Keep in mind the vaccines are not FDA approved yet; instead all the vaccines are being administered under a federal Emergency Use Authorization (EAU).
Essentially what Rutgers is forcing upon their students is a mandatory policy for a vaccine that is not FDA approved. However, faculty and staff are not required, only the students. This is nuts!
(RUTGERS ANNOUNCEMENT) – Rutgers University will require the COVID-19 vaccine for students who are enrolled for the 2021 fall semester.
Assurances from the federal government that vaccines will be available for all Americans by the end of May and assessments by public health experts prompted university leaders to adjust the vaccine requirements for the fall semester.
“We are committed to health and safety for all members of our community, and adding COVID-19 vaccination to our student immunization requirements will help provide a safer and more robust college experience for our students,” said Rutgers President Jonathan Holloway.
[…] “Since the start of the pandemic, we have said that the safety of the Rutgers community is a shared responsibility,” said Antonio Calcado, executive vice president and chief operating officer at Rutgers. “An effective vaccination program is a continuation of Rutgers’ commitment to health and safety for all members of our community of more than 71,000 students, the cities we are in and the communities we serve throughout New Jersey.”
[…] Students enrolling at Rutgers who are under age 18 will be advised to receive the Pfizer vaccine, the only one of three vaccines currently approved in the United States that may be administered to 16- and 17-year-olds. Pfizer, Moderna and Johnson & Johnson vaccines are approved for those 18 years and older. (read more)
Okay, someone out there must file suit against this insanity.
I don’t believe a lot of people do not realize this is only an experimental “vaccine”, know of the adverse reactions, deaths and permanent disability already associated with it or so manipulated into fearing the Chinese virus that they won’t object to it. There is censorship on what makes this “vaccine” different is not well known or understood. The FDA has still not approved these experimental “vaccines.” They have only been approved for emergency use and adverse reactions of death or permanent disability is NOT COVERED BY INSURANCE because they are experimental. I don’t believe it is legal to REQUIRE a experimental vaccine. Expect other universities to do the same – all under then umbrella of “compassion” just like they did for legalizing abortions etc. and now we have infanticide as being “compassionate.”
I looked at their webpage and it is totally misleading when it comes to approval. These “vaccines” only have approval for emergency use, not for it’s efficacy and long term effects are unknown. Not that the FDA is great but the FDA has still not approved it because these manufacturers could not prove it’s safe or long term effects – precisely the reasons you should NOT take them! Besides that, people getting these shots are still getting the virus BOOSTER shot is being proposed! Expect never ending “booster shots”… .
Faculty is NOT REQUIRED to get these “vaccines” – they are just urged to get them. Students this age are at the LEAST RISK to Chinese virus problems. This is vaccine tyranny!
“As vaccine supplies are made available to the wider population, faculty and staff are strongly urged to receive the vaccine, Calcado said.”
“The COVID-19 vaccines have proven to be safe and effective in preventing serious illness, hospitalization and death,” said Brian Strom, chancellor of Rutgers Biomedical and Health Sciences and executive vice president for health affairs at Rutgers. “Vaccination is key to stopping the current pandemic and to the return of campus instruction and activities closer to what we were accustomed to before the pandemic drastically changed life at Rutgers.”
They even tell you which “vaccine” to take based on your age. Why is that?
“Students enrolling at Rutgers who are under age 18 will be advised to receive the Pfizer vaccine, the only one of three vaccines currently approved in the United States that may be administered to 16- and 17-year-olds. Pfizer, Moderna and Johnson & Johnson vaccines are approved for those 18 years and older.”
Playing loose with the truth is an understatement here amongst the hypocrisy going on.
President of Rutgers, Jonathon Holloway has made the rounds in academia. He was Yale’s “first black dean” in 2014 and AND has taught African Studies … . He is now Rutgers first black President. He is a flaming liberal and loves the idea of reparations for blacks, a staunch affirmative action supporter and loves writing books on it.
A lot more here – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Holloway_(historian)
Prabhas Moghe, is the executive vice president for academic affairs for Rutgers. “He has also launched programs to promote the advancement of women in STEM fields, and programs to foster a more vibrant, innovative, and creative mindset among Rutgers students. A recipient of the university’s Leadership in Diversity Award, Dr. Moghe is actively leading programs to broaden the participation of minority students in STEM disciplines.. .”. More here –
https://academicaffairs.rutgers.edu/prabhas-v-moghe-executive-vice-president-academic-affairs
These people seem more like promoters and salesmen than academicians but then that’s the way it’s going.
Rutgers is the State College of New Jersey. Seriously?
Why would anyone with an IQ over 85 on a warm day go to college or live in New Jersey?
Then again it’s only $45,000 a year for an out of state idiot who wants to live on campus.
“Expect never ending “booster shots”… . Exactly.
I would not buy aluminum siding from these guys.?
They are deliberately misleading people. If the truth was clearly presented, people wouldn’t be lining up like cattle to get it.
“I looked at their webpage and it is totally misleading when it comes to approval. These ‘vaccines’ only have approval for emergency use, not for it’s efficacy and long term effects are unknown.”
