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RNC Will Not Back Trump in Primary if He Runs Again, Will Stay Neutral
The Republican National Committee (RNC) will not back former President Trump if he chooses to run for office again in 2024 and will instead remain neutral, RNC chair Ronna McDaniel indicated in a Wednesday interview with the Associated Press.
“The party has to stay neutral. I’m not telling anybody to run or not to run in 2024,” McDaniel said, walking the fine line as polls continue to indicate that a sizeable portion of the GOP base continues to back and support the former president.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/01/27/rnc-will-not-back-trump-in-primary-if-he-runs-again-will-stay-neutral/
Translation, Donald Trump is good for our money gathering efforts and the machines will take care of the rest.
She also had the nerve to say she wanted his help in the 2022 primaries. But won’t support him in 2024.
She’s voicing the old way and is cluelessness personified.
Kitty-Kat: It runs in the family.
thedocoo, A Very Astute Translation.
Even if trumps says to give money to RNC not a penny will go to them from me.
Just so we are clear about this – the GOP didn’t back DJTrump in 2016 either. Only after he won the primaries did they begin to acknowledge his legitimacy and even then it was widely rumored that they were planning a floor nomination at the convention. Only his overwhelming popularity prevented that.
True.. and against all odds, Trump still won. He has MORE power now with 75 million voters who are NOT loyal to the R party.
That’s where the “Dominion” voting machines come into the picture. Both RNC & DNC are hustling the vote. At that presser with Giuliani & Co. Sidney Powell said the vote-machine companies like Dominion are in bizz to collect big fees from politicians who want to secure & protect their “incumbency.” It’s every bit rotten right down to the ground. The Declaration and The Constitution are all that remains untainted.
True. We need a major overhaul of all election processes and systems in all 50 states.
My guess is Trump will have a strategy to fix the election system… bc that is priority 1.
Remember HR 1 will cement voter fraud into law. We can only pray that some Democrats will say enough is enough. HR 1 is the Bill from hell.
Agree.
If President Trump were to enter the primary for President or Congress, he would crush the Republican front runner by such a margin that Dominion could not even put the fix in.
For the right price, they have Dominion over us instead of “for, by and of the people” as we are all well aware.
Right now the hottest discussion seems to be about starting a new party vs. reclaiming the corrupt GOP.
As someone who has worked boots on the ground in local NY politics, I agree with this article that trying to start a new third party would be a disaster.
I urge everyone to read this and if they disagree, please explain why:
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/01/a_new_party_a_recipe_for_failure.html
The Republican party is dead right now. Have you spoken to any young Republicans who supported President Trump? They have had it and want something new.
The Republican brand has been destroyed by 1) the Dems and their MSM 2) the RINOs and Chamber of Commerce Republicans who stand for nothing but agreeing to collect lobby money and lose gracefully. 3) Mitt Romney and Liz Cheney (who almost singlehandedly ended the party by an absurd and illegitimate Impeachment of a President that had just won 74 million votes.
I reregistered after voting straight party line for more than 30 years. Many people i know have reregistered already and others plan to do so. These are protest moves.and demonstrate further damage to the brand.
No one wants to be associated with the swamp Republicans. The song you are singing and the song in the American Thinker article is the same, old song they have been singing for years. They talk us out of it and they squash us. This time we need to bite the bullet and go our own way.
When we do that, you will see that they have very little actual voter appeal and support. My prediction is they are the ones that will fade away if we stand strong and go third party, making them the de facto third party. We will be a new form of one of the two parties, whatever President Trump who is great with branding chooses to call it.
You weren’t listening. TRUMP said he will remain a Republican and not start a 3rd party.
Most certainly Trump weighed the pros & cons of a new party… and concluded that the SMART move was to TAKE CONTROL over the existing R party especially since Rs are so close to controlling both the House and Senate in 2022.
Obviously we MUST do all we can to stop or at least SLOW Biden’s mad dash to run the USA train over the cliff.
We were also ATTACKED by Communist China. We cannot ignore that reality.
I didn’t not hear President Trump say that, nor have I read a post in any existing uncensored social media app (Gab, Telegram, Clouthub) that I KNOW came from his fingers. I have only read third hand reports of his taking that position.
Can you or anyone point to a source that irrefutably confirms that Donald J. Trump himself has stated that as a fact?
That’s a fair point.
I believe the stmt was made by DJT’s “spokesman” not Trump directly.
Also Rudy said he would remain an R too and focus on extracting the Rinos from the R party, certainly all that cannot be … controlled going forward.
The key is WHO controls the R party agenda going forward? Only MAGA Trump/we have the …. power and leverage. The establishment Rs/rinos REALLY do not.
I am not a loyal R anymore even though I have been for over 30 yrs.
IF, after his mtg w/McCarthy, Trump says forget it. We will start a 3rd party I WILL go with Trump & the america 1st agenda …immediately.
But … I do NOT want revenge more than i want to SAVE America.
“The key is WHO controls the…” voting machines. And right now the Communists who staged a coup against a duly elected President, control the voting machines. Until the People get back control of the voting machines, NOTHING else matters.
Absolutely true which is why election reform is priority #1.
Agree! Dems don’t care what party they are stealing from!
Probably is more truth to your assertion than anything else stated in this comments section.
And not just the machines, but the entire reporting and tabulation process.
And I wouldn’t trust that process to anyone in the current GOP hierarchy.
There can be no viable Party of any kind without Election Integrity.
Debating a new Party or the takeover of the old Party (which was, at least, the direction Donald Trump was moving in the last four years) should be done from within a much larger discussion. And that context is whether or not we can have, constitutionally decided, free and fair elections going forward.
What Donald Trump has done in the last two elections is make election fraud, which was always there, visible to more Americans.
Democrats were caught by surprise in 2016, and could not move fast enough on Election Day to reset and coordinate the system in order to overcome the Trump stampede from the suburbs and exurbs in the swing states. The problem was corrected, however, and stress tested by Democrats who harvested the 2018 midterms in Arizona, California, and Georgia. They were better prepared this time under the Covid Crisis.
However, the Stampede was even greater in 2020 for the ‘promises made promise kept’ incumbent…an unexpected 12million votes greater…so the cheating was grotesquely out of control and very visible this time!
Every point you have made is accurate to the best of my knowledge.
So the discussion shifts not to “what party” but instead to “what voting system?”
Since we cannot trust EITHER the incumbent DemoCommunists or the Establishment RepubliCONs in Congress, OR the key state Governors / executive officers OR sate legislatures, HOW do we get control of the voting process back into honest hands??
Please listen to me. I’ve worked on a lot of campaigns.
We have to get rid of the Zuckerberg ballot drop boxes and mobile voting RVs first. This is what flipped the elections in Pennsylvania, Georgia, and Wisconsin. With ballot drop boxes you have ballot harvesting. You can go thru an apartment building and pay for votes, then drop them in the ballot drop boxes hundreds at a time. Absentee ballots must be dropped off in person at the County Clerk’s office, and you must present voter ID. In person does not mean at a ballot drop box as the Wisconsin Election Commission ruled. This idiotic ruling must be removed by law in all states. Also, get rid of the mobile voting RVs. I would minimize all mail-in and absentee ballots. The only exceptions are Overseas and Military which are described by Federal Laws, and the indefinitely confined. Again, “indefinitely confined” must be described by law in great detail. The Wisconsin Election Commission ruled that indefinitely confined means if you think you are indefinitely confined, then you are. Nonsense!
Next, we have to get the Libertarians out of the General Election. Trump lost Georgia, Wisconsin, and Arizona because of the Libertarian. David Perdue lost his senate seat for the same reason. In short, the Libertarians cost us the Presidency and the Senate. We need a rule that says only the top two (with no write-ins) advance to the General Election.
He can’t leave the deceptiCON party until until after the shampeachment fallout. Then, IMHO, all bets are off.
And that’s the crux of the whole situation. Trump has to play nice right now.
Kare508, my senators are not up for reelection. I voted for them because Trump asked me to, but I will not vote for a republican incumbent senator again. The insanity of voting for the lesser of two evils has to end. That is why we are in this Uniparty mess. We have to experience the pain for anything to change.
I agree — voting 4 the lesser of 2 evils doesn’t work.
Both McConnell and Lindsay just won 6 more yrs in the senate. They remain regardless of whether we start a 3rd party…. as do MANY more Rs. IF Rs want any power, they must they must obey the rules — ours.
McCarthy gets it. That is WHY he is in Maralago.
Even if we– as a 3rd party– won ALL seats up 4 election in 2022, that would split the Rs/Trump army….. and the far more dangerous dem/fascists WOULD control the US GOVT totally….and state legislatures too.
Exactly. The key point to that is we acknowledge they are both evil – we should never choose evil. That’s why the US is so corrupt at every level and institution because we’ve compromised with evil.
It’s all about the primary. Republican vs Republican. That’s where Trump and his followers make their move.
President Trump is the master. It’s called leverage.
Donald Trump is free to do as he pleases. I will no longer do the same thing expecting a different result.
We as a country are on a path to peaceful break-up, hot war, or Maoist dictatorship. There’s no stopping this – we just don’t know which we will get.
Lulu: I feel the same. I’m going my own way.
Personally I believe that just about ALL so called Western Democracies are due for a fundamental shift away from politics as usual – if there is ANY chance of regaining and sustaining our core values of individual freedom – the ONLY way to achieve this is by new alliances and thinking. For to long, and probably why we have sunk into a BS uni-party, big money driven, divide and rule voter coma, is the fact that they have managed to dull us into endless internal “squabbles” such that we actually forget what is important. I think a lot of people (hopefully) are waking up to just how delicate and easily damaged those freedoms are – and perhaps for the first time are starting to appreciate and understand the alternative. In that light I propose we begin looking to forge alliances (a new party??) based on shared core freedom/democratic beliefs, and not on historical party lines. There are surely millions of “former” party members from all “mainstream” that are sick of it, are totally disillusioned and ANGRY. We need to unite, because this is not a Left Right, Con Lib, Con Labor (UK) thing, as much as they would want to keep it, this is about Freedom vs Slavery, Democracy vs Dictatorship, Truth vs Lies, Humans vs Humanoids.
We cannot leave the dem/fascist party in tact and capable of controlling ALL power for years.
The singular focus here is nonsensically just about destroying the R party.
No one seems concerned about destroying the Dem party too. Why not?
They are a uniparty. At the top, they want the same things, money and power for themselves and alignment with globalist interests. They do not work for the interests of the American people. I will not support either branch of that uniparty.
Because we can’t destroy the left side of the uniparty – we aren’t their voters/supporters. We can destroy the right side of the uniparty and by doing so we destroy the current two-party fiction.
There were always a lot of young people at those gigantic Trump rallies. When the real squashing starts, President Trump will be running the show. Imagine Trump traveling to every state where a Senate seat is contested and holding a rally for his chosen primary candidate. I have no doubt that DJT is vetting potential candidates at this very moment. President Trump is preparing to eat the breakfast, lunch and dinner of slimeballs Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan, John Boehner, et effin cetera. Those GOPe toads cannot draw files at a free-lunch picnic. When Trump puts out the word about a Rally, many-many thousands of people will be prepared to attend. Trump owns RNC and they know it, too.
maxxheadroom, and just what difference will that make without election integrity? The pressure has to be on the republican state legislatures who allowed it. It all starts LOCAL, your county election commissioners and party officials up to your state representative and senator.
If this isn’t done, nothing else matters.
That’s where real leadership ability comes to the front. I believe it is possible to accomplish both things at once, once a real plan is laid out. Cleaning up the vote and electing politicians of a more honest character can be accomplished simultaneously. There are millions of us who are willing to work hard to get it done. But it cannot be accomplished at all without diligent, effective leadership.
DJT has been making complex plans and carrying them out for all of his professional life. I hope and pray that Mr. Trump does not lose heart. I hope and pray that Mr. Trump will continue to hold those rallies and outline his plans for redress and reform of U.S. government. I believe that at least 100 million people are ready to get busy if they are guided by the excellent leadership skills that Donald John Trump has put on display.
The Tea Party Movement was crushed by GOPe because there was no skillful nationally known leader at the helm. I was powerless to stop Jenny Beth Martin from being co-opted by a GOPe “political consultant.” We’ve got an opportunity here that Mr. Trump himself created out of (practically) thin air; he understood the mood of the nation and galvanized that mood into what he, early on, called “a movement.” Anyone with common sense can tell that the enthusiasm for what President Trump began has not waned, but instead is growing. People who believe in the work that Mr. Trump began are waiting for his next move. That move is his, and no one else’s.
If Donald Trump decides to spend the rest of his life guiding and supporting the movement he inspired and brought to life, I believe he will succeed in restoring a semblance of good order to our Constitutional government. Those of us who worship God in Christ know that no government of the present day will survive the Second Advent of Christ. If God our Father strengthens Donald J. Trump and the movement he began, then we’ll know the Second Advent is still a ways off. Otherwise, I’d say we’re nearer than many think to events described in Revelations 11: https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/rev/11/1/s_1178001
In the final analysis we will all see that we got to the bad place we’re in now because too many pastors, priests and rabbis did not maintain the discipline and order of God our Father’s simple commandments. Instead too many religious leaders have become slack, corrupt man-pleasers. That’s basically why we are in the mess we’re in now. Even little children in school are being taught that “god” is an option, not a necessity. God our Father owns all souls and all the goods of this world. He will dispose of things as He sees fit. Godspeed We The People. Godspeed Donald John Trump.
Rallies won’t matter when Voter Fraud is allowed to win. Until the unsolicited mail in ballots and fraud are eliminated none of our votes will be counted.
Good points about the damaged brand.
Dems can steal an election from a third party just as easy as they did from the Republicans. We need a secure vote before talking new party.
Yes. But ….let’s admit that platitude is easy to recite.
The difficult part is how to actually restore the election process with enough integrity to overcome whatever fraud is attempted (and fraud will always be attempted).
Something tells me that requires getting pro-MAGA officials into the authoritative positions in every key state government – such as Governor, State Attorney General, State Election Supervisor, etc. Those people appear to have final say of the election process unless the state legislature passes exceedingly clear and constitutional voting laws that prohibit along with imposing WITH HARSH PENALTIES for any and all of the election fraud crime we saw committed in multiple polling and ballot counting locations this past November.
Also the Republican-controlled state legislatures must have an overwhelming majority of pro-MAGA Republicans (or pro-MAGA third party representatives – whichever way that DJ trump recommends we go).
A stolen party should be put to rights.
President Trump understands the importance of rooting out the corruption Washington. I don’t believe for one minute he’s going to start a 3
rd party. I’m guessing he’s holding his cards tight until after the impeachment sham. Then he’ll tell us his plan to reform the republican party. Just my gut feeling 🙂
Follow the money. The root cause of the ‘corruption’ in our government is that their funding sources, CoC, CCP, Davos, Wall Street and Cartels are at polar opposites of what is in the best interests of the majority of voters.
