There are only a few instances where a party can file a direct lawsuit with the U.S. Supreme Court, a state claiming harm by another state is one of those instances.
Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton has filed a lawsuit [pdf here] with the supreme court seeking and emergency injunction against Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Georgia “from taking action to certify presidential electors or to have such electors take any official action including without limitation participating in the electoral college.”
The Texas AG argues that arbitrary changes made by the state’s governors, secretaries of states and election supervisors were “inconsistent with relevant state laws and were made by non-legislative entities, without any consent by the state legislatures. The acts of these officials thus directly violated the Constitution.”
The lawsuit states: “these non-legislative changes … facilitated the casting and counting of ballots in violation of state law, which, in turn, violated the Electors Clause of Article II, Section 1, Clause 2 of the U.S. Constitution.” […] “By these unlawful acts, the Defendant States have not only tainted the integrity of their own citizens vote, but their actions have also debased the votes of citizens in Plaintiff State and other States that remained loyal to the Constitution.”
Paxton notes the intent of the states may have been changes in good faith, due to COVID-19 mitigation efforts; however, the end result of the changes is in direct violation to the Constitution and therefore creates the harm.
“Certain officials in the Defendant States presented the pandemic as the justification for ignoring state laws regarding absentee and mail-in voting.” […] “The Defendant States flooded their citizenry with tens of millions of ballot applications and ballots in derogation of statutory controls as to how they are lawfully received, evaluated, and counted. Whether well intentioned or not, these unconstitutional acts had the same uniform effect they made the 2020 election less secure in the Defendant States.”
Here’s the full Lawsuit as filed:
Need other states to join the party…
P.S. long time lurker, second time poster.
Better yet, need the state legislatures of those states to join the party.
Agree.
Georgia republicans said they cannot convene the state legislature because they are afraid BLM/Antifa will burn Atlanta down if they do. So there you have it, they have ALL been threatened (JMO).
That’s an excellent reason to convene the legislature. Not to be mean but if these liberal cities burned to the ground the overall effect to the nation would be positive.
+1
I wonder if they considered what the other side might do….
absolutely not because we have never done a thing. The guy they interviewed said the republicans were afraid they would get the blame for BLM/Antifa burning Atlanta down. JMO something needs to be done with BLM and Antifa. They are Obama’s group of brownshirts. JMO
Until we give them a reason to consider it, they’d be silly to waste their time considering it, don’t you think?.
That was done once before by a rowdy bunch of out of towners!
None of those representatives in Georgia deserve a public service job if they cannot stand up to BLM/Antifa threats.
Unacceptable!
Wait until you see what patriots do if they don’t.
Gonna get burned down anyway….after 1/20.
Blue Moon, and why can’t BLM\Antifa be arrested and put in jail? Or better yet they should be permanently punished.
According to article on GP, AZ legislature has formally invoked Article 2, section 1, in other words, if I understand correctly, they are formally rejecting the election results, and indicating they will directly appoint electors.
This of coarse WILL be challenged, and this is ALSO a case that goes DIRECTLY to the SCOTUS, without having to go thru the other courts.
SCOTUS will be resolving 2 questions;
1) DOES the State Legislature have the authority to do this?
Yes, what part of plenary power don’t you understand?
2) Having resolved #1, IS the State Legislatures action REASONABLE; do they have a valid REASON to take this action?
In order to resolve this, SCOTUS will HAVR to examine the evidence the Legislature examined; i.e. Rudys presentation in the hearing, in which he made his case to the legislature.
And, in reviewing the evidence, SCOTUS can not help but conclude the Legislature had a compelling reason to take their action.
In addition, as THEY review the evidence, it is in their best interest that the American people see this evidence, in order to understand and accept their ruling.
AND, once they rule that the legislature has this authority, and doesn’t NEED the govenor to call a Special session, it opens the door for other State legisltures to follow.
Bear in mind, PDJT doesn’t NEED all these States. Basically, Penn and two others, all told either 10 or 13 combinations, none of which include getting ALL.
Wouldn’t be the first time Atlanta was burned to the ground.
Can you find a quote, a source for that, please?
Louisiana is
Good news.
Need every state AG that voted Red to step up to the plate and defend their States rights. 26 states make a majority. This takes the focus off Trump and will make the media wail.
Is it true that 31 states have repub governors?
Yes but some of us have governors that are so bad that their picture should be in the dictionary under the definition of Republican In Name Only.
(I’m under the bootheel of the odious Charlie Baker in blue MA).
jake,
Welcome to the party, glad you decided to move from lurker, and look forward to more comments,..the more the merrier!
I was disappointed to see Az (my State) was not included in the list being sued, and yeah Florida oughta join as a plaintiff.
The merits of the case stand on its own, whether or not any other states join. Nice to have company though…and we will…LA, would be very surprised if FL doesn’t join, for starters.
MaineCoon, Yes.
Thank you.
Missouri Louisiana S Carolina, 8 total are positive at the moment…
Link for this? You’re not the first to state this.
I believe Louisiana has joined already. I have sent an email to the AG of TN encouraging the same. Everyone needs to write or call their respective state Attorney General to do the same. You can find contact info here.
https://thedonald.win/p/11QlTotSkR/trump-needs-you-contact-your-sta/c/
I pray that the country can survive this and the President is protected
Very proud of Ken Paxton. I’m a born and bred Texan as well…MAGA!