Speaking of misleading, here is the partial text of a mass email that was just sent out by TRICARE, the military heath insurer:
“We know you have questions about getting the COVID-19 vaccine. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), the three approved COVID-19 vaccines do help prevent COVID-19. And, if you get COVID-19, they’ll help keep you from getting seriously ill.
Before you receive the vaccine:
Doctors agree: You should take the first vaccine available to you, as soon as you are eligible.
Know that these vaccines are safe and effective. They have gone through the same safety tests and meet the same standards as any other vaccines produced through the years. There’s a system in place for the CDC to watch for safety issues and make sure the vaccines stay safe.
Learn about any side effects that could occur after you get the vaccine. If you do have any side effects, they’ll only last a few days. Having any side effects doesn’t mean you have COVID-19. It means that your body is being trained to fight COVID-19.”
I imagine that there are a bunch of lawsuits challenging the sheer price of classes in light of on line learning vs in class learning. This new requirement of the vaccine for in class will keep the lawyers very busy and hopefully put a crack in the armor of the corrupt higher ed paradigm
I have just been telling people that the government and/or businesses will not be able to require covid vaccine since it is experimental and not FDA approved. How is this even legal? I know the whole “private entity has the right to set any requirements they want’ excuse. So if this goes through with no pushback, it will be company policy everywhere. This has to be stopped. They are discriminating against students who want to take charge of their own health by refusing the vaccine.
It’s just a mask… What’s the big deal?
It is NOT legal – the paperwork that the manufacturers are required by law to hand out to people before they get the “vaccine” says that it is an experimental medication and everyone has the right to refuse it!! But SO many things have already been done to individuals and small businesses in the last year that were blatantly illegal and so far, the sheep have willingly gone along with nary a peep. (Because the government knows best and they care about us?! Really??!!)
The lines in the sand are being drawn very clearly and if a huge majority of people do not start speaking up very loudly, VERY SOON, there will be no going back and the country formerly known as the United States of America will be gone, by the end of this decade, at the very latest.
Key sentence:
‘faculty and staff are not required, only the students.’
Says So Many things about them.
They don’t care.
Tax University endowment funds to pay off student loans: refund for deficient product. They overcharged students and lied about job prospects- just like fraudulent trade schools.
These funds are for the benefit of students, not professors or staff.
Care about your students and alumni? Pay them back…
absolutely.
and that’s the grounds for your lawsuit in a nutshell.
How much ??? would I love to see the Rutgers students flip the bird at the University and withdraw from enrollment en masse.
Higher education prides itself on cranking out “independent thinkers”, until it doesn’t suit them to promote independence of thought in their students.
Hey, Rutgers U: F A I L !
Hey Rutgers Students:
Just Stand UP for your independence of thought, and for your body; your choice.
universities haven’t turned out independent thinkers in decades
That will not fly.
Is that US policy, or communist China policy in the US?
https://www.inquirer.com/education/china-funding-us-colleges-universities-trade-tensions-20200207.html
Because the students are the ones who will suffer the most from this monstrous vaccine. This is heinous, and it MUST be STOPPED.
At some point someone says “stop” in the name of our laws at the point of gun, as uses it if necessary…
Stop! In the name of law…
Before you break my heart.
Think it over.
No Supremes fans?
I’ve tried so hard, hard to be patient
Hoping you’d stop this inoculation…
All right, Marygrace…
Perfect on the beats!
What happened to MY BODY MY CHOICE?
That doesn’t include you. Know your place!
But you can be whatever you want, especially in America. Just ask professor Hill from Temple University.
No wonder some students are so confused.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qamcx35yzv8
It is your choice, as long as you do what they want…
But it’s about safety. They have to suspend all of our rights in order to save us from ourselves.
If you don’t understand that, then of course you’re a racist. Lol
Rutgers is not a private entity. It is essentially New Jersey State U.
New Jersey is run by a mindless liberal, DEM tyrant!
He really said this!
Pennsylvania (King Thomas Wolf) is also toast…
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Understand That Some People Love the Pandemic
https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2021/03/22/understand-that-some-people-love-the-pandemic-n2586599
I have seen estimates that 30-50% of the American public does not plan on taking the “vaccine”.
Choose not to participate.
I WILL REFUSE & RESIST!
So, you’re retired or single working a minimum wage job w/o benefits?
Seriously, the elite will make these vaccines mandatory. They have means of enforcement beyond your imagination. If they can deny legal recourse for a brazenly stolen election, why do we think there would be legal recourse for mandatory vaccinations in the private or public realm?
“The passport could be used by individuals in the workplace, in school or when travelling internationally.”
https://www.9and10news.com/2021/03/28/biden-administration-working-on-vaccine-passport-system/
Get a black market passport. Problem solved.
I hope these estimates are correct . I am finding myself standing alone, even in my own family and while many friends expressed concerns in the beginning, all, with the exception of 3, have caved into pressure from peers and family, and I have a wide circle of friends.
I had a dental visit last week and the first thing the person said was, ‘well, have you received your vaccine yet?’ Got a little chilly when I said, “No, and I don’t intend to.”
My friend who had terminal cancer said her doctor insisted she take it. She died 15 days after the 2nd dose. I can’t help but wonder if that hastened her death.
That is horrible!
Why would a doctor want a patient to take that if terminal? So evil ….