Once our Representatives are 100% funded by MAGA interests they will become aligned towards MAGA issues. Part of that agreement will be a contract that they cannot raise funding ‘except’ from MAGA approved sources.
How might the entrenched establishment repubs be persuaded to leave and give up their power? It could take a decade to weed them out and in the meantime the split in the party ranks will nullify any hope of election wins for the foreseeable future for maga candidates if any can get nominated.
Sorry. If a new party is not started asap, one that reduces the current repub party to third party minority status, then it will be a long hard road to any victories, in federal offices especially.
But to each his own. It will be apparent very shortly where this is going to go because wasting too much time will negate a new party as a force for the near future anyway. Time is running fast and short on options to turn things around.
Seneca…these are they types of arguments that will further splinter the Trump supporters. We have people in the following camps:
There is probably some more groups that will splinter off from these, but that is price we pay for being individualists and not group thinkers like liberals/progressives/socialists.
booger- RIGHT THE HELL ON!
The reason the Dirt Dems beat us is because while we are busy politely discussing the nuance of party politics, they are out there AS A GROUP working to destroy US.
No matter what, the Dems always stick together and work to destroy our side.
Time to stop playing THEIR game. STOP bickering amongst ourselves and attacking one another. We are making it easy for them to kill us.
Is it wrong to think the only reason the GOP exists is to stop a true, united opposition to the Marxists democrats? The holier than God members of the GOP actually help the demonrats by their oh so pure attitude that they supported baby killer Joe Biden because President Trump sends out mean tweets or they voted 3rd party so they could have clean hands. In other years I’ve voted 3rd party but NOT in 2020! Being the deep thinkers the NEverTrumpers are, the saying Orang Man Bad was all they needed to hear to cheer on lifetime leftist Joe BIden.
Booger/Seneca
Why cant we do all four at the same time. We have the numbers.
It is human nature to gravitate to what is working. President Trump did not go get everyone’s agreement and then decide to run. He had a plan he believed in enough to run on and his conviction won over those that thought it was some farce. That conviction eventually led to two massive wins at the polls.
So lets move forward on each and let time and success will be the driving factors that prove which is going to reclaim this country in Freedom.
The Constitutional Resurrection that we need won’t happen in a single act or single strategy. We need to throw everything and the kitchen sink at this for a long time.
I disagree. Republicans as they are right now, are part of the Uniparty. We cannot be a united party without first rooting out ALL the traitors. If there are too many of them, then the old Republican party is not worth saving and a new one is the best option.
Agree, their cohesiveness and unified front are part of their power. It also doesn’t hurt to have the entire media and Internet kings on your side too.
My hunch is we are all waiting to get an idea from President Trump as to the type of plan we can unite behind to make the changes that are needed; and until this impeachment gambit is completed, we continue to process all the events both past and present.
Big Tech might think it is in the drivers seat as far as people being heard, but just like the traders over at reddit have shown, deplorables are an inventive lot and we will hear soon enough what the President Trump approach will be.
What happens if “reclaiming the corrupt GOP” isn’t successful? My touchstone is what McConnell did in Mississippi when the senile Senator Thad Cochran was challenged! I will not vote for Uniparty candidate Kikki Haley for President! No more votes from me for the lesser of two evils! That is the risk of failing to “reclaim” (as if we ever owned it) the GOP from the GOPe the loss of millions of voters. The way GOP Senators and Congressmen have treated President Trump accusing him of insurrection and lying about the election being stolen I just have difficulty seeing how that can be changed from within? At least if there is a third party with the stamp of President Trump on it I will continue to vote. The country is at a crossroads and it might just be that taking the road less traveled is the way out. I just don’t know. God help us!
Bubby- do you have any experience working in your town or city within one of the political parties?
Have you ever worked to get someone elected? By that I mean getting the nomination, carrying petitions, getting donations.
Do you honestly think it’s possible to get another party up and running in all 50 states in time for 2022?
If so you are mistaken.
I was thinking more of the 2024 Presidential election. Let me flip your question around do you believe the GOP can be reclaimed by 2022? I assume you don’t. I haven’t committed to a new party yet I’m still pondering that. All I was emphasizing was if in 2024 both Presidential candidates are from the Uniparty I won’t bother to vote. I have regretted voting for Dole, both Bushes, McCain and Romney and refuse to do that, just won’t do that again. I’m keeping my powder dry right now and will wait to see how events unfold. But dislodging the GOPe from the GOP maybe equally as difficult as getting another party up and running. IMHO
My brother has been elected to borough council and twice as a Trump delegate. When he ran for Representative in his PA district, he went to the state G OP for support. They said “come back after you get your first million dollars and we’ll discuss it then.” He tried running without their support and ended up backing out and supporting one of the other candidates . I did go door to door getting his petition signed. The state G Op is deeply entrenched in PA, and they have w worked actively against President Trump and his supporters, like my brother. I don’t see that situation being fixed and time soon. Their people have the connections and the money, and they always get their candidates in.
jrn-thanks for your comment and the information. It’s obvious that you know what you’re talking about.
Let me ask you this, since I don’t know the election rules in PA, let me ask you this: which would be easier or at least more plausible, to get more people in place within your local GOP or to start a new party?
This is my sentiment exactly. I will no longer vote for a RINO just because he/she is the lesser of two evils. There really isn’t much of a difference and perhaps taking a few out will show the GOP we mean business. Or should I say, business as usual is no longer acceptable.
Tricky Nikki will never get my vote either.
Strategically and logistically, it would be a mistake—an unforced error. However, the GOP gets NO money from me. Until everyone of the GOPe is gone and replaced, they get no dough from me.
Ghost- you just hit the nail on the head.
From now on we do not donate one red cent to ANY Republican candidate on any level unless they are proven MAGA.
Take that 2 billion dollars and find a way to get around the propaganda of fake news with a new media outlet and blogs. We don’t watch fox or newsmax anymore and oan can’t afford the legal fees but 2 million $ goes a long way to get the truth and the vote out if President Trump were behind it. He could simply vet and pick his MAGA candidates and announce them via media mentioned above.
Best to follow President Trumps lead. Either way we need to get rid of mcconnel and his ilk.
It will take years to get rid of them, if ever. Do we have that time? I don’t think so.
Totally agree. We don’t have years to tinker around the edges with rebuilding a corrupt party. Drastic measures are required right now before the Socialist Democrats completely ruin the entire country.
Cjzak- we definitely don’t have time to get a third part up and running in all 50 states in the next year.
I agree. The issue with the GOPe and the uniparty in general is that they are stooges of the CoC, CCP, Davos, Wall Street and Cartels ‘because’ that is who funds them. If you don’t solve that problem you won’t fix the Republican party or even a new 2nd Party.
The take over of the Republican party begins and ends with ‘aligning’ its funding ‘with’ the objectives of its voters. MAGA funding = MAGA Representatives = Happy MAGA voters.
Seneca is correct. As this article points out and as common sense would dictate, it is easier to take over and fix an existing structure than start from scratch. All of us need to get involved.
The left has spent decades taking over existing structures like schools, churches, the Boy Scouts and numerous other institutions The Antonio Gramsci model of the Communist long march through the institutions has worked to perfection.
The key phrase is “has spent decades . . . .”
Time is of the essence. Four years after President Trump won,the existing GOP is actively working against him. I do not see many in the party falling in line with Trump’s mission in the future.
Little sense in beating a dead party hoping to revive it into a new, unified entity with the same old representatives.
Opinions vary but I would disagree with the conclusion that a third party would only include former Republicans and also that it would remain a minority party.
Do we even have time to find out?
How would you go about starting this new party in all 50 states and get it up and running with candidates before the 2022 election?
Or are you willing to sacrifice the country to the Demonics without any real opposition?
Please know that I hate the GOP as much as anyone! President Trump is the ONLY reasons that I got back involved last go around. I am trying to be practical by advocating for reformation rather than starting from scratch.
Primarying incumbents is a daunting and in overwhelming cases unsuccessful task.The GOP elite control everything,including the money flow.For years people like you have urged us to vote for RINOs because of the alternatives.Stupidly we have listened to you.Never again.President Trump desperately tried to keep the party unified and endorsed every RINO in the party.And for that they stabbed him in the back.His poor judgement in doing so ,coupled with the horrific personnel choices he made was extremely disappointing.Many on here have stated they will follow his lead on the matter of forming a new party or trying to take over the GOP.I have tremendous respect for President Trump,but he is not some infallible idol.After over 50 years of voting straight Republican I have walked away and won’t be coming back.Not a dime,no volunteering and no votes,unless that candidate has proved by action ,not just words, that they are a MAGA candidate.
Am America First Party can obtain leverage much faster than a Don Quixote type effort to retake a party in the control of such corrupt individuals.By either endorsing a true MAGA candidate running as a Republican or running a candidate against a RINO and destroying that candidate’s political career the third party’s leverage either forces reform within the GOP in order to survive or insures it’s place in the dustbin of failed political parties.
The GOP brand has been severely damaged.Many MAGA Democrats and independents want nothing to do with the GOP.The Republican Party is an obstacle in the path to our defeat of the Communists.Only a coalition of MAGA Republicans,Democrats and Independents can accomplish that. One needs look only to the 2018 midterms to see the difference in the support given to President Trump in 2016 and Republican Congressional candidates.Only a third party can form the coalition needed to stop the advance of Communism.There are enough of us who will walk away to in sure the destruction of the GOP one way or another.The Republicans cannot win without us.
Seneca, I bookmarked the article you shared. Wise words everyone should ponder. We’re feeling like jilted lovers. Betrayed isn’t too strong a term for what the RINOs of the swamp did, and continue to do. There is no quick fix. We need to fix the GOP from the ground up. The good thing, is that a politically wounded Donald Trump is a truly dangerous adversary. They have effed-up. Some of the Dems and swampers know it. The rest are about to find out.
Re-making the GOP is on his list. How about “re-imagining it?” That’s tody’s term. Remember the scene from “The Untouchables” were Al Capone uses a baseball bat to express his displeasure with his crew? I’ll buy DJT a new bat.
LOVE^^^^
Of course they are going to warn about a 3rd party. That’s what they always do. They are terrified, because we will wipe them out and they know it.
The Republican Party is already dead and they just don’t know it yet.
Don’t let them discourage us from starting anew. They are using the “old model.” None of them represent the vast majority of Americans anymore.
Besides, about 80% of them are going to be wiped out pretty quickly and will need to be replaced by Patriots.
Don’t fall for the old tricks of “getting us back in line.”
So true. Republican voters suffer from battered wives syndrome. We get sweet talked into voting for them again and again, only to suffer the same garbage we vowed to never put up with.
I agree. Maga voters must take over the GOP in 2022. It is the host and we are the new occupiers.
The likes of Romney, McConnell, McCarthy et all must be voted out or kicked out- whichever comes 1st. This will be a long process, but it needs to happen. There will be losses but the future of our country is at stake.
Seneca, I agree strongly with the article. The republican party has generally been pusillanimous in most everything except taking donations and attempting to weave quasi cogent phrases for votes. The article is excellent. From this and the discussion here I see three things (among others) we can individually and collectively do.
1) Participate in the selection of suitable candidates at the local level for all offices. Vote in primaries and where possible participate in the selection process. Not voting is giving the opposition control.
2) Identify, start, participate, and support PACs that fund and support candidates with our collective ideals. This would provide the money for candidates. Also these PACs should provide a web site that shows the values being promoted and how the donations are being used.
3) Participate and promote discussions such as is happening here at the Treehouse. We gain much by sharing ideas and concepts as you do (and thank you for your discussions). Share sites that promote such values here and with others.
Again, thank you Seneca for your discussion. Any further thoughts or ideas are welcome.
EE- thanks for your excellent and very practical comment.
I hope everyone here realizes that I am not particularly thrilled about working with the GOP, especially the corrupt leadership which I have to deal with even in my own county and town.
Based on my experience, it just seems to me that we have a better chance to reform the existing party and use the infrastructure than to start from scratch with such a short timeline.
I will read the article, but agree that a third party is the wrong move. It would have Democrats giddy with happiness because of the split Republican vote it would cause.
It would not be very difficult to take over the Republican party like the far left did to the Democrat party. A BIG turnout in 2022 and a BIG turnout in 2024 of Trump supporters, as well as disenfranchised Republicans and Democrats after Biden destroys the country is not out of the question.
Seneca, thank you for the link. I read it twice, and parts of it more times to make sure I didn’t miss the author’s reasoning, where he used any. IMHO that article has too many poorly thought out and/ or false assertions and assumptions.
Here is one (IMHO) false assertion: “Without question the party has deteriorated into a slimy gang of backstabbers, hustlers, and opportunists, so bad they’re even inept at their cheap hustles.”
The GOP Party masters are far from inept. They know **exactly** how to achieve what they WANT to achieve. Our evidence is – look at the tax cuts for businesses that they passed quickly in December 2017 versus repealing ObozoCare. Look at how many judges McConnell got approved in less than 4 years. They wanted those judges. Unfortunately, now we know why they wanted those particular judges. They wanted President Trump out of office and they found a strategy that worked to get it done.
Another bad assumption (IMHO): “Any new conservative party would be a minority party. Yes, Trump voters comprise 70-80 million, but they’re not all Republicans and they’re not all ready to jump ship.”
Really? The author Dunn readily admits that Trump supporters are “not all Republicans” so …..do those folks care what party label a proven MAGA candidate like Trump adopts? Someone will have to provide more evidence that they would actually care about party label than what Dunn has shown (none).
Also, how does Dunn know that the new “party would be a minority party”? Because of one single poll, the authors about which we know very little nor how the questions were worded nor who they polled nor where they polled, are we willing to concede to Dunn that conclusion? I’m not. That poll was run suspiciously fast and pushed suspiciously hard out to a lot of conservative platforms. Pardon me but my gut is sensing that something is off here. I don’t yet see any other polls on that subject. Since when do we take the results of ONE poll and draw conclusions or develop strategy from it?
Because of the unreal amount of lying, backstabbing and blatant disingenuousness from too many elements within the GOP, I don’t trust anything from them unless President Trump himself says it or it can be verified that he wrote it.
Dunn asserts – “It (a third party) would isolate conservatives, establishing a political ghetto that could be easily attacked and caricatured.”
Oh come on! Please tell us how that would be ANY different than what we’ve been experiencing for the past 30 years??? The GOP Party Masters HATE CONSERVATIVES because the Masters are controlled by the Media and the globalist BIG MONEY donors who are ALSO scared of negative media. They have NEVER wanted Tea Party or MAGA policies.