Maga! fellow Texan
Do you think the Pennsylvania suit was rejected because of the Texas lawsuit?
That’s what I was thinking Todd. The response was so bare of anything other than one sentence that I have to think Alito was thinking, I like the Texas case better. The reality is that we need multiple states decided and it would be better for the SCOTUS to make a ruling that affects all the battleground states and not just one at a time.
https://www.supremecourt.gov/orders/courtorders/120820zr_bq7d.pdf
It’s my thinking that the decision will be sweeping for all swing states involved, that all ballots counted after midnight are illegal constitutionally.
I know in WI, MI and PA President Trump was ahead by 100,000 or more before they stopped and restarted counting fraudulant ballots in the dark of night on the 4th. However, I’m not sure about Arizona and Georgia.
Besides we need more than just a PA reversal to pull this off.
The Texas path, which will hopefully be joined by other ‘Patriot” AGs nationwide, is likely among the best and cleanest SCOTUS approach.
We still need to push on all fronts though, our very Nation and thus the freedom of the world is at stake. Besides all paths work together towards stiffen the backbone of even Rino cowards.
Afterall, cowards are easily moved, only Patriots stand their ground because we all know that one day we will stand before our Lord and Savior one way or the other.
To those engaged in selling out our nation over many decades, redemption is only possible with confession. Seriously I would be willing to forgive all if we just get our Republic back. One big Presidential Pardon fest of epic proportions. Just don’t stand in the way of “We the People” picking or Representatives once again, that is all we ask. Oh and not to be defrauded day after day of the products of our own toil produced from an honest days work.
Satan is the father of all lies and the source of all corruption, please be free of him, he only offers death you death, we offer eternal salvation.
Texas case covers all bases, so would be repetitious. Covers the PA case. We’ll see if they take it
I’m not sure on this. It is possible, but I feel that it is wrong to do so because by denying this case, it makes PA SCOTUS over turning The Constitution as valid.
The Pennsylvania case included questions under the Pennsylvania constitution, and SCOTUS likely didn’t want to get into telling a state court how to interpret its own constitution.
They wouldn’t be. The U.S. Constitution says the state legislatures determine the manner of elections. That didn’t happen in PA, which is what has been argued repeatedly. Regardless of their own constitution, the PA legislature did not make the changes which led to what happened.
Yes, I do. IMO, with the TX case filed, it deals with the claim of the 14 A, Equal Protection claim, being denied in a majority of the states which didn’t have illegal changes to election law done outside the state legislatures. Dealing with this claim supersedes the other individual state lawsuits, like PA, etc. SCOTUS doesn’t endlessly allow suits. This TX suit on this claim will settle the issues in the contested states, once and for all, if the rule based on the CONSTITUTION!
I believe this suit will carry the day. It’s moots all others so I am encouraged by the PA being denied. No reason to now hear it. I do believe the majority of the Justices will rule based on the Constitution.
It isn’t going to matter.
SCOTUS (Alito) rejected this simple request for an injunction by individuals with standing.
It’s unlikely they intend to give any relief for equal treatment, now.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/breaking-supreme-court-denies-latest-election-challenge-pennsylvania/
“SCOTUS (Alito) rejected this simple request for an injunction…”
Injunctive relief is very stingily given out by courts and usually for only very short periods of time. They absolutely don’t look on it as a “simple request”.
Asking the court to throw out ALL mail in votes (disenfranchising the good with the bad) is a very different thing from asking the court to delay the assignment of electors and giving the state legislatures the legal validation to decide on their slate of electors independent of an election believed to be filled with fraud.
Keep the faith – we’re moving in a good direction.
Yep, SCOTUS can still give the election back to the States to appoint an electoral college to vote. And even further down the track can declare a contingent election. One State one vote for a President. .
It will be the most momentous decision in US legal history if it happens.
Injustice relief rarely granted. balderdash! The courts have granted more injunctions against this President than all the other presidents combined!!!!!!
The bottom line is that there is no standing until the People [PA eg] have an actual grievance [unlawfully appointed electors] from which to seek redress. The courts [State or US Supreme] have no authority at this stage. As well, the Governor/Secretary of State by certifying unverifiable [illegal] votes, will be complicit in Federal election fraud. Only the State legislatures have the constitutional authority and duty to appoint electors when a free and fair election is in dispute. Jenna Ellis reminded the State legislators of their authority and duty last week.
The Supreme Court has only one and only one decision to make. If they don’t vote in favor of Texas, they can kiss the Constitution goodbye and you can kiss the Supreme Court goodbye. So voting no will be the demise of the Supreme Court, unless there is some other lawsuit that would overrule this one. Pray and pray hard, that they rule the right way and uphold the Constitution.
History,
Respectfully NO, just,….NO.
Just as there are multiple paths to electoral college victory, Pa, Mi, Az,…
Pa, Mi, Ga, etc. there are multiple paths to SCOTUS decisions.
Seperate from Texas case, Az legislature has just invoked Art.2, section1.
They are saying they will NOT certify the election results, and will appoint electors.
This of coarse will be challenged, and the case will go DIRECTLY to SCOTUS, as it is a Constitutional issue.
Only two question; does the legislature have the authority? Obviously yes.
Is the legislatures action REASONABLE? i.e. did they have a valid REASON.