When the Chi Com Flu was first introduced nationwide last year, many of realized that this was going to be the beginning of the end of life as we knew it. Not just here in the USA, but all over the world.
I’m sure that our President Trump must have known or at least had some inkling of the ultimate evil that had been unleashed against himself and our Country. The problem was that this was the first time something like this had happened and he had no idea how bad it was or how many people could potentially die from it. Truly it was his perfect storm.
Fast forward to where we are now and how far we have come. For all practical purposes the scamdemic is over- the fake “cases” are way down and so are the deaths, even the ones that were “with” covid as opposed to being “from” covid.
None of this matters to the dictators who are running things. The muzzle masks/face diapers/Jew Badges will be permanent in many states like the NY Gulag. Likewise, NY is the first in the nation with its very own electronic Jew Badge or Empire Pass or whatever TF they call it. Soon it will be like China and we won’t be able to go anywhere without our new license.
All of those students should demand their money back and not attend the stupid college. I don’t expect that to happen. They are all so brainwashed that they probably believe they need it. THat they will die without it.
“Why should we care about this right to refuse medical treatment? One hardly need focus on the practical historical examples. But there is another reason. The mind, the seat of reason, does not exist in a vacuum; it exists in the body. The origin of the word ‘sane’, sanus, refers to ‘health’, not mental health, but health in general. It can mean either body or mind, or, more likely, both. The point here is that the body is not a vehicle for the true person, the person is the whole. No one who cannot be fully human without conceding their right to decide what procedures can be performed on their body can be considered free in any meaningful sense.”
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/why-the-vaccine-passport-plan-is-so-wrong-whatever-they-call-it/
Face Diapers are regarded by the sheeple as patriotic and holy, by the wise as oppressive and ridiculous, and by the rulers as … … … useful.
They want us in masks forever!
Not just one mask but maybe two or three masks according to Fr. Fraud, er Fauci.
Masked, vaccinated and under house arrest.
Dr. Falsie can wear ten masks for ten years for all I care.
I’ll bet that leading up to the 2024 election, we’ll probably see a big phony spike in the China virus numbers.
Just to make sure that we don’t get any goofy ideas about a fair election.
So true!
PDJT runs on ego. Start saying ‘it looks like he submitted to Obama”
Risa, -everyone- taking the vaccines now IS the Research.
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I saw a cartoon with a couple of mice, one mouse says to the other “have you gotten the covid 19 vaccination?” The other mouse said “no way, they haven’t finished the human trials yet.”
I will require Rutgers University to kiss my ass, how about them apples?
Smart move!
The U.K. is taking this a step further and if these tyrants continue to get their way here, we can expect this:
Facial Recognition Vaccine Passports Being Developed by British Tech Firms
By KURT ZINDULKA
27 Mar 2021
Tech firms funded by the British government are developing facial recognition systems that could be used by private businesses, such as pubs, as coronavirus vaccine passports.
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The plan being developed by the two companies would instead see people stare into a smartphone camera, which would use facial recognition to check against NHS data on vaccination and coronavirus test status, reportedly within seconds.
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Facial recognition software has already been implemented by private businesses and the police across the United Kingdom; however, the technology has not yet been used to enforce coronavirus regulations.
The Orwellian tech has been widely adopted in supposedly more authoritarian countries such as communist China, which has installed over 200 million surveillance cameras across the country as a part of its so-called ‘Skynet’ system.
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Speaking to Breitbart London earlier this month, DeleteMe CEO Rob Shavell warned that the use of vaccine passport systems would lead to a form of “algorithmic discrimination” that could range from employers refusing to hire unvaccinated people, to insurers refusing service, and certain groups being prioritised for economic opportunities.
Shavell said that through the mass collection of data, Western countries such as Britain are creating a “sneaky capitalist” version of the Chinese social credit system.
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https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2021/03/27/facial-recognition-vaccine-passports-being-developed-british-tech-firms/#comment-5321401003
I can easily see this morphing into not having a vaccine, to not being able to buy, sell or participate in society. Doesn’t that sound like prophecy coming true to you?
They certainly aren’t allowed to leave the Island.
Bingo!!! The mark of the beast. Get it and you are cut off from God forever.
BTW, do what my wife and I did, get the power of Attorney on your children’s health. This puts a stop to any government thinking that they are their parental guardians.
This is why your seeing the ages of 16 and 17 and not the legal age of 18.
Just don’t send your young men and women there. The student loan business is ridiculous anyway. Quit voluntarily funding this nonsense.
They also told young men in trials to freeze their sperm.
WOW!
I bet they aren’t telling males or females to freeze their components as they take the experimental shot!
So infertility is a real possibility! That will make Bill Gates very happy with his obsession about population control. HIs father was part of Margaret Sanger’s Planned Parenthood and from his parents is where he developed this obsession with abortion and population control. What Orwellian times we are living in… .
population 500,000,000 after 1 infertile cycle dies off
Ever notice ole Bill never looks STRAIGHT at a camera? He’s always got his head cocked off at a weird angle giving the camera the ‘side eye.’
I have noticed that too. The flailing way he waves his arms around as he talks is weird as well.
wow. Do you have a link for that?