Dunn then makes (IMHO) a completely erroneous assumption in the next paragraph after the above ridiculous whine.
“Mainstream conservatives did something similar in the 70s and 80s by migrating out of the political mainstream into their own system of think-tanks and activist organizations………..There is an extreme danger that any new party would end up the same way.”
No, IMHO there isn’t an “extreme danger” of the pro-MAGA Patriot Party going off like Romney, Bill Kristol, Karl Rove, the Bushes, or ANY of the feckless anti-MAGA azzholes who either helped to engineer the massive fraud in November or participate in the GOPs deafening silence about it afterwards. Then those same traitors couldn’t jump fast enough in front of microphones or post tweets to accuse the President of inciting the Antifa-led melee at the Capitol on January 6.
No, the people who start and join a viable pro-MAGA third party are doing it precisely because they ARE the majority/ mainstream voters who are fed up with the GOPe Party Losers who won’t support much less enact the policies that pro-MAGA voters demand.
I could keep going but these are but a few examples of why I do not agree with the assertions or conclusions in that article.
Thank you for your time.
Yes; you are correct. These people are not neutral. They are spineless and cowards. As for the chairwoman, she is a loser. Once a Romney, always a Romney.
I grew up with Romney’s. Still dealing with Romney’s. The ones who didn’t carry the Romney last name but have Romney DNA made sure people knew they were a Romney.
They were and still are holier than thou, very fake…. and it shows.
They believe they are the Chosen ones.
All the more reason to dump the RNC – New Party – The APP to get is the American Peoples Party.
And then she (Ronna McDaniel) had the unmitigated frikkin gall to say that she wanted President Trump to back republican (deleted)s for 2022.
still wound too tight, I guess. I just about threw my laptop through the patio door. AARRGGGHH these PEOPLE!
It is possible that Ronna has to appease the never Trumpers who are still prevalent in Washington. If they find the Biden communists decide to line them up and shoot them, they may reconsider the error of their ways. But not before then.
IMO, Ronna is part of the problem and not part of the solution. She needs to be removed.
Apparently, nobody at the RNC has grasped the fact they have become irrelevant.
Another dynamic of ‘follow the money’ is that as GOPe Representatives lose power to MAGA, their ability to swing votes towards the interests of the CoC, CCP, Davos, Wall Street and Cartels, will diminish along with their traditional funding sources.
What remains of the GOPe (RINOs + RATs) will leave office, join MAGA and its MAGA funding sources or ‘officially’ become Democrats (ie Kleptocrats) to reacquire the corrupt money stream.
Because the Tea Party didn’t fix the money stream, our promising MAGA Representatives all became corrupted or were marginalized or left office one way or the other. Keep in mind PDJT showed us the way, he was completely independent of the anti-MAGA corrupted money.
One cannot serve two masters.
Its 2022 we r concerned about now… AND… demanding the restoration of authentic elections… and ENDING the Dems’ decades long ORCHESTRATED systemic ELECTION FRAUD.
DJT already said he’s not interested in running in 2024. He was focused on 2020. That may change … in the future. 2022 is next.
Not sure why no one seems to care about the certain demise of America if we do not fight AND if we apply ZERO constraints against the Dem/fascists… and HAND them TOTAL control over the fed and state govts by splitting the R party so it CANNOT win… anything.
WHO do we have a better chance of controlling– dems or Rs? Not rocket science.
Maybe instead of JUST the revenge talk… those determined to start a 3rd party could reason through HOW to do it, b4 2022… and HOW to defeat the DEMS with a 3rd party.
There are pros and cons to doing both. I speculated b4 on both.
I think, with DJT’s help, we CAN bring the Rs to… heal. The Tea Party was not 70 million strong. This would obviously not be a mere repeat of that.
Many said Trump is MORE powerful out of the WH. Personally i disagree. But NOW, many do NOT want to follow Trump’s LEAD unless it is to a 3rd party. How us that rational?
IF Trump had said he was starting a 3rd party, I WOULD go with him immediately bc I would have realized HE WEIGHED THE PROS & CONS TOO… and decided a Patriot Party was the best way forward… but he DOES NOT … so now a bunch want to start a 3rd party and NOT TO VOTE FOR ANY R AGAIN…. so does that mean many are also willing to toss Trump overboard too?
Anger is red hot. I get it… but time to be TACTICAL and smart.
Maybe some need to figure out what their PRIMARY motive is– SAVE the Republic OR get revenge– however deserved– against the Rs.
The RNC will back Trump and the America 1st agenda… bc it will have no choice. The RNC… cannot function at all with NO ARMY of Rs willing to volunteer, organize, donate…. and vote.
The fact that Trump COULD summon McCarthy to Maralago… and he went… should tell u McCarthy GETS that establishment Rs, including himself, have NO power over 70 million R voters. TRUMP and WE have the power, right?
Trump has the “power” presently…
But, if he chooses to stay with the spineless g.o.p. his “power” will disappear in one helluva hurry…
Says who? You?
Trump created the America 1st agenda.
HE fought for it. HE implementex it.
You think a bunch of revenge seeking Rs and… apparently EX-trumpers can carry TRUMP’s agenda forward SUCCESSFULLY via a 3rd party? Think again cowboy.
Carry it forward … without Trump? No way.
THAT is attempting the Tea Party tactic with even LESS power and leverage than the Tea Party had.
Teddy Roosevelt did start a 3rd party… bc he was SO popular with the people, he figured he could do it… and win.
TR… LOST.
No doubt Trump considered that too. The objective IS to WIN, right? To STOP the dems/fascists from totally destroying America and OUR FREEDOM & LIBERTY, right?
And if not to stop the dem/fascists then… WHAT is the point of a 3rd party other than… mere revenge against our SOB Rs?
PDJT has already experienced a 3rd party: The Reform Party.
Do some homework on that.
Newsflash: It didn’t work.
He wasn’t a former experienced president then, not to mention a proven track record. That was when he was “the Donald.” Now he is the lion. (I’m on the fence about a third party….)
Kare – Teddy R started a third party on purpose to split the vote and elect Woodrow. Corruption been here a long time, time to really root it out.
“The conspirators had a problem, however. President William Howard Taft had made it clear he would veto such a bill if it was introduced. They had to make sure he would not win reelection. They first supported ex-President Teddy Roosevelt in the Republican primaries, but he failed to get the nomination. The bankers then supported the Democratic contender, Woodrow Wilson.
In exchange for their support, Wilson promised to sign their bill into law. But the polls indicated that Wilson would only draw about 45 percent of the votes. The bankers needed someone who could draw a sufficient number of Republican votes away from Taft without harming their Democratic candidate. They arranged for Teddy Roosevelt to run against both men by representing a newly invented third party: the “Bull Moose” party.
The plan worked. The Federal Reserve Bill was held until December 23 (two days before Christmas!) before it was presented to the House and Senate. Only those senators and congressmen who had not gone home for the holidays – those who owed favors to, or were on the payroll of, the bankers – were present to sign the legislation.
The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 was a deliberate charade to pacify the American voters. They’d been crying out for banking reform and had held scores of elections, alternating one set of politicians with another, only to find themselves with the same programs and deeper debt. ”
https://www.khouse.org/enews_article/2006/1038/print/ For some background on this-
Please…. Rep TR… did not start a 3rd party TO elect dem Wilson. He did it to win himself
NAILED IT- BINGO!
Not a 3rd party – a second party is needed . In case you missed it, we now have only one party called a UNIPARTY.
Says the many , many voters who will NEVER vote for a republican again.
They already had the chance to do that, remember? And they REFUSED. But now some magic pony dust is gonna cause them to to “see the light?” When Perot ran the Tea Party movement wasn’t big enough to carry him. Today with 75 million people it still isn’t big enough when the remnants of the GOP are frauds themselves. Hello?
I think it’s closer to 100,000,000 votes….
If truth be told, I think he won California.
I think we won CA too.
I don’t think the repub party cares if they are second fiddle forever. They did not fight like they cared. They could have done much more to secure a fair election and support their candidate, PTrump. It’s we the people who care and we need a party that cares just as much to function in the main political arena nationally. It ain’t the republican party.
Lets … wait to hear Trump’s plan for winning the country over to America 1st policies
The policies agenda are the goal. How we get there – via R party or 3rd party– is not actually important.
It definitely gives them a built-in defense for their constant inaction… harder to do when they have power.
Kare508, McCarthy has called for unity asking those criticizing Lizzy and the ones who voted to impeach Trump to stop bickering and stick together. Yet he apparently has no criticism for them and supports her in the leadership position.
The first thing McCarthy needs to do is resign.
EXCELLENT summary.
See this article:
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/01/a_new_party_a_recipe_for_failure.html
Keep in mind, the MAGA is not 70 million strong because the legacy GOP is still alive and well. I’m not sure just how many of those 70 million are MAGA but all a third party will do is split the GOP and give the Democrats super majorities.
We must be smart and I think President Trump is laying low until after the impeachment so as not to tip his hand. If the current GOP thought he would start a third party they might possibly vote for him to be impeached.
As hard as it is for us to wait on DJT, it’s probably harder for him to “keep quiet” right now. Patience is needed, at least for now.
Yes… that is why trump summoned McCarthy to Maralago
I have been on other sites, reading articles and comments. People still believe in the GOP. Still believe voting for any Republican is still the way to go. Don’t believe the DemoCommies are as bad as I say they are, and so on and so forth. Too many still have their heads in the sand
Dear spoiled:
That’s my last straw.
I’ve been toying with the ideas of never voting again; switching parties; getting more involved at the local government level.
I’m sure of this…I’m done with the “GOP”.
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Oops…spell check got me.
Meant spoogles not spoiled. ?
Screwel them. Who needs them ! P. Trump is still the real President & soon will be back in the White House this year for 4 more years. Kat Kerr prophecy. They cannot understand that God has appointed P Trump and it will be so.
Staying optimistic, I like that. I expect the Big One in Cali, any minute. Sort of a Wake-Up call.
Perhaps she is more tied in with her uncle than she will publicly admit….perhaps the machine is backing Romney in 2024….maybe the RNC knew of the election fraud ahead of time and did nothing..
None of this smells good….wreaks of anti MAGA….
Now is the time to push MAGA platform away from Rona and her globalist cucks…xl pipeline workers and other unions are becoming more and more pissed off….I could say you reap what you sow, i mean vote for?, but as Jesus said “Forgive them Father for they know not what they do”….lets pull them into our Constitutionally abiding group once and for all.
No offense but people really need to understand that when you are Mormon, you first loyalty is to the Book fo Mormon and the Church. Like Islam and the Koran. Hello.
Not true. The same can be said of every religion. Please don’t paint all LDS members with the same broad brush.
Neither party ever endorses a candidate during the primaries they endorse the winners of primaries. Well sometimes, sometimes they quietly undermine them, but generally neither party takes a position during primaries
Follow their money/ad buys/etc. Usually, it goes right to the RINOs.
It was blatantly obvious that the GOP was backing Jeb in 2016…until he was crushed in the primaries. Then it was obvious they were doing everything they could behind the scenes to undermine Trump.
Nothing has changed. The GOP is still in the unrelenting grip of the same power brokers. That corruption has oozed down into too many key states’ party apparatus.
Somebody, they don’t take a public position, but they have their candidate. I think I know who has been picked for 2024, and of course, the goal is to reelect the incumbents to congress.
They will never learn.
lindak, why should they? The voters keep voting for them.
Kinda says it all doesn’t it? The RNC is now irrelevant.
Another blatant diss of our chosen President. Why should anyone stay with this party? Get rid of them and their clueless bought off agenda. A new party is a must to disintegrate these ungrateful wretches running this tainted republican party. End their power trip by not supporting them with one penny nor any attention. Primary every one of their candidates. Reduce them to minor third party asap. imo.
Recipe for failure:
“The party has to stay neutral….”
Sundance, I’d like to request a sort of “update” article, now that PDJT has moved on to a new venture, and the trusty-planners have retreated.
Over the years, you’ve written many pieces with innuendo regarding dissemblers close to President Trump who were misleading him, controlling him, working against him, and even antithetical to the MAGA agenda from the start.
Each time you shared these hints, the comments exploded with accusations. Some of the people raked over the coals were Jared & Ivanka, VP Pence, Kellyanne Conway, Pompeo, and many more. Even Melania has been a target of suspicion. To my knowledge, you’ve never directly accused or defended any of them.
Now that the administration is defunct, I would love to read your thoughts on some of these people who’ve been close to PDJT. More specifically, I’d like to know who you were implicating as disloyal.
If you are unable to share your full thoughts at this time, could you please at least touch upon the issue and provide some insight as to the mystery? Thanks for considering. Many of us are still wondering and waiting.
How will this site flourish now that President Trump is no longer in office??
We were here before President Trump and we will be here when a new leaderS emerge. You just put your finger on the reason MAGA failed, it has to be more than 1-man deep within the halls of government.
More than1 man deep? We’re not talking about Flat Stanley here, we’re at least 74+ million MAGA people DEEP!
We are far from “deep” where it matters….inside government. When President Trump took office, it was a mad scramble to fill the thousands of positions that needed to be filled with loyal and competent people.
The “Plum Book” is published yearly by GSA, and contains over 9,000 civil service leadership and support positions (filled and vacant) of the Federal Government that may be subject to noncompetitive appointments.
We had no bench, and filling positions was a struggle for the President his entire term. I guarantee you that Biden and Co. already had names to fill these positions BEFORE the election.
Especially hard to fill positions when Mitch was running the show and making sure only his people could get through.
Good point. So how do we get past the Gatekeeper?
Climb the fence.
Bigsky51, the real work is done below the cabinet level. The government bureaucracies were stuffed full of democrats, who stalled and subverted Trump, and he didn’t have political loyalists to replace them.
That was exactly my point. Most of these appointments do NOT require Senate confirmation. It’s the ranks of senior executives (GS-15 and most SES) than can make or break an administration. They operate within their respective agencies in such a way that slow-walks the administration’s policies and positions, even to the point of sabatoge.
That’s where having a deep bench is essential, and is almost impossible for an outsider. But for Democrats and establishment Republicans, it’s easy-peasy.
There are thousands of positions that do NOT require Senate confirmation. Many of those positions were held by never-Trumpers throughout the term.
Niagara there were MAGA people with experience the put in resumes. I don’t remember the exact specifics but someone Preibus brought in had an oopsie and deleted the database. As luck would have it, at almost that exact same time an Obama WH holdover was doing “maintenance” on the computer system and as a result that database of resumes was lost forever.
It was just a series of unfortunate events and there was simply no time to start over, but luckily Priebus, Pence and a lot of establishment types had their rolodexes at the ready to fill positions.