Clear its not partisan, or corruption on their part, and after SCOTUS reviews the legislature hearings with Rudy, they can only conclude it is REASONable.
This opens door for other States to ignore state constitution or legislation which says they can’t have Special Session without Gov call.
Legislature is saying Gov Ducey KNEW he was committing fraud, when he certified results.
Multiple paths to victory, on multiple fronts, so DO NOT perpetuate mistruths, that there is only ONE.
IMHO
I predict SCOTUS will never be ordering a contingent election.
Even if it orders PA to follow its own laws, PA will still have fraudulent votes to count just as before because the amateur US voting system doesn’t mandate separating various voters until 20 January in any election year.
If fraudulent voting ever gets to SCOTUS to declare various votes void (it won’t get there, counting will eventually be determined by State Supreme Courts), I predict SCOTUS will give us something like “yes, there was probably fraud but you can’t quantify it”.
No-one will be more amazed than me if SCOTUS does what it should.
Please pass this on to every patriot you know!
The Supreme Court has, in the past, taken citizen voices into consideration when deciding cases, especially when those voices make a lot of noise.
Please, call the Supreme Court at 202-479-3000 (Available M-F 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. eastern) and let them know you expect them to do the right thing for the United States of America by voting Constitutionally in favor of the lawsuit Texas filed against Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Georgia.
Flood their lines, flood their voicemail, flood their desks and inboxes with messages letting them know American Patriots are watching them, and are cheering them on to do the right thing for our Republic. Then pray and ask the Lord to be gracious unto us and our nation.
The left knows how to band together to shake things up. Let our voices be heard loud and strong before the Supreme Court Justices everyday until this battle is over.
Also, had SCOTUS taken the PA case, the best they could have done for Plaintiffs would be sending the case back to the lower court for trial since it does not have original jurisdiction on the case. SCOTUS has original jurisdiction on the Texas case and can take evidence itself.
Thanks. I didn’t know they had to send it back.
Thanks – finally some sense instead of just kneejerk doom and gloom!
Court dockets across the country have been filling up and quickly being dismissed … but, it ain’t over till it’s over … and SCOTUS is about to be hit with a tsunami of election cases … the Texas case is the most powerful and has been joined by Louisiana … but the night is young and no doubt there will be more to come, as PDJT hinted at yesterday … the legal landscape should be quite transformed by tomorrow morning … the only question is, will SCOTUS roll all these appeals & cases into one massive case ……
Alan West is expecting 10 states to join Texas in the suit.
I hope my state joins in.
(In case our resident trolls can’t figure it out, it’s Missouri)
As others have pointed out on other threads, with a state as party (in the TX case, all parties are states), SCOTUS has original, not appellate, jurisdiction. That is, it is a court of first impression, a trial court.
testing
I wrote Idaho AG to join in the suit.
Who’s going to contact their AG to Join Texas and Louisiana?
I already contacted the AG of Missouri
I also wrote the idaho AG and called our representative to get the word out.
Guys, if you want any politician to pay attention, you need to GO THERE.
The United States of America; founded by the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania in 1776, saved by the Republic of Texas in 2020.
Both the Declaration of Independance and the US Constitution were created by delegates meeting in Philadelphia. The US Marines were organized in Philadelphia in Nov. 1775. Nothing of a sort would happen in that city today.
Very proud of our AG and I was waiting for SD to post this. Had no idea this happened and I wonder who will argue this case in SC! Hope Ted cruz joins in.
Cruz was going to argue the PA case, but that’s a goner. I hope Cruz does the oral argument for this one also. He is a great Constitutional lawyer. He’s argued 9x before SCOTUS. There are other choices – Jay Sekulow. We’ll see!
Like!
SCOTUS denies PA injunction request madeto Alito.
Objection by State that this would be an unprecedented step by SCOTUS into a process reserved by the state.
Hmmmm
No reason given for denial of request.
Because Pennsylvania apparently ignored (?) Alito’s order to segregate late mail ballots, there was hope that preservation of SC authority would necessitate taking the case. But an immediate, broad injunction without more ‘percolation’ of facts and discussion was too big of a step.
The same issues can be resolved (one way or the other…) in a broader ‘discussion’ with multiple states and amici involved.
However, IMHO, PDJT administration needs to produce some evidence of chinese, iranian, russian, serbian, venezuelan, involvement, and more actual vote fraud/fake ballots/illegals/deceased/multiplevotes/nonresidents/POboxes etc need to be proven. There must be NSA evidence which will need to be exposed for the SC to take a big step of finding fraud to prevent electors, as opposed to ‘irregularities’.
Nope..they simply need to prove that georgia video was fraud and that the person calling the election worker in the video and ordering him to count was connected with a multi state conspiracy to stop the vote count.
That’s an interstate conspiracy to commit election fraud. That would suffice to deem the election initial count as terminating at the point of the vote count stoppage and to invalidate all the ballot counted after resumption of count.
no need to discuss German servers etc
I concur/can make all the arguments to debate. I just don’t know what force is going to make them stick. Prayers up as ever. Imperfect men can produce righteous results and no one better fits that bill than 45.
“Pure” legal analysis is inadequate here. (I’m a lawyer, fully aware of the increasingly tortured ‘analyses’ from the SC and other courts) A typical elective law school seminar compares opposite maxims and holdings for the same issues. Sadly, ‘who is the judge’, not ‘what is the law’ has become the norm.