I’ve got a couple of young male family members who are starting college.
“However, faculty and staff are not required, only the students. ”
All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.
Will black students also be exempt?
“They” have convinced black students to get the vaccine first.
I have to wonder if this vaccine makes you sterile… .
Bill Gates Sr. was involved with Margaret Sanger’s Planned Parenthood and Bill Gates, his son, is preoccupied with depopulation too.
The invaders at the border seem to be exempt. The O’Biden regime brags about fighting the virus, while importing it through our Southern border and spreading it all over the country each and every day. Talk about a dumbed down country.
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The mask compliance was an outstanding success in societal compliance to tyrannical dictates.
Tyranny will only metastasize …live birth abortion –>Covid 19 –> masks -> stolen election-> vaccine passports->weapons (gun/ammo) confiscation —->White Christian Genocide
JUST IN: The Biden administration is working to develop a “vaccine passport” that will allow Americans to travel and enter businesses that require proof of vaccination
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1376243124557783040
“It’s not us!” the government cried. “But the businesses and institutions want to do this, so we are just trying to make it easier for the citizens to comply.”
Sometimes I wonder how the institutions and businesses choose “who will go first” to implement the newest tyrannical power grab. Do they draw straws? It only takes one to try the mandate and the others will fall like dominoes.
Well New York beat everyone to the punch:
https://nypost.com/2021/03/26/nations-first-covid-vaccine-passport-coming-to-new-york/?utm_source=Gmail
Yes, we have our own official electronic Jew Badge.
We did not get to vote on this. Neither did our elected representatives.
They just let Killer Cuomo do whatever he wanted to do as per usual.
No doubt IBM paid him handsomely for this tyranny.
Funny you mention IBM, they had punch cards for the Jews during WWII. This has been documented.
https://www.ibmandtheholocaust.com/
did people who already had chicekn pox have to take the vaccine?
The mask compliance was amazingly successful. Here in Northern Illinois the flocks of sheep are even wearing masks while out walking , biking, leaving stores, going to stores etc. I walk by maskless and just shake my head in disbelief.
Forced mask wearing has never been associated with anything good… .
The awful iron bit,awful
and under 30….in their cars….alone….
with the windows rolled up…. ?
As is in SW FL
Eventually, they will mandate it to hold any job or enter any building. It’s the mark of the beast. In order to buy or trade you must take their mark.
You know that is coming next.
You read my mind. I sure hope pretrib is the proper interpretation.
I don’t debate that because I don’t want division in the small world of Bible based believers. Many churches are “falling away” and “sound doctrine is not (being) tolerated. ” Pre, mid or post trib is not a salvation issue and time will soon tell who is right!
Personally speaking, I hope He comes soon. The evil going on seems overwhelming and unending. Before you can catch your breath, another hideous policy is being enacted to force you to comply with, agree with or be censored, ostracized and in some cases totally destroyed financially too.
The Cloward Piven strategy is on steroids!
Found in the bin…. 🙁
I’m sorry if I did something wrong.
What did I do wrong?
Sometimes comments wind up in the trash because some word is on the list we screen for. Or sometimes we just don’t know. Anyhow, Ad rem is just telling you she pulled your comment out of trash and restored it.
Maybe not just yet. At first I thought this was it too but there’s too much pushback still.
Some of us were warned about this stuff in Sunday School decades ago.
I remember when I was 16 (50 years ago) and decided I wasn’t going to church one Sunday morning in Waukegan Il.
My dad called the preacher a couple of hours before church started and she came over. She knocked on my bedroom door, came in, sat on my bed and said a couple of things that I clearly remember. She said “son you should get up, go to church, and make your parents proud”. I immediately agreed and that was the end of it.
She also said : Someday you’re going to want to go to church, and you won’t be able to.
I’d pretty much forgotten that whole episode until the left started shutting down churches because of the scamdemic.
MAGA
wow. That was quite a Preacher. LOL. That. Is. Dedication.!
Crony-Capitalism: Vaccine Edition
“Imagine a business model where the government mandates that customers must use a service or product, but then exempts the producing company from any liability connected to those services or products. ”
https://www.rxforliberty.com/blog/crony-capitalism-vaccine-edition
Just wait until all businesses force their employees to get this and if you don’t you are fired. Where are all the lawyers at?
Right-to-work states don’t need cause. Texas is one of those.
You Refuse to Get Vaccinated, But Are You Ready to be an Outcast?
https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/you-refuse-to-get-vaccinated-but-are-you-ready-to-be-an-outcast/
Well, I’m already an outcast in so may ways, adding another to the list…
I have heard over and over prior to this flu season:
Claims of medical exemptions due to disability status can not be questioned.
The law does not even permit questions about your disability.
“I’m sorry, that’s private medical information under federal law.”
They are breaking the law to force medical procedures without a medical license.
If questioned ask: are you my Doctor now?
Oh, you can definitely be challenged as to whether or not you actually HAVE a disability. You just can’t be queried on what it is. I had to deal professionally with every nuance and loophole in HIPAA since it came into force in 1996. About half the states have passed laws since then requiring people to produce non-specific doctor’s notes upon request (to prove they aren’t lying to gain special status) before a business has to grant medical exemptions.