To be fair, the team didn’t have enough people but I think 3 or 4 thousand had applied. I personally know a couple that applied and they never heard a word. Both had retired from the upper echelons of one particular agency. Both were in the military in their younger days and are patriots and HUGE Trump and MAGA people. They did their jobs, kissed a few asses, had the right skill set at the right time to move up the way they did. We’re not talking the most consequential agency here but they would have served the administration well and faithfully. Bonus they knew where the waste and the worthless bodies were and relished the thought of streamlining and making said agency more efficient and responsive.
I know a couple of other people that would have been good for a couple of roles, but neither would even apply. They both said at the time nobody from that list will ever be hired, but their names will certainly make in onto another list that I don’t want to be on. They were right about the first part, don’t know about the second.
I know one appointee that took over a year for confirmation ,,when he reached his post he found it impossible to implement any pro America agenda with the leftists beaurocrats in the swamp . It’s been the same story everywhere for the last 4 years .
My keys ds submitted resumes. Never heard anything back from anyone. We believe the backstabbers did this.
Well of course they did; it was JoeBama’s 3rd term.
Not to peak outofturn….butI believe that was doc’s implication….we can do this with or without Prsident Trump….it is just that his charasmatic presence makes US that much more potent..
Also that President Trump was thwarted at every turn within the govt structure…we need to root out the mallingerers…
Btw…forgive the typos in my comments…my tablet and fingers are at war?
Duh, that means he was 1-man deep inside the government, which is the issue.
Absolutely true…..
It’s flourishing right now. You can always help by sending a donation. We’ll have plenty to read about.
Well you keep wondering and waiting, and don’t forget to donate. Me? I’m going up thread to to read the latest developments on the border wall construction.
My goodness, you must’ve awakened on the wrong side of the bed this morning!
Nothing can keep this site from flourishing! Why pose such a question? This is my GO TO site each morning and has been for some years now. It’s only getting better and better.
Did President Trump concede the 2020 election?
Well, sort of. But now that he is off the CHAIN.. the UNiparty will soon be longing for the good ole days. ?
Remember that old saying ‘careful what you wish for..’
No PDJT never did concede and THAT is likely the real reason for this faux impeachment trial.
WHEN it is proven in court that Trump won the 2020 election… and conspiracy by many to commit FRAUD is why he, and the America peoole were denied his/ourWIN…. WHAT IS THE REMEDY to Trump and the citizens?
Nothing …. or…. restoration of the legitimate govt (Trump Admin) to power.
Biden obviously cannot continue to be rewarded for his crime…. and
…. everyone in the US CONGRESS KNOWS IT. This impeachment scam trial is their… stupid last ditch way… to try to keep Trump out of the WH… once the TRUTH is known– Trump WON the 2020 election. HE, not biden, IS the real, legitimate potus…. bc THE PEOPLE elected Trump.
The state legislatures and congress MERELY conspired to commit FRAUD against the citizens … and have gotten away with their crime… so far… but THEY FEAR they will not get away with it ultimately… ergo 30k armed NG in DC for an inaugural crowd of 2000…. and… an absurd phony impeachment trial in February that is overtly counter to the PLAIN meaning, instructions and purpose of the impeachment process itself.
NO!!!! He did not in any way, shape or form.
No. He. Did. Not.
I would say that Pence outed himself as Swamp loyal in this election.
Anyone that voted to certify this fraudulent election showed their true colors! President Trump only had his family that he could trust. I could never figure KellyAnne and her husband. How do you do your job with all that going on? She was credited with President Trumps win but he won with his America Fist agenda. We are America gone now.
I think he outed himself back when he set up Gen Flynn
Could you add to your list his visit to D.C.? I would love to hear more on his interactions with the swamp!
Didn’t he already say he figured the mole had been Pence all along?
We must primary his brother, Greg, most likely he was in on the leakage.
MSNBC’s Jason Johnson: Democrats Need to Say Republicans Are ‘Terrorists’
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2021/01/27/msnbcs-jason-johnson-democrats-need-to-say-republicans-are-terrorists/
I don’t know about how other people feel, but my one “saving” grace is that I am now 62, and for the most part have lived what I would determine are the best years in terms of freedom, opportunity, a childhood relatively free from perversion, where the biggest danger was been bitten by a snake, or falling down a cliff, or drowning in 10ft surf. So all in all I can feel pretty ‘satisfied” that I probably lived during one of the most “livable” periods of human history – and with that in mind, I can now “look forward” to just checking out whenever I feel I have had enough of what I believe is a hell on earth to come. Sorry, they can call me a coward, but I’d rather go out with some dignity, than be persecuted, falsely accused, and made to feel like some “criminal” for having the audacity to think and say what I believe to be important – at least to me. I don’t ask for agreement, but a future of yes sir, sorry sir, whatever you say sir, I won’t think that again sir – sorry FU. I’d rather check out.
I’ve adult kids I can’t check out for their sake. I’m looking for opportunity to battle back even if it looks like we’ve lost. Right now doing simple things like refusing to financially support the monsters as best I can. I will not go quietly.
People are HUNGRY for real information. Opportunities to educate them will present themselves to you in everyday life.
Make good use of those opportunities to help others along.
We *can* walk that fine line between shrill advocacy and silent majority. Good patriots can no longer remain silent.
ty.
Don’t “check out”.
We need you. ?
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62 as well.
Just told my daughter i will be placed in the re-education camp, then shot for insubordination.
Have always bucked unreasonable rules..took risks…had great adventures…like you Oldspeak, not changing now for anyone. My father raised me to know what is true and right…
Luckily, I have copious family records and writings…keeps me sane when they say, for instance, snow in April is the result of global warming….uhhhh noooo….happening as early as 1830s.if not before…..bunch of Marxist frauds
Cant wait to see how they will use the wind and sun to power all of these electric cars….those poor birds.
Again..two words for them….as aptly written by Oldspeak…FU….
Bring it, Baby……
Right there with you Patriot. I’m checking out to be with like-minded Individualists in WY. The Agrarian life: self-reliant = independence = freedom = liberty.
We get labeled as “quitters.” But here’s the deal…we are not at war with socialism/globalism/feudalism in this country…nope…that war is long over and WE LOST. Social Security IS socialism. Unemployment payments ARE socialism. Every single federal dept and agency aside from DoD, DoTreas, SOS, AG, and PMG (those enumerated by the ORIGINAL Constitution) ARE socialism. The 16th Amendment IS socialism. The incorporation doctrine IS socialism. The oligarchy of 9, AKA SCOTUS, IS socialism. The FED IS socialism. ObamaCare IS socialism. Stimulus checks ARE socialism. Common Core IS socialism. And so on.
The war against socialism ended long ago…I would reckon in 1913. We the People surrendered long ago but apparently the word didn’t get out. As such, We are POW’s.
For those of you familiar with the Laws of Armed Conflict, there are basically two status’s…combatant and non combatant…or belligerent and non belligerent….WE ARE THE LATER.
As a non combatant, my role in war is to RESIST exploitation and ESCAPE. My fight is a battle of WILLS and NOT a battle of wits. The feds control courts, economy, media, votes, etc. But what are courts without litigants and juries….economy and media without consumers…votes without participants? NOTHING.
So yeah…I’m escaping…and resisting. I’m an Individualist NOT a Collectivist. I will protect my own…and RESPECT my neighbor’s Natural right to protect his own….but I will NOT suffer with the Collective sheep that CHOSE the bonds of tyranny and safety.
Rant over
In the communist revolution in Russia there were a number of farmers who felt that they would be immune since there did not work for factories or live in cities. However, communists insinuated themselves on those in the countryside, forcing them into collectives. You may try to escape, but the left has ways of insinuating themselves on you. In the immortal words of John Galt, “Get the H*ll out of my way!”
Nothing wrong with protecting the Homefront.
Life is short enough Oldspeak, might as well wait it out.
I’m your age. I have two children. This fight is not about me.
You can’t just commit suicide.
You COULD end up in Hell for all eternity, which will be 10,000x WORSE & more miserable than your MOST miserable experience in this world.
I beg to differ. You have no idea. Maybe THIS is hell.
This is a failed strategy because my answer back is that democrats are projecting and are the actual terrorists. I can back up my assertion.
McCabe should hang…
McCabe aware of exculpatory evidence before opening obstruction probe into Trump, documents show
Then-Acting FBI Director Andrew McCabe was aware of crucial exculpatory evidence regarding the firing of FBI Director James Comey when he opened an obstruction of justice investigation into then-President Donald Trump in mid-May of 2017 over Comey’s removal, according to documents declassified by Trump during his last days in office.
https://noqreport.com/2021/01/27/mccabe-aware-of-exculpatory-evidence-before-opening-obstruction-probe-into-trump-documents-show/
The only re-education will be the majority of the people who are still been fooled by corruptocrats, their minions, and the people behind the Avatar. I suspect there will always be 15% of the population that will continue to swallow the tripe spewed by the Corporate Ministry of Propaganda, but the rest can and must be red-pilled.
I expect the installed regimes will make such a mess of things in such a short order that they wish they had the power to intern their opponents. That’s not going to happen. They will red-pill the masses with their corruption and incompetence because their propaganda won’t be able to hide it.
As far as the King-wannabe Avatar goes, EOs aren’t laws and any business, persons, or states affected by the decrees, should receive the backing of the MAGA movement, and file lawsuits in the courts now populated by hundreds of Trump appointees. It’s time for MAGA Lawfare! President Trump made federal court shopping easier for the movement.
Yes…. its time for MAGA Lawfare.
There wasn’t any evidence for the probe to begin with. Why would exculpatory evidence matter to him?
Biden Creates ‘Bipartisan’ Court-packing Commission Led by Democrat Election Lawyer Bob Bauer
Biden has begun appointing members of a special commission that will consider expanding the Supreme Court, among other “reforms.”
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/01/27/biden-creates-bipartisan-court-packing-commission-led-by-election-lawyer-bob-bauer/
Controlled opposition. They are “talking” about it. Chuck Schumer allowed Cinnamon or whatever the female AZ senator is to come out and say she’s a firm “no” on eliminating the filibuster. See how it works. Bob Bauer probably gonna make a lot of money. Republicans are gonna be outraged and “donate” in order to help the R’s stop this and the Leftwing dingbats are gonna donate to try to get it passed, remember Cinnamon is a hard “no” on eliminating the filibuster, that’s what Schumer wants hence she was allowed to say it.
Once you see the strings……
Sinema , the AZ Senator, won with voter fraud in Maricopa County, just like Katie Hobbs, the SOS. She is up for re-election in 2022 so she must pretend to be “moderate” like “Build the dang fence” McCain.
I see Sinema and Gabbard as two peas in a pod.
Sinema , IMO, does not take her office seriously. She is getting well paid to be an eccentric little fruitcake, dressing in her costumes and getting attention now and then by saying something provocative. But her voting record is DEMOCRAT through and through.
Yep. I see tulsi as oiled, tan, wearing her white outfits and leis. Aloha
I just clicked on President Trumps tweeter account and it is replaced with Joe Biden. Makes me want to vomit. China-Joe has 6 million followers! LOL!
I looked at the pictures and wow, what a load of crap.
Trump put a smile on my face every morning as I visited in the past 4 year Trump’s Tweet account, there was always something going on.
I imagine in a few months Tweeter will fudge the numbers of China-Joes followers to 1 Billion people ( mostly china military). 🙂
Stolen election, stolen social media accounts—- why the big surprise? The fudge factor with this usurper and his cabal is par for the course. He’s a rotten, mentally declining, compromised pervert, and he AND his supporters will reap the whirlwind. Ice cream just went up by 1 dollar at the grocery store. Prepare accordingly. A judge in Texas just put an injunction on joebama/’s immigration plan. And so it begins. I stand with God, guns and country. God Bless us. Have faith, wisdom, strength. Pray!
Everyone needs to evacuate from Twitter. Gab has all our favs on it. Hit them in the wallet, even if they won’t outwardly admit it is hurting them. It does.
I’d rather catch a case of herpies than click on Biden’s Twitter.
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One week in, Biden administration shows its exquisite cruelty
See how many lives and livelihoods Joe Biden has already destroyed with just a few strokes of his pen.
So confident in their new fascist control over us all, leftists are suddenly unafraid of overtly demonstrating their contempt for those of us not members of their superior class. Now that they hold all the cards, no need to pretend they care about “we the people.”
This is a nasty group of radicals, this Biden Cabinet of now out-of-the-closet communists. They are wildly overreaching in a country that is based on individual liberty.
Where is the mass press conference attended by every Republican in Congress? Why are they not on every cable news program decrying what the left is doing? We must be grateful for Cruz, Hawley, Johnson, Jordan, Gaetz, et al., who are the precious few doing what each and every one of them should be doing: fighting back as if our lives depended upon their fighting back. This new administration is destroying America as founded faster than we can say “Constitution.”
Where are the rest of the elected Republicans sent to D.C. to represent us? Cowering in their basements? It seems so. If they are not going to fight for us, why are they there? It appears they are there to become part of the get-rich-quick swamp. That is why they hate Trump so much. He was already rich, and he did fight for “we the people.” He exposed them all for who they really are — self-serving jerks.
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/01/one_week_in_biden_administration_shows_its_exquisite_cruelty.html
Puppet Joe is not in charge, this is a roll back to the 2015 economy with TPP on deck to be approved, and who benfitted during that economy? The answer to that question fingers the ID of the puppet masters. Hint: The answer is NOT China Inc., Obama or Sorros, they are just major supporting actors.
By the way, even during Obama’s hamburger flipper based economy the net worth of politicians increased by 100x or more, that should answer your question, “where are the Republicans we sent to Washington”. It is also something to put into your pipe and smoke whenever listening to pilticians and experts saying how killing the present economy under the Green New Deal Sham is such a good thing.
I give up. So who benefitted?
Use the 5 watt computer in your head to figure it out or just go back and read the articles here about Trillions at stake.
Exquisite Cruelty it is. Murdering our Republic.
Because all the politicians, their staffs, lobbyists, DC bureaucrats have nothing but contempt for you if you are middle or working class or heaven forbid work with your hands.
They don’t just sell you out to get rich – they do it because you are considered so far beneath them.
The American way to respond to the “Stolen Election” & any new laws from the present “Illegitimate Biden Administration” is “Civil Disobedience”. Any new laws, any new mandates are invalid until the “Stolen Election ” is legitimately fully investigated and the “Real President” is lawfully seated.
How about the IDENTICAL civil disobedience used by BLM/antifa and other leftists every night for many months in 2020?
Anon…. why do you believe most/all dems/leftists in govt, media, congress, the public…. DEFENDED and permitted … the massive violence, assault, murder, vandalism, arson that occurred in many US cities night after night for many months?