The SC is political, to preserve itself. The evidence has to be much bigger than hanging chads, well-distributed in the public consciousness, and largely uncontestable, or the SC won’t bite, IMHO.
An argument “its classified” so evidence can’t be revealed, carries no, or negative, weight. Evidence of kickbacks, conspiracy/co-ordination of state shutdowns for fraud, fake ballot printing, truckloads-at-night, fake voters, etc should be available.
DEC 8, 2020 4:49 PM
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Louisiana Joins Texas In Motion Against GA, MI, PA, & WI After SCOTUS Denies Trump Ally’s Bid To Decertify Biden’s PA Win
by Tyler Durden
Tue, 12/08/2020 – 16:49
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Update (1705ET):Louisiana just joined Texas in the SCOTUS Motion against Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin on the grounds that various changes to their voting rules or procedures – either through the courts or via executive actions – violated the Electors Clause of the Constitution because they did not go through the legislatures:
Those who might be putting any stock in courts and the rule of law – look at the State of Oregon for an example. The Oregon Court of Appeals and Supreme Court are populated by appointees who had little experience in the practice of law.
Oregon has had mail in voting since 1989. There has never been a Republican governor since then. Probably just a coincidence.
In the spring, Governor Kate Brown claimed broad powers to begin locking down private business, shuttering schools and making mask mandates. She claimed those powers by executive order under two different statutes.
One is a public health statute referring to the Oregon Health Authority and notifying the public of those carrying diseases that are a public health threat. There are no enforcement authorities in that chapter. There are no authorities to mandate mask wearing, or shut down businesses.
The other chapter is a statute referring to natural disasters, specifically mentioning tornadoes, earthquakes and acts of God. The powers the government is delegated on a temporary basis in that chapter include the rationing of gasoline, shutting down or re-routing traffic on public highways, and distribution of medicines/food. Within that chapter, there are enforcement mechanisms intended to prevent looting and maintain public order. There is also a requirement for legislative action to use these powers beyond a temporary period.
Oregon is controlled by the city of Portland – a democrat city. A church in rural Oregon sued after being restrained from free exercise of religion. A county judge issued an injunction. The Oregon Supreme Court overturned it, grafting together two different laws clearly intended for different purposes and granting authority to the Governor indefinitely. There has been no legislation on any Wuhan Virus mandates or authorities. The Governor has decreed you may be arrested for not wearing a mask – while cocaine, heroin, methamphetamine and other hard drugs are now legalized. The lockdowns and mask mandates clearly violate the Oregon Constitution, but the judges don’t care – they will do the bidding of the people who placed them in power.
The USSC is similarly out of touch with the people of the United States. Their dignity precludes them from defending the document which for over 200 years prevented a federal government from doing these things to us.
Democracy is what you can get at the end of a gun now.
This>>>but the judges don’t care – they will do the bidding of the people who placed them in power.
You can say the same thing about the state of WA.
King county (Seattle) controls everything.
Thank Goodness Texas did this. I cannot believe the SCOTUS denied Rep Kelley when they kicked earlier suits back to PA courts and allowed the crisis to happen in the first place.
Alabama now waiting on Texas…
Bannon just reported that Bama has joined the suit
I’d be curious to know how Alabama thinks it’s going to proceed if Texas’ leave to file is denied, and therefore we pass Dec 8th with elections “certified.”
The Reynolds decision, although on apportionment, may come into play here. A landmark decision, it first formally established the right to vote as being a fundamental right, Constitutionally protected, just like those listed in the Bill of Rights.
It went on to DEFINE the right as “One man, one vote”. One voters vote should not be diluted, so as to count less than anothers.
The issue should come up, in the Texas and Alabama cases, as they are saying the fraud in other States devalued, or had a “disolution” effect on votes in other States.
Definetly a valid approach, and one of several promising routes.
https://twitter.com/tracybeanz/status/1336431868015751168?s=20
This is good, but we must keep the heat on these swamp rats. The judiciary has proven to be as malleable as any swamp rat.
I still believe to get justice this is going to require something more radical to fix. Martial Law and charge these traitors with insurrection, sedition etc.
That video of the Chinese professor licking his chops about how things will get back to normal with B-B-B-Biden, like things have been since the 70s. This is like an attack on Pearl Harbor, but they attacked with bags full of cash, the Wuhan Con etc.
No Justice, No Peace!
Exactly, instead of Japanese bombs of 1941, the CCP dropped dollars and ‘other’ favors from 1990 to 2020. Great thanks from the Chinese government for all the blood and treasure the US sent them in WW2 to aid in their war against Imperial Japan.
Though I don’t fault the Chinese people, their illegitimate CCP government, has murdered them by the millions at levels the even Hitler and Stalin may have had a problem with.
In short the CCP is enemy of all mankind, and freemen the world over.
I think that it would be beneficial for many to write a request to your state AG to join the Texas lawsuit. Those in blue states will deny the effort, but other red states should be willing to step up.
Reports saying SCOTUS entered the Texas case on the docket…..BOOM!
Been reading down the thread posting this as a courtesy. That the case is on the docket just means that the materials were received by the clerk. It’s like a data log.