Usually it’s easier for a store etc. to bar those who won’t mask (if the place cares about that) by offering curbside delivery. There’s no refusal of service, it’s a proactive accommodation of any true disability and it avoids the fights when no-maskers and Karens go out-of-bounds arguing with each other and disrupting business.
“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. This is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and for exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country.”
– Hermann Goering, Hitler’s Reich Marshall, at the Nuremberg Trials
..People can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. My leader is my Lord Jesus Christ and NOT any government or government official including Donald Trump who gave us Operation Warp Speed. Nope, President Trump, I am not taking your warp speed, gene modifying, aborted baby derived mRNA fake vaccine. And that goes for evil Joe Biden/Kamala Harris too.
Yes, if that is what it takes.
Vaccine passports are a con trick, whatever they are called
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/vaccine-passports-are-a-con-trick-whatever-they-are-called/
Fake passports for the vaccine are already available on the black market.
Capitalism at its finest !
I sure am glad to hear that!
the real card I saw had a expiration date of 6 months
they want to jab you twice a year
Quite the list of misleading questions based on false assertions. Vaccines work, but not instantly. It takes up to 49 days to achieve full immunity after you get the shot, depending on which type. During that period you can still get sick, and still spread the pathogen. Lockdowns (quarantining) also work, but much slower than vaccines do. Neither method can work if you don’t do either of them, and many people don’t. If you have to ask why treat healthy people, you don’t understand the whole point of preventative care. (After all, why prevent people from getting polio or meningitis or tetanus who don’t already have them? Because you can help protect those who might die or become disabled BEFORE they get the diseases.) The new mRNA vaccines DO meet the medical definition. Laws get revised to conform to the medical definition after the fact, and that’s not new. They’ve invented and refined this new mRNA technique because the data so far indicates it works even better than the earlier “traditional” forms of vaccination. However, “old school’ type vaccines are also available to fight this virus. Their advantage is being easier to ship and store under ordinary refrigeration. All the vaccine brands with an EUA in the US have undergone phase 3 safety studies. All the known side effects from the phase 1 and 2 testing have been published, and you can get the full list from your own primary care provider, or at any licensed urgent care. Again, vaccines aren’t instant. They DO prevent transmission, and lead to immunity, just not the same day you get the shot. The cost-benefit analysis is a governmental function, not a medical one. To the medical community, the whole job is to kill or contain the virus, and cure the vulnerable from the effects of serious disease. It’s up to each nation’s “gubmint” to decide how much money to spend to get there. You’ll have to ask them what their cost-criteria justifications were. I can only answer the medical side of that question.
if you trust and believe what you are being told. I do not anymore.
here is a medical question:
I’ll wait for both of these two simple asks.
btw, if you are wondering these two asks are one of MANY REQUIRED PRIOR TO APPROVAL DATA formed by the FDA for any drug and vaccine.
And lastly, if you concede this information WAS NEVER PRODUCED (it wasn’t), and you can’t provide it (it’s not possible to provide something that doesn’t exist), the please explain to me and other WHY the FDA is not requiring a pseudo-phase 3 to track efficacy and safety NOW?
For example, why are people who are contemplating getting the vaccine NOT TESTED FOR ANTIBODY (that would infer that immune response is present from prior exposure)?
For example, why are people WHO HAVE BEEN VACCINATED, not being subject to POST vaccination studies to collect evidence of efficacy (antigen blood tests) ?
do you see the problem?
if not, I recommend you really start asking the right ducking questions.
You don’t quarantine the healthy for Goodness sake! Never in history before has such stupidity been done. An entire country’s economy TRASHED by putting the healthy under house arrest. Stupid! And we as a nation put up with that idiocy. Sheep.
We need to find/fund/found private and international sources for passports that recognize superior performance of immunochemotherapies like quadruple therapies etc. (e.g. ivermectin + mega D3, etc).
There are now signs in the pharmacy area of Walmart near a cute little table with 2-3 chairs available….”please wait here for 15 minutes after you have received your covid vaccination for observation of possible adverse reactions…..please let a pharmacist know if you feel you need to wait longer than that….”
I have no interest in volunteering for a vaccination that is considered so iffy, by those administering it, that they consider such a sign necessary (or having an ambulance on standby, as is common in all public vaccination clinics in Oregon)
Illegal drugs can be purchased and consumed with no such limits.
My neighbor approached me yesterday as I was working in the yard and taking a moment’s break in a chair on the front porch. As she approached, she said loudly, “I’ll just stay here” (about 10 feet away in the driveway).
Then, after a bit of conversation she asks, “Did you get your shot?” I responded, “Wow, did you get yours???” And she excitedly described the process and timings and how pleased she was to have gotten the experimental drug.
So….since she was vaccinated (two times as suggested) several weeks ago…..I had to wonder why she still had to stand 10 feet away from me while we are speaking to one another outdoors. Apparently she doesn’t believe the vaccine protects her.
Guess it makes sense though….I read a current update on CDC (yesterday) that SPECIFICALLY STATES they do not yet know how long the vaccine(s) will provide immunity.
I don’t care if people take the vaccine. I do care if they pretend not to know things or actually haven’t been paying attention to either the CDC’s own statements or the obvious “public health” procedures that are being imposed….and then act like I’m the one who is out of step.