WHY do YOU believe Chris cuomo — a lawyer said: “WHY do protests HAVE to be peaceful?” as he defended the violence & destruction in the $100s of billions of $$ during the months of floyd protests?
IS a stolen election legitimate grounds for acts of civil disobedience?
IS the view that system racism exists legitimate grounds for acts of civil disobedience?
What in par 1 above do YOU believe is acceptable? Do u agree w/Cuomo? When is cuomo’s view that violent protest can be legitimate?
OR maybe u reject ALL civil disobedience for all reasons or just some reasons?
Such an awful world I live in now. It happened so fast. From a trusting person to a cynical, skeptical, doubter practically overnight. The news is fiction, the FBI are outlaws. The CIA are subversive schemers. The politicians are liars all.
Apple says my phone and IPad are in grave danger of being exploited by bad apples and I must…without a moments delay,,,upgrade to their new software release. Such urgency. And I doubt it, I can only wonder what spy/tracking tool they wish to add now to keep tabs on me, my thoughts, my communications, my movements,
Alas. Not a trusting bone left in my body.
Rightly so.
We have always been comfortable and somewhat protected here in America, and now that’s being threatened.
It is still a beautiful world. Look around you for things of beauty. Put on some favorite music. Why let the liars and devils control you? They want you to feel and think your worst thoughts. I hope you will regain your trust when it is placed where no one can take it from you.
“It happened so fast.”
It did not happen so fast. It’s been happening for over 50 years, based on my personal observations and efforts to have conversations about it with friends and family.
Until very recently (the last few years), I was routinely dismissed as being paranoid and unnecessarily suspicious.
It did NOT happen quickly. 95% of the population refused to acknowledge it was happening at all.
When obama said, prior to the election in 2008, that he was gleefully enjoying the fact that he was “five days away from the fundamental transformation of America….”…..too bad his statement was not believed.
https://politicalvelcraft.org/2013/10/08/barack-obama-were-five-days-away-from-the-fundamental-transformation-of-the-united-states/
So now, here we are. We have arrived at the destination we have been aiming at for many decades.
Trump Patriot, I haven’t been on twitter since they banned Trump, but I did get an email from twitter a couple of days ago that I would need to prove I was not a robot by taking a Captcha Challenge. When you start, google may collect and use information about you, your device and browser.
Think I’ll pass. I was going back to Twitter someday, because it’s an excellent news source for things besides politics. I do have other interest.
Wizard of OZ redo—perfect.
Perfect!
The coming of today is the exact reason that book was written.
Very. Apropos.
Official press photos show President* Biden signing executive orders on a small table in the State Dining Room. Doesn’t that strike anyone as odd?
It must be terrifying to be living in Japan, Taiwan, Israel or any place that used to be defended by the U.S.. All of these places are now vulnerable to being taken over by their enemies. Their enemies many of which are within their very governments will not hesitate to act. Total worldwide chaos will be the norm shortly with nobody to stem it.
I guess it has to happen.
I’d be willing to bet Israel can take care of itself.
Yep. For the time being at least, Israel and their “neighbors”, even in the emerging peace process, live under the the old fashion threat of Mutually Assured Destruction via WMD (in all forms) held by both sides.
Agree just wait until Israel needs to restock military supplies previously obtained from President Trump! Wonder if ChiCom Joe will move the embassy back to Tel Vivi?
Israel was founded and survived the first two wars during a time the USA did not support it at all and was actually hostile diplomatically. They have never trusted their safety to other nations.
Even though they are not our best friend, the Leaders of Muslim nations courted by President Trump to start the move towards a more peaceful co-existence are also at great risk as the US Swamp refinances the Violence for profit movement.
How evil, yet true that statement is.
We’ve also been taken over by the enemies within our very own government as well. If we can’t even protect ourselves, how can we be expected to protect others?
The Wheels of The Fourth Turning are grinding away!
Following the chaos on Wall Street via “guerilla underground traders” (GUTS) we note that American Airlines stock has “irrationally” increased in value by 100% and that the “GameStop” tactics used by independent GUTS to ruin the Deep State/Globalist hedge funds may have become personal!
The Great Reset may not quite be what the wannabe Masters of the Universe have envisioned!
“It’s a new world indeed… prepare yourself for an onslaught of Establishment Complainers* that this is not right.”
* i.e. the shills in the Biden Regime.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/did-american-airlines-shorts-just-get-wsbd
This “insurgence” on the hedge funds is thoroughly entertaining. This is the type resistance that gets their attention as it hits them in the pocketbook. Not sure where it’s going but for now it has many of the elite shaken. I like that
It is delicious! 🙂
Yes it is!
The GameStop story is as you say delicious.
The entire saga has caught the globalists and Wall Street by complete surprise. The political class didn’t know what was happening and has struggled to address the donor class’ concerns.
The default position is that it is dangerous for individuals to invest and therefore the government must regulate the People out of the financial markets.
The great reset is dependent on the People participating. Totalitarian governance cloaked in benevolence is the tool to insure compliance because Americans are not going to participate.
It is already happening, I have seen many comments on certain financial blogs where small traders weren’t allowed to buy more Gamestop, only sell it.
Not just Gamestop now, several shorted stocks being targeted. And chatter surrounding silver. The elite’s reaction has been panicked. And the millions participating in this appear to have staying power, as profit is not necessarily the goal. Complete opposite motivation of the globalist money changers
Hope for the younger generation.
“…profit is not necessarily the goal.”
As I mentioned above, things seem to have become “personal.” Taking down at least some of the “globalist money changers” no matter the cost seems to be the goal.
I would like to know who these cowboys are! So far they are shooting up the bad guys’ operations!
Delicious is watching the big bad hedge fund guys getting their arses handed to them by youngsters. Truly Autists or not, these kids are something to behold.
This means he plans to stack the court!
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He plans to talk about it, maybe even a couple of dems will introduce a bill, but like amnesty for 20 or so million, but it won’t go any further. It is a game.
The chart for American Airlines looks like the voting chart for Biden votes when they supposedly stopped counting.
Dora, why bother, the ‘conservatives’ on the court aren’t very conservative.
“Sunday evening I got a phone call at 11 PM, telling me Mayor Giuliani and his entourage were dining in such-and-such a Georgetown restaurant, and would I mind bringing what I had written over to them. I got dressed and went, but when I arrived his security told me to sit in the bar and wait. I did for 45 minutes, until someone came out of the Mayor’s private dining room to tell me the Mayor asked that I not come back to his table (security was concerned about me, for some reason), but asked me to simply send into the private dining room the paper I had written. I sent it in, then left.
Later, two people who were in that room told me what happened when my paper arrived. First, in the 90 minutes between 11:30 PM and 1 AM, Mayor Giuliani imbibed three triple scotches on ice. Nine shots of alcohol. Those relating this story could not vouch for what he had drunk before 11:30. Second, in front of everyone Rudy took my paper and read it for perhaps 45 seconds, then put it aside saying, “I’ll get to this later.” ~ Patrick Byrne
How DJT Lost the White House, November 3 – December 23: All the President’s Team(s) – Deep Capture
Interesting account of the failed attempt to expose massive Election Fraud.
worth reading…
This same group spoken of in this report, are the ones who opened the office of the former President. Anyone suspicious, now? Jenna is the one communicating for PT regarding PT’s plans.
Why do we trust her? I still haven’t seen or heard from PT directly?
Anyone?
I trust no one except Donald J. Trump
Exactly. And we have not heard from him, yet. Just those “close” to him.
This is from the guy that goes on-air to mention he’s had 220 surgeries in his life and always has some wild story.
This should be required reading. Be prepared, it’s a real gut punch.
This guy is spreading some terrible stuff and he doesn’t have first hand knowledge.
Agree. He’s come out of nowhere claiming to be “in the know”. Reminds me of michael cohen, scaramucci and the black gal who left and flapped her jaw.
There have been many rumors of Rudy’s drinking over the past 5-6 years. He disappeared early on from being a PDT advisor and at that time was reported to be in rehab. Rudy was great in his day. His day has passed and he should not be relied on any longer to be a deal maker.
Sydney and Lin got off track with twitter rumors – like mean girls. I appreciate their work but they need to put together a cohesive case and present it. I think these tweets are prelude to books they are both most likely writing.
This is Patrick Byrnes first hand account of the happenings he witnessed.
Not L Wood.
Sadly agree. I have the highest regard for Rudy. He did what no mayor could with NYC, then got them through 911 with strength and tirelessly supported everyone of those families and of course his take down of the mob will be written about (if the commies allow us to write history) He and Trump are truly cut from the same cloth, but his best days seem to be behind him. It saddens me to see him flailing in public, much the same as it saddens me to see POTUS sidelined and in exile.
jaxnix, I won’t be reading either. The tweeting discredited both. Woods was off the charts and Sidney just got silly with the Kraken nonsense.
Dizzy Dean said, “it’s not bragging if you can do it.” They couldn’t do it and became an embarrassment.
Trump had a legal team that backed out on him.
Yes -after the death threats.
Wow. And not in a good way! This is shameful “must read” regarding what went on behind the scenes! This is well written and well worth the time it takes to read.
It should be a stand-alone thread!
^^^^ THIS ^^^^
While PJT may be into this thing… the family is not, they got kicked out of all the coctail parties. They no longer get to hang with their celebrity buddies. I believe they wish they could go back to life before MAGA.
I will always respect Rudy, and I don’t believe it was his choice to lead this thing, because all the other lawyers fled and hid, but clearly he was not up to the task.
God bless General Flynn and Sidney Powell
MAGA and God Bless America are real. PJT can’t put that back in a bottle… it is here to stay and win and will never get tired of winning.
Sad to read that, but hot hard to imagine really. I will never understand why DJT hired the people he did.
Peter Navarro’s reports better describe the steal.
sorry but the dude is a flake … a very sickly individual (not mentally, but very very sick physically for years) … just more hope pron …
Deplorable- I cannot thank you enough for posting this incredible story. Patrick Byrne is a consummate professional in his own right and certainly has enough organizational skills to become a major entrepreneur.
His revelations about Rudy and the Shit Show are not surprising, given the way things have been going I can totally believe the level of disorganization he describes.
This account appears to be stunningly true and accurate. You literally can’t make this stuff up.
I remain very concerned about the lack of organization going forward.
The billion dollar lawsuit filed by Dominion against Rudy – once you dig into the details – is interesting and unfortunately, I think some points may have merit. I understand it is just the initial salvo and Dominion’s “side of things”, but some of the items alleged against Rudy – are concerning – and I recall when he was on news media and on his you tube channel – thinking he has crossed the line on some comments beyond his legal position – add to this his “selling” of coins, etc. Just my two cents. Time will tell and hopefully the truth will come out. But I have minimal trust in the judicial system and feel we are in a place where there is no rule of law.
Deplorable, this is certainly a disturbing read, that kind of substantiates my feeling The President’s team was not well organized and maybe didn’t have the best talent, but don’t know that I trust this Byrne guy to give a totally unbiased accounting either.
Prosecutor Seeks Life Sentence After Voter ‘Vigorously’ Licked Shut Absentee Ballot Envelope
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/01/26/prosecutor-seeks-life-sentence-after-voter-vigorously-licked-shut-absentee-ballot-envelope/#
I believe the people at the target range will not be entering any rail cars for re-education. 🙂
Here’s what we know for sure.
The democrats are going to screw everything up big time. They always do. Everything they touch turns to crap. Every single thing. They own this now.
They own it but we’ll pay.
We’ll pay for the screw up and for the inevitable clean-up the Puppet Masters will allow when they risk a MAGA like interlude to calm things down. The risk being they cannot return the government to the more economical (cheaper) demo-commie control vector.
They will destroy everything they touch, but they will blame Trump, and half of America will believe them.
Has to be false. Buffet would require 12% return, and would take it from the possessions of those travelling in his railroad cars.
https://www.deepcapture.com/2021/01/november-3-december-23-all-the-presidents-teams/
If only 50% accurate…..Rudy needs to be flogged.
I’ve said it and I’ll say it agin. People have burned me up here for it.
Rudy Giuliani is the Michael Aventi lawyer of the Republican Party.
He jumps from bone to bone. I’ve got the tapes on Biden I’ve got this on Hunter. All hat not cattle.
Keep an eye on him. Watch what he says and does. He’s always on to the next big then.
Always saying he has enough info to bring it all down. Then nothing.
Back in the day Rudy was the man. No doubts.
Now tho I feel like he’s just cashing in on the American people. Have for a long time.
I always thought and said Sydney should have been the person running things.
She’s way sharper. Smarter, easier on the eyes. As well as more determined.
That’s my opinion.
Anyone who wants to ridicule my opinion. Please look back at last 4 years of Rudy’s blabbering and then show me results.
Keep in mind all the ships he’s jumped to and from.
As well as what he’s doing now.
I wonder if who Patrick calls “Mediocrity”
Is Jenna??
Thoughts?
Yes, I think it is Jenna. Sydney warned us they were not helping PT.
Now, Jenna is the communicator for the office of the former President.
Where is PT? Is she speaking for him or for the GOP?
I want to say something with adult humor right now….
I’m going to refrain from saying it tho.
About Jena… ?
Oh, cmon man, free speech and all that….?
I think he all but spells it out…Jenna
Talkofthetown, Jenna would be my take.
Agree and add that many times he’s painful to watch and listen to. He did a fair job at the Michigan hearing (or was it WI?) when he got a witness to say 600,000 votes for Biden and none for Trump in X minutes of vote counting.
But overall he’s ineffective. His facts may be right, etc. But his presentation falls flat. He has no command presence. He loses the audience rather than captivates them. A good lawyer keeps you on the edge of you seat with combination of facts and dramatic presentation.
Sydney lacks the stage presence of, say, Spence or Kunsler, but had the facts on Dominion/Smartmatic. Russell Ramsland’s presentation on vote shaving is also excellent.
But overall, Rudy never, really, got anything accomplished. POTUS should’ve dumped him for Larry Klayman 4 years ago.
Yes and “Mediocrity”, a female attorney described in detail by Patrick Byrne.
Two candidates :
1) An attorney that was on the Presidents Phone call to the Georgia Secretary of State that was subsequently Leaked. I cannot recall her name right now, but she did resign soon after the call was leaked. She was trying to talk over the President. ; and
2) Jenna Ellis, who was anti trump during campaign, and resume did not seem too strong.
This entire shameful account of what went on behind the scenes is flabbergasting, to say the least. We know PDJT to be a “big picture” kind of guy…..but he had no “small picture” person that was on top of things, detailed and loyal to him. WHY wouldn’t his sons have been a part of this?
WHERE was the “calvary??”