Here is Mike Kelly’s lawsuit (PA) for example. Notice as you scroll down that the petition was “referred” then “denied”…so the docket is just a record of what happened. If they decide on the TX case, then I would expect to see something like “referred” and then “accepted” or “granted” or something other than “denied”. Right now, it says nothing.
https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/20a98.html
Correct. Supreme Ct. Rule 17 specifies the procedure by which the parties to an original action proceed: by motion for leave to file, accompanied by a bill of complaint. Defendants must be served with the plaintiff’s papers and are entitled to respond.
The docketing of TX’s motion should not be interpreted as a ruling on the motion.
We are all Texans today.
LOVE^^^^^^
Way to go, Texas! My wife and I landed in Dallas this morning after the flight from our home in L.A. We’re here to check out potential neighborhoods to move to when we pull the plug on California and Los Angeles. We would be proud to be Texans and would do our small part to help keep Texas red!
Watch out for Dallas. They are wanting to turn blue because of the mayor. Look for RED area to move in to.
I would recommend Prosper, Lucas, McKinney (where Paxton lives) Fairview, Celina. All good areas.
I would avoid Frisco. Too many apts, grew too fast, I’m not sure what too make of it.
Wasn’t the analysis of the Michigan Dominion machines supposed to be finished today?
It may have been too late, if the machines were tampered with to remove the evidence before the GOP got access to them? “Factory reset” would be the first thing to do after using election fraud software.
Read the article on this, in GP. They wanted to do the audit on the weekend, and had made arrangements for IT experts to fly in. Then official said “No, Monday”.
Eventually he relented, and they did it Sunday.
But, a group of Patriots camped outside the building, in the cold, 24/7, to prevent anyone from wiping the machines?
They got a clean audit. It will show tampering, if they were connected to the I-net, and if so “who” (ip #) was communicating with the machines over the inet,….
Which Dominion insisted isn’t possible, in direct contradiction to their own training manual.
The narrative is BEGINNING to shift, and things will start to happen all at once, now.
THIS LAWSUIT IS DYNAMITE!!! I read the Complaint and scanned the Motion and the Brief in support of it. It’s brilliantly written, and it MADE MY DAY!!! It is based entirely on UNDISPUTED facts, and hence poses ONLY QUESTIONS OF LAW. It is RIPE for other red states joining as co-plaintiffs. We should call red state AG’s and urge them to do so; especially FL (Ashley Moody AG, 850-414-3300), which has 29 electoral votes.
Please call TX AG Ken Paxton and THANK him for what he and his staff are doing (512-463-2100)!!
The US Constitution vests the legislatures with all authority to determine presidential electors. IMO, it would be helpful for some of the red legislatures (especially TX and FL) to pass resolutions in support of the lawsuit, and to work with their respective AGs (and the TX AG) to ideally position the resolutions: e.g. they might simply be filed by the AG(s) in support; or they might be filed by the legislatures as amicus briefs; or the legislatures might themselves join as plaintiffs. However, some of the state legislatures are presently not in session… so in red trifecta states the governors can call special sessions for that purpose (as well as to address the election fraud more broadly).
In particular the TX legislature should weigh in, in support of TX AG Paxton, who is lead counsel in the lawsuit. About an hour ago, I telephoned both the Speaker of the Texas House (Dennis Bonnen, 512-463-1000) and the President Pro Tempore of the TX Senate (Joan Huffman, 512-463-0117), and suggested making such a resolution, and the staff of each seemed excited about my idea and said they would report it to their respective legislators. However, the TX legislature is not in session, so I left a message for the governor to call a special session (Gov. Greg Abbot, 512-463-2000).
We should be PRAYING for the TX AG attorneys who signed the papers: Ken Paxton, Brent Webster and Lawrence Joseph, as well for our Sacred Five on the SCOTUS: Amy, Brett, Neil, Sam and Clarence. All of them are likely under thr..t, and they need STRONG protection. God bless them all!!!
I just left a message for AG Paxton thanking him
Re: TX legislature not in session
Folks down here sought early-on NOT to make TX legislators career politicians. The state legislature only meets every other year, and then for only 5 months. Next session starts in Jan.
— Al (I wasn’t born in Texas, but I got here as soon as I could — 51 years ago)
Re: Texas lawsuit
Just listened to Mark Levin for the last 20 minutes and I am heartbroken.
According to Levin, the Supremes just indicated by their decision in the Pennsylvania case, that they are going to screw us with the Texas case. Levin has written extensively about the Supreme Court- Men in Black is probably the best book on the subject- and he knows whereof he speaks.
I will try to listen to the rest of his analysis but it is very painful. I hope and pray that he is wrong. .
I respect Mark Levin, but did not hear what he had to say about the PA case. But based on what I’ve seen, I’m NOT worried. The PA case in the SCOTUS docket is here:
https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/20a98.html
Plaintiffs have not (yet) filed a petition for certiorari, which is normally the first step in appealing to SCOTUS. Rather, the plaintiffs took the extraordinary step of filing an emergency application for an injunction PENDING an anticipated cert petition. This was an inherently weak procedural posture. The order denies the injunction in a single sentence, with no dissenting opinion. Why?