Such silliness. Very dangerous, yes. But silly, too.
I know someone who proudly announced they “got their Moderna.” It seems to be a status thing for the uninformed.
They are sending out some radio signal. All the liberals I know talk about their jab like it was winning the lottery and had the intrusive nerve to ask me when am I getting it? Like HOW the hell is that your business????
“I believe in full protection and gotten mine” and walk away.
(I take 200-280 mcg/kg ivermectin, megaD3, megaC, quercetin foods, EGCG, zinc, magnesium etc)
IMO The CDC and AMA are ran by leftist clowns. But they seem to be experts on racism and “unconscious bias”. Whatever that is.
https://www.ama-assn.org/delivering-care/health-equity/ama-racism-threat-public-health
Why are you shopping in Walmart?!
I am not obligated to defend where I shop, not to you or anyone else. Giving you my reasons would involve a considerable amount of personal and medical information….but I do thank you for reminding me why I seldom comment anywhere anymore…and I was here the first day the tree opened for business. I guess I’m just a slow learner….so, thanks for the reminder.
Why do you feel it is your responsibility to admonish another Treeper?
Every injectable medication on Earth is that “iffy”, Sharon. It’s also required by the malpractice insurers. You have to wait 15 minutes after a tetanus shot too, or if the doc gives you any treatment in clinic. People can have allergic reactions to an ingredient in a shot. It’s rare, but it happens. I’ve seen it maybe ten times over 39 years. These reactions are easily managed with Benadryl or epinephrine, as long as the patient is still there. Allergic reactions to injections or IVs express rapidly. Certainly better than getting dizzy or feeling faint/nauseous while driving home, wouldn’t you say?
I am 76 years old, have had every vaccination and “shot” recommended (including tetanus) and I have never been made to wait to be observed. In addition to that experience, I have been watching the procedures and protocols surrounding covid things changing, ramping up, etc. over the last 10-12 months. Everything is being tested….just another way to say they obviously are not real sure of what they are doing so first they try this and then try that.
Your response to my recent observations assumes things that simply are not so.
So genetically modified foods are bad, but genetically modified humans are good?
That sounds logical.
Sounds like an old movie.
It is wrong to put temptation in the path of any nation
For fear its people will succumb and go astray
So if you are told to face diaper up or be accosted
You will find it better policy to say
“A free people will never be made to face diaper up
No matter how trifling some say the cost
For the end of that game is oppression and shame
And he who pays it is lost!”
– “Kipling”
I might make my own “passport” and claim it better on limited data:
200 – 300 mcg / kg ivermectin every 2 weeks
10,000 iu / day vitamin D3
2000-4000 mg time release vitamin C QID
500 mg quercetin or EGCG
20-30 mg Zinc
200 mg magnesium as chloride BID
1 – 15 mg MK4 (human vitamin K2 for higher doses of D3, even 50,000 iu/day)
Those medics and officials interfering with vitamin D3 and ivermectin need to be removed, hopefully personally sued and charged with high crimes like assisting mass homicide, interference with life saving tx, and (in some countries) economic sabotage.
It is said that the vaccine does not necessarily prevent the person from getting Covid. It prevents an exposed person from becoming seriously ill with Covid. Which is exactly what the protocol listed above by Mike does. So no difference in benefit between experimental vaccine which has caused deaths and safe protocol, which can also protect against regular flu and many other illnesses.
Liability may be non-existent for the manufacturer of the vaccine, but liability attaches to the mandate of the vaccine.
If, in a few months or years it turns out that the vaccine has side effects which are serious enough to warrant litigation by those affected (or their heirs), the vaccine companies may have no liability, but is it anywhere written in law that everyone else does as well?
If an entity mandates vaccination, it should be held liable for adverse effects therefrom. Don’t like that strict liability? Don’t make services contingent upon vaccination.
Rutgers will probably make students sign a waiver exempting the university from liability for having requiring vaccination. Whether that waiver would hold up in court is to be determined.
its not a contract if its mandatory everywhere.
the picture sD keeps putting up is becoming clearer.
1 society of followers and conformers.. 1 society of rejects and outlaws
How about an armed free society? Ahem.
Never mind the civil liability, when/if the nature of the huge crimes are recognized, only some rope is needed.
The sign says exactly what’s happening. Susan Estrich is an American lawyer , writer, and political commentator. She wrote this in her newspaper column today:
‘Not getting vaccinated, I should add, is not only the wrong choice, scientifically speaking; it is a selfish one. We need to create herd immunity to protect those who, for medical reasons, cannot be vaccinated. It’s not a matter of assuming the risk for yourself, and it’s not simply about the public resources that will be spent to treat and hopefully save vaccine deniers. Will we do unto others, or not?”
I believe she grew up in Marblehead , Ma, which is possibly why her head is full of marbles if she truly believes some of the crap she writes.
“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. This is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and for exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country.”
– Hermann Goering, Hitler’s Reich Marshall, at the Nuremberg Trials
Re: herd immunity… the Amish are on it
https://nypost.com/2021/03/28/amish-group-could-reach-covid-herd-immunity-health-official/?utm_source=email_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons
If the media is number one enemy of the people, academia must be a close second.