Gabytango
Does this make you question the office of the former President that Jenna Ellis is speaking for? She is the one communicating PT’s messages. Since we have not heard from PT directly in weeks, just third party ‘associates”, I have been untrusting of any of it.
Yes, Lolli, it sure does make me question what and WHO is around PDJT. This written account by Byrne (it has confirmed all my questions of how the “wheels fell off the cart” spectacularly) has shaken me to my core. “Disappointed,” doesn’t even begin to cover it!
Ya, me too. We aren’t in Kansas anymore. Sorry for the cliche’ , but it does fit. Surreal.
WHO is “The Mediocrity” ~>?
I believe we need to take a view from 2000 feet.
Donald Trump was able to expose the Deep State/Davos collusion.
As one man, with virtually no support and enemies at every turn, he was ultimately defeated. But not before exposing the corruption within virtually every branch of the government.
With no one to trust, PDJT was left to rely on Rudy (well past his productive years) and Jared (smart and talented, but a liberal at heart). By the time Sydney and Patrick broke through the swamp creatures surrounding the President and sheltering him from any real information, it was too late to shift gears from the bad advice he was getting.
He will NOT run in ’24.
I’m not convinced he will play a large role.
Hopefully, this has awakened some new leaders and committed followers to address the fraud and corruption in our institutions, from local entities to the very top. It’s time to take what PDJT has exposed and move forward. He is not the only one who can
lead the charge.
I know this is not a popular view here. I believe the fight is not over, it was just begun by a tenacious and insightful leader.
Has ICE released from incarceration (to roam free in the USA) the 15K or so criminals they have (or had) in their custody?
Only about 70% of them are violent and deadly, so all’s aok.
sarc off.
“Mostly peaceful criminals.” ~ CNN
So wish that ICE’s incarcerated would be released inside the Capitol Building where poor Pelosi, McConnell et al. Were “terrified”
Jonathan Cahn’s Prophetic Message to Joe Biden (Presidential Inauguration 2021)
I realize this isn’t the “religion” thread, but I think it’s important for everyone to hear this. Please share if you so choose.
I know nothing about this person, but let me just remind people that the Bible says that any prophet whose prophecy isn’t 100% accurate is a false prophet. If he has made any prior prophesies, you might want to check them to see if they came true.
Some prophecies took hundreds of years to be fulfilled. You might want to wait a little bit before casting dispersions. Nobody knows what god has in his plans.
I’m not “casting dispersions” on anyone. All I’m suggesting (take it or leave it) is that people be discerning and check out someone’s reliability before believing anything he or she says.
1 John 4:1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.
Frankly, it’s okay with me if you guys “cast dispersions.” It’s the aspersions that I don’t like to see cast about.
fair enough.
Please provide the exact scripture that says prophecy has to be 100% accurate or they are a false prophet. Good chance I’ve missed it, but I’ve read the entire Bible a few times, and that doesn’t sound familiar given that man is fallible.
You can easily look this up yourself, but you can start with Duet. 18:20-22.
And common sense ought to tell you that any person putting forth a prophecy claiming it’s from God better be DANG sure that’s true–otherwise, he’s a liar and a fraud!
Inaccurate prophecy would seem to be more accurately described as speculation, opinion.
Check out his prophecies about 9-11. Read some of his books. I believe he is the real deal.
Thank you. I can’t help but think their is special place in Hell for Judas Pence. All he needed to at least ‘attempt’ to do was delay the count until the States with Dual Electors could make their final and Constitutional choice.
If the uniparty had scuttled his attempt to delay the count by replacing him, or the States did the wrong thing in the end he would not be held accountable by God, they would. How any true Christian would not stand in the breach, even if it meant his very life, in order to prevent replacing the most pro-Christian, pro-Jewish, pro-Life, pro-Constitution President in a generation with the least is beyond my understanding.
I listened. This wasn’t actually a “prophetic” message as much as a comment on where we are, spiritually, and encouragement to continue to Pray for Revival for a sick and rotted nation. Very accurate assessment of Xiden’s anti-Godly actions and agenda, comparing it to that of our First President, the very devout George Washington.
Eternal Life or Eternal Judgment? Which will Joe Stolen choose? And which will America choose?
Would love to watch but absolutely can’t stomach any background distraction, a/k/a spooky music, when someone’s got something important to say. I want to hear the spoken message, not mood enhancing sound effects.
This is a phenomenon happening all to much. How can these people not understand their sound effects are losing listeners, not gaining them? It’s like trying to have a serious conversation at a football game. Impossible.
Can’t vote out voter fraud
Just curious what you Treepers think of Megyn Kelley trying to resurrect her career… She has a podcast of her own and also Dave Rubin (who I like) and Ben Sharpiro (meh) having her on for *opinion*??
President Trump put her in her place at the 2016 debate and she went downhill from there! I’m hoping she stays downhill!!
She is an attorney, trained to offer either side of an argument. I personally would never trust her again
Megan made so much money in legal settlements and contract buy outs that the media is now just a hobby for her, to feed her ego. She has no career except as a prop to be used now and again as part of a narrative.
She defends Trump a lot against the dishonest left wing media
nexplant, Put me down as Never Megyn.
How is Biden going to give a State Of The Union address are 9pm eastern for 2 hours when his meds wear off by sundown??
The address will not be live, you know due to covid. It will be pre-recorded over several days and released to the networks to show.
C’mon man!
Todd – you have to think outside the box.
Jill just hired Jeff Dunham and Walter to do stand-in’s for OBiden.
Dunham has to be paid but Walter is just like OBiden – pull the strings and he’ll say what you want.
Um, President Trump . . . sorry to bother you but . . .
. . . if you’re planning with the military to make a move against the evildoers and their coup . . .
Executive Order 13848 and all that . . .
. . . hope you don’t mind me saying but . . .
. . . now’s a really great time to do it!
Okay, thanks a lot.
Have a nice day.
Ummmm. Isn’t it about a week too late for that?
Of course but . . .
Beggars can’t be choosers!
Taken from the Marshall Report – Trump fires first shot at GOP –
https://themarshallreport.wordpress.com/author/spearofdestiny1/
video on youtube –
How will Joe help China today?
Following the Longest two months of my lifetime, on 1/20/21 I finally resigned myself to the fact that there was no “trump card” per se. I accepted that “we will never let them get away with it” was no longer a reality.
I grieved and got busy catching up on work and other things I had tabled fighting “the steal.” I let go of the Dominion stuff and the “every lie will be revealed” stuff and tried to avoid any focus on JoBama or the happenings. I couldn’t even watch Bannon, who had held my attention for weeks, as he seemed to continue to focus on topics that seemed moot.
I landed somehow at QuodVerum Forum (Rex and Thomas Wictor) and began to read for a couple of day, then weeks. I never should have because as much as this site bans “Q” stuff and will not allow conspiracy type posts of martial law, insurrection act, etc; Mr. Wictor continues to post riddles that seem to imply a) Trump won in a landslide b) he’s somehow in control of the military presence in DC and c) at some point, PDJT is going to expose the massive reveal that’s bigger than him, the presidency and will shake the global establishments.
Sure seems like hope porn to me but at times, he points out some very enlightening things. I guess I am not able to let go of my President just yet.
Any thoughts or other readers here?
I’d say trust your own eyes. Know what you know to be truth.
People make money by clicks.
That’s on of the big problems now days.
Thomas also said President Trump would be inaugurated on January 20th.
His words not mine. Up to you to decide how accurate Thomas Wictor is.
As well as how inaccurate he has been.
Myself I think he’s riding the click bait. He’s getting paid for it.
I also believe all that are doing this. That have been very wrong in the big lead up .
Should be laughed off the internet. They are as bad as MSM.
Thanks for this “validation.” My gut say’s what you are eluding to as well. The only thing that can help us at this point is that there a heck of a lot of us all feeling the same gut punch.
Your 100 percent correct. We are all feeling the gut punch.
People spreading the disinformation need to be shamed for what they are doing.
I like to use the fool me once shame on you.
Fool me twice shame on me.
Nothing to be ashamed of its happened to us all.
Your post made me remember this, still makes me chuckle:
Welcome to a painful blessing. There comes a day when a child has to learn there is no Santa Claus, and it’s a painful blessing because it’s the puncture of a delusion. Many folks could not let go of these delusions, when it was chrystal clear that the walls were closing in. I applaud you for realizing this, and moving on. The fight is what to do now and where we go from here. As the poster said above, click bait is horrible.
People no longer know how to discern truth from lies. Too many people make emotional decisions rather than exercising and developing their critical thinking skills. This site does a great job of developing these skills, but go to the comments from a month ago, and a lot of people were saying the national guard was going to arrest everyone, seriously?? Completely deluded.
Pelosi was accurate, Wictor not so much.
Pelosi Declares, ‘One Way or Another,’ Trump Will Not Be President in Ten Months
https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2020/01/12/pelosi-one-way-or-another-trump-will-not-be-president-in-ten-months-n125321
The swamp is huge and powerful and the corruption extensive and in every institution. But President Trump shined a light on this vast darkness and it is now exposed. The first step to solving something is to shine that light.
Just don’t get offtrack with rumors and more rumors. These institutions are practiced in the art of disinformation.
Like Sundance has said, “Live your best Life”.
don’t dwell on ‘what ifs’ and focus on yourself.
Until we get some organization (if we ever do), now might be a good time to cut back on “news” and focus on getting your own family’s duck’s in a row. During natural disasters, aren’t people told to take care of themselves and their families first; and then venture out to help others?
Name one time that DJT has ever walked off a job.
He didn’t concede.
He said “we’re not done yet”; yesterday at his golf course.
He said in his last speech: “We’ll be back; in some form.”
He endorsed Kelli Ward as Arizona Republican Chair and Ronna McDaniel as RNC Chair; yet so many believe he will start a 3rd party.
Unbelievable.
Just the facts:
It is January 28, 2021.
The greatest election fraud in history by the democrats and some turncoat republicans, perpetrated in the November 3, 2020 presidential election….
has not been adjudicated.
Example: One of the cases at the Not-So-Much Supreme Court
Just yesterday, the case was distributed for conference of 2/19/2021.
As they say on Perry Mason, “the jury is still out.”
No. 20-845
Title:
Donald J. Trump for President, Inc., Petitioner
v.
Kathy Boockvar, Secretary of Pennsylvania, et al.
Docketed:
December 23, 2020
Jan 27 2021
DISTRIBUTED for Conference of 2/19/2021.
Screwauger I’m holding out until the NG either leaves DC or the clock strikes 12 midnight the tic toc ends and the shit hits the fan. In the mean time I am prepared for the worst and have chosen mhtdo.
PS, hope you took my advice to just say ” I forgive you and walk away”
It was hard, but I did. I called her and we came to terms and I forgave her. Will not last but thanks for the advice.
Wonder if Thomas Wictor will comment on your post. I like him, always have. REX also. Been following both since their Twit days.
And yes, he and REX definitely believe President Trump is gonna play those Aces.
I would be surprised if REX would, he and Sundance had a riff, a while back.
I don’t remember what it was about, but it always troubled me because I respect both of them.
I like Quodverum, been there from the start. Lot of good posters there, and yes, with a very strict policy, as you mentioned.
It’s like watching a movie, or reading a book, lots of twist and turns. If their predictions hold true, which are possible, in my opinion,
YEA.
That final scene, or last chapter? Either way, it’s been interesting.
I accepted it was over when the courts refused to look at the election officials changing voter rules unconstitutionally allowing fraud, and the states certified the election. Anyone who understood that most of the republican senate wanted to get rid of Trump should have known they were never going to do anything.
People should not listen to those who peddled false hope.
Heartsick.
The hardest par of all we are enduring is that God Himself has allowed this to come to pass. How can we pray for a country that God doesn’t seem to hear the prayers of its’ citizens anymore? Living in a God forsaking and God forsaken country is almost impossible to stand. It is like living through the book of Lamentations, and though God is the one bringing on all that is happening and going to happen, we should remember God is merciful. Reading chapter 3 of Lamentations may be a goo idea for all of us to do.
Although the U.S. appears to be entering a time of judgment, God is still present in every born-again believer. He cares for us. He loves us. He hears our cries. In fact, the Holy Spirit cries out on our behalf, too. Of course, God may decide to tell us, “No,” but that doesn’t mean He has abandoned us as individuals.
Sometimes we think God is saying “No” when He just might be saying “Not now.”
I have always been of the belief that unless Trump turned over the money tables in Congress, his accomplishments in office would be short term. You might not have liked the result of the election, but it exposed the depth of the corruption.
Aside from all the other evidence, how do exit polls show record Latino and Black votes for a republican and somehow Biden won? Maybe that is why they are going after Brandon Straka so hard now. Somehow Trump won over a lot of democrats and independents, which would make a Biden win pure fantasy.
Of COURSE God heard our prayers and for a believer to ask that is surprising to me. God heard our prayers…..HE had OTHER plans. It’s a bitter pill to swallow, but this is how things are for now.
A brilliant poster wrote the other day (so sorry, I can’t remember the name): “President Trump was MIRACULOUSLY elected the first time, won against Hillary against ALL odds. And now, President Trump LOST this second term miraculously, against all odds.” This tells you God is in control.
Something bigger than we are or that we can even imagine is happening behind all this and we may never see the results in our lifetime.
In the meantime, as Sundance and so many have said, “we must continue to live our best life,” and imo, we must ask God to help us accept this as His will, even though we cannot see the endgame – and may never see it in our lifetime.
II Corinthians 4:18
“So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen, since what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal.”
Excellent comment, Gabytango!
“History is Written by the Winners….”
It is impossible to attribute that quote to anyone anymore. That tell us something right there. And that is, History is always being rewritten. More on this later
This quote can indeed be attributed because I just created it:
“Whoever controls the Radio-frequency Spectrum controls the world.” – JAS
Although this is nothing new, younger generations are seeing it happen for the first time because most everything we read and watch today is published into the Radio-frequency Spectrum. Some have no clue or opinion, but others love it because they can further their ill-conceived views, and effect social change on a global scale.
The story posted by Sundace on “Ricky Vaughn” yesterday is a classic example of this. New empires have been built that are now, with the complete cooperation of our government, controlling and punishing free speech and free thought as they see fit to forward their ill-conceived cause.
Again, there is nothing new here. For thousands of years the practice of suppression of ideas has been used by those with illegitimate power on other people, whose hold on power, and coupled with their own paranoid personalities, make them knowingly afraid of losing said power and control.
But as usual, they have a problem. Rewriting history is a doubled edged sword. New generations fail to notice a key and well-known fact by older generations: The Radio-frequency Spectrum is vast in comparison with the portions that the new kids on the block control. There are no secrets nor technology where they hold an advantage. Their efforts to control free speech will fail because they cannot control it all – knowledge of the Radio Spectrum is already everywhere. That horse left the barn many moons ago. There are just too many other alternatives for people to communicate in the Radio Spectrum for them to control it all.