Here is my take. Our Sacred Five on the SCOTUS (Amy, Brett, Neil, Sam and Clarence) are well aware that a BUNCH of cases are headed their way. Actually, it is unprecedented to have so many cases targeting them in the same narrow window of time, with the same fast approaching deadline (Jan. 20) about what amounts to the same issue of monumental Constitutional importance–flipping a presidential election by colossal election fraud! Any one of these cases could consume MANY DAYS of their time (with no sleep), or WEEKS for them to write high quality opinions. IMO, the five are talking among themselves about all this. What they want it to take the BEST case(s) and do a fantastic job. I’m 100% for that!
Courts are extremely powerful, but one thing they have NO power to do is to determine what cases come before them… a PARTY must file a case in a court before a judge in that court has any power whatsoever. Well, LAST NIGHT, Texas filed its case in the SCOTUS. Dunno of any of our five had a heads-up from the TX DA, but probably not. The TX case is a HUGELY better case than the PA case. It’s a vastly better vehicle for our Sacred Five to deliver an awesome Constitutional opinion in Trump’s favor. IMO, when they saw the TX case late last night (or early this morning), they decided not to waste their time on the PA case, so they denied it in a single sentence, and now they and their clerks are POURING over the TX case. Indeed, the TX case is so good, plaintiff Texas didn’t even need to file a cert petition… because the SCOTUS has ORIGINAL JURISDICTION (as Sundance explained).
Then there is the question of what FUTURE cases will soon be filed in SCOTUS. This is a complicated calculus for our Sacred Five. Let’s pray for them!!
I just called and thanked him.
I called and thanked. Minneapolis here.
How about all you doom and gloomers put your masks back on and leave the saving of the country to the Patriots with a little resolve.
Real Patriots just do what they’ve always done.
China ain’t pickin OUR PRESIDENT
Yep. Too many Eeyores around here. The oh me, oh my, we are doomed litany is getting tiresome.
LIKE
For a long time, I have “boughtvin” to the idea these were eyores and pearl clutchers, needing reassurance and handholding, but I wonder.
We see the same cycle, over and over;
The enemy puts out a false narrative, and trumpets it thru msm.
“Trumps a Russian agent”
“Trump abused power/corrupted justice in phone call with Ukraine!”
“Biden Won!”
As the msm does their “beginning of the end”#, all these “eyores” (rolcons?) come out here, with their handwringing.
Trump starts the counteroffensive narrative;
“Witchunt”
“Perfect phone call”
“Stolen election”.
The msm first ignores, then denigrates his conter narrative, and these “eeyores” increase their volume.
And then, we get to the PROCESS, which confirms PDJT’s narrative, exonerates him, and didcredits his detractors;
Mueller report; no collusion.
Senate impeachment hearing, nothing wrong with phone call.
And, soon SCOTUS decision on election.
And, the “eeyores” recede till the next time.
By now, having a doom and gloom “eeyore” personality, no longer explains this behavior, IMHO.
THESE posters who continually follow this pattern, are either rolcons, TRYING to sew despondency, or are dumber than a sack of rocks.
I’m thinking the former.
I’m thinking payments.
It’s always the benjamins…
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https://mobile.twitter.com/kylenabecker/status/1336366481362259969
I’ve been following this all day and am absolutely thrilled that someone finally figured out this work around. It seems we are finally on the right track, going directly to the Supreme Court.
I wonder why nobody thought of this before? There seem to be so many really excellent lawyers working on this, I wonder why it finally came down to the Texas super stars to figure out how to save the day.
At this point we have to keep praying for the same Divine Providence that gave us our President Trump to inspire the SC justices to save our Republic.
I think President Trump knew this was coming, thus his statement at the rally that “we need one hero to stand up”. ????
“…Keep praying…”
True, Seneca the Elder!
If this suit – filed today on Dec. 8th, the Feast of the Immaculate Conception, the Protectress of America, Mary, the Mother of God – keeps President Trump in the White House, we will need to keep praying afterward, so that he remains safe, alive, and able to continue the renewal of America.
I am not the only one who has written that America is in dire need of a Spiritual Awakening, for any political renewal will not last without one.
Amen, of all days, it’s almost if forged in Heaven itself, praise be to God.
Keep in mind that God knows the actual count of those that voted for life and against death in this election. Our hearts, minds and souls are an open book only to him.
Ken Paxton is the courageous one. I remember seeing signs driving through Texas. “You Don’t Mess With Texas!”
Texas is under Justice Alito’s circuit, will he accept? SCOTUS rejected the Kelly PA lawsuit today. Some have suggested the Texas suit is on the docket and will move forward, the reason for rejecting the other one. I’m not sure how this flies currently.
The Kelly lawsuit was not rejected. Only a motion for an emergency injunction.
Louisiana, Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Kentucky, Mississippi, South Carolina and South Dakota just joined the Texas lawsuit already on the SCOTUS docket.
That is great news, Wethal! Any opinion on the lawsuit?
What? Do you have a link? That is awesome news if it’s correct – might even force the MSM to actually cover the story!
Source? That is a veritable confederacy of patriots. Pun intended.
Great! I want a Don’t Mess With Texas bumper sticker and T-shirt.
AWESOME!!!! I’m so happy to be a South Carolinian today!!
Are you sure they all joined in? I don’t want to raise my hopes too high!
Kentucky did? I contacted our AG. good.
We need a lawyer to weigh in!!! ?
I need facts. Just give me the facts!