I wonder about the Foreign Students? Are they going to be held to the same standard? Specifically Chinese students?
There’s about 400 thousand Chinese nationals in our schools. I don’t the exchange part is mutual.
Fascinating how so many people are unable to think for themselves any more. Or ask logical questions, and realize nobody is really answering what they are actually asking.
Yet people don’t need ID to vote. That’s voter suppression.
I have no intention of being “vacinated” now or in the future. If I can’t make this decision for myself, then the US I grew up in is truly lost.
Ok. You understand you will never fly on a commercial airline again once this gets bedded in? Airlines can make their own rules and have flagged that happening.
Unfortunately I have no choice, too much interesting fishing to do in too many interesting places.
You’d be better off driving. There are plenty of decent places to fish here in the United States.
Kiribas, the Kamchatka, Amazon Tributaries, Mongolia, PNG…… no vehicle access.
Don’t care, simply won’t go.
Of course Ruitger’s are aware that none of the vaccines prevent you from getting or passing on the China virus, aren’t they? The hope is merely that you will have less symptoms, a waste of time with young fit individuals without co-morbidities. Such individuals mostly experience the virus as a minor ‘cold’.
If you are under 65 and have no co-morbidities, including obesity, it’s a non event. Ask Sweden.
Injecting an unneeded, experimental substance into non morbid under 30s is a crime.
” ” ” ” ” ” ” under duress or involuntarily is a crime against humanity.
I’m 60+ with multiple comorbidities and happy as a clam with serious chemoprophylaxis.
The people are the guinea pigs and most don’t know it!
Pharmaceutical makers have no liability for these vaccines and haven’t since 1986 and it you have an adverse reaction, death or disability, it is not covered by your insurance because it is experimental! Less than 10% of adverse reactions are reported and so far they have been horrifying!
Ned, who you calling guinea pigs?
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That’s really cute!
It’s getting very scary out there… .
I would like to believe I’m just having a bad nightmare and will wake up to the U.S. I used to know. Things are moving along so quickly in taking us down.
Yep, the end of the end times quickly approach. We are told to take a vaccine that isn’t a vaccine at all. It’s a gene modifier. Satan is so pleased with his massive deception.
I can hardly take it in that we may very well be THAT generation!
BTW, Israel looks like it may need a record breaking history making FIFTH election!
The liberals in Israel are gaining ground. Netanyahu can’t cobble together a government because he doesn’t have enough seats and the liberals might just pull it off. Israel has some tough days ahead. Biden will not support Israel – he has sided with Iran.
It is a state school. Employees are state union but they will be next. That is the real battle line
Mark of the Beast.
This is a spiritual assault.
“Freedom faces a new enemy. The tyranny comes under the disguise of expert rule and benevolent dictatorship. The new rulers do not justify their right to dominance because of divine providence but now claim the right to rule the people in the name of universal health and safety based on presumed scientific evidence.”
With the pronouncement of a pandemic, the goal of comprehensive government control of the economy and society has taken another leap toward transforming the economy and society.
https://sennwoop.home.blog/2021/03/20/the-united-nations-the-origins-of-the-great-reset/
It is also immunological assault.
I was in the Philippines when people found out the hard way that hundreds of kids were dying from Dengvaxia’s immunological reactions at a later time.
The mathematical estimates were about 1000 kids with serious outcomes in 100,000 uninfected kids at vaccination .
It is common for public or private universities and community colleges to require vaccinations prior to attending classes in person on campus. Anyone who has gone to college knows this. The faculty and staff are not required to have the vaccine because of employment and HIPPA issues. Students can claim religious or health exemptions if they like.
True when I went back to school at ASU I had to get my MMR again because it had been so long since the last time I had taken it.
Yup. My son is getting his vaccine for bacterial meningitis before going to college in the fall.
When I was in the military, I had more shots than you can shake a stick at.
However, those are FDA approved vaccines. Parents should respond to Rutgers and other colleges with a legal statement wherein the UNIVERSITY accepts full financial liability if an incoming student becomes ill as a side effect of the COVID vaccine made mandatory by the college as a condition of enrollment.
that must be a relatively recent requirement
Gotta be. I don’t remember taking vaccines to go to college in the 70’s or 80’s.
I remember them being required to ravel to certain countries, but not for College, H.S. or Jr. High.
I remember. Went to college in the 70’s and had to be revaccinated with the smallpox vaccine, probably diphtheria, etc. I had been vaccinated when I was a baby and have a large scar. I know I didn’t want to have another scar and they said it wouldn’t leave one. And it didn’t.
So is “My Body, My Choice” no longer a thing?
just cheap liberal window dressing
It’s not a vaccine. It is gene therapy.
From what I understand it Limits liability from the Pharm companies
Over 4K died in Europe from the poke.
The first COVID bill limited liabilities, no drug maker can be sued for vaccines or therapeutics related to the COVID-19 response
Two of the companies (Johnson & Johnson and Pfizer) are currently in medical lawsuits having nothing to do with the COVID vaccine. Moderna’s legal history is not great either with fraud, bribery, medical and other types of lawsuits against them. Then there AstraZeneca which several countries overseas have stopped using and/or stopped using with elderly. Oh I could list few thousand other reasons besides the already hundreds of people who have died from the COVID vaccine and thousands with debilitating side effects from the COVID vaccine shot.