The lesson for the rest of us? Learn. Study. If there was ever a time, it is now. Go online and watch videos about Ham and GMRS radio. There are thousands of them out there. Learn how frequencies are apportioned. Study which ones are encrypted. If things really go South, and if history as written is any indication, they always eventually do go South, know how to communicate. Get a license and a GMRS radio. Takes just a few hours, and total cost is $70 for the license and $65 to $300 for handhelds and more powerful mobile (car) radios. Start making your families and friends communication plans.
You can start learning here:
Now back to my first quote above. On 4 February 1944 George Orwell wrote and article with the same title as the title of my post. I’ll post the link to the whole article below, but here’s an excerpt:
“This kind of thing is happening all the time. Out of the millions of instances which must be available, I will choose one which happens to be verifiable. During part of 1941 and 1942, when the Luftwaffe was busy in Russia, the German radio regaled its home audiences with stories of devastating air raids on London. Now, we are aware that those raids did not happen. But what use would our knowledge be if the Germans conquered Britain? For the purposes of a future historian, did those raids happen, or didn’t they? The answer is: If Hitler survives, they happened, and if he falls they didn’t happen. So with innumerable other events of the past ten or twenty years. Is the Protocols of the Elders of Zion a genuine document? Did Trotsky plot with the Nazis? How many German aeroplanes were shot down in the Battle of Britain? Does Europe welcome the New Order? In no case do you get one answer which is universally accepted because it is true: in each case you get a number of totally incompatible answers, one of which is finally adopted as the result of a physical struggle. History is written by the winners.
In the last analysis our only claim to victory is that if we win the war we shall tell fewer lies about it than our adversaries. The really frightening thing about totalitarianism is not that it commits ‘atrocities’ but that it attacks the concept of objective truth; it claims to control the past as well as the future. In spite of all the lying and self-righteousness that war encourages, I do not honestly think it can be said that that habit of mind is growing in Britain. Taking one thing with another, I should say that the press is slightly freer than it was before the war. I know out of my own experience that you can print things now which you couldn’t print ten years ago. War resisters have probably been less maltreated in this war than in the last one, and the expression of unpopular opinion in public is certainly safer. There is some hope, therefore, that the liberal habit of mind, which thinks of truth as something outside yourself, something to be discovered, and not as something you can make up as you go along, will survive. But I still don’t envy the future historian’s job. Is it not a strange commentary on our time that even the casualties in the present war cannot be estimated within several millions?”
Notice that in the last sentence he uses the word “liberal” to describe minds of the keepers of the truth. In what part of the political spectrum can you find todays “liberals”? The answer is: In that part of the spectrum where Totalitarianism resides…..
Link:
https://galileo.phys.virginia.edu/classes/inv_inn.usm/orwell3.html
God Bless…
If you have to buy a license, the government controls it.
Yes, they do set the rules, but controlling it is a whole different story. If you took the time to see what is in the totality of the Radio-frequency Spectrum, and what the capabilities are, you would know better.
The sheer numbers of INDIVIDUAL players is so vast, as compared to the handful that control the MEGA internet sites makes that absolute control impossible. Control in that context is an illusion.
JAS, yes, I agree. I am in the process. Thanks for the info. Newbie here on hams.
So what happens when the power goes out–I mean permanently? Or what happens if you can’t afford gas or electricity or solar panels or any other means of generating electricity?
I’m looking into this, so understand that I’m not knocking it. I’m just trying to get a handle on what might be coming down the pike (such as a total loss of power).
Look for solar powered recharging stations. Get a few of them. One can be used while another is charging. Would keep a handheld running, easy. They do work.
All these radios run on 12 volts. If cars are still running then just plug them in to the car and go for a drive. If not, portable solar panels. Like Lolli said, get two and two gell cell batteries deep cycle batteries and alternate them for charges.
And used judiciously, even the handhelds will hold a 10 hour charge.
Interestingly, Like Ham radio, the car (not handheld) GMRS radios also work with repeaters. That allows greatly increased transmission distances.
I was looking at repeaters stations in the US on a map and Puerto Rico blew my mind. It seems that when hurricane Maria went through there in 2017 and everything went dark people started putting up repeaters. There are more repeaters now in PR ( >100) than in FL!!!
Interesting. Thank you.
Same for 501(c)3 (churches). Baal’s veil.
This kind of puts the full transition to digital TV in 2009 (44’s administration) into a whole different perspective.
when you scroll down a few comments, zephyr breeze copied a post from Patriots.win worth reading – and noting: ending the fourth paragraph mentions sponsors and partners of institutions promoting the short squeeze through the prior decade including GE which was bailed out by 44 at taxpayer expense. Seems a lot of progressive shenanigans are coming into better focus with the Reddit/GameStop short squeeze.
Just look at Boeing
Last year .. will they or will they not get a bailout.. then look at where some highly controversial gov employee/lawyers wind up.
I think the game has been money laundering.. and insider trading. It’s all about the money..
We all know where Democrat leadership and policy is going. We have witnessed it first hand before and in many of our cities for decades now.
So IMO PT needs to start foreshadowing it. For example by asking all Americans to do a self and family evaluation every month and every quarter as we tick through the Biden/Obama administration.
By simply asking……….
Ask are you better off now vs in 2019?
Is your family and children better off?
Are you safer today than in 2019?
Are you able to go get a good quality job you want?
If you are a small business owner, is it better off today than in 2019?
Are your taxes going up?
How is your freedom of speech today vs in 2019?
How is your freedom of religion or right to assemble or right to bear arms today vs in 2019?
Is our border more safe today than in 2019?
How is illegal immigration and the influx of drugs doing? Going up or down?
Is our military getting stronger or weaker and are our troops coming home or going overseas?
The bottom line IMO, is PT and the MAGA party needs to push this simple topic of…..
Are you better off under Biden/Obama vs PT/MAGA?
Because as time ticks by it is only going to get worse.
The Democrat Party is the party of Destruction. They are the party that WILL destroy American’s Life, Liberties and their Pursuit of Happiness.
We all saw what their policies did while managing many of our major cities like Seattle, Portland, NYC, Chicago, Minneapolis and so many more. This times 1,000 is what is coming to the rest of the country.
So IMO we must push and press the conversation where EVERYONE asks themselves now and every quarter as their atrocities of policy are rolled out.
Are they better off under Biden/Obama’s American dream or under PT’s/MAGA American dream?
What this conversation will show is that Democrats ARE the Party of Destruction which robs the common American of their freedoms and everything that makes America Great.
I just went to joe biden’s twitter and read some of his followers tweets. It’s quite disturbing.
The amount of brainwashing is beyond the pale. They’re not even close to being satisified with the number of executive orders he’s already issued.
Quite a few are not real and might not show on someone else’s feed. I am talking about something other than censorship
I totally agree with you gsonFIT. FB reported their Q4 results last night. While they did good on ads. Buried in their report was they got 1.82 million more new users of their platform. I don’t believe this number at all. Millions of people have left it all together. Meanwhile millions more have created new 2nd, 3 rd, or fourth accounts in case one of them gets banned or put into FB jail. My wife has 4 or 5 accounts. It’s all BS numbers. They’ve already lost and don’t know it yet.
Twitter will report 4th quarter and end of year results on Feb 9 let’s see how this works out for them.
I am looking to educate myself a bit more before posting but I understand “memes’ can outsmart AI
Is the house even in session right now?
Tree House is always in session. 24/7
How about the criminals in D.C.
They are plotting against you 24/7 regardless of whether or not the House is officially open or not. The puppet masters take weekends off. Trump takes advantage of that.
thank you “Q”-bertdilbert
They don’t write the laws, J+K-Street does on behalf of the CoC, CCP, Davos, Wall Street and Cartels that fund the uniparty. The illegitimate uniparty occupiers of the DC then add, district pork, funding for kickbacks washed via various schemes to family members and then to them, a few token social issues, like men being allowed to compete in female sports, etc. and presto you have 10,000 page legislation that passes along a strict uniparty vote. A bill that nobody in the uniparty read, not counting the bribes that benefit them.
Then they wake up Joseph Stolen, inject him with something to get his brain sufficiently powered to move his legs, put a pen in his hand and all the above becomes law. Wouldn’t be interesting to put together in an ‘updated’ School House Rocks video on how a bill becomes a law?
Below is the process the ‘Constitution’ requires for what its worth but just like everything in the Constitution, its not being followed anymore. A Republic if you can keep it.
Supposedly they are in session according to the Congressional calendar, but I’ve only seen 1 pro forma session this week.
Red-State Governors Lead COVID Recovery After Blue-State Tyrants Tanked The Economy
States helmed by Republican governors are leading the nation’s recovery from the lockdown-driven recession that is strongest in blue states led by Democrats, who imposed the strictest pandemic restrictions that suffocated small businesses and eroded jobs.
https://thefederalist.com/2021/01/28/red-state-governors-lead-covid-recovery-after-blue-state-tyrants-tanked-the-economy/
Our military should take corrective action, if the crime and the motive, have correctly been identified below? Because it can only mean one thing the election results were fabricated.
President Trump blocks the ‘Great Reset’ by improving the American economy. So the UniParty and World Economic Forum (WEF) cook up this plan to remove him and replace him with a puppet? The puppet moves to destroy everything President Trump has done over the last four years. Thereby destroying the American economy, and opening the door to the ‘Great Reset’ and your loss of freedom.
So is this what Biden and the FED are doing? You judge.
World Economic Forum (WEF) Pushes ‘Great Reset’ in New Video: ‘Capitalism as We Know It Is Dead’
“Yes, [the Great Reset] will happen. And I think it will happen with greater speed and with greater intensity than a lot of people might imagine,” Kerry said.
https://thefederalistpapers.org/us/world-economic-forum-pushes-great-reset-new-video-capitalism-know-dead
It’s now been a little over a week since JoeBama was installed as Chairperson, er, President, and the Emperor has mandated by fiat nearly fifty executive orders, all of this while the Senate is tied down by yet another sham impeachment, this one even more unconstitutional than the last.
Already ChinaJoe has killed tens of thousands of good paying, high wage American jobs, stopping the construction of the environmentally friendly Keystone Pipeline to aid the long time ally of the Leftist movement, railroad magnate Warren Buffet. Who would have thought that something as energy efficient as gravity would pollute more than a diesel train locomotive? You think sending oil by rail is safe? Ask the victims of the Lac-Megantic, Quebec tragedy, whose town was wiped off of the map in the middle of the night in July, 2013 after a locomotive hauling crude oil derailed. What does your Minister of the Environment, failed former Secretary of State John Kerry say about that, Comrade Joe?
Nearly fifty executive orders in a week, all by a man who, if ever given a real cognitive test, wouldn’t be able to sign his own will or withdraw money from a reputable bank. It’s almost as if a shadow government lie in wait for the last four years, stayed in Washington and plotted revenge, as they simmered over the success over the Trump Era.
Ironically, the American people saw that President Trump’s policies worked, and learned during the last four years that Greatness is possible, and that government is the problem. We are not going back to the dark ages, ChinaJoe. We now know too much, and there’s seventy five million of us, and our numbers are growing every day.
Chris I think these four years coming. People on both sides are going to see how money is being spent.
How it’s sent overseas before it’s sent to us.
How we support other countries,
Education,infrastructure, healthcare, etc etc
While ours is failing us.
While we are being taxed for it.
Someone here posted this yesterday.
I don’t know how to take it out of a tweet and put it here .
This kid absolutely nails it. It should be on everyone’s Twitter feed.
Heck I’d like Sundance to put this on His forum as a story or just let us post on it in it’s on forum.
This is something I think the left and right could actually agree on.
https://t.co/NqqD9CT0Fx
If some else could post this so it would just play please do. Thanks
The answer is straight forward. World Economic Forum (WEF) through Biden must destroy the U.S. economy for the ‘Great Reset’ to start. Therefore, wasting our tax money, helps to push us into a recession.
How many of those executive orders were paybacks for donors? Payback can be in advance notice of whether an industry is positively or negatively affected allowing a profit opportunity.. Keystone was a payoff to Buffet.
Payoffs are at play, without doubt but the Executive Orders are targeted at the U.S. economy. Keystone layoffs hurt the economy and from the World Economic Forum (WEF) perspective this helps to accomplish the ‘Great Reset’.
Good news boys and girls, you don’t have to move to California. Just stay where you are, because under the JoeBama Administration California is coming to you. /s/
https://www.independentsentinel.com/watch-this-report-on-cali-its-the-future-of-the-usa-under-biden/
Tariq Nasheed may be 77% insane, but he’s not always wrong. Biden is ignoring black Americans in favor of illegals – as expected. That’s what you get for voting 90% for Dems.
Is it really true blacks vote 90% for dems, or is that how the votes are counted. Can’t escape from a situation where votes have no value. Is this a form of slavery?
It’s true. Focusing too much on fraud at the margins – even though it probably changed the 2020 presidential election – shouldn’t distract from overall facts.
From a post at Patriots.win
Copied this from a top post, heartmoving post well worth the read;
I was in my early teens during the ’08 crisis. I vividly remember the enormous repercussions that the reckless actions by those on Wall Street had in my personal life, and the lives of those close to me. I was fortunate – my parents were prudent and a little paranoid, and they had some food storage saved up. When that crisis hit our family, we were able to keep our little house, but we lived off of pancake mix, and powdered milk, and beans and rice for a year. Ever since then, my parents have kept a food storage, and they keep it updated and fresh.
Those close to me, my friends and extended family, were not nearly as fortunate. My aunt moved in with us and paid what little rent she could to my family while she tried to find any sort of work. Do you know what tomato soup made out of school cafeteria ketchup packets taste like? My friends got to find out. Almost a year after the crisis’ low, my dad had stabilized our income stream and to help out others, he was hiring my friends’ dads for odd house work. One of them built a new closet in our guest room. Another one did some landscaping in our backyard. I will forever be so proud of my parents, because in a time of need, even when I have no doubt money was still tight, they had the mindfulness and compassion to help out those who absolutely needed it.
To Melvin Capital: you stand for everything that I hated during that time. You’re a firm who makes money off of exploiting a company and manipulating markets and media to your advantage. Your continued existence is a sharp reminder that the ones in charge of so much hardship during the ’08 crisis were not punished. And your blatant disregard for the law, made obvious months ago through your (for the Melvin lawyers out there: alleged) illegal naked short selling and more recently your obscene market manipulation after hours shows that you haven’t learned a single thing since ’08. And why would you? Your ilk were bailed out and rewarded for terrible and illegal financial decisions that negatively changed the lives of millions. I bought shares a few days ago. I dumped my savings into GME, paid my rent for this month with my credit card, and dumped my rent money into more GME (which for the people here at WSB, I would not recommend). And I’m holding. This is personal for me, and millions of others. You can drop the price of GME after hours $120, I’m not going anywhere. You can pay for thousands of reddit bots, I’m holding. You can get every mainstream media outlet to demonize us, I don’t care. I’m making this as painful as I can for you.