We do! It makes sense that the barrage of actions should be consolidated for expediency but not knowing how that works causes undue alarm when we read something has been denied. What a day!
Somewhere I read that President Trump signed an executive order (in September?) requiring a report be made about the election 45 days after the November 3 election date.
Has anyone else seen/noted this?
That is a reference to the Executive Order that President Trump signed in September 2018 relating to foreign interference in US elections.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-imposing-certain-sanctions-event-foreign-interference-united-states-election/
https://theblacksphere.net/2020/11/trumps-brilliant-pre-election-executive-order-that-trapped-democrats/
Actions by one State against another State are within the ORIGINAL jurisdiction of the Supreme Court, i.e. the Court acts as a a trial court. Unlike other “discretionary” appeals, I do not believe the Supreme Court can decline to hear this case.
OTOH, whether they will handle the case with the ultra-expedition necessary to reach a timely result is quite another question, as is whether they will reach a result moving sufficient electoral votes from Biden to the undecided category to throw the election into the House.
As is, or will be the case you just KNOW is about to be filed, re: Az.
The Az legislature has declared they are invoking Article2, section1 of the U.S. Constitution.
This means they are asserting their plenary power, to reject the fraudulent election results “certified” by corrupt Govenor Ducey, and announcing they will appoint Trump electors, directly.
Assuming this will be challenged, this ALSO goes direct to SCOTUS, and I don’t think they can not hear it.
In order to rule, they will have to address 2 questions.
First, does legislature have the authority?
Of coarse they do, although no State legislature has done it, before.
Two; is it REASONABLE; Did the legislature have valid REASON?
IN order to decide that, they will HAVE to review ALL THE EVIDENCE that was presented by Rudy, to the legislature.
Bear in mind, they don’t have to rule, decisively, that the election results were fraudulent.
Only that the Legislature had GOOD REASON to believe it was.
An affirmative ruling gives Az 11 electoral votes to Trump, and green lights other state legislatures ignoring corrupt govenors, and doing the same.
Its coming, fast and furious, patriots. Keep praying!
Thank heaven for officials that understand the importance of maintaining the rule of law!
USSC refuses to take up the PA case, meaning that THREE of McConnell’s judges had to agree on the refusal. Toomey whooped with joy when that original decision came down, and congratulated Biden. And why not, it was he who spoke up for that rogue judge during nomination. Now, McConnell’s Supreme Court has rubberstamped this betrayal, in an unsigned document, the better to hide the names from you plebs and ensure McConnell keeps his unearned reputation for being “good on judges”.
The US Constitution declares that the States must be guaranteed a republican form of government. Their State constitutions are charters of that republican government. For the USSC to allow a State to blatantly reject the plain language of their constitution/charter REQUIRES the federal government to intervene, by force of the US Constitution. The USSC has just refused to fulfill the oath they swore.
Not according to McConnell’s Court though. There, no constitution matters, state or federal. It’s all for sale. Roberts and Kavanaugh are gone, no doubt. Gorsuch would be the likely 3rd. I’d held out hope he wasn’t a Swamp creature, but he likely is.
We have a great deal of work ahead of us, if we’re going to reestablish proper government in this country. All branches are stacked against us, unfortunately. All have been purchased as commodities.
railer- after listening to Levin, I have to agree with you. We are indeed in uncharted territory.
Get your facts straight. The pa case was not rejected, just the injunction portion. Please do not be a Debbie downer
So you think a year from now, when the USSC finally gets around to deciding, they’re going to remove Biden from office and reinstall Trump?
So proud of Ken Paxton!!! There’s at least one Texan in state government with brains & cajones!!
https://twitter.com/DrShayPhD/status/1336443344902361088?s=20
Great and hopefully more will ‘push that file’ button before Midnight.
That’s 8 states joining TX.
Mark Levin talking about the rulings right now. Says the PA decision summarily dismissing it says the Court has now created chaos in how states run elections. He believes the Court is frightened the Dems will pack the Court unless they win elections.
I have seen a post that the TX case is now on the Docket at the Supreme Court.
Does that mean that they WILL hear it?
Yes, if it’s on the docket; they’ve accepted it.
Hang in there; it’s not over not by a long shot.
PDJT knows what he is doing.
Been reading down the thread posting this as a courtesy. That the case is on the docket just means that the materials were received by the clerk. It’s like a data log.
Here is Mike Kelly’s lawsuit (PA) for example. Notice as you scroll down that the petition was “referred” then “denied”…so the docket is just a record of what happened. If they decide on the TX case, then I would expect to see something like “referred” and then “accepted” or “granted” or something other than “denied”. Right now, it says nothing.
https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/20a98.html
They’re going to pack the court if they do win.
PA Dem legislatures changed their voting laws at will, without following the rule of law. Now it bites them. They spit on the Constitution.
If SCOTUS does NOT take this case and rule with the law, Dems will pack the court anyway. SCOTUS needs to go down fighting as well.
Mark Levin sounds like railers post, above.
I dismiss such comments, out of hand. It was dismissed without comment, meaning we have no way of knowing WHY.
Don’t know about railer, but Levin is a sensationalist, responds emotionally, and evokes emotions in others.
My life experience has taught me, almost every single time I have allowed my emotions to dictate my actions, the results have been uniformly BAD for me, and on several occasions nearly got me killed.
The more grave the situation, the more important it is to keep your emotions firmly in check.