Straight answer is that NO i will not be an experimental lab rat for a vaccine that regardless of what happens the company is not liable. I will just learn to only travel to places that I can go by car, and stay away from the communist places that won’t let be in because I am not vaccinated.
Crimes of Covid Vaccine Maker Pfizer Documented
https://www.dmlawfirm.com/crimes-of-covid-vaccine-maker-pfizer-well-documented/?fbclid=IwAR04AiDZDmhDMXpQVpVkYYP-mKQOFdVLLafsR5xT0_EHZjKMJOoafWZOgC8
Vaccines wreak havoc on the immune system, so much that the ability to sue for damages was taken away in the early 90s.
1986?
That cartoon is hilarious, though disturbingly accurate.
Friend of mine is on another forum and she post many toon when she does her posts. she even has two toon days a week. The are days that I admit to her I chuckled and then gasped because of how accurate the toon/s were.
This one is cute funny but oh so true. For some reason they think that teaching gender issues to kids in k-3 will make a difference..H3LL they still trying to learn to read and do math…
Communist centres of indoctrination are only surviving because Conservatives go there. Just don’t give your money to these places. Don’t watch the MSM, don’t go to NBA or NFL or watch or listen to it, don’t engage the Social media and starve the beast. you can already see how it plays out in cities like LA and Chicago and NY….Oh and Maryland. That’s the best example, as the taxes rise, the crimes aren’t solved, justice is only for the rich and powerful, the smart leave first, then the rich who’ve had enough, then the middle class starts emptying out. Then after 30 or 40 years the only ones left are the low income, low IQ, retarded and Democrats though I repeat myself there. That’s the model for how to deal with the left wing institutions in USA. De-fund.
That dem/ victim mentality will continue to play out across the country. They’re just getting started.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/evanston-illinois-becomes-first-u-s-city-pay-reparations-blacks-n1261791
Simple solution. Don’t participate with these leftist indoctrination factories masquerading as institutes of higher learning. Utilize your power of the purse.
If minorities can’t be expected to have IDs to vote then how are they expected to have vaccine passports.
I am sure JoeBama will give them a carve out.
Are these students smart enough to figure this out? Getting your rights back will require a war young people.
Their FB page is getting inundated! I predict they will not survive this tyrannical move!
People are reacting to and dying from the rona vax upto a month after. We know at the least 3964 people have died from this, and well over 160,000 have been injured. Any other time this vax would have been pulled, instead the push has been re-enforced. Now you may need repeated shots to keep yourself in the mobs good graces.
It is obvious that the more times you vaccinate, the higher your risk for death or injury.
Question: is that their plan? At this point you need to ask.
When thousands of young American citizens are made infertile by a University mandate to get a new, not fully FDA approved vaccine in order to continue their studies, how much do you think the University will have to pay out in a class action lawsuit??
One would have to prove that it was the vaccine that made them unable to reproduce. The evidence will not be heard in any court.
First the private sector, then the govt mandates. Will you need papers to grocery shop?
Insanity is putting it lightly.
Sure, I can see they would mandate that. They would tell you it wouldn’t affect you negatively because you can now purchase groceries online and have them delivered.
I can see a time where there won’t be any groceries available to purchase. You’ll have to eat what they deliver or die.
Wasn’t long ago that the little packs of garden seeds were deemed as non-essential items in some states.
Michigan wouldn’t sell seeds and garden tools. That sounds like big brother to me.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicksibilla/2020/04/16/michigan-bans-many-stores-from-selling-seeds-home-gardening-supplies-calls-them-not-necessary/?sh=6ace0bf65f80
So as schools and businesses move to require an experimental vaccine, will they be liable if you have an adverse reaction?
They should be liable if they are forcing you to get the vaccine in order to work or go to school, and you would otherwise not get it.
Butgers can kiss their collective arses goodbye. Nobody will miss them.
We all knew where this was going to lead. It will continue to expand everywhere unless it is stopped. New York state has already begun requiring proof of “vaccination” to visit many venues, and are certain to extend this to just about anything one wants to do in public. Upon reviewing New York’s action, one genius, Amy Fairchild who is the dean of Ohio State, and referred to as an “ethicist” of all things, marveled how wonderful and leading edge the policy was, and blithered how it should immediately be extended to requiring proof of flu and measles vaccinations as well.
Everyone should be free to make their own personal risk assessments and determinations, but mandating this “vaccine” is immoral and most likely illegal. America’s Frontline Doctors is trying to develop leverage to pressure politicians from making this mandatory. Please consider visiting and signing their petition at Stopmedicaldiscrimination.org. They are striving to obtain one million signatures and are still several hundred thousand short of their goal. I signed it and encourage as many of you to do so as well. We need to stop this madness before it becomes unstoppable.
Not “early on there were reports” those reports and additional reports of placental failure in the third trimester, resulting in miscarriages, stillborn if pregnancy continues. Also if the baby survives the vaccine, it will bottle feed but not breastfeed.
mRNA is not a vaccine. It is population control.