To CNBC: you must realize your short term gains through promoting institutions’ agenda is just that – short term. Your staple audience will soon become too old to care, and the millions of us, not just at WSB but every person affected by the ’08 crash that’s now paying attention to GME, are going to remember how you stuck up for the firms that ruined so many of us, and tried to tear down the little guys. I know for sure I’ll remember this. In response, here is a list of CNBC sponsors and partners. They include, but are not limited to, IBM, Cisco, TMobile, JPMorgan, Oracle, and ZipRecruiter. Their parent company is NBCUniversal, owned by Comcast and GE.
To the boomers, and/or people close to that age, just now paying attention to these “millennial blog posts”: you realize that, even if you weren’t adversely effected by the ’08 crash, your children and perhaps grandchildren most likely were? We’re not enemies, we’re on the same side. Stop listening to the media that’s making us out to be market destroyers, and start rooting for us, because we have a once in a lifetime opportunity to punish the sort of people who caused so much pain and stress a decade ago, and we’re taking that opportunity. Your children, your grandchildren, might have suffered as I described because of the institutions that we’re fighting against. You really want to choose them, over your own family and friends? We’re not asking you to risk your 401k or retirement fund on a single GME bet. We’re just asking you to be understanding, supportive, and to not support the people that caused so much suffering a decade ago.
To WSB: you all are amazing. I imagine that I’m not the only one that this is personal for. I’ve read myself so many posts on what you guys went through during the ’08 crash. Whether you’re here for the gains, to stick it to the man as I am, or just to be part of a potentially market changing movement – thank you. Each and every one of you are the reason that we have this chance. I’ve never felt this optimistic about the future before. This is life changing amounts of money for so many of you, and to be part of a rare instance of a wealth distribution from the rich to the poor is just incredible. I love you all.
Great Post. These voices will be heard.
I lived a nightmare in 2008/2009 – like many others – due to a so-called financial adviser’s reckless and unethical conduct. We did not lose our home, however, like many others and my husband still had his job. What I find ironic about this all is that most of these 10M new investors (# according to CNBC) are liberals – educated guess – and HATE Trump and his supporters. You see, their ilk, are all about revenge. And, attacking anyone who doesn’t agree with them. Although I don’t like Wall Street and short sellers either, and all those who went unpunished for their wrongdoing in the financial crisis, the actions of these “new investors” – which is organized to greatly impact certain parts of the market leaves a bad taste in my mouth so to speak… They can see the wrong-doing of other investors, but can’t see the corruption of Biden and the Demonrats that most of them likely support!
I just remember this…
In 2008 and 2009 none of the CEO of the banks went to jail. The banks got bailed out.. mom and pop got taken to the cleaners and owed taxes on the forgiven debt.
I see the current Hedge fund takedown as pure justice that the crooked DC allowed to happen..
Let’s face it 0% interest on savings.. yet bank take in millions of dollars lending out our money.
Yes, I watched the markets daily – CNBC everyday – getting up at 3:00 am Hawaii time in 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011 because of the financial crisis and its fail out. I saw it all play out and know what happened first hand! As I wrote : “Although I don’t like Wall Street and short sellers either, and all those who went unpunished for their wrongdoing in the financial crisis” just remember …. that most of the 10M “new investors” HATE Trump and all of us!
What Bernie, and Trump, did, and what the conservative movement by and large has failed to do, was spoke to and connected with those of us who grew up under Obama. The younger generation is lost, and confused, scared and hurt and angry, and they need someone to make sense of everything happening to them. Instead they’re packing off to school, to colleges, to universities, pumped full of Marxist indoctrination, and sent out into the world to struggle some more. Meanwhile their parents and grandparents sneer at and mock them and tell them they’re “just not trying hard enough.”
And then the Leftists come along and say “we can help you!” When the younger generations have been forcefed Leftist propaganda and gotten nothing from the older generations except criticism and complete lack of understanding, is it any wonder they’ll follow anyone who says they’ll help? They’re all misguided: they’ve had no one to guide them. So they turn restive and violent: Antifa, and hurting themselves just to destroy the stock market. Just trying to change something, without knowing what it is that they’re trying to change or change to, because on some level they grasp that this, this situation right here, is untenable.
In fact it was just a couple days ago that here on the Treehouse someone was saying how much they hated Millennials… and then you all wonder why the Millennials don’t like or listen to you, either.
“Meanwhile their parents and grandparents sneer at and mock them and tell them they’re “just not trying hard enough.”. I don’t know who you hangout with, but in my family and amongst my friends – we don’t sneer and mock our young people! We try to help and encourage them!
I hang out on the Treehouse. And I’ve seen how my husband’s family treats him (and me.) I’ve seen how Boomers in general treat the younger generations.
There are exceptions; parents who take their responsibilities seriously, but they’re rare.
I know many parents – who many times over the years – financially and otherwise supported their adult children and their families. These parents spent retirement monies helping their children. We know one father/mother, in particular, whose two children kept returning home (when times got tough) and the self-employed/father/
husband died last year. Because of the 2008 financial crisis and the support they gave their children, they had little retirement savings left. Now the widow, Mom, has to sell the house, payoff the large mortgage and live off a small social security check each month. The children are now vying for which family will convince Mom to be the live-in babysitter. The Mom has a bad back and can’t physically be looking after the kids while the parents are at work. The children are very upset with Mom because she would prefer to live with her single brother – who is not well – because she can share expenses with him and look after her own health.
Who raised these kids? Mom and Dad? Or public schools and colleges?
Antifa-Insurgence Leader John Sullivan Speaks Out in Infowars Interview: Biden’s Victory Is ‘Fishy,’ Massive Support For Trump ‘Speaks For Itself’ (Video)
“There is definitely something kind of fishy to say that Biden got all of these votes when Trump had all of these people out there protesting,” he argued. “I believe that [Biden] won in the sense that that’s what came through the system, right? That came through the ballot machines. That’s what counted. Do I think that there could have been some kind, some sort of miscount or rigging? Yes, I do.”
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/01/antifa-insurgence-leader-john-sullivan-speaks-infowars-interview-bidens-victory-fishy-massive-support-trump-speaks-video/
I can’t help but wonder if was Lt Gen Kevin Sullivan ( forced to retire for sending nuke detonators to Taiwan by accident) told him to say this, or was it his Proud Boy brother James Sullivan. Either way something’s rotten in Denmark.
BREAKING EXCLUSIVE: The Same Clandestine Companies Involved in the Certification of Dominion Voting Systems and the 2020 Results in Georgia Were Chosen for the Upcoming Arizona ‘Audit’
What we found is very strange. What is going on?
Arizona’s Maricopa County Board of Supervisors finally agreed to an election audit this week of its 2020 results. The county officials approved only two companies to perform their ballot audit, both which certified Dominion voting systems.
Maricopa officials refused to offer data expert Jovan Pulitzer the job which indicates the Board of Supervisors is doing all it can to hide the truth from its constituents.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/01/breaking-exclusive-companies-used-audit-elections-certify-2020-results-georgia-chosen-arizona-linked-dominion-voting-systems/
Why aren’t the state legislatures using their powers.
I thought they could over rice the board of supervisors?
The legislatures also had subpoena power. Well they let the board get away with not letting the ballots be audited now for how long with out an arrest…..
As always it seems the blame just gets shifted.
When in reality behind the curtain it’s birds of the same feather. ??♂️
Hopefully Kelly Ward will be on this. The subpoena was for making the machines available, not for choosing who audits.
I hope Kelly Ward, Rep Andy Biggs and Paul Gosar are on top of this. I reside in Arizona andI am praying for the best. I’m concerned that they have rejected a forensic audit by Jovan Pulitzer though
N.Y. Severely Undercounted Virus Deaths in Nursing Homes, Report SaysThe state attorney general, Letitia James, said the Cuomo administration likely omitted thousands of Covid-19 deaths of nursing home residents.
https://archive.is/4nAdC#selection-379.0-383.143
The war on The Globalist Deep State’s wealth is on: it is a guerilla war right now, but…the Resistance is pumped after their sally against certain globalist hedge funds.
Courtesy of ZeroHedge, which is quoting one of the anti-globalist guerillas:
“…Silver Bullion Market is one of the most manipulated on earth. Any short squeeze in silver paper shorts would be EPIC. We know billion* (bullion) banks are manipulating gold and silver to cover real inflation.
Both the industrial case and monetary case, debt printing has never been more favorable for the No. 1 inflation hedge Silver.
Inflation adjusted Silver should be at 1000$ instead of 25$.
Why not squeeze $SLV to real physical price.
Think about the Gainz. If you don’t care about the gains, think about the banks like JP MORGAN you’d be destroying along the way…”
Note the real motivation is not necessarily to gain wealth through Silver investing, but the destruction of The Deep State’s wealth.
See:
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/reddit-rebellion-about-descend-precious-metals-market
Main Street revolt against Silver market would be epic.
Pay back against Wall Street Oligarchs. Good.
The SEC and the DOJ could easily go after the illegal market manipulation that is being perpetrated by Big Tech, the exchanges and Wall Street generally to protect hedge funds against small investors. Instead, they’re arresting guys who made memes. (OK, I know that was prosecutors in NY, not the DOJ… ). The fact is that the entire system is rigged in favor of the elites.
Thank you!
Mrs. Ausonius was lamenting the entire situation today, which has developed over many years.
i.e. Investing in a company for the long term – rather than gambling on a company’s stock price in milliseconds – is basically gone. Buying 1000 shares and then selling it when it goes up 10 cents 5 minutes later is not the way it used to be.
Banks do not want us to save money: interest rates of less than 1% are just ridiculous. One is therefore forced into the “gambling markets” in the hope that the market funds have algorithms able to compete with those of other funds.
And yes, obviously the system is rigged in favor of the big banks and i investment firms, for they have bought the politicians on BOTH SIDES to create the system!
One should not wish for a collapse of a country’s economic system, but our corrupt, Socialistic, pseudo-capitalist economy needs an overhaul.
We must not allow the economy to collapse, because this would trigger the ‘Great Reset’. This is what Biden and the WEF want. See it now?
World Economic Forum (WEF) Pushes ‘Great Reset’ in New Video: ‘Capitalism as We Know It Is Dead’.
The trick is to collapse the crony-economy of the Globalists, while preserving (what is left of) an honest capitalism.
Which brings us back to the Military. If our Military triggered the insurrection act based on the fraudulent election results of 2020. Then they would be empowered to take down the crony-economy. See it now.
The 2020 election fraud is apparent, and it should be for the military leadership.
Been following this closely for a while. I think it’s hilarious!
Douglass Mackey is the latest head on the wall of the Susan Rice museum of just us. He will join the “loathsome” Mark Nakoula among others, as the real, deep, unconscionable threats to the United States. Federal funding for adding a meme wing to the existing cartoon wing will be soon forthcoming.
A meme from 2016 unreal
Also, according to deceptive voting practices rules, see link below, this is a situation for the State AG
So, the FL AG is responsible and it must be reported within 90 days of the election in which the reported offense took place
Not that rules or laws matter, but curious if anyone has info on whether or not the FL AG was ever involved…?
https://lawyerscommittee.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/DeceptivePracticesReportJuly2012FINALpdf.pdf
Prosecutors from the Southern New York District are involved with this one. So to answer your question, from what I have researched, no appears correct. The 90 days rule apparently went by the wayside as well. Thank you for the information.
You are welcome. Thank you for responding.
Nitwits are now using the President Trump told me to defense
https://www.ky3.com/2021/01/28/attorney-of-man-found-with-pipe-bombs-says-he-was-following-advice-of-trump/
Find the KGB informant who supplied him.
This is the plan, IMO, and it will not end. PT incited “………….”. just fill in the blank with whatever.
He’s not a nitwit, he’s a plant made to appear like a nitwit, a dangerous nitwit.
“Investigators say he admitted the bombs were his, but claimed they were for “entertainment purposes only.”
Recreational bombing.
i guess we are all heretics! Do we get burned or drowned I cant recall?
https://www.deepcapture.com
Patrick Bryne’s site, but notice the sidebar where he has laid out the following headings for a single explanation.
The Deep Capture Analysis Introduction
The Setting
The Crime
The Cover-up
I read an Article yesterday about what people now think with so many quitting the Republican party There has been over 30,000 that have quit up to date but this article is assuming they are quiting because of the Capital Riot and not because of what the RNC and The Republicans did to the President
So We need to let our voices be heard that we are quitting because of what happened with the President being harmed to begin with and now we are just fed up and quitting because its the best thing to do.. I am sorry I hope the President Will be ok trying to reform the Republican party but until he can give me a place to send donations just to him I will not give one dime if it goes to the Republicans or the RNC sorry.. Rigged Election Rigged Capital Riot and Rigged everything else and now We are starting over again
Or, that’s the way the Republican Party has ordered it spun.
Apparently biden* has Decreed that NO ONE is ever allowed to say or use the term “China Virus” ever again…Because RACIST!
I found a neat page to post on…It is the White House FaceBook page:
https://www.facebook.com/WhiteHouse/?ref=page_internal
And I posted the following:
“What will the consequences be for the Chinese Communist Party that knowingly released the China Virus and murdered Millions of people around the world?”
Enjoy…
MSG Grumpy
So what if we call it the “Chinese virus”? Or the “China flu”? Or the “Kung flu”? And how does Congress read its own decrees out loud if the mere fact of saying it is illegal?
In addition to party primaries, presidential elections, senate elections being rigged – Wall Street outed itself to millions of ordinary people as rigged.
There is a reason for 0 percent interest.. in banks .
It’s to force pigeons into the stock market where they can plucked by inside traders and short sellers..
Wall Street crooks let’s minipulate lies to force a stock lower. let’s use the MSM or Bloomberg. Then once it happens we’ll buy all the stock back at a fraction of it true worth.. who cares about mom and pop. And the SEC well that’s not a problem there getting rich also part of the elite club..
But in another dark and lonesome place..
And the pigeons thousands thought .. I can play this game..
Let’s buy the stock that they are trying to manipulate downward.. and bid it up.. then the crooks will be forced to buy it at a higher price.. and us little guys make the profit instead of getting plucked..
Absolutely love it..
DC politicians must be getting ready to jump out of windows.. the gig is up exposed for all to see.
MAGA