Therefore, I tend to avoid the kind of people, whether hotheads or hand wringers, that “wear their emotions on their sleeves”, at ALL times, but especially in grave times.
As this battle is the gravest, I want such people as far away from me as possible.
Shoot, pass ammo, or get the Hell out of my foxhole, in other words.
IMHO
I like Mark Levin, but I too think he is off base here; his logic makes zero sense in this instance.
Welp, I agree with you about Levin, Dutch. He’s untrustworthy and if I find myself aligned with him, it’s something I have to look at hard.
But my beef with this issue goes deep and long, and is divergent with Levin’s. He loves McConnell, and I believe McConnell is a pig, in every way, especially over “judges”, which Levin and the RINOs say McConnell is wonderful on. I believe that bogus “judges” fig leaf they use to support this pig doesn’t exist. The guy is a pig, in every way, and 3 of his judges today voted to destroy Trump’s presidency, this after a career of this McConnell pig working to destroy this country. This is his piece de resistance. He’s a pig on judges too, and now we have proof of it. Time to set aside that pig, stop making apologies for him, and set about rebuilding from the damage he’s caused.
I knew that this matter had to go to the USSC, and that it was pressing and had to go positive immediately, or else. So did McConnell these past 25 years or so, when he stacked judges at the US District, Appeals and Supreme Court levels to do his bidding. By my lights, only Barrett can be considered a straight pick, and Alito musta been a mistake, nominated by the Bushies and approved by McConnell… he shoulda been a Romney fer crisakes, but he musta lied on his job app. But I’d say 90% of McConnell’s judges are probably Wall Street/Swamp lackeys. Roberts and Kavanaugh for sure, and now it appears Gorsuch is similar. Today’s decision is the fruits of McConnell’s stacking .
Levin believes the Court will not stand up to Dems because they’re afraid of losing their high and mighty position of one of 9.
They didn’t address the merits of the case.
Strange logic. If that is how the SCOTUS really thinks, then they become nothing but a de facto 9-member rubber stamp for the anti-Constitutionalists anyway. At least until the People rise up and forcefully remove them from power.
Time for State Legislatures across the nation to stand up. They need to join this effort. All in.
Presser today… Boom!
“we won!….we were rewarded with a victory…let’s see who has the courage…”
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“Texans always move them,” said a Great American of another era.
Levin says the results of the TX case will be no different. The justices just had an opportunity to tell state Supreme Courts that no, they could NOT just say anything goes.
Sorry, but Levin was a never-Trumper who supported imbeciles like Mittens before MAGA became trendy. He’s on the side of the fence that would feel ‘comfortable’ if Trump was removed.
Jason- I too was very disappointed with Levin before the election. You are right, for awhile he was a Never Trumper. BUT, unlike many others who changed their ways, Levin apologized and ADMITTED HE WAS WRONG.
Levin has been one of President Trump’s strongest advocates and supporters. His Landmark Legal Foundation has filed several Amicus briefs in the Pennsylvania and other states’ litigation. He has had wonderful interviews with our President Trump on his cable show. In the last few years, I have never heard Levin say anything that did not strongly support our President.
Tonight, after he spoke on what he thought of the Supremes PA decision, he was vigorously discussing how incredible Operation Warp Speed for the vaccine is, that it is all because of President Trump, etc.
Mark Levin is a true patriot who loves our country and our President.
So….you’re saying that SCOTUS will rule against Texas and the other 8 states??
I would love to see an audit of WA state votes
Of course with the corrupt officials here it would never happen.
Dino Rossi.
Need I say more?
I have my doubts about the Supreme Court. They tend to shy away from the constitutional questions they should be answering, such as affirmative action, while taking up cases that have no place in their court, such as gay marriage.
True indeed. But regardless of what the Republican establishment may be trying to convince us of, everything is NOT going back to normal after this if they just win the Senate. Elections in this country have been stained beyond MSM rehabilitation.
I wonder how the SCOTUS can side step this case?
Would they?
ken Starr suggets there is mqy not be any way around it.
ken Starr suggets there is may not be any way around it.
I’ve read several statements here that because the case is in original jurisdiction, the SCOTUS has no choice but to hear it.
Further, I read that the person making that statement was Clarence Thomas.
Not worried.
New Texas case information direct from SCOTUS Docket: “Response to the motion for leave to file a bill of complaint and to the motion for a preliminary injunction and temporary restraining order or, alternatively, for stay and administrative stay requested, due Thursday, December 10, by 3 pm.”
Someone pointed out injunctive relief may have been denied in the Kelly case because Wolfe already certified their results. Hence, can’t have an injunction.
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This may be the one. But I just can’t trust the judges. Hope they take this case and make the legislatures elect the electors.
and you’re of the mind that THIS Texas case will be somehow adjudicated intellectually … logically … rationally … CONSTITUTIONALLY…. where as the black&white unconstitutional election law manipulation by elected & bureaucrats in the Pennsylvania submission was disposed of in 40minutes of intense deliberations ??!?
I just heard that the four defendant states have retained that most prestigious law firm Dewey, Cheetum and Howe in their continued fight to subvert the constitution and transform America.
Louisiana just joined lawsuit. Col. west says he expects 10 to eventually joining. He mentioned South Carolina and Missouri!
Please G-d, let my state join!