testing before trying again.
..or could be major incoming via legal assaults on “right wing extremists” to bring on 1-Party rule in 2022 or something new is brewing as Plan B.
Also, pay close attention to the election of the UN General Secretary who is seated in January 2022. Comrade Obama is being pimped for the job. The major draw for Obama is that he brings control over Sock Puppet Joe’s pen and cell phone to the tale if elected.
Fascists, Communists and Democrats = Three Peas in a [Totalitarian] Pod.
I’m hoping all those entities who require the non FDA experimental jab like the cruise industry will begin to lose their shirts and will stop requiring the vaccine.
Or the vaccinated get Covid on the ship and begin passing it around! Ooops, now they go back to square #1 and the cruise industry goes bankrupt.
I guess the cruise industry isn’t worried about it. They’ll just just get another bailout and more paid time off…all courtesy of the taxpayers.
More social constructs posing as law? If the court system was not corrupted this would not be a problem. But it is.
That sounds about right. We should start seeing some interesting developments during the next flu season.
OSHA–another irrelevant letter agency! Sounds good when you read their purpose until they shadily change rules like this. It will take someone getting really sick and/or dying from the vaccine that was required by an employer to sue said employer before things change. If they put on an employment mandate, then you must adjudicate!
Why do you think any and all redresses against an employer will be handled in court?
I expect a few out of court settlements if someone’s loved one dies.
An exchange of money will not be involved.
It is anticipated that 40-50 percent of vaccinated people could die of antibody dependent enhancement (ADE) when exposed to diseases in the future. That’s a lot of settlements.
Basically, they are saying that employers can force employees to get a vaccine, that has killed a lot of healthy people, and not be held liable for it.
There needs to be a class action lawsuit to stop this mess.
I expect other things to happen.
See my above comment.
I have seen stories of vaccinated persons shedding proteins(?) from the vaccine and causing non vaccinated persons to have side effects. So refusing the dangerous jab still might not be enough to keep you safe.
Follow the political science. Covid and the government’s use of it is a fraud.
And now the CDC measure of who has “COVID” is being changed to minimize/maximize reporting of “cases” by adjusting the PCR test thresholds for vaccinated vs. unvaccinated people… OUTRIGHT FRAUD!
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/caught-red-handed-cdc-changes-test-thresholds-virtually-eliminate-new-covid-cases-among
Well that’s one way to avoid accurate statistics on the consequences. I thought that as soon as I heard they were going to have employers report. I wa like “ I’m surprised they’ll allow that”
Someone at OSHA had their career/personal/family safety threatened. Didn’t see THAT one coming…..
So that about-face didn’t take long!
….too soon?
No one knows better than President-in-Exile Trump that Covid1984 was and still is a Fake Pandemic (and we’re certain President-in-Exile Trump knows much more about its nefarious origin than he has stated in public). We who refuse to be subjected to “the jab” from a Fake Pandemic would sorely appreciate some understanding from the President-in-Exile.
With or without OSHA, there will be lawsuits filed vs employers who mandated the vax as a condition of employment which resulted in employee adverse health results.
They are taking every possible measure to hide the truth concerning injuries resulting from the mRNA genetic modification (fraudulently called a vaccine).
The fact that the FDA had no right to approve an emergency vaccine trial in the first place, given there were already safe and efficacious treatments, says that everything downstream from their original sin is #fubar.
My guess is they have been following the rather alarming results coming out of the VAERS and don’t want to have worry about paying for it. I have three neighbours who had their second Moderna shot this past week and all three had such bad reactions they had to take a few days off work and one is still suffering from excruciating joint pain after five days though she is improving daily.
FEAR BOX
The Biden group has tried many fear tactics….then….they gave rewards for people to get the so call experimental shot they call a vaccine….kids get free hamburgers, vaccinated people get free lottery tickets, I got e mails from the drug store offering me $10….well, Joe said, “none of this has worked” “What else can we pull out of the “FEAR BOX”???